Hi. Hi. Welcome back to the house. Since you haven't been here forever. I know. How's it going? Good. How are you? I am good. I'm great. You know, just hanging out. I haven't done much. I feel I mean, maybe I have. I don't know. But you've been gone for like a whole month. It was a wild ride. I was very, very ready to get home. I'm pretty sure my mom was ready for us to leave too. Yeah, probably. Well, no. You know, my parents, I'm sure that sometimes they want me to
leave. And then like the next day after I'm gone, they're like, are you going to come back? When are you coming back? And I'm like, okay, you had like one break from me and now you want me to come back where you're going to hate me in two days. So yeah, no, I mean, it was a really great trip overall. Like we didn't have any knockdown drag outs. Like it was so much fun. It was a little bit harder this time because we went for the same amount of time that we went last year.
And except for the boys came with Jerry and I in the beginning because we had an engagement party to go to all of us. And so it was just a little harder to get back to reality. Because we were all off for like five days and then the boys left and then it was like, oh, okay. I guess, you know, well, Jerry and I will sit at the kitchen table and, you know, work from home now. So it was definitely interesting always. And it was last year too, working at the kitchen table
together. So not, don't recommend, don't recommend working at the kitchen table. No, or just like together with somebody. No, I mean, she and I, like we would go somewhere else if we needed to or whatever. Like in the beginning when we got there, it was hot as fire outside. My mom was like, pack your warm clothes. So I had like one like short sleeve shirt for wearing. And then I mainly had long sleeves and sweaters and I didn't bring any sandals. Jerry brought her Birkenstocks
and so she was like good to go. And I mean, it wasn't too hot, but I mean, it was warm enough to not need long sleeves or sweaters and shit like that. And I was fairly miserable in the beginning because it was so hot and we don't have central air. Oh, they don't have central. Oh my God. No, they don't know how to live. They have baseboard heat from like the furnace. So there's like old, like, you know, I don't even know if they're steel or what type of metal they are,
but you know, built in to the wall. So it's not like a standalone furnace. It's all along, like right above the baseboards, runs along there and that's what heats the house. But there's no duct work for central, forced air or heat. So do they have like any type of air conditioning? No. They don't have any like window units? They have one window unit in the living room. We did turn it on one time because Jerry and I were just so hot, but my mom had already taken hers out of
her bedroom. Do they have fans or something? I mean, I had a tower, we had a tower fan in there and Brandon and I were super hot like the first couple nights. And then I rigged up this tower fan, like on top of a nightstand essentially. So it would, cause I mean, a tower fan is not going to do shit when your bed is like three feet off the ground. Like, what is that going to do? It's just going to blow onto the ground, you know, or into the wall. And so then I had Mitch go down to
the basement and get my old like window fan, you know, that can stick in a window. And I mean, it did get cool enough at night to blow in some cold air, but it sure as shit wasn't air conditioning. So how do you keep your house from like getting mildew and mold and stuff in it if you don't have like central air? They have a dehumidifier in the basement. That's it. I mean, I guess it just doesn't get humid up there? No, not the same as here. Definitely not. Oh, okay. I always thought
that you had to like have that or something to circulate the air so that you don't. Well, I mean, they've got screen doors and stuff. And so, I mean, we do like a porch screen door and a screen door on the front door too. So we leave both those open a lot just to get some airflow. Oh, wow. Interesting. I don't know. I don't know if I've ever been in a house like that before. Maybe I have. Let me just tell you, I will never be going there in the middle of the summer. I wouldn't survive.
Yeah, that's well, how hot does it get? I mean, when we were there, it was in the 80s, like low 80s. Yeah, that's really hot. And that was in the end of September, beginning of October. Do they have, I mean, when you go to like work and stuff, do you have air conditioning? Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, I guess maybe that like, I would not want to work from home if I had to. Like my grandmother had central air at her house, but the house my mom bought just didn't.
Yeah. Growing up in the summer, I slept in the basement a lot because it was just much cooler down there. Interesting. Yeah. Well, that's cool. So what else did y'all do? After we got up there, we did an Airbnb not far, like 45 minutes from the house. And it's, I think it's on the racket river. And so, you know, it was really nice, like almost like a cabin type situation on the water.
And we stayed there for two nights and had a lot of fun. It was hysterical. We got up there and I'm trying to think of, I think the first night that we were there, we cooked steaks and stuff. That or else, I don't know what we did. Maybe we didn't. I need some good stories. So tell me about the fingers cup, fingers game or whatever. Well, I'll get there. I'll get there. Jerry and I did jump in the lake and nobody knew we were going to do it. And I mean, the water was cold. It was real
cold. But we had gone to this place called racket river brewing, which is like probably 40, 45 minutes from where we were staying in Tupper Lake, New York. And they've got like three different food trucks there and all kinds of beer and cider, but they have mixed drinks and stuff too. But they've got a great indoor outdoor space. And so we all hung out up there for like a good while on Friday during the day. But when we came back, we were all kind of just doing our own thing,
winding down from that. And Jerry had brought a pizza, part of her pizza home from one of the food trucks up there. And so she was sitting out by the dock. And so I went and sat with her and I was like, do you want to jump in? And she was like, yeah. And I was like, well, we need to wait for mom to get out here. So then we are like, Dawn, we take some pictures of me and Jer. And so we went to the end of the dock and she was taking some pictures. And finally we turned around and she
was like, well, why do you want to behind the picture? And Jer was like, we're going to jump up in the air and we want you to get that picture or whatever. So then she started recording and like, cause she doesn't know how to do like a boomerang or anything like that. So she just started recording and Jerry and I, and I told Jerry, I said, if you make me jump in this water by myself, I'm going to kill you. And she was like, that's some shit you would do not me.
But we both went in and we got a really cool picture of us, like from a still from my mom's video or whatever, but you can hear my mom. She goes, Oh, you're jumping in. I didn't know you were jumping. And then I looked like a beach whale trying to get up out of there. Cause we had real clothes on, I had jeans on and the ladder like wasn't super long. So I'm trying to like hike a fucking leg up there to like, to get it in your legs. Like, well, first of all, your clothes are
heavy, but then you've got jeans. So it's like stiff legs, like, Oh, heavy legs. Yeah. But that was funny. And, um, the fingers game. So that happened like a while after, but we play this game called left, right center. And all it is, is three dice and the dice have either dots on them, L's, R's or C's. And so you just start with three quarters. Where do you get the dice for this? Does it come, do you buy this? Yeah. And it's called what? Left, right center.
Okay. And it's really fun. And so then you put like a bowl in the middle of the table. Cause C is center and we call it church or whatever. So like, if you roll a C, you, however many C's you roll, you put into, you know, the center bowl or whatever. Right. And then if you roll an L or an R, you know, you send your quarter right left, but if you roll dots, you get to keep your coins.
And so let's just say in your first roll, you know, you roll an R, you give that away. The next time you're only going to roll two dice, you roll the die equivalent to the number of quarters that you have. And just because you lose your quarters doesn't mean that your time is up because other people can still left or right hand quarters to you. So you could be out for several rounds and
then all of a sudden have three quarters again. You know what I mean? So the very last person to have quarters left that haven't gone to the center, you know, you can't get a quarter. So the person who has left that haven't gone to the center wins. So we were playing with some of our neighbors and her kids. And so you don't want your quarters to go to the center. No, you want to keep your quarters because then you win everything in the center. Oh, gotcha. So we're
playing with some of our neighbors or whatever. And Jerry taught, learned this game at Auburn called fingers. And it, do you know what it is? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's why I was like, yes. And so she has taught, I mean, everybody knows it now because she's taught all of them, you know, her time spending time with them or whatever. And so we played that and it was who, if you win at left heart center, you don't have to participate in fingers.
Oh, you don't have to, but would you want to, she doesn't. Oh, she doesn't. I mean, we were drinking everything from maple bourbon to cider to in the fingers, cup. Yeah. To chardonnay to wait. So did y'all mix drinks and put them in the cup in the middle or we had one cup in the middle and you pour a little bit. No, you pour a little bit of your drink in there. So it was a mixed drink mix. Oh, we didn't do, we didn't do it like that. It was more like a shot or like
we poured like, put like a whole drink, like not something nasty. Oh no. No, the very first time that it was like a suicide alcoholic beverage. Yes. Yes. That's disgusting. Yeah. I don't want to play that. Had me play that at Auburn. There were like 12 of us. It was terrible. And I lost and I thought I was going puke. How many times did you lose though? At that time, once I figured it out, I was pretty much okay. I only lost once with her then when I was, when we were
up there, it is so hard to get her and my mom so hard. Really? Mitch is one of those dingle dongs that'll, you know, be in there and there'll be, you know, two or three people left or whatever and he'll go one, two, three, none and leave his finger. So it's, it's just funny to play. Yeah. That's fun. Well, I'm glad you got, you guys have fun. What else do you, any, did you go leaf peeping? I mean, when we went up to racket river, like the drive up there is nice and the, I would say the
place that we stayed at in Higley was really nice too. And I mean, you could see open water and they did have a rowboat and Thomas and Jerry went out, but the leaves looked really nice from there. I got some really good sunset pictures there. Did Brandon enjoy it? He, I think he had fun. Yeah. I mean, yeah. He, yes, he had fun. How long was he there? We flew up on a Wednesday and he and Thomas drove down to Syracuse to fly out the following Tuesday. So almost a whole week.
Yeah. But that Saturday we had an engagement party to go to for my friend David Parker and. How did that go? It was so good. Any like funny stories from any of this stuff? Um, well, yeah, Jess, his fiance, so she and I had never met face to face. So that was like our first time meeting. I mean, we, you know, text almost daily. Um, but we haven't, you know, we hadn't met before. And so he told us to be there two hours before everybody else. Well, come to find
out the reason why we needed to be there no longer existed, but nobody told me that. So I didn't have to be there at five o'clock could have been there at seven. So when we show up at five, she's still there, not dressed, like still finishing decorating and whatever it has to go home and get dressed and all that. So she comes later, which I mean, it was fun. Brandon and I caught up, you know, with his parents and you know, met her family and whatever, but, um, she doesn't drink very often,
like rarely, like twice a year, like new years and like maybe some other celebration. This girl was doing shot, shot, shot, shot shots of her favorite thing ever, which is Jaeger. Disgusting. And it was so funny cause I was sitting at a table. And if you don't drink a lot taking shots, oh, it's such a random thing to like really love and like choose to drink, you know, when you don't
drink very often, but it was funny. So my mom and them get there cause they came, you know, at the seven o'clock time, she, my mom was like, I didn't get to come in here without taking a Jaeger shot with Jess. And I'm like, Oh, my, Don's going to feel good later. Oh my God. Yeah. No, I would not. I'd be like, no, no, we can't do that. But they had like this, um, like Canadian like dance and song thing that they did or whatever. And I don't, I mean, it wasn't the Canadian national anthem or
anything like that. I don't really know what it was, but it was like fun to see, you know, that cause I have no idea about Canadian traditions and things like that. So that's cool. Yeah, it was neat. That's my favorite kind of thing. Like I've always wanted to have like, like get married to an Indian man so that I can have an Indian wedding. Cause I can't just like have an Indian wedding when I'm not Indian.
Yeah, it was cute. And her family was so stinking nice and it was good to, you know, catch up with some other folks that were there. So it was a good time. And then I mean, we, life kind of went back to normal after that really. The boys went home and we worked and it was real bad weather, like right after the guys left for days, like just raining. It did cool off, which was nice, but we couldn't really go
outside and do anything. So that following weekend, Auburn was off. We had a bye week. And so I didn't really care about watching football. I want to go do something. Well, we're all like amped up. We're trying to figure out what we're going to do. There was some kind of like fall festival in like another town that was probably about 45 minutes to an hour away or whatever. And they were going to have food trucks and bands and all these vendors, but it was raining. And I
was like, I don't have a raincoat. I don't want to go stand out in the rain. We ended up watching football all day long. Well, that's always fun. Yeah. I mean, we had a great time. At least y'all got some rain. I guess we did. We kind of got some rain for a hot minute here. It was raining the day that I came back that I flew back. It was rainy. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it was fun. We had a great time. Brandon's like, I saw one of my neighbors, Laura, and she was like, Brandon says y'all are
moving up there. And I was like, don't listen to him. He would be bored in four months. He would be born. Bored. Oh, bored. Yeah. I mean, why would he be bored? It gets old quick a little bit, especially if it's not something that you're used to. Like, I mean, we're used to be bopping around to all of our different friends houses or whatever. And being able to go to a million different restaurants or bars or breweries or whatever. And we just don't have that. Oh, well, but I mean, I feel like he
would probably go with you anywhere as long as you're there. Oh, I think so too. But I'm not going up there. I just I miss. So you would be bored. Yeah, I would be bored for sure. I mean, well, because like David and I are close, like very close, but I know that we wouldn't. I don't know that we would hang out all the time. Maybe we would because of Jess, but like. I don't I don't
know. I just I don't think that's for me. Like I can work from anywhere. I think I would be more worried about Brandon being unhappy, you know, trying to find a job in a much smaller market up there and, you know, not being happy with it and just going to go. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, Birmingham is better anyways. I've never been there, but I'm just biased. It's a beautiful. So highly recommend to anybody listening upstate New York. And I don't mean like central New York.
I mean, like the North Country, New York, Adirondack Mountains, Canton, New York, Tupper Lake, New York, Potsdam, New York. Go look at it. It's a lot of cows, a lot of Amish. They have the best cheese curds in the whole entire world. But it's a great place for like a fall trip for sure. Cool. Yeah. Maybe I'll need to go next year. Yeah. I got to go back for Dave's wedding. So when is that? I don't know that they have a date specifically yet, but I think they're
shooting for September. All right. So if without, I mean, if you don't have anything else on that topic, I think the only other story that I want to tell, I do just, this is the only other story. I put it on my Snapchat story the other day, but my 33 year old sister did not know that you have to add water to condensed soup. Yeah. And that was the craziest thing. So has she been, that's what I was wondering. Has she been eating that for her whole life? Seawater chicken noodle
soup. Yes. Interesting. So was it just like the regular chicken noodle soup that you put, hers, it looked, it didn't look like chicken noodle soup. It looked like the big, like the big noodles or something. Well, she had crackers in there. Oh, that was crackers. Oh. But Campbell's chicken noodle soup, condensed chicken noodle soup with no water. I mean, it kind of sounds better. Sometimes I feel like, you know, the bowls that I have, I have to, when I make Campbell's chicken
noodle soup, you have to like put it in like a big pot or like a deep bowl. And then I'm like, I've got too much. Like I want you to make it with like one serving. The best part of it was, well, and that was the best part. She was like, I always wondered why it only made one serving. Yeah. That's so funny. But I just, I mean, that was one of the funniest things that happened the whole time that we're there. And it was just her and I home by ourselves working. Yeah. Well,
you know, next time, did she, did she end up like adding water? She added a little bit of water. Okay. Well, I mean, I guess she could have like heated up some water or something and then put it in there. So it's not like making it cold. The best part about it though, is that I got a couple of responses on Snapchat to be like, yeah, my so-and-so who is this age also did not know this. It says it on the can. So the best part was that I didn't, I didn't pay attention to what she was
doing. And so I went back into the garbage to find the can to make sure that it was condensed soup. So I wasn't misleading her because you know, the progresso soup, you don't have to do that. Like you just pour it out of the can and eat it. And so I went and digging through the trash to find the can and being like, Jerry, it's literally right here. I even like after all of these years of preparing my own Campbell soup or any type of soup or anything, I still like macaroni and cheese. I
know exactly how to make macaroni and cheese. I know exactly how much to put in there. I still read the box. A hundred percent. I don't know why. And because what if they changed it? Yeah. But like there, you know, there's some people that just, they're not direction readers and they just are like, Oh, let me just do this. And like, whatever. What means she just went with it because that's how she's been doing it her whole life. And I don't even know what made me ask her about it either,
but I was just like, what the fuck is going on in that bowl right there? Yeah. That's so funny. Wow. All right. So I have an FMK for us. Okay. This is going to be for Halloween costumes. All right. Since Halloween is coming up, happy Halloween. So these are just generic Halloween costumes. Pat, a witch or a ghost. I am going to kill the ghost because it's just kind of boring. Okay. Like I don't want to wear a sheet over my head with some eyeballs cut out. Like I don't want to do that.
Oh my God. Can I just stop you really quick? Because this morning, was it this morning that I forgot about this. I saw this thing and it was like a sweatshirt that said ghost Malone. And it was like a sheet with like tattoo things over the eyes. And it was hilarious. And I was like, can Brandon please be this for her? Like, I was like, somebody needs to be this. What about Brandon for Halloween ghost Malone? It would be so easy. It's hilarious. But yeah, anyways, that's what
reminded me of that. Sorry. No. So I want to kill the ghost because I think it's just a little bit boring. I'm probably going to fuck the witch because even though I love Hocus Pocus and Jerry and I watched it for probably the millionth time while we were home, most witches for Halloween, the costumes are pretty generic. And I don't know. I love all of these are very generic. I know. I know. But like, I still think I'm going to fuck a witch. I'm going to marry a cat. And I'm not even
like really a cat person. Like I like your cat and Melanie's cat and like Rose's cats, but like in general, I'm not a cat person, but a cat, you can make a cat look sexy. And I like that. You can make a witch look sexy and a ghost. I don't know. I like cat ears. Sexy ghost. I want to know what your sexy ghost looks like. Ghost Malone and. Ghost Malone is not sexy. A sweatshirt is not sexy. Tell me how. Well, you don't wear it. Why would you wear a sweatshirt?
You're not wearing a sweatshirt. You wear like a, a sheet with tattoos on it. Well, that would be for Ghost Malone. For Ghost Malone. Yes. But like you can make it. Yes. I bet you, you can make it look sexy. All right. Well, why don't you do that? I'm already have my Halloween costume. Are you still recycling? Recycling. Yeah. Wearing an old one? No, I'm going to be the Princess Diana Beanie baby. Oh, okay. Yes. I can recall. We talked about this, but I'm pretty sure she was texting her
buddies in Canada during that time. So, um, so yeah, I'm going to be the Princess Diana Beanie baby. So, um, I have that and I've already like made it and everything. Nice. Yeah. It's ready to go. Cool. Well, sort of ready to go, but you know, um, so where are you going to be? Still Barbie? I don't know if I'm doing anything. Oh my God. But I do. I mean, I have my dress to be weird, Barbie. I just haven't decided. I just feel like I've been going 9,000 miles an hour and I'm just
ready to not have a task to do on a weekend. Well, it's not a task. It's a fun thing to go hang out and then leave and eat candy and eat food. So I just, I gotta amp myself up for it. Okay. Well, it'll be fun. And that's sad if you don't go, but you know, nothing I can do about it. Um, so if you do go though, what are you going to be? I thought you were like, okay, do you have the, did those, your S come? Yeah, I just said that. Oh, okay. Sorry. I missed that. And you want to
know what's hilarious. I actually got a second day I'm dressed in the mail that I'm trying to sell on marketplace. So if anybody is looking for a long sleeve knee length with a little bit of a slit, pink sequin dress from Torrid, please go look for it on marketplace cause I'm ready to offload it. That's funny. Well, so I would marry the witch, fuck the cat, actually, yeah, fuck the cat and
kill the ghost because the, like I have a witch's hat and it's like the best witch's hat ever. It's like, see, I have good cat ears and so, but a cat, you could be a witch and a cat in the same day. Like all you have to do is just wear a black outfit and like a witch, you can be like in a dress, a black dress, or you could be in black pants and a shirt. I mean, like whatever things I got for Halloween that like work wise anyways, that I wore to work when I was working in Cleveland was this
headband that had a black glitter bat wings on it and it was so cute. I was a bat for Halloween, like I don't know how many years ago it was, but I went to like Stephanie, I don't know where all I went, but I have a picture of it and I made my own bat wings and they like connected to my hands. So when I moved my hands out, they like opened up and like, it was really hard to make and I wish I still had it, but I think it like got lost or something or like messed up, but yeah, it was so
cute. Yeah, the bat. You're good at homemade costumes. I'm not. Yeah, well I'm not, I don't, I wouldn't call myself good at it. I just, I like to think, I don't know, I like to do the homemade stuff. I don't like to like buy the outfits. No, I don't either. I like to put random stuff together. Like yeah, yeah, I agree. I haven't bought a like full-fledged like all the pieces costume in like probably 10 years. I don't think I've ever, I mean, I'm, oh, I bought that corn outfit
last year, but that was just like one thing. Yeah. But I haven't, I don't know if I've ever bought like you know, those sexy outfits. I've never wanted to be like a sexy anything for Halloween. Oh, I was a sheriff and I hated it because I wore heels with it and I was miserable. I went to the B&A warehouse party and I was good to go after like 30 minutes. I mean, I didn't, I stayed much longer than that, but I'm pretty sure I didn't
have shoes on when I left there. Ew. Yeah, that's not fun. Okay. So breaking news. Yeah. You're on VanderSloot. Confess to killing Natalie Holloway. If you guys don't know what this is, you are probably born before 2005. Yeah. Or less or earlier than that. Or I mean later than that. Yeah. Because anyways, Natalie Holloway is from Birmingham, from Mountain Brook, Alabama, which is right around the
corner from us. Yep. And she was kidnapped essentially, or she went missing, is what I would say. On their senior trip. To Aruba. Yes, in 2005. And we were both juniors in high school. Yep. I remember going, so when I was in school like at UAB, I remember going to volunteer at some certain place, like the Ronald McDonald house, I think maybe. I don't know where exactly I was, where we went volunteering and they had
pictures of her on the wall because she used to volunteer there. It was just terrible. Like, oh, so sad. Even years later, I came down here the summer after my freshman year of college and worked at my neighbor's OBGYN office at Brookwood. So, you know, even cutting through, you know, Mountain Brook, sometimes to go home or whatever, two years later, there were still yellow ribbons on people's mail
boxes in support of her. Yeah. Because for so long, there were no questions answered. Yeah. I mean, it's a terrible thing and it's like 18 years later and they finally have gotten a confession. But, okay, so apparently this confession was like, so he was on trial, I guess, or he was here in Birmingham for extortion and wire fraud. Yep. And the plea deal, with the plea deal, he agreed to confess to Natalie's, you know, her murder. Right. And so... Well, he's already in prison, right?
So, I think he's in, yeah, I believe he's been in prison and I don't know exactly where he is, but he killed that other girl in 2008. I want to say it's like in Peru or something like that. 2010. 2010. Yeah. So, yeah, Peru because it's like Peruvian. They've been kind of like sharing him. Yeah. Like back and forth with all this stuff. I mean, he's been in what, Jefferson County jail since he's been here waiting for this trial to happen. I have no idea. Yeah. He's been in,
yeah, local county jail. In the jail? Mm-hmm. Oh, wow. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. I don't know much, but my thing, like I sent Sarah this thing earlier and this, you know, not trying to joke about this because it's not funny, but he wasn't even cute. Like, that sucks so bad. And apparently he like made passes at her and she was like, no, I'm not going to have this. And, you know, he was like, well, screw you and just like murdered her. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he got his feelings
hurt because I mean, he's got, comes from a rich family. I'm sure he got what he wanted most of his life and I'm, I bet he- And then he kicked her and killed her and then put a, like smashed her face in with a cinder block. Like what? I mean- That is wild. And then I saw something where he was like, I'm not the same person that I was. How can you say that five years after- And he's given his life to Jesus Christ? Right. How can you say that when five years after the first time,
you did it again? Right. You're a shit human. Right. Like you suck. And then you still are trying to extort money too. And it was only like, I say only, I mean, it was $250,000, I think. That was a lot. That's a lot. I know. But like, it's not, it wasn't like millions, but also you come from a rich family. So what are you, what are you doing? Well, like, yeah, I don't know. These people- Everything is never enough for some people. Well that, and I guess sometimes people don't
live, they don't, I don't know. I'm making this up and I may or may not be right about this, but a lot of, I believe potentially that a lot of times people with lots of means, like a lot of money, they have means to get a lawyer to get all these things. And they just grow up thinking, oh, I'll get out of this. Like, oh, if I get a DUI, it's kind of like going back to like the Up and Vanished podcast, which I love. They, you know, the guy that essentially like got convicted of murdering her
or whatnot, he, well, there are two guys, one of them, he came from a very wealthy family. The other one was not so well off, but the other guy, he just was like, would get like a DUI and just like, you know, not like- No consequences. No consequences. Yeah. Let me just let my dad take care of this. And I just feel like that happens and it's not really cool. Like my mom and dad, we were not very well off like that. But even if they were, I don't, my mom would have been like,
she's always told me when I was younger, she was like, if you get a DUI, do not call me. She's like, don't, she was like, don't get it. I will not come get you. I mean, it's the same sort of thing with a Alec Murdoch case and his son, Paul. It's the same thing. Like you can, if you've watched the documentary, you can see after the accident happens and there's like dash cams and body cams from the police that showed up after the boating accident, Paul was acting nonchalant about it.
Like just like nothing happened. Like they didn't get, you know, tossed out of a boat and were missing one of the people that they, you know, was in the boat with them. Like it was just so, and one of the very first things he said is, can I call my dad? Yeah. And a lot of times people, they, they have this like, oh, well, if anything goes wrong, my dad's going to fix it or my mom and dad are going to fix it or whoever's going to fix it. And it takes something like that, somebody
dying. Well, but sometimes that doesn't even fix it. Yeah. Well that, and it's like, I grew up thinking if anything bad happened, nobody's fixing it. Right. And I'm going to be screwed. I'm not going to jail. Like I can't, I don't have this. And my, like right now, if I were to have to, like if something were to happen, if I got a DUI or something like that, I don't have the, like the money to pay for a lawyer like that, you know? Right. Like that. I mean, it's crazy ridiculous
to pay to get out of that. So it's like, I mean, I would essentially probably eventually be able to pay for the stuff, but like it's expensive. Right. You don't have $25,000 to drop on a retainer for an excellent lawyer. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So that, I mean, when people, the more money you have, the more mo money, mo problems. I was literally going to say that. I'm so glad you did. I couldn't get out of my mouth fast enough. But, and you know, it's not just like mo money, mo problem,
but I don't know. I, it makes me sick thinking about it. Cause if you think back that when we were juniors, that was when we were juniors in high school, when she went missing and that like we, when I went on, went to Cancun for my senior trip and I just remember everybody was like, oh my God, what's, you know, and that I think, and I don't know for sure, but like, I think that is probably the time of my life when I realized, oh, bad things happen to pretty young girls. And like
I could get taken or I could get murdered or I could get whatever. So don't get in the car with a stranger, that kind of thing. And you know, honestly, it's hearing that story has helped a lot of people try to be more safe and especially go into different countries and things like that. And I hate it sad that we have to use that as an example, but like, you know, I'm sure Natalie's mom and dad would be like really happy to hear that, you know, that has helped people stay safe
and not for it to not happen. And to be more vigilant of their surroundings and aware and maybe drink less on a trip like that. So they don't get put in a situation. Watch your drink so you don't get roofied. Be aware of, you know, your drinks and all that kind of stuff. And I mean, it's super scary. I think that in high school, a lot of the times we think that we're
invincible and oh yeah, for sure. And it's scary. I mean, I would say the realization that you kind of had with that was when I was a sophomore, this kid who had graduated the previous year passed away in a car accident. And that was one of the first times that like a peer of mine had died. And it was, I mean, gut wrenching and makes you understand that it can happen to anybody. Anybody. Yeah. Yeah. Could happen, you know, tomorrow to anybody. I mean, it could happen
right now. Right. Oh man. Also Israel is so sad. I know. I just want to, we don't have to get into it, but we can talk about how I've made a bug out bag. Did you see that big bag? Have I not told you about this? Uh-uh. What? You're going to think I'm crazy and everybody is. I don't know. Okay. So one night, like last week. I don't even know what you're saying. Bug out? A bug out bag or a go bag or like a, I'll get to. Is that what is up at the landing on the stairs with the cat carrier?
So you are ready. The cat carrier and a helmet. I'm ready to grab it and it's in the stairway landing. So if somebody comes to the front door, somebody comes to the back door, I've got a way to get it real quick. Run out. Get all your animals, all your shit and you go. Yeah. So, one day last week. You're making me nervous. After all the Israel stuff happened and Hamas and all this. So my parents call and I had been, I always think about this all the time
anyways. And I usually have a bag, like I have a tornado prep bag that is stays in a certain area and it has a, has, I have two helmets, one just in case my neighbor comes over or whatever helmet for the tornado because we get tornadoes in Alabama. It has like flashlights, batteries, water bottles, just in case I get trapped inside there. It has, I don't know, just random stuff
like that. And it's just a small little backpack for that. It has an air horn. So I took all of that stuff and I was like going to use that same bag, but then I was trying to put all the stuff, other stuff that I needed in there. And so I was like, this isn't going to fit. So I put in, I wish I had a list of all the stuff in there. So there is a pair of tennis shoes with some socks. There's a little bag with a change of clothes. Like they're like some old, cause I was like,
I don't know. I'm not going to put like, this is probably, probably not going to happen. Yeah. It's like a pair of like Lululemon leggings that have like a hole in the crotch. Like it's like a hole in the leg and the side, and then like a t-shirt and some, a sports bra and some panties just in case I need to change clothes. There's water bottles. There's a, like a bottle, like a water bottle that is empty that you can like take the lid off and drink water out of.
There is a, there is a fire starter. Like I have a fire starter. I mean, not that I would ever need that, but there's like a couple of cans of, what did I put in there? No, there's a can. No, I put in refried beans because they have like protein and all that stuff in there. So refried. And then there's dog cans of dog food. There's some like dry dog food, some cat food, mostly it's dog stuff. I also have their, the dog's life jackets in there. All three of them in there, just in case we got a,
like, I don't know. I'm not going to say, hop in the creek. Yes. So that, I have a bunch of ammo. So like, I have a bunch of like, there's a, there's a, that's heavy. There's multiple. How heavy is that thing? It's a very heavy. You should pick it up when you go out. You need to get like a backpack pack. So I can't because the backpack has, I have to wear, I was going to wear a backpack, but Birdie goes in
a backpack on my back and I'm not leaving his ass. I'm sorry. He's getting in that thing and we going. You need to, I need to get him a life jacket. You need to teach him how to walk on a leash. I tried when I got him as a kitty kitty and he hated it. He was like, no. He was like, no. So he, yeah, that's, I tried really hard. Didn't work out for me, but I might try again. I would. Now that he's old, he hated me. So what else is in there? I'm just like, I don't know. I've just got,
oh, batteries, extra batteries. I mean, like just the essentials. It seems like there's a lot, but it's mostly like ammunition, just in case I got a pow pow. Some people I'm sorry. Like, look, I believe in, I believe in gun control. 100%. I think that there are certain things that need to possibly change, like, because it is way too easy to go buy a gun. I agree. Um, and I'm not going to
get into all that, but I do believe that we have, we should have the right to bear arms. So I apologize for any, we can, if anybody disagrees with that, we can have a conversation and you can maybe change my mind, but maybe I'll enlighten you on why I think that I also don't think that you should be able to have a gun if you don't know how to use it. I think that everybody should know how to use
a gun had at least unload one just in case somebody else has it. So anyway, off that soap box. Um, so I have my bug out bag and my parents and I, we tried to make us like a, um, a plan of where we're going to meet because I've thought about this before and I'm like, if something were to happen, like I'm here by myself and like Daniel and Eric have families and my mom and dad, I know that they would help me, but like there may not be as well equipped to like help me, but I'm like,
would somebody come get me? Like, what would I be? I would be here. Like, like what if I was like, I don't know, what would you do? And my parents were like, we would be, yes, of course we would come get you. My mom was like freaking out. And so we've had this whole plan. We were like setting up meeting spots and I'm like, okay, but we have to decide where to meet in case something happens here. Like if something happens in Birmingham, are we going to meet outside of Birmingham?
If something happens in Huntsville, well, cause you would, it would be hard for you to, if like, let's just be hypothetical and say something happened downtown, it'd be hard for you to get past downtown to get to them. Right. And same for them to you. Yeah. There's just a lot of like scenarios that you can't just be like, oh, here's our meeting spot in this spot because like, what if this doesn't happen? And you know, if, if you wait so many days and you don't hear from me,
maybe that, you know, that's when it's time to like, go to our meeting spot. This is wild that you've had this conversation. I know. Like I told Alison about it and she was, and she was kind of like listening to me and I was like, I know I sound like a crazy person, but I mean, it's, I sound like a crazy person, but in my opinion, it is better to be so because Robin, I sent my
sister-in-law and my brother, I was like, are y'all ready with y'all's bug out bags? Like I do. And I sent him a picture, I think of my bag and I was just kind of like, ha ha, I made this bag just in case. And she was like, don't be scared. They're just trying to like incite fear in people and like, but my thing is maybe they are just trying to make everybody scared, but I would be rather be a little bit scared now than not prepared if something were to happen. You're scaring me now.
Am I scaring you? Oh my God, I'm not trying to scare anybody. I just think that it's a little bit better to be prepared, like be prepared, like because it could, something bad could happen. I think like those first few days after like, and last Friday when they were saying that there was going to be a day of jihad. Oh, I know. I was like, Jerry and I were nervous because we were flying on Saturday. Yeah. I had my gun strapped to me all day. I was like, I'm scared that it's something
bad is going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. It makes me sick that we even have to think about it. Yeah. You know, it is, it is sad. It's very sad, but anyways, that has happened. I'm trying to think of what else we, I went to a haunted house last weekend. How was that? It was expensive. It was called warehouse 31. They had scary. Okay. So we waited like an hour. You have to wait like an hour to get in. They have like drinks and stuff. I didn't get any drinks or anything. Um, but then
they had scary. Okay. While you wait. And so you could, people could like, I didn't, but like other people did. There were some people that were there that were actually really good. Like, yeah. Um, so, but you sit in this big room, I'm surprised I don't have COVID yet because you sit in this huge room with like all these people. I mean, there's doors are open and there's like air coming in and out, but like, it's a lot of people sitting next to each other. You could, there were like
little kids there at like midnight. We didn't go in until like one, maybe when they used to have the sloths one, we paid and waited. And I mean, for hours and hours and hours, like probably three hours. Cause they had like beer vendors and stuff like that. And we tried to wait it out. And finally we were like, screw this. We're not waiting any longer. So I looked it up after we left, cause there were so many people there and it costs $35 or 30, 30 something dollars, like about $35
to go through this thing. I was like, these people are making bank because they really essentially only have to buy all this stuff like once or twice, like maybe like re get a couple of extra things here and there every year. But like most of the stuff, they'll just like keep it and reuse it. And they are making bank. And if you look it up, like, and they only have to work like two months out of the year, like, holy moly. At my old job, there were a handful of people
that used to participate and they were characters at Atrox. And I mean, they would just do it after work and they loved it. And see, that's a weird, I don't know if I could like the people that we went really late and we were like one of the last groups to go. And I was like, I think these people are getting tired. Cause like some of them would just be like, Oh, they wouldn't say anything. They was following us. And I was like, I think they're tired. I mean, you're doing the same repetitive
stuff for the most part for hours. Yeah. Well, the first one you say, you go through two different sections and the first thing you go through is like a 3d thing and they give you like 3d glasses. I would hate that. And I took the glasses off because I was like, I'm gonna, because you walk through this thing and you go over this like rickety bridge that's like steel or metal or something and you're going through it and there's this big thing around you that's circling and it's
got like splatters of paint and like random stuff. And it's like, you got this three and I'm like going to vomit. I haven't even been drinking or eating. I was like, I had stopped drinking and I was like, Oh, I'm getting sick. This is so dizzy. And I like took the glasses off. But anyway, so we walked in that thing. And so Santana was in front of me, Santana goes in and I wasn't even in there yet. Like at first I was like, Oh, I got to hold onto somebody. Cause I was the only one that
like didn't have like a husband or a boyfriend like to hold onto. I mean, there was DJ's dad was there. So I could have like done that. That would have been weird. So, um, but I was like holding on, gonna hold onto Santana. What Santana walked ahead of me cause she was trying to get with Aaron and this person jumps like the scary person jumps out and scares her and she falls down and like knocks into the wall. It was hilarious. It was like the first room that we walked into too. It was so
funny. And I was like, Oh my God, we all died laughing. And then, so we go through that one and then it gets to the point. So it was like Santana and I was like holding onto her like boobs because I was holding under her armpits and I was like holding her boobs from the, from the back, like the side boob. It was like this and I, cause she's so little, like my hands were big and I like, I was like holding underneath her arm. I know, but she had a sweater on. I didn't want to like
stretch it out. And I was like, Oh, I was trying to hold her and I was like hugging her. And then Rose was like hugging me. Um, and it was just like, we had like this hug train going through the whole time and we like, we're like baby step in. Well then, so you go through that first one and it got really dark and Aaron like left and it was pitch dark. And this last one, and then all of a sudden this like, it's you hear this like a horn and this truck thing like runs and it like moves
and it's like going to squish you against this wall or whatever. It's like, Oh shoot. Oh my God. So that's when I like remember grabbing, I was like grabbing Santana. I was like, Oh my God. No, I reached in front of Santana and I grabbed Aaron and I was like, so that happened. And then we went through that, that one to me wasn't as scary, but I guess it was, it was, I don't know. We all were like, it wasn't as scary or that one was more scary. I don't know.
We, it wasn't as scary at first, but now when I think about it, it was kind of more scary. Cause I think I was like not ready for it. The second one we went through smelled like they had like, it was like zombies and stuff and it had like, they had like dead bodies on the thing and people like jumping up on there, eating the zombies, eating the dead bodies and it smelled
like dead bodies and it smelled like dead bodies and cat pee. And so we went through that one and then the chain, we kept hearing chainsaws and Santana kept being like, Oh, I can hear the chainsaws. And I was like, it's okay. It's okay. Just keep going. Just out. She had her eyes closed and she was in front of me. Aaron was like way above in front of her and she was in front of me and she had her eyes closed and I was like directing her. I was like, go this way. And so at one point there
was this scary person and Rose would be like, Oh my God, Oh my God, freaking out this person. And I feel like the more scared you are, the more they mess with you. And this one dude was following Rose for like five minutes in the thing. And he was like standing behind her and I looked back and I was like, Rose, that dude is still following you. And she was like, Oh my God. Jerry and I went through Atrox years ago and it's the only time that I've been through there. And I mean, it was
like a good one, but it was only, there was only three of us. And so, you know, we needed a bigger group than that. So we're following these other people that we don't know. You've never seen them before in our lives. But all I knew is the guy in front of me had a light gray waffle shirt on. And so all I did was like put my hand out enough to where I could feel the waffle. Cause I couldn't like grab onto her. But I like made sure that I was like,
hello, I'm not scared to, you know, the people that were probably right. I would just like laugh at them. Because if you act scared, they go, yeah, I went to a crazy one. One time years ago, our mind adjust this friend Tanner. I went with her and this other couple. And I mean, we are in our early twenties and we went to six flags for the day. And then we went to this haunted house. Wait, so Jessica went to it? No, no, no, no, no, it was just the four of us. So me and Tanner,
and then this other couple. And we went to six flags and we went to this place and I can't remember what it's called, but it's in like this rug warehouse. It's huge. Like so big. It's one of the coolest ones that I've ever been to. But it took forever to get through there. And then the second one was like an obstacle course type haunted house. And I was like, this is fucking bullshit. You have to like climb over stuff, climb over stuff and climb in like in things like on
the on on your hands and knees, like crawling. We had to like go underneath little things. I don't like that. I want to control with my feet. And at one point was standing up straight all the way to the top. And we all had to duck like this. And she was just like, I'm just good. Yeah, no, I can't remember what the name of it is. And it's in like maybe Douglasville area outside of, you know, downtown Atlanta. But it was a really good haunted house. Yeah. So the scariest
part for me was when this chainsaws came and Santana was so scared of the chainsaws. She, the first one came and she booked it and she left me and I was like grabbing it. I was like, no. And I'm like standing there with nobody in front of me. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. And so I start taking off running, but then I have people holding on to me and I'm like, oh God. So I'm running. And I knew I was like Santana, if you run, you're not going to have anybody
with you. And there's somebody on the next one coming to get you. She starts running back at me. Started running back and I was like, I knew it. And then so that happened like twice. And then like the last one, it was like somebody had a chainsaw and she ran out the door and it was the last thing. And she was like, oh my God. Yeah, it was scary. Yeah. I don't, I don't like being scared. Brandon has been harassing me here lately. Every time like we go to, you know, pick something
to watch on TV or whatever and Netflix Hulu. And he'll be like, Oh, look at all the scary things that I don't know. Watch it by yourself. And that's what I told him. I was like, Wednesday. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. Hopefully Brandon, you're at home watching a scary movie by yourself right now. There you go. So yeah, because me out of that shit, DJ, it was DJ's
birthday. Like not a lot. It was like two weeks ago and, and he wanted us to go the weekend before or whatever, but like everybody got sick because we were all hung over from, we went to see, not last Friday, but the Friday before we went to see green sky blue grass at Avondale. Y'all did that last year, didn't you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, no, no. So DJ and Rose and my older brother, Eric went to that last year. Okay. But I thought Santana went, y'all did the flower crowns.
We did that for the Mason music festival for like the brook and the bluff. Oh, okay. Okay. So, but we, I made flower crowns for us this time and we got so many compliments, like they were cute, like fresh flower crowns for our green sky bluegrass thing. So we went to that and guess who we ran into? Pete. Oh, did y'all took a picture together, right? Or a snap or something. I don't know. Probably. I thought you did. Cause I thought that too. That was, but I wasn't even
going to open that can of worms. Well, so we're all hanging out like in the crowd. And then all of a sudden DJ and Aaron come running back and they're like, Pete's here. Pete's here. Pete's here. Can he, I was like, tell him to come over. Like, why are y'all being weird? And DJ was like, so wanted like Pete to come over. He like loves Pete, I guess. Or he, he always is trying to hook me up. He's like, is that, is that guy like, is that somebody you want to be like, is that a boo man?
And I'm like, you know, that kind of thing. So, so anyways, that was fun. He ended up showing up and he was in his full overalls and he had this like, like cutoff black jean, I'm assuming it's jean vest with like patches on the back. Like he looked like a farmer that rides motorcycles. Well, did he ride his bike there? Oh, I don't think so. No, he drove his car because he got me some tums out of his car. Um, so, but he has gotten a haircut and he has a mullet now. No, he does not.
But it's like a faux mullet. It's like, okay, so he goes like this, his hair, it's like, he has like a bob with his hair now. And then when he goes like this, it's like shaved on the sides to where he can push it back and it's a mullet. Oh my God. It's terrible. I was like, Pete, no, he loves it though. He's like, yeah, it looks so cool. And I'm like, no, it's so bad. I haven't seen it. I guess he
hasn't displayed it on the snapchats yet. I guess not. But yeah, so, um, so we saw that that was fun. Um, trying to think what else happened. I don't know. Anyways, let's see what's next on the agenda. Okay. So we have a little bit of time left and I kind of wanted to tell, we, I don't know what we were having a conversation about. We're talking about something and energy vampires came up and I was like, that's such a good, we were talking about it with Jessica. I don't even know what it was
about. And I was like, that's such a good topic for the podcast. Let's talk about it. Absolutely. And you know, like energy vampires reminds me of, have you ever seen what we do in the shadows? No. Oh my God. You have to watch it. It's not scary. It's like a, it's like a, it's like the office for vampires. It's like a, um, what do they call it? It's like a mockumentary, I think is what they're called. And it's like vampires and people are following around vampires to like document them,
I guess, like documentary of vampires, but it's like funny. And so there's one guy on there, his name's Colin Robinson, I think. And he's an energy vampire. So he's like this like white dude and he dresses in a sweater vest or like a sweater with like a tie. And he's like, I get, he's like, I guess they call him a psychic vampire or an energy vampire, but he like basically sucks the life out of you. That's how he stays alive is by sucking your energy away. But that just makes me
think about that. So I think about it sometimes because energy vampires, what does an energy vampire mean to you? Um, to me, I mean, I would say for the most part, it, I find it more applicable like in the workplace and things like that. And it's just somebody who is going to micromanage you or waste your time or kill the fun and just be a giant pain in the ass. And they make you just not have energy to complete your tasks. That's a good thought too. I never even really thought
about that. The only time I've ever really talked about it was at work. And I had a director one time who wanted us to like read this whole book on it or whatever. And so I did. And then we never talked about it. You want to talk about energy vampire, you wasted my fucking time asking me to read that book. And then you're not even going to talk to us about it as a leadership group. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to talk about that. And then we're going to talk about
that. So like chronic complainers, negative Nancy's and people like that. So, but okay. So sometimes I think I'm like, I'm wondering, am I an energy vampire? And do I do it sometimes? Because I know like I complain to people about stuff sometimes. So, but then I started like Googling it and I'm like, I don't think that's the same thing. Venting to your friends is not the same thing as you would be an energy vampire if you went to sit at black market by yourself,
found a random and complain to them. Oh, yeah. That's real messed up. Yeah. Yeah. But also, I mean, I guess you can be an, like, if you venting, there's a difference between venting and like dumping, I guess. Well, and I also think that energy vampires within like maybe your friend group is somebody who complains all the time or whatever, or it's always something with them, but then they don't want to listen to like what you have going on. They don't ask you about yourself
and what you have going on and that sort of thing. And then you feel drained after the conversation or- And you haven't had a chance to get anything off your chest or, you know, talk about yourself. And yeah. Yeah. They want attention constantly and it's all about them. So like they show up and it's like, oh, let's, the conversation is all about me, all about me, all about me. It has nothing to do
with you. And then if you try to turn it to you, it turns back to them. Yeah. Even if it's something as simple as like storytelling or whatever, like there's always a story and that's the most important thing, you know, that's happening in that moment with that group or whatever. And it's like, it's not always about you. Yes. Yeah. And so like, yeah, just making sure you know the difference between venting and dumping, because like, I guess venting would be like,
I don't know. So according to the internets of the world, venting versus dumping stuff, like venting would be like, okay, I'm going to talk about this, but like I'm talking about this because I'm trying to like understand the issue, understand the problem and like, and have a solve the problem. Yeah. Dumping would be like, just like coming in just to get the, just, yeah. Just to
get like the attention on you or to pull. Yeah. Yeah. It's just really that. And I don't know, I feel like sometimes I've the energy vampires that I have are like the people that constantly make me feel like I'm either like walking on eggshells, because if I say something weird, I'm like, or, you know, you can't talk to somebody about something because they're going to like, you can't talk, you can't bring up a conversation, a certain type topic of conversation because that
person's going to like twist it and turn it into like this terrible thing. Yeah. Even if you don't mean it in a negative way or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. I think that, and this is going to sound kind of weird, but hear me out on this. I think that there are absolutely energy vampires, even like in our TV shows and stuff, you know, like characters, whether it be reality or characters on a TV show, there are some characters that you're just like,
oh, I'm ready for them to be gone. I don't like their character, the role that they're playing, you know, whatever it just is like on love is blind. Well, they're not who would be our energy vampire on there. Stacey. Stacey. I don't know how to blend my makeup, whatever her last name is. Speaking of love is blind, we'll have to get to that on a different episode, but we, sorry guys, Sarah's been out of town, so we haven't done love is blind. No, but we are going to do it because
we have a lot to say. Yes, so much. Yeah. So who else, can you give me another example of like an energy vampire from a TV show? God, you're putting me on the spot. I'm trying to think of a character that people don't like, just globally didn't like type situation. I would say more on maybe a Grey's Anatomy type scenario or whatever. I think it would be safe to say, and obviously there are some people that may disagree with me, but I'm going back to the OG cast, but Christina
Yang was an energy vampire. She was only worried about herself being the best cardio, I loved her. Thoracic surgeon ever. I mean, I liked her humor. I thought it was funny, but it was always something with her. You know what I mean? Yeah. And she was always just trying to get to the top and be better and whatever. And I think her friends probably could have used a little bit more emotional support from her. I feel like that character would think that everyone else was an energy vampire from her,
but if she was like, no emotion, let's just do this, let's just do this. And everybody, she would probably think that. Right, but in a way that can, I mean, still could be an energy vampire because you're not giving anything that other people are giving to you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's just an off the cuff example. Yeah. So I'm trying to think of anybody else. It's just one of those things like, you know, when you watch a series or whatever,
and there's some character that just exhausts you. Yes. That yes. Yes. That's what I mean. And I'm trying to think of any characters, like any shows that I'm actually watching right now. What am I even watching? I mean, Game of Thrones, Joffrey, energy vampire, jeez, Cersei, energy vampire. Oh, they're the worst. Right? Like it was draining to watch them on that show sometime because it was just like,
you're emotionally involved in it, but you're also like, God bless America. Like can they just go away? But then without them, there would be no drama. When it's like you're, so there's also like energy, like trying to protect your energy. So like if you have energy vampires and maybe they're not sucking, they're sucking the life out of you. Maybe they're pumping in bad energy to you as well instead of like, yeah, sucking the energy out of you. I mean, I think it's one of like, when you
go through good episodes of things, like they can pump you up or whatever. But then when you go through bad episodes, like there's been times where I'm like watching some sort of TV show and I'm like, I have to watch something different. That's more positive. I just can't do this anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I need a break. Exactly. And you know, you get around somebody like, and I am probably, I feel like I'm guilty of probably being a Debbie Downer sometimes.
And I think that everybody may agree that they're also, well, I don't know. I, I complain about things for work a lot. And I feel like people are probably like, oh my God, she's always complaining about stuff. And, but it's not always, I mean, yes for work. Yeah. But I, I, I just feel like everybody may think, may at some point in their life have to vent and like do stuff like that and be like a Debbie Downer at some point. But like, I mean, this season and like
place that you're in work-wise or whatever is not going to be your forever. So in order to get through it, you need your people and you need to be able to say whatever you want to say about it to get through it. Well, but I don't, I don't, I wouldn't, maybe I am, but I wouldn't call myself an energy vampire. I just, I am on, I am heightened. I have a heightened awareness for
the things that might make me an energy vampire because I don't want to be that. And I know that, you know, if I were to like continue just like being negative and like, I don't, I don't want to be that, you know what I mean? So it was like, I mean, you definitely acknowledge like if you're going through one of those days where you're like firing off texts, cause you're fired up about something or whatever, like you fully acknowledged during that conversation.
I know this is a lot, you know, whatever we, sometimes I'll be like, don't even listen. Don't even read these. I'm just going to send them. You don't have to read them if you don't want to because I'm like, I just, somebody has to, it has to come out of me somehow. Yes. You know, and it's like, people are like, write a journal. I'm like, that takes too long. I don't know where the pen and paper is. Let me use my two thumbs to type off 37 messages
at the time I could write one page. Right. And then it's like gone and you're like, oh yay. I feel much better now. Yeah. I think that's fair. Yeah. They should, I wonder if there's a company that has like a, um, like just random like text number that you could text to vent to without getting answers or something, just to get shit off your chest. Surely they have like those, those like, um, therapy people that you can like text to that would actually give you a response.
Yeah. I don't know. I wouldn't text like a random number. I would be like, yeah. But you know what I'm saying? Like two five five five five and you know, and it just goes, it just goes into the ABS somewhere. That's like, wasn't there a movie or something that I was watching the other day where the girl like was texting her dead husband or boyfriend. Uh, is it the one with Priyanka Chopra? Yes. What is that called? Yeah. But I know what you're talking about. And it's got Harry
Styles in it. I think. Oh, is that who's in it? Yeah. They're both in it. Okay. I need to watch that. Cause aren't they married? No. Wait, who's Priyanka? She's married to Jonas. Jonas. Nick Jonas is in there. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he's, he's like a, he's not like a main character. He's like an idiot in there. It's really funny. Um, so yeah, but she's like texting a, like her dead husband and like some other dude gets the phone and it's like, yeah, yeah, it's good. I forgot
what it's called. I need to, I know what you're talking about, but I need to watch it. Yeah. Yeah. But see, you could like, what if somebody else gets that number? It was like they assigned it to him at work and he was like, what is this? Well, this person's texting me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but yeah, hopefully, hopefully if I'm ever an energy vampire guys, I really hope that you guys are like, E V, EV. That's going to be your safe word to know that you're being an energy vampire.
You're being an EV. I don't know. And stop being a vampire. It's like that song. Um, I don't know what it is, how it goes. Come on. You haven't sang the whole episode. I know, but I forgot how the song even goes. Like I know of the song, but I forgot of it, how it goes. Do you know what it is? No, I've known it. Well, anyway, so if I think about it, I'll like record it later or something, but yeah. So hopefully we won't have any energy vampires for Halloween.
Nah. Um, but let the good times roll. Yeah. What can we do? I don't know. I just, I like to protect my energy, but sometimes it is good to like, energy is also sanity. Oh my God. Yes, it is. And you are completely correct. Yeah. It is a sacred thing to hang on to. It is. Yeah. And that's why I think that was like my original response to you today about like Halloween or whatever is because I just, I think I need to like get through, you know, the week or whatever and
feel like back in my element. I mean, I'm still not even like fully unpacked yet. So it's been a little bit overwhelming to like come back and get back to reality and that sort of thing. So maybe I'll feel better next week. Back to life, back to reality. Listen, I have slept so good in my own bed. I cannot even tell you it has been the greatest week of sleep of my life. I've been going to bed at like nine 30. That's nice. It's been great. I tried to do that the other night
and I even took a pill. I've been having sleepy time tea, not even doing anything else, taking any other melatonin or whatnot. I took a unisom. Yeah. Well, there's two different types of unisom or there's multiple types of unisom. One of them lasts in your body a lot longer than the other one. I used to take the minis. Yeah. Well, I don't know which one I took. I took the sleep tabs last night and that is the one that lasts in your body longer than the others. And all this morning
I was like, uh, yeah, it was really, really, really bad. But I think I need to take the other one. My brother was like, Oh, this one might work better for you because the first one I was like, this is not doing anything. Should I take another one? And I'd taken two. And then like the next day I was like, cause it's an antihistamine. It was like taking like 10 minute drill or something. Not really. But I had, it was like super dry. Like he was like, just drink a bunch of water.
You'll be fine. I used to take the unisom minis, which I think are only 25 milligrams as opposed to the regulars that are 50, I think. Um, and they worked for a while, but then, you know, I mean, your body builds up tolerance and stuff like that. So you just gotta keep taking more, take more and more. Yeah. So I quit taking those. Well, Butterbean, it said we have to go. Butterbean say bye. Say bye. Give a kiss. No, no whinies. Okay. Well, you want to tell them,
tell them where to find us? Kisses on Instagram. I think I have podcasts. Is that Butterbean's voice? Yes. Well, maybe it should be different. Maybe let me try a different one. Um, I can't do it. I don't know. I feel like his voice would be like that. A little boy voice. A little boy voice. Does that sound like a little boy? Yeah. You can catch us on Instagram at TKFpodcast at gmail.com. I mean, that's our email address. Email, email Emily and Sarah and they will respond or maybe talk
about you later. Butterbean, you need to practice there, bud. I gotta go get my diaper changed. Give us five stars. Bye. Bye. Blood sucker fame ever bleeding me dry like a GD vampire. Abcdefg. I have to go.