573 Thunderbolts*

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with Ms. Eyes in the His House.

Because Nick Mason. Excuse me? That's what you wanted me to say and I'm happy to say it. That's how you like to be intro. That's not true, actually. Really? You didn't enjoy that just a little bit? It was pretty. Because you didn't put your hands up in the air. It was pretty urban and street, wasn't it? Which is what I'm exactly like. Exactly. Yeah.

Anyway, let's move on really quickly. Nice day for it, don't you think? It's a lovely day. It's a wonderful time to record. It's about 2 p.m. Yep. A real afternoon delight, this podcast. Absolutely. Let me tell you this, Mason. It's a big show. It is a big show. We're doing Thunderbolts Asterix. We're going to be reviewing that. But there are time codes below if you want to jump directly to that. Or maybe you're thinking you want to hear the news of the week.

That's also time-coded. Rob Collings, who edits this, he makes it happen. What if I'm one of those rare birds that wants to listen to both the news of the week and listen to fun? I mean, yeah, you'll have to jump around using the time code. What if I want to hear Thunderbolts review first? Yeah, you can do that. Definitely. Okay, what if I want to hear some news? I'm going to stop you there, Mason. Thunderbolts review, go on. You can't do it.

Really? No. What am I, restrict the number of jumping around? No, I mean, you can't. You just won't do that. No, I'm not going to do that. Absolutely, no. You're not going to listen to this at all. No, I'm absolutely not going to listen to this at all. Why would I? I'm here. I'm here for it. Agreed. And I get to hear all the bonus content, i.e. the stuff that gets cut out because it's not doing very well, i.e. this bit.

Listeners out there, they're not going to hear this, are they? They don't know this. They're not going to hear this gold. They don't even know this happens. Yeah. Anyways, we're going to talk about a couple of DC projects potentially in trouble, including Sergeant Rock and also the Clayface movie. We've got trailers for Now You Three Me, The Smashing Machine, and Weapons. Weapons. We're going to talk about also a few MCU related things, including...

Jeremy Renner not returning for Hawkeye season 2, but maybe that's happening regardless. And Ryan Reynolds is putting his sticky fingers in a Deadpool movie with X-Men potentially. Is he? Potentially. Sticky Wrexham fingers. Yeah. He's eaten all that footy scram. Is that a big deal? You're familiar with the concept of scram? What's scram? Is that like? It's just food, food you eat at the football. Oh, so it's like whatever you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I imagine it's not like a trail meet.

No, like a curry at the football. What? This is UK football. Okay, I guess I have that here. I'm on the footy tonight, actually. Do you want to come? No. Who's playing? Dunno. You don't know? No, it's Collingwood, Geelong. Okay, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that a famous rivalry? I feel like it's not. Mason, let me tell you something. There's a lot of rivalries in sport. So, the DCU, it might be in trouble.

This is by THR, you know. They're saying that the Sergeant Rock movie is no longer moving forward. Who's Sergeant Rock, Mason? He's a World War II guy. Yeah. Sometimes Superman meets him. Sometimes. He's one of those guys that sometimes they'll go back in time and they'll meet him. World Wars 2, guys.

He's always in the trenches. And sometimes, I believe continuity-wise, sometimes he was the last man to be killed in World War II, like the blast bullet fired killed him. Oh, okay. But then sometimes he's just still alive. Depends on the continuity. For people who don't know, about every five to ten years. they say like reboots their entire continuity so sometimes

Sometimes he's alive. Superman visits him often. What was that? Superman Up in the Sky went and visited him recently. Oh, yeah, that's right. I thought that knew, but I read that recently again with my son. You were going to say that did happen. That did happen. Wow, that's beautiful. That just happened.

So, Luca Guadagnino... How do you spell this? I say Guadagnino. Guadagnino. He was apparently going to direct this with Daniel Craig initially. They didn't come to an agreement. Daniel Craig said, I won't be doing...

stepped away, then Colin Farrell looked like was going to do it. Huh. But now it's looking like it might not happen at all. It would still happen, but nobody's doing it. So it's Luca Quattano, you know, directing. Because it really happened. Because it, yeah. Yeah. Here's the synopsis, if it happens. And it will. Although it has a World War Two setting the story is said to involve Rock teaming up with a French female resistance fighter brackets are there any other kind?

Yes. I think so, yeah. To find the mystical spear of destiny, the spear used to stab Jesus Christ during this crucifixion. And in law is said to have supernatural properties before the Nazis get their hands on it. I don't think they should get their hands on it. Because they're going to be stabbing people. You could use a regular spear. You don't need to use a magic spear that stabs Jesus.

That's probably true. But the Nazis, they do want a weapon that is as powerful as that gun that Indiana Jones has in the last crusade that can shoot through like seven dudes. That's true. They feel the spear of destiny probably has equal power. and they're probably right was the Spirit of Destiny in the last Indiana Jones movie sort of and it was a fake one

Remember they had to recover the spear on the train or something? Oh, yeah, it might have been. It's in Wolfenstein. Yes. Not the... I was going to say the old ones. Like the old Wolfenstein 3D, one of the expansion packs. Gotta get that Spear of Destiny. But you didn't get to use it. But what's the point? Yeah, exactly. Right?

Unbelievable. I should have had one of those and then, you know, there's a mod where you can kill Homer Simpson with it. Why didn't... Yeah, exactly. Why... Is that why GTA's... Dole, he would say. Oh, yes. As he's being impaled by the Spear of Destiny. Is that why they delayed GTA 6? Marge!

Ah, yeah, it is, yeah. That's because that game from that long ago and you couldn't stab Homer Simpson. Yeah, that's great, yes. Wow. Yeah. Incredible. So apparently there's a few reasons for this. Apparently they're running out of time to shoot. A lot of this would have been filmed outdoors in the UK.

They were like, we were trying to film it during World War II, and we've just missed the boat there. Another source raised the possibility of a Guadagnino remaining untested in the realm of action movies, and also the budget was in the $70 million range.

And they weren't sure whether he could deal with that. And also maybe they were thinking the budget might go down to 65, which might not have been enough, et cetera, and so forth. But Deadline, they've come in and saying that they're going to reassess this and maybe aim it for a 2026 shoot. They might miss it this time around because they didn't have an actor or...

Budget and whatever. Or anything, a script. Yeah, well, that's one of the things that they apparently did have, because, you know, James Gunn has talked about it again and again, unless he's a big liar. A gun and a gun. Yeah, that. they're not doing it I've said it once I've said it a gun and a gun and then he winks at the camera and then they get him right centre frame they push all the actors out of frame and then he's centre frame yeah

They do love that James Gunn Presents now, don't they? They do. Yeah. You know, I mean, probably they need a Stan Lee, you know? Because, I mean, that's what... The previous generation didn't have. I guess it had Zack Snyder. Yep. But he's not there like, I'm creating a universe. He's like, hey, what's doing that? He's like, what if Batman stubbed his toe and it hurt really bad? Yeah.

What if Superman got so many chicks? It's not what happens in the movie. No, but what if? Hypothetically, while you're watching this boring movie, you can imagine him getting a bunch of chicks. Deadline is saying, I said that, so they're going to reassess and maybe shoot in 2026. Speaking of scripts that aren't completed potentially, Jeff Snyder has said that Mike Flanagan from Midnight Mass and many other great things.

He only wrote a skeleton script for the Clayface movie. Which is ironic as well. Clayface doesn't have a skeleton. Exactly. He's mostly skeleton free. If you've played the Arkham game that he's in, be right through it. And the focus will be, because his focus is going to shift to an upcoming Carrie TV series. So Clayface is getting a page one rewrite. I don't know if that-

Unless he's a big liar. Who is this again? This is Daniel. Jeff Snyder. The Insnider. What's his hit rate? I can find that out. Because he's a big scooper slash liar, isn't he? Alrighty then. I'm Ace Ventura. You okay with that? I think that's great. For Marvel, he has a 55.7% accuracy rating. Overall, he's got a 62.5%. Better than a coin flip. Just barely. I mean, you know.

I don't know, I think that remains to be seen. You know, when you mentioned that a lot of these DC projects have, you know, ideally have a completed script, you know. Sergeant Rock would probably tie into Creature Commandos, right? You'd think so, yeah. You'd think maybe he meets the J.R. Robot. Yeah, J.R. Robot's fun. Yeah, he's fun. That's good. You love a rag tag team, don't you? I love a rag tag team. And you love all the movies that they have.

Yep. Including the one we're talking about today. You loved it? I liked it a lot. Not to get ahead of it. You loved it? You loved it, everybody. Who loved it? He's raising his hands to the roof because he is in his house, as we all know. Oh, dear. You're not? Would you consider yourself in the his house? I mean, you have put that sign up that says James is his house, I guess.

Like, legally. Legally, yeah. Be very careful how you word this. Yeah, I think legally. Although I'm against this. And this is a studio and not a his house. I agree. Well, I guess I went through the his house to get to the studio. That's right. Yeah. So you are... I'm not in the his house. I don't like this. I really felt that you were. Try this all the way. Honk. Get out of here, boat. Mason, now you three me. The third now you see me is here. That's right. And this time, magic.

And they have to do a heist. Yep. And there's two teams, though. There's a young, cool team. Cool guys. And then there's Woody Harrelson's team. That's right. The old guys. Stupid. Yucky. Yeah. Could be fun, I don't know. I like the last two. I think they're almost great, kind of fun, silly action movies. What holds them back? That they're bad? That they're bad, and also that, again, Woody Harrelson's character seems to...

There are plenty of videos on this, but, like, the idea of, like, most of them are, like, just good at sleight of hand and they've got gadgets and they've practiced and whatever. Was there Zikaplan in this? Try it low. Y... No, it's... I know Isla Fisher. Isla Fisher is back. Lizzie Kaplan was in the second one. Okay. She was like, I'm the girl one.

Okay, well, that's good. I don't think she's back in this one. I couldn't see her in the trailer. But there are plenty of videos on this, but the idea of like... Woody Harrelson's the hypnotist.

But his hypnotism powers work like they do on stage, which is not how hypnotism works. You know what I mean? Like he can wave one of those coloured circles in front of your face and say, go to sleep, and then you go to sleep. And like I've said, that doesn't work in real life because if it did, people would rob.

petrol station absolutely yeah so you're right Lizzie Kaplan wasn't in the first one it appears that she was in the second one potentially though I haven't looked at the cast for that one might be a big reveal she's in this Mark Ruffalo also not in this one he was in the previous two

What was he in that? Was he a magic debunker or something? James, I don't want to spoil too much. But also, nobody cares at this point. He was an FBI agent, but that's revealed at the end. He was working for them or something. He's also the big main magic guy. Yeah, man. Yeah. Wow. New cast in this, Dominic Cesar from The Holdovers is in this. He's in the young, cool new team. I'm young and cool. And a couple of other people. They're also in it. That's right.

Ariana Greenblatt. Oh, yes. She plays Little Gamora. She's Little Gamora. And also Little Borderlands. Little Borderlands, that's right. Rosamund Pike is the villain. Oh, yes. Justice Smith. He's back. He's good. He's in D&D. The movie. Yes. Yeah, cool. That's the magic connection. That's all you need. Yeah, that's right. I guess we should re-watch these. We could. For something. So true. Maybe a movie commentary. I don't know. You interested in this?

Yeah. I mean, I'll watch it. For sure. Great. Well, let's out. November 14th, 2025! That's just ages away. I mean, we do have to address the elephant in the room, of course. It's called Now You See Me, Now You Don't. They haven't gone with Now You Throw Me. They've also, the first one was called Now You See Me, the second one was called Now You See Me 2. This is amazing. This is awful. I've really ruined it.

They should change it like the Mission Impossible movies. At least Tom Cruise and Macquarie had the balls to change the name of Dead Reckoning Part 1 to just Dead Reckoning because they're like, didn't work. Didn't really work. We're changing it. They should change it to now you see me, now you don't. And then the third magic one. Yeah. We're here again. Hello. Magic is real. Woody Harrison is magic. That's right. And in real life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Woody Harrison accidentally opened a pod.

And he can't close it. Because he's too much of a doofus. He doesn't want her. He's not interested, man. Yeah, 5th of November or whatever I said. Okay, great. Next up, we've got the Smashing Machine. Oh, yes. I'm not just talking about your mom, Mason. I don't think you're talking about her at all. I dare you. Because she's quite violent.

That's not true. No? You're thinking of Dwayne The Rock Johnson's character, Mark Kerr, in the movie The Smashing Machine. Yeah. But I understand how you make that mistake. It's easy to do. I don't apologise. so this one is directed by Benny Safdie and we talked about before this was announced wouldn't it be good if Dwayne Johnson did A movie. That was good. I meant just a movie. Oh yeah, that would be good actually. Like a real movie with real stuff in it. I don't-

love this trailer. Why not? I don't know. There's something about it. It's weird. Maybe it's just because it's him? Okay. It's weird. I don't know. Am I wrong? I think the... It'll probably be good. I mean, it's Benny Safdie. I think the makeup and hair has given a...

gone a long way to making you know differentiating him from previous The Rock projects where he plays himself where he plays himself I think this could be this could be it you know this could be I mean, you know, Adam Sandler, of course, had done this before, but, like, uncut gem.

gives us another side of that guy yes exactly he'd done serious roles before but i think you know i think you know what it is it's a real standout it's a bit of that you know it's got a lot of those like the fighter it feels The Wrestler. The Wrestler, all of those ones. The Wrestler. Exactly. There's an SNL skit where every box is... Papyrus, we've all seen. No, no, that one. It's a Wicked Update one, and... And it's also stars, so it's a news kind of...

satirical thing, but it's also got every boxer's girlfriend in it. Okay. And she's constantly talking about how she's going to take her kids to her sisters, you know, because if you're fighting, you know, it's Heidi Gardner. Anyway. It's great. So I kind of got vibes of that. Okay, right. You know, it's like, you can't do this. You're barking down. This might not even be how the trailer goes, I don't remember. I mean, good luck to The Rock.

He needs a win. I agree. Because we all think he's a dophan. Don't you think? Yes. You said he can't act and he's a buffoon. He's a buffoon of a man and his money brings him nothing but hollowness. That's what you said. That's what I thought. How did you get inside my thoughts? I've never said those things. You wrote it on my wall. Okay, right. About his house. And you need to stop doing that. Okay, fine. Yeah.

I think it looks pretty good. Okay. I think he is a good actor when given... Oh, he totally can, but he's very charismatic. Also having a lip glance in this. That's right. As a girlfriend slash wife. Yeah. Yeah. Taking our kids to our sisters and whatever. You know? Yeah. I'm taking a kiss to my scissors. Yes, what's that? Yay! Great. And of course we got a trailer, we got the Taser last week for weapons. Yeah, again, if you don't want to know anything... Oh, that's October 3, Smashing Machine.

If you don't want to know anything about weapons going into it, maybe skip this trailer and skip us talking about the trailer. This is another good trailer in the sense of we get more... of the premise we're going to firm a grasp on the premise but it still hasn't revealed too much so the last the little teaser last time was that in this small town at 2.17am a bunch of kids

wake up and they all leave their houses to places unknown. We don't know where they're going or why. But in this trailer, we reveal that... They're all from the same class in school. And Julia Garner plays the teacher. and people are starting to blame her and why, what's going on. We also see somebody vomit up a big thing of black goo. Yeah. There's a spooky dream sequence probably.

There does seem to be a spooky dream sequence here. Or it's real. We don't know. Could this be a really ham-fisted attempt? to talk about school shootings or something in a way. Who knows? I hope so. Is that 217, a Bible verse? People have been speculating. Is that relevant? What is the 217 Bible verse? Well, it could be anything. It could be Revelations. It could be Exodus.

Exodus would work. Exodus because they're exodusing. They're exodusing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love the cast of this. Could be Luke. Could be Luke. At least one of them is probably called Luke. Luke Skywalker. Luke Skywalker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. John. John Skywalker. John. Yeah. John Princess Leia. John Princess Leia. Yeah. Julia Garno has mentioned, Pedro Pascal, Josh Brolin, Brian Tyree Henry. Tom Burke is in this.

sort of Mad Max in that last movie. He was Mad Max. But he wasn't really Mad Max. He was mad facsimile. He was. Benedict Wong, Alden Einreich, great. Nice. A lot of scary faces. So what this trailer is... A lot of scary faces. There's a lot of... A lot of scares. The first couple of minutes of the trailer...

setting up all the paces and, you know, a little bit of town conflict and people are confused or whatever. And in the last 30 seconds, it's just a montage of just insane faces and people screaming, which is fun. I'm not going to watch this again, the trailer. Hopefully I'll forget my August 18th. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was one snippet of the trailer where I'm like, oh my God, that's some sort of scary monster. And I went back and I paused it and it's just an old lady. Yeah.

Sure wasn't a reflection. A common mind. Was it a reflection? Yeah, it was actually. On both your personality and face. That's exactly right. It was both. Yeah, I looked in a special mirror. Also, for people who are super invested in this, there's, of course, the little website. They're doing the whole thing. They're doing the website. I'm not that invested. Sorry. Okay. Are you invested to watch the two hours and 17 minutes of... surveillance camera footage that's what i thought no

Interesting. People have already skimmed through it for all the best parts. You do see a reflection of somebody's face apparently watching the footage. I think it's Josh Brolin. Josh Brolin, what are you doing there? He's concerned. I know he's an... Yeah, nice. I figured it out. No, that's probably before a lot of people did. When I see him in movies, I'm like, that's not real.

Interesting. Exactly. Okay, you think a lot of people are like, wow, he's on an alien planet. A lot of people... Really sandy. Yeah, a real sandy planet. Yeah, but that's Josh Brolin. That's really interesting. People don't know. So, of course, Zach Greger directed Bob Barron. That's correct. And just thinking about like that. The tension that that- that that movie builds is crazy like it's so and it like lures you in

Like, not only, like, emotionally, but also... I would have been lowered in. No, you weren't, but, like, you're physically, like, drawn further in. I would have been physically... You weren't, you've seen it, and that's what happened to you, too. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this. If I were in the movie Barbarian, I would have found an equitable solution that would have made all parties happy. Yeah? Yeah.

Universal healthcare? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Here, have some, I would say. And they'd be like, thanks, man. Thank you. Really appreciate that. So you're just carrying around universal healthcare? Yeah. But you're not giving it out to everybody. So it's not universal then, is it? Could be. If everyone's nice to me.

I don't like this little caveat you put on this, Mason. Too bad. It's petty. Too bad. I'm the one holding all the universal health care. I don't even know why they let you do that, quite frankly. And for which government? All? Yeah. Alright. As soon as you lose. Can I have one? Are you going to be nice to me? Probably not. Then no. Enjoy your regular health care. Mason? Yes? This is my high performance. What's that? Your bloody mum.

I don't know. What's high performance? I don't know. We made this website up. No, it's something somebody Jeremy Renner spoke to. Oh, okay, right. So they will ask him about coming back as Hawkeye in another season of Hawkeye. Ideally, he can do that because his character's name is Hawkeye. That's right. He's one of the Hawkeyes. He said they asked me to do season two and they offered me half the money.

I'm like, well, it's going to take me twice the amount of work for half the amount of money and eight months of my time, essentially, to do it for half the amount. I'm like, I'm sorry, why do you think I'm only half the Jeremy Renner? because I got ran over. That's a good line. Yeah, I agree. That's why you want to pay me half of what I made for the first season. And he said, this is not Marvel, mind you. This is like just Disney, not even really Disney. It's the penny pinches, the account.

I told them to go fly a kite. That's nice. That's nice. Must have been a nice day for us. That's all right. I mean, just at the insult of the offer. Sorry, we didn't see eye to eye on that. But he had said, though... It's kind of Marvel, though, isn't it, Disney and Marvel? I think so. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure somebody could have stepped in and be like, yeah, he's probably worse.

I would say people are, as a result of his accident and just him in general, there is an interest. I don't think this is, if anything... His profile has been raised. You would pay him more money for this. But you would think that almost all of these actors are on. those you know a wage schedule where you do another project for them and you get more money like that

That is certainly the case with Hemsworth and Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. and all those guys. And this isn't just a two-hour movie. It's presumably like a minimum eight-hour series. Yeah. Well, I've heard, and from a fairly reliable source, which I will not divulge. Jeremy Renner? Jeremy Renner. The Jeremy Renner app. Yeah, this is Star Wars more related than Marvel.

But those Star Wars shows, in particular, like the volume ones, they're incredibly cheap. Right. And I mean like as in like... Everything. Catering. Everything about it is incredibly cheap. I'm not going to say who I heard that from. It was you. Is that why they look like they're filmed in office?

Yes, that's right. And I imagine that there was a lot of penny pinching happening and that flows into all aspects. And of course the last Hawkeye series was set. Like they're paying people like fuck all. Yeah, yeah.

Because Hawkeye was set in New York City at Christmas time. Urn of cold coffee. Which can't be cheap to do. No. Because they were real locations and real stunts. I don't know how much of that was actually shot in New York, but yeah. Well, certainly most of it was shot in a real place. But I guess enough time has passed where they're like, anymore. I don't respect anybody. I'm wondering if the idea behind this was we'll make original Hawkeye more of a background character. And Kate Bishop.

The main Hawkeye. Wow, that's funny you should say that because my time to shine hello, a big lie potentially, said despite Jeremy Renner's decision not to do season two of Hawkeye, it's still moving forward with Hailee Steinfeld in the lead. And maybe that was part of it. Maybe... he was taking a diminished role in that. But if he's saying that it's still an eight-month shoot and all of that, then I don't know. Also, that might not be true. I would say they probably are doing something.

All guy related, but we're going to it at the very least. This also might be like a negotiation. totally he might not be entirely out completely yeah but if you shine a light on this and then somebody goes maybe we should pay him maybe they should pay him a full amount yeah

He also said he would love to do it. Yeah. But he said, I didn't ask for more money, mind you, just pay me what I made for the first season. Yeah, that's crazy. Great. Yeah. Then that's very reasonable. So we'll see if that happens. If not, they'll show up in the... Seems like Marvel are giving him the runaround. Whoa, he can't give him the runaround. That's his move. He's got to give you the runaround. That's what he's thinking. Probably nothing at all. You're right, my son. It's Vitecha.

Ryan Reynolds is apparently working on an X-Men movie with some Deadpool. No, he said before he's not interested in doing a Deadpool 4. He said my wife and family will leave me if I did that. That's too much of a big commitment to me, Ryan Reynolds, who also runs a football club and a phone service. Another thing that he does, I don't know. And he's always getting buried in that coffin.

That's true. He's doing all of those things. Some people do a cold plunge in a pool. He gets buried. Yep. And he loves it. That's true. And we love him for it. I think so. Apparently it's going to feature three or four X-Men characters and Deadpool would appear, but he'd be more of a supporting player than an actual main character. This would allow the X-Men characters to shine and still allow the fan-favorite Deadpool to appear.

and be up to his normal chaotic antics. And have all the good lines. Yeah, he's probably like, what's up, cable, nice balls. Look at my balls. What's up, Gambon? Go on. Nice balls. Also looking by balls. Okay, right. Et cetera. Sure. Yeah. What do you think of that? Good, but although it's going to have to be PG, so they will be holding literal balls. Okay, cool. Like tennis balls or whatever. Yeah. Apparently this is separate from the other X-Men film being written by Michael Leslie.

which is going to introduce the X-Men to the larger MCU. So this feels like whatever Ryan Reynolds wants to do. X-Force, it'll be X-Force. Yeah, I mean, he sort of did that, but I guess he could do it again. Yeah. It worked and it made money, so they'll do it again. Do you reckon it'll be like the...

Apparently they haven't decided on, but do you reckon it'll be similar to like the Blade, Elektra, Wolverine kind of team? Like it'll be something like that, like Gambit, like a weird offshoot team from like... No, I don't think so. Assorted X-Men, I reckon. Are you excited for it, though? Why? It's alright. Can it be fun? Yeah, also we don't really know what it is, I guess. That's true, yeah. But we know this next thing is Mason. Oh, yes. The movie Thunderbolts. Oh. Thunderbolts.

Asterix. That's right. On a budget of $180 million, it's looking like the US opening is going to be $70 to $73 million, and globally it's going to be somewhere between $160 to $175 million, which is... Okay. Bearing in mind there's a few caveats on this, Mason. It was released in China.

and is apparently the lowest MCU launch in 14 years. Uh-oh! So don't rely on China to save your film, Kevin Feige. Not this time or possibly ever again. That's right. So the lowest... opening in 14 of the 17 years that the Marvel Universe... That being said, it has very positive word of mouth, it seems. Fairly positive word of mouth. The reviews have been good.

There's a very good chance that this will have legs because there's nothing opening in direct competition for a few weeks at the very least. It also... Probably more so than Brave New World leads into things that people are interested in. And I would say also, generally, word of mouth has been better. Yes. I think. I said that, Mason. Good word of mouth. No, I wasn't listening. You need to listen to the words from my mouth.

We need to lock it. That's bad word of mouth. Like, objectively, that's bad word of mouth. Mine's words of mouth, yes. That's right, yeah. I'm just... Baffled by what do you think the story is? Oh, come on, mate. See if you can surprise me. Go. All right. Bring them on. I have seen this. And we're going to do non-spoilers and spoilers, but we're going to spoil most of the things that are in the trailer. That's right. Yeah. All right. Well, get this. What?

You know how you think that all the superheroes in the Marvel Universe are cool and sexy? Yeah, I do think that. You think that? Well, guess what? Some of them are losers. What? And they put all the losers in this movie.

And all the losers get sent on a mission. Are you sure you're looking in a mirror? Go on, sorry. Yeah, I was looking at your mirror. But you would still be in it. No, but your loser image has been burned into your mirror. Like a laser. Because I cry into it too much. That's exactly right, yeah. Okay, interesting.

Alright, I should probably get a new mirror. You'll just ruin that mirror as well. Like a loser image of me. Yeah. But you'll just ruin the next mirror as well. Oh yeah, you're probably right. Maybe I could get like paper towels but mirrors.

Yeah, maybe. Maybe you should just destroy all the mirrors in your house. Not a bad idea, Mason. Not bad, right? Yeah. Anyway, sorry you were saying I'm a big loser. Anyway, a bunch of big losers. They're like, what if all the biggest losers of the MCU could put on a... sent on a mission to do a thing and they all meet up and they're like whoa we're doing this thing

We can't work together. Let's kill each other. Yeah. Wait a second. I've got a better idea. Let's team up and be best friends. But not really. We'll say that we're not going to be best friends, but we are immediately. That's right. And we all like each other and feel sad. And we have sad emotions.

we all have depression for various reasons and we're not really heroes even though we do nothing but heroic things but some things we have done that aren't that heroic most of which you haven't seen except for the time John Walker

Beat that guy's head in on TV or whatever with a Captain America shield, which is not okay. Well, I mean, he didn't beat his head in. His head was pristine. It was just removed from his body. But did he actually decapitate him? I think so. Because that's fun. I think that's implied. Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, so what do I have to do then? Run around to a mission. Run around to a mission. Save the world, et cetera. Absolutely. New York City, baby.

This is from director Jake Schreier, who directed Robot and Frank. I don't know if you've seen Robot and Frank, but it's a fun little indie. He also created the show Beef. Oh, did he? Yeah, he created Beef. That's good. That's why Steven Yeun was originally going to be cast in this. Oh, that's right. Also, some of the writers are from Baif as well, I think. That's why everybody's depressed. Baif writers.

There you go. That's very interesting. Everybody is depressed in this. I'll say this. A lot of this is spoiled in the trailers. And I mean in terms of action set pieces. certain lines, things that are pretty obvious that are going to happen, but it becomes more existential. It does, yes. Than your standard Marvel movie. It's quite a small movie. It is, yeah. Like, it is a... It's a found family...

team movie in the style of Guardians or the Avengers, you know, a bunch of guys that don't get along, but they're going to have to get along. It feels closer to the Black Widow movie than any of those, really. Yeah. I mean, also for casting reasons. And like, for example... In Avengers 2012 There's an extended action sequence that happens in New York City and it feels like it covers the entirety of New York City. There's an action sequence.

later in this movie that is set in New York City and it sort of covers a street. You know what I mean? It's a smaller movie, but I think that's to its benefit for the most part. And I think this movie would have worked way better. It would have felt more welcome, and I think it probably would have done better a year after. I think this is the sort of movie that people were looking for. Yes. post endgame which is not a

A movie when the entire universe isn't at stake. Yeah, but it also, it does serve, and it's been six years since Endgame, to move the universe forward in a way that I think people were looking for then. I think they're probably less interested now. But yeah, it feels like there has been a lot of movies and TV shows, not all of which have been bad. There's been some really good stuff. But this one really is...

This is important and what's next is important. Yeah, right. I thought also this was an interesting movie in the sense that... Like you mentioned, everybody in it is depressed. Like it's a movie about depression and finding solace in others. Yeah. And I kind of feel like... It would resonate with two groups of people. One group is just people living their lives generally and going, things seem kind of bad right now. Yeah, I feel generally just bad. But also for people who are...

who are fans of the MCU that are feeling like it is kind of directionless. A lot of the characters in this movie are just like, Yeah, I just go around and I go into a building and I shoot a bunch of people and I leave and it's kind of boring and I keep doing this over and over again and I'm sad. Yeah, and I sort of don't even know who I'm really doing this for or why I'm doing it. But they've really leaned into like... There are no Avengers anymore, even though there are. Wow.

I mean, we've seen in other movies that there's still teams of people doing things. things, aren't they? Yeah, you know, is it Shang-Chi where the post-credits is like, look at all these rings or whatever? Yeah, but that was just a couple of people in a room. What about the Eternals? What did they have to? They were tame. No, they got kidnapped. They got kidnapped by a big space robot or whatever. Yeah, that's right, yeah. They all got tried and executed for their crime.

I think all I know like it is... It's pretty standard fare in terms of like a group dynamic that we, like you mentioned, like we have seen in like Guardians and even Suicide Squad and other like ragtag teams. But I do think all of those characters... work well together like even like a lesser characters that is like a ghost is a minor villain in ant-man 2 and has a Fairly significant role in this, I would say. She's in most of the scenes of this movie. Yeah, but I think...

Yeah, I mean, the lead in this is Black Widow 2, played by Florence Pugh. Correct. I think it's wonderful. I think she's a better Black Widow. I like her more than the previous one. Interesting. I don't know if you feel similar. But I think there's just kind of more personality. I think she's funnier. I think she's just more interesting in general. Well, also, these characters, there are jokes in this movie, as it is a Marvel movie, and therefore an action comedy. It's a joke.

But the humour is derived from their personalities. It's not just them all doing quips. What did you mention recently that didn't do that? Who knows? There was some movie where you were like, the humour is just like, we're all the quippiest person.

I think it was like two or three weeks ago. I mean, Ghostbusters. Yeah, I mean, Ghostbusters. Yeah, but it was something more recent. Yeah, must have been, yeah. Yeah. Very recently. But in this one, you know, we get David Harbour as the Red Guardian, and he's funny because he's so enthused. he's so in uncharted there we go yeah he's so enthused to be part of the team that's why he's funny yeah absolutely and he also he brings like heart and like

Take pride in your work. There is meaning in what we do. Even though I'm a big loser, that's not to say that we're not important and this isn't important. And John Walker is funny because his wife left him. That is funny. That's funny, right? Dude, he's having a great time. Yeah. And so on and other characters that are in this for the length of the movie.

Bucky of course shows up. I was under the impression that he wasn't in it that much, but he's in it quite a bit. And I think also what he does bring to this is A guy who's been in previous movies. And he's seen a lot. And TV shows. And TV shows, yeah. And he's seen a lot. So he's just kind of like, I know how this goes. Yeah. Okay, let's not do it like this. We'll do it.

I'll run this. Right, yeah. You know? Yeah, I know how these movies go. You need a guy who knows how the movies go. Yeah, and again, Red Guardian is an awe of him because he is. And to some degree, they all are because he's... been through the most yeah and he's also he's in a different point in his life where he's now a u.s senator um i mean they wrap up that storyline in this but yes but yeah i mean i think sebastian stan is great uh as usual i think I think he is.

He's a good, I probably wouldn't have picked him specifically, I guess, but he's a good team leader, especially for a team like this. Yes. I think he works really well. And I would, I don't know whether I have any plans to do it or even if he'd want to do it. I think he would be a good Captain America. I think you could bring him around to that.

At some point. Yeah. You know, if they wanted to move it away from Sam Wilson, which they'll eventually have to do anyway. Yeah. But a lot of this, you know, is where, you know, we're heroes and we suck. And whatever, there's a lot of that. The villain, of course, is Elaine from Seinfeld. That's correct. Valentina Allegra de Fontaine, who's doing...

Super shady, secret government superhero activities. She's the quippy one. She is the quippy one. She's got all of the quips. And she's tied to Lewis Pullman's character, Bob. who shows up very early on as a mysterious man who seems also like a bit of a loser and a nobody and can't do anything. But maybe there's more to him. And maybe you see that in the trailer. Should we save that for spoilers? Let's save us for spoilers. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I think it felt like also a bunch of this.

all i know it was was taken out of the trailers there's like a few there's a few lines like there's a moment in the one of the trailers where red guardian mentions how cool the winter soldier is like that's not in it there's moments where they like bucky's talking about how you can't call ourselves the thunderbolts in this they're named after like a peewee soccer team oh yeah

I got the impression that they couldn't call themselves the Thunderbolts because the previous president turned into a red monster. Correct, yeah. And his nickname was Thunderbolt Ross. But it seems that's... I don't know whether they just went, you know what, people didn't like it or didn't see it that much. They removed all of that for some reason? We can't call ourselves the new presidents of the United States of America.

because of what the president did and also that band yeah that's right yeah so it felt like that they removed kind of yeah i think that would have been fine to keep in right yeah there was a a trailer at one point where they were pointing out oh this is from the creators of beef this is the cinematographer what have you yeah and there's a moment where you see them

It's Red Guardian and Bucky driving a truck. And they're yelling. And they're screaming. That's not in the movie either. That must be before that crash bit. I think it is, yeah. Yeah. Apparently, also Baron Zemo was never in this because often he is leader of the Thunderbolts. Correct. That was never apparently considered. As you mentioned, Stephen Newman was supposed to be sentry at one point. I think Lewis Pullman is really good in this, actually. As Bob. As Bob. I think he's... Sorry.

You idiot. It is in all the trailers. Yeah, it is. No, it's true. Yeah. But you mentioned also bringing in cinematographers and stunt coordinators and all that. A lot of this is shot and done for real. And I think... a lot of this can be faked obviously but i think the movie You don't think about it because I think it looks good and you just kind of go with it. Most notably, this movie starts with Florence Pugh apparently leaping off the second tallest building in the world.

But you'd never know. No, you absolutely wouldn't. Because there's no close-up of that. No. She just steps off. She just steps off, and then we pull way back, and you just see a dog. falling off a building. Or if you've seen the behind-the-scenes footage, she just does step off and she probably falls like 10 feet and then they pull her up and whatever. Well, there is a chance she would...

Definitely. Definitely. But I think a lot of the action, on the whole, there's one particular superhero fight. Well, there's a bunch of them, but I think you know the one we're talking about, which is... quite good and shows like the powers of certain characters compared to others yes that's like a very that to me was like this is a fun comic book thing brought to life which again which is more of a spoiler thing but as I said I don't think aside from like the kind of third act

A lot of this isn't particularly surprising, I would say. It gets kind of a bit eternal sunshine of the spotless mind and a bit existential, which I thought was an interesting... thing to do in like a movie like this because i saw it with my son and even he was like i didn't think it was like i didn't think it was going to be like this at all he did really like it he liked it more than he liked the red hulk movie that's also maybe because he just saw this

but no he did like that didn't take away for him it was still like oh this is a good movie that you can get something out of and you know it gives you an idea of like depression and bipolar and all of that with you know that that some you can be at any kind of level and understand where they're kind of going with it so i think that was for this kind of movie it was balance reasonably well. It would seem. Yes. Yeah. I didn't love it. I liked it.

What would you say? I certainly liked it more than The Last Captain America. Absolutely, 100%, without a doubt. It was also sort of saying something. Yeah, it was sort of saying something. We'll talk about this in spoilers, I think, but I'm absolutely going to give it credit. for doing some stuff that marvel movies haven't done certainly in recent times it was nice to see

heroes actually saving innocent civilians. That's true. Which hasn't been done in a while because it's always just like, lucky the city's abandoned, now let's do some lasers on these aliens or whatever. Yeah, that's right. You know? Exactly. Sometimes they'll dedicate whole movies to how they didn't do that though. You know, every now and then. That's true. Yeah, Civil War, etc. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm going to say best movie ever. I'm going to say best movie ever as well. I wonder if it's going to be better than the Fantastic Four, if this is going to be the best Marvel movie of the year.

We won't actually know that yet. Let me stop you. You won't know that and I won't know that until that movie comes out. Until that movie comes out. And then even probably giving it a little bit of time. To think about it. To think about it. To reflect. To reflect. We are going to do spoilers right here. To sit in that fantastic number. That's right. Whatever that is. Yes, yes, yes. It's time for spoilers, James. Big time spoilers. That's right. I'll tell you this.

You know, one of the reasons that I like this movie? Why is that? Because it didn't just do all the things I was fully expecting it to do. Yeah. I wasn't like, well, like with a lot of these movies, and sometimes people will be like, how did you know that movie was going to play out like that?

because we've seen a hundred movies we've seen a hundred movies at least and we always know like we just our predictions for a movie is whatever the first draft thought is yeah that's right you know what I mean it's just like

Well, obviously the twist is going to turn out to be this because that's the first thing anybody would think of and they're not going to do a second draft. Yeah, that's right. But this movie did a bunch of stuff that I was not expecting. Give me one example. You can give me two. If you want, maybe start with one. One example would be, I thought that... There was going to be a bigger reveal at the end. Sorry, the lack of surprises for you. You know what I did live?

I thought there was going to be more punch at the end. I thought it was going to be better. And that was surprising to me that they chose not to. I like the fact that this didn't end in a huge punch-up necessarily. There was some punching. but it just didn't end with you know yeah just a sky full of lasers and punching that was good i thought it was nice that it ended on

You can be surprised when these people got your back, and that's nice. And you have an existential crisis or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was surprised, even though I knew it was going to happen, that Taskmaster gets... 10 seconds in this before getting shot in the head she does however get full credit in the in the in the she gets a full title line in the credits and she gets a line she gets a line in the movie you see her face it's Olga Kuryanko yep very briefly I hope she got

Half a million dollars. I doubt she did. She wouldn't have, but, you know. Because I know Jake Shirei was talking about, like, by killing her at the start, it gave you the... supposed to give the audience a sense that now anything can happen but i never thought another thing was going to happen absolutely not sorry that i was never like oh there's going to be something

dramatic as that and they're because the rest of them like they live so it is quite handily yeah it's true um i like the handling of the hand handling i thought like century's inclusion in this do you want to just Talk briefly about where Century comes from in the comics. Oh, boy. And how much of this they do. What I will tell you is that a friend of the show, Chris Over at Comic Tropes, did a video on...

the Sentry, but the Sentry's origin in the comics is a little bit meta. The idea was, hey, we we in the real world created this character. Marvel had this character, but we all somehow forgot about it. And the idea of the character in continuity is that the Sentry was a man named Robert Reynolds who... uh gained incredible superpowers became one of the marvel universe's greatest heroes but in doing so his his his powers also brought forth a being called the void and to

to prevent the void from destroying the world. He had to erase everyone's memories of him in the world. So he erased the memories from everybody on Earth, including all his superhero friends. And then the idea is, in the original Century Limited series, that he... regains his memory, including himself. He erased the memory even from himself and he remembers that he's the sentry. Then he realises, well, if I remember, I'm the sentry.

The void's coming. Yeah. And Esther convinced all the heroes one by one. That he is real. You briefly mentioned this, but they also, they went... What was it? What magazine did they do this in? Was it Wizard? I can't remember. This is in the Comic Traps video. where basically they also lied and said that this was a character that they were initially going to include in the 60s that got lost to time and they had an interview with stanley about him whatever

Could fly! It was Superman basically. But he was depra- And so, yeah, they really did work on that metal level. And in the end, it's obviously revealed that the Sentry and the Void are the same being. Yes. Because of this character, Bob. Robert as bipolar Bobbitt as bipolar etc and that's and so they they don't work any of that history stuff into this is a new super soldier yeah so julia louis drives his character

I was the head of some sort of scientific research organisation that was trying to build their own superheroes. Also, she's sad for her own reasons. She is sad for her own reasons. Was she sad? Yeah, they had a flashback to like... Oh, yeah. Walked on wherever she was from. Oh, yeah. And then somebody was like... Yeah. I'm gonna kill your dad. Don't do it!

Even the worst people can be sad sometimes. It's true. And that's cool. Yeah, thank you for saying that about me. But yeah, so they've created the Sentry program. They tested a bunch of people with this experimental.

Procedure. Seemed to have killed them all. Seemed to have killed them all, but Bob evidently was not killed. No. And he's got the full sentry powers. Yeah, but he also doesn't have a memory of that. And when he becomes a sentry or the void, he... doesn't have really an understanding or control of it. Yeah. And again, the sentry's origin in the comics is pretty elaborate. Yeah. And again, it's... It's a super soldier recreation. Yeah, and it's never... I don't think it's ever really quite worked.

entirely beyond that first initial series well it's not like He's not used much, is he? No. And also part of his... Anymore. Part of the dynamic is that every time the sentry does good, the void wants to do something evil. Yeah. And so they sort of balance each other out, which is difficult to do, I think. because in the comic books they're separate they're usually depicted as separate beings because the sentry's power is such that he can manifest these two beings separate.

But in this, it's more of like a... It's more of a Homelander situation. Yeah. He's superhumanly strong and vulnerable. Laser eye beams, telekinesis. Yeah. He can teleport, I think, or he can just move fast. I don't know. Yeah, he kind of... You can't even... You can't even lay a hand on him, really, because he seems to have some kind of force field, potentially, or telekinetic. Yeah, yeah.

What I would say is that I like Lewis Pullman's performance of the Sentry, but I usually think of the Sentry in the comics as sort of more aloof and kind of more godlike. I think there's a bit of that when he first rolls in. But then there's a moment where he's like, do you like the hair? I dye my hair or whatever.

To me, how he looks is more out of his hands. Because in this, they've given him a... they've specifically manufactured his design they've tested out all sorts of costume options and logos and what have you and they dyed his hair because blonde is more interesting or what have you but like the idea behind the century in the comics is that just

he's so powerful that he sort of manifests a costume and he becomes a more like a godlike being yeah so i'm like yeah you know this is i guess how It feels like this is the level at which the MCU would...

would approach this character. I can also see why they wouldn't do, he was always there, he was in all the Avengers and whatever. Oh yeah, that's another thing we didn't really talk about yet. I think that's too much. I would have loved that though, I think that would have been incredible. Yeah, I mean, it would be too much to do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and also there is a...

there is a real challenge in um bringing in a character of this power level and then what to do with them next as we've seen in the comics and if you look at like I can't even remember the name of the character. That character from Secret Wars who has everybody's power. Gaia, maybe? It might be Gaia, sure. He's got Drax's arm and the horse feet or whatever. I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they're very much like, we don't know what to do with this and this is a bad idea. This seems to be handled better. They're trying to put a... Put a lid on this. Yeah, he's more of a Hulk character, I would say, you know, because when we get to the post-credit sequence, he hasn't transformed into the Sentry in a long time. Also, he changes, like, when he... His hair goes back. His hair goes back. Well, I guess he can do...

Whatever. I think his aloofness does as he... The longer he is as a sentry and after he gets in that fight, I think... this aloofness kind of comes through then. When he realises the level that he is at and how he's stronger than all the Avengers combined and he's basically a god-like being, I think that's when you kind of see that. So when he does become the Void...

Apparently though, it will do like a shadow power on you and you will turn into like, you will disappear into a void and a shadow will be left. That's apparently inspired by Hiroshima. The shadows on the ground, yeah. So yeah, it's a pretty... like terrifying visual but there is a moment where you see a little girl get shadowed and i'm like oh this is gonna be reversed

Yeah, of course. Every single person that this happens to is going to be... Well, I actually went... You skipped a premiere to this. I did, yeah. Because you didn't feel like it, but I was there and I ran into the Sandspants boys and we had a conversation about what could be... what could the MCU do at this point to shock us? And we did say, yeah, child. But like, obviously not in this sense, in the sense of like,

They're blipped away. They're going to get blipped back. There's no way in this world that they'd be like, well, your alter ego killed this kid and they're never coming back. You can shoot Taskmaster in the head, but that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Not a kid. or the other thing the other thing that I'm like just a victim of human trafficking would be surprised by that's true

would be like a kind of meta thing. I think eventually they are going to run into like a Jack Kirby or a Stan Lee. Oh, okay, yeah. I think it's inevitable. A James Gunn, do you think? They might be a James Gunn. They're going to the DCU and they meet James Gunn. Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith would be there. Yeah, I reckon Kevin Smith will probably bring Foggy Nelson back from the dead. Yeah, that's right.

And Spider-Man will swing him through the city. Matt Murdock will be like, bring him back, please, Kevin Smith. Please. It'd be Snooch to the Nooch if you brought back my friend Foggy. It would be Snooch to the Nooch, yeah. so yeah after the void starts avoiding everybody Oh, you know what I really like? There's a conversation between the Red Guardian and Yelena about how she's a shitty person. She's lived a shitty life and she's miserable. And it's your fault, Dad. Yeah.

I think his speech is like genuinely moving. I think that is really well written and their relationship is really well fleshed out. I've always, I always liked, I think Black Widow is a better movie than people give it credit for. In particular, like I think the relationship stuff in that really. A lot of time works.

And, you know, David Harbour, big dad energy, so I think he brings a lot of that to this. Yes. And I think that's a pretty strong element of this movie. But, yeah, I know you talked about it earlier, but when they're inside the void and it is like a... going through your memories, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind situation, they've got to kind of convince Bob to stop doing a big void on everybody. One of the criticisms I saw of that particular scene is that we didn't see everybody's

internal turmoil. First of all, I kind of think that some of those characters have had that work through before. I got a big laugh in the theatre when... You know, they were like, how did you get through all your stuff? And Bucky's like, yeah, I had a perfect life. It's fine. Don't worry about it. I thought it was fun. And people were like, well, shouldn't we have seen some of that? Yeah, but I mean, he got it.

He's been in several movies. We've seen that. He's worked through it. He's worked through it. You know, he got his own series. We see his flashbacks all the time. Yeah, it's fine. We don't understand. I think it's okay to do a throwaway kind of thing. I really did like... I loved the fight where they all tried to... team up on Century. And it's not like a fight at all. It's just...

And the moment where like Buck is like, he takes his jacket off and he's like, all right, I'm ready. But he's just, he doesn't even. Yeah. doesn't even make a mark on him i thought that was really good and just as an exploration of how powerful the sentry is. Yes. Visually, I thought that was... It also doesn't even really feel like he's trying. No, he's not. He could just not move. It was insane. But no, I like that. I think you're seeing a character of...

Yeah, like at that magnitude. And these ground-level heroes, yeah. I thought it was fun. Anyway, so... What's Thunderbolt's asterisk main, Mason? Ah, turns out it's just Neo Avengers. That's right. You happy with that? Oh, you were also looking for a bigger Norman Osborn. I always thought there would have been one. I guess they weren't going to do that. Yeah, that's fine, I guess. But I think maybe to some people the idea of...

New Avengers like that is a big reveal yeah but to me I'm like man at times at times yeah exactly I mean also they really kind of hang a hat on it with like look at these losers I enjoyed that, actually. That's something that I appreciated.

The idea that they're the new Avengers in this universe, but they are also... to some degree the new avengers in the real world and there are going to be people like no no why don't they why don't they just bring back captain america and thor and iron man because they're expensive They're real expensive to bring those guys back, one of them.

several of them are dead yeah you know you can't just do that what are they just well because they can't and we did it already because real world you know real world concerns are there absolutely and so I like the fact that they were like All the media attention was like, no, they're the B-Vengers. They suck. They're bad. I don't like them. Who's this loser? This guy's a loser. I feel like also it's a throwback to when they first revealed that we're making these movies.

in like the mid 2000s and the articles were like Marvel rolls out it's B team because it's Captain America it's Iron Man it's Thor it's like who gives a shit about it and again now obviously yes but it felt like similar to that but in universe yeah right and i'm not saying that these characters will like reach the heights of those because they probably won't but i think it also they realized at this point that you can't really replace the avengers

So why not just be like this, you know, this, and we know nobody really likes this or thinks this is cool, but, you know, so we're going to acknowledge that. And it's also interesting that Sam Wilson owns the copyright to the Avengers, apparently, because he's... Starting his own Avengers team. Taking his bloody time though. What have you been doing? That's what I'm saying. Have you got other Falcon? That sucks too. Here is who he's got. Assuming that the...

Assuming that the actors will come back. He's got other Falcon. Yeah. I'll be back. Probably Bruce Banner. Bruce Banner. Yeah. Will he be back? Probably. He's too busy not being in Now You See Me 3. Now to 3. Captain Marvel. Yep. Shang-Chi. But again, they've not been in anything together. We don't know. Doctor Strange, maybe? Doctor Strange, maybe? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, this feels... Also, that's going to be hand-waved away immediately. Like, they'll do... I think they'll do a...

In Avengers Doomsday, they'll arrive at the same location at the same time. They'll be like, who are you? You're not the Avengers. I'm the Avengers. And then they'll just be the Avengers. Yeah, they're all just the Avengers. I mean, maybe it would have been more accurate to call them like the Dark Avengers or just keep them as the Thunderbolts. That would have been fine, but I guess it's a fun little meta twist. I guess. To be like, I guess. I think it should.

Alright. Let's do post-credits. The mid one is the Red Guardian serial. Do we got any other... Apparently they were giving away those Wheaties boxes. You can get them. For free. No, I think you probably have to pay for them. How much money did that cost me? Heaps. I don't want to buy that, actually. It's either Red Guardians in it. and he's like, look at me. Oh, yeah, that's fun. Yeah. Bit of fun.

But the real post-credits is, which apparently was filmed about a month ago, according to Jake Schreier. He goes, I didn't film that scene. I was there when it was filmed. And I can say that it comes from the set of a production that might be starting production right around now. So it might be fun for people to stay and watch. so it's very clearly set.

shot on the set of Avengers Doomsday and whatever they're doing. Bucky also has a wig, it seems. Sebastian Stan's got a beautiful... Oh, yes. Because he's currently, if you see him in real life during an interview, he's just shaved his head. He's just shaved his head, yeah. But I think he's had shorter hair more recently. As well. Anyway, so it's a year on and they're talking about how that team sucks.

They look pretty good in their little outfits though. John Walker didn't bend his shield back. What is his shield anyway? It was bouncing around. Did you mention you had a vibranium one? It looked a bit scratched up too, Mason. Yeah, see, that's the thing as well. In the MCU, there's not as much reverence for the Captain America shield as well. Like, what's the deal with Captain America's original shield? Like, it's been in bits. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know either. Just works most of the time. It's pretty bulletproof. I like his little GI Joe hat that he had on. Duke. Yes. What are they called? A Kangol? It might be a Kangol. It's a beret. Beret. Beret. Beret to you. Thank you. And anyway, it's the Fantastic Four shows up for interdimensional... I would love to know how many other people were spoiled by the, because right before you see that, I was spoiled by that.

Right before you say the post-credits sequence, it's all the music listed in order. And the last song was Fantastic Four, main title theme. And I'm like, oh, okay, I know what's happening. We haven't heard that yet.

And then we did. We heard it just now. According to IGN, Thunderbolts has a post-credit scene for 2 minutes and 54 seconds. That is the longest post-credit scene of any MCU project. If you say so. Well, apart from Rogers the Musical from the Hawkeye television show. If you say so. I guess it isn't then. Yeah, I think this one felt like I post credits to something that I do care about. Right. Which has, it's been a while.

It's been a while. It's been a while. Should I get some reviews here going from people who watch this? Please. Send them to us. This is from Will, who says, I had fun with it, solid B+. I'm not sure if it kind of ruined the experience for me or made it better, but I kept finding myself comparing the movie to Suicide Squad and finding that this movie did everything better.

Not that that is hard to do. I also thought that Bob's story did Joker better than Joker. Depression, etc. Oh, sure. I kept wanting to give the guy a hug and some encouraging words. Yeah, I think he did give a really good performance in that sense. Very vulnerable. Ryan says, I really liked it, but I think the response is overhyped.

What amazed me is how much it felt like a phase one movie. Seems smaller, good actors, but not really huge names. Contains story and with teasers at the end. Also, sadly, the music credits spoiled the last credits. Yes. Ara says...

Maybe my expectations are too high. Like I said, Brave New World, like I expected Brave New World to be a shit show with all those reshoots and poor reviews, so I was fine with it just being passable. This was much better, but my expectations were so high, it felt like a letdown. Harry says, great in-camera stunts, clever spots, and effective AFX. Florence Pupupu was amazing. Loved the emotional resolution to the story and very creative depiction of mental health.

Bipolar representation for the win. Had a blast, a cry and a laugh. A great outing. And Greg says, best movie ever. Best Marvel movie in a while and a refreshing shot in the arm. I wish you'd call them Marvy movies. Agreed. A refreshing shot in the arm. Is it too late to start calling them Marvy movies? Okay, great. A refreshing shot in the arm for the franchise just in time for the Doomsday Slash Secret. The Marvy Cine Uni.

Oh, that's good, Mason. I think it's good. Are you ever going to be sick of having such great ideas? No. All right, then. That looks like a rush. Of genius every time. Like taking the limitless pill? Like taking the limitless pill. But all the time. All the time. You don't even need it. I don't need the limitless pill. Yeah, because it's not real, I'll say. That's true. Great. Cool. Oh, and all the movies. Pretty good. I think, I reckon it'll probably make about 500 million.

Is that good? Yeah. Pretty good? That's good enough. Good for them. I think it will be remembered fondly-ish. Do you think this podcast will make $500 million? Eventually, if we do it for long enough. I think so too. If we can live a thousand years. Oh my god, we can do it. Alright, you know what it's time for? What's it time for? What do you think it's time for? What are we reading? Yep. What are we going to read? Correct. Nice.

You've been watching Home Improvement reruns? No. Would you watch a reboot? No. I think one of the kids' bad stuff in real life, would you watch that? No, I don't want to watch that in real life. We do watch the show of He Returns as a redemption arc for all the terrible things he related.

So his redemption arc, because he gets money to star in a reboot of the TV show. Correct. I wouldn't watch that. I'm not okay with that, and I wouldn't watch that. Okay, great. Mason, you know what I've read? I've been reading with my son. It's a series of comic books I'll be reading the first volume of Wayne called Wayne Family Adventures by C.R.C. Payne and Kyle Lamel Sabelle. And it's basically, it's set within the Batman household.

So Duke moves into the Bat family, the Wayne Manor. Duke of the Signal Duke. Yeah, that's right. But also in there is like Nightwing's living there at the moment and Damian Wayne. and Tim Drake. What, they all lose their jobs? Yeah, basically. And they're all, and others. I was going to say Carrie Cowley, that's not her, she's from the future. Correct. But others. And they're basically like slice of life.

comics like little very short stories okay like little adventures that they they have it's not dissimilar than like the teen titans tv show i guess in kind of tone yeah right kind of wacky, but my son and I have been reading that together at night. And it's just a fun, like it's... At night with a K? Yeah, at night with a K. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Like they'll do things like... They play like a Mario Kart style game and the loser has to wear Dick Grayson's original Nightwing costume.

The disco collar one. The disco collar one and Red Hood ends up having to wear it and whatever and he's embarrassed. It's a bit of fun. I think it's great. It's really just a fun slice of life. My son at the moment, he loves all the Bat Family stuff, all the interactions. and all of that. And it's also very true too.

the lore and also the tone of those characters. It doesn't stray too far from all of that. Well, then perhaps if your son enjoyed reading that, he can enjoy what I've been reading, which is also the battle. Man. That's right, I didn't misspeak, James. It's the Bat-man. You bought it so much. It's, uh, I've been reading, I read the Batman first night. which is a retelling. It came out last year, but it's a retelling of one of the early Batman stories, but like a modern take on it. I'll show you.

It's from DC? It is from DC. It's part of the DC Black Label collection. It's written by Dan Juergens and illustrated by Mike Perkins. So, Jergo and Perko. Jergo and Perko. Jergo and Perko. But it's essentially, it's a retelling of Batman and the Monster Men. Yeah. It's one of the early, very early... Can I see that cover? Yeah, have a look at that. Oh, I like that a lot. So it's essentially a retelling of this old story, but it's got very modern...

It's got a very modern artwork. Is it set in that era? Yeah, it's set in the 30s. But the art is incredible and it's the old Batman design. Like the very... you know the purple gloved version absolutely yeah you know uh but it's all effin and jeff and and it's like a very yeah it's very very very modern it looks like they both f and jeff yeah it's it sort of looks like a

Like a matinee, like if they did the old-time Batman series. I was going to say, the cover looks like a poster for that kind of... It does, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it just... I think the art looks incredible and it's very kind of, you know, looks real, man. Is it a graphic novel? What is it? It was three issues, but there is a collected edition. That's Dash Man. That's Dash Man. First Knight. With a K. Is it introduced like the Joker, et cetera? No.

That tells this very specific story. Tells this very specific story. Is it Bruce Wayne and so on? It is Bruce Wayne, yeah. There are supporting characters that you'd recognise. So Commissioner Gordon is in there. Julie Madison is there, so one of his earlier. One of his earliest loves. I've never heard of this. No Alfred yet, because they hadn't invented Alfred. Why not? He hasn't been born. Nah. great all right i'm going to check that out if i remember remind

It's pretty cool. I also was on the Big Sandwich website the other day, Mason, this afternoon. My son was like, what's that? Why is it called Big Sandwich? And I'm like... well and I played him the clip the big sandwich clip that he is in from like five years ago when he was much much younger and it blew his mind he was like my god does he want money for that yeah he wants money for it so how much you got on you

have any money on me, James. I'm spending it all subscribing to BigSandwich.com for nine US dollars per month. He doesn't mind if you go to the bank. He's not going to mind that. On a Saturday. Yeah, he's not going to mind that. What if the bank is out of money? The bank closed.

Well, he's got to mind that. That's what I figured, yeah. Yeah. Well. What is the date today, Mason? Let's have a look. What week are we on? It is the 3rd of May, James. Yeah, so this week at BigSandwich.co, we looked at a James Bond comic book called Your Cold Cold Heart. Yeah. Fantastic. Written by Garth Ennis. Yeah. It's famously creative of the boys. Yeah, so...

Really good. So we talk about that this week, but there's a bunch of other stuff. We recently looked at the Jason Bourne video game next week. We've got a commentary for The Running Man. Oh, that's a good one. And so on. So there's so much. Sign up early for our commentary for The Running Man, because let me tell you. There's a very special guest that appears for most of it. Probably too much. Probably too much of that, but he appears.

And let me tell you. You weren't even there for a long time. So you must have listened back to it. Yes, that's correct. You know what he said. Let me tell you. He's an Austrian bodybuilder slash movie star with a very funny voice. Let me tell you that much.

Oh, I also watched Another Simple Favour, which is the sequel to... Oh, what's that? Did they go to streaming? Yeah, it's on Prime. Okay. It's the Paul Feig sequel to the Paul Feig movie starring Anna Kendrick. I'm going to like that first one. Is it good? Yeah, it's fun. I don't know if you recall the last one, but Anna Kendrick, ordinary suburban mom. Yeah. She runs into fabulous Blake Lively, who's kind of, you know.

Just a fabulous individual with a lot of kind of dark secrets. Yeah. And spoiler alert at the last one, at the end of the last movie, Anna Kendrickson. Yeah. But she's back in this one. And this time she's like, I'm out of jail and I'm getting married. You're my mate of honor.

Henry Golding doesn't like that. He doesn't like it at all. Should I watch it? Yeah. I'll check it out. I think it's generally a bit of fun. I'm not sure in... Is it better than Paul Feig's Ghostbusters 2016? Yes, it is. I think it is. It's a big call. Because that's a movie that you love. That's not true.

But not for the reasons that other people don't love it. Oh, yeah. That's right. I have my own special reasons that are unique to me. I thought it was pretty fun. I don't know. In... I watched it yesterday. Because it's all filled with intrigue and, you know, double crossing and et cetera. Does it all make sense? I don't know. I only watched it once. But I thought it was fun. It's a fun vibe, you know? What would they call the third one? Now you threw me.

They would call it that. I would have called this an even simpler favor. Wow. The most simple favor you can possibly give a person. Can you go down the shops? How simple was the favor though? She said, can you go down the shop? Yeah, it's pretty simple, depending on what fall, but that's pretty doable. Can you get me a chasing bike and pull apart? It's a lot.

But maybe they're out. Then you've got to be like, then you've got to text them while they're out and they want something else. And they're like, yeah, can you go to Bromby's? And I'm like, I don't want to. I don't like Bromby's. I don't want to go. Do they even sell those at Bromby's? Yeah. Am I even thinking of Bromby's? I don't guess. Yeah. I have to cross the other side of the mall.

God, this simple favour isn't that simple after all. It turns out it isn't. Do you want to do some letters while you're here? Let's do some letters. We don't normally, but let's actually do it this time. No, we normally don't. Here's the same letters. Yeah, I reckon we'd give it a go. The classic bomb was... This new? This thing? No. I've got it for 10 years. Why don't we play it? Through the computer.

Do you know why we aren't playing it right now? It is computers. It is computers, isn't it? I mean, that's undeniable. It's under normal. This is computers. Mason, this is the latest segment of the show, and would you like to know how to reach the show? I kind of would, yeah. It's quite easy. You're on it, so that's probably the easiest way. I can ask you or myself. Yes. I can even ask me while I'm...

When it's just me. Yeah, if you're not Nick Mason or me, Mr. Sunday Movies. That's right. Famous YouTuber. That's right. Embarrassing. What an embarrassing thing to be and say. Also middling more than famous. You can go into the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group where there's a thread every week or...

Shoot Mason the shortest goddamn Gmail you could at weeklyplanetpod.gmail.com. And we don't mean just one word or whatever. You know, we've seen it all. Or should I say, you've seen it all. That's so true, isn't it? Do you want to go first? Yeah, I'd love to. There's an email from Avery. Dear James and Maso. Like the birdhouse.

Yes. This is from an aviary. Hello, James and May. So, I'm an aviary and I've achieved sentience. Probably because of all the bird poop. I don't think that's true, but go on. Were you calling aviary a liar? I'm not saying anything. I think with your attitude, you're saying something, I think.

It's a very sceptical attitude. Like you don't think that this aviary's gained sentience because of all the bird poop. I'm allowed to think things and not say them. That's not a crime, Mason. It is now. What? We just had an election and now it is a crime. I don't like this. Well, too bad. You're not allowed to not like things. Well, you're under arrest. Maybe you're under arrest.

I don't want that. I actually don't know what the results of the election are yet. So one of us is definitely under arrest. It's probably bad though. Absolutely. It's not good because things don't get better. No, why would that? That's so true. Impossible. Yeah. But Aviary says, long time listener, big fan, unless you do something crook, in which case I never liked you. That's true. Well said. Yeah.

I've been listening for more than 10 years now. Just want to say thanks for all the good times and making my day at work more enjoyable. My question is, is there a minor character that you like that got severely misused in an adaptation, so now you're mad that you're going to have to wait years to even see that again? Oh, my God, that is such a good question. Aviary says,

From their perspective as the birdcage. Presumably watching TV as a birdcage. Brought to life by bird poop. I think so, yeah. No, Gain's Sentience. A life is probably... Magic. A life worth living. Yeah, absolutely. For me, it is Graviton, who in Avengers, Earth's Mightiest Heroes, is the reason the Avengers assemble in the first place. In the MCU, he's in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and starts as another character, and they turn him into Graviton last second before he...

Oh, I didn't even know that Graviton. Yeah, Graviton is in that. Deathlock is also in. Deathlock is in that. I didn't know that. They look like that was not going to be Deathlock, but then it... Than it was. Than it was. That's exactly right. God, that's such a good question. I feel like... Uh, what's the, what's the journalist's name in Daredevil who does, Sam? Ulrich. Worthington. Yes, I'm Worthington. Ben Yurch. Ben Yurch, sorry. Uh-huh.

I think he's a great character, a great ongoing character. And would have worked in Spider-Man. Spider-Man, if Peter Parker ever worked in the Daily Bugle. And not to say that he wasn't a good character in Daredevil. It was, and now his daughter is in the new Daredevil series. Yeah but I do like that.

As an ongoing, there's more than one reporter. Yeah. In the Marvel universe. That's so true. Of note. But I think he also was used really well in Netflix's Daredevil. Yeah. You got another one to think of? Another one to think of. What about Scar, Hulk's son with the haircut? Oh yeah, is he ever going to come back? What a waste, would you say, your favourite character? No, not true at all. I think Jane Foster Thor maybe. I mean, we'll probably see her again anyway.

as Natalie as played by Natalie Portman I thought no I mean but will Natalie Portman come back oh no I promise i mean there's some minor villains like oh what was that Eternity thing also in that Thor movie at the end. They go into the volume and then there's... Eternity, yeah. Yeah. There's that. I mean, God the God Butcher. Yeah. Certainly. It's an incredible comic that they did not do justice to, really. Yeah. I'd like to see him again. Absolutely. He's only in that jar.

Just awful stuff on there. Were you happy with the new Falcon? What's going to happen to him? Once he gets better. Yeah. I'm indifferent. Because he fell over. He did fall over, it's true. Because you haven't thought of a single one yet. I haven't thought of any. And I never will. Yeah. This talking birdcage has really thrown you through all over.

That is true, actually. Do you want to come back to it? I'll come back to it later. All right, you won't. Tom Russell says, good question though, was there a movie that passed you by on release and when you finally got around to it was shocked by how much you enjoyed it? The one that comes to mind, because I just watched it, was the Jeremy Renner-Jason Bourne movie. Yeah. Pretty fucking good. Pretty good, right? Yeah.

Yeah, really surprising. And it's also, and I guess this shouldn't be surprising because Tony Gilroy directed it, who's working on Andor. Oh, that's true. Yeah, that makes sense that it is good. I should also watch Michael Clayton. I don't think I've seen it. Yeah, I've heard good things. But I watched another one that he did about espionage and secrets in different industries and Clive Owen's in it or something.

The Bourne Identity. Yeah, I'm thinking of The Bourne Identity. I'm thinking of The Bourne Identity. Hang on. Tony Gilroy movie. Duplicity? It isn't, yeah. Was that the one? Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's duplicity. Yeah, they're industrial spies. Yeah. That's right, Paul Giamatti's in it. That duplicity I really liked, actually. Yeah. God, they gave that $60 million. I would never give that movie $60 million now. Yeah. I'm a freakin' white man.

What's a movie, Mason? I don't know. I've seen every movie, though. That's the thing. But what's a movie you hadn't seen and then you did see? Because that's the point, isn't it? That you hadn't seen the movie and then you saw the movie. No, but currently I've seen every movie. Yeah, but there would have been a time when you hadn't have seen a movie. No, what happens with me is...

As soon as a movie comes out, I've seen it. Really? Even the movies that came out before you were born? Correct, yes. Okay, so how did you say them? In the womb. In the womb. Even the ones that were before you were in the womb? You saw them in the womb? Yeah. I don't think your mum's got a little glass screen. Or I don't think she's forcing a little camera, a little screen in there to say, so you can watch movies. I just don't think that's true. Alright, you caught me in a lie.

You caught me in a lie, alright? Yeah. Is this something that you also want to come back to? No, I would like to cover this one now. Alright, fine. If you wouldn't mind. I'm a bit away. Go. some movies that I overlooked at the time. So when it came out, I didn't see it. You didn't bother to see Electro when it came out. But I did see Electro when it came out. It's a bad movie and I regret it. Or did I see it? I think we saw it on home movies. It's a bad movie, isn't it? Yeah.

Movies, you know what I mean? Punisher Warzone? I mean, that came to... Yeah, I saw that when it came out on DVD because it didn't get a cinema release in Australia. Good point, Mason. Hmm. I've seen most movies. See, that's the thing. I've seen most movies. You've seen too many movies. Yeah.

See, because there's a lot of movies that I've seen, I've come to see, that were made before I was born. Yeah. But I didn't miss those. No, and you're like, I've heard this is good and then I saw it. And it was good. Good point. Yeah. I just love movies. Yeah, okay. All right, well, that's the answer, I guess. You got another letter? Yeah, I'll find another one. Two very poor answers from Nick Mason. Let me decide. Sometimes they have bad answers, though. Not this week. This week, bad answers.

Do you want me to do a letter? Yeah, do it. Christian says, hey, fellas. My son is graduating college this week. He persevered through some unforeseen events and come out stronger for it. Hell yeah, that's awesome. He's a big fan, and you guys are an easy way for him and I to check in. i'd love you to give a shout out to logan and let him know how proud his mom and i are

Logan. Logan. Congratulations. Good for you, Logan. We're doing Professor X voice. No, this is my regular voice. This is Mason's regular voice. Incredible. Well done. And obviously your parents are very proud of you. And more importantly, we're proud of you. That's right. And that's good. We're more proud than your parents are. Agreed. Even though we contributed less. So true, isn't it? Well, you know, yeah.

This is the Dunning-Kruger effect at work, wouldn't you say? I think so, absolutely, yes. That's awesome. This is from DJ. Another nonsense internet debate. Hi guys, I've been seeing Mr Trend this week and I figured I'd post the question to you. Who would win in a fight, 100 men or a gorilla? I feel like this shouldn't even be a conversation, but like Mos Eisley, the internet is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Very good. It's a good reference. What do they think it is? It doesn't say.

I think a hundred men could beat a gorilla. Do the hundred men have any weapons? I would doubt it, but tactics? Sure. Communication. Gorillaz also gasp really quickly. I was going to say, yeah. Yeah, they tire out very quickly. And I knew this before this debate was even. But what you need to factor in here... He's a coward. Well, cowards, that's a good point, actually. Cowards, and also you have to factor in...

that if you're one of the first couple of guys, you're dead. Absolutely. Also, my assumption here is that the gorilla's riled up. Yeah. Right? And all the men are surrounded. All people are surrounding the gorilla. Yeah, gorillas tire out very quickly. But also like... How are you killing that gorilla? It's your strongest pun.

No, it would have to be... We'll do nothing to a gorilla. It would have to be sheer weight and gouging and just a wave of... Price gouging. Yeah, price gouging. So he can't even afford his bananas. No, it would have to be like that you would have to kill the gorilla. Like you're all fighting for your life. So I think at a certain point, like your survival instincts would kick in and a hundred people could beat a gorilla. Yeah. If it was ten gorillas, no. No. Absolutely not. But maybe even five.

but one, I would say so. Just chief volume. And it depends like... What kind of men? What are we talking about? Is it average-sized men? Is it a range of men of different ages? Great point. That depends too. I think it would have to be the age range of how Mr Beast is. You know, we put 100 people 100 people one years old to 100 years old. That's right. That's what we're doing 100 people one year old to 100 year old Yeah, no, I think a gorilla would probably survive that.

But also bearing in mind it would be a massacre. Gorillas are... The strength of a gorilla is insane. I would love somebody, and somebody's probably already done it, to run a simulation of this, like program people. You know, with very bicep. you know, problem solving skills and a gorilla and just see what happens. Would you like Mr Bass to do it for real?

I would like him to be one of a hundred. It's terrific. And all of his dumb mates. Sure, sure, sure. But who would feed all the starving Africans if Mr. Beast was torn in half by a gorilla? Who would help 100 people seeing eye dogs? Who would do that? That's a really good point, isn't it? What about 100 seeing eye dogs versus a gorilla? I think they'd be friends. Yeah, probably. Are you saying, do you think the men would be riled up?

I think they'd be afraid. Yeah, I would be. I wouldn't be the first person to attack a gorilla. Well, I think that's what you're going to factor in as well. But it would eventually kick off. Like, it would have to kick off at some point. And if everybody's very slowly, like, chipping away at the gorilla... What is their incentive, though? Survival.

because they're not going to sit there and let a gorilla like smash her head in one no i mean that's true but also like I think... 99% of people in this situation, especially when that first guy gets his head pulled off, they're just going to run. I mean, to where? I don't know where they are. Are you imagining a zoo enclosure? I'm imagining like a big white warehouse. Okay, right, right. So you can really see the blood. I guess I imagined...

Just like an open field, the jungle. Okay. At which point I'd be like, well, the first guy will get torn to shreds and then everybody will run and then the gorilla will just tire itself out. Yeah. And that's not a victory for the men. No. You're right.

There are a variety of factors at play here. It's a victory at the sleepy time, man, who sends everybody to sleep. There's a great game, it's called Ape Out, about an ape escaping a facility, and it's also set to jazz music whenever you kill somebody. That might give you an example of what will happen. A guerrilla massacre.

But honestly, I don't know. That's my answer. I don't know. I was expecting you to know. Depends on the men. Depends on the gorilla. Depends on the setting. It depends on a bunch of stuff. But, yeah. But I think we've defended it. What about 100 podcasters versus a gorilla? Depends whether... Joe Rogan's in there. Yeah, first to die, I reckon. You reckon? Yeah. It would depend on what's... Is it a... Is it a...

Is it an even spread of normal podcasters and people who've been podcasting since they were small children? Oh, okay. Because they would die. Yeah. I think the normal ones like us would run. I would definitely run. Mason, I've got one here. Go on. From Kenny who says, Do you boys do improv together or separately? Or not at all? I've picked up a lot of yes-ing, yes-ending over the years, but recently there was a Zip Zap Zoom reference.

or the local non-union equivalent, I don't remember. No. No, none. We just know each other a long time. And, you know, you can pay a lot of money for an improv course, but I think, yeah. they shouldn't have revealed yes and that's the free tidbit they shouldn't have let that loose in the public because that's the simplest concept that's the most useful part of it your favourite thing in an improv is when someone goes

nothing that's your favorite that's my favorite thing because it gets a laugh no matter what yeah it gets a laugh no matter what and it brings it to a grind a grinding hole because this situation they're in is so crazy yeah that they got nothing and it's funny and inherently funny in itself yeah Mason, what's a movie that you passed on that you finally got around to?

Goodfellas. No, that... When did that come out? 1991. Oh, then, yeah, I love Goodfellas. You got around to it. I didn't get around to it. I didn't get around to it when I was... 10 or whatever. Yeah. So. Cool. It's pretty great. We did it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Are you got any more? Um. Who's a minor character that got severely misused in adaptation? See, my first thought was... Speaking of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., there's a ghostwriter in that.

Isn't there rumours that he's going to come back? Maybe. I am going to say Deathlock. I said Deathlock before and I stand by it. Bro, Edges of S.H.I.E.L.D., you fuck off. It's just how they did Cyborg in... in smallville true just a guy and they're like yeah he's got robot body parts but they're all internally and he's wearing a hoodie yeah and it's like nah man i went down i want the crazy cut in half face with the robot part

He's rotting. Yeah. He's got all these guns. All right. You're right. The robot part of him is like, we must do killing. And he's like, don't do killing, man. Oh, I don't want you to. Exactly. Bobby Moss was in it. How about that? Happy with that? Fine. Yep. Great. Oh, you mentioned him. Yeah. Cool. And the other thing was Goodfellas. Yeah, exactly.

That is a good movie that came out while I was alive. I feel I should have had the option to see it. To watch it in 1991. No, I mean like the movie that I picked should have been one that I could have seen it in cinemas. Yeah, okay. I chose not.

Alright. So I still don't have an answer. What was your answer again? I've forgotten. Ben and Rich. No. No, no, no. What? The other one. The movie. Other than the movie. Jason Bourne. Oh, yeah. You've also watched that. I did. It's true. Yeah. But that can't be mine. different answer. Is it can? Okay, I can. But it's good, fellas.

Is that the show? I think that's the whole show. And it's good fellas. That's right. A couple of good fellas here. Where are they? I'm looking at one. These are behind you, yeah. Yeah, that's what I figured.

Is that mirror that just makes you sad? It's my sad mirror. It's a sad mirror. Okay, right, great. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners. And thank you for leaving a five-star. on your podcast app of choice. If you do so, James will find it.

Doesn't even matter if it's on Podbean. I don't care, man. He'll find it. I'm finding it right now. And he'll read it out on the podcast. Partyman05 says, this show broke my brain. It's been news since the Westworld Bitstop, but I still hear it at the end of What Are We Reading? What Are We Gonna Read? Theme. Help me. P.S. The podcast is pretty good. Now Party Man 05. Yeah.

I don't mean to judge, but maybe what broke your brain was all the partying. Since 05. Yeah, since 05. Damn! That's two decades of partying, brother. 20 years. What are you, Slurms McKenzie? That's right. Good on you, keep partying. Yeah, I agree. It depends on how he could be doing cool. Like, he could be doing a drug and alcohol free. That's true. We don't know. Yeah. This is from Milkman988. Doing Christian side hugs. Christian side hugs. That's a great name of a Marvel character.

Christian side hugs. Side hugs. I agree, yeah. I got a Jehovah's Witness today. What do you mean you got one? I got one. I caught one. In your car. I got one. You got one with your car. I'm Hugh Grant Heretic again. Oh. I didn't see that movie when it came out at cinemas. There you go. It's a good movie. It's good. It's good, I agree. Milkman988 says, the funniest podcast I listen to. I've been to these, I've listened to these two for years.

They genuinely have a smart and balanced take on the films and shows they review, as well as a greater landscape of media and entertainment overall. But that is secondary to the fact that the comedy that goes into from their quick wit and phenomenal chemistry is fantastic and always hilarious. This podcast could be about anything and it would still be great.

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Dunno. I know people are saying is Novocaine the new... Snake Eyes. Snake Eyes, but there are some movies which we haven't talked about. There also might be a TV show that we're not aware of. We could do Drop and Novocaine. Drop is out, apparently. Crocodile Dundee's getting a re-release. We could do that. I think something's coming out in May the 8th.

Is that next week? May the 8th be with you. May the 8th. It's also Star Wars something, so we might get some Star Wars stuff. That's so true. I would love to do Andor, but we've got two more weeks of Andor. God, Andor, such a good show. It's a good show. Fucking hell, man. What are they doing over there?

Oh, they're making the TV show and... But it's so good. I agree. Yeah. I agree, James. All right, thank you so much, everybody. We'll see you on the next thing. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you real soon. Bye.