179: Two Good Ideas (yes TWO!)

This is the first podcast we've recorded with you as a fifty year old Tim. How was the transition? Well it's uh it still feels pretty good. I'm asking as someone who's still uh, you know, a forty something. I know. This is sort of a multi generational podcast now, isn't it, really? It's we're um uh sort of an older an older and a younger one, sort of like a Yoda Luke Skywalker kind of situation, I think. Yeah. Yoda, yeah. I that makes me look Skywalker. Yeah, I'm I'm very happy with that.

Yeah, you no, you should be very happy. In a moment I'm just gonna like close my eyes and die because of the conversation. Sorry.

That's when we get to moon of the week. That's right. That's right. Yes, very good. Yeah. Oh look it does I you know, you're supposed to say, Oh well, you know, it doesn't mean anything. But I have to say, unlike many other years, it do I do feel different. I feel a bit older. I feel like uh I'm fifty rather than uh in my forties somewhere. So yeah. But it's a good feeling. It's a wise feeling. It's like an elder.

You feel wise. Let me ask you this. How are things going with my birthday present? Your fiftieth birthday present that I got for you. Oh Oh yes, yes, indeed. It's a wonderful, wonderful present. Well of course Brady couldn't resist or move past. Getting me some Lego. But very specially, if if ever there was a Lego that I was going to get, a Lego set, it was going to be a beautiful. typewriter, but I can't wait to finish because it's an amazing Lego.

This is set two one three two seven, the ideas typewriter. It's a magnificent set. You sent me a picture a week or two ago that you'd started building it. Is it s what stage is it at? No, no, we had a wonderful blitz on a Saturday night. It was really fantastic, but then we've just had things on. We haven't been able to sit down and do it properly. This is me and my eldest daughter. We're the ones who are um who have been commissioned to to do this.

Yeah, we haven't been able it's it's it is a kind of a special time, you know, it's not something you just like run and do quickly. You do actually want to sit down together, put some music on and build. And um I really am looking forward to doing that. Can I say when you sent me that picture of all the bags ripped open and you building it?

I did die a little bit inside. Why? Like don't get it's it's your present, right? And it's yours to do what you want with and that you and your daughter are together getting joy from building it makes me very happy. Yeah. But like This is a discontinued set. It's a collector's item. I had to pay way over the odds on the grey market to get it. Are you serious?

Yeah, and well, I thought I kind of hinted at this when I gave it to you. This is like a this is like a special thing. I imagined the box going on display as this amazing thing, but no, like a ten year old you've ripped it open. Started building it and like it made me a little bit sad, but anyway. I would have thought it would be the opposite. Like you would have been hurt if I never got around to building it after you bought it. I just think it looks um it looks really great. So

Well there's a picture of it on Yeah, okay. Look look, this is a difference between you and me, but for me this is like I got you a football signed by Messi and Ronaldo and the next day you sent me a picture of you kicking it around in Victoria Park. Or or or I got you the inverted Jenny stamp and then you mailed a letter with it. Yeah. Brewster's Million style. Like this is this is how it felt to me. It's like, oh, this precious, precious thing.

Oh you should have you should have impressed that upon me. You should have said, Look, whatever you do, don't open it. This is uh you know, something to be kept as a It's yours. I would have respected it. No, no, that's not f that's not for me to say. How am I supposed to type letters with it if I don't build it? That's the Ha ha ha. Well, y did you at least keep the boxing good nick?

I have I have still got the box so we can keep that. Um and but however I'm I'm still even after you having said that I'm not regretting it because I'm really enjoying putting it together with my daughter. And it's looking really cool. Like it's a really great green, a beautiful green, great looking piece. Yeah. All right. Well, you know it cost eight thousand dollars. It didn't cost eight thousand dollars. It's dumb.

I might have regretted it then by not selling it to someone. Which w would that really disappoint you if you suddenly saw, Oh, Tim didn't unbox it. However, he did put it on eBay and resold it again. That would that would disappoint me more to be fair. Fair enough too, yeah. Can I say I think they've spent more time than they needed to designing the inner workings of the typewriter because we have spent a lot of time under the bonnet and and had to backtrack quite a few times, I tell ya.

That's what these sets are like. The innards are get really complicated. Then you cover them all up later. Sometimes in ways that you don't easily get to look at it again. So but that's part of but you know, you know what's in there. I know what's in there. That's right. It's like an iPhone. You know, we know what's in there. It's gotta be beautiful, as Steve Jobs said. And and and and it and it works too. Like

And it doesn't work like a typewriter, but certainly there are moving parts and it's very logical and it's quite clever and yeah, yeah. I'm impressed so far, I have to say. Yeah. Yes, it's a It's a toy. Okay. It's a toy I yeah, I do consider it a toy, but in the it's a you know, it's like a it's a building, it's a very constructive, it's a good toy. You know what I mean? It's not one of those sort of damaging toys like a gun or something or that my parents would have considered. It's like a

You know what I mean? A good boy toy, constructive thing, yeah. Okay, let's move on before you hurt me any more. I still think it should be sitting in its box on a shelf behind you, but Let's move on to Wesley News. We have breaking Wesley News, man. You know we love the name Wesley. Uh Yeah. Massive. It's it's a big, big part of our life now. And anything involving Wesleys is very important to us. And it is possible I don't think it's a good thing.

likely, but it's definitely very possible that we could have a Wesley or a Wes and I'm deliberately saying Wes and not Wes because this person does call himself Wes, we could have a Wes as Prime Minister of the UK. Yes. Because there's a lot of uh there's a lot of Machinations going on at the moment, people trying to depose the current prime minister, who's a guy called Keir Starmer, and one of the leading candidates.

Some people say he's a second tier candidate, but he certainly in the in the running is a guy called Wes Streeting. Wesley Streeting, Wes Streeting. He goes by Wes. Uh and he's thrown his hat in the ring. I see on poly market at the time of recording he's got a six to seven percent chance of winning, they say, of of taking the job. Oh Okay. That's a bit lower than I thought because he went out early, didn't he? Yeah.

But he r he was the minister in the government and he resigned and he's he said he's interested, so but there are a couple of other big name candidates. And of course there's a possibility that no one takes the job from Keir Starmer as well, which people seem to forget. So uh Right. As soon as the horse race is running, it's a bit hard for the incumbent, isn't it? You forget that they're actually the Prime Minister.

Yes. So watch this space. We could have a Wes as Prime Minister, and if that happens, that's gonna be a big deal for the Unmade Podcast and our legion of Wesers on Patreon. Do you think that we have played a significant role in elevating him to the platform that he has? No one had heard of him before this.

We popularized to the name which opened the door for this leadership bid. I think before this he was thinking, Oh, no one's gonna vote for a WES, it's not a very popular name And then we lit the touch paper. We started the fire and now it now wesers are coming from everywhere seeking positions of office and glory. Many people came to him one day and said the Unmade Podcast is officially endorsing a Wes and he's just like, Well that's it and and went and maybe went a bit early, you know? He like

Sort of went to rush of blood to the head based on our endorsement of his name. We're not endorsing him necessarily, but his name. We are we we're not making any endorsements. I wanna know why you think his people came to him and he didn't hear the podcast like on his own. No I mean that he would have done that too, and he said, I know, I know, I know, I'm there already. That's what he would have said. Yeah, hey, what about you?

He does seem like a lovely chap, because I don't know anyone else in the race, I do like him. He's kind of my favourite at the moment. I think he's a good guy. So Um but but um that's a bit unfair both on the current Prime Minister and who um and on those who are yet to put their hats in the ring. If indeed there is a ring.

Yeah, well no, there is a definitely. I mean there's a lot happening. Andy Burnham now's running in a by election to the mayor of Manchester to try and get into the parliament so he can have the job. I think he would be favourite. I've yes, I've heard that. Isn't that amazing that someone they actually quickly someone dropped out to cause a by election so that he as a very popular mayor can jump in and make it into the parliament and then be elected.

Crazy times. And he's not even a Wes. So I mean that's gonna count against him, but good luck. Good luck to all the Andes out there. That's right. That's right, he's up against it. No one seems to be going with their full name. Like Wesley has to be Wes. Andrew has to be Andy. Like Is the UK finally introducing sort of a bit of a casual, you know, yokel kind of aspect to it? Is it finally loosening up a little bit? Don Trump? Hãy subscribe cho kênh La La School Để không bỏ lỡ những video hấp dẫn

Well, I guess you probably can. It is funny that he has he is a very Don kind of guy, isn't he? But it is funny that he went with Donald. Donald seems very long. Do you think he's got any friends that call him Don? Like is he called Don amongst his friends?

I don't I don't know. And I don't know what he might make them call him President Trump. Yeah, yeah. But we had Bill Clinton, you know, and Bob Dole. It it is always very much like that. We use the smaller name. It's unusual for him to I as I figure to have the Donald as the long name. That's what he went for.

Let us move on to some parish notices'cause in the last episode, Tim, we uh we had some ideas and you know, the people have had things to say and I do read all the messages, but I also like to share some of them here on the show'cause That seems right, you know? Right. Right. Yes. Are they your favorite messages or are they just messages that you choose at random? No, they are heavily weighted towards things I like or things I have something to say about. Fair enough.

We had the idea possessed. Remember this was possessions, things you own that become possessed and seem to take a life of their own and often cause you problems. Um Tim talked about his microwave. Uh causing him grief. All the noises it makes and beeps and boops and bops it does, uh particularly when it's finished cooking team?

That's when the song really kicks in. That's right. There there's certainly a lot of beeping that goes on at other parts, but the ho the full the full sort of, you know, orchestra kicks in when the uh when the cooking's done. A few people got in touch saying apparently on some microwaves if you hold down the two button, it can turn the music off and the sound off. Have you have you tried this or? No I've not. No, I've not tried it. It's like a mute button, is it? The two? Okay.

Apparently if you hold depress the two button for a while, give that a try. But in the meantime, Technomusic asked, I'm going to have to request a recording of Tim's Microwave Symphony. And we like to deliver Tim has recorded some beeps and boops and bops from your microwave, have you? I have I've sampled it. I think that's the term that techno music will uh be familiar with. That's indeed the case. You've sampled it? Okay, well let's have a listen. It's coming up.

All right, thank you very much. Uh we also Tao is the way on the Reddit got in touch following up on that request, asking if Tim can do a rendition of that on his guitar. Is that even possible? Could you play that on the guitar? I guess it is possible. I guess it is. Let me let me see what I can do. Now I haven't actually practiced this, man. So Oh really? You have cut off the other things. But I can do it pretty quick.

All right, Tim's having a just reminding himself as his Osbot camera slews wildly around the room, his own possessed item. All right, here we go. Let's see what I can do here. Okay. How's that? I mean it's way better than your money for nothing sale life. Yeah. You know, I actually had an idea.

That um to do with my guitar and little doodlings and riffs and so forth, I wondered if people would actually appreciate them as downloadable gifts to be able to put on their phones. Like would people actually like to have a unique, one of a kind Tim Hine Doodle on the guitar, um, as their ringtone or as their text message arrival, you know. indicator. What do you think? Do you think there's a market for that man?

Nah. Do you think I do you think that's a way I could buy another one of these typewriters to put on the wall? Definitely no. I reckon there's something well, okay, let us know. Let us know if you would be interested in in uh uh this is it. It would be avail you could only but like only one person could own it. This would be your unique only specialized um little Tim Hine guitar doodle. Reef thing. Yeah. If you're interested, send an email to us at Brady Won't Check This at unmade dot Fm.

Until the mailbox is full and then you'll get a notification. It's bursting. Let's move on before Tim gets any more entrepreneurial ideas. Another one, this comes from Taylor in Denver, who has a private pilot license and normally flies Cessna aircraft. However, one weekend when I was visiting my girlfriend of the time, the two Cessnas were booked, so I had to make alternative arrangements. I got checked out in the Piper Cherokee, a particular Piper Cherokee.

Uh and I used that aircraft any time I needed a plane for a longer trip and the Cessnas were booked. I learned why no one liked this particular Piper Cherokee. In that single aircraft I flew maybe twenty five hours total. I had a flat tire in the middle of O'Hare Airport. I can't imagine how stressful that would have been.

I got stuck in adverse weather on two occasions, once in the air and once on the ground. I made a forced landing in a cornfield after an engine failure. Beyond that, it was an uncomfortable aircraft and far too old, even by general aviation standards. I always felt like the aircraft was possessed to make my life a living hell. I love the idea for this podcast. Taylor, what are you doing? Why did you get in that plane multiple times?

There must be a real sense of superstition around planes, surely, things like that. I know there is with kind of boats, there's all sorts of superstitions and rituals and things you're supposed to do and not do. Like a boat always has to have a female name. I think planes probably are similar, something like that. Yeah. All right. Uh Righere got in touch, who also loved the possessed idea. Righere possessed a Brompton folding bike. As many people know, Brompton is the most popular folding bike.

And they make you pay a pretty penny to own one. After a bit of saving, I finally excitedly bought the possessed folding bike. The biggest problem with it was the complicated folding and unfolding dance. Every time I did it, it would inevitably pinch a finger, or I'd misfold the thing. Often both. I missed my train on more than one occasion'cause I was busy wrestling with the bike to fold properly.

After weeks of pinched fingers and misfoldings, I decided to return it. I thought I'd give it one last chance on a trip to the bike shop. As I was folding it back up to get on my train, it gave me the most excruciating pinch on my fingernails. I hate that bike. from your favorite Patreon, Rugero. I don't he's just added that favourite thing. That's editorializing. We have not we have not yet decided our favourite patron.

He's certainly in the running. If it's a patron, then yes, he's in the running, absolutely. I have a scooter that folds up that I use to follow Edward around when he's riding his bike so I can keep up, like just a push-along scooter. And folding that up is an absolute nightmare as well. So I I really sympathized with that message. Yes, I I'm visualizing a particular scooter and some pinching on my skin as well. Indeed. Yes. Uh

Lastly on this topic, Desiree. Oh yes, I had a possessed car, a Ford Escort. The injured would cut out when I went around corners. The radio would always change back to the local Zulu radio station. Desire lives in South Africa. Right. The local Zulu radio station. No matter what I put on, the rear window would wind down whenever it felt like it.

Sometimes when the car was parked. When I was a little kid, uh there was a there was a mum who used to drive us home, like a mum of one of the other girls at the school. And she had a car that got a wiring defect. I think I've talked about it before. Obviously, it had some crossed wires in the steering wheel. And whenever you turned left,

only left, the car horn would beep like it would like you pressed it but you hadn't. And us kids thought it was the funniest thing ever. And sometimes she would just drive around the block four or five times. You know, turning left each time and we would just we would just laugh, laugh our heads off every time. We thought it was amazing.

It's unbelievable to think of the cars that were on the road back in the day, like things that would we just wouldn't dream of them.'Cause all the cars now are cars Even the oldest cars that we see are cars that have been released in our lifetime. So they all feel like new cars that have dated a little bit. But when we were young, people owned cars with holes in the floor, like rust holes. You could see the ground and Just atrocious things missing.

Y your your Renault, man, your Renault would not be allowed on the roads in England. In England you have to have your car checked every year for roadworthiness and make sure it's all modern and that's called the uh M O T. Oh right. So so you don't get that in England. But in Australia you still get some old bangers, I notice. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few. But then if something significant happens, like it get it it moves state or it gets bought or sold or something like that, often that sort of thing kicks in.

Right. Um but not not like it was. I mean back just unbelievable things. But I guess I noticed it in particular because I worked at, you know, Mix Scorpos Petrol Discount King service station. And so you're just watching cars come in all day long and you look at some and go, That is That that shouldn't be going that's not going very much for

Tim had a podcast idea last episode, which was favorite sporting moments to go back and watch, like on TV or YouTube and things like that. We got sent loads of these and I can't list all of them. Uh I don't want to go too deep in it, but I feel like people went to so much trouble writing about them that I should just bang through a few of them just so they get a shout out.

Um, we've got the twenty nineteen Cricket World Cup final with a famous super over England versus New Zealand. I have a lot of feelings about that match that I won't share. The Aguero twenty twelve Premier League goal, which I remember watching really well. That was the that was a that was a Premier League soccer match in England. It came down to the last minute of the season.

And I remember watching that with my wife who never watches football and we went for a walk of the dog afterwards just to calm myself down. Mm and I just kept saying to her, Y you just witnessed the most amazing thing. I hope you realise that and she's like, Oh Yeah. Seemed exciting. All right. And I was like, No, no, you don't understand. I'll be talking about this on a podcast with Tim in fourteen years time. Uh

Uh the banjo lady said I'm gonna do this because we never talk about curling on the show. The banjo lady said, Brad Gushu? Gushu? I don't know how to say his name, but he's like the most famous curler of all time. The Goose Man. Oh yeah. The g the gooshmeister. His first his first Briar win. The Briar I think is the curling tournament for Canadians. Right. Uh he he won it lots of times apparently, but his first win was a special moment for the banjo lady who is Canadian.

Uh lots of people got in touch with baseball moments. The Chicago Cubs winning the World Series in twenty sixteen was a big one. It was a very famous and dramatic series and it was the first time they'd won it since nineteen oh eight, so it meant a lot to Chicago Cubs long suffering fans. So that came up a few times. That's the one that's mentioned at the end of that Brad uh Moneyball, the Brad Pitt movie. You know how he gets tempted his as a coach gets tempted to go to the Remember.

The the the Cubs and he says no and then you know what I mean? And then he goes in and then they win the World Series the next year or something like that. That's a great film by the way, Moneyball. I think that's a fantastic. That's a repeated listen when I'm catching a plane somewhere film, definitely. Joseph Johns got in touch and mentioned a few things, including the Watford versus Leicester Championship playoff. Uh, yeah.

Last minute thing that happened in a football match, which I watch a lot as well. Guy called Troy Deany scores a dramatic goal in a very interesting circumstance. So good call on that one. Polar, another Canadian, mentions the golden goal by Sidney Crosby at the twenty ten Olympics.

Uh and shout out to Dexter on Patreon for going very deep into a horse racing moment that I won't go into as well, but I didn't expect to see horse racing in the in the comments. Go and show our Patreon if you want to go and see what Dexter wrote about. There we go. Do you have a memorable horse racing moment, Tim? do. MacKib Diva running winning the um the third Melbourne Cup. I teared up watching. It's third Melbourne Cup, not the third ever Melbourne Cup.

No, indeed, yes. I think it was about the hundred and third Melbourne Cup. That's right. Um, Mackay Diva. Yeah, no, I I I teared up. I don't know why. I do. I can't really stand horse racing. I love horses, but I have no interest in it. But um this is a famous race in Australia that famously stops a notion, right? The race that stops the nation. Do you know when I was in year seven?

Um During class, we stopped class and they played radio commentary of the Melbourne Cup over the PA over the rickety old PA system around the schools. Did we we did that too when I was at my Catholic school. I imagine that was when you were at Sacred Heart, is that right? At a Catholic school. Yes it was. I reckon they ran a whole the staff run a whole book, right? So there was betting in all the classes and everything like that.

Unbelievable. Wheeler TV into the classroom so we could watch the Melbourne Cup. A horse race. Unbelievable. But Macabi Diva's third one that was like Yeah, and then they're special to you. getting were you were you getting emotional for the horse or for the owners of the horse or the coach or the jockey? Wha where was your um where was like the resonance for you? Who who were you empathizing with?

With the horse, with definitely the horse. I can't even remember who the jockey was, and I just remember Of course didn't know what had happened. Oh no, it's all about it's all about the horse. And and she's and coming down the strait. And I remember I was with my wife and she goes, Look at her go the girl. Like this, like really moved and emotional as well. And we were both just

It was just beautiful. Yeah. It was marvelous. I mean, it's just a horse being hit to run fast. It's crazy. And yet it was just like oh It was a sweet romance. And then they and then they retired her after the race in the acceptance speech. She's retired. That's it. She's done. And she just died a few months ago. And I paused to sort of consider her again then as well. But were you like I mean I've no doubt horses?

like running fast. Well, I think they might like running fast, particularly if they're getting whacked and they don't want and they want to stop getting whacked. But but do you think the horses have any sense of competition that they that they want to get there before the other horses? Like do you think they realise they're racing? I have no ideas, but I don't think so. I don't think so. So why were you emotional for Maccabi Deva? It's totally irrational. Well, yeah.

I mean all sport is irrational, isn't it really? It's like, oh well it's a it's a leather ball being kicked through some posts and who cares but you you're in you know, all sport is irrational. at least you can empathise with the humans there and think how happy they must be or like the the the elation or the elation of of the fans who've wanted it so much but uh I I'm just asking.

No, maybe it's like it's just yeah, maybe it's the dynamic of the race itself, but there is something I mean, the horse is the most beautiful thing ever created, isn't it really? Uh you know. I mean it's just Men, men, men get lost, but you know. Right? Females and horses. Uh glorious. Yeah. So this it's I was just really What a good podcast idea that would be. A good podcast idea would be. What is the most beautiful thing Yeah.

Ever created if you if you believe it was created by you know we probably have different views on how it came to be, but we'd still love to talk about what the most beautiful thing is in nature. Well yeah, or what started the thing that how it came to be, that's right, yeah. Why do you think horses are beautiful? I don't know. It must speak to values or something, is it isn't it? The speed. But even the beauty, the staidness, the height.

The slight the proportions maybe there like some golden ratio thing going on or something, I don't know. Maybe, yeah. Although of course it's which came first? Is it like, Oh, that's a perfect looking horse because I know what a horse looks like or is it does perfection look like or you know what I mean? Like Do I like to do it? Whoa, those horses are good. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Or it or it looks at an advac and goes, Whoa, there we go. That's pure advac.

That's hot. Ha ha ha. That's a double Aardbark, that is. Uh it would like walk up to the advac and go, You obviously ran this planet. Tell us about it. That's right.

So I delegate a lot of it to the sloth. Uh just quickly, we spoke about the Artemis mission. Um people were a little bit upset about our lack of knowledge about Greek mythology and Artemis, who it turns out is the twin sister of Apollo. Which adds more meaning to, you know, the the new moon missions being called.

Artemis. And also, yep. Uh uh late and also apparently, according to Armando Alvarez WF, uh in later Greek mythology she was considered the goddess of the moon. And also we've been told, Tim, unrelated to the moon. But the temple of Artemis was also one of the seven wonders of the ancient world, and Tim might be interested in knowing, it's mentioned in Acts of the Apostles nineteen, when the people who make statues at the temple riot against Paul for preaching to the Ephesians.

Because they fear that belief in one God will put them out of business. Oh right, okay. There you go. So they were making the gods. You don't get to call it a god if you're making it, I don't reckon. Like it Cool. Thank you for all that engagement, people. We appreciate you sharing. With us. Oh very uh very on br very uh corporate of you there, too. Oh yeah. Thank you for the engagement.

Ga oh yeah, no. That wasn't like engagement engagement. It's just like, you know, thanks for writing us a letter. Hmm.

Ideas for a podcast, Tim, I'm letting you go first because you've uh you've promised me a good one. I do I do have a good idea for a podcast. Mm-hmm. And I know that's I'm putting it out there and um that's bold of me. But look, I don't know the perfect I know you'll come up with a perfect name for this, but I'm calling it The list of lists. This is a podcast which explores and unpacks the greatest and most significant lists.

in history. And so I made a list of what I think are sort of fifteen sort of quintessential great lists in history that would that could be the first fifteen episodes of this podcast. Tell me fifteen great lists. Number one, the periodic table of elements. Man! Look at you! Yeah. On brand. Mr. Science. Mr. Science. I know I'm I just couldn't resist Okay. Okay. All right. And here's here's here's one for me. The Ten Commandments. Oh yes! There we go.

Yeah, th that that the list the most famous of lists? Is that the most famous list ever? Must be, must be. But there we go. There's Brady and Tim right at the top, number one and two. Number three is Schindler's list, of course. Get it out early. Okay. Yeah, all right. Famous. Elephant in the room. Yep.

Yep. Yep. From I'm not sure there's much of an order to the rest of them from here on, but I've got these are pretty classic lists that kind of have a sense of permanence about them. They're sort of, you know, sort of established. Um Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. When was that published? Or is that or do they re

Every now and then, every decade or so, right? So it's okay. But it's a special edition and it's referenced and of course much argued over. Many of these are. Yep. Another list that exists. Fortune 500 companies. Yep. Here I've got a bit more pop culture. The David Letterman top 10 list. But famously, I think that's a good thing Years and years, thirty years every night. You know?

Yeah, okay, so that's not one list, that's a collection in this in itself it's a collection of lists. But that's I see where you're going with that it's uh it's a but it was like a nightly event, so yeah, okay. It's a list that exists in the Zeitgeist, right? Yep. H here's another one that turns over daily almost, is the new or prime I imagine it's weekly, the New York Times bestseller list. Yes, good. Hugely referenced list, right? The seven habits of highly effective people. Very famous list.

Nice. Yes. I'm I'm just my head is spinning for the amount of preparation you've done for this match. I know. I mean I'm sure you just didn't use I'm sure you just used chat GPT, but I'm still brief. No way. Okay. Okay, good. All right. Yep. This is good man. This is good Uh Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Now this is I don't know that.

You know what I mean? It's kind of a list of of human desires and needs from from food and shelter all the way through to uh psychological needs and so forth. It's kind of I don't I was not sure about this because it sits within a framework, you know, that's kind of. But I thought with the periodic table, this is sort of in the same area. Yeah. Here's a controversial one that has a potential spin-off. Thank you. The alphabet. I like it.

I mean some of these are like sometimes we're blurring the line between collections and less I mean, is the periodic table a list?'Cause it's in table form and stuff. But if I'm going to allow the periodic table, which clearly I am, yeah, I'll give you the alphabet.'Cause it's also got an order. Yep. And like a defi uh uh an arbitrarily in some ways defined order. So, yep, okay. Yep.

Of course the subcategory for that, or not a subcategory rather, but if you're gonna allow that in, th that this would be sort of a bonus one is Numbers? Like The integers, so yeah, okay, yeah. I was thinking that already, yep. Um the Alcoholics Anonymous Twelve Steps famous list. Okay. Yep. Yep. It would be a good episode. Yeah, because I'm thinking of each one, is this a good episode? This is a Tim, this is a good podcast idea. Santa's list? Sort of exists in the Zeitgeist? Yeah.

Yeah. He's making a list, he's checking it twice. Yeah. And there's also a naughty list, isn't it, sometimes so that's Yeah. I was thinking about that actually because is Naughty and nice. Well that's it. He's gonna find out it's called naughty and nice. I was wondering is that yeah, is the list of nice people and if you're not on it you're naughty. Or is the naught is it a naughty list and if you're not on it you get a present, right?

Or is it one list and like if your name's in green you're nice and if your name's in red you're naughty? It could be one list in that way. Mm. The other thing that's contentious about it is it says he's checking it twice. Does that mean he's he's making a list and then he's checking it and then he's checking it again because he's checking it twice? Uh or is Or is the first check considered checking it twice? Like was he sort of checking it the first time when he made it?

Yeah. Or does he send it out to like and get externally audited or something like that? Well no, it says he he says he's checking it. It doesn't say he's having it checked. No, but is it like he's done he like his elves or something, you know? But it does say he's making a list. I wouldn't like it to think of it being delegated to a lesser being. And it says he's checking it. I mean he is supernatural, so I guess he can check his own work in some ways.

That's right. Look, if he can get around to all the houses on Christmas Eve, he can certainly devise a list throughout the whole year. I mean, that's easy pickings. If he's magical though, surely he got it right the first time, and surely one check after that would be enough. So yeah, that's right, checking it twice. Like but imagine if you're imagine if you found out that your name was on it like the first time he checked it, but then on the second time through, it's like, okay.

I'm putting Brady on the next time round. Yep, no, Brady should be there. And then the third time he reads it, he goes, Oh no, hang on. No, I'm taking Brady off. No, like imagine. that. You miss out on your skateboard because you read it through just one more time. It's like Yeah. He was naughty. It was naughty. Yeah. Um Number 13. Uh, this is a little bit more. Um, you may not know about this one, Martin Luther's 95 Theses. Now, do you know what this is?

No man. He only went to the toilet ninety five times in his whole life. It's not feces. The theses. Yeah. Uh this is this is a famous moment when uh Martin Luther, who's the founder of the Lutheran Church, went up to the church um and and and nailed a big thing on the Wittenberg door. About the door of the church, about the corruption in the Catholic Church. Um and you know, led to all sorts of reforms and stuff, yeah. Nice.

Kind of changed European history, but anyway, that's a famous, famous list. Yeah. Uh two two more to go. Number fourteen, the World Heritage List. Nice. You got list in the names, always a winner. Nice man. Yes. No, you can't argue with that, can you? Yeah. The and the last one is just a to-do list. Which is a different thing again. It's not a specific list. It's just a kind of list. It exists. But it exists in the zeit guys,'cause people say I'm putting it on the to do.

Okay. I mean that's the only one of the fifteen that you did as like a generic type of fist rather than a tetas. But but still I think in this podcast where each week you're looking for new angles and new things to talk about, then Yeah. It's good. Good idea. Good idea. Good idea, isn't it? I've pulled off a good idea. Yep. Yep. Can you think of any lists that I have not? No, I mean I can think of more, but I think you've picked a good bunch and I think we should

We should let people c contribute lists. So get in touch with us. Email, Reddit, Patreon, all the usual ways. Tell us some more lists that you think would be good episode fodder. I don't have to add anything to this man. This is this is i this is such a Good podcast. Each week you just talk about a different list, a different famous list. Uh the history behind it, how it came about, all that kind of stuff. The the title list of lists I don't know, I don't love it.

I I don't love it, but it's it's a good starting point and it has it's it's kinda self referential and it kinda works. I think it would work. I think it would work is the name. Mm. I mean obviously there are lots of lists, right? Like there are things like the list of all the US presidents, right? Things like that. Yeah, yeah.

List of all the Academy Award winners. I don't think they would count. I think the list I think the list has to be famous for being a list kind of in that way that the Ten Commandments are or um things like that. And I yeah, yeah. Or having list in the name or yeah. Th that's right. That's that's right. Like the Bill of Rights and things like that. You know, there's a particular list of things, of amendments and it's that kind of thing.

You could you can also go with when you with your last one, to-do lists, you could if you were gonna go into that generic genre, you can do things like uh bucket list. Uh blacklist. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I guess the the seven wonders of the world is a probably a Famous list. You'd probably do that and of the ancient world and all that kind of stuff. Ja. You could call it you could call it the list is life. No, I don't think that's a good idea.

From the Schindlers. That's the Tim name, is it for it? I I don't think yeah, not only is it a bad name, I don't think you should be riffing on uh the film Schindler's list for your for your phone. Probably. Yes. Yes, no, that's probably dangerous territory. Yeah. Well done, man. Well done. clean idea. Something our podcast needs every now and then, an unmade podcast idea. Because we do a lot of stuff and and I think this is it's important that we keep this main this is what people come for.

What about the list of all the ideas we've had on the Unmade Podcast? Oh yeah, yeah. Well that exists, doesn't it? That's I I always forget where that is, but it's in an Excel spreadsheet somewhere that you've sent me the link forty f there's a lit there's a list of the times you've sent me the link to that. Yeah. Okay. Well I think we can move on. I think we should just give you a pat on the back and say, Well done, man, let's move on. Yeah.

It's time to award a couple of of our famous medals, the Brady Heron medal and the Tim Hyne Medal. I mean it's probably no surprise these two murders we're about to give, but I think after the recent flurry of publicity around our big rocking horse music film clip and documentary, now is the time to be doing it. I'll go first because I'm gonna award a Brady Heron medal. Mm-hmm. Perhaps the more prestigious one do you think, Tim, or I don't know. Oh no!

The fact that it's going first is the sign that it's obviously the lead up to the big button. To the finale, to the m of the main show. They hand out best editing before best picture at the Oscars. So true. True. Uh uh the a Brady Hatter medal is being awarded to The creative genius, the composer, the performer of the very original Sofa shop, theme, jingle. It's Quentin Ayers. Yes, Quentin. Quentin. Wow. I feel like we should be standing. Yeah.

Yeah, from from from Q the Music, it's his business in the uh in Adelaide. Still going strong, still working, still doing Still lots of irons in the fire around Adelaide, but responsible for many of the most famous advertising jingles in Adelaide television history. None more important though than the Sofa Shop. Ian Adelaide. Tim was very busy this day unfortunately. Amazingly pure coincidence. It was the day we released

the music video, Rocking the Horse and I went to see him and presented him with the medal. You can watch a video if you like, but for those that don't want to watch the video, here's a bit of audio of the moment. I'm deeply honoured. To be uh immortalised in this way of having the sofa shop, a jingle that um was one of many that I did many years ago has achieved such a level of Fame, dare I say, notoriety around the world. And this recognition from the creators of the Unmade podcast.

is possibly um The crowning moment of my entire career. Thank you very much guys. Huge huge honor, huge honor. Yeah, yeah. Uh he can put that on the shelf along with his numerous Grammys and other musical awards, no doubt. Yes, that's right. Indeed, indeed. W were you were you nervous in seeing him again and handing over the medal? You know, it's a big moment. I mean, obviously I'm in the presence of greatness and I never forget that and take it for granted.

But he's such a professional, Quentin. He puts one at ease with his calm manner, his poise. His knowledge of guitars. He's uh you know, he he he made it easier for me than it could have been. Oh, that's great. He's he's one of those guys that looks at home behind a mixing desk. Mm. You know, when people walk into a there's there's two kinds of people, you know, one sort of person walks into a studio and says, Oh

You know, can you fly that or can you land a plane with that? The other kind of person leans over and starts twisting knobs and actually knows what's going on with them. Yeah. He's one of those guys, which is impressive in itself. He definitely knows how to twist a knob, no doubt. Now, the accompanying Tim Hine medal. Would you like to do the honors here, Tim? Well is there special music for mine? Like did you g we should get Quinton to compose something for mine?

Oh no, I've got we've got we've got Ed we've got we've got a we've already got a medal theme composed by Alan. Oh do we? Yeah. I played it I played it a second ago, unbeknownst to you. But uh let's let's let's play it again. Let's play it again now for the Tim Hine medal. Well it's it's an enormous honor um to bestow this uh incredible prize bearing my name. Common Scalsey. Voice of the sofa shop. We have a

Indeed, the voice of the sofa shop I mean if if if without him the sofa shop would have remained uh simply in, you know, Quinton's mind and heart and studio. But it was K Carmen who gave voice to the dream. Yeah. Come and drop in. Uh and that flowed out around the w uh Adelaide sound waves for, let's say, maybe a decade longer than it probably otherwise would have and just incredible. So

I tell you, I can't tell you how many times I meet someone and if I feel like there's a connection, I say, Do you know Carmen Scousy? And people go, Yeah, yeah, I know Carmen. Yeah. Субтитры сделал DimaTorzok He seems to have um tentacles everywhere in the Italian community around Adelaide. Certainly amongst uh w basically what I'm saying is when I meet someone who's Italian that sings, I say, Do you know and there's more of those in Adelaide than you could possibly believe. Yeah.

I say, do you know Carmen Scousy? And they go, Yeah, yeah, I know Carmen. Yeah, yeah. They would have been to fourteen weddings together and sang at half of them or something, you know. I like to think of Carmen as among Italian singers as kind of the godfather and he kind of just sits in a studio and other Italian singers come to him for advice and then they then they like then they like kiss his ring and he sings the sofa shop to them. That's right.

He's an Italian stallion. That's right. Song not a songstress, a songster. Songster. I also went and saw Carmen. The same day I saw Quentin, I drove straight from Quentin's studio to um out to see Carmen. Uh Tim misses again. Again, Tim was very busy with church meetings.

I feel like you've just sort of gone from, you know, you know, Paul McCartney's apartment across to Ringo Star's apartment or something like that. You know what I mean? And I just happened to be busy buying a hot dog or something. Yeah. Well that was you were you were fielding a lot of press inquiries that day because of our our music video. But I went and saw Carmen. Here's what he had to say. Absolutely a huge moment. Thanks so much and thanks to Tim too. Thank you for

Tim, Carmen's such a nice guy. I tried to get him to talk about the sofa shop and his medal and stuff like that. All he wanted to do was ask about me. How's your little boy? How's your wife? What's your wife doing? And he was asking such sincere and probing questions about my family. I was like does he know my family? Like he he he cared. Bordering on too much about my family. It was amazing. He was su he's such a kind, nice man and such a beautiful syrupy voice.

Wonderful voice, beautiful voice, fantastic voice. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. And he would be thrilled. He's up there with Michael Bolton as winners of the Tim Hine Medal. Yes. Um along with your wife Gylia. Who he cares about very much. There's a couple there's a real a real trinity of of beautiful voices there. Uh in in both in the spoken English annunciation and in the the be the beautiful crooning.

Uh it's it's you wonder if they'd record, you know, like the three tenors used to tour and record together. I wonder if we'll ever have Michael Bolton, Carmen Scousy, and Kylie Pentolo uh on stage. That would be amazing. That would be the biggest that would be the biggest trio since Hunter's. The Tim Hine Metal Trio.

Very quick spoon of the week. I'm not even gonna talk about these. I'm just gonna send them to you in the post, Tim. On my trip to Australia I acquired uh you can see pictures of these in the show notes and all the usual places, people. I acquired this big rocking horse spoon at the big rocking horse. It's a nice one. This isn't the one you've already got, is it? It is, yeah. On my unmade podcast shelf, I have it there. Oh yeah, but that's the one I gave you, isn't it? Yeah. That's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah. That's not the old one. No. No, no. The other one we've got didn't have the white and red on it, yeah. So see our pages and notes and all that for the latest incarnation of the big rocking horse spoon. It's a nice one. And Tim also when I was in Perth I went to the top of this big bell tower they have in the middle of Perth. It's quite a cool little tour you can do and I rang some bells and had a look around. I really enjoyed it. And I and I bought a like a

a spoon of that bell tower. There it is. Oh well. Picture in the notes. I'll send it over to you, you can add it to the collection. Man, have you told people about the the the new cards, the the British Racing Green wild cards? Have you have you announced anything about that?

Let's let's come to that in a second actually. That's a good point, because there is there is some card news. It's big card news actually. Massive card news. Uh but let's do it in the context of prizes because we're gonna quickly dole out some prizes to Patreon supporters.

Support us on Patreon people. Not only do you win amazing prizes, uh, you get bonus content like the request room and all sorts of extra stuff are posting. I did a little video touring in Tim's office the other day when I was there. Mm-hmm. That's gonna be a Patreon bonus.

in the next few weeks. So there's all sorts of like little bonus videos and things you get, as well as the ability to win prizes. Quickly, prizes. So when I was at the Big Rocking Horse, I bought these like I don't even know what they are. They're like these wooden

flat ornaments with pictures of the big rocking horse on them. Yeah. But they were flat and they looked easy to post. So I bought a bunch of them. Uh and Tim has autographed them so to to commemorate his performance atop the big rocking horse. So you can have a autograph Rocking horse. from Tim. Uh I will sign them too if you want. Uh but at the moment I've left them just Tim'cause that's makes it a bit more rock and roll. No one wants like the guy who did the editing.

to sign their merge. You you don't you don't no. No. No. So uh you just want Tim. Um so uh four people have been selected as winners. They come from our three dollar and above tier. It was a s cause it's a special, special prize.

If you are one of these four people, you must contact me either via the Patreon web page, like just in the comments or somewhere, to say I want my price. I don't want to mail these and go to all the trouble and the expense of mailing them to people that don't even want them. So contact me if you want to. If you don't, that's fine too. Mm-hmm. Robert D. from Marylands in Australia. Felix from Edinburgh here in the UK. Geordie from Sweden.

Valingbi. Valingbi I think is where you're from. And Yakin from Quebec. You are the first four people that will be sent these things. If I don't hear from you in a few weeks, I'll send them to someone else. But get in touch. Congratulations, everybody. More prizes. We're gonna send out collector cards. Now

Our Spoon of the Week collector cards have gone kind of crazy, man. Obviously we had the original twenty-three and the set has now expanded to a hundred. Yep. We also have special edition cards. that are rarely sprinkled among the packs. These are British Racing Green additions. These are sort of like the original cards, but in a British racing green trim in honor of Tim's favourite colour. And they have different pictures and bonus content on them. They're like

They're special. And I just love the idea of someone opening their pack and getting that little glint of green and going, Oh, I got a British Racing Green edition. Special. Special. Amazing. Amazing. And now also sprinkled among the decks even more rarely there are special gold edition cards autographed by Tim and I. This is like the golden ticket. This is your Willy Wonka card. They're they're rare, but they are in packs, so keep on the lookout.

Massive, massive. That's all out there. You've done an incredible job with these. These are just really so handsome, so beautiful. Have we told people about the the the leather holders yet? Is that like I can't remember. I've made some mention of it on Patreon, but I'm holding that back a bit'cause I'm not quite I haven't quite got my own my own head around that yet. But yeah. Still a bit overwhelmed by your own achievements.

I am. So packs go out as prizes and occasionally there are sales and we're we're gonna keep sprinkling them out there for people. But today I've put together a special twenty card pack. That also has a chance of having green cards and the gold card in it. There are five of these packs that are going out to people. Again, you must get in touch with me if you want to claim it.

I'm not gonna s I'm not gonna pay to send twenty of these precious cards out to people that don't want them. Just just a comment or an email or anything, Patreon. Just say, Yeah, Brady, send it over. Uh the first two are algorithmically biased towards more loyal supporters. The next three are completely random. Uh Bruce from Washington State, who I know is a big collector of the cards. So I was very Oh really? I was very happy when I saw Bruce's name come up. Bruce, you've got one coming.

Jacob L in Minnesota, Bass M in the Netherlands. Hugo in Oslo. Hugo, I'm going to Oslo next week. Hugo, if you get in touch with me this week or very soon, uh, I will I will give you your pack in person'cause I'm going to be in Oslo. Wow. Otherwise I will uh mail it to you. And Tim L in New Zealand. Blenheim, New Zealand. There you go. Congratulations, everybody. Fantastic. This card thing is so exciting to me.

Then I'm like dealing them into like random packs to send to people and then I I I do it all like very I'm very strict about using like random number generators and stuff to decide who gets like the bonus cards and and then I shuffle things so I don't actually know who's getting what.

Uh. But w as I place like a signed gold card into one of the packs, I'm like f I'm feeling the excitement of the person who's gonna open that pack one day and see a signed card, like it moves me, man. It moves me. No.

Uh, do you want a quick idea from me for a podcast? I'll keep it quick. I do, I do. Come on here. Come on. I deliberately picked one of my not so good ones because I knew you had a good one coming. Well you thought you did. And we had lots of other stuff to talk about. So this is one of my burners, okay? This is a burner idea. Yep. You know how we have the Summer Olympic? We do. And we have the Winter Olympics. Yes, we do. Yes. We don't have the autumn or the spring Olympics.

So my idea Ha ha ha. Why didn't I think of this? Brilliant. My idea. is to launch the autumn and the spring Olympics and to make it into a podcast is is we pitch sports or people pitch sports that they should think should be included in my Olympics, my autumn and my spring Olympics. Brilliant idea. Brilliant. Love it.

So my criteria, my idea for a criteria, I'm open to a better idea, but let's just go with what I've done. Yeah. To get into the autumn Olympics, because the autumn by our North American friends is called the fall. Mm-hmm. Sports that are in the autumn Olympics have to involve falling of some sort. Right. And sports that are in the Spring Olympics have to involve springing or jumping in some way. Right, okay.

So there's going to be a degree of poaching existing sports from the summer and the winter Olympics and placing them into my autumn and spring Olympics.

And also some pitching of new sports that don't already exist in the Olympics. Which seems to be a uh shrinking market now as more and more weird sports get included in the Olympics, but let's do it. Can I give you some ideas of some sports that I think might be pitched for these Please go ahead and then I have some of I have a few that have come to mind that I thought could be um Yeah. Sports. Well let's go with the Autumn Olympics, the fall Olympics. Hmm.

There's some obvious ones. Diving. Skydiving. Base jumping. Skateboarding. Skateboarders seem to fall over a lot. Snowboarding. Snowboarders are forever falling. Yeah. Judo and wrestling both involve falling really as a part of the sport. Then I s went a bit outside the box. How about rodeo bull riding? Mm-hmm. Parkour. Uh a bit They they would argue that this this springing, but we all know it's all falling.

Yeah, yeah, there is there is some crossover. Uh pillow fighting. Maybe you could have some people on like a greased pole like whacking each other with pillows to see who's gonna fall off. So that would be the fall Olympics, the autumn Olympics. I'm sure that the IOC's gonna listen to this and pinch my ideas. Uh they'd love more Olympics, wouldn't they? Because they haven't got this money. Yeah.

Uh the Spring Olympics. Obviously high jump, long jump, triple jump, pole vault. Equestrian, I always think of as involving a lot of jumping. Trampolining. And then I'd like some sort of sport involving like stunts and cars and things going over ramps. Oh yeah. What else have I got here? What about like ejector seating and stuff? Like who can eject out of a you know, car or a a a you know, like an aircraft the highest?

Rocket building rockets, building like water rockets and things like that and seeing who's can go the highest. Yeah. Uh yeah. So anyway, that that's my idea. Autumn and spring Olympics, pitching sports to go into these new Olympics that are going to be launched by the IOC in the next ten years or so. I I uh well that's a good list and that's a very good idea. I'm I'm thinking something that's more in the spirit of those seasons. So like for autumn, like I I would go with like um leaf raking.

You know, like ra who can rake up leaves? A lot quicker. Okay, okay. Yeah. I like that sort of idea. The Spring Olympics would have that be cleaning and things like that in the spring. Well yeah, or or like, you know, um what happens in the spring? Like you give birth, like animals give birth. Giving birth is an Olympic sport. I like I like it now. I like it. That's right.

Or like, you know, gathering flowers that have come into bloom. So there could be like a whole florist kind of part of the spot. Yes, calfing like you've got to pull the calf out, you know, help who gets it out as quick as they can when you've got when the vet's involved. Okay. So I like that kind of stuff that really gets into the something involving insects and bees and spreading pollen, that kind of thing. That's very springish. Clothes rearranging? Yes. Spring cleaning.

That's great. Great. Yeah. Going out through your whole house and doing a massive spring clean. Huh? Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah. And I think there's a lot to be said like for autumn. There's a lot to be said with like, you know, like snuggling up with a book and a nice warm jumper or Oh yes, very, very competitive Olympic sport there, man. Yeah, that's right. That's the kind of thing who can sort of get the most comfortable and snuggish with a bit of jazz music playing and a good book.

Here's the Olympic gold medalist in snuggling. Yeah. Like it could be in romantic comedy ink,'cause you know how they always have a scene, you know, in autumn in in New York, you know, that sort of upper west siding. Yeah. Tom Hanks would clean up at the Autumn Olympics. Buying stationery. Wearing comforting sweaters. Comfy sweats, that's right, going oh it's a bit chilly out, I'll put a just a nice comfy jumper on. Knitting? Yeah. Knitting, yes, very good.

Scarf, yeah, long scarves, who can do them the quickest. Yeah. That's a lot of autumn stuff. Folk music I associate as well. So maybe there could be L you know, record buying. Yeah. That could be that'd be good to it could be literally be a world record. For like record purchasing and playing. Spring Olympics could have the moth bowling, where you have to take a whole bunch of woolen jumpers and fold them up and put them in a drawer with moth bowls the quickest.

This is a great idea. What sort of things would I can you can just picture the opening ceremonies of each of them, can't you? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. The Spring Olympics would have like lots of chickens being let out onto the arena like a tommy. There wouldn't be death No dubs, they'd just be Ducklings. Chicklets. Chicks. Just crossing the road. Crossing what's the ducklings crossing the track? And it'd just be wonderful. The runners stopping for the ducklings. Mm. Out of respect.

Would the would the autumn Olympics involve like having a massive massive pile of dry leaves and setting them on fire with the torch? Yeah, yeah. Kids just laying down in them and doing that angel thing with their arms and legs. Yeah. Oh, that'd be beautiful. That'd bring world peace. Look, imagine the camera above looking at a whole arena of of dried leaves and angels. Wonderful. So there we go. There's there's certainly a lot there the IOC can work with.

And um if you with enough money in a paper bag, you'd you'd you'd get it up, I reckon. Good idea, man. Good idea. Just a small cut to the Unmade podcast for coming up with the idea for you guys. That's right. That's right. Yeah. I got another typewriter box. Shall we retire to the request room where patrons can hear us talk some more if if you haven't had enough? Yes. Nice. Welcome. All right. Let's do it. See you there. Thanks everyone. Request room. Go to Patreon. Join up. We need your help.

That's another list, our list of patron supporters. Brilliant. That's the ultimate list. The list is that is the list the list is like. That is the list of the that is we haven't done one of those uh things lately where we read all their names. Remember we used to do those occasionally? We should do one of those again, so we should do one of those. It's nice. You could put all their names in a song, one epic song, and just read them out. That would be pr special. That would be special.

We didn't start the fire, but it's their names. Oh, yeah. It'd be Bruce and Colonel Katrina. You'd have one whole verse that's just Wesley's. It's wrong. All right. I'm gonna work on that. All right. Good luck with that.