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there come back down? Oh no, not after I read about our other historical figures, the brothers Grim, Staying up here is the only thing keeping me safe from fairytale witches. B It's easy to stay away from fairytale witches. Just don't eat their candy houses. Oh with my sweet tooth. You know I can't resist a candy house. Golly, it's gonna take the whole theme song to get you down from there. Hit it, Eric, bloody, you know about the

gates this story. The game is on. To get some energy and buckle up your brain, because it's sign to play the most podcast, because it's time to pass. Who Knows Live from Tom Baland or so called SoCal Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was, the history clues show that gives contestants the chance to win mega prizes and podcast glory. I'm your announcer, be the co host with the co most and here's your host, the man who is young in heart but old of brain. It's Elliot Kaylin. Thank

you be and welcome everyone to the Who Was? Podcast. You know this show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests, silly games, and a pet elephant. Her name is Geraldine. Her contestants were sent who Was books about two great figures from history. Now they're here to show off their knowledge and the hopes of winning fantastic prizes. Probably today we're talking about the Ripe Brothers and the Brothers Grim. That's right, it's our special Brother's Day episode. I don't

think Brother's Day is an actual holiday. Be well it is now Happy Brother's Day everybody, Okay, for he's a jolly good brother, He's a jolly good bray. Why don't you know what? Why don't we just meet our contestants about that? All right? Okay? Well, first up, we have oz Oz. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Cozy uh, I'm ten years old and I like to draw, and you like to draw, And we hear you have a really cool joke to share with us. Will you please

share your joke? What do you cost us pasta? You call it impasta? Very nice? Okay? And we also have Trip Trip. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Trip. A fun fact about me is I really love football, and I have multiple jokes I don't want to share. Oh okay, Well, um, let's hear we want to give us two Yeah, okay, I can do that. What if you're American when you go in the bathroom and you're American when you come out? What are you when you're

in the bathroom? I don't know what? What are you European? Oh? Nice? All right? And what's your second joke? Did you hear about the person who invented the knock knock joke? He won a Nobel prize? Very nice? Very nice. I love that our contestants have come on and they're already funnier than we are. I know, Mozzie, you said that you like to draw. What kind of thing do you like to draw? The most just curious humans? All right, there's a lot of them around it's easy to find one

to draw and Trip. You said you like football. Do you like to play it or just to watch it or both? In what position do you like to play? I used to really like running back second find small spaces. Then I got more into wide receiver. Then I got really good at throwing, and I went to quarterback. Now I'm in safety, wide receiver, quarterback, and running back. So you're the whole team. They just need you on the fields. Well,

because Elliott, you also need a mascot. You need someone to dress up in a costume and cheer the month exactly. That's the other person on the team. Yeah, you know, I used to play football myself, but I wasn't good enough to be the quarterback, so I played the one fifth back. I'm just trying to be as funny as our contestants. All right, thank you both for joining us. We're very excited to have you here. And thank you also to Eric, our musician, for providing that lovely live

Meet the Contestants music. Today's episode is especially exciting. That's right, Trip, Do you happen to have the same teacher? Yes, actually the homeroom teacher and all periods and all periods and that teacher's name would be Mr Bruno. Mr Bruno, you're here too, Thank you so much for joining us again here. So, Mr Bruno, how does your class celebrate Brother's Day? Well,

it's funny. This week we had twin Days. However, all the kids were dressed up like twins, and it's exciting to hear that you're celebrating real days in class as opposed to Brother's Day, which be again, I have to break it to your Brother's Day is not a not a real holiday. It's not a real day that people celebrate. It should be. So that's who is. Now let's find out who was. Orville and will were right with four

fast facts, Fast guys. Wilbur Right lived from eighteen sixty seven to nineteen fifteen and Orville Right live from eighteen seventy to nine eight. They invented the airplane in nineteen o three, and we're the first people to ever fly in one. They worked together their whole lives. Wilbur came up with the ideas, and Orville would build them. Fast guys, Okay, I have to ask art contestants, because you know it's Brother's Day. Do you have siblings? Well, I have my

sister here? Oh, your sisters there? Yes? Hello? How many? Wait? So how many sisters do you have? All together? Four? And one brother and one brother so you can celebrate this not real holiday of Brother's Day. I don't celebrate it. Thank you. Good. Yes, it's not real. And the sister that's sitting here with me is my favorite. Oh that's so nice to hear. Wow. And um, Osie, what about you?

Do you have any siblings? I have a sister. If you and your sister were going to work together to invent something, what do you think you might invent together? What would we invent? Wait, Osie, is your sister there too? Maybe it's sister's Day. Maybe it's sister's Day. Make a TV show? Oh great, well you're already halfway there because you're a great joke writer. Well, thank you both. We're very excited to have you today. I think now it's time to move on to our first game. It's called

Backpack from the Past. From the past Baby. For this game, we managed to get our hands on the right brothers actual backpack. They were very close and they are the same backpack. We're going to pull some objects out of it and describe them to you. Then you'll tell us why it's important in the life of the Right Brothers. And since this is our first round, every question will be worth one point. Mosie. The first item is going to be for you, b Please pull it out of

that backpack. Hey, it's a hockey stick. I don't think the Wright brothers played for the Philadelphia Flyers, so why would they have this hockey stick. It's because I'm pretty sure Jacob got hit by a hockey stick and he became depressed. It's that's right that it was Wilbur that that hit for the hockey stick. But I think we've gotten our the Grim brothers mixed up with the Right brothers. But that's okay. Who hasn't made that mistake in his quiz history? Kids Quiz Show, I do that all the time.

That's true. But Wilbur when he was young, he was accidentally hit with a hockey stick while playing. The injuries he received forced him to leave school and give up his dreams of being a teacher. But don't worry, he managed to build a career as a successful plane inventor. The next item is for Trip. Oh, it's a bicycle bell. Why is that in the backpack? Trip? Why is it in there? Uh? That is why the bicycle bell is in there is because when they used to make bicycles

before they made planes. That's right, exactly. The Rape brothers owned a bicycle shop and made bis instead of planes. And they even used what they learned about steering bicycles to help them figure out how to steer a plane. But too bad they didn't put that little bell on the plane though. That would have been fun. Okay, OZI, you're turned again, all right, I bet this one will be very exciting. Oh it's just a long, thin cardboard box. It's kind of beat up to like someone was twisting it.

Why would the Rape brothers have this Because they like to make stuff and they made boxes. It's a good guess it's not quite what we're looking for. This was the box that inspired Wilbur to make a breakthrough in his airplane design. He picked up this box. When he twisted in his hands, it gave him the idea to have the pilot of the plane twist the plane's wings. It turns out ideas can come from anywhere. I'm going to pull out the last item from the backpack trip.

This one is for you. It's a hat, and the tag says made in France. What's this doing in the right Brothers backpack? It's on the tip of my brain like that happens to me a lot. To shake it off the tip of your brain. Get it get get it to the back of your brain where you can, you can pull it in. All right, that's okay. It's from when Wilbur demonstrated their plane in France and instantly

became an international superstar. He became so famous that copies of his hat became the latest fashion trend known as the Viba reed. You know there's a hat in France named after me? Really there is, Yes, it's called the b Ray good point. I shouldn't have asked. And that's the end of our first game from The Best Baby. Now let's fly on over to producer Jane for the scores. Thanks Elliott, and happy brother's day too. I would like to give a little shout out to my own brothers.

That would be Bugs, Bake Wheels, Boo boo and Moose. All right, I'd also like to tell you the score. I'll tied up one to one. Thank you, Jane. We have to go to a short break. But while we're doing that Be has a bonus question for our contestants to think about. During the break, the Right brothers realized that to design a working plane they had to solve three specific problems. When we come back, our contestants will get one bonus point for each of these problems they

can name, for a total of three points. So let's get to the break so we can get back to the game. Eric, please play us some airplane music overhead compartment. Welcome back to the WHOS podcast. Today we're learning all about the Ripe Brothers and the brothers Grim and now back to your host, Elliott Kaylin. Happy Brother's Day, Elliott, still not a real holiday v. Before the break, the scores were tied. Trip and Dosi both have one point each. But let's see if we can add to those scores

with our bonus question. Uh Be, can you remind me what was that bonus question again? Okay? Before the break, we asked the contestants that they could name three problems. The Rpe Brothers decided they had to solve to design a working plane. Okay, so Mosie is going to get a chance to answer first. Trip, would you please remove your headphones? Mosie, can you remember what were any of the three problems that the Ripe brothers decided they had to solve how to keep good plane flying, how to

make a working engine, and how to turn it. Yeah, that's right. Now, let's get tripped back in here. They needed a engine that would left. Uh wait, no, the wings needed have left and engines need to hold him up up and a light enough engine so it wouldn't fall. You got two of them right. They needed the wings that would lift them up, and they did an engine to push it forward. And the third one was they needed to figure out a way to steer and control

the machine and then when it was flying. But that was great, that was great. They had those three problems and they and it took them a lot longer to figure it out than it took you. That's for sure. That's true. And you know what I loved about all those answers because they were all the right answers, because they were the right brothers for the problems that they were looking for. You know, because because there because their names. That was hilarious, Thank you, thank you. But enough about

those brothers. Let's get right to finding out about our other subjects from history. Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm with four fast Facts pas Facts. Wilhelm Grimm lived from seventeen eighty six to eighteen fifty nine and Jacob Grimm lived from seventeen eighty five to eighteen sixty three. They collected and published traditional German fairy tales told by ordinary people. They were both university a philologist, which means the study of language in historical texts. The third edition of their fairy

tale book was a huge success. It was the diary of a wimpy kid of its time. So let's move on to our next game. It's something we call Once upon a Lie. The brothers Grammar best known for their books of fairy tales. So in this game, we'll tell you a fairy tale about them and you have to tell us if it's true or a lie. And since this is our second game, each question is worth two points, So get ready for some questions in fairy tale form. Trip Europe. First, take it away be once upon a Time.

Two brothers decided to collect all the magical stories in the world, so they booted up their computer connected to yield Internet and visited old German folk tales dot biz faults. They did have computers at the time. That's right, it's a lie. I appreciate your anger. Wow that we we tried to pull one over on you and you would not have it. That's a lie. They collected their fairy tales from ordinary people like maids, nanny's soldiers, even children.

Good stories can come from anywhere. In fact, your average old person has way more interesting stories than the lousy internet. Next time you want to go on the Internet, just go talked to an old person. Yeah, alright. This next question is for ozy. Once upon a time, two brothers decided to write the most magical book of all, a dictionary. But the dictionary grew larger and larger and longer and longer, and it wasn't finished for over a hundred years. Yep,

that's true. Jacob and Wilham tried to write the first German dictionary, but it took them sixteen years just to get part of the way through the letter B. In the end, they only made it up to the letter D. Other people eventually finished the dictionary in nineteen sixty, almost a century after both brothers had died. Okay, and the

next question is for trips. Once upon a time, two brave brothers were forced to leave their home by a wicked king when they refused to cross out the names of all the authors in the library and write the king's name so that it would look like the king wrote all the books faults. All right, that's a lie. The King of Hanover demanded every professor sign a loyalty oath to him. That's what he demanded. Yes, I studied that page for hours. Do you remember what Jacob and

Wilhelm did. Did they sign that loyalty oath? No? They would throw rocks in the professor's windows that didn't sign it. Can't get bonus points. No, No monus points were thank you for helping tell the story. Jacob and Wilhelm. They took a stand for political freedom and refused to sign that loyalty oath. So they were exiled from Hanover. Rocks were thrown at them, they were kicked out of town. But it made them heroes to people around the world. Okay,

and this last question is for Oz. Once upon a time there was a man named Jacob who loved footnotes, which are little messages at the bottom of the page that explained something in the book. After a long day of footnoting, his newest book, he laid down for a pleasant slum, but when he awoke, he discovered that all of his footnotes had disappeared, stolen by his wicked brother. This is true. Jacob and Wilhelm disagreed about who their

fairy tale books were for. Jacob wanted them to be for scholars who loved having words explained to them, but ville Ham wanted them to be for kids who just wanted good stories. And in the end, ville Ham one based on the ancient law kids rule grown ups. True true words were never spoken. And that's the end of Once upon a Lie, and we all lived happily ever after? Or did we? Let's find out. Producer Jane, what are our Scots who at six points turned past seven? Thank you, Jane.

I'm now very excited to announce we have some very special guests. The fairytale fanatics, the determined Germans, the brothers from another fairy godmother, the Grim's courtesy of the who was he was? You want to make in the first is the gluten talk? I am Jacob Grim. Well, welcome to the show, Jacob. But where's your brother Wilhelm? Doctor? If we are not talking right now? Oh that's terrible. Why not you work together so well on your fairy

tale books. I know, but we're writing the first ever German dictionary and somehow researching the meaning and history of every single chairman Verde. It isn't as fun as listening to stories about the witches and gnomes. Who would have guessed that. So, Jacob, what has Wilhelm been doing that's getting on your nerves? Oh my god, fair to I begin. He keeps borrowing my books and closing to the door too loudly, and he's taking forever business work. You know.

He holds his fingers close to me, and he keeps saying I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you, which is technically true, he is not touching me, but still it's so annoying. You know what, the maybe we should have called the right brothers. They really loved each other. Oh no, no, no, I am in this for the drama. I love my bras too in some place. That's what makes it difficult to work with him, because he's so important to me that I want everything we do together

to be perfect. Oh that's so sweet. Being a brother sounds hard. Happy Brother's Day, by the way, I appreciate that you're welcome. It's not a real holiday. You know, working together is also hard for these two Italian brothers. I know, the Mario brothers. You say collect Italian folk tales. Oh no, no, they're plumbers who save a princess from a mean turtle king in a mushroom world. This sounds like a fairy tale we need for the book. You

must tell it to me. Well, once upon a time there was a magical land called Nintendo, where two brothers of very heights had to work together with Mario educational value, Luigi, why don't we go to a short breaking. If we'll get to our final round, we'll find out who will be our winner. Eric, please play us some footnote music. Please mustache pages, don't wear shoes. You know Sally? Who

was there? Marie Curie? You may remember me from winning multiple Nobel prizes, or perhaps from my episode of the who wast podcast where I played myself. I wanted to take a moment to read one of my favorite reviews about the Who Was podcasts. This is from Shaken Bay and it reads loved this. Me and my little sister love this show more. Please, our faith is Ariet Toman. If you want to hear your review right on the air.

Make sure to subscribe, like and review to the OAS podcasts in the I had to write you up or wherever you get your podcasts should let's day as we're back on the Hula podcast. When we least left up, OZI had six points and Trip had seven points. Now back to your host, Ellie Kalin, Thank you be and now it's time for our final game of the game,

Converge of Greatness. In this multiple choice game, we'll explore how the lives of the Wright brothers and the brothers Grim overlap are similar to each other or converge And because we're in the third round, each question is worth three enormous points. Are you ready? The first question is for oz B take it away. The brothers Grim put out multiple books, but the Wright brothers also dabbled in publishing. Their first business together was a print shop. What did

they print? Was it a wanted posters for gun slingers? Be their own newspaper as well as a newspaper for Dayton, Ohio's black community. Or see the first phone book which was only one page long and said nobody has a phone yet Ya ding Nang's that's right. The answer is v. As teenagers Boordville, will were put out a weekly newspaper and a daily newspaper, and they helped their high school friends. The poet Paul Dunbar put out a paper for Dayton's

black community. You know, what do you think if they had stuck with printing, we'd be flying today in paper airplanes. Wow. History's mystery. Yeah, to think of how different life would have been. Okay, the next question is for trip Flying their plane in France made the Right brothers famous, but France also had a big impact on the lives of the brothers Grimm. Was it because A They were inspired to collect fairy tales after hearing a story about a

magic Beckett. B they were inspired to preserve German culture after the French army took over their village. Or see they were inspired to eat nothing but hot dogs after they first tasted frenches mustard. Uh, yes it was b. That's right. Napoleon soldiers invaded the Grimm's village of Castle in eighteen o six and they stayed there for seven years. It was a very difficult and dangerous time for the

people of Castle. Luckily, the Grimms like to stay inside and read books all day, so that kept him out of trouble Mosy. This next question is for you. The brothers Grim relied on many other people to share fairy tales with them. The right brothers also couldn't have built their airplane all on their own. How did they get help from others? Did they A asked the Smithsonian and the Weather Service for advice on their experiments? Be compared

notes with other inventors working on developing flying machines. See I lie, they did it all on their own with no help from anyone. Or D they did both A and B but not SID. That's right. The answer is D. They got information government offices, and they were in contact with other inventors who are also working on flying machines. They never could have invented the airplane if they tried to do it all on their own and refuse to let anybody help them. It is very hard to invent

new things. And now our final question goes to Tripp. Wilbur Wright was a star student, but Orville Wright hated school. Similarly, when Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm were both professors at the University of Hanover, Vilhelm was a popular teacher, but students did not like Jacob. Why not? Was it because A he didn't let students ask questions, b he gave too much homework? Or see, whenever a student asked, can I go to the bathroom? Jacob would reply I don't know,

can you and laugh at them? Hey, that's right. The answer is a Jacob refused to let his students ask questions in class. They just had to sit there and listen to him talk on and on forever, stick to the fairytale collecting business. Jacob teaching was not for you. That sound means it's the end of the game, which means it's almost the end of the show. But first, while we wait for producer Jane to finish telling the points,

I've got some questions for the contestants. First, I want to ask Mr Bruno, do you let your students ask questions in class all the time? Okay, better teacher than Jacob Graham. Great history will look kindly on you for letting them ask questions. That's fantastic. Yeah, very anti Socratic method that yeah, it's him and Socrates did not see eye to eye. Also, they couldn't look at each other.

They lived thousands of years apart. Now I'd like to ask you, contestants, what's something that you were surprised to learn about the Right Brothers or the brothers Grim Trip. Is there anything that jumped out at you or that really surprised yours particularly interesting to you about either of our brothers? To be honest, uh, I was very fascinated on how they could stay like six hours a day before school. I could barely study thirty minutes on these people.

So you were amazed at how much they study compared to how much you can study. Yes, wow, that's fair. But maybe they're an example for you to try to live up to if you want to. Possibly, and Oz, is there anything that when you were reading about the Right Brothers or Brothers Grim that really either surprised you or that really stuck with you, something that you found really memorable? They created the airplane, That's true. That's it,

To be honest. They didn't do too much else besides making and flying airplanes, but that's all you gotta do. They found the thing that was really exciting to them and they did it and nobody had ever done it before. It's quality, not quantity, Elliott, exactly. Not everyone has to be a Thomas Edison making lots of inventions. You make one invention that's big enough, people will love you and they'll buy hats that look like your hat. Mr Berno, is there anything that that really jumped out to you

about either the Right Brothers or the brothers Graham. I was amazed at how they used the bicycles to help them invent their plane, and that they charged six for a bicycle way back then. Must have been a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, that'd be a great deal for a bicycle. Now, thank you so much for your answers. Now Here, it is time for the exciting conclusion of our special Mother's Day episode. It's not real. Well listen, Elliott got on board Trip. You'll get there eventually. You'll

get there somewhere. I was against Brother's Day two. You'll you'll feel it. You'll get there eventually. Trip better feel it because Trip one with thirteen points, Trip is our winner today. Great job Trip, and great job Ozzie. You've both played fantastically a trip as our winner. You have ten seconds for shoutouts. Who would you like to thank? I would like to thank my family. I would like to thank my mom and my dad and essentially and my sister, and I also would like to thank my

friend group. Thank you all. I'm saying thank you as a member of your friend group. Yeah, be was one of the friends that you were thanking. I assume right, Yeah, I guess our winner and their library of choice where we're receiving a selection of Who Was books, and I'm going to give my own shout outs to interim Zach Jane Kennie, Eric Chris Ferry for being our Jacob Grimm and to be and a big thank you to both of our contestants. Thank you so much to you at

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