I, the, the athletes are doing what they're supposed to do. It's not the athletes fault. I'm just bored and I don't know what it is. I can't put my finger on it. I, I took like half a caffeine pill right 30 minutes ago because I'm like, you got to freaking try to talk about this now, man. And you can't even stay awake to watch it. Teams, am I right? We need a better intro. You don't like that intro, John? I mean, I, I don't want that intro for the last one, you know
what I mean? I'll say something good this time and then maybe I'll switch it out. I have. One more event, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the final recap, which should be positive. We I think one of y'all, y'all y'all needs to have a good sound bite. I can't. We weren't negative. Yes, you were. Tyler loves teams. Tyler loves teams. I think I have an idea for for the end What? Were you saying Bryson I? Was just saying I can be negative if you guys want. That's true. That's true.
You know what let's catch. Let's catch up with Bella and the the Go Wad team I. Feel like Bella Chiefs a pack like 3 packs of cigarettes between each. She's getting deeper and deeper every time. Oh, I guarantee you that's what's going on. But I'm just, I'm just laughing about it. When I when I left last year, I tried to get home before the snowstorm and I was getting sick and like, I was going to the airport and I just sounded terrible.
Bryson, do you remember? Do you remember last year, Bryson? When you lost your voice at water. Yeah, I I couldn't talk. Yeah, I. Was talking like. This. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I've never lost my voice before. Maybe. People are faking it. Bella is the one who spread the virus. She's patient zero. Patient. Zero. Maybe. Maybe that's. The Bella virus. Oh. Team, go on. What a performance. I've been waiting for the last day to talk to you guys.
Seems like now's the time. Willie, you don't do many competitions anymore, but you are always here at Wadapalooza. What is your why? Why do you keep coming back? I'm just keep trying to follow this really fit guys and honestly it's like really hard. But yes, it's not to be like teaming with two big athletes like Justin and Darin. Last year we did with Justin and Jay. It was a really, really good competition and every time it's a good time in Miami. So I'm really happy to be here.
Justin, normally I can find your coach out in the crowd coaching you guys through this event. Nobody's been able to finish this one. What was your strategy that you went into it with and what happened along the way? Yeah, I mean, we just really played to each other's strengths. I mean, Down's the best on the Echo bike, best on the machine. So stuck that guy on the rower. I knew I can move the dumbbell well and the jump rope wasn't going to. What a dork hey.
But man, it felt really good to be the only team to step on that finish line. Dallin, your best buddy Jason has some words to say. But we've got one event left. What are you guys going to need to do to clinch that podium spot? I mean, we already beat them in more events than Jason said we would, so that's one thing that matters. We're going to come into this final ready to go. I don't think anyone's going to touch us on this one. Heard it here first team go on, Congrats. Let's.
Go boys one. And. What a dig to crash the interview. Hang on, how you gonna crash their interview? I hope. Like if if PJS ends up winning, I hope Justin just like his, sets his dog roost in the middle of it. Did you? I thought, I don't know if it was a forced perspective, but Justin looks so much smaller than Dallin and Willie. I think he is. He. He is, yeah. Yeah, definitely against Willie. Willie looks big, man. That's that's, yeah. Savon's dog's here. That's big.
Dilly, Willie Big. Dilly Willie. Yeah. The guy like at your high school who plays football, who thinks he's like the football player in the movies that everyone really likes, but in real life everyone just hates him because he thinks he's the football player in the movies. Yeah, we, we, we haven't been back for two events. The last one, the box jump rope climb one was over. Do you guys like that one?
The box jump rope climb clean one I liked it I. Like it I I watched the the event 5 but I only got to see the shitty heats go on event four. Who won that? I think it was more important the best heats were the ones to watch, yeah. As it as it as it usually is. Yeah. Exactly who the? The strategy was. Cool, Gee's team? No, they was it Gee's team. Well, yeah, we'll, we'll, let's see. It's late. They've updated the women's leaderboard because nobody finished this last one.
It was slow going. Team NUSA. That's the Astrid's team. Dude, Astrid is full of surprises man. What I noticed about them is their box jump cycle rate was so much faster than every other team. What were they doing differently? They're taller. Well, no, I'll let you know some of it. But like the minute that they left the box, the next one was in the process of starting. Oh, so it's just like boom boom
boom. Yeah. Whereas some of the teams were waiting for them to get completely off and down the box and then they'd then they'd start their process of jumping and it was. They just conquered better. Yeah, it was a quarter second or more every Rep. And when you do that many reps, it just builds. And they got plenty of time.
And because there's no reason. And they were so much slower on the cleans than Emma and Emily Lundberg on the Swedish team, but they they were fast on the rope climbs and they were so much faster on the box jumps. And that's like you looked at some of the better teams like a froggy girls or things like that. They were super slow on the box
drums and that's what cost them. The Swedish team, they got a little bit of a lead just because Emma Tall threw in a legless every now in a game which I thought was pretty cool. Pretty cool Danielle was doing that early on. She'd do legless and then a regular I. Saw an RX or like intermediate team because there's some guy who does Sentinel and he like tags in the story but I think it was it like the 13 1/2 foot rigs that they always have at semifinals like not actually 15 foot.
Yeah, yeah. Well, that makes sense then, because this guy he would jump up like 2 legless pulls as he was bringing his J hook up and then just have like 1 clamp stand and touch and it was really fast. So I didn't. I don't know if any of the elites were doing something like that, but. There was one elite team in the last round that was doing a couple. Dude I don't get why that. Why are those 13 half foot rigs a thing? Like not just a wadapalooza base semi finals?
God, it's not even rope climbing. And then at the Games, it'll be 20 feet. Yeah, like, like they just like 15 feet everywhere except competition. And then it's either the Games is 20 and everywhere else is 13 1/2. Yeah, if for some if you're like equipment limited and you just can't get a 15 foot rig can't fit it, then it should be seated L sit legless rope climbs or at least seated start or just. Yeah. Seated start. Yeah. 'Cause they need just to get.
It's half or no jump, Yeah. I mean. That's how we have a 13. Like we have that rig at our gym and our ropes on it and I just anytime rope climbs are programmed, I don't I don't jump. Dude, it's so much easier. Yeah, so much easier. It's way less energy taxing and like like people think think you're going to be slower but like it just it pays off in the long run if the workouts longer than 5 minutes. Yeah, you can paste better on other stuff. There are some teams out out here.
Yeti outcast Dang. Yeah, it did. Waters. We're Pat. We're done with them. We're they're in 16th. Yeah, I didn't say your prop was bad, Tyler. No, I'm just gloating A. Little are you? Are you defending your prop? Is that what you're? Doing floating. What is your prop? It was on the road to be top ten. Yeah, we everybody, we all took the over and they're, they're pretty bad. I think that's a good prop though, because people would are so attached to those. People. No, I.
Yeah, emotionally let. Me see what it was. And top ten's a great like like. 91% of people picked. If you put top 15 like it's like, OK, well, that's a that's like a weird thing to put out there. I feel top 10 is like a solid number. Broadway girls suck too, dude. There's a lot of. Teams that suck 32nd. How are you so bad at that?
I told you guys what I tell you guys in the last show, we were going to see weird teams do well in this I. Mean so did only only one team finished that last workout. Yes, the entire and it was, yeah, it was. Go on. Do you, I, So what do you guys
think about that? Because I kind of like when in a long competition there's one workout where like one or two people finish it. But in a competition like this where there's only, you know, it's two day competition and especially with team workouts, you already can't tell what's going on. I feel like it's not what's good thing. What's wrong with it? Go ahead, Smith. Sorry. I. Think I'm OK with it if you stage it properly where you could see where people are.
The problem is we had no clue like how many reps they were into anything. Like you're just sitting there watching people. I don't understand why this was the workout where we don't have Rep counters. Like they tried to do Rep counters and all the other workout and this one, they don't do it. You have no idea where anybody is. I know Chase and Bill are are trying their hardest with and they're saying like this team's in the lead, cool. But like you don't know where anybody is.
If they don't tell you they're in 3rd place, you don't know. Like you can't see anything. And all he knows is when they have a hand go up or they they move to the next movement, right. And we knew that on the men's side, Gawad and the Mayhem team were the first two. But we had, I mean, we had no idea if they were getting past or not. It looked like Gawad was going fast enough. We just have no clue.
And so if you have that, you have to have a movie down the field if you're not going to have Rep counters. So you actually have some way of knowing what's happening. Like every five you got to move up or something, just to get a sense of what the heck's going on. There you go. That's what I normally do, but since I wanted to come on some of the shows, I actually watch some of the events. Right. Yeah, it's hard to talk about them and not watch them. Yeah, I mean, I, I like the workout.
Are you surprised that like Hopper pulled every single time on the rower? No. I I'm not. It's 500 meter repeats Velner Velner go look Velner is has a very very good battery. He's got an iron back. Like Taylor can relate to this like. Basically a robot. He can hinge forever, right? And then Adler is far and away the best runner I know. Hopper's a good runner, but he's
nowhere near Adler's cat. You know, in class and running like, if you're like, hey, Jason, we're we need 500 meter repeats, 135. You're going to get 40 seconds of rest every single round because you're never going to be the first one on the dumbbell. And and they were taking 10 seconds like when it was 250, they would go to their implement. So you get 10 second rest in there too. So he's essentially doing like 5 or 7 reps of each dumbbell thing. 500 meter repeats.
I need you to hold a 135. If you have a guy that can do that, that's smart. I'm they should have put Jason on the rower the whole time. Like that was the good, the right call. But just thinking like when you said Jason's not on Jeff's running level. I think he is on air runner. I think Jason's a better air runner than Jeff, but I don't but switching right, but switching them wouldn't have been a good idea.
I'm just saying, you know, if the workout was just running or whatever, I think Jason would be the strong person on their team either way. He's also going to have a slutter strike rate on the dumbbells, Yeah. On the women's side of the intervals, British Frog squad so. Dude I did it. Was this the event Tyler called them on or was did he call them on the power clean one? Power Clean, I'm sure Lucy, Lucy Campbell, Jennifer Muir and Taylor Howe get the event win on that one. British.
Frog stuck it spin. Dude how cool is it that Laura didn't win individual? Dude, it's amazing. Lucy, Lucy, Lucy Winning Wadapalooza is is the greatest thing that's happened in CrossFit in the last three years. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I mean, James Sprague winning the CrossFit Games is pretty amazing, but like a lot of stuff happened for him to win the CrossFit Games. I he's, he's in the echelon. I'm not saying he's not, but Lucy Campbell, to me, it is more of a shock.
I'm completely undebatable. Yes, completely I've. Always said like since the games I've said James Sprague is the fittest on earth but I understand people like wanting to like argue about it or like feel uncomfortable with it. I can understand it even though I don't agree with it. Especially if somebody's like, I think Jeff Adler's fitter. You're like, I get it. Yeah, right, 100. That's a great word to put on it. Bryson. It's it's undebatable.
Yeah. Lucy. Lucy is like that whole thing was, I mean I messed her about. I was like, this is 100% the most all feel good, inspiring thing that's happened in CrossFit. Dude, especially because the most debatable thing about it would be the programming and how Wadapalooza doesn't have a ton of events and they have a Max lift which skews the workouts and no CrossFit event should have Max lifts. But all that does is help Laura so. And the handstand push up event was tame.
Yeah, and she got the Kip. They let her Kip. So. Half of it she cheated. So you, I don't think that's she I, I think she got shafted. But the workout itself is tame. It could be way harder. But if they if the judge had not let her do that from the beginning, it's a much bigger difference. Yeah, and listen, this she did cheat because she eventually got no report, but she was doing the same thing the whole time.
So to Spin's point, she not only like if she got no Rep from the beginning, she should have gotten no Rep from the beginning. Yeah, she's not. In the description though, should it be? Yes, it's not in the standard. We don't know what the standard video like they've all the it's not in the standards. OK, but on a common movement clause. The. Whole point of the wall facing. The whole point of the wall facing was to basically force athletes to do it strict. Did.
Hillary try to Kip a wall facing. I can I. Can you can do it? Yeah, I, I, yeah, I'm actually pretty good at kipping them. If you go to deficit, it's easier. Yeah, it's like if you slide your knee, if you kind of do like a frog kind of thing with your knees, it you can do it pretty. Yeah, more room to go on a deficit. Slide that CAC on the wall. But even with that, it's I think 42 handstand push ups total, especially split apart, is a tame handstand push up workout.
Like if you're going to have a handstand push up workout, it's not. I don't consider that a separator amongst the field. I thought she would have been, she would have done better on that, just given that that was the movement. On Bryson's point about. Olivia found a way to keep her strict handstand push ups. Bryson's point about it the the lift skewing the leaderboard, it does. Like I was thinking it was the only single modality test of the entire weekend.
It's always my opinion. Like if you're going to have a weightlifting test, you need to have a gymnastics test and you have an aerobic test where like you can't just let one group of people hit homers because and Lucy still came out on top. Well I think they would argue that the rope, the legless rope, climb, handstand, push up, handstand walk is their gymnastics test. I know the dumbbell played a big part in. That work, that's the thing.
You can have a heavy workout though, John, You can have a workout. I'm not I I don't disagree with you, I'm not fighting you on this. I'm just saying like the running, the running bike stepover workout is an all cardio workout. I know it's split up in different things, but if they did a clean, a snatch and a squat, would you say it's still
like one thing? Yes. It depends on what it is though because because it could be an all weightlifting workout, but if it's 21159 sumo deadlift, high pool and overhead squat fitness, that's still a cool test. OK, I I if it's a total, right? A total is 3 different lifts and they're all maxes, right? But it counts as one, right? Like in a total, you would say that's the exact same thing as having a Max lift, would you not? Yeah.
The first event. The first event is exactly that, it's just instead of running, there's a bike and stepovers in it. But I think the bike, the bike lends to a bigger person anyway. There is a weight vest in it, which is a less percent of a body weight for Jason Hopper than it is for Jeff Adler. Like I I know they neither of them did individual, but I'm just saying like a big person has a a more advantage than anytime you add weight. So a weighted vest or the bike? Were they on echo bikes?
Yes, no assault bikes. Yeah, but like not but now you're arguing like the way they did it was more advantage and and I don't disagree again, I don't disagree with you, but it's still an all aerobic event that lends itself to a bigger athlete if it was overhead. If you're going to say that's all aerobic. But like they don't say any cracks. Overhead squad that would lend itself to a smaller athlete because it's way easier for them to overhead squat. It's not as clean as a 5K,
right? It's just one thing and that's like, I don't think I don't think you're wrong at all, John. Like it's an aerobic test. It really was, but it gets messy with what Bryson's saying about like, hey, this like the the weight best, the stepovers, the the weight on the bike, all of that shit matters and it makes it less pure of an aerobic test. Every event is going to be skewed towards something, and every event should be like a little skewed towards something.
I mean it's cool when you have an event that is just like holy shit this is perfectly balanced. But there's always a, you know, you don't want the same, the person who wins the competition win every single workout. Like you want to have points shifting around stuff. There's going to be things skewed to different things, but there's just no place for Max lift in A5 workout competition the same way there's no place for a 5K run by itself if you don't.
If everything else is just CrossFit workouts, OK then. Then then I like accept, accept it. Yeah, and the first event was skewed towards like a row of people 100%, but it wasn't just 100% how good of a runner you. It wasn't just a run and the same way like there's. So the Norcal qualifier, if they did that instead, would you be able to go with that? The more more row. The row, then three power cleans and the row with three squat
cleans. Yes. That's not a Max lift, but it's like it's pretty close. It's the same thing. I don't, yeah. The row is so irrelevant. No, no, I I know I it's not like it puts cardio into it, sure, but people who can crank out 90% have a better will will get better in that type of a workout than I mean. Yeah, that that workout would 100% be better than a Max lift for sure. I still would say I don't think like I don't. Think it changes anything. It does a little bit.
It does a little bit. It'll weed out some people who aren't fit. I don't know. I don't think it weeds out people who aren't fit. I just think it gives the 90 percenters that can do their Max forever. Those people will hit 100% of their Max and then people like me will hit 90% of their Max. And I think it'll. Still lift more than that because. You have to do, I understand that, Brian, but there will be shifts.
There will be shifts from that. The strongest guy should still win that, but there will be shifts from that within the leaderboard. But it's no longer pure, isn't it? Just like James Sprague should always should win the workout he did in a 5K run. I bet he's freaking good, you know what I mean? It doesn't. It doesn't have to shift who wins. Right.
Yeah, the the same person could win unless it's like an extreme case like Anthony Davis or something like he can snatch and that's the really, really strong dude, right? He could, he could snatch and clean more than anyone out there. But if they did, if they did the Norcal workout that they actually did at the event last year in person where it was like a you had a 4 minute window or something to run 400 meters and then a Max snatch in the time of meeting. Like.
He he might not win that. So I think in extreme cases, but most of the time, especially at something like Wadapalooza where all these athletes qualified or like the ones who got invited are like games athletes and shit, They're all, they've all gone through tests that have proved they're fit enough to do these workouts and have it not be skewed. Like it's not like you have, you know, cloak off here where it's like he's going to completely like, shit the bed if he has to
row 40 calories. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. No, I. Would you rather a ladder then? I think or. Do you consider that the same? I, it's, I mean, it's definitely better than just a straight up Max out for sure. I don't think it's far enough away for for it to still be warranted in a competition that only has five workouts. See I. OK. I hear what you're saying from a purity of the test, but I like the idea of A1 Rep Max just from a spectator.
It's entertaining for sure. Yeah. It's it. Yeah, it is entertaining. That's more I like, I like. The gamesmanship of it, because you kind of gotta pay attention to what everybody's doing. Oh, Gee, win 400. Is Natfield gonna go four O 5? Obviously it's. Not I wish there was a bit more strategy from that standpoint versus they just kind of load they they know their weights and they loaded it versus like Olympic weightlifting where you do have some how do you because.
I think there's more strategy than people think. It's not just go out there and lift weights like people. You can be smart and weight and Max events and like for instance, like if Emma Tall would have done 10 more pounds and her last lift looks very easy, then she's got like a 30 point lead going into the last event. Maybe she doesn't crumble the. Way she did, I just think it that stuff is moving so fast and you got to finish your lift and then immediately start putting on weights.
I don't buy then get smarter. I don't buy it. Figure it out. You know the numbers to beat. You should pay attention to everybody's numbers. You should know how how many people hit what?
There's a cluster at 340, James. You need 345 because that's what people did 335. That's where I think they should have like the back screen that's just sitting there with a static image, have a leaderboard on there and you can go look at it and say, OK, everybody's bunching up at 3:40 when you go hit 345 or the women, the two whatever 235, everybody was at that. That's where you could actually start having some gamesmanship and seeing it.
But when it's I I hear what you're saying, but they don't have the context of five more pounds is 30 points like. Yeah, of course you lift. They should. You don't have you? I don't think you know that at that time. The the you do 100% you do. And if you don't then you're done.
Like the the the most proud I was of Austin all week was he put 385 on that bar and then like 2 minutes went by and then he took the 10s off and put 380 on the bar because he knew I don't have to do 385. Like it's it's second. I get second place no matter what if I go 380 and 385 means nothing because I can't beat G. And Jack? Barlow and Jack Barlow hit 380 like it means nothing. That's a smart call on his part, right? And he's never been smart. And I was so happy that he did
that in the moment. Yeah, like like I think you make those. I just don't know if you know, like I don't think anybody knew where the where everybody was at from a like three 35340 like that. Like I think it was easier for Hackman to make that call. Yeah, the the cluster piece of it. You just don't know how many. How many are exact of?
Your I don't disagree with that. But if there was a scoreboard up there and you saw where everybody was and you could see that, you know, you're thinking about 3:40 and you see five of them up there, maybe you go 345. 'Cause also you're in that it's. 5. Against. Yeah, if you're in the 340 cluster too, you probably don't have the luxury of being like, oh, this guy's going 5 lbs heavier, I'm going to go 10 lbs heavier. It's like you're probably squeezing everything you can out
of that. Fucking orange. That's the right. You're like, I might not hit 340. Yeah, right. Right. I do. I don't have a problem with one Rep Maxis when it's in A10 event competition. Like if it's at the games and they have one like that, I don't have a problem with it. But I also the games will almost always have a just running event. Right when at the games, when it always starts with a run or a swim or a run swim. Like like I I think it's 100% to have that equal out each other.
Yeah, 'cause it is and it is entertaining to watch and cool to watch, but it's just really easy to test strength without it just being the strongest guy wins. Do you remember the We'll get off of the lifting after this. Do you remember though? I believe it was water Palooza maybe three years ago. Spin. You're going to have to help me with this one. Anthony Davis, I want to say won it. Maybe, maybe Phil Toon almost be it wouldn't be swim.
Phil Toon was at Watapalooza, but they had like this complex of like 3 clean 2 front squats, one jerk and then it was a ladder of that and and and Anthony Davis like jerked 315 and it went like this. And then he was like come here like and like strict pressed half of 3/15. I thought that was one of the best things, one of the best ways to test strength within it, because it's a little bit of a ladder. You have to have really good form. You can't break down and it's
enough lifting. Yeah, I think in total it's like 12 lifts that and then you're doing it for time. I I get what you're saying. I think that's like doing a 5K run, but at the halfway point you have to deadlift 4051. Be like, look, Colton's like, not.
Placed in it Patrick Valner was fifth place it's it's and then like you get the monsters right Anthony Davis Griffin Raleigh they should be there right but then you get they get the guys that like have battery Dallin Patrick Colton and I bet you there are stronger guys that finished below those guys I I know Riley good can clean 385 yeah. Yeah, that's Fair Clock's comment. What's wrong with the strongest guy winning an event because he's the strongest guy? There's nothing wrong with it.
If you test, if you also do a workout where the best guy at gymnastics wins because it's just all gymnastics, and the best guy who's the best guy at monostructural stuff wins because it's all monostructural stuff. Nothing. Talking about equality here.
See, I, I, that's what makes I'm excited about the in person qualifying events coming back with their own programming because what I, what I could see you get different types of athletes and if, if these competitions all keep their style of programming and they are different, we get to a point where. Who produces the best? Who produces? What's the best way to be an all around athlete? Would you?
And then let's, let's, we don't, we don't know how they're going to program these, but like, let's say Wadapalooza, Dubai Rogue were three of the qualifiers. You start saying those athletes and you can see like, oh, the Rogue athletes are the ones that end up winning every single time. The Dubai ones get last the bottom 5. This is a problem with that though, and the Mason's Mitchell's comment. If they're going to continue to try to make CrossFit a sport, it
has to be entertaining. Most importantly. This is so stupid and so dumb. Like to to type this and think it's a good comment. You just have to be just completely retarded because CrossFit is not the wadapalooza, it's not the games, it's not the sport. CrossFit is a methodology of who has the best work capacity across broad time model domains. That's what we're testing. If people want to watch it, people should want to watch it,
and that's fine. If people don't want to watch it because they don't think it's entertaining to find the person with the most work capacity across broad time model domains, then they don't have to fucking watch. But if you want to watch someone who's like pretty OK at breathing and then they're also really, really strong, go watch something else. Make it, make your own sport out of it. But CrossFit? Isn't. Yeah, exactly.
World Fitness Project, but isn't changing the methodology and not and CrossFit isn't changing their definition of fitness because Mason Mitchell's fucking bored while he's watching, you know? Let me let me double down on what you're saying, but then also back Mason up because like I think about this a lot. Back Mason up. No, it there's, there's a good in between because peace score, the whole point of peace score. Oh God.
No, seriously, listen. Hold, Hold. Up for a minute I. Didn't think you were going that way. I'm sorry. Go. Ahead, the whole point of it, the whole idea. The reason that I've that I've created The thing is because I like the, I like the weightlifting events, but if you're going to fucking program the weightlifting events, you need to program a fucking 5K. And so the games, like when we're testing for CrossFit, the open is like base level fitness, right?
You need to be good broad time mobile domains all mixed together at once. But as you go up the tree, semifinals, you know, quarterfinals, semifinals and then to the games, those tests need to become more pigeonholed in. You're really good at this one thing. And so when we're talking about semifinals, I think that semifinals need to be entertaining, but they can also program a little more broadly. But when you get to the games, this is our test of fitness.
It doesn't have to be entertaining. And also, we're never going to get the broad appeal that everybody's like, millions of people are never going to watch CrossFit. Stop trying to like do that. Let's entertain ourselves and know like hey, Anthony Davis cleans 400 and you know, 10 lbs or something. And then, you know, the standard for running a 5K as a games athlete is whatever a fucking good 5K time is. And like, those are usable for us. I don't know what 5K times are. 1730 is pretty.
Early right 1730, like that shit will have us talking all year and then we can use those events and like do derivations of them in our own training in our own boxes. So it's like, I do understand the entertainment value. Nobody's going to watch semifinals if it's not a little bit entertaining. But to push back a little bit, nobody's watching semifinals anyway, so. I think, I think Castro and we and Hitler's comment I think is very, very true. Very true as well I think.
It does have to be. It does have to be easily understood, but you don't sacrifice the what you're testing to do integrity and and and just doing a Max lift is really fucking lazy. A really lazy way to make it easily understood. It's like, Oh yeah, whoever. Lifted the most weight. Like it's so easy to understand. So people default to that because they know people are going to watch it. But it's a shitty fucking test, especially if you only have 5 workouts.
And yeah, like Tyler said at the game, you have 15 workouts. 6 is not good either. I would say the. I would say the cut line's like 12 because you got to make up for it in other tests, I would say. Like I would say like 9. But we're also not testing for hybrid athletes, we're testing cross fitters and who can do it all at once. Yeah, 9 tests. You got three of one, one of each thing, and then six CrossFit workouts. I don't think that's I don't.
Think 2 to one CrossFit workouts and one monostructural of each thing. I think it has to be over 12. I agree with Bryce. You're going to have, if you have 12 and then you have a 5K run. What did they do that you're at the Games 5K run? They had the skills medley and then they had the Max snatching a jerk and snatch like a weightless meet, basically, Yeah. Yeah. So then you have, and then if everything else is pure
CrossFit, I think that's fine. But we're not testing who's the best at running a 5K and then maxing their back squat. We're testing who's the best at doing fucking 5 rounds of 400 meter run and 15 overhead squats. Like that's what CrossFit is. And doing it all together is way different than just being good at it all separately. So it's fine to test it separately every once in a while if you have enough events to make up for it.
And yeah, like Hiller said, it needs to be easily understood. But you can do that with good programming. My argument, Bryson, is that like testing it separately versus testing it all together, is that our entire season before the games is testing it all together. So why are we doing that again when we get to the games? It makes no sense. They've proven they're good at that shit. Now see why they're freaky? Oh, I kind of. Disagree because because the.
Aerobic Aerobic capacity essentially through different movements. The Open through CrossFit. Movements. Right. And then semi finals is like in gym stuff and then when you get to the games everything's on the table. And I think the games is bringing everyone who's proven it together, like because we're limited by, you know, being on different continents and shit like there's regionals over here
and regionals over here. You know, it's not this doing the workout, especially when you have shit like the sleds that are on different floors in Africa than they are in North America and it's not the exact same even if it's the same workout. Like you got to bring them all together to figure out who the fittest on earth is.
This also getting rid of the context that it's like, I don't think that the game should be like the only pigeonholed events, Like it should have pigeonholed events and then like an intermix of like CrossFit events. But I think the problem that people, what they don't like about CrossFit is they can't turn it on and understand what the Hell's going on versus like if you turn a 5K on, you're like, OK, I understand this. Or if you turn a clean on, it's like. Yeah, but it doesn't matter
though. It's not CrossFit, John, but CrossFit is being able to do the clean and the fucking 5K. It's all. There's there's workouts that people who haven't done cross before and never heard of it aren't going to be able to tell what it is when you turn the TV on. But that doesn't fucking change the definition of fitness. That doesn't matter. And we shouldn't change what we're testing just for the sake
of that. Like CrossFit and affiliate owners need to do a good job of, you know, marketing the affiliates themselves. Affiliate owners can take that into their own hands. CrossFit should do a better job of it. And you know, it seems like that is on the up and up, hopefully going to get better soon, so. The good news is we have like seven months to debate it. Yeah, we have 20 minutes till we have the final. Yeah, Team Goldwad really did good in this last event.
They were the only team that finished. Can I say one more thing to Tyler? Yes, 30 seconds. 30 seconds. Tyler. I just have to get this out, Tyler. But I I get your point though, about why do we even have the games if the open was more than three tests And you know, you could figure out a way to test running in the open and test other things that are, that are hard to do online.
But if they found a way to do it, I'm completely fine with the open being deciding who the fittest on earth is. I don't think we need the games like what you're saying, I just think that there's online limitations for things you can test. Sorry, we can move on. Are we on Peter's show? 1 rebuttal. I was, I was 100% going to mute Bryson. He got over the 30. MY1 rebuttal, Bryson, is that the Games is about testing for the fittest on earth, which encompasses. It's not.
I don't want to test for CrossFit at the Games, I want to test for the fittest on earth and those are niche tests. Now we can, we can like I think there there should be 3 events or more at the Games that are CrossFit events, but we've proven that to the season thus far anyway. We can move. Well that just sounds like you don't know what CrossFit is because CrossFit makes you the fittest on earth. CrossFit trains you to be the fittest on earth, but we. Constantly varied.
Function measure. High intensity improve your work capacity across broad town modo domains like no other training program. So the next Crossfitter is the fittest on Earth. When the measurement becomes the goal, the measurement ceases to be good that. Doesn't even make any fucking sense. Let's talk about the teams. Tyler. Tyler. OK. Are you good, Bryson? I'm good. Are you good, Tyler? Yeah, I'm fine. Do you want win one last statement? 10 seconds. No, no, no more.
Wait, we won't. Stop. We won't have 5 seconds. And it's funny because Bryson and. I oh it is. Bryson and I agree more than we disagree, but we're we're we're arguing about minutia. Yes, 5 seconds from going and getting some Oval team. Like just letting y'all rot. For the men, the boys held a six point lead over mayhem. And PJS. And PJS team Gowad 6 points behind them. So the podium, I think, is set. I think that that was a good prop, Tyler, because it didn't happen. What's that?
Will any team beat outside the top four besides these four? It is these 4 sculpted scholars tried their hardest. Yeah, They. They. Tried man. The OK, so they need to beat them. We need to do tiebreakers because if they get 94, they're six points, right? So if the boys get third, we need to do tiebreakers between here. What team would have the tiebreakers? Mayhem has two wins. So do. PJS doesn't have any wins, do they? No PJS are really. And then Mayhem has two wins. Are you sure?
Both have two wins. Yep. The boys have two wins and Mayhem has two wins. Yeah, but the the boys have a second place. OK, but if Mayhem gets a second place here. Yes, if they beat. If they beat, If Mayhem gets 2nd and the boys take 4th Mayhem. Well, let's see then the 4th place would be the next tiebreaker. Do the boys? Have third the boys. Still win. OK, so the they would need to take. Mayhem has to win if they want to beat him by two spots. Or the boys take a third because
it moves to Mayhem second. That's that is convoluted. OK. And then PJS needs to beat them both by three points. Well, three. By 9, by 9, by three spots. The boys, but they just have to beat Mayhem. Yes. So if they get 4 then there's a tie break between PJS and the boys? No the boys win that one so they they need 5 spots in the boys. No, they're, they're, well, four spots. But the the the tie goes to the boys so they need 4 spots. Dang that's that's probably not
going to happen. The boys get fifth, they would need to get 5th and PJS would have to win. Right. And Gowa needs all of that. Gowa is not. They're not. Yeah, we're not one. Dang, OK, I need a text to like Chase and Bill. Do y'all want you all want me to like be on it with this stuff because I think it's going to be really hard to call. Yeah, it's going to be tricky, D Let's see, Let's pull up the trio. Actual workout. The trio, trio triplet.
Ping won't be hard. To call It won't be hard to call if the boys just win. That'd be pretty easy. They're just not going to lose. Travis Mayer's on his team. The trio triplet. See if there's any. I mean, yeah, they should be really good at this workout, I feel like. Yeah. These will perform 150 ping pong wall balls. I assume it's all three doing synchro toes to bar and 150 foot worm lunge. See, that's the thing.
I wish there was something that they could screw up in this workout and there's just not really anything they can screw up besides get endless no reps on the wall balls. Wall balls? I don't know. Why? Because I dislike all three of them, but I wouldn't really mind if the boys won. I wouldn't mind if Tres Leyte's won. I wouldn't mind if the boys. I wouldn't mind if the boys won either. I really just. I think the boys are going to win. I wouldn't say they're actually going to win.
I wouldn't say they're going to win this. This workout, yeah. Yeah, I agree. I just hate there's no execution based element. Well, the ping pong wall balls is that's. A waste execution based. That's gonna be boring. What what? What is it? Is it over something? No, no, no. You just go back and forth like if me and you stood next to each other and we just did wall balls on the same target. And then I sub in for you, you throw it up and you step back to
the side, I step forward. That's so just easier than normal wobble. Really irrelevant. It's 150 unbroken wobbles. The the coordination with the worm, why when they get there like fast transition and then the sink row toes is large, It's basically just because those toes are the fastest if they're not stupid when they get to the worm, but even the worm is just lunging like you just it the only thing you the transition would be the only thing you can mess up. Yeah, I know we talked about
high rocks a lot last night. Did you know if you do, when you go to the wall balls you cannot do a squat clean into the wall balls for high rocks? You have to go all the way up you. Have to stand, stand ball with the wall ball and then squat. Well, you're not allowed to squat all the way down anyway. That's true. I did a competition, I did a competition one time and they wouldn't let us squat clean to start our wall balls and they were crazy adamant about it. Like like is.
Everybody. If you did it anyway, but then they just didn't count the Rep, would they count the next Rep or they would make you come to a standstill? I think they would count the next Rep. Yeah. I mean, it's OK. So what I didn't, I don't even understand the point of that. Like is it because I mean it's easier to see that than it is to see the depth on a normal wall ball? Like just doing a wall ball in the middle of a set, the Rep speed is faster than like squat cleaning it.
You're going too fast. They don't like it. Yeah, I am pretty. Fast I'm OK with it if everybody, if that's the rule, the IT it it seems stupid like what you know, who cares? It's it's the first, it's the start of the first Rep, but it's like, you know, the handstand push ups are measured top to top. It's just like a little weird anchors in idiosyncrasy, but that. That's a little bit different. The more, yeah, the more rules you have, Tyler.
Likes those long rule books. He likes the rogue Invitational rule books. Those are his. Favorite from last year? I didn't know this, but did you know the Tactical Games apparently doesn't have any judges? They just do all workouts that are like binary. Like it's like your sandbag has to get over here, right? There's no judging involved. Yeah. I mean, like, will they get judged on how, like close they are with their shots or how many shots they hit? But that's very right.
Obvious, but that's the judge. Count right? They've they've judged counting. Yeah, I think they have counters, but yeah, I didn't know that until recently. They wouldn't need standards for anything, it's just getting over stuff and moving from A to B and shooting. I think that's. Cool. I think it's cool. It just limits your programming a bit well. It's, it's, it's the tactical games. So they don't need, you know.
For tactical games, it's awesome, but it's not as easy to incorporate into like a CrossFit competition because because I started thinking about, you know, how they the turn around for the open video review is going to be like the next day this year basically. Or is that the semifinal? No semifinals were two weeks. OK so I I was wondering like maybe the open will be something similar like. Semifinals will not have a video. Review. It's just easy to judge.
It it won't, there's no, there's nothing to open. It's pre season. If you're not in the top 1%, you don't get reviewed. But you there, there still is a review process for the winners. Yeah, just like last year. But it's only for the event winners. It's not they'll do that. In like one day. Yeah, they're doing all of the, they'll do all of the review each week. And so let us look at the last week, that last day when you submit the score.
But they're not going to, I don't, they're not going to go down to the, you know, top 50. They're just trying to find who makes the money and call it a day. So yeah, they they may do a little bit more than they did before because there is actual real prize money this year, but. Do you want to pick your winners for this? This one, Yeah. Yeah, we probably think we all put boys right. Yeah, I I think the boys are. In one, yeah. I don't think PJS will do bad.
I kind of think Team Gowat's going to win this event. I think you're wrong I. Think Gowat's going to win this event? OK. Are you putting it down? Yeah. OK, relay salt Bazer now. Oh snap, who freaking called that? I told you teams is what I lived. Something happened, Something happened. I do so much research on these teams and you see the results that come out. I live for this man. I'm so pumped up. I. Don't know what happened.
Yeti girls don't know how to do one of the workouts, that's what. They must have had some type of appeal. Who's the team that won the best workout? Swedish House Mafia. Let's see if we can. They were second the Noosa team. Noosa. Noosa, I'm picking them for the wall balls. That looks pretty similar. Spelled with AU. The power clean workouts, Ben. What's that? That's the one that got them.
Yeah, no, it did. I'm trying to When we looked at the leaderboard before, I don't think I didn't think relight was in first place. Oh, I mean they they are now man, OK. Not by much. Props to House Mafia. Wall balls, toast to bar and lunges. Froggy girls who don't run? Is that Kyra's team? I would say Danny's team. Just picks pick a girl who don't run. That's what I was. Thinking yeah. Who's the other one? Where you at Spin? The women I'm going to pick? Yeti Outcasts.
On heat 1. Oh what? What? I thought you were like at the top for all of these. I'm 16th right now. You're 12th in the 0. Man, way down there. Let's see where I'm at. Let's not talk about every other. Let's not talk about Indy. Indy for you, John. 183rd pretty good. The heat that goes after you is basically your judge in tactical games, so they stand there corralled while you're going and make sure you do all your stuff. That's wild. That's pretty cool. Spin are you?
Do you need something that happened to make you be in first? I don't know who Chloe Chloe Crow is, but Chloe Crow is doing something pretty wild. You're in the top 10, right? Shot caller, I'm talking now, right? Now you're you're 16th, you said. Yeah, the shot caller. I don't think Wadapalooza, I'll say this, this is going to be positive about Wadapalooza. Hold on to your butt. That's good. I don't think Wadapalooza is at fault for people not really caring about the team
competition. I just think team CrossFit sucks and it'll never be good. I think Wadapalooza, the workouts are fine. You know, it's they're as entertaining as you can get for team workouts, but team workouts just inherently aren't cool or fun to watch. The only way they're fun to watch is if you just basically make the individuals do the workout and then you add up all their times. Then it's not really much of a team competition. It's just, you know who's
buddies with the fittest people. We, we had fun with it last year though, because we had team tier all miked up and like we were doing stuff with the, with some of the teams. I, I just, I remember it being so much more fun last year and the team got, they didn't even win. They got third place. There's a lot more trash talk between Dallin and Jason like that. We were all about right. The competition itself wasn't entertaining. It was all the entertainment,
everything else we created. And that's the thing about like Water Palooza and teams in general is like they sort of just self assemble whenever they're needed. And we don't have any of this drama and story. It's like if we actually had teams. And that's the thing about like using the camps, like if the camps had teams all the time, that would probably be pretty interesting. Camps having teams would be an improvement, yeah. And it's like we could.
How would they do that though? Hard work pays off. Can't fill out a team? Well that's on them to figure out, but like if you could shoot behind the scenes video. Hire some coaches. Yeah, you know, have some trash talk or whatever, you know, so and so gets traded. All that shit's interesting. And then like, the competition can pretty much suck, but you're just watching the interplay of
the personalities. Yeah, if you had a Team Mayhem and it was Roman Austin and Gee versus Team Brute Jason Dallin and James, that'd be pretty fun. And then? You just have Team Canada, right? Belner, Adler and. I mean, they're not exactly like that, but. That's what I was going to say. No, but every year it's like that.
Every year. Oh. Dude, this would be such a stack team like and versus this stack team like it'd be fun to watch, but like they're stack teams here in terms of like fitness level. That's not what I'm saying, but like every single year, every year it was the same squad. Like, like and then like there's bragging rights and then we do stuff about there's betting lines like you can, you can do stuff six months from now, you can have little things because the teams are not going to
change. They're staying in these teams. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I completely agree. Watching people on a three person team they've never been on before, like you can just tell they don't care. Well, and I mean, like, look like the Yeti outcast. I know they've been I know they, they they've been killing it until that power clean workout until the clean workout. But like we don't even talk about them because it's just there's nothing really to talk
about. They they are in first place, you know, that's it. Like Shelby, Emma and Danielle and like, I've just when have they ever even spoken to each other? There's just not even like, even if they win, I'm shocked that they win. Usually putting teams together like that doesn't pan out, but it's just hard to talk about them.
Yeah, no investment in the team. I think a lot of the the what you look for in team is who, who's going to fail, Who's going to make that big mistake that you can talk about? Dude, remember the fucking year that they had the boys team and Noah Olson kept missing his overhead squat? And he could have. He could have overhead squatted 265 and the boys still would have won overall. Single handedly cost them. And they didn't even fucking podium because of him. Yeah, it was.
It was like 1st to 4th. That was, that was. Right. And that's that, that that. Was that was wild that that happened? But yeah, that's the individual aspect and the and this people only care like you said last year because of the athletes like being invested in the athletes personally. No one cares about the team competition. Everyone knows like none of these teams are actual teams. It's just a group of three guys who got together 'cause they all have the same sponsor or whatever.
They don't care about winning. The only thing entertaining about it last year was the like this shit talking because there's a little bit more and you were we were a little bit more on the inside with the miked up thing. And you know, to even further prove that point, people would love team if Colton, Taylor and fucking somebody else cool did a team together because dude, Yeah.
And not and not because Chris is cool, people don't know shit about Chris, but because people know Taylor and Colton and they know that they talk shit about Chris because people are actually people know Taylor and Colton and no one knows anything about these other athletes besides that who their sponsors. Are think about Socal's team. There's like 3 moments that I can remember. Yeah, can't see anything. If you think about Socal, what do we remember?
We remember Dallin going head to head against Vykowski one-on-one. We we remember Aniol beating, Was it Medeiros? Yeah, yeah. And then Brian breathing heavy on the beach. And we remember so 4 then the 4th 1 is when the Team USA dropped the worm. Yeah, right. And it was we, we pointed at like, oh, Danielle and Ariel and was it Emily? We're out of sync like that. Those were the the points where we talked about.
It wasn't because they were so great at teamwork and watching Tia and team do it. Like we talked about Tia being out there every single time and helping her team win. But it wasn't team based. It was the individuals on the team that we wanted to talk about. Yeah, here's the thing though, Jules, that that drove up the interest of shit talk. Julia, sorry. Listen, listen, Mama Brandon, let let me. Here's the thing. Listen. Big Mama the. Interest with the shit talk like. No, bro.
The shit talk was was staged. Like it wasn't real. There was nothing at stake. And so it was like, oh, you know it, it was like watching 5 year olds learn how to cuss. It was like, all right. The SoCal teams were better than this though. I don't know, Socal was a fucking flop. Dude they were. They were exciting things though in Socal, but I honestly think the programming was just more exciting. Yeah, you could do more. Cool. Shit, Tyler, you're on a first name basis on a nickname.
Basis Jewels. We're big buddies. We talked. It's like Bella Martin and Austin Hatfield. Has has anybody seen are they going to produce or release the the Socal documentary that they premiered at last night? I. Don't. Know there's a lot of those available going back to Heat 1. I'm going to say the. What's your flex? Who did I say no? No, we haven't picked the women yet. I'm going to say the salt, the salt base for the win. I've been riding them all all weekend.
I'm going to continue to ride. That I'm going the outcasts for the win. I think Noosa and everybody else is going to screw up and Noosa is going to win the competition. They had to screw up a lot. They will not really. It's 13. It's 12 points. Yeah, the women are a lot different. The women have all screwed up a little bit for like the men. The men are screwing up like 13 points just isn't out there. No, this is a toast to bar workout. That's how I look at it. Who would?
Who's the weakest link of toast bar? Shall we kneel? Of everybody, John just picks 1 athlete. That's exactly what happened. Should have toast the bar. I think Ariel and Emily are going to do toast the bar really, really fast, man. This is crazy. This workout is really the most entertaining, but might be the only point of interest for the whole competition for the team side. Because it's like, OK, now we know who might win and who might
lose. Like I'm going to be much more interested in the girls because I probably, we probably know who's going to win on the guys. So it's like there's an actual story here now. Yeah, and hopefully we can see it. It'll be dark there. We know the live stream. We'll actually add some excitement. Julia, does JY, does your wife know you're riding the salt bays? Listen, woman, it's enough out of that, OK? Yes, all right. I think the final's starting here very soon. Bays, bays, bays we got.
Bryson we got. Yeah, Brick Bryson. Froggy girls who don't run. Oh, that's out OK. And I have, I have relate site salt bays for my flex pick just because I think they need to, they need to pull it out to win. So they're going to be up there. Who did I pick for my flex? Let me see here. If you want to make an entertaining, if you want to make an entertaining CrossFit competition where the programming doesn't matter and you want to be able to have people Max out and shit like
that. Something like Kill Taylor where you just have an athlete and you know, the point isn't to test who the fittest person is. The point is just who's better at that workout that you chose that day. Similar to Reps Ahead, I think Reps Ahead hasn't been done super well, but I think it has a lot of potential and the format I think has potential to be entertaining because it's not it does not limited to making sure this is a good test of fitness.
It's just like, hey, these two guys both agreed to do this workout, so have them go head to head. I think that's cool. But it yeah, it needs to mean something. That's where it's. Right. It's just the exhibition every single time. And so you're like, OK, I guess we'll watch it. Well, I think.
It but if there if you had the main CrossFit game season and you had all these CrossFit games athletes that you liked and the athletes weren't completely fucking brain dead, like imagine dude, imagine reps ahead in like 2015, 2016. It wouldn't even matter if it meant something or nothing. We had that. Roe versus box. No, it was. The something crush. No, not crush you had. I was close to the. Yeah, that was the. That was their logo.
Fate Wars. No, there was a different one that they had them all in person and it had like a crowd. It was like a MMA style. They had all the crowd around them. Rush Club. Rush Club? Yeah, I said Crush. Yeah, you got me, got me throwing it. Rush Club, they tried that back in 20/14/15. Lindy Barber. And what was her name? The blonde. His butt was always out. Spiegel. Kenneth the lot. Not everything is a test of fitness.
That's my point. When when you're doing like A1V1 like that, it doesn't have to be a good test of fitness. It's just who's better at that workout. It's just a fight for the but for the CrossFit game season or when you're holding a competition that I know Wadapalooza isn't CrossFit sanctioned, but when you're holding a competition that's like, this is a CrossFit competition and just no one's saying that. I I think that the goal of it should be to find the fittest on
earth. Like these people are training CrossFit year round and those are the people you want to come to your competition. If you're paying them money to win, it should be a well-rounded test of fitness. But. Melissa. Thinks like a 1B. One thing doesn't have. I don't think that has to be a test of fitness. That can just be for entertainment value. What the hell? It was a chicken. Whoa. All right, so you are the new and 1st Rush Club wheeled champion.
What's what's it like? What's it like being a pioneer? What's it like? What do you feel right now? Adaptive. They were ahead of their time. We didn't need to hear that anyway. No, it wasn't. It wasn't that good. Male dos is who I was thinking of, not Ellie Kapoor. Yeah. They got they got really big into the adaptive after like the elites seem to not pan out. Yeah, same dancer was there. They had big names, biggish names. The barbell shrug guys were there caught like they did a podcast.
Like, live on the spot, there's mail. Yeah, there's had a bunch of promos. David went and guesses. I hate Rogue. I have no idea why he's guessing that. Cuz it's heavy. You tend to talk bad about heavy things. I don't I, I don't think you're biased, but you know, I don't, I don't you, you come off that way sometimes. I don't hate heavy things, I hate skewed things and in the CrossFit event space the most common skewed way that they go with competitions is too heavy
or Max lifts. I would hate Wadapalooza if it was all. If it was 4 CrossFit workouts plus 30 ring muscles for time I would say it's fucking dumb. Dan Taminsky. Dan Taminsky with the belt. What a call. Christmas Abbott. How about that? I I don't care about her. I always like Dan. He always looked like he was like. OK, Bryson, I I get the same stuff with endurance things. Like people think I hate endurance things and I don't at all. I'm just not good at them. Yeah, yeah, same thing.
I mean I would hate if Wadapalooza had a 5K round and then a bunch of CrossFit workouts. Like it would be just dumb. I just think it's the most common fault with programming is people want to test want to do Max lifts because it's entertaining to watch. But I really like rogue have. We started yet how close are we to get in the stream? Well, that's a whole different question. Can we? No. Would it be possible? And if the answer is no, that's OK Brian, you are the boss.
You are the boss. OK? I need you to know that before I ask you this question. He needs to tell you that you're the boss. Well, I need, I need you. I need you to know that I understand that you are the boss 6. Minutes, apparently. Would it be? Possible to end the next podcast before the Chiefs game? You can leave whenever you want. I cannot, Tyler. Why not? When does the Chiefs game start? I think like 550. When does the? No shot you can in the podcast before that.
Yeah, we'll basically finish the workout and then we'll have to go on. What time? What time is it? Ah, it's 4:00 dude. They're about to start. 615 is when it will end, John. Eastern. Central. This workout's going to take two hours. Yes. Dad. All right, Why does this workout take that long? Why do you want to watch football? I enjoy the NFL, Bryson. Because there are. That enjoys it. A very good friend of mine is a very die hard Bills fan and me and my wife are from Missouri
and we like. The Chiefs, so that makes them connected to the Bills that. Makes sense? No, we we like the Chiefs and I have a good friend who's from Buffalo and he loves the Bills. It's it's, it's a meaningful game. The reason it takes two hours John is I think there's 4 heats and the time cap is 12 minutes. So. That's 48 minutes plus 12 minutes of transition between heats. That's so gay. Cuts. They should have had cuts. All right, that's fine. I'm here for it. I'm committed, OK.
Good. We'll try to keep Tyler and Bryson out of arguing about the. Second-half. Sorry. About that I'm not sorry. It's OK. I think we found a way every single team podcast to not talk about teams for like. Hey, yeah, everyone in the comments, whether you agree with me or not, would you rather have have me argue about that or watch the team competition? I think we know the answer.
I was entertained. I just needed to be prepared for it. I need to get some food like next time it's coming I need to. I don't even think any of us really disagreed. We were just like all we wanted to say. Our point? Of logistics, I'm pretty sure Tyler and Bryson agreed on 95% of the things they were saying, but we're talking differently each way and arguing different points each time. But I heard the same words over and over again. All right, Melanie is that's it's trans.
Is that better? That's so trans. I hate that. Have you cleaned up your your office there? I have, I have, I have. Look, no, no drinks. Look at that. Just my Bible. Look at there. Good, good House broken. All right, we'll see you guys in man to sleep mask. Whatever John just said. He was muted. We'll see you guys at 7:15 Eastern right after the final event to say how much we love the team competition and that's it. I apologize to absolutely nobody. And NFL.