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The Transaction

Craig Rosenberg & Matt Amundson | B2B Sales & Marketing Experts - Hosts of The Transactionthetransactionpod.com
Welcome to The Transaction. The #1 Go-To-Market podcast on the planet.* Hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson, two legendary go-to-market leaders in their own right, talk weekly with the best sales, marketing, operations, and product leaders in the B2B SaaS world to understand what's working in the new playbook of the post-ZIRP market. But Craig, Matt, and their guests don't just talk theoretically, they share the stories and actionable tips, tactics, and strategies behind what's driving B2B revenue growth that you can take and implement in your own go-to-market roles. Whether you're a Chief Revenue Officer leading a B2B SaaS sales and marketing organization, a marketing leader trying to drive bigger outcomes with your demand gen team, or a new sales rep, you'll learn and laugh every episode. From ABM to PLG, from MEDDIC to MEDDPICC, the world of business is constantly evolving. We’ll cover the who, what, where, when, why, and most importantly, how you get… The Transaction. Join our newsletter to get every episode + exclusive extras & insights right in your overcrowded inbox: https://thetransaction.substack.com/ About Your Hosts Craig Rosenberg is the Chief Platform Officer at Scale Venture Partners. He is a seasoned expert in B2B revenue growth, helping SaaS companies transition from founder-led growth to becoming high-growth Go-To-Market machines. Previously, Craig was a Distinguished VP Analyst at Gartner and co-founder of TOPO Inc., a research and advisory firm acquired by Gartner in 2020. Craig thinks Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Matt Amundson is the Chief Marketing Officer of DuploCloud. He is also an advisor for companies such as Sendoso and Salesloft. Prior to DuploCloud, Matt spent time as an Executive In Residence with Scale Venture Partners and led marketing departments at Census, Very Good Security, and Everstring, to name a few. Matt thinks Die Hard 2 is better than Die Hard. The Transaction is produced by Sam Guertin. *This claim is entirely unsubstantiated and is made wholly based on the subjective judgment of the inherently biased people who are part of this show.
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Episodes

Organizing Unforgettable Events for B2B with Jen Igartua, CEO of Go Nimbly - Ep 81

Back for her second episode is the one and only Jen Igartua, the CEO of Go Nimbly and RevOps OG. Jen joins Co-Hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson to break down what made Go Nimbly’s Rev Fest such an incredible event for everyone, from the GTM leaders attending to the speakers, and even the sponsor brands. Jen outlines why she picked a truly iconic venue for a business event, how she prepared the speakers to deliver insights entertainingly, and what B2B event sponsors should be doing instead ...

Jun 11, 202659 minSeason 2Ep. 81

The AEO Playbook: Own the AI Shortlist - Live with Sydney Sloan at GTM Tailwinds - Ep 80

Sydney Sloan, the CMO of G2, joined Craig, Matt, and our amazing audience of GTM leaders at our GTM Tailwinds event this spring for a live recording where she outlined the major shift in B2B buyer behavior, how to measure and track Answer Engine Optimization, and why the partnership and distribution layer is as important as content creation. Critical Takeaways Over half of B2B buyers (51%, up from 24% just one year ago) now start their research in an LLM rather than Google. GTM leaders must trea...

Jun 08, 202636 minSeason 2Ep. 80

Attention is the New Moat - LIVE with Scott Albro at GTM Tailwinds - Ep 79

The one and only Scott Albro once again returns to The Transaction, but this time, Scott joined Craig, Matt, James Kaikis, and our amazing audience of GTM leaders at our GTM Tailwinds event this spring for a live recording. Scott shares his insights on how to overcome the real GTM problem of the ‘attention bottleneck’ and lays out a precise framework for flipping from push to pull using network thinking, transformation narratives, and high-leverage distribution tactics. Using real examples from ...

Jun 01, 202637 minSeason 2Ep. 79

Building an Incorruptible Company that Lasts with Eric Ries, Author of Incorruptible & The Lean Startup - Ep 78

It’s not every day that you get to have one of the most important thinkers in the startup world on your podcast, but for The Transaction, that day is today. Eric Ries is a Founder and the renowned business author of The Lean Startup and his brand new book, Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad…and How Great Companies Stay Great. Eric joins Craig Rosenberg and returning guest host Scott Albro to discuss the forces that make companies vulnerable to destruction from within and without. Then he o...

May 27, 202644 minSeason 2Ep. 78

Using AI to Empower SDRs & Eliminate Admin Work with David Wilkins, Founder of SDR Leaders of EMEA & B2B Sales Expert - Ep 77

Excessive admin work and poor-performing sales plays are killing SDR effectiveness and, in turn, company growth. We just so happen to know just the B2B sales expert to help SDR leaders kick things up a notch, wherever they may reside around the globe. Besides having a wonderful British accent, which Craig loved, David Wilkins is the Founder of SDR Leaders of EMEA and the Co-Founder of SDR Leaders of USA and APAC. David joins Co-Hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson to dig into how sales leader...

Apr 16, 202658 minSeason 2Ep. 77

Building a Movement Through B2B Marketing with Kacie Jenkins, Head of Marketing for Claude Code at Anthropic - Ep 76

Kacie Jenkins is the Head of Marketing for Claude Code at Anthropic. Prior to joining Anthropic, Kacie led marketing at Sendoso as SVP of Marketing, Sourcegraph as VP of Marketing, and Fastly as VP of Marketing, to name a few. Kacie joins co-hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson to unpack what B2B brands need to learn from B2C companies in order to build bold, unforgettable brands that increase revenue and redefine markets. Plus, Kacie outlines why B2B startups need to see building a founder b...

Mar 31, 202658 minSeason 2Ep. 76

How Courageous Marketing Leadership Builds Bold Brands with Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist at Gong - Ep 75

Udi Ledergor is the Chief Evangelist at Gong and is firmly amongst the upper echelon of the, as yet to be founded, B2B marketing leader hall of fame, having led outstanding teams as both a Vice President of Marketing and Chief Marketing Officer at five B2B SaaS companies for over two decades. Alongside steadfast co-hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson, Udi shares how he has crafted one of the top SaaS brands without losing its exceedingly human touch, how Gong thinks about the content they cr...

Mar 17, 202659 minSeason 2Ep. 75

Positioning Needs to Underpin Every Part of Your Brand Strategy with Stacey Epstein, CEO of Structured - Ep 74

We’ve got the perfect guest to help you understand how your brand can stand out and provide a uniquely incredible experience for customers in the AI era. Stacey Epstein is the CEO of Structured, the only AI-native channel marketing platform purpose-built for complex partner ecosystems. She is also the Host of AI’ve Got Questions , a casual, candid podcast for marketers trying to make sense of the fast-moving world of AI. Stacey joins co-hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg to discuss why your...

Feb 26, 202655 minSeason 2Ep. 74

The AI-Enabled Future of Sales with James Kaikis, Founder of GTMshift - Ep 73

The landscape of go-to-market in the B2B SaaS world is shifting rapidly, but thankfully we’ve got just the person to help you get ahead and innovate. James Kaikis is the Founder of GTMshift, Co-Founder of SolutionExec, Co-Founder of AI Sales Studio, and Host of The GTMshift Interview Series. James joins Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg to unpack the evolving role of sales reps, how to use the GTM Innovator’s Framework to stay up on AI advances, and why B2B SaaS companies must refocus their GTM ...

Feb 09, 20261 hr 3 minSeason 2Ep. 73

How the Most Successful B2B Marketing Teams are Winning with Omar Akhtar, Founder of Benchmarker - Ep 72

Surprise: Doing ‘more with less’, doesn’t actually work in B2B marketing, and today’s guest has the data to show it. Omar Akhtar is the Founder and Principal Analyst of Benchmarker and the Director of Content at UserTesting. Omar joins co-hosts Matt Amundson & Craig Rosenberg to dive into the B2B marketing data from Benchmarker’s latest survey, why the most successful companies are spending more on brand than demand, and how events have emerged as one of the top growth channels in go-to-mark...

Jan 20, 202656 minSeason 2Ep. 72

“The Who is Everything” with Kathy Macchi, Co-Founder of Inverta - Ep 71

For our first episode of the new year, we’re thrilled to welcome special guest Kathy Macchi, the Executive Vice President, Innovation & Co-Founder at Inverta. Kathy joins co-hosts Craig Rosenberg & Matt Amundson to discuss where so many go-to-market leaders go wrong with their segmentation, why your message matters more than the channel you deliver it through, and how to design a successful mid-market marketing org amidst massive pressure for budget cuts. Also, Craig bemoans eating veget...

Jan 08, 20261 hr 4 minSeason 2Ep. 71

Escaping B2B SaaS Dashboard Hell with Ray Rike & Dave Kellogg - Ep 70

If you feel like your pipeline is broken, your CAC is bloated, and your dashboards are lying to you… you’re FAR from the only one. Joining the show are the Metrics Brothers, Ray Rike and Dave Kellogg! Ray is the Founder & Chief Evangelism Officer of Benchmarkit, Host of Metrics That Measure Up, a Founding Member of the SaaS Metrics Standards Board, and is an LP at Stage 2 Capital. Dave co-hosts The Metrics Brothers Podcast, writes the incomparable ‘Kellblog’, and is an EIR at Balderton Capit...

Dec 08, 202556 minSeason 2Ep. 70

Account Management is Your Startup’s Growth Department with Alex Raymond, Founder of AMplify - Ep 69

With so much attention within the go-to-market world paid to marketing and sales, account management, which is arguably just as important, rarely gets its due. Alex Raymond is the Founder of AMplify and Host of the Account Management Secrets podcast. Alex joins co-hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg for the first major discussion on the podcast of account management and its crucial role in growing revenue and overall company value for SaaS vendors. Plus, Alex breaks down how CROs should orga...

Nov 18, 202559 minSeason 2Ep. 69

Agentic AI VS ABM & AI Pricing Explained with Gabe Larsen, Chief Revenue Officer of Signals - Ep 68

The immense hype around AI agents is positively palpable, but is there value in adopting an army of AI minions today or is the promise of agentic AI still fictitious pulp? Here to help illuminate and elucidate the role of AI agents is Gabe Larsen, the Chief Revenue Officer at Signals and the former Chief Marketing Officer of Kustomer. Gabe joins co-hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg for a deep dive into how agentic AI coupled with signal-based marketing succeeds in go to market where Accoun...

Oct 31, 202556 minSeason 2Ep. 68

Re-Examining Account-Based Marketing in the AI-Powered Era with Davis Potter, CEO of ForgeX - Ep 67

The vast majority of companies that think they are running ABM (Account-Based Marketing) are not actually running ABM. Not only that, they wouldn’t recognize a real ABM strategy if one came up and slapped them in the face with a stack of direct mailers. Davis Potter is the CEO & Co-Founder of ForgeX, a research and advisory firm that helps B2B companies modernize their Account-Based Go To Market and AI strategies. Davis joins co-hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg for an exploration of t...

Oct 17, 202555 minSeason 2Ep. 67

The Full Analyst Relations Playbook for SaaS Startups with Rachel Dines - Ep 66

Rachel Dines is a B2B Marketing expert and advisor to multiple SaaS platforms, where she provides her specialty in deep tech companies with sales-led go-to-market motions. Rachel also writes a SubStack newsletter called Tech Dropout. Previously, Rachel was VP of Product and Technical Marketing at Chronosphere and a Forrester industry analyst turned product marketing leader. Rachel joins co-hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson for a raucous romp through the world of building analyst relationsh...

Sep 30, 20251 hrSeason 2Ep. 66

Enabling Excellent B2B Sales Teams in the AI Era with Tom Murtaugh, Portfolio Operations Director at Nordic Capital - Ep 65

Even with all the newest, shiniest AI tools out there, successful, sustainable B2B sales growth is still built on nailing the basic sales skills. To provide a refresher on those basic B2B sales skills and more, we’re thrilled to introduce Tom Murtaugh, the Portfolio Operations Director at Nordic Capital, a leading sector-specialist private equity firm. Tom joins co-hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson to discuss the importance of maintaining deal control, why revenue leaders need to understan...

Sep 10, 202557 minSeason 2Ep. 65

Solving the Go-To-Market Skills Crisis in B2B Sales with Chris Orlob, CEO of pclub - Ep 64

B2B sellers and sales leaders find themselves in the midst of an unprecedented Go-To-Market skills crisis at a time when budgets are shrinking and selling is getting harder. Joining the show once again is the inimitable Chris Orlob, CEO at pclub.io, the #1 Skill Transformation Platform for Revenue Teams. Chris joins Co-Hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg to dig into where the current sales skills crisis came from, what sales leaders can do to help improve their sales reps’ skill capacity, an...

Aug 28, 202551 minSeason 2Ep. 64

10x Pipeline Using The New AI-First Go-To-Market Playbook with David Boskovic, CEO & Founder of Flatfile - Ep 63

The old go-to-market playbook is broken, but in this episode we have a B2B SaaS founder who has actually figured out the new GTM playbook to grow in the current market. This SaaS savant is none other than the one and only David Boskovic, the CEO and Founder of Flatfile, which is the AI-powered data migration solution trusted by enterprise customers like ClickUp, HubSpot, Amazon, ADP, and Toast. David joins co-hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg to outline how he and the GTM team at Flatfile ...

Aug 18, 202553 minSeason 2Ep. 63

How To Show up in ChatGPT Results & More B2B Marketing Secrets with Sydney Sloan, CMO of G2 - Ep 62

80% of B2B buyers are already using AI in some part of their research process. Yes, you read that correctly, and we’ve got a special, repeat guest on the show to help you understand that shift in buyer behavior, how to capitalize on it, and much more. We are thrilled to welcome back AI and marketing expert Sydney Sloan, the Chief Market Officer of G2, to the program on this episode. Sydney joins Co-Hosts Matt Amundson and special Co-Host Scott Albro to explore how AI is being used by buyers when...

Aug 08, 202553 minSeason 2Ep. 62

Building B2B Buyers’ Self-Confidence & Selling WAY More with Brent Adamson - Ep 61

Imagine you created a sales process so amazing that it was the only one customers actually enjoyed. Impossible? Today’s guest says no. Returning once again to grace this humble GTM-focused podcast with his immense intellect and immaculate presence is Brent Adamson, the co-author of The Challenger Sale and the upcoming new release, The Frame-Making Sale . Brent is back alongside Co-Hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg to share how sellers can help B2B buyers become more confident in their own ...

Aug 01, 202557 minSeason 2Ep. 61

AI-Powered Cold Calling & SaaS Sales Strategy with Justin Michael & Charles Needham - Ep 60

What if cold calling isn’t dead—but everything we know about it is? From dissecting permission-based openers to dunking on dated tactics, sales experts Justin Michael and Charles Needham make a bold case for why the phone isn’t dead as a sales channel—it’s just misused. Justin Michael, aka the John Wick of executive coaching, is a longtime B2B seller and sales trainer, as well as the Founder of the Justin Michael Method and co-author of The Cold Call Algo . Along with being Justin’s Co-Author on...

Jul 22, 20251 hrSeason 2Ep. 60

Explosive Growth of AI Startup Cursor 🔥 - The Direct Deposit - Ep 2

In the second episode of 'The Direct Deposit,' Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg dive into the astonishing growth of Cursor, a startup providing an AI code editor for software developers, that has secured three funding rounds and achieved $500 million ARR in less than a year—all without a traditional marketing strategy. Matt & Craig explore how Cursor's product-led growth go-to-market model and simple SaaS pricing tiers contribute to their success in both raising new funding rounds and recur...

Jul 12, 20256 min

Actually Actionable Advice For Implementing AI with Jake Dunlap - Ep 59

Everyone's talking about how amazing AI can be, but there’s a real dearth of actionable advice on how to actually put generative AI to work for your sales, marketing, customer service, or other go-to-market team. Well, that was until we talked to this week’s incredible guest… Jake Dunlap is truly a thought leader on using AI in B2B go-to-market strategies and is the CEO of Skaled Consulting, a revenue performance agency dedicated to helping B2B companies scale smarter. Jake joins Matt Amundson a...

Jul 06, 202553 minSeason 2Ep. 59

What Made RevFest 2025 Such a Great B2B Event? - The Direct Deposit by The Transaction - Ep 1

1. We are testing a new The Transaction product - The Direct Deposit. The idea is to take something that happened that week and one host asks the other host 5 questions. The result is a 5 minute quick hit. 2. For this week's Direct Deposit, we cover RevFest. I'll give you the high level: 🐰 Jen Igartua and the Go Nimbly team killed it. Also, I am leading an unauthorized effort to rename it LoveFest 2026 but Matt Amundson keeps killing it. Lesss go! This is the first edition of The Direct Deposit...

Jul 06, 20256 min

Founder-Led GTM, Growth Bets, & Why Stories Win With Scott Albro - Ep 058

Scott Albro is back in The Transaction hot seat—and he’s not here to play nice. Scott brings a flame-thrower to traditional playbooks, urging GTM leaders to experiment wildly, think like founders, and stop chasing MQLs like it’s still 2014. Craig and Matt get Scott talking about everything from AI-driven storytelling to "vibe marketing," with detours through SDR history lessons, Red Bull stunts, and the existential crisis of printer ownership. If your go-to-market motion still depends on intent ...

Jun 24, 202547 minSeason 2Ep. 58

Overcoming Your 'Go-To-Market Midlife Crisis' with Craig & Matt - Ep 57

That’s right, no guest on this one, but not to worry, it’s just as insight-filled, yet off the rails, as all of our other episodes that you’ve come to know and love. Co-Hosts Matt Amundson and Craig Rosenberg discuss coming to terms with their go-to-market mid-life crises and how they have gotten up to speed on the latest AI advancements to help them get back in the game. Craig and Matt dig into how they’re using AI tools to create things like AI buyer personas, the impact B2B events are having,...

Jun 12, 202555 minSeason 2Ep. 57

Crafting an Exceptional Event Marketing Strategy with Amy Holtzman, CMO of CHEQ - Ep 56

B2B marketers keep making the same mistakes when it comes to events, only to end up asking why they didn’t see any ROI. Thankfully, we knew just the right person to help you improve your field marketing game… Amy Holtzman is the Chief Marketing Officer of CHEQ, the leader in go-to-market security, and one of the best B2B marketing leaders in SaaS, especially when it comes to creating unforgettable experiences. Amy joins co-hosts Craig Rosenberg and Matt Amundson to explore how to plan an event m...

May 26, 202553 minSeason 2Ep. 56

Inverting your Go-To-Market Strategy Thinking with Jordan Crawford - Ep 55

AI use cases & tactics are moving at a million miles per hour which can make it hard to adopt some of these amazing innovations into your go-to-market strategy. Thankfully, we knew just the guy to have on the show to help us put into practice what otherwise could seem like technological mumbo, and or jumbo. That man’s name is Jordan Crawford, the Founder of Blueprint GTM and one of the foremost go-to-market engineers innovating B2B sales and marketing on the cutting edge of AI advancements. ...

May 17, 202552 minSeason 2Ep. 55

How to Implement AI in Your Go-To-Market with Matt Heinz - Ep 54

Matt Heinz, the President of Heinz Marketing, is a top 50 Sales & Marketing Influencer and a prolific thought leader in the B2B marketing space. Matt digs into why B2B marketers should invest more in brand as the AI Age progresses, whether the Chief Marketing Officer should report to the Chief Revenue Officer, and why B2B marketers are so terrible at naming products and concepts. Also, Craig ponders the meaning of parabolas, Matt ranks the best men’s hair in B2B Marketing, and Producer Sam g...

May 09, 202558 minSeason 2Ep. 54
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