159: Purple Cars and Ninjas

And away we go. Are you a nails painter today? Have you had a nail painting time recently? I have. Both daughters have a go, but one of them in particular loves it, loves to do it. So I give them one hand, my left hand. When was that done? About five or four or five days ago. So does that mean you had painted nails for church on Sunday? Oh, yeah, yeah.

I did job interviews for new positions and stuff last week with them on, and also I just do it all the time. To be honest, I quite like it. I think it's kind of a quirky little thing, but it's there because my daughters are always asking to do it. Have you ever painted your nails like just... Of your own volition on your own? No, I have never painted my nails. Okay, just checking. No. Have you? I'm sure I've done it, like, for fun. Like-

like with a girlfriend or something like, you know, but I've done the painting like for fun, but I've never just on my own bought some nail polish and painted them. Right. Yeah. A lot of that action goes on in our house. There's a lot of nail work going on.

I'm always nervous about the nail polish remover and how it's always sort of... perched with the lid off on the side of the couch or somewhere that to me looks too precarious but they're always it's fine dad and it's generally fine but i just know that i would Generally, yeah. I'm sure there are incidences that I don't hear about. I always find it difficult when my wife has her nails done, which she does a lot, and I'm asked for my opinion. What do you think? And I don't really have an opinion.

They're just like, yeah, they're nails that are painted. Like, yeah, they're good. Like, they're not bad. I don't have a negative opinion. But I don't really have anything constructive to say. Like, I can't really turn it into a conversation. I'm a little bit the same. Part of the flaw is that I have a very short vocabulary when it comes to colours. So I'll say, oh, green or blue, and I'll be informed, Dad, that's deep sky.

It's ocean green or something. Yeah. I also disagree with my wife a lot about colours. Like, things that I think are black, she says are blue. You know, that's a common one. Like, oh, I like those blue jeans. They're not blue, they're black. Huh? Huh?

Is there any- Do you have like a neutral light that's like the judge that you go, well, let's go and have a look under this light and that'll determine if it's truly blue or black? No, I haven't done that. You just cave in, don't you, and go, yeah, well.

Well, yeah, I'm probably wrong. I usually am. In the last episode, I was called away from the microphone for a good... Five to ten minutes due to a sick baby. Oh, yes. And Tim was left alone with a guitar and the microphone. And the recorder was rolling. And we released that footage and audio to the Patreon supporters. And, Tim, it went down a storm. Did it really? Let me read some of the reviews. T-Hate said...

Pure gold. Chris said, this song slaps. Thanks, Tim. Michael said, please release a single of the Standing on the Threshold part. It was kinda shooting. I know what slaps means. I don't think I've ever heard shooting. Is that a thing? Are you sure these are positive reviews? None of them sound- None of them sound particularly polite. Slapping and shooting and- I know slaps is good, but I didn't know shooting. So if they're going to say, shut up, Tim, which is going to mean apparently-

Keep going, Tim. But, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That sucked, man. Keep it up. This is the use of the first when Michael Jackson brought out his album bad, but actually he meant good. That was a whole new era. And I don't feel like we've flipped back. From irony since then. Everything's wicked. Yeah. So anyway, well done, Tim, on your slapping music. Went down well. You can still go and listen to it and have a watch if you're a Patreon supporter or you sign up to be one.

Patreon.com slash Unmade FM. It's really important. As you know, we don't have ads in the show. It's sort of existential that we have a bit of Patreon support to keep the show going. So do consider it. And we always make sure there's lots of great bonus material, including the request room, which we'll be recording later. Oh, that's good. I'll keep that song. I'll do something with it. In fact- All right, we've slapped, man. That's a segue to my idea, but do you want to do-

Let's just keep going with parish news. Don't worry. We'll come around to it later. Yeah, let's get the parish narratives done. Let's not do the thing we're here to do. Otherwise, people might get confused if we start actually doing podcast ideas. I don't want to promise it's a corker idea, but... I'm willing to say it's an idea. All right. Tim's podcast idea is coming soon. But first, last episode, we talked about all sorts of things and we-

A real theme of the episode, though, was medical emergencies. Tim had had his... his overdose or his problem with his antihistamine or whatever it was when he got stung by a jellyfish, which someone actually wrote in and said they think you actually got stoned, Tim. There's a certain medication if you take too much of it, you actually just got stoned. That was the problem. Oh, right, okay. Now that sounds like a medical term. Thank you for that. That slaps when you get stoned. But anyway.

I had had work done on my shoulder. My little boy was sick. And we asked people, have you ever been sick or gotten sick or been in hospital and things while listening to the podcast? And we have heard from some people. Can I share some? Oh, yeah. Like, this is- While they're listening to it, they've been sick or they've put it on for comfort as they recover. I'll share. I'll share the stories. Okay. I don't think recovery counts, though. No. That would be too- Yeah. But-

Kuivda told us, quite coincidentally, I'm listening to the podcast from hospital. Like now. A ladder I was standing on fell, and so I fell with it. Hit my hip such that I broke the top of my femur and I'm now waiting for a total hip replacement. Luckily, I have Tim and Brady to listen to. I guess that is kind of a recovery listen that I said doesn't count, but...

So she didn't fall while she was listening to the podcast. I don't know if it's a she. I don't know if Kuivda is a she. Oh, sorry. It's just Kuivda. It could be. Could be. Like we're not to blame for the hip is what I'm saying. No, no, no. I don't think Kuivta was listening when the fall happened. Right. But they happened to be listening to the medical episode while recovering. Oh, okay. While waiting for their operation. All right. Fair enough.

True 2339, I did have a semi-medical emergency listening to the podcast. Back in the late summer of 2021, I got my first COVID vaccine in a big gymnasium, which was quite warm because of the many people and the temperature outside. And they had no air conditioning, just two open doors to alleviate the heat and stuffiness. When it was my turn.

I told the nurse that I don't like needles and it all went fine and she was quite nice about it. So after getting my vaccine, I popped in my headphones, started the podcast and went to the area where you have to sit for 15 minutes to make sure you don't get an allergic reaction. But whilst reaching for a water bottle in my backpack, the sound of the podcast in my ears got quieter. I managed to think, huh, that's weird.

And next thing I knew, I woke up on the floor. I'd fallen off the chair and the nurse was lightly shaking me and telling me, it seems you fainted. I'd never fainted before, so it was quite a weird sensation. Luckily, the nurse got me on a stretcher in a back room, gave me some apple juice, and I was all right again. She summed it to being the heat, my anxiety of needles, and not having eaten any breakfast before going.

So, yeah, I fainted while listening to Tim and Brady talking on the podcast. I mean, it could have been us that made you faint. Well, yeah, gosh. The fading audio could have been Tim just mucking up his audacity settings. That's true. That's true. I'm sure millions of people have fallen asleep while we've been talking. People listen to podcasts going to sleep. Yeah. But fainting's a whole other experience, isn't it? That's next level. Yeah. Have you ever fainted?

Yes, I fainted in primary school at our assembly once, and I distinctly remember it, standing in line and we're like, saluting the flag or saying that thing we used to say at school. And the principal's up the front. This is all outside in, like, the quadrangle. And then I suddenly stepped. You know, here, always getting told, stand up straight, don't, you know, be in line. And I was.

stepping forward and back and forward and back, and I was going, oh, dear, I'm really out of line here. I'm getting into real trouble. And the teacher came up, and I thought they were just going to grab me by the shoulders and make me stand, but they grabbed me and picked me up in – His arms? Her arms? I can't quite remember. I think her arms. And carried me into the vice principal's office and lay me on the ground. I put my feet on a chair.

Yeah, it was like he was fainting and I was like, oh, wow, I was fainting. It happened for real. I wasn't doing something naughty. Wow. I remember that vividly except for the gender of the teacher. Yeah. It was Kawivda. That's right. That's right. I just can't. That's right. Yeah. What about you? Have you fainted? I have never fainted, I don't think. But-

My first like proper girlfriend, like adult girlfriend, who I took around to my mother's house to meet her. As soon as she went in the house, my mother came walking down the stairs. This girl fainted. She just fainted. there on the floor. I don't remember this. She'd never fainted before. I'd never seen her faint before. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my goodness, are you all right? And we got her up and she was all right, but she just fainted. And then my several years later.

I had another girlfriend, you know, proper girlfriend, who I took around to meet my mum. We went round to the house, went in the front door. My mum came out to meet her. This one fainted as well. Exactly. It's almost exactly the same spot. Exactly the same way. Back to back girlfriends fainted like meeting my mum. I don't know if it's my mum's incredible presence.

Is there some incense in the house that made them faint? When I took the third one to go around, I had to say, look, I'm just going to warn you. My previous two girlfriends. This one managed to stay on her feet. Number three passed. I mean, your mother is a formidable woman, but that is really quite a coincidence. There's something about you taking a girl over the threshold into a home that makes them faint. It's an overwhelming experience. Gosh. Yeah. That is quite something.

We have here another medical story. Here's Guan Marvin. A while ago, I was listening to the podcast on my way back from drinking with friends. I had a few drinks too much. and it was slippery, so I fell from my bicycle. No hospital visit necessary, but I did have a messed up shoulder and a few broken teeth that the dentist had to replace the next day. That actually sounds really serious to me.

It does, yeah. They're saying, oh, it's okay, no hospital visit. But they had, like, broken teeth and a messed up shoulder. Ouch. What does it take to make you go to the hospital, Guan? Look, I do. Broken teeth, that's not something that's going to grow back in time by itself. No.

No. I mean, they went to the dentist. I do think the alcohol may have been a greater causal factor than the podcast on this occasion, though. Yes, yes. I'm not taking responsibility for that if you're out on the booze. No. No, teeth cost a fortune. Yeah, there you go. Be careful, people. If you're listening to the podcast right now, be careful.

Especially if you're driving in a car and we get to like, maybe it's a moon of the week episode and you reach forward to fast forward. Don't while you're driving, pull over safely, then fast forward and then keep.

Driving. And if my mum's in the passenger seat next to you, be really careful. Now, another thing we spoke about last episode, Tim, I'm sure you remember, was... movie clips or TV clips or pieces of video on things like YouTube that we go back to all the time just for like...

an emotional hit, like, you know, to make you cry or to make you happy or just to give you that emotional something. I'm not talking about, like, you know, great pieces of filmmaking and stuff. I'm just talking about things that give you, that stir you, that move you. We gave a few examples and we encouraged other people to get in touch. Little glimpse-y moments, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Tim kind of implied it's cheating a little bit to go to the, you know, the emotional payoff, the emotional end of the movie without watching the movie. But that's all I do these days. I have to say last night I was watching, I was looking at something on YouTube and then- The little snippet, the classic moment from A Few Good Men came up in the courtroom and I watched that through. There's about four minutes there and it's just like, that's gold.

That's cool. He walks right into it. I've probably watched that 10 times since the last episode. I literally watched it 20 minutes ago while I was preparing for this episode. Are you serious? Because it gets recommended to me a lot. And when it's there, I'm like, oh, well, I may as well watch it. Yeah, anyway, I thought of many more afterwards, but it's not about us, Tim. This is about the civilians, and I've heard from a few of them. Here's Gua, who says...

I always go back to this scene from Star Trek First Contact. It's one of my absolute favourite movies of all time. And the scene they sent is the one where the Vulcans actually come and make first contact with humans. Tim probably doesn't know that. film or that clip but I am familiar with it live long and prosper I'm aware of Vulcans I'm aware of Star Trek I've seen a few of them but I don't remember

So they weren't commonly involved, like they didn't talk a lot, did they? They weren't friends, Vulcans and the humans? No, the Vulcans were good. Mr Spock is half Vulcan. Oh. Pointy ears are the Vulcans. All right. Okay. Mr. Spock is a half awkward. So anyway, I am familiar with the scene. And just for people who are, I'm just going to say this, Gua. You're not going to like me saying it because it's one of your favorite clips. I don't like that clip.

I don't like the way Star Trek portrayed first contact between humans and other. Alien Civilisation. I thought it treated it too comically. It was too glib. It was too silly. It wasn't momentous enough for my liking. And that's my opinion on that clip. But I like that you like it. Wow. Sorry to... Piss on your chips, as we say in the UK. Nice. Is this one of those Star Trek movies that was made in, like, the 70s and 80s that are a bit crap or one of the ones from the 90s? I think it's...

Probably 90s. It's like the, you know, Patrick Stewart next generation Star Trek people movies. Right. Yeah. And what happens is they go back in time to- Like, you know, around now. I think it's some, like, the 2030s or something. And they actually sort of put- Back to the Future style, they kind of put their thumb on the scale a little bit with a-

first contact between humans and aliens. But then they show this moment, this momentous moment in human history, and they're kind of watching from the side from far in the future. Anyway, we're getting way too nerdy. Let me go on to some more people here. Yes, indeed.

Or too nerdy about the wrong thing. Dave Matthews got in touch. Dave Matthews? I don't think it's that Dave Matthews. It's a Dave Matthews. With quite a long list, I have a few movie clips I always cycle back to. For badass, I like. The docking from Interstellar combined with the fantastic soundtrack.

I agree with that one. That's a great scene in Interstellar. I'm assuming you mean the docking with Matt Damon and when it all goes pear-shaped, but that's a great scene. And then Matthew McConaughey has to do his own docking to save the day. Great scene. Great scene. Great movie, Interstellar. Great movie. Love it. Dave Matthews mentions lots of things. I'm not going to read all of them. But for amazing music and perhaps my top pick for Tim, The Guitar Duel from Crossroads.

Are you familiar with that? Yeah, yeah. Blues and stuff. Eric Clapton. There's a song. Yeah, yeah. I watched that scene thinking, oh, I'll have a look at this because Dave Matthews included the link. And I didn't dig it, but I didn't know the film, so I had no context. They also mention the learning to fly scene from How to Train Your Dragon.

It's got some good music. Yeah. And for emotional fixes, Dave recommends too many scenes from Forrest Gump, but meeting Forrest Jr. for the first time is one of my favourites. That is a very lovely scene. Yeah. The speech from Secondhand Lions, which I wasn't familiar with. And My Name is Inigo Montoya from The Princess Bride. And there are far too many Lord of the Rings clips to even link. So there you go, Dave. A long list.

Dave's busy. Basically, him going back to scenes is basically like it would take you. There are so many of them. It's not really going back very often, is it? No. And Al Flying sent us a long list. I'll just mention some. Finding Nemo, where Nemo, Marlon and Dory are guiding the fish in the net to work together and keep swimming down to overpower the boat.

Yep. I love Finding Nemo. And that's a good scene, but my Finding Nemo scene that always gets me is the very end when he's going off to school, but he comes back and tells his daddy loves him. I love that. Love it. Oh, Mr. A, wait, I forgot something. I love you, Dad. I love you too, son. I love that. The bit that I quote the most is about the shark when the guy goes, sorry about Bruce, mate. I love that.

Bruce the shark. And also An Hour of Flying mentions Inside Out where sadness is allowed to take control and Riley returns to her parents. I know Tim loves that. That's legendary. In fact, I use that in my book. I was just totally- wiped out at that moment. I was in tears. Magnificent. Sadness takes control. I was watching that film this morning because my little boy loves it.

Oh, right. Loves it already. That's great. He loves both inside-out movies. Obviously, he doesn't understand the nuance of what's going on inside the head and everything, but he loves both storylines. He likes the real life, Riley, and he likes the... Colourful characters in the head. Oh, that's lovely. And then as he gets older, the penny will drop on the deeper meanings and stuff. I got in touch with a long list as well. Things that were mentioned were the movie After Sun.

Whenever I miss spending time with a parent. Lost in translation if I'm feeling alone. And the Gilmore Girls if I'm happy about it. The first song from Up is quite soppy for me. Yeah. And so is the sad scene in Jojo Rabbit. I don't know the Jojo Rabbit one, but obviously the start to up is a classic piece of filmmaking. Very moving. You know, Jojo Rabbit, I haven't seen-

The rest of, I saw the first part of it and I was really enjoying it. Like, this is a great movie. And then I got a text. I was interstate in Melbourne and a text from a mate saying, do you want to catch up? And because I was just there for one night, I'm like, well, I'm not seeing a movie when I can catch up with my friend. And so I left them.

movie cinema about a third of the way in and went off and had a drink and caught up with my friend. And I've never gone back and seen the rest of the movie, even though I was really enjoying it. I must do that. I must write that down. Happy things I revisit are Knives Out, Cars One, except the one sad song, Sound of Music, Perfect Days. My wife loves lots of the songs from Sound of Music, so we go back and watch them a lot as clips. Yeah.

If you were going to go and watch one song from The Sound of Music as a clip, what would it be right now? My favourite scene in it is the love scene at the end. You can't marry someone if you're in love with someone else, can you? She says, no. And then... The Reverend Mother says, whenever the door closes the door, he opens a window. And then he says my favourite line. He says, what else does the Reverend Mother say? She says, you have to look for your life. And then.

It gets me every time. I love it. It's beautiful. Yeah, I love that. It's so romantic. It's lovely. They're coming together. It's like they're adults. It's just a marvellous scene. I love it. What else does the Reverend Mother say? Do you feel sorry for the Baroness in that film?

No. She kind of gets done over a bit, doesn't she? She's not like a bad person. No, she's superficial, though. And she's not really interested in the kids. She doesn't want the family. She just wants him. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Kai says, I just listened to the latest episode and wanted to share a clip from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia that I watch when I feel the need to cry. It never fails me.

The scene is when Mac, a main character that has struggled with his sexuality over the seasons, comes out to his dad who is in prison via interpretive dance. At the start, it comes off as hilarious. I mean, the set-up alone is funny, but by the end... I'm in tears. A film I haven't seen for a long time that I watched obsessively is Dead Poets Society. Oh, God, what a film. I know, what a wonderful film. And I won't say the line from the great moment because...

It's so old enough, though, that a lot of people may not have actually seen it. But go back and watch the film Dead Poets Society. I need to re-watch that. It's been a long time. Captain my captain. Yes, thank you, Brady. That's not spoiling it. No, it's not, actually, is it? No, it's not. Out of context, of course, it isn't. Thank you, boys. Seize the day. Chaz says, I work for a school district in Nevada.

With all that's going on, I watched the education is the silver bullet clip from the West Wing to remind myself why we do what we do. That's a good line. I often think about that. We know education can be the silver bullet. Schools should be palaces or cathedrals. Do you know what? I just watched that scene back to remind myself. It's obviously delivered by Sam Seaborn, a character played by Rob Lowe. And there are many, many scenes in the West Wing I love.

And I love the West Wing. But that little bit, watching it back, came across a little cheesy, a little, just a little bit too much cheese, a little bit too contrived. Not sure. Not sure. I still dig it. Education is the silver bullet. Education is everything. I wasn't actually thinking of that point. I was thinking there's another time when...

President Bartlett is critiquing his opponent. I can't remember his name in the first election campaign. Richie. Richie, that's right. He's up against Richie. Governor Richie. Yeah, and he's talking about how Richie's having a go. And I think he has a go to Richie or to someone else saying, you know, you shouldn't be lowbrowing.

education and people who have studied, especially when we know that education can be the silver bullet. You know, it can be the thing that lifts women out of poverty and lifts people out of poverty. This seems when Sam's- impresses Mallory because Mallory thinks he's against school vouchers because he's just argued and then she realises he's not and he does his little monologue about how important schools are and she looks at him all doe-eyed.

Yeah. Not just that he's incredibly handsome, but he also is, like, pro-education and stuff like that. But that whole Sam and Mallory storyline just never went anywhere, did it? You stood there and argued with me. We can continue the argument, but it's lunchtime now. We're going to have lunch. No, no. There's a few things in the West Wing that just didn't go anywhere. Yeah. No, she just disappeared.

She probably dodged a bullet there. He's working crazy hours. And then he ends up running for Congress. She dodged a silver bullet. That's right. He runs for Congress. I never knew why he didn't just come back after that. But he goes off and works for his big... wealthy law firm again and is going to marry someone else. And it's like he just slips. It's like without Josh around like in his ear about, you know, motivating him.

Sam just glides back into the comfort sort of rich lifestyle. I mean, so much for, you know, the working poor and education and all that stuff. Well, it's actually that Rob Lowe didn't want to be in the West Wing anymore because he was throwing his toys out of the pram because he thought he was going to be the big star of the show.

Well, that's true. That's the real story, yeah. He comes back at the end. There's a bit of redemption, so that's not it. Yeah, we get him at the end. I tell you, he wears a good shirt, Rob Lowe. He does. He does. He wears a white shirt like no man on earth. No, there's one man that wears it better. I'm sure I've told this story. When I used to work for News Corporation, one day Lachlan Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch's son, came in to...

do a tour of the building and have a look around. And then he came into the news floor where we were working to give like a speech to the troops, you know, keep up the good work and all that sort of stuff. He had like his little posse of- men in suits around him, but he was the big deal. And he was wearing just a business shirt and a tie. And I've never seen a white shirt look better on a man than that. Like, it just looked like he was-

It just looked like it belonged on him. And it made me realise when you have lots and lots of money to get tailored shirts, you can actually have shirts look really good. I just couldn't believe how good he looked just wearing a white shirt. This was when he was in great shape as well, and he was at...

Peak handsomeness. Yeah, yeah. So all the women on the news floor were like, you know, swooning. God, that shirt looked good on him. It was amazing. Did it have a French cuff or did it have, you know, shiny? Or was it just like it was- Well cut. I wouldn't have had a clue, man. I was just wearing some crappy shirt from Roger David. Yeah, yeah. And I was like just looking at his going, oh, wow, that's a shirt.

I couldn't tell you why it was good. If you said, why does it look good, Brady? Talk me through why it looked better than your shirt. I don't have the knowledge or the vocabulary or anything. It just looked good. That's like, why can't a shirt look like that on me? Yeah. Did you think about asking a question? Like he's there announcing the future of the newspaper. You put up your hand and you go, can I just ask?

And I say this with an unblemished record of heterosexuality. You look fabulous. Yeah. Anyway.

ideas for a podcast tim you promised us one You go first. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, listen, the day that we're recording this is the 1st of April in, well, in Adelaide. It's not yet the 1st of April where you are. But that means, of course, that all morning- It is the 1st of April here, man. It is. How is it the first of April there already? It's the first of April in the morning. Whereas for you, it's the first of April at night. Yeah. Silly me, because we've got to the end of the day.

I'm still in the April Fool's zone because it's before midday you're allowed to trick people, aren't you? So I'm still allowed to be tricked. So go easy on me. I will go easy on you. But look, I actually pulled a prank on my... staff this morning actually at our meeting I hadn't planned to but I was in the middle and I of the meeting and I suddenly looked down the agenda and I suddenly remembered oh it's April Fool's Day what can I do here I've got to do something and we've been doing like

hiring people and letting people know what's happening with this position and that position and all good news and stuff and then I got to the end and I said look you know how I wrote a song recently And they were aware that I'd written a song and we were going to do it in church and stuff.

And I said, well, actually, I sent it to a friend of mine in the UK who does like Christian music sort of stuff professionally. And you know what? He was really impressed. And they're sort of nodding along, you know. I guess it's the boss. So they're going, oh, yeah, this is good.

No actual comment about the song. I said, well, I actually sent a few more demos that I've been working on, and he likes them as well. In fact, he really likes them and did a bit of work with them, and we've been going back and forward. And he's really excited when there's a bit of traction. And so he's invited me to come over in July and spend a month songwriting together. And they're all looking at me like nodding with their eyebrows up like.

cool, that's great, and all the rest of it. And I said, and then we've been talking about that, and if that goes well, he's actually got a house. near where he stays, near his studio, and I'm going to be going over and... He's got a position for me to start next year and I'm going to be songwriting with him and then playing guitar and performing across Europe. So I'm actually going to be resigning and finishing up here at the church.

And at that point, a couple... This isn't the first time Tim's announced this, of course. And I said to follow my music dream, right? And my wife was on FaceTime and she's like, she literally said, I've not heard about any of this. And she said, Several of them at that point just lean back with a look on their face. Oh, hang on, hang on here, what's going on? But I look across the table at this other...

Beautiful person who works for us. And she's looking with absolute horror on the look of her. Because she's heard you sing, man. That's right. She's probably worrying the people of Europe. My God, it's going to be awful. Oh, dear. And what did you then go? Yeah, April Fool's. Yeah, then another person goes, I think you're doing an April Fool's on us and so forth. And I said, that's right, yeah. And then around the table it was like, okay, okay, okay.

And I tell you, at the inside, I was so flattered that she thought it was like half possible that, oh, yeah, well, I guess he did write that one song. I guess he could make a career out of it. I thought you were going to say, I was touched that they were sad of my departure, but no, you disliked that they believed it was possible you were going to be a...

Music star. Yes, yes, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. Yeah, yeah. I asked her later on at lunch. I said, at any time in that time, did your thought go through your mind? Ah, my moment to take the reins. The king's gone. Here we go. Very nice. So, what's your idea for a podcast? Oh, the idea. Look, I think.

I think there's – I love hearing about these stories. I love hearing stories about April Fools. So my idea for a podcast is telling stories about April Fools or even going further and – and planning April Fool's. Planning them. I found a couple of legendary ones online. Did you want to hear about a couple of the more legendary ones? Go on then. Tell me the ones you think are most legendary. Well, I've been... What do you mean that I think are most legendary?

Well, because you're choosing them from the ones you've read online. These are the ones you've chosen to bring to the table. So April Fool's has been going on for quite a while, and it's quite a global thing. So some of these examples go way, way, way back. But this one is in 1980, the BBC World Series. Thank you. clock tower was going digital and from now on would be known as digital dave i love that that's fantastic

There was actually quite a, in the 60s, there was like this colour television hack in Sweden. So one of the, this is in the years before colour television, there was a particular television station.

um that that tricked a lot of its viewers into believing that they could transform their their black and white screens into color because they were hearing about color like around the world as an emerging technology with like a really easy diy kind of hack so this technical An expert went on there into intricate detail explaining how if you stretched certain kinds of mesh over the screen of your TV, it bent the lights.

wavelengths which allowed you to see tv in full technicolor right and that this could be like achieved with like nylon stockings and things along the house and so this this thousands and thousands of people fell for this sort of trick that they were trying at home There's other ones about like...

Even going back to like 1877, some publication called the New York Graphic talked about how, you know, Thomas Edison, who's had become like legendarily famous and so forth, had created a new machine that was capable of turning dirt into. meat and water into wine. And so they've got this headline, Edison invents a machine that will feed the human race. That's back in 1877. Can you believe that? I have to say, when I was a boy...

I thought April Fool's Day was brilliant and I loved it and I loved reading about it and finding out what happened. But now I don't like it. Like you actually don't like it. I don't like the sort of the tricking and the lying and the... Lying is a harsh word. I'm not accusing you of lying to your staff today in a moment of fun. But I think I just don't like it. And I feel like it's also changed now in the modern world of...

In the modern time of 24-7 news and social media and constant information and constant misinformation. Yeah. I don't really think April Fool's Day has a place anymore. Yeah. Like back in the old days when everyone got their news from BBC World Service and there was like a trusted authority or something in the newspapers and you could have just like one joke from that source. Like it kind of worked and I kind of got it and, you know. But now, when we're so bombarded with information...

And we're so bombarded with information that's conflicting and some's true and some's not and you don't know what to believe and that. I don't think April Fool's Day has a place anymore. Yeah, that's an interesting point. I get what you're saying. Yeah. The other thing that struck me today when I was looking at a few others of examples is how it pretty much has become a marketing ploy.

Like a huge amount of it is the companies that are pushing them. And it's like we've got to do two big campaigns, one's for the Super Bowl and one's for April Fool's Day. This product isn't going to be available. And that is old. That is getting really old.

Not like the old days in 1957 when the BBC still pulled off what it's called, you know, ranks as one of the most famous April Fool's Day gags of all time. When 8 million people tuned in to watch a three-minute feature on the Swiss spaghetti harvest. Most important of all, it's resulted in an exceptionally heavy spaghetti crop. The last two weeks of March...

on an anxious time for the spaghetti farmer. Spaghetti, that's the one. That is the most famous April Fool's prank. And you've heard about that one before, have you? I have, yeah. I know that one. Very famous one where they pretended that spaghetti was being hard. I've seen footage of spaghetti's being like pulled off trees or something, isn't it? That's right. And bushes and so forth and things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a lot of people were fooled.

Another reason why this may be a bumper year lies in the virtual disappearance of the spaghetti weevil, the tiny creature whose depredations have caused much concern in the past. That's like the, I think that's like one of the seminal April Fools. Jokes. So, Tim, fun idea. Always fun to talk about pranks. Love what you did. Not the podcast for me, if that's okay.

Is there another dimension to the podcast? Not just listing them, talking about them, or talking to people and how they pulled them off and executed them and all the rest of it and how clever they are. But is there some dimension of planning them or something like that as well? Podcasts are not good for planning ideas.

is though, are they? Not the same way a live radio show is. It'd be fun to try and start like a rival to April Fool's Day, like a new day where you trick people, like on a different date. Yeah, that's... And like start like a rival. Like a movement. Yeah, right, like a movement. Well, you know how you have Halloween, which is the night before All Saints Day. It's like the dark side of.

I wonder if April 2 could be like a really wholesome day. We could make it like truth day or wholesome day or something like that. Genius day instead of fools. When you do something that's completely genius. Yeah, but the fool isn't... It's that you were fooled. You were tricked. It's not that you're... What's the opposite of being tricked? Yeah, but you're the fool. Aren't you a fool for falling for it? I guess you are. I guess that's right. I don't know.

I looked into the history of April Fool's Day and it's very ambiguous and no one really knows. It's mentioned in early literature, like the Canterbury Tales and things, but no one really knows where it came from. Like it's not based on a religious custom or anything like that, like Halloween. Yeah.

Do you think it must suck to have your birthday on April 1st? It probably does. Yeah. Yeah. It probably gets old. Yeah. Yeah. What day would you least like to be your birthday? Probably Christmas Day. Hmm. Yeah. I often feel sorry for Jesus for that reason. That was incredibly unlucky, wasn't it? Very unlucky. And then to die at Easter. Boom, boom.

Yeah, all the key days. I wonder if – I mean, I know Easter is a moving feast, obviously, for – we all know the reasons that Easter falls on different days. But I wonder if there is – I wonder, well, obviously there are people, but I wonder about people who were born on Christmas Day and who died on Easter of the year they died in. Like, you know, they died on Easter.

I wonder if that's like a special category of person. I don't understand what you mean. I'm not following you. So someone, just someone, born on 25th of December and died on Easter. So whatever day Easter was in the year they died. You know, yeah. They died on Good Friday. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, Good Friday. Sorry, of course. Yeah, Good Friday. Yeah, yeah.

You know, there is a movement afoot amongst the different religions, like an ecumenical movement for Easter to be fixed as a particular weekend every year. Of course, it moves around because it's like the second moon of the harvest of whatever on the grearing calendar.

But there's a bit of a movement, you know, to sort of fix it. People feel it would have greater prominence or something like that. I'm not sure why it moves, but I'm sure there's a very good reason for it. Shall we do Spoon of the Week?

Oh, here we go. Yes. Often I bring a spoon on from the vast vat of mum and dad's collection and I've got no idea where it came from. On this occasion, I can remember dad coming home with this spoon. Wow. It was in 1988, and he took a trip up to a place called Gelatin, which is where...

His daughter was living, and around there – this is very, very far north Queensland, right up the – if you're looking at the Australian map, the pointy bit on the right top, he was right up the top there. So this is a spoon from Cairns, which is sort of a large – city up there but he was actually a bit further up than that and it's of a very very large butterfly nice it's a tropical area and so there's lots of these sorts of tropical big butterflies everywhere and um

And he came home with a whole collection of spoons. He came home from this trip with a lot of spoons. He loved this trip. It was a really, really precious time. He came back with... Did he drive up there from Adelaide, did he? So he would have gone through lots of... some places or did he fly up no he i think he caught a coach bus up and then flew home um and he just had a magnificent time but he came back with all sorts of tourist crap like

you know, towels and these spoons, these spoons, of course, but then also like T-shirts and stuff. So through the end of the 80s and into the early 90s, whenever it's like dad's working in the garden or something like that, or he's around the house, so many of the...

photos he has this you know sort of a slightly too tight t-shirt that just says cairns or north queensland or g'day mate from north queensland or something like that nice yeah this was this he got a lot of merch on this particular holiday So paint a picture of the spoon for people who can't see a photo of it.

Well, the bottom bit, the scoopy bit's pretty standard, small, and the stem is nice. It's got little ridgets, but in a very simple sort of design. It's not replicated on the back. The back's quite smooth. And then you come up to the top. the top bit and and then it just says the handle where it's got a um the top of the handle it's got a very chunky piece there where it just says cans um and then above that it's it's sort of shaped exactly like

a butterfly, but the wings of the butterfly are so wide and chunky they go out further than the scoopy bit. They're wider than the scoopy bit. Yeah. Very top-heavy. Very top-heavy, chunky. It jumped out at me looking down into the collection. And it's blue. Yeah, like those famous blue butterflies, you know, that kind of look almost...

The metallic-y, shiny blue butterflies. I can't remember what they're called, but, yeah, it's a good-looking butterfly. It's a good-looking spoon. That's what it is. Do you remember being excited? when your mum or dad would add a new spoon to the collection, however it came to be in the collection? Was it like a moment, like you'd go, oh, a nice spoon, or were you kind of oblivious to the spoons as a boy? It was a moment. Excited is a bit too much. Like, it wasn't like...

You know, the court scene of A Few Good Men. It wasn't like that, but it was- You can't handle the spoon. I wouldn't replicate it by walking back to the living room and looking at it again. And there we go. That was quite a moment. But I would note it because it would be like, oh, here we go. This one's another one that's going into the collection.

It would be noted. Dad, you know, you unpack stuff when you come back from a holiday. So he goes, and I got this spoon. And you go, oh, nice. Hold that nice spoon and put that down. So I noted it, even though I wasn't a big spoon aficionado myself, I noted it. as something and it's like, oh, here we go. Can I? And I'd walk over and put it on sometimes or something like that. Who knew what a role those spoons were to play in your life? What a privilege. I know. I know. Incredible.

Building a legacy. That's what it was doing. It was. It was. It was something special. Speaking of things that are special, our Patreon supporters are very special. They are. I tell you what, if you like a top-heavy spoon... The Unmade Podcast spoon is a top-heavy spoon. I wasn't giving away a spoon today. It's not on my list of giveaways. Oh, you have to. Are you serious? I can't. Well, I didn't plan to. No, it's not on the list today.

Well, how can you spin the wheel or do something? I feel like that's... No, I need to check my spoon stocks. I haven't planned for it. Sorry. Okay, what if you do that? after this and then it's sent as a surprise to someone someone they don't know who they are they will receive it well what do you think about that i'll think about it i'll think about it that means no

As any parent knows, when you say, I'll think about it maybe later. That's a no. How about if I go to the patron page and I flick through, close my eyes and open up at a name? No? You're saying no. All right. Go on. all right here we go go to the patreon page on our website the wall of thanks or whatever we've called it it's a big long list of names all right here we go here we go have you got it

How are you doing this choice? This is breaking all the rules. It's not being done with my algorithm, obviously. No, no. How do I get to there to run some names? Hang on. There we go. Membership. On the top menu there, it says like wall of thanks or something, doesn't it? And there's a list of everyone who's a... patron, stakeholder. Well, thanks. There we go. All right. So there's a nice list here. Maybe what I'm going to do, I'm going to go.

With my scrolly bar, I'm going to go up and down and up and down and up and down. And then I'm just going to close my eyes. And the first one, when I open them, I'm going to look at. Okay. Trolls home. Trolls home. All right, trolls. There we go. Trolls. Trolls. You got a spoon. Spoon coming your way. Massively unlucky for Murray Barnes and Sammy F, who were just above and below trolls. Don't tell them that. That's going to be so much.

Micro flitch of my eyeball would have put my eye onto them. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll tell you who are winners, though. We're going to send one of our key rings, one of our Australian nut leather key rings to Asmita. Asmita from Canada, I'm going to send one of my special asteroid cards, which isn't really official Unmade Podcast memorabilia, but I'm still a bit excited about it.

And these are the best postcards I've ever had made. They've even got like silver shininess on them. I haven't received one yet. Are you sending one to me? I will if I remember, yeah, because I'm going to do a big post day in the next day or two. So I'll try to remember. Robert. Robert from Czech Republic. You're getting one of those. And Spoon of the Week collector cards are going to Simon from Sweden.

And Nicodemus from Cyprus. Nicodemus from Cyprus. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. I know. It's like- Like he lived 2,000 years ago and then here he is today. I know. He should be writing books in the Bible, not getting collector cards of spoons. That's right. Wow. Brilliant. All right.

Thanks. Thanks to everyone who supports us. Patreon.com slash Unmade FM. You also will get to listen to the request room. We've got a great request room coming today. I tell you right now. We do. Here's my idea for a podcast. Just simple. Simple. No bells and whistles. No great laughs. Just it is what it is. This podcast is called The Thing My Kid Is Into. Right. And each episode, you take a thing.

that your kid is into or i would take a thing that edward my son is into and just do a deep dive into that topic but in a really adult way not not through the eyes of a child but like a really sophisticated adult look at whatever my kid is really into that week. Because with kids, it can change week to week. Sometimes there'll be things they're into for a month or two or months. Sometimes it could be just a few days. But you just take whatever is in the zeitgeist of your child and-

Take a look at it. Research it. Learn more about it. Do you mean like they're really into picking their nose at the moment? Well, I don't know about that. More like at the moment, Edward's really into- Purple cars. In fact, he's been into purple cars for a long time. If you say, what do you want to watch on YouTube or what do you want to play with? Very often it'll be purple cars. I think he just likes saying the word purple and purple is his favorite color and he loves cars.

So I'd love to do an episode about purple cars. Who are some people who owned purple cars? What percentage of cars that are sold are purple? Let's go deep into purple cars. I presume Prince had a purple car. I'm sure he probably did. Yeah. Who else has had purple cars? I don't know. Do any superheroes drive purple cars? I'm sure some do. Oh, there is one you can buy, like the Joker. I think the Joker probably has a purple car. Oh, yeah, yeah. Especially from the first-

remade Batman movie from 1990. He'd be into purple stuff. Some other things, some other episodes that I would, if I was making a bunch of episodes right now, we would have purple cars, scooters, skateboards. Snakes, an episode all about snakes. Skydiving is a new thing he's become absolutely obsessed with and loves watching videos of skydiving and talking about it. And he's got- he's just-

fascinated by skydiving, people jumping out of planes. I would have thought there was an age limit on that, but anyway. You'd think so, but you go on YouTube and in some countries they can jump out pretty young, strapped to an adult. Who's strapped to a parachute, yes. Hopefully. Not just strapped to an adult. I do have to constantly explain that backpack's got a parachute, you know. The movie Ferdinand would be an interesting one. With the bull? Yeah.

Yeah, that's an awesome movie. That's wonderful. Lovely film. Great film. But also it was based on a really short Disney film from years and years ago that's only about five, ten minutes long. There's like a short version, then the old, old... old days of animation, and then they turned it into a full-length feature. So you could go, you could explore all the history of that. Ferdinand. Rockets. Loves rockets, of course. Yeah. A complete history of chips. Potato chips.

Fried chips. Love chips. Episode about chips. What are some episodes, if you had to make three or four episodes right now about things your kids are into, what would I be expecting on Tim's version of this podcast? What are your kids into? Well, there's nail polish, as I mentioned before. That'd be great, you having to research nail polish, the history of nail polish. When do people start wearing it? Why do they wear it? What do other cultures do? What are their attitudes to nail polish?

I imagine the men might have wore it in the Elizabethan period. Maybe it was the men of court that wore them, wore it as much like they did with the powder. Yeah, Disney, massively into Disney, deep dive into Star Wars and my eldest.

is you know like much further than me you know like all particularly with all the new series that's coming out now right across all of them when they're coming what order they're in good bad ugly all that kind of stuff great massively into that stuff they love Op Shopping

So the notion of selling secondhand clothes and the place- Selling their own clothes as well, do they? Do they sell their own stuff to make money? No, I mean, we bag stuff up when we're done with it and take it to the op shop, but we just love op shopping, love going to thrift shops and looking through for cool facts.

stuff um massively massively into that yep they're they're a little passing like oh novels but then they move through different series they're much more likely to find a particular author read everything from that author read it all again, then move to the next author. So a particular author at a particular time. Who's in vogue at the moment? Do you know any at the moment? I can't remember the author's name, but they're certainly murder thrillers. Those ones are huge.

Huge with my youngest. Just, yeah, murder mystery kind of things. old do you have to be before you start reading murder books i don't know but to my mind she got into it way too early so on the one hand something comes up on the tv that's a bit yucky and it's like oh my goodness grace the tv has to go off terribly verified and instead

She goes to her room and reads about, you know, people being, you know, hacked to death and then the investigation on working out. I just don't understand that at all. But, yeah, that's big, really big. Obviously, they've sort of moved a bit past the Harry Potter. Bit over, bit done with Harry Potter now. Yep. That's a bit in the past. It sort of lingers and hangs there, but, you know. Well, I wonder if the TV show coming will sort of renew interest there.

Oh, that's right, yeah. I did buy a Quidditch game, but that's not been a massive hit, so I think it's kind of done a little bit. I meant to ask you, actually, like only semi-related, but you mentioned Star Wars. I bought you as a gift when I was over that. that little Lego Millennium Falcon. And I know you built that with your daughter. What have you done with it? Oh, yeah, yeah. Look, we had a great time.

With that, that was fantastic. She did a little bit on her own and then we did heaps of it together over a few days. That was fantastic. But where is it? Where is it being displayed? It's on the shelf. I'll have to send you a photo. We have like a shelf on our big bookshelf. We have like a Lego shelf now, and it's got a range of Lego items that have been well made, like the house from – is it Up? The house from Up?

And then it's got some other bits and pieces. And the Millennium Falcon's there. Looks fantastic. Did building it make you think? Any differently about Lego? Because obviously we have this disagreement about whether Lego is a toy or like a model building. Did you feel like you were playing with a toy or did you sort of start feeling a little bit more grown up about it? Oh, no.

I felt like I was doing- It was an enjoyable toy. I was enjoying it. But because you- I think the reason why I think it's a toy is you're guided so carefully through it. There's not a lot of room for creativity. That makes me think the opposite. I think toys are more freestyle than you just do what you want. And if you're having to follow rigid rules and precise blueprints, that seems more grown up to me. Don't get me wrong. I love- I think Lego should be more about.

you know, just freestyling and being creative. But I think if you're following like just really complicated instructions, it seems more sophisticated almost. But you wouldn't say that by like a paint-by-numbers painting or something like that, would you? True, true, true. Good point. But look, I enjoyed it and it made me want to go out and buy more Lego.

So I know that was kind of your purpose. No, no, no, no. That was not my purpose. It was not my purpose. No, it did make me – it's like, oh, why don't we do this all the time? It's really – I'll tell you what, it's nice. It's a bit like having – you know, some people enjoy having a –

puzzle on the go in the house and it's not like you're doing it all the time it's like you're doing stuff and then you just go over and do it for a while and you go there we go and walk away and it's nice having that on the go means you can't use the the table for dinner or anything like that. But just having that on the go is on the, on the tables like, yeah, cool. I'll do this for a bit. I've got a friend that does that. He'll buy like a really big Lego set that'll have like.

you know, 20 bags because they're broken into little subsets with bags for each section. And he'll just say, I'm just going to do a bag tonight. Just one bag. No more. I'm not going to get carried away. Just one. Maybe two bags. Let's see how we go. But, like, I'll just go and do bag three and four tonight. And then he'll go back a week later and do bag five. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I can see that being really cool. And I can see that being really great with kids as well. You know, like let's together do one. You do one, I'll do one or something like that, you know, like the whole family can do one after another. But I... I'll tell you what I was impressed by. I was impressed by how much specificity and detail there were in the bits of the model that –

aren't going to be seen from the outside. Yes. Yeah, that strikes me. That really goes up another level with some of the bigger Lego sets too. You know, the insides will be incredibly intricate. So, it has like an inner integrity, but then- It also means the outer doesn't have to be all closed either, you know, because even just a glint of an eye all the way through means it looks real, makes it look more sophisticated.

Yeah, I was impressed with it and very grateful to you. It was a great gift and a lot of fun. Oh, well, you play your cards right. Maybe I'll get you the big Millennium Falcon one day. I don't know if I'm ready for that, man. My daughter is, but I'm not sure I am. I only got Tim that smaller one, by the way. I didn't get him the Ultimate Collector series. I don't think he's, yeah. The life-size one that you can actually fly. Yeah.

I think this is a pretty good idea. I think- Is the purpose like just for enjoyment or is it for like tips and hints on what to get into with your kids? I think it would be- No, no. I don't think it's about like your children. I think it's about- putting together a series of episodes on disparate topics for adults, but the method for choosing those disparate topics.

is the randomness of children's interests. Oh, yeah. Because there'd be a kind of weirdness to it, isn't it? One week you're doing purple cars, the next week you're doing rocket ships and things. But, like, so the method of choosing the topics is kind of... a little bit quirky let me ask you this like obviously your girls are more grown up now and have slightly more sophisticated interests when they were younger they would have had those more

simple and cute interests. And there are so many of them, and I know they come and go so quickly, but are there one or two that are really burned in your memory as things they were really into as little, little girls that you still think, God, they're into that. And it was such a... weird or wonderful thing they're into. Two things come to mind immediately. One of them is their compulsion for years and years and years to put on a show for us to watch.

Right. Like night after night, they'd come to us and say, we've got a show. Can you guys watch, you know, before bedtime a show? Like we've got a show. And so we would go out and sit on, you know, this particular toy box and so forth. And one of them would be the master.

of ceremonies you know and now the amazing you know so forth hooray and we'd clap and then the other one would come in and like be balancing a spoon on their head or something and yeah and then but then there's always one of them's like the roadie like coming in you know from the side holding up something like pretending not to be seen but they can be totally seen and you know there's lots of really funny stuff like that so that yeah those shows were um they went on

And on and on and on. They were legendary, so it was a lot of fun. And, of course, it had dress-ups and all that kind of stuff going on too, so that was really, really cool. Would you and your wife have ever put on a show for them? No. Sometimes we would have to be involved, like you do something now or something like that. But most of the time it was you sit there and watch. You know, that was kind of it. Okay. Yeah.

And you don't add any improvement. Like you can't say anything like, hey, why don't you put the hat over here? No, no, no, no, no, no. No constructive criticism here. There's not welcome. Totally, totally, you know, just passive. admiration and applause. Yeah, yeah. So that was cool. The other one that I remember a little bit, but they were reminding me of this actually the other day, and that was they went through a bit of a ninja stage. Right.

They've been freaking out because I bought a couple of bandanas and I bought these bandanas with the purposes of... keeping you know for playing tennis right because just keeping sweat off my you know face so my glasses don't slip around but of course putting them on i immediately look like i'm in a you know an la gang from 1987 like i look ridiculous

And they're horrified at the idea that I would wear these outside. So, of course, I've started wearing them like outside and everywhere. But they were talking about when they used to wear, you know. bandanas around their head like the Karate Kid although they hadn't seen the Karate Kid but they did have a whole ninja stage where they would sort of it was it was sort of ninja it was but it was they weren't into the martial arts side it was more the parkour kind of you know

element of it so i can jump onto here then i can climb over here then i can walk across the bench and so i can get from the front of the house to the back of the house without touching the ground they were really into that for a while and yeah Nice. Edward quite likes assault courses and obstacle courses at the moment. And just yesterday I bought him like these stepping stones and balance beams and that so we can set up more elaborate obstacle courses in the lounge. He likes a bit of that.

Coming up with an assault course. I showed them that scene from the US version of The Office where they're doing parkour around the office and like just crashing and smashing everything. It's like terrible and awful. Oh, I don't know that. I don't know it. That's very good. They go to jump off the shed outside and just massively hurt themselves.

We are now going to retire to the request room. I'm looking forward to this. Lots of great questions and things. There'll be a lot of ranking of things. Yes, yes, I've got the list. Yes. We've got some lists and ranking of things that are going to happen. So go become a Patreon supporter, a stakeholder, as we like to call them, and be part of all that and support the show. We're really...

grateful for your support. It really helps keep us going. And if we can get a few more people, we can do more stuff. So patreon.com slash Unmade FM. Can I ask a question? If people become patron now, can they go back and listen to all the old request rooms or only just from here on? Yes. They can. Yes. There you go. Nice. Yeah. But today's is good. I've got two lists. Let's go. Let's go. Let's do it. All right, we're off.