Hello. Hi. Welcome back. How are you doing? I am well. Good. Yeah. Work's been a little bonkers getting ready to go out of town, but like are you taking off work too? Yeah. Yeah. We leave very early in the morning next Wednesday to go to New York to visit my mom. Brandon and I are flying and then I don't think that Thomas and Jerry, I think we just meet them in Syracuse, but Thomas and Jerry are coming, my sister and her boyfriend, and they'll be
up there with us for like five days, five, six days. Nice. So you're taking off five, six days. I'm taking off Wednesday through Monday. We got them a rental car to take to the airport themselves on Tuesday because their flight doesn't leave until about 11. Fun. Yeah. Yeah. So what are y'all going to do while you're up there? Well, I was thinking about this on the way over actually that we recorded an episode about leaf peeping. Oh
yeah. Leaf peeping. It's been a hot minute since- I know, but it's that time of year again. So we will be leaf peeping. We got an Airbnb for two nights, not too far away, but just it's on the water and we can go, you know, the six of us and hang out and, you know, just be out in nature and cook at home. And they've got a fire pit out there and I think like a canoe and maybe a little trolling motorboat or something, but it should
be fun. Nice. Yeah. I'm trying to be a little bit of a travel girly. So I got on the Amazons after scrolling TikTok for a little while to find the best things that you should have when you travel. And so I ordered some bags for your shoes, you know, so they are dirty, then it won't get the rest of your stuff dirty. What brand are they? Oh, I have no idea. So are they like, are they just like plastic? Are they clear? What do they look like? They're
not clear. They have patterns on them and they have like a handle. They zip down the middle. But I learned from you a long time ago that I need to buy things that have lots and lots of good reviews. So that's what I did. And then I got this other bag that like unzips and it has four different silicone containers in it for like shampoo, conditioner,
face wash, body wash or whatever. And it had a cute little like oval on the front of it where it looks like you should be able to like put a sticker or something, but it didn't come with any stickers. So I just wrote on there one letter with permanent marker for like face wash, you know, body wash, shampoo and conditioner or whatever. I just put one letter on there because I didn't know what else to do. And then I got some compressible
packing cubes. Yeah. So I can be, you know, packed responsibly. Yeah. You know, so I've got those two and I think that they work and I think that they're like, I'm like, oh, I'm so organized when I do it. But then when I get there, I'm like, why did I use these packing cubes? Everything's everywhere. And I'm trying to like figure out which bag it is. So what
I did is I got like, you should probably not use duct tape though. Like one time I went on a trip and I was when I went to like Vegas for like a whole road trip and I was like moving my packing cubes between bags and things like that because we had stuff in the back
of the trunk of the car and like just random stuff. So I got duct tape and I put like leggings on one bag, packing cube and then like, you know, t-shirts or whatever on the other one so that, you know, you can see it because most of those cubes are not like see through. Like I have some that have like the mesh on the front, but still I literally cannot tell what's inside because all my stuff is a black. So it's like, wait, I'm going to stick my
hand in there. Is this legging material or is this dress material? I don't know. So yeah, no, but I have those and they, I think they, they're good. I like them and I still use them but, and it is nice to like be able to move your stuff around. Like if you, cause I do a lot of, a lot of times I'll have like a carry or something like I can put, I can move like this, this little packing cube out of my suitcase and put it here without like
tearing apart my whole suitcase to try to figure out like an outfit or whatever. That's kind of nice. And I do have the shoe bags, but I do, I have like other things that I like got for free, like those Stitchix bags. I think you've seen those for the shoe bags. And then I also use like small Lululemon bags for shoes. And I use, I have these like, they're called IP bags and they're like from a hospital that I used to work at, infection prevention
bags and we bought them for something and they gave me a bunch of samples. And so I had brought like 10 of them home and they're probably all bad now, but like I put my shoes in there. I used to put like my brushes in it because like, like a round brush. So now I put it in a, like a little makeup bag that you can zip up. So I put the handle sticking out of one end and I zip the other end so that it doesn't get all funky. And it, and
it doesn't ruin my clothes when I put it in my suitcase. That's a good idea. Yeah. Do you think for 17 days you could do carry on only? Yes. I'm shocked. I would also probably want to bring some laundry detergent and do laundry. I hate. Well, I know. And that's, I think that's part of like where my head's at with this. Cause I'm going to be at my mom's house. I can do laundry. So I need to not overpack and I have a feeling I'm going
to fail at that, but I'm going to try really hard. I always overpack even if I'm not like, if I'm, if, if you tell me that if, if I was, I don't know if I didn't come tell myself I need to do a carry on size suitcase only, then I would way overpack. Like I, I try to be a minimalist, but I'm not at heart. I am not, but I mean, kind of, I am because I wear all black and like, but I'm not. And I, I want to be the person that doesn't have to
have like this and this and this to go. But then when I get there, I'm like, why don't I have any options? I feel like I need to pack less outfits if you will, because I am working while I'm there. Like I'm working three days, one week, and then four days the next week. So on those days, I'm not going to wear anything but leggings and a t-shirt. And there's not, I mean, we don't have a car while we're up there. You know, I mean, my
parents do, but like we don't go bebopping around. I don't have that many friends that still live there. And if I do most of the time, they come over to my house. I know I'll go to my parents' house for the weekend and I'll bring like a whole suitcase full of stuff because, and I know I'm not going anywhere, but as far as I, like I'll go up there and not have any plans, I'll be like, I'm coming back tomorrow. Yeah. And if I bring an overnight
bag with a toothbrush and like one outfit, then something's going to pop off. And I'm going to be there for the entire four days or something. I'm going to take off work on Monday and I'm going to not have any clothes. I know. And, but so then I always end up bringing extra stuff. And then I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to get up there. My mom's going to be like, you didn't bring your bathing suit. Why didn't I, I've told you your whole
life. You always, it doesn't matter if you don't pack anything. You pack your bathing suit. And like, that's like legit. Like we have that conversation. Really something she stands by a hundred percent. Yeah. Why you always have your bathing suit, just in case there's a pool at the hotel and you feel like going swimming. Well, there's not a pool in my mother's house. My mom loves to swim. It's also going to be cold as fuck there. So that's
true. But she would tell you to bring it anyways, just in case you're going to go do something else. Yeah. Also. So I have this engagement party that I have to go to and I have like, I'm bringing three options because I don't, I can't decide. I have this really cute jumpsuit, but I can't unzip it by myself. And I feel like it would be a pain in the ass. Is Brandon not going? He is, but I, is Jerry going? Yeah. She can't unzip you to the bathroom. I know.
Okay. So hold on question. Okay. Why can't you unzip it by yourself? Is it because your arm doesn't reach? Yes. Okay. They have little things that you can get on Amazon that are like little zipper pull things. It's kind of like, okay. So remember my tacky? No. So, and I don't know, I'd have to look it up. I'm looking it up right now. They're like little like, or you can just tie a ribbon around it. So my Spank stress that I ordered, remember
that it had like a really long little tiny tab thing. And you can't tell it's not hanging there like crazy, but so you can reach down and pull it. And it's like, so nice. You need it or you can reach over this way. Do what? It's got one of those little tiny zipper things though. So I don't even know if one of these would fit on there. They also have ones, I think that you can like, it's like a magnet or something that like you stick in your purse
and it like just sticks to it and it pulls it down real quick for you. I think they have those too. We'll have to look later, but yeah. Yeah. I'm going to have to look into that because I really want to wear it, but I don't want to mess with having to go pay eight million dollars. Well, let's just get you out like a little tiny, what color is it? Black? Yeah. A little tiny black like silk tie thing that will reach, you can reach it when you pull
around and you won't even be able to tell. They've got some that have like, oh my God, what if I walked around with this? What is it? A whole ass stick. Yeah. There's like a magnet. Does it like periscope down into so you can put it in your purse? It does go in half. How big is your purse going to be though? I don't know. I haven't picked it out yet. I don't know. Don't get that. No, but yeah, they have things you can, you can
figure that out. That is hilarious. Yeah. I'll have to look into that. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Zippers are hard. I know. Sometimes I've gotten so used to it because I've never had anybody that zips me up or down anymore. And so I'll be like, I'll like halfway zip it up and then try to put it on and then like, like contort my body.
Yeah. There's even a bathing suit that I couldn't get to buckle by myself. And so I just put it on as best I could went down to the pool and waited for the first person to get there. Like that I knew anyways, they could buckle me in and it was Mason. Well, he would have been okay. He would have been happy to do it. That's so funny. Speaking of by the time this episode airs, it'll have been his birthday and Melanie's birthday. So happy birthday
to Mason and Melanie. Happy birthday, Mason and Melanie. What day is Melanie's birthday? The 25th. Oh my God. Yeah. Mason's birthday was what? Last Friday? Or is it this? No, it's the Saturday. Oh, it's the 23rd. Oh, that's right. It's the same birthday as Lola. My wait, no hers is this is tomorrow. I don't know. It's this week. Hers is on the 22nd, I think. And then his, so her birthday party. So I'm not going to be here for Saturday.
I'm going to be in, I'm not going to be here either at Lola's jumpathon birthday party. Are you going to jump? Um, well I asked Daniel, I was like, uh, do adults get to go to? And he was kind of like, look at me like you really want to do that. And I was like, how does he not want to do that? And he was like, I mean, I guess because he probably does it all the time. I don't know. Um, so maybe we'll see. I don't know. I'm sure that she will
drag me out there with her. Be like, come on DM, come on. She doesn't call me on DM, but the others do anyways. Um, yeah. So we'll see. And, uh, yeah. So I went to the, uh,
Jessie Murph concert last weekend. So I didn't know I was going, um, Santana had tickets and she couldn't go because, because she was going on her honeymoon the next day and she had been, she had told me like the weekend or two weeks before that she had these tickets, but I didn't realize it was like the same the next day and I didn't put two and two together and she was like, oh yeah, I have these concert tickets that, and I was like,
she was like, I've got too much stuff to do. I know. I think she was trying desperately to go, but, but I mean like, yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. The ass cracker dawn to fly out. Exactly. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, she's a good thing. She didn't go, but she spent a lot of money on those tickets, I think. And I felt bad for them to go to waste. So I did not let them go to waste. I went by myself. I couldn't find anybody else to go
with me. And I was just like, whatever. I'll go by myself anyways. And I didn't have anything else to do to begin with. So I'm like, okay. Um, so I go, it started at six 30 or it was supposed to, so they had an opener and I didn't know that, but it was at Avondale. I get there at six 30 ish took me like 45 minutes to find a parking spot. Not 45 minutes, like 30 minutes. Um, it was really packed over there, which is usually is, but it's not usually that bad.
Even that new parking lot that they made over there. I haven't seen it yet. They, there was nothing in there. That's wild. So, um, anyway, so I get there and it's an interesting crowd. It's not like the normal Avondale crowd. What kind of music does she, oh, it's so good. So she, I think that people might think she's like country or something, but she is not country to me. She's like pop, like she is in my opinion. I think she's a mix between
like, like a new country artist mixed with Rihanna, Amy Winehouse and Adele. Oh wow. And she talented voice. Yes. Very good. She's tiny. She's like, oh really? She's like four or five or something like that. She's like a tiny, she's like, she's a tiny little girl. Yeah. Um, so, and I had never really, I'd heard some of her music, um, but I didn't realize it was her. Santana told me that I've heard it before, but I went out and looked
for it, but I didn't know what that Cowboys and Angel song. That's like, um, not off the top of my head. Cowboys and Angels. I can't do it. I can't, I don't know. Um, I'll let you listen to some later. That song and that later, there's a bunch of stuff. She's got a bunch of stuff. Um, so anyways, they had a guy, the opener, Henry Varis, I think is
his name. Yeah. So Henry Varis and I'm sitting there and I'm listening to this opener and he, he's not, he doesn't have all the bells and whistles like she does and like all the smoke and mirrors and blah, blah, blah. And like the, he's just like singing and he's
a good singer or whatever. And I'm like chilling cause I don't know who he is either. And I go and I sit on, you know, like across from the bar, like, like outside where you go into the, go to the bathroom in the inside where you can't go when there's a concert, like unless you buy the VIP tickets or whatever, there's like a little wall where they normally have food trucks over there. I was sitting on the little brick wall and these people
came and sat next to me and I'm by myself. Oh, well, hold on. Let me back up. Let me back up a second. Okay. So I'm sitting there and I've got this other ticket and I think there were like $150 tickets like, or something crazy. I mean, maybe they weren't a hundred bucks. Yeah. And so I am like, I have this ticket on my phone and I hate that, but there was like not anybody standing outside when I walked in to give it to you. So I was just
like, whatever. Well, then I see this lady standing outside of the gate. She is all dressed up in her like white cowboy boots and her like fringy outfit. She's an older lady. Like she's smoking a cigarette and she looks so cute. And I was like, I wonder if she doesn't have a ticket. Cause she's standing out there. I was like, I think you might be able to smoke
in here. I'm not sure. Cause it's outside. It's like an outside venue. I don't know if you can smoke in there or not, but surely she didn't walk all the way over there to smoke a cigarette and she's just standing there. She's probably just needs a ticket. So I went over to her and honestly she could have been lying to me and sold it herself. But I walked over to her and I was like, Hey, I was like, do you have a ticket or like,
are you just, are you just out here smoking or do you need a ticket? And she's like, Oh, I don't have a ticket. I'm just going to stand out here. And I was like, Oh my God, I have this extra ticket. Can I give it to you? Like I'll give it to you. What's your email? I got it from her, her email address and everything. I sent it to her and she got to come in. So I know I felt good even if she did sell it. You were exactly at least. So like, I feel
a little bit better that that ticket didn't go to waste. Yeah. You know. Um, and I told Santana, I was like, I gave your ticket to somebody. So hopefully she doesn't feel like her tickets went to waste either. But anyway, so now fast forward, I'm sitting on the wall and this man and this lady, this couple comes sit next to me and they're like older than us. Um, and the guy kind of has an accent, like a Northern accent. And he's like, Oh,
everybody here is so nice and saying all this stuff and blah. He was like, this is such a nice venue. And I was like, yeah. And he was like, uh, have you been here before? I was like, yeah. I was like, I live here. I come here all the time. And I was like, well, where are you from? Cause obviously they're not from here if they haven't been to Avondale before. Like, you know, and, um, or if they don't, you know, they don't know about it.
And they were like, Oh, we're from Chicago. We're his parents. And he's on the stage saying for Henry's and I was like, Oh my God, really? I was like, that's so crazy. And so I talked to, they were so nice. They were the nicest people. And I told him, I was like, look, you should because apparently he got on like Tik TOK or whatever. He was on Instagram and did his music and he has some stuff out there. And she reached out to him and was like, Hey,
I really like your music. Do you want to tour with me? And so they're following him around like on the whole tour. He was like, I'm going to go to like 11 of them and she's going to his, the mom is going to go to like eight or something. We have to go taking off work to go and they're driving everywhere. It's so sweet. I thought it was so cool. I was like, y'all are awesome. They were up there like dancing. Yes. I loved it so much. Like
I'm getting kind of chills right now. Cause I'm like, you know, and I told him, I was like, that's really, I was like, you should be really proud that you have us at like your son. I'm sure you're really proud. Yeah. They were like, thank you so much for saying that. Cause I was like, you should be super proud because not a lot of he's like 18 or 19. Oh wow. Yeah. Not a lot of people get to that experience. You know, that's so awesome. Yeah,
I know. So yeah, they were super nice. So, and I, I didn't get the man's name, but I believe the mom's name she told me was Rita. And so, Hey Rita and, and her hubby, y'all are so nice. And I hope you, um, I hope you enjoyed Birmingham. They did. They said they went and got some donuts or something and they were like, everybody here. Oh yeah. They were like, everybody here is so nice. So nice. And I was like, really? And they were like,
they were like, cause we're from Chicago. They were like, nobody beeps their horn at you at all. It was like everyone in Chicago was like laying on their horn all the time. I was like, yeah, well I was like, if somebody honks your horn here, their horn at you here, you like know you, you're like, Oh, what did I do wrong? Like I did something wrong. I said really bad probably. And they just said that, you know, everybody's nice and blah,
blah, blah, all that stuff. So, well that was good. Yeah, that was fun. What'd you, what else, what did you do over the weekend? Um, yes, I, so I went, I met Brandon and his family, um, at his niece's little cheerleading. They were cheering for the little boys football or whatever. Yes. So I went to Calera the, they hadn't a way game. So they played in Calera and by the way, there is no cell phone service there whatsoever where we went in
the stadium and there was not enough people there to cause a problem. It was ridiculous. And who was doing this? Brandon's nieces. Okay. We're cheering for like little boys football. And let me just tell you, those coaches are intense for the football coaches or cheerleaders, the football coaches, the football coaches. Yeah. These are like five and six year old little boys. And these men are like, get on the line. I mean, it was
crazy. I was like, I just, I mean, I don't, I played sports even as a kid, but like, I don't remember my dad like, and he did coach for me and Jerry softball, but I just don't ever remember him like really, you know, getting in our ass like that. We're also girls. So probably he didn't, but it was hysterical. The girls were so cute and their little uniforms. And so it ended up the bottom fell out. I curled my hair and everything. I was so pissed.
So it starts sprinkling. I'm like, I'm walking to the car to get an umbrella. So Brandon and I go to the car to get an umbrella. It's progressively getting worse as we're walking into the car. And so I get my umbrella. It's not a very big umbrella. I got it for $4 at the unclaimed baggage store and come to find out it also has a hole in it. Well, that's what you get. And how did you, did you drive the unclaimed baggage or did you like order
to buy it online or something? Oh no, this was years ago. Okay. It was like, like before 2016, I have you ever used it? Yeah. But I don't think it's a hole in the rain. You know what I mean? And so we sat in the rain. I mean, I was soaking wet. Everybody was wet. It was crazy. So we were going to go get some dinner afterwards. All of us. And cause they played in the rain and you stayed. Yes. I would have been like, I'm gonna send a car.
Listen, I did for a little while and we, me, Brandon and his aunt did for a little while. And finally it kind of led up for a bit and that didn't last long. It lasted long enough for us to get to seats, but it was, I mean, comical. So we're going to this Mexican restaurant afterwards soaking wet. Yes. I'm just picturing it. Oh, I know. And what'd your hair look like at this point? Oh, my curls were like just, it was this regular girl. Yeah. Well,
that's still cute. Mine would have looked like a wet dog. No, it was not wet dog, thankfully. And I had on like a skirt and a white, like cotton linen button down shirt that was completely see-through. Thank God I didn't wear that. I usually wear like this white lace unlined bra underneath it. Thank God I didn't. And I had like a tan bra on that had like a little bit of a lining. Otherwise you would have seen my nipples straight through my shirt
at a children's game. All right. Emily Radachowski, Kelsky, Kelsky, whatever her last name is. Ratatouille. Brandon and I have to drive separate to the restaurant and home. Why? Cause he came from work. Oh, gotcha. And so I can't get, my phone is not working and I'm trying to get this address from Brandon. And so I'm like, I'm just going to have to follow you. Like I can't get this. I can't get, I don't have any service. Like I can't do this by
myself. So I just have to follow you. So we go to like leave the stadium parking lot or whatever. There's a car coming and this dude doesn't even stop at the stop sign and just pulls out. I'm like, that defeats the whole entire purpose of me following you. Like what? It's raining. It's dark outside. What are you doing? Wait, so Brandon pulled out? Yes. And so I couldn't follow him. You couldn't follow him. Why? Because there was one car
like it. Yeah. I mean it was pouring rain and it was dark outside. So it was hard. You didn't know which car was which. So thankfully, no I didn't. So thankfully my GPS was started talking to me. Nothing visually came up. So I was just hoping when that bitch said turn, I was turning at the right place. So after we go to this Mexican place and of course it just takes everybody forever to like gather there. And so, you know, I ate all the chips
all same case so that my heart desired. So I brought like my most of my meal home. Like I had two bites of stuff or no, it wasn't home from that. Actually we had Mexican again on fricking Sunday. Didn't we after the pool? This is the good story that I was going to tell you. So I got a to go box from Sunday night. Which store are we on? Are we on the cheerleading one? No. Okay. This is Sunday after the pool. Yes. That was Brandon left
me and I had to get there by myself. Okay. Saturday. But then Sunday we went to Mexican with some neighbors after the pool and I brought dinner home and they put it in one of those like environmentally friendly containers that, you know, it's kind of like papery or whatever. Yeah. I'm talking about like those cheapy boxes or whatever. Like I understand that they're good for the environment, but like they're not great to go boxes. So I guess
it was yesterday. Yeah. It was yesterday. Um, I ate part of it on Monday for lunch. So then I went to go eat the rest of it yesterday for lunch and it's missing. I had meetings all morning. Brandon was meal prepping stuff in there or whatever. And so I just assumed that it got like, I don't know, moved to a different spot than where it was. So I'm looking and looking and looking and looking for this food to eat for lunch. Cause I had like one
hour to eat lunch. So I didn't want to cook anything. So I can't find it. I don't know what I did, but I went to go put something in the trash. He threw my Mexican away. Why? I thought he ate it at first. He threw that bitch away. Why would he do that? I was so mad. Would you not have been mad? I would have been pissed. Why would he do that though? So I text him and I said, what happened to my Mexican? I think this was before I found
it in the trash. And then I said, he never answered me. And I said, nevermind. I found it. Why did you throw it away? He said, the box was leaking. I said, so put a plate under it. Yeah. What the hell? Put it in a new container. We have 7,000 Tupperwares now that you started moving your shit into my house. What the fuck? Put it in something else. Put a plate under it. I don't understand what's happening. So he owes you Mexican food. Well, that was at
like one o'clock and that's all the time I had. So then I got done with a meeting about 2.30 and checked my phone and he had sent me a text said, your lunch is outside. He had ordered Mexican food. Chips, like two bags of chips. Did he get you something you wanted though? Yeah. It was steak fajita quesadilla, which I love. So it was perfect. But I was dying laughing. I know. He felt so bad. He knew I was bad. I feel like anybody that I
have ever dated or they probably would not have done that. So you have a good one. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Or he just is like, I don't want to hear the wrath of Sarah when I get home because of my quesadilla. Well, I thought I handled it pretty well though, because like in my text, I was like, next time, please at least communicate with me. You can put a plate under it. Please just don't throw my food away. Because I am the one who's home.
Right. Yeah. Late here lately, I can't do shit during the day. I can barely have time to eat. So when I do, I don't want to have to cook anything. Right. And it's expensive when you... Oh yeah. Well, and then he was like, you can have a BLT. And I went and looked at it. There were two pieces of bacon left. There was no bread. I had a BLC with cheese on a fricking wrap. And that's all I had at first. And then I was still starving. And
I was like, I guess I'm gonna have some soup out of a can. That's what I ate yesterday. Yeah. I didn't, I haven't had any food. I had to go. I went to Chick-fil-A today. I didn't eat breakfast because I was like, I don't really have anything to eat. And I'll just like later go. I didn't have any meetings on my calendar today until about 10 30. And then I got like 15 meetings put on my calendar for the day. And I was like, seriously? And
I thought most of them were going to be like 30 minute meetings. No, no, they weren't. They were more than an hour. And if they were an hour, they were over an hour. Okay. So at like 10 30, then my computer is like doing it's like updates for the third time in the past week, like work week days. Well, no, it's not the computer. It's the, the company pushing out updates on the VPN or whatever. And so it's like your computer requires a restart.
And so, and it's like going to force the restart in an hour or whatever. Yeah. And I'm like, I couldn't push it out anymore. And so I'm like, are you fricking kidding me? So I was just like, let me just close everything out, restart it. I'm going to Chick-fil-A. It was like 10 30, 10 45 11. So I went to Chick-fil-A. I got Allison some soup cause she's got COVID and I got myself a chicken sandwich meal with a diet lemonade, tall and light ice. Have
you tried their new pimento cheese? No, I was going to order it, but then I was like, you know what? I'm probably not going to like it like the OG set, but Jessica said that she tasted it and she and Dale got one and they liked it. I'm about to text Brandon and tell him I want that tomorrow for lunch. Yeah. I mean that, that sounds good. Um, it does,
it looks good. I just, I don't know. It's, it's different for it's kind of like, it sounds to me more like a something that they would have it like a Hardee's because I feel like Hardee's has always has like very risque sandwiches. Yeah. Yes. Risque. They're like, we're coming out with this new sandwich and it's kind of like, we're going to have a sexy commercial. It's like the McRib or something. And she's, it's going to be like Kim Kardashian eating
the burger. Yes. Really sexy. Dripping barbecue sauce down her boobies. Yes. Yeah. So, so yeah, but no, I haven't tasted it yet, but if you get it tomorrow, let me know how it is. Cause I don't need to be doing Chick-fil-A twice in a week, but um, if it is good, I might get it like Friday or something, you know? Yeah. I think I want it without the honey on it. No, that's like the best part. I think that they, I know you need to do it.
Don't do it without the honey. What is wrong with you? I don't know. Cause I kind of want it. It's very light. Talk to Jessica first before you order it because I don't think it's a lot of honey and talk to Dale too. Cause he said they both had it. I'll consult the cordels and Jessica doesn't like Chick-fil-A and she said she liked it. She doesn't like Chick-fil-A. I know. Isn't that crazy? I didn't know you didn't know that. She's been talking
to, she told, she was like, yeah, I don't even like Chick-fil-A and I liked it. You want to know what she does like? What? Wendy's. Really? I like Wendy's too, but like I like Chick-fil-A forever. I like their Frosties. I like to dip my French fries in it. And I don't know what else I like to eat from Wendy's. I'm pretty sure Jessica is the one who taught me how to eat French fries with ranch dressing from Wendy's. Oh, their ranch is not good
though. It's not, but that's where I learned how to have ranch dressing. Fast food restaurants need to start having good ranch. Hell yeah. Like homemade. Yeah. I don't know what their deal is. These like ranches and the things that taste like hidden Valley, hidden Valley ranch, unless it's the packet that they made with buttermilk. I will eat no, nothing with my fries or I would rather have like honey mustard. I don't eat ketchup. Do you eat ketchup?
Not really. I like ketchup. I don't like ketchup with my fries. I don't either. I don't get ketchup on a burger. That's disgusting. I do. But if it got to have mayonnaise and ketchup and onion as well and cheese, cheese for sure. No, I ain't lettuce, pickles, mayonnaise and cheese. That sounds good too, but I'm not a really big like pickles on my burger person. I want extra, extra, extra pickles. I like pickle on the side. No extra, extra, extra
pickle. And then it's like Popeyes has that Mardi Gras mustard. That's like spicy mustard and that shit is delicious. I never had that. Yeah. It's good. It's real good. All right. Speaking of some food and I have some FMKs. So we'll do a couple of these. Okay. So your choices are going to be popcorn, whiskey and David Beckham. Okay. So, okay. These are, so I'm fuck, marry and kill David Beckham, popcorn and whiskey. Yes. Killing popcorn.
Marrying whiskey and fucking David Beckham. 100% agree. Yeah. Why? Well, like- Could not agree more. And I don't know. I kind of have some sort of explanation behind that. David Beckham, isn't he already married to Posh Spice? Yeah, for sure. Victoria. And I like her and I would never do that to her. I mean, even though he's loaded and like really hot, but you know, he's not going to like me. Just bang it out one time, call it a day.
Right. Also, like whiskey is always going to be there for me. Hell yeah. And whiskey, what did they say? What's that song? Nevermind. I don't know. But one of those songs that they say about whiskey. You want to do another one? Yeah. Okay. French fries, brandy and Channing Tatum. Okay. Well, we're going to kill the brandy, fuck the French fries and
marry Channing Tatum. Oh my God. Channing Tatum, I love him because he's like cute and funny and he's kind of like, I think he might be smart, but he acts dumb and I like that about people. Yeah, I agree. And he probably isn't that smart, but I think he might be because he is where he is. And he's like, he kind of is like all American boy. All American stripper. Yes, exactly. But also he's funny and he's like in all these, I don't know.
I just like that. And then what was the other one that we said? Brandy. That's disgusting. I don't even like brandy. So kill that. But I will say that I did when I went to my senior trip. I might fuck Channing Tatum and marry French fries. Really? No, depends on the French fries. Oh, for sure. Yeah. But so brandy, I took a wait, are we talking about brandy the drink or brandy the singer? No, the drink. Okay, just remember it's food, alcohol, men.
Yeah. So brand, my senior trip in 2006, that was a long time ago, almost 20 years ago. So 2006, we went to Cancun for my senior trip for high school. Yeah, it is wild. And you can bring back, so every day you get and get like a handle of liquor. And so the girls that were staying in my room, we all, every day that we stay there, we were there, I don't know how long we were there. We each got to get one to take home with us. And we put it
in our bag to take home and you could take it through customs. And I, for some reason, got freaking brandy because I think it was like the one that got there that was like offered to us. I don't know. And so I had a thing of brandy. I know it's so gross. I may have had two of them because I remember going through customs and being like so scared. We drank, I don't remember, I'm sure I did. It was, I was in college and probably, and
I wasn't of age. Yeah. I hate to incriminate myself. I played the fifth, but you already incriminate yourself. So does it matter now? All right. I'll do one last one. Cause I think this is a good one. Pizza, beer, and Zac Efron. Kill Zac Efron. I totally agree. Except for he did, he's got this thing and I cannot make myself watch it. I've tried. I know what you're talking about. He's got the new thing. It's like a travel thing or something. And it kind
of looks like it might be cool. Yeah. But I just can't get over. I don't know. He's, I don't know. Yeah. Brandon tried to watch it too and I couldn't get into it. Yeah. And he's hot and everything. Yeah. Like whatever, but sorry. And what were the other two? I just beer and pizza. Oh, fuck the pizza and marry the beer. Opposite for me. Marry the pizza. Fuck the beer. Depends on the beer though. And the pizza, if it's cheese pizza,
I don't know. I think I'm still sticking with my stuff though. That was funny though. Wasn't it? It was. I like that. So today we are going to talk about decision fatigue, decision fatigue. Have you ever had some decision fatigue? Yeah. Same. I know. So earlier today I was like, what if we do, what if we talk about decision fatigue? And Sarah's like, Oh my God, I think I have that. What is that? I think I need this. We need to talk about this. And I'm
like, yes, you probably do. I do 100%. And I've had this forever. And I think Steve jobs agrees with all people and that decision fatigue is real. And let me just tell you what it is. Decision fatigue is apparent. Like I said, it's a phenomenon. It's not like as opposed to like a medical condition, it's not a medical condition. It's not like a disease. It's not
like something like a thing. It's just, it's a phenomenon. It just happens. It's a situation where the more decisions a person makes over the course of a day, the more physically, mentally, and emotionally depleted they become. A person experiencing decision fatigue struggles with executive functioning, which I think is very interesting. And this can have a bunch of different types of consequences and things like that, including like impaired judgment.
And so basically they're saying that the more decisions you have to make throughout the day, you wake up, you have to make a decision on whether or not you're going to hit snooze. Like that's a decision. There's so many decisions. Decision, do I take my dogs out first or do I get in the shower first? Do I go pee first before I take the dogs out? I'm like, I'm putting my own mask on first. I'm going to pee first if I got to really go. But then I'm like, my dogs are
freaking out at me. So that's a decision. I mean, like literally everything you do is a decision. Yeah. I don't think that we really think about it like that. And I certainly didn't based on, but I do like what you said to me earlier, which was Steve Jobs, like the thing that he did, at least part of what he did anyways, to avoid that was his quote unquote uniform for work, which was
a black turtleneck jeans and sneaks. Like he didn't have to make a decision about that. And I don't think that we, when we think about decisions, I think that we think that somebody is putting like options in front of us, like at work verbally, you know, that sort of thing. And we don't think like you just said about snoozing your alarm as that as a decision. Yeah. And it absolutely is. What are you going to have for lunch? That's a decision.
And I feel like I wear the same clothes to work because it's less of a decision for me. Well, and that's, I tried to be like Steve Jobs for like a couple of years, actually for like a year. So I literally got rid of all of my clothes, except for one type of pants and like these black tank top things. And I was going to wear like black, like pants, dress pants, black tank top, and a cardigan. I was like, I can wear this. It's like a capsule. I can wear it in
the winter. I can wear it in the summer. Yeah. And I was like, gonna do that. And then and then life happened. And I realized that that's not me, but I do. I mean, I still do the all black, which is still kind of helpful with the decision thing, because I know that people are always like, well, what are you going to wear? I'm like, well, I'm wearing a black dress. I'm wearing a black something. I ask her that all the time. And for just like, I can't remember that she's allergic
to damn agave. I just feel like I'm going to get a different answer other than a black dress. Well, but though, but even though I am going to wear like a black dress, I need to know what the type of black dress I'm going to wear or what type of black outfit I'm going to wear. Like, are we dressing up? Like I always ask, I'm like, well, what are you wearing? Because I, and I know I'm going to wear like the same thing. I'm know I'm going to wear pretty much the same thing
because I have everything black essentially, but I need to know the genre of black. Right. So that's still a decision, but I do, I do kind of wish I liked the Steve Jobs thing. I think his is a little extreme for like situations for like me, cause he was like an entrepreneur, also a bajillionaire at one, at some point. So he can wear whatever he wants and get away with it. I can't, you know, I can't go to work with jeans, like light colored jeans, a black turtleneck and white
sneakers. I think it would stress me out to wear the same thing every day. It would stress you out. Why though? Because I would feel like people would think I'm like dirty or poor and I'm wearing the same outfit and like not taking a bath. Is that what y'all think about me? No, no, no. Well then, see, that's what I've always thought. I was like, people are going to think that, cause they've seen me in the same outfit, cause I wear it all the time, but it's literally like not the same thing.
Right. But, and so you know what, who cares about what other people are thinking? I know, I know. That's, but then also you think about, so I went to Catholic school when I was younger and we had to wear uniforms. Oh yeah. And I think about that and I, I didn't like it then, but I didn't really understand. Right. I love the uniform idea so much, like have a bunch of things, like the same outfit.
You're completely correct. It takes any decision-making out of the game. It also, I think would probably be helpful for children and parents because they don't have to worry about it. They just have to put the clean one on. Exactly. And then no kids are making fun of them for whatever they're wearing at school, you know, or your child is not going out looking like an
asshole and all mismatched. Right. And even if it's so, listen, even if it's not necessarily like super clean, like maybe you wore it one day and it wasn't that dirty, you can still put it back on and nobody knows the difference. Cause it's not the same, it's not the same shirt you wore twice in a row, but that's supposed to be different, you know? Yeah. That's so true. Just saying. Like, I mean, it's truth. Like I, I am, man, I hate to say it. And I think that people
should be able to express their whatever, their, you know, fashion, fashionista. What do you say? Your express your, yourself, express yourself with your outfit. Cool. But seriously, can't you just use your personality to express yourself? Well, I mean, I don't know if I agree with that necessarily. I mean, it is self-expression and I think that some people may need that in order to feel more comfortable in, in maybe in their own body, their own mind, whatever. Um, but, and maybe they don't
have a personality. Well, but also not everybody has the same means to get 100% clothing and things like that. And so that kind of like, it helps even the, the playing field and people don't get picked on and things. I mean, they'll still get picked on for other things, but like at that point, it's like the way the interwebs is then you're weird. I'm just kidding. Oh my God. I'm embracing the weird. I'm being weird Barbie Barbie for Halloween and I can't fricking wait. Well, that's clothing
though. So, but like if you had to wear a uniform for Halloween and everybody had to wear the same thing, they could only make fun of you for your personality. That would be the most boring Halloween ever. It would be awesome. Can you fucking imagine? What if we all dressed up as the same thing for Halloween? That'd be really funny. No, it would be terrible. Why? It'd be hilarious. It would not be as hilarious as I've seen on some of these TikToks where like these people go on like couple
strips and they've got like six couples there or whatever. And the girls all buy the husbands, like the same shirt, but don't tell everybody. And then they make them show up at dinner. Have you seen, did you see Santana Snapchat of Aaron? She and Aaron are on their honeymoon right now and they were at dinner. They met two other couples and Aaron and the two dudes were sitting next to each other and they were all matching and she was like, this wasn't planned. And I was like,
oh my God, that's hilarious. She was like, yeah, they just showed up and they all have the same color on. But I like the, I think that's funny, but I like the girls like buying, cause they're like ridiculous Hawaiian shirts and shit like that, but they're all the same and none of them know that they're all wearing the same shirt. So like the first one that comes out and sees, you know, that one guy already has it. It's like kind of funny, but then when everybody else, yeah. Then
when everybody else are like, oh, we got got. And it's like, they'll be like, oh, thanks. You don't, I wonder if they don't want to admit that, oh yeah, my, my wife bought me this or whatever. They want to be like, yeah, yeah, man, would you get shirt, Tom Bahama or something like that. Then like everybody else shows up and you're like, oh yeah, okay. This is weird. Oh, I love it though. That is funny. So decision fatigue. Let's get back to some of these,
these decision fatigue things. Yeah. Oh well, yes. So why do you think decision fatigue happens? I mean, I, are you, do you have an explanation? Yes, I do. But I'm just curious if you. Yeah. I mean, I think it happens because our brains can only take so much during the day and, you know, with work and I mean, just everything in your real life anyways, like it's exhausting to have to think so much about things. Agreed. So that's, that's one of the things.
So you like, you make a lot of decisions every day and then like, if your decisions impact other people, that's another like. Oh, different layer to it. Yes. Because that means that like, oh, it's going to be more stressful. Right. Or you're in the midst of a difficult life situation. So like, you have to do something for like a funeral. Yeah. Like, or like potentially a wedding. Right. Like that's not necessarily difficult. That's difficult, I wouldn't say as
the word. It's, it's stressful. Yeah. Can be stressful. I mean, it is. And I'll say this much, like since you referenced like the wedding or whatever, I finally got a list of places from my travel agent and I sent them to Brandon and you know, Jerry and I looked at them and everything and I sent Brandon, this is, you know, what I rank, you know, one through whatever. And we had to get rid of a couple of them because they were adults only. And these are the places.
Yes. And who are their children coming? Yes. Like his nieces. I have a cousin with a kid and I don't care, they can come. But also you, if you think about it, like little kid parts of like a resort, like if they have a slide or something, an adult's going to use it. Are they? We did when we were at the Phoenix in Orange Beach one time. Oh yeah. We went down the slide a lot. It also had a
lazy river. We went in it a lot. So I wouldn't call that a children's portion. No, but that if there are children in the lazy river, I'm not getting in it because they're peeing all over it. It's disgusting. But needless to say, like I picked my top two or whatever, or then I just sent my ranking to my travel agent and then Brandon did his today and he picked something that was like fourth down on my list. So it stressed me out a little bit because I was like, really? Like you're
really going to pick the one that's fourth down on the list or whatever? And I was like, do I tell her? Do I not tell her? I can't cheat him out of that. That's not fair. No, don't do that. No, and I didn't. I sent it to her immediately and was like, this is the one that he likes the most or whatever. But I mean, that like is stressful still because like he and I are on the same page. But it's only stressful because you want your way and you don't want him to have his way, but you also
want him to be happy. Yeah, absolutely. But you're definitely wanting your way. 100%. I mean, who doesn't want their own way? And so then are you going to go have to like have a conversation with him about why yours is better? Is that why you're stressed? Well, no. I mean, she's going to price all three of them for us. Okay. So I mean, it's just going to come down to the more information we get and whatever pricing looks like. I mean, if his turns out to be the most expensive agent,
and it's not my number one. Did he tell you why he liked it? Yeah, he did. And did did it help sway you? I think that he did have relevant points. I don't remember exactly what he said. And they were valid points. And I understand that. But I think I think he and I, and we haven't had like a face to face conversation about any of this yet. Like what, what are the things that make you desire whatever resort or and for me, it's more what is the, what are the pools look like? What
restaurants do they have? And because I don't really care about the room that much. We're, you're not going to be in there that much. Oh, I do. I mean, I think that was, I don't, I don't know. I do. I want it to be disgusting. Absolutely. Right. Exactly. Like, but like, none of those places are going to be gross. I mean, you're in there to sleep. Like I, I want it to have a nice pool, good restaurants and a great beach, you know, situation. And I don't, I think he said something
about like good pools, but then he said, I think his had like a bathtub or something. He's like, I want to walk around naked in the room and take a bath. No, I don't give a shit. When do you ever take a bath? He doesn't. Yeah, like no, no, they always have these bathtubs that have like the overlook over the like whatever you can like, and open the window. And I'm like, the curtains will be closed while I'm
taking a bath. Like, because there are people walking by and no, but like also, I mean, we did. So when I went to Cancun, I'm thinking about Cancun because I think that's may have been, it hasn't been the last time I went to an all-inclusive place, but it's the first time I went to an all-inclusive place. And I do remember we had bath, we had like hot tubs in our rooms and it wasn't a hot tub, hot tub, but it was like a Jacuzzi. Yeah. I guess is what you would call it. And
I remember we all got in the Jacuzzi one night. Like everybody was in the Jacuzzi's like in the rooms, not in my room, but like in some people's, some other people's rooms. We also did like absinthe and stuff like that too. So like, I don't know. That's probably why we were in the bathtub and we were 18. So, but like now I'm like, Ooh, the bathtub, I don't know, like cool. It might be nice for you guys because it's like a honeymoon ish too. Yeah. Like that
would be cool to like hang out in the bathtub together if. Yeah. I mean, I think at this point, like we need to go sit down together, go back through the three places and really talk about really talk about like what's important to each of us at each place or whatever. And then, you know, we'll figure it out. I mean, I'm, if his ends up being the place, it's the place and that is what it is. And I'm fine with that. I want an, I want a report afterwards when you find out, because we
need to know if Sarah got declined. It's going to be sad. She's going to be like, guys, it came back and Brandon Brandon's place got picked. She's going to be all sad, but it was cheaper and something, something, something is probably going to be, it's either going to be like way more expensive or way cheaper. Well, and I did, I've actually stayed at that prop branded property before in Cancun. It's not that same exact property, but I have stayed at, uh, uh, right.
It's similar. Yeah. Gotcha. So, but no, I mean, back to, yeah, back to the, back to the physician, physician to fatigue, physician, to teague, decision fatigue is what I mean. Um, um, so I was saying that these are the things that, why it happens and you're a face with uncertainty as another one. So like, maybe like COVID's happening and like, you're not really
sure what's going on or something. And you know, stuff like that. And then maybe you have perfectionist tendencies and you know, if you're, everything is your standard is perfection, which both of us have that I have let go of a lot of that recently, but you have it 100% for a lot of things. I feel like, don't you think? I mean, I'm not trying, it's not, I don't think it's a bad thing. I think it's a great thing. Well, I mean, I've taken into account the previous conversation
that we had about 80, 20 and things like that. So I'm definitely trying to be better, but yeah, I mean, it, and it comes down to like, you know, when, when do I reply to this email? That's a decision. You know, how do I reply to this email? That's another decision. I mean, every, every single day is full of decisions. What is coming out of our mouths right now is a decision. 100%.
But then it's like, what I decide depends on what happens next. So I'm like, if I decide not to respond to this email, is my boss going to be pissed off at me for not doing it in two seconds? And so then you have that whole other stressor on top of you of what's going to happen if I don't do this kind of thing. Or if I do, you know, that's, and so that's, you know, the perfectionist thing, I think comes down. It's like, it's another stressor. So, you know, so there are signs that
you have decision fatigue. And I think that we, I have it for sure. I get it a lot. Oh, 100%. I mean, when you just like cannot emotionally take anything anymore, like, and you just don't want to have to do anything like even down to, you know, turning a show on the TV and not really feeling like you can even pay attention to it. Oh my God. Yes. That are mindless watches for you because. Or like you can't decide on what to watch because there's so many to choose. It's like going
to eat at Cheesecake Factory. Oh yeah. Their menu is 40 pages long. Like, no, I have the one thing that I even know. I don't even know. I've been getting the same thing since college because my friend Cassie, I was like, this menu is so big. I don't know. She was like, you need to get the macaroni and cheese balls. And like we, it's an appetizer that, or I think I get like, I've gotten
like the bang bang shrimp. I don't know if she can say it factory though, but I do like when it comes down to stuff like that, like I will go look at a menu ahead of time if I possibly can to help me make a decision already and not have to. Yeah, but you're still having to make a decision. I know I'm not saying it's avoiding making a decision. I'm saying it's avoiding more of like immediate rush decision or whatever. Cause like when we go to supper club or whatever, I want to
sit there and talk to everybody. I don't want to have to worry about something. So if I come prepared then I'm good to go. Well, but that I do that too sometimes if I have time, but that will also add to your decision fatigue. And so this is all, and I just want all my friends to know that this is another reason that I, there are other reasons, but this is one of the reasons that I ask the server what their favorite thing is. Okay. Because I don't want to make the decision.
Like, and that, so if it sounds remotely good to you, whatever they say, normally I look and I have a couple of things in mind that I would probably normally go to, but usually I'll be like, what do you like? Because they know they eat there every day usually. Yeah. And if they start saying, and you can tell when somebody's like, well, if they don't have conviction, I'm a vegetarian or I'm this
or I, I would not. And I'll be like, okay, I'm not going to get that because, or I'm not trusting that person necessarily because maybe they haven't had these other things because like I, just little things. Like I just, you can tell if, if you should trust that person or not. Oh, like at the place we went last time for supper club, you should not have trusted him. You probably shouldn't even have asked him. Oh, wait. Oh, from the, yeah. No, no, no, but his, that one was good. Whatever he said.
I was like, what's your favorite thing? I got that too. I got that and I got, I don't know, but there was also, it was confusing on how you did stuff. And I was like, too much decision, literally decision fatigue on this menu. And the menu was literally a placemat size front and back. That was it. Yeah. It was tiny, but it was like, you had to like choose your type of taco. You had to choose your type of meat. You had to choose all the different things to put on your stuff.
And I'm just like, can somebody just do this for me? Like I'll just eat it as long as it's good. You know, that's what I want. And like I, so I have literally sat down to dinner before and I've been like, I can't decide. I can't, and you know, I used to think I use, and I do get pissed off sometimes because like when I was a child, I remember my mom would like order my food for me all the time. And I think about it and I'm like, I used to get really like in my head, like why is
she ordering? Like what if that's not what I want kind of thing? I mean, obviously it was like what I wanted, but she did that for me for a very long time. Still, sometimes I look at her like, what should I get? And I feel like that is kind of rolled over into, but also I don't know if it's that from a childhood or if it's me just being like, I don't want to make a decision because I've made too many decisions today. And this is my way of getting out of that by asking her. Exactly.
Because you know, she's going to give you an opinion. Oh, one on that. Yes. She's like you and her with the food, you're like, and like, that's why I'm always like, okay, what are you going to get? Like, or like if, cause I wouldn't, there are certain people that you just go to for certain things and food is one thing that my mom normally is like, yeah, you should get that. And
I'm like, okay. Um, or, but sometimes she'll be like, you should get whatever you want. And I'm like, no, I don't want you to tell me that I'm like, I know I can get whatever I want, but I want you to tell me what you think I should get. Um, that kind of thing. So anyway, so signs that you have this is like that you have decision fatigue would be like procrastination or decision avoidance.
So you can like purposefully forget to go to the vet or forget your vet appointment or something so that you don't have to like, decide to have the surgery for your cat or something, you know what I mean? Or you might be procrastinating without not, without even realizing it. Like I'm trying to think of a time where I've done this, where it's like, okay, I'm going to push this off so I don't have to make a decision. Um, which happens a lot, I think. Yeah, for sure. Um,
um, impulsive, impulsive, impulsivity, impulsivity. I was going to say impulsive is a D impulsivity. If you've been doing it, which makes complete sense. Yes. If you have been stressed out about making all kinds of decisions, that one, the straw that breaks the camel's back, you could just be impulsive about whatever it is and make a potentially terrible. Yeah. You can be like, Oh my God, I can't make another decision. I'm just going to go to McDonald's real quick and
eat this like Big Mac. And which is so good. Probably sometimes they're good. Sometimes they're stale depends. Um, what spending too much money online would be an impulse thing. Yeah. Or like, so I have actually gone, gotten to the point sometimes where I'm like searching for somebody's like Christmas present, birthday present. And I'm like, I've been searching for a month and I'm just like, Oh my God, Emily, stop going over and over and over just by something. And I do that. And
then I'm like, Oh my God, that was kind of impulsive. I did the same thing. Yeah. And, but it wasn't necessarily good giver. So like that decision making is like very stressful. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. For sure. Um, exhaustion. You can do it because you're exhausted. Like this is, see it is exhausting and emotionally taxed. And I can't talk today. I think that's the line. Emotionally taxing. Um, you know, I think I have that stressing about what color
my nails are going to be next. This is a long pause on purpose because I'm looking at Sarah like seriously, I've been on the Google's already trying to figure it out. Why? Because you need to have the pretty picture with that pretty ring. Let me see that ring again. Let me see. Blank. Blank. Why would you get it if you don't want people to say it? Blank. Blank. Okay. So another sign is that you have like brain fog. Um, are you having trouble? Fent the talking?
Are you having trouble? Fatigue. How about what's coming out of your mouth? Yes. Seriously. We need some outtakes. Yeah. Have you, has your train of thought left your brain? Just your, have your penguins jumped off the iceberg. Like all of them are gone and there's all kinds of room for penguins because everybody left because you're too crazy. Oh man. Um, we talked about the penguins on the iceberg, didn't we? No, we haven't talked about the penguins on the
iceberg. Oh Lord. We're going to put that on the, for the next episode. Hold on. No, talk about it now. You already mentioned it. Nope. Too much. Too much. It's penguins on the iceberg. We'll do it. Um, can we talk about how to avoid decision fatigue? Well, we can. Yes. How do you want to avoid it? Do you want to talk about the rest of the signs first? Oh sure. Irritability of being overwhelmed, regret and dissatisfaction. I have a list for something. I can't even read what's on
the computer. I just know what she's trying to say. Me either. I haven't had a drink of wine in a very long time and I've had like almost a whole bottle. Like I think I have like two glasses left and I am a little tipsy. We had wine when we recorded last week. I know, but it didn't drink that much. No, you didn't. I didn't know you had more than that before I got here. I had like one glass, but I've been filling
them up tall. It looks like I've only had two or three glasses. But yeah, anyways. Okay. So, and physical discomfort. So anyways, basically tension headaches, stress, being tired when you go to bed. Everything that I literally have, feeling overwhelmed. Oh my God. These are you and me. Yes. I constantly agree. Like we could just like mix all of our issues together and put them right here and it would be called decision fatigue. I agree. I think the overwhelmed is you sometimes. Yeah. Not
always though. Sometimes you're like, oh, I'm good. And I get overwhelmed a lot, but I feel like if you get overwhelmed, you're like, it's not good. It's like, it's like, I'm overwhelmed. You cry. I do. Yeah. Okay. So tell me, tell me how do we prevent it? Is that you said prevent it, right? How to avoid it. Oh, avoid it. Yeah. Or plan daily decisions the night before, which there's only so many of those. That's still making decisions. Yeah. I mean, there's only so many things that you
can do. Your outfit. Your outfit, planning your lunch, planning your lunch hour maybe and planning, you know, and I do this and I've talked about it before, but blocking off time during the day for designated tasks. So I make sure that those get done. And then I don't have to make a decision about what I'm doing in that moment because I already have a calendar reminder, you know, out there. I try to do that too, but then people are like, oh no, we need to have a meeting during
that time. And I'm like, well, I have something I can't be like, so I have recently had this situation where somebody's like, we need to have a meeting during that time. And I have like something else planned for that time. And I'm like, I cannot change this. I'm not changing this because you need to meet at this time. We need to like, I, I do this all the time. I changed my schedule for everybody else. And then I'm overwhelmed and I need it to be, and I, I need it to not be
that way. Well, yeah. And it's one of those things where it goes back to what is that saying? A lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on mine. Exactly. Yeah. 100%. There was a guy that we used to work with us who was the best and I wish he came back. His name was Josh and he had that stuck on his cubicle at work. And yes, that is the best 100%. So what else? Do the most important things first, which I mean, you and I have been through this when we talked
about. Procrastination. Yeah. Productive procrastination because sometimes the most important tasks are the most tedious and. Well, what do you do when everything's the most important? Yeah. I mean, that's fair as well. That happens to me a lot because I work in healthcare. Yeah. It's like, which person do you want to die today? It's not, that's not, that's not really, but you know what I mean? Stop making decisions and start making commitments. How do you do that? How does
that help? How does that happen? Okay. Go to the next one. The next one is if you have to, if you have to make good decisions later in the day, then eat something. I mean, I'm not going to say that later in the day, then eat something first. Yeah. So you're not hangry, right? Yeah. Is that what they're, I mean, I'm just assuming that's why. Just feeding, you're feeding your brain and giving yourself more willpower essentially. Yeah. I mean, so do you think that there's a difference
between decision fatigue and indecisiveness? Yeah. I think for my personal opinion is indecisiveness is laziness. You don't want to have to deal with it. And so you just let it live. But so when you were to think about somebody else, so watching me or because I do this a lot and I'll be like indecisive on things, especially like food and stuff. Do you think that, and maybe it's decision
fatigue, but on from the outside, does it look like I'm lazy because I'm being indecisive? No. And the only reason why I can say that for you is because I know that you do your due diligence on things based on other areas of our friendship, including like equipment buying for this podcast. I let you take as much time as you needed and didn't rush you because I knew that you were doing the research and you were going to make sure that we got the thing that was going to work best
for us. So no, I think if I didn't know you, maybe, but I do know you. And I know. Yeah. That's why I have like, and normally, but that's something that people need to think about is don't look at other people think that if you think that because they're being indecisive that they're lazy or, I don't know. When I think of somebody being indecisive, I don't necessarily think lazy. I think it's more like, um, some this, this article over here saying that people have like low
self-confidence. I don't think I have low self-confidence. Sometimes I, I, you know what? That's true. So low self-confidence. Sometimes I do, if I don't have like the research in that, I, I can put that back into the food thing. I'll be, I don't have self-confidence in a new place because I haven't had the food yet, but normally it's just because I can't make a decision. It's because it might be a mix. It might be a mix of the two. Yeah. I've just been like, I don't,
well, I honestly don't care what I eat. So the last one is simplify and basically saying if, you know, whatever it is, is not necessarily important to you, then eliminate it from your life. So you could be doing something still consistently that like choosing clothes. So stop, stop, eliminate choosing clothes every day and wearing a uniform while you see jobs.
I mean, I would say that, but I mean, it could even come down to like, for example, for us supper club, there are certain people that don't go to supper club anymore and then they don't go because it's not important to them. And so they've eliminated it from their life. That's, I mean, that's how I see it. Yeah. Other things have become more important. And it may not necessarily be important. I don't mean that in a negative way at all.
Like we, as human beings, they have prioritized other things. Yes. They have to like babies and marriages, whatever. Yeah, absolutely. And so I mean that they have taken that decision out of their life. They're just, they're not going. That is the decision now. It's not whether or not, should I go, should I not go, you know, once a month, you know, it's, I, yeah. What? Oh, nothing. Oh, nothing. I mean, it's the truth though, that the decision has been made. They're not going.
Right, right. Exactly. And if that's, you know, what they needed to do for themselves, then completely understand it. Right. Exactly. I mean, life happens and you got to do what's best for you. Yeah. But just make sure that the decision isn't going to bite you in the butt later. But that's, that's my thing. And I think that's another reason for my decision fatigue is because
I'm like, if I make this decision today to not do this. So for instance, if I were to say, okay, so say you invited me somewhere last week, the week before, and I was like, I've got something else. I can't go, I can't go. People stop inviting you. But if you keep saying no, a hundred thousand, which I don't think necessarily is the best way to go. If you keep saying no, if you have a, like a legit reason, like, Hey, I'm sorry, I have plans like, or I would love to come next. I usually try
to sell. I'm so sorry. I've had these plans or whatever. I would love, thank you so much for the invite. I would love to come again. If somebody's just like, no, I can't come. I have plans, but like literally don't keep me. I know I've said no for the past two or three times, but like, don't not invite me the next time. I hate that. I completely went through that with Jessica at one
point, like several, several years ago now. But I, you know, spent a lot of time with Melanie because we lived, you know, in buildings right next to each other and it was, you know, convenient, but we also have a lot of fun together. And so we spent a lot of time together and it came down to, you know, me not getting invited to something eventually to be like, what the fuck Jess? And
she was like, you're not going to come anyways. And it really, like, it made me put things into perspective and I had to think about the decisions that I was making and I didn't realize how it was
affecting other people. Well, that's exactly. Yes. And that's why I'm always like, no, like when I do this is if I say no to this, if I don't go to supper club, are they going to be like, you know, oh, I'm going to come to supper club or yeah, it's not supper club is just an example, but like really it's like, anytime you do anything, people are, if, especially if you miss multiple chances to go, they're going to be like, well, she doesn't want to hang out with us. Yeah. So let's not invite
her anymore. Yeah. And which is completely understandable. I think the only, you know, ask that I, you know, would have had in that moment is like to have a conversation instead of just like, you know, not sending the invite anymore, but I completely understood why. Right. Well, but like what kind of conversation would you think that somebody would need to have? Like, I mean, I think it would have been fair to be like, Hey, just so you know, like folks don't really want to invite
you anymore. Cause you always say no. Really? You would want somebody to have that conversation with you? Yeah. Why not? I would never do that. I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't be like, Hey, people aren't inviting you. Cause you always say no. Like I would just be like, obviously figure, figure it out. Like, then you're assuming that they know and they understand why. Yeah. But like I, that it's not my, if I were to be like, if somebody were to be like, Hey, why didn't I get
invited? I'd be like, well, because I didn't think you were going to come. If it were something that I could do the inviting to for something that I was able to invite, like sometimes I get invited to things and I'm not allowed to invite somebody to that thing. But like, if other people, if you're not getting invited to somebody else's things, I don't know. That's not, that's nothing to do with me and that person. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was more so in reference to like group things.
Right. Well, I think it depends on how close you are with somebody too. Like, yeah, I don't know. I would never go to like the person we're talking about, but the supper club and be like, Hey, um, by the way, nobody wants to invite you into anything because you don't show up to supper club. You know what I mean? No, I get it. I'm, but I mean, I'm, that's why I'm like Jessica and I were close enough to have that conversation. Right. I'm not saying that she was in the wrong in any
capacity. Like I'm saying, I wish that it had like happened differently, but I mean, it remedied itself very quickly. I learned, I had to show the fuck up and not be such an asshole. Like, only hang out with Melanie. Well, yeah. I mean, like if you want to have friends, you need to hang out with your friends, you know, that's, that's how it goes though. Yeah. Don't, yeah. Don't be, I don't know. You can, you can be friends with Melanie too though. And just like
hang out with Melanie, but like, you know, or hang out with everybody. And I hate that. That sucks. It's like decisions, decisions, decisions. Yeah. Lord have mercy. So what do you got, what do you got? What kind of decisions do you guys make on a daily basis? Email us and let us know. Give us some examples and tell us the decisions that you hate making or love making. Who knows? Whichever one you can find us on Instagram at thick AF podcast podcast podcast at gmail.com. Wait,
no, that was that. That's the Gmail. I'm just kidding. I'm going to shut up and let you, I'm going to make, I'm going to make a decision here. Like Emily said, you can shoot us an email at thick AF podcast at gmail.com. Bye. Bye. Bye. ABCDEFG, I have to go. I don't know why it's so good.