Welcome to the spin. We're never late. We're just, we just scheduled it too early, so. All the people in the chat were here too early. That's right. Guys, I'm sorry. Abby has been making a habit of exploding like 2 minutes before we start it. Two weeks in a row this has happened. She like Jack. Jack. That's like 628. It's time for her just to unleash the world in her diaper. Hey, sometimes you got it, you know what I mean?
And I'm not as quick at it as Leslie is, but you know, we get through it. Sherry saw on the phone with Tia 100% that's what we were doing. I was calling her. I said thank you for posting your announcement an hour before the show. We said, Are you sure we don't want to get woodland here? We told, we told her, hey, just wait. Yeah, don't do it on Tuesday. They wanted to do on Tuesday, Spend reached out to, Shane said. Just wait. Wait to lift. That up. Lift that up. That's how it works.
The news comes out on Wednesday because they know this is the most popular CrossFit show out there, at least on Wednesday nights. And so yeah, JY can definitely, definitely. Not far enough to pre empt explosions evidently. I can't, I can't. I can't make it happen quicker. Tyler. I could know it's coming. It's not going to help anything. Yeah, I am not lucky. It's it's skill. Wednesday night is the time for CrossFit news to come out. No guests this week, Copasur. We get news.
Yeah, I mean, we just get news. So that's about it. But before we get into all of that, let's start with some viewer comments, because that's always, always. Comments. Yeah, let's take a look and see what was said. A few of them on the road trip. So we they. Like that idea? Yeah, Chad Scott, I think JY and I would have a great road trip, maybe some sports talk, but otherwise just us and our thoughts. In the road. Who is it? Who is this commenter?
This was looks like Chad Scott. Or Chad. You have two first names, but I won't judge you for. It Yeah, I have a hard rule it's no dudes in the car with two first names I. Don't even. Really. Buy that rule? No, definitely not Ricky. At Alex Frank, so we're 2 for two or Alex Franks, I don't know. Either way, close enough. JY and I would get along on a road trip. Well, I'm just getting along with everybody I guess. Y'all acting like I was the.
Worst easy there Loquay. How is Jon pretending he's some sort of stoic Rd. tripper? Jon not talking? Really. People don't get to finish their sentences around Jon. Dude, you're not Jr. There we go. That's more like it. Yeah, me and Jr. whatever. Fantastic. Actually. Have you been alone with Jr. for like longer than 30 minutes? I think Jr. is a complete different person in. Person Yappa Yappa Yappa. Than he is online you get Jr. going on something man he's. But he he. Takes off.
He really does. This suspend JY and I would fight on the whole Rd. show. You'd be walking. Missus Finn is spicy. Yeah, she would not take your shit. All right at the Clooney's adventures. Great show, boys. If you want a preview of the World Fitness Project, check out Grand Slam Track. That just happened over the weekend. That was, I think it was last weekend, 2 weekends ago when we were in Mayhem.
Very similar set to what World Fitness Project is trying to produce, but for track and field. They had all the money, all the athletes and it was meh at best. So I did some research on this one. If they have signed prose with the with the salaries, they have challengers. So there's like 3 modalities like short, long distance and like sprinting or something like that. And the crowd was meh at best. Look like it look like the West Coast classic, right?
Like certain certain spots you could be like OK, looks fine and then other parts you'd be like no, there's nobody in the stands and Michael Johnson is behind it. The The Olympian $12 million total prize burst for the year if you win your little event. So each like long distance runs like a 3K one day and a 5K the next day. The sprints are like 100 meters, 200 meters. If the if you win your little thing between the two two races, you win $100,000. Dude.
Wow, that's. Got to be more money than any track meet ever. Usain Bolt gets 500,000 for breaking the world record. That's a little different. So it's yeah, lots of money there. I'd have no idea about the viewership or anything. It was on like it was on the CWI think is what I could find. Like I. Don't know. Formally known as the WB. Did I Did you guys know they get every? I don't know if USA does, but a lot of the countries get bonuses like that for breaking the world
record. So that's why they only like lift 1K more. So when they break the world record in the Olympics, it's only 1K over because they so they could just break it again the next weightlifting meet and they just get another $500,000. That's that's why I don't know if it's $500,000 for everybody, but that's why they only break it from my 1K. That's smart. Yeah, they don't in China. They don't put your kid into the concentration camps if you break it.
Otherwise you do. They're pretty rough. They're in China. Let's see what else do I got at CYBYP 60? I used to like you guys. It's one of Elon's kids, I think. Yeah, he, I, I used to like you guys. It had four thumbs up, so you smile, but so apparently five of us. There was also another comment underneath that one. Do you care to read that one? I don't have that one. It says that one. They didn't sound like you, I think. They never liked you anyway. Julian Iford, great show guys.
Question for John. All right, let's hear it. Is Griffin Rowley and his team your main competitors in the Grid League this season? I I don't know what you mean by main competitors. Like are they the best team? We actually won't play them in the season unless we play them in the playoffs. And I actually don't think Griffin's on the team anymore. So, but I don't think he's on their roster right now. Him or Amanda Fisher. What about the the one guy that tried to?
Yes, that's her name. Her name is Amanda Fisher. That's not her real. Name Her last name is not Thigh. That's when your when your handle becomes more important than your real name. That's when you know you made. It I, I don't think they're playing this year. So, but yes, I, I would say their team and is probably our biggest rival, if you will, But I mean, we're a new team. So like, how much of A rival can you be? What about Tommy Soroka, the guy that was?
I think he's, I think he's still on the team. I think he's yeah, that'd be good. I feel much better about beating him than Griffin. I'm gonna tell you right now if I I would, I don't think it's Griffin wins every time. I think, I think it's a guarantee, but I feel much better about going to Soundtroker than Griffin when it comes to weightlifting. Did you do practice this weekend? We did, yeah. How'd that go? It was really sloppy. It did, honestly, it wasn't
great. I think everybody trained on Friday and it's we had practice on Saturday. I did have Isabel on Friday because it was the only time I can get a photographer there. And for our for our little thing, we'll, we'll talk about it too, I'm sure. And man, everybody was just tired. But it's nothing. Everybody can do everything. We were just slow. So we'll be better. OK. Thank you, Crossfat. I want to. I want to like, I want to.
I don't think people understand what goes into like a full match and great like you're pretty ripped up by by the end of it. It's. You do like 6 reps and you're done right? Yeah, but it's just very intense. And then there's not, there's such a quick turn around like you can't, it's not a CrossFit workout. It's like go as hard as you can, rest for two minutes as hard as you can, rest for two minutes as
hard as you can. And you just repeat, for instance, like I'll give you this is what happened this weekend. So I did. And one of the things it's called triad. I did 15 hang kettlebell snatches with a 70 fine rest, 20 seconds, 15 wild balls with a 30 rest, 20 seconds. And then 15 hang squat cleans with 155. OK, you're fine, You're fine. But you're, you're juiced up like your legs feel it and you're out of breath, but you're fine, right? Two-minute rest and then I have
to touch and go 315 for three. It's not just, yeah, go do it. No warm up in between. So like you juice yourself freaking up and then two minutes you have to do that cold. Like there's no, no weights you want to touch in between. And like, thankfully I was able to do it, but but like, I mean, my legs were shook enough that I don't know what, I don't know what this is. He did one KG. Yeah, he did. 180K he did, £400 for three, for what I don't know. For three, dude.
OK, All right, here's the thing. You have I I don't, I don't care what he does, what he did, and how much weight it was at all. You have to be able to move faster than the other person. And there's not one thing that guy can do faster than me. Well, maybe one thing, but that's just a family show. Look Kale, layman's in the chat. Send me Adm spin. I don't have your number, Kale. I don't think that's the real Kel Layman. You don't think so? You don't know that. We do not know that.
We do not know that. We really don't. But John could probably send you the link. We'll never be able to prove it either. Got quiet there, John. This is a reminder. Subscribe leave comments, we'll read them next week on the show. Moving on to some semifinal, I guess mayhem. We got some interesting news with the in affiliate semifinals for the age groupers on Friday. CrossFit said that they were aware that there are quite a few people who did who had expired
CrossFit credentials. One of those was actually at Mayhem for the part of the AFJ, the director of competition, and because of this, the CrossFit is saying that they were going to 0 out all those scores, do the video review, and then add the scores back to that based off of a modified score following that video review. That's caused quite a bit of frustration for some, because it sounds like there's others who. Did it right. Yeah, they they, well, they did
it right. Or they're their like they didn't, their judge didn't have the advanced judges course. And so they got their scores zeroed out for the not having an advanced judges course. Oh God. But yeah, yeah. So like, why is it if somebody doesn't have their L1, which you think you would know, right, versus somebody not taking the advanced judges course for one of your judges? Let me see. I had somebody had posted something. Let me see if I can find it real quick.
I think Hillary may have called it out too. Let's see. Yeah. And that would that would I, I, I guess I kind of get this, this rebuttal, Michael. Michael Walsh. He's cool as shit. He's from the Walsh family. He. Is so yeah he takes he takes ownership. I was OK with with missing my own fault. A massive mistake and misread on my part. I had myself and another coach do an advanced judge's course. I thought head judge needed and everyone else just needed the normal course.
However he was wrong. So what is hard now is to take that people with scores 0 for their judges having an expired L1 or not finished L1, their videos and scores are getting validated. He's raises as high as he can with CrossFit and Adrian Bosman and apparently his is in a different category so it will not be checked and that is the final decision. That kind of blows because you picked favorites. I can't. You opened up a loophole for one, but not for the other.
And I cannot remember if this is the guy that I was talking to, if it was somebody else. There's another masters athlete that was hoping to go to the Games with his son. Was it? Oh, it's him. Yeah. So Michael and his son both at or, or any qualifying spots to go to their age group Summit or finals CrossFit Games. And yeah, it's his score has
been invalidated. His son is fine because he because Michael has his L1. So I think his son is going to be OK but he will not be able to compete with his son, which to me I'm struggling to understand that. Understand what? Why not having an an L1 expired L1 is given an exception, but not having an advanced judges
course it's new. This this goes, I mean this would be a Bryson argument and and probably 1 I would agree with Bryson on is that like if you held to the standard in the 1st place and you just said like, hey, sorry you didn't have your L1, your scores invalidated. Like once you start opening up exceptions, you have to keep opening up exceptions. And so they've caused this problem on their own. And this, this, this really
blows. Yeah. I also really like Michael. So I'm a really pretty biased. I, I don't, I never, I don't know anything about Michael, but yeah, I saw his, his post there and I was like, I mean, it's, I also struggle with like this is the second year in a row that AF JS had something go wrong, right? Like you guys are the, from what I've heard, they're working with CrossFit on numerous things. You're supposed to be like the, the, the ones who know it all how to, how to follow this.
And you don't have one of your guys have the, the L1. I've reached out to him. I've tried to get comments. I've tried to have, you know, people come onto the show. They're waiting until Monday. Before they comment. Before they comment when the when the scores are finalized. I don't understand why. I don't know. Nothing changes on Monday. Yeah, I, I, I don't know if it's Yeah, I, I don't doesn't make any sense to me.
John, what about you? Do you have anybody in your your gym that did the did anything they have to go to a different affiliate to? Yeah, we, we had a one girl, but she went and had a vacation and Scotland at the time. So she did it in a gym in Scotland. And then, well, what they did is they just got like a group around like of all the people that made it. And then they all did the workouts together where they'd like and like had the same judges for each of them.
And like it was just like a get together for these like 4 days. And but it was from everybody around. So they all figured out, hey, we're all going to do this gym and then, you know, segregate everybody else to different, different gyms and it worked out for them. But I'm, I'm in Tyler's camp. I think you, I think it's one of these things you have to enforce very hard and like, if you want to set this standard, then you have to abide by it.
I kind of think it's a bit of like too much hoops to jump through. But if you if you are set on doing that, then I think you need to make everybody abide by it no matter what. Do you think it was an
overcorrection from last year? I I think it's too much, but it I, I'm perfectly fine with people saying it's not too much or it's, it is how it should be. I get, I'm not, I'm not like mad by it, but it, it is a lot of hoops you got to jump through to get your stuff in and or you know, not everybody can get.
I know my girl who's in the 40 to 44 year old division had trouble like we wanted, we really needed to redo the row workout and she had trouble finding 2 judges that could do it on Sunday, you know what I mean? Because she had done them all, but she had to squeeze them in a certain time when these people are available.
And then if you wanted to do something last minute, he kind of didn't really have an option to, you know, so like if you're going to abide by everything they want and you should like that's how it should be. And I told her, if you can't find anybody, like then we'll live with it, right? And that's how it's you don't you don't get somebody and cheat and say you did it right. But I do think it's a lot to jump through, but I understand it.
I'm not mad by it. And I think everybody, I think it's with what's if they're set on this is what we're doing. You cannot make any exceptions. That's because it's unfair to everybody that abided by the rules. It's unfair to everybody that did it correctly. Yeah, I mean, for for every story that it's like, hey, I I checked with my judge or, and they they were incorrect or I
just didn't read the rules. There's somebody that's like I did XYZ above and beyond what I had to to make sure that this was legit. Like in some cases the the athletes or the the gym owners were paying. The like an extra judge to come in on a Sunday to judge these people or to pick get their judges course. Like, you know, it's one thing if you're at a mayhem, right, and you have AFJ and you have a bunch of athletes or wherever
you know that has has a bunch. But if you're a small affiliate with one member, like there might be, there might not have another, there might not be two L ones if you're a super small affiliate, right? Or or what if you are the you're the owner and you're the only one that has your L1 right? Like mean you got to go find. Like that? Yeah. You got to go find two people that has an L1 somewhere nearby to make sure that you can do. This I agree. I think it's a lot.
I think they over swung definitely in this. It also like is a weird invalidation on the entire process because like you have essentially have all these crazy level of reviews. You have, you know, you're supposed to have two judges. I think that's redundant in and of itself, but OK, you have two judges and then you have the community and if the community downloads it enough, it then
goes through review to that. And it's like, so you're saying because 1 judge wasn't there of part of a three-part judge process, really a four part judge process, but one wasn't there that you can't catch the bads. Like that's crazy to me. It's just. And you also have to make your videos public like it's, it's, I mean, I think, I think that by itself is good enough, honestly. In Michael's case, like if I'm, if I'm HQ, I'm going through at
least the top qualifiers. And then if you have any weird outliers, that's like they only hit, they only got like, you know, top 100 on this one workout. You go check those and then you're probably good. Like you don't have to do this for everybody. So invalidating somebody who's like, I don't know, 600th on the leaderboard, not a big deal. Like don't invalidate them, Only invalidate the ones that are like are super important or like review those ones that are super important.
So it's like this seems like an easy way out. They could have just been like, hey, we'll review these if they're they're within this, but if not, like we'll just leave them good because it really doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, I, I think first of all, I think especially too far are trying to keep to make it right in the gym.
I I think in practicality, and we've seen Hiller find it like they're either lying about who they were as a judge, right, because they didn't have, they couldn't get a second person in there, or they're still like, he's just put the person to look like JY. Or at least he had the same shorts and shirt on as JY doing the half reps on the shoulder to overhead. Do you see that? Yeah, I think he's reps for a lot more half than mine.
I think. I think if you, if you want to call like that's fine If you want to be a Dick about my reps, but like, let's let's be honest, like these were at least five 6th reps like you. I don't think you, I don't think you were in the same boat. That's cool. You chooses 6th as the denominator. You be you be you, because that's what it is. Listen, I got big biceps, guys. That's what locked out looks like. OK? Look, do you own those shorts? No, I don't.
I don't. Is that Sean Young I. Don't. I'm that color. No, I don't see the resemblance. But you go ahead. You want me? You want me to take a video of people who can't squat past parallel? Just send it to you every time that happens. I thought that was drunk. What's also crazy is how wide his grip is. Like you're already like you're already pushing it bro, and then you're just not going to finish the Rep. Yeah. The judges, though, definitely all over it, though.
Yeah. So I mean, you go through all of that and it's not solving it. Shout out to Hiller for expanding his repertoire. He finally has started to veer into the The Office references. He he, he hated that for a long time, yeah. The office is amazing, man, and it's filled. It's filled with wonders. I and then like the video review, I know you guys have talked about it on on Sivan like on Friday night and the update
show. I I think it's masters, so we don't know how it's going to actually work. Yeah, we got two out two out of the four layers. So that that is a good Rep. I don't know how I feel about the the community judging, but I think we have to see it play out on individuals because I mean, I took the judges course. I watched a few. First of all, it's boring. Like I can guarantee people are not watching a 20 minute video legitimately, right? Like it is.
You're not going to waste hours of your day doing it. I think people are going through and just like not liking somebody and hitting it. I think we what we all called for is just making them public so that when somebody did get a penalty, we can go back and look at what CrossFit was looking at, right? Like if when Paige Powers got her penalty or Sidney Wells or Pat Veldner, we want to see what
the actual video was. So do you think the answer is to make your videos public but not able to like vote on and then that way we can see it the social. Media process of this will work fine, like #1 Hitler exists and he's going to give anybody shine that that veers off the path. And so then CrossFit sees that and goes and checks it if if the community's talking about it, it's bad. Didn't didn't Kyle Ruth wasn't he complaining about it because
he got a bunch of down votes? I think he I saw that he had his approved like all of his workouts. Yeah, it's like it doesn't it doesn't mean that you're going to get a penalty. But if you are definitely a note more notable name. You're the one that is getting looked at, right? Either, I mean, who are we going to pull up? You had to pull up a really bad
workout. You're going to have that looked at like if you are, you know, top 20 everywhere and then you have 100th or the OR the inverse, your 100th everywhere in the second place on one, you're going to have that viewed at. But unless you're hip and steal pan chick Kyle roots like somebody that you know, Jason Grubb, people aren't going through the masters.
They may go a little bit more through individuals, but I think we just want to be able to see what they're posting and that's it. They don't need to go through that extra layer. So I don't know would you have well, how would you handle the Tyler in in this situation? Me, if I'm opening up a loophole, I'm allowed. I'm, I'm going to give other people loopholes because you, you brought that on yourself. I, you can't, you can't pick favorites. And that's sort of what they
did. I mean, I would handle it exactly like I said I would. I would see who needs to be like who the the key players are, who's on the top of the leaderboard, go through those. And then like if you fall in that list where it's like if you missed one of the of the judges or something, this didn't happen. You didn't know or both of your judges had a judges course but didn't know that both of them needed the advanced, the
advanced. OK, reviewed it like, but then I would say at the end of this like, hey, next year we're not going to be kind about this. This is your warning. We know this is a new process. We're trying to be friendly about it. Get with the program. And if you don't do this next year, you're, you're done. Like, sorry, we, we rolled this out and we didn't make you guys more aware. I don't know which you know how they would have made people more aware, but this is your, your,
your trial year next year. It's all. It's all axis. John, would you just cut everybody out or would you give the exemption? Would you do what Tyler does and give everybody the exemption? No, I think you cut everybody out. Including the AFJ people. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's hard, but I think you abide by the rules that you set and it's and everybody next year will make sure not and go through the right process.
I just think it's unfair for the people if you give the exemptions or whatever, it's unfair for the people who did it right or who went through the necessary steps to do it right. What if CrossFit realized that it may be overstepped and it's it it's a bad process? Then they should pay for it and have the wrath of everybody after they've just cut everybody. That's what this is.
You know, do you think Dave thinks he overstepped the cardio programming in 2024 and he's going to change this year because of that it. Would have been different if we had the sledgehammer. John I. Would have changed everything you. Know what I mean? Like I don't if. We had the sledgehammer. You wouldn't be. Saying I just think you make a decision, you stick by it, I don't. And then if it could be a bad decision and you evaluate after, then don't make that decision
again. I don't like a wish washy way. You're freaking you run this sport. I don't like going being wish washy and just going back and forth because you think you messed up and fixed it after the like I would fix it after the fact. Don't I don't know. I just I think you set these rules, you should abide by them. If it's bad and like you're like, well, we way overdid it. You don't just well, let's just go back like like, I mean, what do we do it like, let's just
change the rules as our. Best, John, our best. Yeah, first of all, thank you Chaz for the 499. Appreciate it. I mean, I think this is where the ever changing like iteration process messes you up, right. And so I think I, I'm more, I learn more towards Tyler's side. Beside, I don't like how onerous it was in this. And I think you admit that you probably you went too far in it.
And at this point, at least for the age groupers, you say, all right, anybody that has an issue, whether it's an advanced judging course or an expired L1 credential, we're going to review it. Oh, Abigail likes that. She wants. To review it, yeah. When I think you'd come out and say, hey, I think I think we may have gone too far right, Like we had. This is why we had the intention to do it. And it it, it in practicality, it's, it's too difficult and we understand that it caught people up.
We're working to resolve it. The other thing I would do is it's good that it happened now in the Masters before in affiliate semifinals happens, I would put Baz or somebody in front of a camera and I would like, I'd get him this close and I'd be like, listen, individual athletes, if this happens to you, we're not changing it. Do it right. We're not doing this again. So. I'm, I mean, I'm fine with that. I, I invited, I invited David Baz, either of them on no response.
So I wanted to hear like their thoughts on what happened. But I, I, I, if I was them, I would actually backtrack and say, I know we said this, we need 1L1 and you don't, you need one person with an advanced judges course as your judges 'cause I think it's, again, I think it's too much for it.
And again, if you're going to have everybody have a community review and video review, why, why do we need to have it so strict when we can see just because you have that doesn't mean that you're going to call it right? So yeah, that's that's kind of where I stand. Before we move on to the big news of the day, I do want to spend some time on Syndicate Crown down there in the bottom left hand corner. That is AQR code.
Yeah, way down there. That is AQR code to register for the community divisions, four person teams. There's some pairs code spin. Just like anything. Code spin gets you 15% off. Is it spend 15 or just spin? Just spin. All you got to do is spin. We keep it simple here. Code SPIN gets you 15% off your registration fee to compete in the community division. Not only that, you get a free ticket to watch the action.
Not only that, when you compete, it's not overlapping with the elite individuals looking to qualify for the games. You get to compete in the morning and you can go watch, go in, watch the the the best individuals in the East compete for two game spots after that. So just 'cause you're competing does not mean you'll miss the action so. Go, guys, it's going to be all. It is. Freaking fun event. Me and Tyler will be competing as well in the community pairs so you can see us.
Have you gotten feet on your team yet? No, I'm taking a girl from my gym, Summer, she kind of comments sometimes me and Summer are doing the open division. No, I've evaluated. I didn't. I didn't realize what my day was going to look like, but it's I mean, I'm going to be pretty roasted everyday. So I'm I'm just I'm doing, I'm doing easy beasy. I want he's open on this, on the community. I think I heard Tyler got Abigail Domit to do the open division. I I did.
That's cool. That's cool, partner. That's totally fine, I think. Partners. A stretch, actually. See, I, I think me and Anton are going to make like bets on like just how much she buries you in every workout and then it'll be fun for me. I'll just watch y'all die, you die. And then me and Summer, we'll just have a good seat. You know what I mean? Black cat, leisurely, 50 RPMS. You know, just just have fun with the community, man.
That's right. Me and you pick the parts that we want to do and then we put it off on everybody else. We'll just race our little pieces. All right, Isabel, dude, I'm going to do Isabel like 7 times that weekend because I have to do a, a clinic and then we're doing Isabel like partner Isabel and then I got to do Isabel like 165 Isabel in the open and then heavy Isabel like before everybody. Is it 165 in the open division
or is it 135? I think it's one, it's maybe 165 was quarters division, maybe that's what it was. But I'm doing a, I'm doing a clinic and then we're doing it again. I don't know who I'm doing that with, but. Are we, are we allowed to talk about have we talked about heavy is or John and Isabel it? Was announced. OK. Yeah, they put it on Instagram. Yeah, we talked about it last week, right, 'cause you. Don't think I remember posting.
That there's still a there's still a few spots, guys, if you want to go against me and heavy Isabel right before the elites go, it'll be basically like heat 0 and then as soon as we're done, heat one will kick off with the individuals. So have you seen who's signed up for it yet? I have seen, yes. Are there some people who can hang? There's a, there's a dude who snatches 315. I'm like, that's a cool guy here. We'll see how you are in Rep 20. But the, the, the, I, I mean, he's, he's cool.
He's thick. He can snatch 315, and he did all right. I'm. I'm so excited for that part. Like it's going to be great. We're literally going to get the like 10 Bill Murray slots and then the elites are going to go. So we're going to have a crazy like here's the. Here's the thing, man, Like all of the dudes signing up are like pretty good at it, Similar to me, you know what I mean? They're just they're they're just really strong, like like like like again, like that guy
snatches 315, right? So like, I don't, I think it'll actually be a pretty comparative heat to the elites, maybe probably even better than the. 1st. Three and then you know, heat 4 might be better but. Think about that. Like, I mean, you have to be able to do it at 2:25. You don't want to go out there in front of the full crowd and then just like not do, yeah, get time. That's the thing, yeah, you
can't just, I agree. I think you have to be very confident you can do it with 225 and those people, you know, I, I, I think everybody will make it under, under, under the time cap that does it. Of the people that I've seen, they're like, they're like 2 guys. They're two guys that I'm like, they might beat me. I, I hope, I hope they don't, but they might beat me. I think dad could beat every single person, including D to 15 and then and then after that, and then, and then after that,
it's a wrap. I'm, I'm serious. I think he might be the best in the world to, to 15 and then, and then it's over. The wheels are off and then the wheels aren't off like the car's in a ditch. I'm telling you right now. But but, but I'm telling you, I don't think anybody could beat him to 15 straight up. Please, Larry, please. Go moving into the house can wait a week 3. Sets of three, sets of five, touch and go at 2:25 and then I'm done. I'm done. Hey, that's worth one shot.
You're 1 opportunity, Larry. You got to, you got to capitalize on this. I'm and I'm I'm hoping for a special guest that people don't know about, Tyler doesn't know about. Nobody knows about it. I'm the only one who knows about it, but I'm hoping for a special guest. Wilson knows that's it, at least. Wilson knows yeah. So yeah, use the QR code down there if you want to do it later, Competition corner, if you look for it again, code spin
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She didn't say retire. She said goodbye. What's how? Much play more than you need. Well, let's see. Let's see what she says. Why is it not voluming? Oh, come on. You got to click the little little sound right there in the bottom right corner. Couldn't reach it. As most of you know, in May I'm taking the floor at the Taurian Pro. But this time it's different. This time it's my moment to say goodbye to this chapter. This sport has given me everything, every challenge,
every triumph. Dominance, that is. Tia to. Me, and most importantly, the incredible community that surrounds it. Competing to be the most dominant athlete in CrossFit history has been my life, my passion, and my purpose. And it shaped me in ways I could never have imagined. But I'm always going to remember and be so grateful for the love, the lessons, and the legacy I will continue on striving to
build. Now it feels only right to bring it full circle, celebrating where it all began, in the place that ignited the drive and determination to pursue this path. So join me in this exciting time, doing what we love and surrounded by the amazing energy my home crowd brings year after year. Very good. For you girl. John, you got your wish, buddy. So it wasn't a wish, it was a certainty. It's a demand. Tired to watch you to win. Listen, listen, I don't know if
y'all don't understand this. If I say it's going to happen, it happens. But you just need to, you just need to. She could have. Retired when she was 83 years old and John would have went told. Y'all. And then she's retiring. Listen, I Albany free making it tea and retiring just if I put ether, it's going to happen. I just y'all just. Need October 7th definitely happened. I had bad. I had bad info. October 7th was bad info. RIP October. 7th. Y'all don't even know what
October 7th was about. It was. It doesn't matter. We know that you were wrong. Nothing happened on October 7th. Yeah. Saying goodbye has to be in retirement. Like, does it mean that like, that's her last competition? Is that how you're reading it into it? Yeah, disappointed. Disappointed. Yeah, Goonies never say goodbye. Just. Damn. Yeah, no, John, you called it. You said Torian could be your last time competing. Go back to Torian, hang it up after that.
It's what it'll be emotional, it'll be cool. I mean, they're going to give her so much love. I you think you think she's more happy and like, like, you know, like happy with retiring and like her career and like looking back on it and having going to be more happy at touring in. Or do you think every other girl who's in the games is more happy because for the first time in a long time, you can count Laura if you want, but for the first time in a long time, we don't
know who's gonna win. And that's pretty wild. And like it could be a lot of people. I mean, I almost think we should do, we should make what's today, April 17th, April 17th should be Tia Toomey Day, 'cause that was the day that somebody else could win the CrossFit Games. Today's the 16th. Is it, is it the 16th? April 16th, 17th in Australia? Boom. Yes, Sir. Spin. You're all over it, buddy. Yeah, April 17th is, is Tia Toomey Day. It's it's like, it's like 8:00
right now over there. Yeah, everybody's waking up in Australia, all of our Australian friends and. I mean, I'm excited. I'm happy for her and I'm excited for the women's field. It's it'll be, it'll be a, you know, it's going to be a great send off for if you're Gracie, if you're Gracie and Maddie, I think you should put her in the dirt. I don't think you should let her win. Question before you pivot into this, why do you think she announced this today instead of
announcing it on the floor? He sells the tickets. Well, not only that, but this I don't, Tyler, I don't. You know, sometimes you're unaware, but you know the barbell spin is on a Wednesday. And that's true. News only comes out on Wednesdays. She could have announced it any other Wednesday. But how do we get the news out to the most people? And that's on announcing it. Announcing it, that's. True, that's true. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, I think she kind of hinted at it her last video.
I think it was kind of there. But yeah, Torian Pro, it'd be interesting to see how tickets sell. Going forward, Matt, it only just when it fits our narrative, it's the only reason, OK. Well, there's some seats, there's decent amount seats. Looks like Albany at this moment. I'm excited for all of it, man. It'll be fun to watch. Do you do you think she'll still take top 2 and then decline her spot or I?
I think it'll be a battle dude. I I don't think she lifts as much as she used to. I think she I obviously, but I mean I don't think she lifts as much to where it's like like she will get hurt in a lifting like for for top two. I'm saying like if she takes a 10th place in whatever lift even event they have that, that is devastating because you know, Gracie and Maddie are going to be top three in almost everything, right? So I, I think it'll be a battle.
I think it'll be really, really fun to watch. I'm going to go ahead and say she does not get top 2. I don't think she's training at all. I think she's trying to win the High Rocks World Championships and she wants to do that. So I don't think she's training for CrossFit, and I think she's going to go to that competition and let it ride and see what happens, you know what I mean? You think she goes out on an L though? It's Tia man. I don't think she cares.
I don't think she cares about CrossFit anymore. That that that is not in a bad way. Competitively, yeah, no, no, if this. Isn't training for CrossFit. I don't know what is. The old bamboo bar front squat, say. Look at that thing. Oh God. Yeah, that's what, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That 12 * 3. That's all I see. I'm just saying she's not she, I'm not saying that she's not going to ever squat spin, but I'm saying she's not going to abandon a running session like she's.
Going to be training. For high rocks and then and then dabble in like her CrossFit stuff, you know? But it's not. She's not training for Tori and she's just going to make sure she doesn't suck. Do you think she does Rogue? No, I think she's done. I think she does this and is like is done done. Completely done. That's right. I say goodbye, dude. I think yeah, she said goodbye. Not like see you later. I said good day. Yeah. So I mean, it's pretty
interesting. I think this is do you think she cares about going out on a loss or a win or does he think she cares anymore? I mean, it's just hard. Like she's won everything and, and she's an Uber competitor. I can't see her going out there and just being like, I mean, hell, she retired and was like, never mind. You're right, yeah, A couple days later, I just. Think she's she's proven man, she doesn't need to. We got the vowels, yeah, curving.
So thinking through, fast forwarded to the Games, we only know 2 two women who've qualified. John, who's your front runner to win the Games now? Man, I think we're just going to have to wait for the mountain to come out to see that man. It's. Forcing this on you so hard. Every day I think we're just going to have to wait and see. I don't think we here here how it how it is. I think I think it's truly anybody's anybody's to have. I think he could be literally 7
different people. What a freaking what a freaking Lucy Campbell comes out with the games like like, I'm, I'm not going to predict that to happen, but. She's, she's like the highest woman on your mountain right now. No she's not. New mountain y'all don't know this yet so I've tried to get it but spin hates it. For some reason John's been balling for this for like 3 weeks straight. I wanted, I wanted to get it out before Tia retired.
I knew it was going to happen and I wanted to get it out before it happened, OK. I wanted it to show before this and no Sprint got his wish. And now it sucks, OK? Like like it was it. I was, it was going to be beautiful. I had this beautiful solilically planned out for what it was going to be. And now it now can't be it anymore. It's like anything happens and John's like, you know, since this news happened, it would be a good time to put out the mountain and spins like, yeah, no.
So can't. We can't. Can't overdo it, John. I I also have a problem. This is going to be a. A bit of a. Damper, a damper on what she just said. I had I, I think, I think I think Tia would have been better off saying I leave the sport as the best CrossFit at Crossfitter ever or even the greatest Crossfitter of all time. I would I would have accepted that. But she said most dominant and she was and as dominant as Matt. It feels like a Kareem Abdul Jabbar Shaq situation.
You see what I'm saying? Kareem won more. He did. And Kareem's looked at as better, right? If you look on the all time list, I got no problem with that. But Shaq, everybody knows Shaq's peak was the most dominant thing you've ever seen. And so when she says dominant, it makes me just like, what? You, you weren't, you know what
I mean? And I know, and that sucks because she's retiring and that everybody wants to be like, T is amazing and she is. I just I think she should have picked a better adjective is all I'm saying. Another back story, John, I, John and I have been going after the the Michael Jordan LeBron debate for a while. And so one day. I don't know if we have been. I feel like you try to bring it up and I don't want to. I don't, I don't. I know we have a different opinion. I don't care to have the
argument. So one day a real pops up about how dominant Michael Jordan was and why he's better than LeBron. And I sent it to John. He didn't really care for it. But then, John, every day still to this day after that, I just get real after real after real of how much more dominant Michael Jordan was than LeBron. They did one, yeah. Like your algorithm, your algorithm hit it.
That's all it takes. They did one where they read off a bunch of stats and they were like, you know, they would guess LeBron and the guy would be like, then he gets to the end. He goes, oh, I misread that. That was all Michael Jordan. And see, if you were a real fan, you would have known that they were not Lebron's in the first place. Yeah, that's true. You know, I, you can do that.
You should do that with just something you don't believe in at all and like but like watch a video of it and then your algorithms, all that and then all. About it and then. You start to believe it.
Dude it yes, and like if you just see it every single day and like I you can pick I can pick little things that like little stats every single day that LeBron dominates Michael in and then if it comes on your algorithm, same thing happens, but it's crazy if your algorithm just keeps feeding it to you how like you start to believe it. It's kind of scary because if somebody controls your algorithm, that's not cool, but you? Do John, I won't be controlled.
Courtney Wiseman boys interrupted as trying to steal your show. Oh. They're on. They're on right now. I don't think they're on are. Can we see if? They're on the format. I think we should crash their show with our comment section. If that's really happening. Because yes, I think that I don't think they would know where it's coming from if we threw them a random word. You know what I mean? I. Didn't think they were doing it on Wednesday nights. No, they're not. If they're.
Doing it. What's? They're not live. They're not live 0. Damn, I think the word should be mountain. But we can pick. We can pick a better word. We can pick a better word. That digs it, digs it, Jason. Yeah, I think Jason and Alan would both be like, what's what's going on, right. They probably like, did he come out with that and that like. They didn't start watching our show to see where they are on the. Mountain Justin and the Justin, it's like, what are we doing guys? What are we?
What are we doing? That happened on Barstool. Somebody started a rumor that one of the employees had a rash and then everybody was just like, how's your rash doing? And he's like, I don't have a fucking rash. That's so funny, dude, that's so funny. Yeah, All right, I got a new game for you. Before we do that though, if you want to get the new barbell Spin No Apologies T-shirt, they're out there on vindicate.com. Black or red, fancy looking. Yeah, they have a relaxed fit.
They have athletic fit. Go check those out. I think they're just I don't think it's a pre selling. They're just out there. So pretty cool shirt, keeping it real. How you feel. How will it feel to beat you wearing your own shirt You rented me? Well, wow. Me well. Wait, so you're saying that you're going to be spin wearing spin shirt? That's what you're saying he's supposed he's supposed to feel bad that you are wearing your revenue, that you bought a a
thing that. That. Advertises his name, that's what. Help. Question it, John. By the way, if anybody decides to do JY Barbell challenge, I will give a free JY Barbell shirt to all of those 9 do. You have enough of those. I do, yeah. I had to order a couple of more 3 XLS 'cause there's some big boys. But I will give a free shirt out for everybody. It's OK if you don't want to wear it, but I'm going to give it. To you make it in vintage. I'm not sure what that means.
They have the like the relaxed fit kind. So it's pretty close. Uh oh, John's done. Oh oh. All right, Sorry. Oh, there we go. We can bring that up, Jeanette. We can. Bring that up. Do we do we get a free T-shirt if we piss people off every time we write an article? That's kind of how it works. I. Can't. Find articles that's that's a good point. I would like to see an article that you would write, John. No dude, it would be really bad. Have I ever told you guys about
my ACT score? Please do. Like, OK, you know, you know how AC TS is out of it's out of 36, right? So, so I have an like amazing science and math score. I forget what they are, but they are they're like mid to high 30s or mid. You know, it's 36 for like, you know, 3335 one of those it but it they're so high. My math and science and then reading was like a 29 or a 30. My English literally retarded like it was 22. I think I got was 22 in it and
it brought everything down. It brought everything down so hard and and I think I took it like 3 times and every single time my English never got better and it and it just I can't see gladly brought everything down. John with them and Zeus, right? Right my it was the only college my English score was good enough for. I went to UK, you basically only have to go to high school. They're like you finished high
school. Cool. Listen, I was like Ivy League, OK, math, science, and my English was Kentucky Mizzou. Subpar. Yeah. All right, let's let's do this. Yeah, Miss Watkins wrote an article titled Grassroots Health Revolution, How the CrossFit Medical Society is Transforming Community Healthcare. In that she interviewed Jennifer Pishko, who is one of the main players, I guess in CrossFit Medical Society, got quite a few quotes.
And then I posted on Instagram. My bad to tell people that there was something out there and then all hell broke loose. From the sugar free revolution. Sugar Free Revolution. Karen Thompson. Pretty sure that's a ban Prince from the sugar free revolution. This article is factually so incorrect. Jen wasn't ever around during the CrossFit health days because if she was, she'd be aware it was so much more than the storytelling. Pathetic. So was I? Was I pissed? Well, you said cool story bro.
That that was picking up for your wife. Oh, you all. Goodness, you're. So you can so much as like step on my wife's toe and I'll pull out a freaking knife. Like I, I, I kind of lose it. But then I really like read her what she said and I'll I, if one thing pisses me off, it's like a bad argument. And this was just so bad. How how you get pissed off with Taylor so much? Yes #1 because he interrupts me and won't, won't allow the argument to like go through its
its course. But then yeah, he also like will just bounce at some point and call me gay. That's what it's. Over. But yeah, she said. It's factually incorrect. Jen wasn't around during the CrossFit health days, so it's like if you read the article, oh John, that might be difficult for you. My reading was fine, Tyler. OK, I was reading Harry Potter and Kindergarten. Get off of me. Jen never said she was around during the CrossFit health days. It's like so she said the story
is factually incorrect. Her quote is factually or her, her little blurb there is factually incorrect. It's it's completely made-up. Yeah, and then Twin Yogi, who is Jeanette's twin sister, then jumped in the the comments. While coming from an author, you'd think she'd recognize a personal perspective when she reads one. Not everything needs to fit your narrative to be valid. So who is sugar free Revolutions Ben? Who is she? Karen Thompson. What? What does she do?
Her name is Karen. Karen for. Real amazing. She is an author, a Wellness rebel, and a fierce living advocate. Of what? Sugar. Anti sugar. Oh, OK, I thought. She and she's a Victoria's Secret model. Really. I don't know. That's what it says right there. At my bio. Yeah, she wrote a book on something. I don't want to opt in so. So she's with BSI? She is with BSI and Metfix. I don't know to what degree.
Yeah, she's associated, I don't know if she works for them or she's just buddy buddy with them. And it's like, I don't really have any problems with BSI, but like Jeanette just wrote this article to talk about CrossFit health or the CrossFit Medical Society and what they're what they're trying to do. Like she, the thing that, like Jeanette and I have been talking about this for years is doing more research in using, utilizing CrossFit gyms.
And that's how Jeanette wrote an article a couple weeks ago and it was about that whole idea. And Jen reached out to her about that 'cause they want to do that too. And so like Jen or Karen just starts to go off and it's like, oh, wait a minute. Like they're just trying. UBSI has stated that they don't have any problems with the CrossFit medical Society or, or competing with CrossFit in general. And then I'm like, but this comes off as a rather competitive statement, like
someone who's being defensive. Yeah, I don't. I didn't understand it. I don't, I don't think even if what if you took it out of context? I don't think what Jen quoted, like her quote, is anything bad about what CrossFit Health was. No. Like I feel like CrossFit medical society is the next step, right? Right.
Like you start down that path and then you figure out how to implement in this, in this case, they're, they've created a, it's not insurance, they're called community care, but it's similar to it, right? It's, it's a replacement for health insurance that they're, they're using the affiliates, I guess is the best way to use to say it, that you can become part of this program with the idea being that hopefully the affiliates, I guess are probably a more healthy group of people,
right? Like your risk is probably lower. I think the whole idea behind the I, I mean, I thought of this years ago. I don't think it was like a revolutionary idea, but it's like, if CrossFit really wants to like boost up how much money they can make. I mean, you're starting to see it like you can use your, your, your HSA or your FSA for like affiliates or like Mayhem even has it where you can use your
HSA for their programming. I mean, that's huge if you can basically lower your deductible or overall healthcare costs because you go to an affiliate. Like you're talking about a crazy value that CrossFit can provide for both gyms and normal members. I mean, all of a sudden you won't care to spend $200 for a membership if you know that you're going to save 4 to $800 on your healthcare every year, right? So that's like the.
General in some cases. Yeah. And it's like that's the general idea, I think, of what they're trying to do, and then also propagating further research into like what CrossFit does. I mean, like, this is the whole science part that we're trying to get at. BSI should be right along with that. If they're also on that mission, why does that cause a problem?
Yeah, I didn't understand that. When I see Karen, Karen who's somehow like affiliated with BSI and she's being very argumentative and very defensive of that whole thing, I'm like, oh, so you do have problems, She said she didn't, But you're fighting an awful lot like somebody who does well. I mean, I still don't understand exactly what Netflix is, and I would argue that Broken Science Initiative is not. They're telling the story about how science is broken.
They're not giving you the science of things in most cases. At least that's how I understand it. Right? Like they're showing how science is broken, which is a story, right? You're not conducting the science and telling you the results of their studies. Well, that's what that's what Jeanette said like or part of the the title and then part of the article is like science through stories. And it's like no one, no one buys anything if they don't understand the story of why this is important.
And Karen had a big thing behind it. And that's what really got me upset is that she number one, she said I didn't understand science. Like this lady knows nothing about me. I would imagine me with 3/4 of an engineering degree, a wife who's a double PhD and have been in the university systems for years. I understand one or two things about science. That's not bad. Dare I say more than? 2 genders. Now, I may not know anything about language arts, but I do
know about science. And so it's just telling watch, I guess watch what happens is this starts to it starts to unfold. It's funny. It's it's just again, it's one of those things where Jeanette wrote the article, didn't think anything of it. I post it like OK and then it then then something happens in the comments like I don't anticipate this at all like. We're just at that here over over at the Watkins household.
He he, he anticipates it. He's like, oh man, dude, we're going to get some fighting on this one. He don't tell me you don't expect anything. I've been thrown under the bus like 27 times by you spin. You know what you're doing. I don't. I don't. I'm just really good at it. All right, John is rearranging Abby stuff. It's time to play a new game. Hang on. Play this. I like the Pukey pick, by the way. That was good. That was a good. Pull you like that?
Yeah, it was trying to find something that made sense. I'll wait for John to. Top 10 game. Top 10 game. We'll see how how good you guys are. We can't hear you, John. He can't hear us, can hear us now. He can hear us. We can't hear you, bud. You got me now. Yeah, yeah. Welcome back. She's getting, she's getting fussy. So I'm I'm trying to. Well, well, this is this is probably the most important part. We'll finish it up. Top ten game. It's a new game.
This time we're going to look at the top ten men, the career, the top 10 most career regional slash semifinal wins. Oh, this is like Family Feud. It is like family. Oh, I like this a lot. All right, all right. I'm with it. So we have a men and we have a women's leaderboard and so basically you guys will ping pong back and forth if you get 3 losses. If you give us three times you lose. OK, well the winner can see if he can finish it out.
I guarantee you will not get the women's leaderboard right. We'll see. If I guarantee it. Although it is regionals, I'm not nearest. Regional and I'm not nearest and and first of all I want to thank Barkley Dale from Apollo Form for pulling the data A1 caveat the mayhem classic that happened last week is included in these numbers. So it is very up to date and so Tyler, we'll start with you. Who is one of the top ten technically 11 men on this list? Rich.
Froning, Rich Froning, that is correct number 4 #4. Nice job. Tyler, John. Matt Fraser. That's a tough one. He is #1 Yep, let's see, I have, I have the stats here. Rich Froning, he, he had thirteen wins. Matt Frazier had 20. Question for you guys, when it says regionals, is this for the world or just their regional? Their region. OK, so OK, that makes a huge difference. That makes a huge difference in this. Yeah, he's not a worldwide leaderboard. This is it.
Don't worry. Don't worry about it, Tyler. Don't worry. Go ahead. Tyler Pat Veldner Pat Veldner is on the list. Barely. He was down there tied for tenth with 10 regional semifinal event wins. John. Go Brent Fukowski. Fukowski is also on there. He is tied for 6th. Up there with eleven wins. Bunch of guys had 11. Tyler Justin Medeiros. That is incorrect. I'm going to go Jason Khalipa. He is there. He is fifth with 12. Tyler, you have one, one strike.
Wait, are we out if we? Get 3, you get 3. Yeah, you're out. Oh shit, Josh, be ready to carry the team. Jesus, there's a whole bunch of people there. That should not be hard right now. I'm already running out of people in my head. BKG. Oh Jesus, that's two strikes. Oh my gosh, Tyler. Good group. All right, Josh Bridges. Yes, let's see, where is he? He is #3. OK, so I need I need. Like 16 event wins. Scott Panczyk. Jeez, you're down. You're you're still. Oh no, no, that is bad.
Tyler. I needed you to do better than that, my man. Why you scared John? I don't think I could reel off all of them. Yeah, OK, good. Can John make it to the end? Everybody, I think, here we go. OK. That was a good guess. No, it wasn't. Scott Panjik's never won anything. Yeah, he's not even the top 30. Noah Olson, that is your first incorrect answer. Olson has seven. He has seven wins. OK, OK. Under over how many? Before John? Before John strikes out. Before we get into it, BKG had
four event wins. Did PAC Panjik even win anything? I don't think he ever won an event. In our hearts he did. Yeah, he's, I don't think he ever won, I think. He got robbed. He got robbed of 1. Yeah, I I don't even see. He's not even the top 100 Tyler. Scott had three. He did, yes. He's 100 and tied for whatever. What place is this? Tied for 66th I'm. Going to go on a ledge here. I'm going to say Lucas Parker. Wow, there you go. That was one I didn't know if. There we go.
Here's my thing, man. I'm like stuck. I have these like odd regions that I have to try to think about, right? Where these guys just won and you don't think of them #2 is killing me though, I feel like. It shouldn't be that hard. It might be before your time though. I don't know when they started, When did I hate that you said that that. 20 What was it 2012? 2011 there for. Sectionalism. Yeah. OK, OK. OK. All right, let's go. Dan Bailey. Close, but no. That's two strikes. Oh no.
Oh man. OK. Dan Bailey had eight wins. There's got to be like a European guy there, too, all right? Oh. Oh. What about all right? I might miss it on this, but I'm OK with missing on this. OK. Ben Smith. Yeah. He's #2. OK, here we go all. Right. And that that was why it was a little bit before your time, because he won a lot of them before you got into it. I gotcha. OK, do. You want any hints? Oh, John gets hints. We get hints.
I don't think that's fair. Like I just let me think, Just let me think. I can think of Australia and Europe and I feel like it's Rob Forte on there. Is that your answer? Oh no, no it's not. I don't like your smile, Yonokoski. Yes, Yonokoski is on there. Job, Jon. Come on, Jon. Man, I feel like Rob when a lot of them. I don't see the comments you guys are missing on the comments. I don't see any of the answers. I'm trying to I don't want to look at the the comments are we? Not going to.
You're not going to get any help if you do, so it doesn't matter. Cool, that's cool. Actually I don't. I've only seen 1/2. Oh, I know who it is. Only only two of you have called out one. Spencer Handel. That is your third strike, John. Dang it. All right, all right, hold on, Hold on. Before you really give us a hint and then we'll try between the two of us. One is from South America. Oh. Dude OK, guy that sucks that. Sucks dude that. Doesn't that doesn't count? I think it does.
Nobody cares. About South America. The last Jason, the last one is the Mayhem athlete. That doesn't help me very much. A Mayhem athlete. Current. Yes. Roman. But you have to think about that. Roman I probably, I probably should have gotten Roman guy. I don't care about it all. That's not even a thing. Like at least Jonokowski's fit. Like that's not fair. OK, But I'm happy with how we did there. I'm not. I'm not. I am really scared for the women. I'm not a regional savant, like
I'm just, I'm. I'm not. I've never claimed to be. You guys are we're. Going to be fine. We're going to be. Fine, I don't think you guys get well let me let me go to the page first. I'm. Just going to think way back. I'm going to think way back in the day, dude, I got. This. Yeah, they just wrapped them up. Yep. So there's actually 13 on here because there were four tied in 10th place. I don't think you get 4 strikes. I don't think you get 5 guaranteed.
You guys do not get 5. I'm starting Julie Fouchier. Well, there's an X right there. What not? Hey, hey. Julie Fouchier has eight event wins. Oh Dang, eight event winsers not on on top 10. No, neither was the men. Actually both. Top ten is 10 wins. You have to have at least double digits to be in the top ten list of either. Right, there's one easy 1, John. Yeah, Annie Storr's daughter. That's right, right? Not the any. Any guess where she would be though? Europe on the list in.
Europe I. Mean I feel like I think 80s number one man maybe #2. No, no, she's down here tied for fifth. 16 wins. So Tia's Tia's number one. Is that your guess? Yeah, T is a good guess. Tia is on the list. She is not number one first, she is not. I don't. She's down here tied for second with 21 event wins. K All right. Is it my turn? It is your turn, John. Let's go, Sam Briggs. Sam Briggs is on the list, and he guesses where she is. I don't care. Let's just go. Don't care. OK.
How am I getting this? Tied for 8th event wins, huh? Laura. Laura. There it is. 10 event wins. John. Catherine. Catherine, she is on the list right above Miss Thora's daughter with 17 versus 16. I am going to say Cara. Cara Saunders is tied with Tia. Good job, Tyler. So there's seven left. Can you get, can you get three more or am I going to be right? I'm going to go. John's cheating. I'm telling you right now, he's cheating. No, I hate that we don't have #1 it's true.
But you know what? I bet it's like some girl from Africa who just won and didn't actually wasn't actually good. Or Latin America. That is country. I'm gonna go Camille. She is #1 Camille LeBlanc. Bazinet has 26. That's wild, I would not have caught that. Wins, yeah, but she remember she competed in the South. Was it South, Central or South region? That's right. And there's like, no, like it was her and nobody else for a while. They were trash, yeah.
They always had to throw in Mexico in there for a bit or Central America, just because they need to put them somewhere. All right, Tyler. This is tough, man. This is tough. I don't think you guys get another one right. I believe in you, Tyler. I'm like blank. Like it's when you try to think of something and just nothing comes to your head. The thing is like my brains trying to go to all those regions and it's trying to do too much at the same time.
I'm getting overloaded. Oh isn't ready? Lindsay Valenzuela didn't compete long enough to rack up that many wins. That's correct. There we go, Tyler. Let's just let's just like boil. Just wait. Somebody feed me something here. Sheila Barden, are you out of your fucking mind? Let's see here who was a good competitor in Europe. I mean, I don't want Catherine wasn't good enough to win events. We already have Catherine. Do you mean Sarah? Yeah, Sarah, OK.
I think Sarah's a fair shot. Tyler I, I don't, I, I have, I have one that I feel fairly confident about that's going to blow Spin's mind. That's a good one. But I don't, I think, I think, I think Sarah's a fine shot, man. Carrie Pierce? No, Sir. Carrie Pierce is not even close. All right, you ready for this? It's either going to be a home run or. Carrie Pierce only had five wins, Tyler. All right, John, let's hear it. Teresa Barnett. No. How did you were you?
Were you scrolling? Were. You. Scrolling, I will hold my hand. That's the only one I had. She's Latin America girl. No, Latin America didn't have anybody that did the regionals. If they did like I, I remember going and doing this actually research I did with Brian, we're going back and looking at all the regional, regional winners and there was 1 leaderboard. If you look at Latin America, I don't know what year it is, 2012 or 2011 or 2013. 20/11/2012. There's nobody there except her.
It's like she is first place in all the events That was the. She won five in one year and six out of seven the next year in. I don't know any other Tyler. That was the only one. Oh my God. She won 11 events. I, I didn't believe it. I was like, there's no way this is right. I'm going to go out on a limb. Well, if they're all, if they're all the rest of them like that spent, that's the only one that I knew that. Was you have, you have. I don't know if the other two
had been on the podium. At least one more podium athlete on there. Oh dude, I think Sarah's worth a shot then, man. Do I want to strike out on Sarah? You we have XS. I have two. I have two strikes on me. All right, go ahead. I know who I'm saying, but I don't think it's right. I'm going to go out on this and I don't care. Sung Young Choi so. No, she has six wins. Oh dude, I was hoping so hard, Tyler, I was. Hoping so hard. John. Jamie. Jamie Simmons or Jamie Green?
That's a strike there, Chief of. Of South Africa. Of just Africa. Jamie Simmons has five event wins along with Carrie Pierce. Cool, is Tyler still in? No, but I'll I'll let him try if he wants because he ain't going to get any of them. I do you like I do you like Emily Bridgers? Yeah, I'm fine with that. Let's go, Emily Bridgers. You go Bridgers. Hey. We're on a board. Crushed the southeast region back in the day. Nice, nice. All right, I'm going to go.
I Let's go, Sarah. That's that's an X. No, she has 9 so she's technically tied for what is it, 14th? OK, I'm the only one letting Tyler. Tyler still gets to try. Yeah. Sure. I'm I'm going to say no, I'm not going to say Emily Abbott. Can we get hints? Yeah, I think we should get hints. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, I guess let. Me just strike out before. We yeah. Let me X out first. Let me X out first. OK. What year was Terasa Barnett? 11:00 and 12:00.
I'm going to say the Africa winner of 11 and 12. I don't know her name. No, that's an X. OK. John, you didn't even have a name and you got in there I. Was and I don't even have a name and I can tell you it's not right. Shot in the dark. All right, man, I'm just going to see myself out. Who John who were the athletes during a What's her face that just married Rasmus or is having a baby with Rasmus? Lauren Fisher, Yeah. Who were the athletes? I would guess her.
Like like Michelle Etondra was really good. From California. Oh, from California, Brooke Ants, but she was only there for a year. Cassidy Lance Mcwhorter. I'm just I'm I'm just no, none of these things would fit. I'm just thinking of people. Emily Abbott, that's. Not that's. Not it wasn't. A China Cho would always win the rope climb event every year. Valley Ro Mobile didn't really win anything but was always good at everything.
Hell with it, I'm going to say Lauren Fisher because we're not thinking of any more by more dominant than her. She didn't dominate anything nice. Lauren Fisher. Yeah, No, she didn't win all. Right. Yeah, Give us, give us hints, man. You got one in North, in North Central, you got 1-2 in Asia and you have one in Europe. OK wow, what the freak are we supposed to do with Asia? North Central. North Central. I'm going to say Akanwali. She's North Central, right?
That's right, yeah. Let's go. What? Yeah, she'd always have a a few home runs. I probably should have said, well, I have an X out right. We I have an X. Out you guys are toast or you guys? I probably should have said Asia's not fair, man. That's not fair. So who's the other one that's not Asian? Yeah, give us the hint. Give us the hint for the other one that's not. She's from Europe, she's also competed in Africa, according to Tyler. And it's not, Oh, Kristen Holta.
That's right, Kristen Holta. Dang, I would have only picked her to win the first event. She won 10 events. I guess you competed for 10 years if she did the first. Win the first one every time. I mean like like that's. That's true. Can we get any hints on the Asian? Is there any chance? One is still a current athlete and 1 is a athlete who competed in 2012 through 2015. She's a One or 2011 through 2015. Competed in the Games one time in 2011. Is Saint Archaea the one that's
still doing it? It is, yeah. Who's Who's the top 10? Hold on, we might can get 2011 dude. I there's no way from Asia. Yeah, just just real, just just just let's just think through it, man. She also competed in the Meridian region in 2015, if that helps the. Meridian. The Meridian. Meridian, 2011. Meridian, 2011. No, she was in Asia 2011 12/13/14 and then Meridian in 2015. So she would have competed with Cara in them. In Asia. In the Meridian. No, Meridian was the European
regional. Oh OK, so she moved. Does she have the last name of another girl that has the same last name? General So that's racist, Judy. Do you understand what I'm saying? Spin you get a pass I guess. Spin what? Is is her last name the same as another last name of somebody who competes now? No. 'Cause there's a girl named Candace Howe. Yeah, but I don't know what country she's from, but I remember that name, but it's not Asian. The the name is Candace. It might just change.
It might. Is this, Is this the one I'm thinking of then? Barkley, Do I have it? Say it. I'd say her name was Candace. Howe but but I don't it. Was Candace Howe. Nice, John. Let's go. She's also goes by Candace Ford these days. Candace Ford. Is it Fjord or Ford? It is Ford, but it was Candace Howe. If I remember correctly, Barkley, you can check me on this. Her name is right next to Teresa Barnett. On the games leaderboard. Yeah. Yeah, I bet you couldn't pick
Tarasa Barnett out of the line. Oh, no shot, Tyler, But I look, I look at the leader. Listen, I have photographic memory of every leaderboard there is, and it's just I just got to catalog. It he ate Rome, look at. There, look at there. Wow dude I got this. Autism comes in clutch for top 10 things. Click on her profile. I want to see these people. I'm not going to win any lotteries, but I know I can pick these names. Oh, that's impossible to see. Perfect. Yeah, I would never.
I would just that's that's dude. I I'd have no If you showed me your face, I would have no shot. To Russell Barnett's doing some box jumps there from the Cayman Islands, so. Nice. So there you go, top 10. Good job, John. I I I didn't do good, but you did good. I mean, I didn't do, I didn't do great either. That was tough. I know, I knew, I know. But like those random names, though, I don't know that they're top ten in victories.
He just. If they would have, they wouldn't have said, hey, these names are impossible. I think you would have been. Fine. Oh no, I would have just said Sarah. I would have just said other. Good. Yeah, all the good. You know what I mean? They they just said, Hey, you're never going to get these. So then I'm thinking, OK, who are the people? Let me tell me 11 these names that make no like aren't a thing, you know what I mean? And that's, that's you see, you
see what I'm saying? I would have never gotten there had a they said. They're they're impossible. Maybe she married. I don't know. I I just count the numbers and that's it. There you go, last one real quick. Copa Sewer. That's this weekend. That's exciting all. Right, next topic. There is a live stream here. It is if you go to the Copa Sewer YouTube channel. It will be live streamed for you all three days in English too, so starting at 12:50 central
time. Sewer and the leaderboard, we went through it last time a little bit. I don't know what that is. Competition Corner has the leaderboard that that updates faster than the game site. Really. It does a bunch of workouts. I will tell you, they're squatting with thrusters. They're squatting with a barbell complex. Wait, there's Echo Bike? What's that? That's that's squatting. That's squatting. What's going on though? Yep, triple chipper. There are some. No squatting.
So yeah, but the seated legless rope climbs, if you have to keep your feet over your hip line, you're using your legs. Heavy as belt that he's got, these these South American athletes will definitely have to squat. I I know I disagree. I think it's more deadlifts for them. Oh, OK. And then this last workout, this one's wild. Part 1. All athletes echo bike again. So that's the second echo bike one legged squats, also known as
pistols. So more squatting, handstand walking, more back biking, squats, handstand walk, fastest 10 athletes then advance to Part 2 where there's five elimination rounds. Nice SO. They have to do. Last one walking so I'm like it. Right. I don't know how it's going to work. I I'm afraid this might be like a a 16 hour event on Sunday. How? Long it. How long is it right? 2 minutes. Ran 2 minute time cap ran correctly. I think it's freaking awesome.
Yeah, but if. You trip one-on-one hand, same walk on one. Yeah, you're single leg squat. You're you're done. But I just like that you're going to have to Sprint your bike as hard as you can right in the pistols, right in the handstand, walk like like that's I mean, these are this is a fun workout. I wouldn't call it fitness, but it's a fun. Workout and there's a pure wedding in there. More ability based but but these are I like workouts like.
These oh is it 24 and back? Yeah, where do you see Pirouette the? Very bottom. At the bottom it. Says 1 pirouette each 48 foot segment. So I don't know if it's like you finish and you do a pirouette, I have no idea. But it's probably 24 feet. This one could be, if it's close, this one could be pretty exciting because you're watching like, does somebody drop out? Like if you're, you know, if it's like if there's 10 athletes and it's 8, then there's six, then there's 4, then there's two.
And like, if it came down to somebody having to, you know, win versus over the other person, like, it could get fairly interesting. So there's two handstand walks in the first round, right? Yeah. So 48 * 5 + 48 + 48. That's 336 feet of handstand. Walks. You got to add another 48 square another 48, because there's 96 the first time. Oh shit, yeah. Almost 400 feet. Yeah, that's a lot. I mean, it's fine. It's just like those those last handstand walks are going to be
hilarious. Yeah, it is. It'll be a little brutal. That's the case though. Do you think the best handstand Walker just wins this event and the rest of the stuff doesn't matter? Not necessarily. Cause 400 feet is just is enough that like that just that handstand walk volume. Like even if you're a monster. I think if you make it to Part 2, I'm saying if you make it to Part 2, the I think it's just the best handstand Walker after that, especially with that
pirouette. Do you think the waist will do anything? But you, everybody that made it to Part 2 was able to do them. OK, Does that You see what I'm saying? So and then it's an elimination after elimination after that and you're just keeping on keeping on keeping on handstand walking with the pirouette. I think whoever makes it a Part 2, the best handstand Walker out of that group wins. Steven. Yeah. I mean, 12 calories isn't going
to take very long. I don't think you could get that, you know, I mean, I mean, you get winded up for a while, but I don't think it's going to be depending on how fast they go, right. We don't know how close these are. That'd be the worst though if there's like challenges and stuff and like that delays. And remember the Rogue duel? Oh yeah, no, if it's if it's like Rogue, it's going to be really bad. But if it's, I think if they can go quick about it, it'd be cool.
And then the leaderboard, the women's leaderboard, I don't think other than this is like more of a trivia side. Only one woman, Maria Quintero, has been, I think the individual side at the Games in 2019 when she won Columbia. Where are all of them? Victoria campus isn't competing, Pinero is doing masters. And then who was the 3rd last year? I don't remember. Oh, Julia Cotto. So yeah.
OK. So I mean, there's a handful that have been close to in the past, but it's definitely not a field of of names that, you know, on the men's side, Augustine, Rochelle May, who was just at the Mayhem Classic and finished like 18th Bruno Marines, Who else? Phile, Monsuza. Caiike. Taike cerveny we're seeing Italians there. Juan Ignacio Cerveny, the Second. Yeah. Martine, Alfonso. Fuentes, Pasa. Pedro Martins I think he was busted for drugs that were tainted and got A2 year ban.
Renato Guimareri. You should be announcing this one, John. Guimarice. So again, it's a bunch of guys we don't know. Cali and Souza's there. Bruno Marin's Ben Gutierrez has always been close. I mean, it's probably gonna be fairly close. Hey, hey, where's where's Nicholas Badoon at? Badoon. There's Badoon here. Isn't he South American? I thought he was competing, but no, not in this one. He's in every other one. Dude, Nicholas, this this is
this would. Have been one this would have been 1 Nicholas. Yeah, this this was one that was important. So he's not in the, he's not on the roster. Nicholas Badoon is officially this year's Dejuan Young. Like we're all rooting for you, buddy. We all, we all want you to make it, man. Yeah. Dejuan. Dejuan qualified for the Far East throwdown. So go Dejuan. Yeah, good stuff. So yeah, we, you know, we don't have any rankings for you, but that's because we, we'll just be
making up stuff, but. We're not really analysts. We can't do that. No, we don't know what we're talking about. We're just here to play little games. Just talk. About except of course, for John. John's a the senior analyst. Just let my let my actions speak for themselves. Did that even mean anything? Yeah, I meant it from the heart. Yeah. But it didn't mean anything. Fico is right, Nico is going to Spain for the wildland fest with 79 other guys.
Do they get 2 or one? 2 So everybody gets 2 except for Asia and Africa. And annuals the guy to beat. Next. Next week. Yeah, I I'm just assuming Romans got one, but I'm saying annual would be the guy. We assumed Alexis did too. That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, you're, yeah, that's a good point. Traveling is never easy. All right, I think it's time to leave. Leslie is telling John to go feed their baby. She's she's sleeping. Keeping it real.
Wants to know what happens if you say, say, Kale Lehman in the mirror three times. Nothing shows up. On that note. I apologize to absolutely nobody.