Today on The Wild Line: A sweeping USDA plan to restructure the Forest Service, a major executive order from President Trump aimed at fast-tracking AI data center development on federal land, the House’s latest Interior budget bill, and a legal win for conservationists. Find the resources mentioned today and more at our website, thewildidea.com .
Jul 25, 2025•18 min
Josh Jackson didn’t set out to become a champion for the Bureau of Land Management. But after stumbling into BLM lands in the deserts of California, he found himself transformed, first by the landscape, and then by the history behind it. In this episode, Josh joins Bill and Anders to talk about The Enduring Wild, his new book exploring California’s public lands, and the path that took him from “drive-by desert” skeptic to devoted pilgrim. why the desert strips us bare, how the King Range helped ...
Jul 22, 2025•38 min•Ep. 19
In this wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Cristina Eisenberg shares her perspective on the growing crisis facing our forests and why meeting this moment will take more than science alone. As the opening speaker for the Ninth American Forest Congress , Cristina reflects on how this historic gathering signals a shift in how we think about forest stewardship—and why that shift depends on blending Western science with Indigenous knowledge and local wisdom. Together with Bill and Anders, she unpacks why...
Jul 15, 2025•51 min•Ep. 18
This week on The Wild Line: We’re back with a full roundup of what’s happening across all three branches of government, plus a reminder that history is written not just in laws, but in landscapes. We dive into the latest BLM approvals, two new Trump-era executive orders, a small act you can take to help save our National Park signs, and a whole lot more. Find the links and resources mentioned today on our website, thewildidea.com .
Jul 11, 2025•16 min
Conservation photographer Tony Bynum joins Bill and Anders for a wide-ranging conversation about photography, sovereignty, wild places, and what it means to tell the truth with an image. Tony's work isn’t just about capturing beauty; it’s about telling the full story of a place, pushing for protection, and reminding us what’s at stake. Today's conversation explores what makes an image meaningful, why Tony walked away from shooting for certain publications, and how photography can either glorify ...
Jul 08, 2025•44 min•Ep. 17
Bill and Anders cover the end of the budget reconciliation process which saw the public land sell-off removed, but many more major setbacks for public lands survived. The Forest Service took steps to loosen rules around following the National Environmental Policy Act, and in Montana they ceded management of 200,000 acres to the state through a new Good Neighbor Authority agreement. We track a lawsuit around the lands being used for the so-called Alligator Alcatraz. Learn more and find the resour...
Jul 04, 2025•15 min
In this bonus of The Wild Idea , we’re literally taking you to the Appalachian Trail. Anne Robinson joins us from Harpers Ferry, the symbolic halfway point of her 2,200-mile thru-hike, for a conversation about what happens when you step away from your desk and into the woods for months at a time. Anne recently left her job at Southern Environmental Law Center to take on the AT, and in this episode, she shares what she’s learning about land, history, community—and herself—along the way. Learn mor...
Jul 03, 2025•21 min
This week on The Wild Idea , we’re exploring the growing power of outdoor brands to influence public land policy. What happens when the companies that outfit our adventures decide to stand up for the places that make those adventures possible? We’re joined by Paul Hendricks , Executive Director of The Conservation Alliance , and Vince Mazzuca , Director of Marketing at Osprey , to talk about the role of the business community in conservation. Together, they offer a powerful look at how brands ar...
Jul 01, 2025•37 min•Ep. 16
Bill and Anders break down a big week for public lands. The Okefenokee Swamp is safe from mining, Arkansas banned large hog farms in the Buffalo River Watershed, and Senator Mike Lee’s latest land sell-off push has hit a snag. Major threats remain; the Trump administration moves to repeal the Roadless Rule, putting 58 million acres at risk. Plus, Senate updates, Forest Service rulemaking, and a tribute to Montana wilderness champion Pat Williams. Learn more and find the resources from today's ep...
Jun 27, 2025•17 min
Chris Wood - the godfather of the Roadless Rule and President and CEO of Trout Unlimited - joins the show to talk about how the Roadless Rule came to be, what it actually does, and why the Trump Administration’s move to undo it threatens some of the most ecologically and recreationally important backcountry we have. From fire mitigation myths to the politics of rulemaking, Wood offers a clear-eyed and hopeful reminder of what’s worth protecting, and how. Learn more and find the resources mention...
Jun 25, 2025•40 min
What does it really mean to share stewardship of public lands with tribal nations? In this episode, legal scholar Monte Mills, a leading expert on Federal Indian Law, tribal sovereignty, and Indigenous cultural protection, and public lands policy expert Martin Nie, whose work focuses on the governance of federal lands and collaborative management across tribal, state, and federal lines, unpack the complex, often misunderstood world of tribal co-management. This episode challenges assumptions, co...
Jun 24, 2025•50 min•Ep. 15
This week on The Wild Line, we’re tracking three major stories shaping the future of public lands and the communities that depend on them, including a new executive order aimed at “commonsense” wildfire prevention and response. Learn more and find the links and resources from today's episode at our website, thewildidea.com.
Jun 20, 2025•14 min
Tracy Stone-Manning has spent her career at the heart of public lands policy—from field offices and statehouses to the director’s chair at the Bureau of Land Management. Now, as president of The Wilderness Society, she’s carrying that fight forward with a deep belief in collaboration, connection, and the promise our public lands represent. In this episode, she joins Bill and Anders for a wide-ranging conversation about what’s really happening inside our land management agencies, what the public ...
Jun 17, 2025•34 min•Ep. 14
This week on The Wild Line , we dive into the latest updates from the Department of Justice, look at Senate drafts impacting public lands and forests, and talk about youth efforts on behalf of Bigfoot, as well as a handful of other important topics. It's been a big week for wilderness spaces—here's what you may have missed. Find out more about today's episode and links we mentioned on the show at our website, thewildidea.com .
Jun 13, 2025•16 min
Randy Newberg is one of the most trusted and strategic voices in the sportsman conservation world, and he’s got stories to prove it. In this episode, Randy joins Bill and Anders for a wide-ranging, funny, and deeply personal conversation that moves from his childhood hunting on public lands in northern Minnesota to testifying before Congress and building a media platform to fight for the places that fed and shaped him. Learn more about Randy and find links to the resources mentioned today at our...
Jun 10, 2025•44 min•Ep. 13
This week on The Wild Line , Senators Lee and Daines revive dangerous land sell-off efforts, the DOI axes key science protections, and Alaska faces a new wave of oil and gas drilling, because apparently, recess doesn’t mean rest for public lands. Learn more and find the links and resources from today's episode at our website, thewildidea.com .
Jun 06, 2025•11 min
What do frozen frogs, machine learning, roadkill, and wilderness ethics have in common? According to evolutionary ecologist Dr. Andis Arietta…everything. In this wide-ranging and mind-expanding conversation, Andis joins us to explore the deep connections between ecology, evolution, climate change, and how (and whether) we manage wild places. Find the links and resources mentioned in today's conversation and learn more about Andis by visiting our website, thewildidea.com...
Jun 03, 2025•52 min•Ep. 12
This week on The Wild Line , despite Congress being on recess, the hits keep coming for public lands, tribal sovereignty, and environmental protections. Find the links and resources mentioned in today's episode on our website, thewildidea.com
May 30, 2025•12 min
In this bonus episode of The Wild Idea , we sit down with Jon Jarvis , the 18th Director of the National Park Service, for a wide-ranging and urgent conversation about the future of America’s public lands. Drawing on his 40-year career in the Park Service—from backcountry Alaska to the corridors of D.C.—Jarvis offers a sobering look at current threats, including budget slashing, forced retirements, and what he calls a calculated push to privatize the parks. Learn more and find the links and reso...
May 29, 2025•35 min
What does it take to protect one of the most visited, and most threatened, wilderness areas in America? Executive Director of Save the Boundary Waters , Ingrid Lyons , joins us to talk about the fight to defend Minnesota’s beloved Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness from dangerous copper mining proposals and the broader movement to reinvigorate wilderness advocacy nationwide. Learn more about the topics discussed in today's episode and connect with Ingrid on our website, thewildidea.com...
May 27, 2025•45 min•Ep. 11
This week on The Wild Line, Anders and Bill break down a big development in the ongoing budget reconciliation battle, and what it means for public lands. We dive into the House Reconciliation Bill, the Trump administration’s $5 billion cut to the Department of the Interior’s budget, and more. Find the links and resources mentioned in today's episode on our website, thewildidea.com
May 23, 2025•7 min
It’s not every day a sitting U.S. Senator joins us to talk about the places that shaped him. In this special bonus episode, Senator Tim Kaine reflects on his journey across Virginia—on foot, by bike, and by kayak—and how that experience shapes his approach to conservation, policy, and legacy. See the notes from today's episode and learn more by visiting our website, thewildidea.com
May 22, 2025•18 min
What happens when you try to bring back a mythic, misunderstood, cold-loving carnivore that most people don't even know is real? You get one of the most fascinating conservation stories in the American West. In this episode, Kaitie Schneider of Defenders of Wildlife joins us to talk about the long-awaited reintroduction of Gulo gulo , the wolverine, to Colorado. Learn more and connect with Kaitie by visiting our website, thewildidea.com...
May 20, 2025•43 min•Ep. 10
Welcome to the very first edition of The Wild Line, a new weekly series from The Wild Idea podcast. This show is for all of you who’ve asked to stay informed about what’s happening with our public lands, from Washington, D.C. to your own backyard. Each Friday, we’ll bring you the big stories shaping the future of our wild places, with sharp commentary, context, and some fire. This week, we’re starting with some catch-up after a whirlwind month on the public lands front. We cover promising legisl...
May 16, 2025•16 min
In this episode of The Wild Idea , we speak with José González, founder of Latino Outdoors and co-founder of The Outdoorist Oath , about identity, community, and redefining what it means to belong in wild spaces. José shares his personal journey from rural Mexico to national conservation leadership, and why the question isn’t just how to get more people outside, but why it matters who gets to belong there. Learn more and connect with José by visiting our website, thewildidea.com...
May 13, 2025•52 min•Ep. 9
Today we are in conversation with David Gessner, the bestselling author of multiple books including his most recent release, The Book of Flaco . We talk about his exploration of the American West both on the page and through his own travels, along with the lasting legacy of Theodore Roosevelt and the paradox of land management in the United States. Connect with David and learn more about this conversation at our website, thewildidea.com...
May 06, 2025•45 min•Ep. 8
Today we're so excited to welcome Grizzly Bear Management Specialist (retired) Tim Manley to The Wild Idea podcast! In our conversation today, we talk about Tim's pioneering work capturing Grizzly behavior in the wild, the evolution of the Grizzly - Human relationship and interactions, and how human behavior is impacting Grizzly habitat and vice versa. Learn more about Tim and find the links and resources mentioned in today's episode on our website ....
Apr 29, 2025•45 min•Ep. 7
Today we are excited to be in conversation with J. Drew Lanham, an ecologist, poet, and professor. We dive into questions of wilderness, who determines the authenticity of an outdoor experience, how Black and Brown people are showing up outside, what the evolving government actions could mean for our common access to wild spaces, and so much more. Connect with Drew and see the links and resources mentioned in today's episode on our website ....
Apr 22, 2025•50 min•Ep. 6
Today we're welcoming forest ecologist Greg Aplet as we dive into one of the most common points of interest when it comes to the wilderness today: forest fires and how they impact spaces both wild and human. We talk with Greg about legislation and governmental actions, the costs and benefits of allowing fires to burn, the after-effects of the Smoky the Bear campaign, and how we can further the conversation between everyone impacted by logging, forest fires, and the ecology of the wilderness. Con...
Apr 15, 2025•46 min•Ep. 5
In the midst of the current administration's efforts to target public lands for privatization, we invited Susan Jane Brown—who we'll call SJ throughout today's show—to talk about what's happening right now and what it means for all of us, in this bonus episode where we're diving deep into the current threats facing the U.S. Forest Service. After setting the stage with a framing of the government institutions that protect and caretake our public lands, we get into conversation with SJ about the e...
Apr 10, 2025•36 min