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Peter Ellis Joins; North America East Preview Show

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Peter Ellis lived up to John Young's predictions (and Rookie Hill) and earned his first trip to the CrossFit Games. The crew then looks back at the North America West and Oceania Semifinal and gives their takeaways from the week. Plus, John looks at what he got right and what he got wrong. Then, we look ahead to the final week of the 2024 CrossFit Semifinals. On tap, the Syndicate Crown hosts the North America East Semifinal along with the South America and Africa Semifinals.

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John needs a break man. He has been podcasting all day. Has he? I saw him. I know he was on Bill and Chase's. But I don't know what was. Going on. All right, I want to. I want to say he was on Savants. So week two of the spin without the actual spin here and now John's on his way. So we're trying to catch up. But we got myself, Tyler Watkins, owner of the Heat One app. Travis brought the new guy.

I am, yeah. If if you didn't catch me doing the spin cast on the weekend with John this weekend, my name is Travis. I'm I'm the newest CrossFit commentator with the deepest voice you may have heard on Sevon's podcast, Very Deep I. Really want that button that Sevon has of Danielle. He missed it like four times. I don't know, Pete, if you know what he's what I'm talking

about. There's a recording of Danielle saying it's so deep when she's picking a splinter out of her foot or something, but he misses opportunities to use it all the time. And then to everybody's right, Mr. Peter Ellis, the 4th fittest man currently in Australia and a Games rookie athlete, first first year athlete. How you doing Pete? Yeah, amazing. I'm still floating a little bit from the weekend, to be honest. Like it is literally a dream come true.

Like gone, Texas, go on the games like it's incredible. So we, we interviewed, I think most people in the comments will know, but to remind anybody and anybody who's a new viewer, we did interview Peter Oh, several months ago now, I think was it before the open? It would have been like it would have been December or something like late last year, probably because it was after duc down under the. Chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And you know what, what really struck me about Peter, what really struck me about you was like, you had this moment. I I sort of like you were. I'm still getting into podcast. I feel like we've been doing this for a year and I'm still figuring this out. But you were one of the, the first athletes I opened up with and tried to ask questions. And I asked you like, you know, what would what was the plan? What, what you wanted from all this. And you said that you got emotional.

You said you wanted to win the games, but I really fucking dug the emotion that you had in that moment. And that was something else I absorbed again this weekend. So it was for me. I'll try not to go on fucking ever. But for me. So we're in, we're in California. I'm sleeping on the couch at Sevon's house. We've all rented. There's like fucking 15 dudes at this house. It's it's like 1:00 in the morning and I'm like, I have to watch this last heat because

you're at what? What place were you in at that moment in going into the final event? So I was taught on points for 4th. With DU. Yeah, with which John? Is John. Yeah, so. You knew you had to beat him, but you also knew you couldn't fuck it up either, because somebody else might sneak in. Yeah, like I didn't like, like I, I knew it's like lane 2IN front of lane two, it was like, do it or die. Like I wasn't really. I wasn't worried about fucking it up. I was worried I wouldn't.

Like, I'm like, I just, well, I had to send it. I had to be lame too, right? That was that. That was all I could care about. I wasn't worried about anyone else. But like, I knew lane #2 I'm like. And you come out hot too, bro. You get off that bike first you hold onto the rings, then you just lunge until you can't anymore like. Before, before we get to the end, how did you feel like going through the days? Like at the end of day one you felt pretty good. You finished pretty decent in

that first event, right? Yeah, so I was, I was happy with day one. See you in fourth. Day one after that first event. Not a bad finish. Bro Ricky on that run, are you kidding me? He made everybody look like jokers. No offense to the rest. Of Australia. God he. He was absolutely motoring. No, he didn't. He was old. Fast. He was motoring. I'm like oh anyway. So anyway, end of day one, you feel good going into the day 2? Did you feel good coming into

the weekend as a whole? Honestly, no, I came down sick like I was sick for weeks and weeks after like quarters like for like 3 weeks there were like tonsillitis and things I just could not get rid of it. And honestly the week coming into I got like one decent ish week of training and then coming to the weekend. So I was super nervous and like like my even like I I felt better than that before. I'm glad I could pull it off and I gave took everything I had to

get that fourth place. Of my life. She she gets sick like that from time to time and I always tell her like there is this like a super compensation thing that happens after you're sick. Like I feel like you're better for like a week. Did you feel like you hit that or you're like, Oh no, like this is not the position I want to be in. No, no, like I got, I got to the weekend that first event started, I felt relatively good again. OK, good.

Good, relatively good. Again, just a few like things I've know, like I noticed like couldn't hold the same pace on some of the machines I've known I've been able to in the past and just little things like that. It's like my engine wasn't quite as good as it has been. My strength and my muscular endurance is better than this. Haven't been in this life in life, but just like that other sort of engine. So I just.

Wasn't probably wanted a couple touches of of a couple things before, but it is what it is, right? Like it is what it is. I'm like, I'm I still still had the same goal. I didn't change. I didn't give up. Like I still was going to go out there and give it hell. And I'm like, yeah, overjoyed that it paid off and I still was able to get it done.

Pete, Pete, can I ask how did you feel going into the weekend in like a bigger picture with regards to the programming, 'cause I think it's fair to say to some extent last year you missed out on the Games due to the strength event, like the one Rep Max snatch. When you saw the programming come out this year and there was no one Rep Max, but instead of Snatch Ladder, coupled with the fact that now you had four guys going from your region, how did that kind of affect your mindset

going into the weekend? Yeah, like the events this year would definitely better for me like a little bit like more moderate weights, lighter, faster, like keep moving. So I was, I was excited for this year. I looked at all the events. I'm like other than that snatch ladder cause like again, like I know my my strength isn't where it needs to be. Like that 120 is my one that last bottle is my one RM and I got it for one that I couldn't get that last one, which was a bit disappointing.

That's why I had to pull something out of my ass and that last event. Yeah, that'll be nuts. Tyler, I I know you were gonna kind of touch on this, but I know we don't. You have you for too long.

So I wanted to ask Pete, like so the last time you were on the show, you know, you talked about how you you quit your job, you know, you even gassed your girlfriend and you were all in on CrossFit. And and Tyler kind of mentioned earlier you were you were even getting emotional when you were talking about how you really felt that something that you had over your competitors was how bad you want it and maybe how

much you're willing to give. I can't think of a moment, you know, in competitive CrossFit that's more intense than going into the final event. You're head to head, you're tied for the final qualifying spot at the CrossFit Games. Tell me, you know, and, and saying that like the emotion was apparent and watching the clip was nuts. I think you were in tears before you even finished event six. What was the emotion like before the event started? And like, what was your self talk?

My eyes were watering before the event. I'm staring at the brick wall. I could see that look on your face, standing behind the bike. It was it was intense. That's what I wanted to ask, yeah. I have never felt like that for an event before. Like I felt the adrenaline and like the need to push and work hard but it was honestly like I die, I die, I'm like. What are you telling yourselves in the in that moment? Why, Why, what? Like what's the talk going on?

What's going on in here that you're getting so amped up? I just, I, I like, it's like now or never. I'm like, like, I can't express this enough. Like it's everyone's got different dreams and stuff. This is everything I've wanted for six years. Everything like over this next couple months training for the great games, it's going to be hard, but I'll be literally living my dream training hard to compete at the CrossFit Games.

Like like that is that is the IT seems crazy me just saying that like that is the dream and like obviously the job's not finished and I want a lot more from the sport, but like to get that most but milestone after like so long, like yeah, just feels like unbelievable. How did you feel when you found out that Australia had gotten an extra spot?

I felt good. I felt like, like I knew top three would be tough and like when I saw that extra spot, I'm like, like, like I could do this thing this year. Like I really could do this thing this year. Like I've been training hard. I've, I've wanted it like and I've thought I'm I'm willing to go to any lengths possible over the weekend to get that. So we went to day one, event two or day two. You have two events still

really, really decent. You don't really take a hit until that snatch event, and I think you knew it was coming. I knew it was coming, like I was trying to get the best scores I could rise to that event, so I knew it was going to be a bit of a hit to me. What I, what I think is interesting is the cat like the dichotomy of how, how emotional you can get and how, how invested you are in yourself.

And then the stark difference of that in how calm and collected you were when you were, when you were doing those snatches, you weren't like freaking out and acting all wild like you were on that barbell. You were calm and you lifted it like a pro. And it's, it's wild to see that in one person because usually if someone gets emotional, they,

they can't turn it off. And you seem to be able to channel it really well in the times that you need to and then shut it off in the times that you need to. Yeah, during an event, like when that buzzer goes off, I'm like, I'm in the zone. I'm not, I'm not even me anymore. I'm just like, this is the job. We do it no matter what. If we start to fail, we start to fail. Like like I'm, I'm just in the event. I'm just thinking about the event. Like I don't really mid event.

I don't tend to get emotional. I'm like, I'm just in it. There's a job to be done and I'll do whatever I have to. Like I like I'm just in my own lane almost. Last event, you know what you got to do. And so then we bring on John Young. What's up, Petey? Oh, there. It is there. There's the yelling we missed. John, we're, we're getting ready to finish. We're we're going into the last event and Pete knows he's got a he's got to stay ahead of. How do you say his last name

again? Luke Dejong. Dejong I keep wanting to make it a why I I want that J to be AY so bad. So you're going, you full on send the bike you went, how'd you break did? How'd you do the muscle UPS? I'm broken. I think I broke it away, yeah. Tyler. You were the first one to the dumbbells. Yes. You picked him up fast. I was like holy shit, he is not taking his.

Sweet. I had no, I had no idea where anyone else was for that first, like first four sections, like other than Ricky, there was there, but the first four sections of the lunge and I kind of looked across and I saw I had quite a commanding lead. So I'm like, OK, I'm like, OK, you can put them down. Let's finish this off. When is the moment you realized you had won and that you were going to the games? When I when I crossed that line,

it just, it was like crazy. I felt like like an overwhelming amount of emotion. I was just like, I've done it. Like I've finally done it. I'm going to the games, I'm going to Texas. I'm like, yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, to the states before. I've, I've actually, my dad took me over there into that. This is where this, all this CrossFit nonsense started. In 2019. My dad took me over there to watch the Games because I kind of told him I'm kind of getting interested in this CrossFit

thing. I watched the Games in 2019. Ever since then, I've been like, whatever I have to do to get back as a competitor, I'm going to do it. And five years later, or six years later, finally, yeah, heading back. That's that that's that quick turn around in in all honesty. So now what's what's life look like now? We we've I saw like you shaking hands and and celebrating with everybody. I see you're, are you closer with Jay? Yeah me, like me, Jay and Mads, we're all pretty close.

Mads used to live up like my way and I'm good mates with Jay now and to be honest his whole family I'm friends with. So potentially in the lead up I wouldn't mind seeing I'm gonna, I have, I have to figure all this sort of stuff out anyway. If I see what they're sort of doing, I'm guessing they're going to go back over to Proven and train over there. But yeah, this is all what I've got to figure out now, where I'm going to train, what time I'm going to head over and it's all

very much up in the air. I still got to get a visa and all that sort of stuff. Oh shit. Hey, don't play around with that because that that has been a problem. I think it should be fine. Yeah, so cool. You'll go train with them. You're looking forward to going to proven, I guess that it's been open all of like what, 6 months? Yeah, yeah. Like like that's not confirmed or anything yet. I'm just saying that would be that'd be an ideal. Like that'd be an ideal

scenario. What are you looking forward to so much about games training? Just the whole thing, I just like just training as hard as I possibly can to see where I stuck up at the games and then take away whatever I learn and keep putting it towards the future. Like it's just so just the whole thing's exciting to me. I'm like, I'm literally like a young kid. Just like, I don't know, going to a theme park like this whole thing is like overwhelming. I'm so keen.

You guys got any questions for him? Yeah. Pete, did you ever think about once you crossed that line and you saw that Jay was suffering and you had beat Jay in your first, the first workout you had beaten Jay in. Did you think to do like a suck it thing like at the end? Like once you crossed the line and he was still trying to lunge it out? Honestly I didn't even notice him.

I couldn't even see anyone else. All I was like, I was just worried about the one, like I just had to stay ahead and lay two and I was and then once I crossed that line, I was just like, yeah, I can. It's all a big blur, to be honest. After I cross that line, I'll. Be, I'll be honest with you, I there's like it'd be like 2:00 in the morning for us to watch the events live here. So like I wake up in the morning and then I scroll to see the last heat. Sorry, first three heats.

I don't, I don't care to watch y'all, but I got scrolled to. I scroll to watch the last heat, and then whenever you picked up the dumbbells, immediately I was like, no, Pete, no. Like, like, like, I was so scared that you were gonna blow up. But then I saw Luke Deyoung way, way back there. I'm like, OK. Oh, he's good. He's good. Yeah, no, I think I broke them. Like I got to the section 4I realized I had a bit of a lead. So I'm like, hey, don't don't destroy. Like don't fuck this up now.

Like put them down and then finish this off right. If we're if we're right next to each other, I would have held on or come down last to that event. Like I mean it was like do it or die, But luckily I wasn't didn't have to. Yeah, we're excited for you. These guys thought Zach Thomas was going to make it not. Trying to tell them I have the receipt. Don't. Remember, I'll pull up the app right now, son. Session that this man has. I was the only one that had faith in. You.

Oh, you're full of shit. Go. To the games, remember that whenever you see us that I was the only one I'll. Remember. That I'm pulling it up, John, don't. Worry about it, everybody. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm just telling them what happened behind closed doors. It was it was great watching you. It was really great watching the entire Oceana semi final.

It was like we would come back home from from Carson and we would get then we would do a show and then when we were winding down, we would turn on Oceana and watch you guys and it was like it looked like a great time. Was this, was this like a bigger year there? Do you felt like there was more excitement there than than there had been in previous years, or was it about the same? Yeah, no, I think that was like it was, it was going off this

year, huge dramatic excitement. I also like, I think I'm like a a I'm a little bit more well known now. So like and I've and I felt like I had so much support from everyone, like in the crowd and heaps of friends and family there and stuff as well. So like, I really wanted to do well for them. Awesome it. Was good. It was good to pull it off. I will tell you, I think I think Torian had the best environment out of every semi final so far. And like that's been a big topic

of debate. I talked with Bill Grundler about that today, like just how trash Torian made North America West look as far as like the crowd, because like it just seemed like everybody was in it. It just the whole environment was what it was supposed to be. And in North America West was empty seats. They were like why? Why are we so empty? And Torian's killed. You, you'd be a good person to ask this about Peters.

Why? Why do you think it's so easy for Torian to sell out and like North America, East and West not? I don't know, but like Torian definitely like put on a good show and like, yeah, I don't know, it's just a big community thing. Like everyone, everyone's there. Some, I don't know if over in America, like the games is the big thing over there for us, it's like it's it's a lot harder.

It's a lot harder to get over. Like we can't just like not everyone's just going to fly over to America to the games. Like our big competition is touring and then we have like down under the year, like there are big comps. So I think a lot of the community loves to go out to them and just get amongst it all. I think it's the playing. Rogue, though. Even at Rogue, though, there's not a ton of people, and I would argue Rogue is the second biggest competition.

Yeah, you know, in the world. I tend to lean towards it's, it's that, I mean our, we have so many sports that everybody goes to and everybody loves. You have to meet people where they are. They don't want to travel very far. And you know, Australia I is Australia's larger than the United States, isn't it? You pretty much have to fly across it if you're gonna go to like, if you live on the other. Yeah, like close together is what I'm trying to say. Desert.

Yeah, it's yeah, in the middle. But like, you know, we, we all like, like most people live pretty close, like Brisbane's where the competition is. And I'm, I'm about an hour, an hour, hour and a half flight away from there. So it's not, it's not anything too drastic to get there. Yeah. But like Grace and Zane, they live on the other side of the country. Yeah, they're, they're a bit big of a like they're over, but they they've got a bit of a mission over there, but God.

Coordinating that ship with Ricky and then. Good luck on the flight over here. I'm pretty sure it's like the longest flight that you can. Take it's like, I think it was two hours. Yeah. So like that it's it's a massive flight. It's not enjoyable, but it'd definitely be worth it. All right, man, I don't think we're going to hold you any longer, Pete. We, we're big fans over here. Thank you for coming on well, like six months ago. Thank you for coming on this

time. Really, like really congratulations for making to the game. Yeah, we're excited for you. Yeah. Congratulations man. Thank you. Hold it. We look forward to seeing you, man. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, man. We'll see you, man. Have a good one. See you later. Bye. All right, guys. Alrighty, he's so fun. I hope you get some good behind the scenes with him. Yeah, he's, I hope seven I like he gets. Behind the scenes with him, yeah.

I like his intensity, man. It's it's pretty cool that that Tyler, you got to watch event six there when he qualified. If you haven't seen it yet. No, that's really cool. Oh, you did see it. Yeah. Immediate, immediate tears. It was like. Yeah, it was not in the. Morning in in California and I

was like I'm not going to bed. I have to watch P qualify I OK like I've been I've been he's been a a boy since he came on the show and I. And if people don't know, go watch the show that he was on with us. Like you could just, I mean, I didn't think he was going to make it this year, but I thought he could make it like the next year. It's like that's not what you said like 5 minutes ago when he was here. 2 faced. I I waver a little bit, but like he, like you could see it like

just in his soul. Like this is just. Everything that he mattered to him. I don't think I've seen anybody that passionate about it in a long time. Yeah, that's why I wanted to. Yeah, yeah. That's why I wanted to ask him kind of how he was feeling before the event, because, yeah, he was getting emotional on the podcast when you guys interviewed him six months ago. So I can only imagine kind of the couple hours leading up to event six, what was running

through his head. Or seven on and freaking fluffy Duck and Hill are still alive, those jerks. Come on guys. Hold. On I'll comment. I'll comment on this show. But do do not, John. You and I do not need any extra heat right now. That's no heat to me, I'm going to say, Travis said. Yeah, exactly. I don't need this right now. Travis, Travis, I messaged you. I think you did a great job last weekend, to the point where.

I was wondering. So like, for those who don't know, Travis is just like Comic Guy. You do Sentinel. Yeah, you do do Sentinel. So he's just a. A bro that's been around for a while and then what? What happened? Why did you guys jump on the I? I just looked down and I see a snapshot of you and John on twit and I was like what the hell is going on over here? Get in the game right. Well, yeah, first of all, thanks for the message, Tyler. Honestly, that was super nice of you.

Appreciate the kind of words. Yeah, we're, I was just watching like the live stream on Friday like everyone else. And I don't know why. I just had the idea if John was around, like John, do you want to like just like Co cast this or whatever you call it? And 'cause, you know, people had a lot of complaints about the commentary and John was like, yeah, I'm down. So I tried to get on my YouTube channel, but there was a 24 hour delay to live stream.

So we ended up on Twitch. And then, yeah, spin was nice enough to let us on his channel for the rest of the week. And yeah, we had a ton of great feedback. Like I had a ton of fun. And yeah, I'm, I'm not a media guy. It was my first time behind the camera. I'm just a regular dude from the comments and yeah one while though I had a blast. Do you have do you have experience in commentating or something? No, no, not at all. I'm pretty good at it. Isn't it when when I was?

Listening, especially like that little Cliff Colton, I was like, do you have practice doing this 'cause you almost had that play by play thing like that? It did feel it feel it did feel like you're the play by play and I'm the color commentary like like like we tried to set it up like. That but we. Were trying to do that and we weren't at. All no, it was it was literally yeah, it was totally just like natural, which is yeah, it's kind of cool. Like I, yeah, I'm a firefighter.

I'm not not anything in media. Yeah, yeah, maybe so yeah, like the the dynamic, I guess between John and I just just occurred naturally. Yeah, it was it was fun. It was. Fun. I appreciate it. I was like, dude, you should. What you should do is you should go back and like start with zealous games. Where, where, where Brian commentated it 'cause he sort of did it. Play by play. Turn the volume off, record yourself, and then you can overdub it over the video.

And I would just. See seven events of practice. Yes, but I would just see what that that sounds like and compare yourself to Brian versus that. And then like after you do that one, then do crash. And by the third one, I mean, hell, John's right. Like we, we have like 7 more events of this. Like just practice. Like I really think you could do it. I don't, I, I don't like give many people many props, but when I heard you do it, I was like,

you have a clean voice. I used to IA lot of people don't know this. I used to do radio in college, terrible voice for radio and most of it was music and just talking. But like you have a a clean voice and you got to the points that that mattered. And that's really hard in CrossFit, like on a play by play level. Yeah, and like honestly I wasn't even trying to do a play by play.

I think what what I like, maybe just cause it's what I enjoy as a fan watching content is just like a a laid back, like chit chat shooting the shit kind of thing. And I think that's what we were doing. And yeah, there was a bit of play by play. But yeah, so now there's more pressure. We are going to be doing it this weekend for East. But yeah, I think it'll go well. I'll ever. Get back to. You no IDM the I think her

name's Emily O'hearn. She's like the director of marketing or media asked her if we could if we could show the video on on Spin's channel and she she hasn't seen it yet. So. Yeah, I don't. Try. So try Jonathan Haynes. Nice try. Yeah, I appreciate it. We'll go through a couple. Of your comments from the last show this so far I think it's going much smoother.

Than the previous show. I feel, I honestly feel bad for Bryson. Like, yeah, I know, I know that I was irritated, but it's because it was Bryson. Like, like I felt I felt bad for Bryson. No, no, no, no. Because I'm like this man is trying to be. It's nerve wracking if you've never done it before like you don't want. To sound, you don't. Want to sound? Stupid, you don't want to sound, you don't want to say stuff you'll regret saying. And like it's for the people in

comments. Like the first time you do these things, it's very nerve wracking. And then it is. And then for for just the show to be freaking like the like The One Show with Taylor that where he just went off the hook. Like I felt bad for Bryson. Boy. He did good, He did good. Yeah. Anyway, we'll go through some comments first, or now that we're to this part, I don't know which sponsors work I'm supposed to go to, but we'll shout out

the sponsors. Mobility wad Tebow, my favorite sponsor just 'cause he's also my sponsor for Heat One Download go wad mobility first. They do great stuff. Tebow's a good dude. He supports all of us. I mean like seriously, Like he supported Crash, he supports Heat One, he supports the spin. Like, please go support him. He's the freaking man. First comment from Justine. Can Bryson please come on more often? Totally agree with his views on people.

There you go. We found the one positive comment for Bryson. I will say this was this was noted several times, Michael Smith is not coming as he is now retired. I made a prediction about Michael Smith and the future of him as an athlete, and I guess that was dumb. Yeah, Michael Smith is retired. In my defense. Yeah, literally. That's pretty rough. That's pretty rough. The world was on fire and I was talking out my ass, probably like that whole podcast. So I'm going to give myself a

second on that one. The old Watkins curse. Yeah, it's over. It's it's such a bad curse that he he retired it before I said it. Let's see, let me find one with a question here. No questions. You guys are just speaking your mind. Any more questions? Here we will leave today's podcast. Let's try to figure out a question to for comments to

answer. Let's really hey, live comments, tell me the questions you want because none of these comments from the last podcast are any good or they're fine. They're just not questions. So anyway, while you guys do that, we'll move, move on to the week two recap and if I see anything, I'll bring it up. Week two recap. We all had very different experiences of West Coast Classic. Tell me what you guys experienced and what you liked about it the most.

Biggest takeaways? I think the biggest moment has to be cold the moment. And then there's a lot of stuff that like as a whole that I think we could talk about. Travis, you go ahead and go first. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Colton. And then I want to say every time there's a semi final a major event now we're seeing just how competitive it is. I I know like John, you were maybe talking a bit about how Tudor missed out on the games by a second and. For two different events.

Yeah, exactly. And and every semi final now we're seeing like those little instances and I think it's going to be just like turned up tenfold in the East with how competitive it is. We're going to be able to look back and be like, holy shit, if that guy, you know, just stepped with his right foot first or whatever, you know, like just to get across in that split second, he'd be going to the games.

And then yeah, I don't want to harp on it's been beaten to death a bit, but the the attendance so, but I have to mention it so. This is a good point. I love the constant leaderboard change UPS. Every single event that the leaderboard takes a flip it seems like. I say the first between the first three events and the last three it's in.

It's a crazy shake up. And it's really cool that the last, I think CrossFit did a good job at this, that the last three events are all on the same day and it's from one day switch. It's, it's insane. Insane. Yeah, like, yeah.

And that kind of was like another take away I had like, it's so important to be so mentally tough and, you know, assuring yourself as an athlete and have, you know, be able to maintain your confidence because of the way that there's half the competition left on the last day. And especially this year with like the first three events are catering to a certain type of athlete versus the last three.

I think it's really easy if you're somebody that has a lot of expectation on you and you roll into Sunday on the outside looking in to start to like divert from your game plan, you know, and not execute properly. So to the people that were able to do that and like come from behind and still execute, I think they, you know, that deserves to be appreciated and recognized for sure. John, you might not like this, but the person that did that best was none. Other than. Danny Spiegel.

Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. And I mean, I know there are a couple people who ask me what do I think about Danny Spiegel making it 'cause I, I guess, I guess. Time out, time out. Jared looked at me and said, man, John's gonna have to eat so much crow as soon as Danny qualifies. I'm. Not gonna have to eat crow at all, guys. It's OK. Here here, here's. The this is the truth. OK, everybody, Danny Spiegel is one of the fittest women in the world. She earned her spot to the CrossFit Games.

She did that. I don't like her. That's it. I don't, I don't root for her. I don't like her. She absolutely has home run ability and she capitalized where she needed to and others didn't. I will say somebody's telling me about this, like what's John's problem or what if you really go back and and notice like when you're on Sevon's or, or even when you're on here and we bring up Danny, you actually don't really speak. No, I don't.

You do the same thing I do. Like when you don't really like someone. You just don't. You don't bring her up or bring them up or talk about them or add to the fire. You don't like them. There's no reason to to to make it worse, and I respect that. And like my predictions, like I had Danny Spiegel like two spots out. A lot of people had her out. It's not like it's affecting how I think that she will. Do you know what I mean? I thought Kelsey Kill would beat

her in the Snatch ladder. She did. I didn't think Olivia was going to beat Kelsey by a minute. I like like you. You don't. Have no one did I do want to. And that's all. That's all. Why is everyone doing a live show at the same time? Are you guys fighting? I we text Evan and told him we were doing this show before and I 100% bet he did. He doesn't even remember that. Go in his chat and tell him we're on the show. 10 people say that he's. Done. OK, OK. Oh, he's all fair.

We're clear. He. Probably just realized the last minute, no worries. It's no. Big deal. I I commented in the comments. Love you guys. And then it was a a kiss emoji and then that was it. That'll show him. Yeah. My biggest, the biggest, best moments from the event. It was like everything was kind of just limbo until the last day. And it was like Scott Tetlow, like setting his APR in the event on the snatch and then hitting it twice and finishing hanging with the athletes.

Like they come up and they would all, you know, it was like the vibe was really good. But then honestly, the freaking crazy moment of Colton hitting that touch and go snatch. I mean, like your guys emotion in that moment almost exactly matches what it was like in the stadium. Like everyone in our section was standing up and screaming because we saw, like, we saw him get ready to do it. And we're like, Oh my God. Like he goes to the hip. And I was like, I know what he's about.

To do I think the ugliest Ness of it adds to. It who's able to just freaking manhandle 265 like that? Yeah, everything was, everything was perfect. The like context around it, Like he, he was just edging out Brent. Like he had to hit the touch and go to beat Brent. He needed every point He he you know, he could get. It was all like everything was perfect. It was ugly. And like it was, it was so gritty. It was cold. It was cold for sure.

Yeah, it was cool that it was against Brent too, because it was like you could kind of see Brent just go like, well, if you're going to just take it like that, I can't do anything. Like it was mad respect. The other one was the last, the last event and like 5 dudes crossing the line at the same time and watching Sprague, I don't know if you guys could see this, but like he marched from behind.

He was he had the deficit of like several feet and caught up and and cross the line at the same time. I'm still not sure and this is something we should clarify and I'll ask like Wilson or somebody when I get to Knoxville is where exactly is the line when you pass? Like when's the time cut? Because I don't think it was obvious between him and Justin. No I know and I don't. I don't know if anyone knows if it's the mat. Like do they have a chip timer on and the judge has a

stopwatch? Line should have like a a laser thing set off when. You're it does. You're you should have a leg bracelet that sets it off and then there's also a stopwatch with your judge. I I went down and I asked the scoring folks, the ladies. They were sitting right next to the the equipment that does does all that. And I was like, where exactly is it? And they were like, it's at the far end of the red mat. Once you cross that, you're, you're done. But that like that didn't seem

to be true. I'm sorry, Sarah, continue to love on Cole Sager. He's a he's a great he's a great guy and you should continue to root for him. I won't. I I don't care about him. We. Understand that Julia Hannaford touch and goad it it. It's not as big of a moment. She wasn't in a race with anybody. She was dominating everybody. It is very BA but and she was on the outside looking in as far as the spots to get in. We understand that Travis made a mistake.

He doesn't know anything about Oceana. Yeah, that's. That's more like it, he says. Junior. Analyst. Leave. Me alone, aspiring associate junior analyst. People are making a point to be like, no, Julia Hanford. Not because what I was calling it, I said, you know the only athlete, like I had no idea what I was saying. People are giving me way too much credit. It's. Adm thing not a comment thing. You ruined the money. I thought that was funny you. Know.

Anyway, what I I I don't think you should label yourself an analyst. There's too many of us anyway and it's a bullshit title. I think you should go with a junior commentator and then you're not tied to being smart. You just like commentator just means you talk so you can just say whatever you want. Yeah, that's that's more on my alley. Fair enough. My biggest take away is just is just newcomers.

I feel like there were four or five names that nobody really thought of, those names that we were talking about basically the whole weekend. Dude, Trista. Trista had. I know and I trashed her hard and then she like said F you watch this and like freaking murdered it only to get murdered by event six. I was a little bit right about event 6, but but she was so much better than I thought she was going to be. She was very impressive. She looked poised and like she

looked like a pro out there. She looked much, much beyond her years. She never kind of like looked like she wasn't focused. She was just always in the game and I was, I was super surprised watching her. Who else were you surprised with on the women's side? I'm Hattie Cano. Obviously. I, I, I, I thought, I know I said she's got a shot in the dark to make it and I'll say she's the last spot, but like for her to be first place through, I think it looks great

too. I couldn't grow that if I wanted to. I think if somebody said, hey, Hattie Cano is going to be first place going into the last event, you would laugh at them. That's worse than Brian friends saying 3 minutes in the snatch ladder. Thank you to Olivia for making that worse than that. But you know what I'm saying like like no, like I her family didn't think that, She didn't think that. And for her to be in that position, like it's just it's

just pretty insane. I wonder like the stats on that are probably higher than like the lottery. As far as? The possibilities in the world of her being #1 after like with the last event remaining and then and then I mean Kyra Milligan consistent down the line. Her and Brandon Luckett I thought had like a very similar semi final, like just just doing what they have to do the entire time.

There might not have been a moment where they showed out like and beat everybody, but just never losing ground to anybody. And then consistency wins and CrossFit as it should. And then? Yeah, give a shout out to Dome it. She won, like, pretty comfortably, and she was really well-rounded. Like, really well-rounded, yeah. That's all. Weekend. I'm going to, I'm going to bash on her for a minute. The, the, the set up question was not very good.

Like what, you know, basically during her victory speech, they're like, what do you think? Or what do you attribute to your win and all that? And she was like, I, I don't know. You know, that's basically awesome, really. I didn't hear that. Alex. Alex was trashed on the snatch ladder and that's why I'm first place. That's what she should have said. That's what she should have said. Alex was mad at the snatch ladder and that's why I'm first place. That would have been hilarious.

Hilarious. Thank you, Ivan. Ian, appreciate that. I don't work hard on them at all, but here we go. It was Chris. Ibar, Chris Ibar, another guy that was consistent throughout the whole thing, has never had a hole and he supposedly really like not very strong and the snatch ladder was supposed to be the thing to stop him and you know, ended up getting 8th place. Like that's amazing. Yeah, and I was trying to make this point last night on the show. I don't know if you could tell.

Travis, did you watch last night's show? I was. Yeah, I was. I listened to it. I was in and out of consciousness. I heard you say that. I, I had taken so we, we were waiting on the show and I, we didn't really know who's going to go on. I think John confirmed early and so did Jr., but the third was bouncing around and like 15 minutes before. And like he had gone through everybody, he was like chasing. The last every time. Hiller and.

And then, and then, and then there was like a 5 minute pause 5 minutes before the show. Tyler question mark. It was really it was one of those situations. I'm going in, baby. I'm laying down. I I'm in my pajamas in bed and taken a lot of melatonin because I still haven't like really slept since we got back from California. And I was like, all right, here we go. I. Really good for being in that state of mind.

But I was trying to make the point last night that I don't think we can see breakthrough through successes from people we or dark horses breakthrough in the East. I just. Don't Other than Yolo folo, I completely agree. If, if, if, if somebody says like Jordan's veck is going to make it like it's like. We'll see about that. We'll see about that. What if, like if Hatfield gets into like the top five or something, would we say that's Dark Horse?

Because we've been following him for like a year now. Y'all might say it's dark horse. Are we, are we going to get into it? Are we going to get into? Yeah. Are we going? To go to. Syndicate. Then let's do it. Yeah, we might as well. We're talking about it, yeah. Closing remarks on week two. West Coast Classic was great. It was great going to Carson. It just sucks how few people were there. It freaking hurt my soul to watch that. But it's great. I mean, it was a great venue.

He also said Devin Kim was going to get third place and that honestly is probably the worst take of all time. Listen, my 300 reps people bring that out a lot. It was it was bad. It was bad. This Devon camping 3rd place will never be forgiven. You're all are better than that. Half field's going to be 6th place. 5th place. Tyler before we, before we even get into our our. Pixel even know what this means.

Just we we need to know up front, do you have the training think tank athletes ranked egregiously high? I don't think so. I don't think so. He he, you can't. He's the most biased man. I'll take your word. I'll take your word all CrossFit towards a certain. People listen. Listen, I'm not. I got a Mayhem guy that I'm rooting for. You know, it's not biased by me,

it's true. I, I think that I, I, I think a lot of people get this wrong about I think Travis is going to get top five in every single event. I think that he will peek for the games, but we're trying to get the truck to. That's your cover. That's your cover when he gets clapped. And when and when he doesn't do that, I'll cover somewhere. Else. Listen, Tyler Travis has always been a you know that beard's always been salt and pepper. But I saw a video of him the other day.

It's looking a lot more salt these days. I'm worried. I'm worried about him holding up over the weekend. He's gonna. Be salty at the end of the weekend. No, I think I think he could do really well last or this weekend. I mean, like, I, I, I do legitimately think like I know Jon doesn't think this is true. And Jr. God bless his soul. He tried to play ball with me a little bit, but didn't.

He couldn't give in enough. I think he could have like top three performances on almost every single event. Yeah, man, I agree that the events line up really well for him, but it's so competitive. And when when Adler and Roman are in the field, it's like, no, he could be close, you know, and he could do exceptionally well. But like, that still might be a 10th. It's just so deep. So deep. Steve. Everything that Mayor is good at, I just, I think Hopper's better. I disagree.

Do we have our our picks? Are we going to do picks? Picks. Are we doing picks? Or let's go picks picks. All right, we're doing live. Do we do we got graphics on the back end? We don't. I. Said Y'all. Everybody's picks. Yeah, spin prep season. I was at work, so sorry. John, I could have made them. Oh my God. All right. You wanna you wanna go, you wanna go Start at one. I think we should start at one and work our way down. Oh, OK, you guys start.

I, we're, we're already almost an hour into the show. Are we in agreeance? Maybe other than Tyler I, I got top three. Adler, Roman Pepper, no questions. Clear top three. We are in disagreement. All right, then here we go. Go ahead, John. Do you mean? Do you mean the order? No, just just those top three, just those top three, I think like we're. Still in disagreement? But not but not by that much. Not by that much. OK. Did you learn nothing from Taylor versus the World?

All right then who do you got at 1:00 then? At at one I have Roman. No. No, no, I'm, I'm, I'm pulling. I'm pulling him up so I don't mess up the order at one. I got Roman OK. OK, I got Adler. I got Adler. And, and I'm fine with that, yeah. I'm not going to fight over that. We feel the same about that. Yeah, OK. I had two. I have Adler. OK, Tyler. Tyler, do you have Mayor in first? No, I have Dal and pepper in first. Oh. Hey, that's not a bad show. Man, I don't, I don't mind it.

I don't mind it. These four guys, I literally don't mind, like you said, three, and I'm just going to bring it out to four. I I do have Hopper and 4th. I just feel like it's a clear cut three. I like them, I like them, and I'm glad to hear you like them too. So who's who's y'all? Your Adler is your one. Who's your one? Dalan Pepper? Who's your two? Me. Yeah. Jason Hopper. And who's your two? Roman. OK, so we have the same 2, just different order. I'm fine with it.

I'm good with it. Three, I have Jason. Hopper OK, so we're all we're all. Playing ball together, right? Now three, you have Dallin, right Travis and then Korea. I'm, I'm guessing you have Jeff. Roman. Roman and you have Jeff 4th. Oh no, Travis all. Right. We're not going to talk to Tyler the rest of the show. So 4th, I have Dallin and you have Hopper at 4th. I'm good to if you want to talk through these four, we can.

I'm willing to accept that. I think these this is a tier by itself and those names can be swapped in any which way. We'll see what happens. I agree, John. I want to know what's made you change up your tune on Jason because I think we all know you. You were the biggest Jason Flopper hater this past year. Yeah, you are bipolar on the game. For no, no, no. No, no, it depends on the competition for the games. I was because you got 31st freaking place and he's supposed

to be about top. He's supposed to be around top ten games every time level. And you got 31st place. So is it OK? Go ahead. How I feel about what Hopper can do. Thank you ECS sounds. OK, good. Listen, download's going to be fine. Calm down. Let me get through this. Let me get through this and then we can talk about y'all's infatuation with Down. Hopper is the only guy who's trying to talk trash to me on a regular basis, so I have to put

him in his place at some point. But as far as his ability? Goes. Semi finals are made for Hopper. He's always been amazing at semi finals. 2nd place last year. And 1st place his rookie year and then I think he was second the year before that or year after that second or third. But like semi finals are they're always built for Hopper and anything that you think so like you have Hopper. 4th. Do you think he's going to beat down in the run? I do. Yeah, Yeah, I do, right.

Do you think honestly? Go ahead, go ahead. You're. You're just going to say no, I, I, I think it's going to be so close that it's splitting hairs and it's, it's honestly going to come down to execution. Like, yeah, like you're saying you're not going to fight me on those picks. I'm not going to fight, OK? You haven't, Hopper. We both think so. I can tell you why. But like, I'm good with just leaving it up for leaving it up with.

Those let let me ask you this and those who've seen Jason Hopper snatch on Instagram will know is it possible that we see Jason Hopper, the only athlete in the entire world, get a no Rep on the snatch ladder for jumping outside of the box? No, I know what you're saying, but I he can hold like I think he can be. He's fine. That's not like that's nothing compared to. 1st, it's only 265. Yeah, like he's going to be fine. I actually think there's a chance that's his worst event.

Yeah, I would. He's what I always remark on anytime I'd see Jason do, like the power lifts, like explosive lifts is how slow he is. Like he moves so slow through lifts. Yeah, he's a bit of an oaf. He's a bit of a but, but I'm on the train this year. I think he's going to do. Really well, the Makowski moves fast. Yeah. They're big guys, I guess. And that's the thing, like they're, you're just tall and so it looks so slow. Whereas like Hatfield does the same thing and it's like.

Listen, I almost, I almost put him second and then I was like, dude, Jeff is so good. Jeff is so good but, and so I ended up putting I think Jeff's. I think Jeff's not going to have a great event as far as winning, winning the competition goes in event four. And I just think since the East is so deep I could see him taking like 7th place in event 4 and that's the reason he doesn't make win. OK. Who've you got? Who've you got in fifth? You guys want to move on?

Yeah, yeah, let's. Get to the cut line there. This field is so deep. Well, here we're going. To. I think we're going to be really different here. Like there's a lot of action at the cut line. All right, let's. I didn't do it. I feel very confident about #5 very. Me too. OK, go ahead. Go Tyler Jeff Adler. Well, yeah, you should feel confident. OK. That's a safe, safe part. I think, yeah, he's hot. OK, That's a real safe five. OK, go ahead, Trap. I have Samuel Cornway.

I have Jack Farlow, and I think Jack Farlow's going to surprise a lot of people. I. See. Jack Farlow's impressed me the entire year. He was so impressive at Watapalooza. He's got the best workout partner anybody could ask for and I think, I think he's continuing to. In in Luke. Emma Lawson. Oh, Jack, sorry, I thought we were talking about Sam for a second. So I'm currently making my picks live on the show. I don't know if that's a surprise to anybody. We're doing it live. Fuck it.

I can't put Sam that high and I'm worried about Jack's movement speed to a degree on almost everything to put them that high. I think. I think Jack will qualify. I'm not so certain on Cornway. I I think Cornway will be comfortable. I have almost like he's great he but he just is missing something and I don't know what it is. Well, he yeah, he got, he got messed up at the games last year and kind of bowed out there when he was dragging his ass in the run.

But I I feel like he's he always has something going on. Yeah, I agree. But when he when he's on, he's pretty good. And I feel like he's still got something to prove. He's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder. I like him. He's he's kind of what he does fly under the radar even when he does do well. Like, I think he came fifth last

year semis. And even though I, I, I think there's a lot of big powerful dudes in the field that this program programming lines up for, and he's not necessarily one of those, I think he's still gonna have a pretty good weekend. He's experienced. He'll be solved. He'll be solved. Programming that he's gonna be bad at. Yeah, he's he's ball rounded 6. My number six, and I'm very confident about this guy. Very confident. Awesome. Hatfield. That's comical, man. That is incredible.

That's high even for my. Hey, when it happens, when it, when it happens, when it happens, what are you going? To say, let's think about this because I was thinking about this last night when I we were on the. Show thinking about what you're going to say when it happens. He barely beat Colton at Crash, and I know we're talking about a very. Different. That's a. Union competition. I almost don't even think crash crash is applicable here.

It's it could be semi dare. Hey now, Crash is fantastic but. Sprague was like 4th place. He's gone. Don't James. James, stop. Stop, Tyler, What's going on? James Sprague was literally 4th place at Crash and he's third place in semi finals. You cannot use Crash to apply to the semi finals. It's so, so different. They are probably couldn't be two, you know two events on the opposite ends of the spectrum

for programming. John, my question to you is for Austin Hatfield, how is he going to qualify when he is in the bottom half for four events? He all we have to do is take a side by side comparison. Travis is freaking out right now. Am I back in now? I'm good. No, you're good. You're good. OK my shit was all nice couple towns OK and. He's revved it up. Let's go. John, John, would you agree? Austin Hatfield, we can make a pretty close comparison with Colton. Same stature.

They're gonna their home run events are the same events, right? That's that's two and five. Penalty events are not. The same. That's two and five, and I'll tell you right off the rip, especially in the East, Austin Hatfield is not getting 5th in the run. OK, cool. He he's bottom half of the field. We know. Bottom half of the field he's. Bottom half, he's bought a event. By event. Event by event. Yeah, yeah. Event 115th or lower. OK, sure. If teeth are better, 15th.

Is better is what I'm saying. No, no shot. 100% he's been running, man, I'm telling you. I know this commentator all right. He's. He's 15th or better. OK, and then event 2 here. Just enlighten me. This is how I got here. You can disagree, but this is how I got this is how I got here. Like like give me give me time to say this. Go ahead. Event 115th or better event two win. Event three, I think he just got a shot to beat Colton. So by 4 you go, which is wait and watch.

Just wait and watch. All right, Event three was event 3, Legless rope climb workout 20th or better. He's bottom half of the he's bottom half of the field man against his competition. And. All the top ten. Oh God, I don't say I I don't. John was it? Bottom half of the field on it was it. Did not give Travis Mayer crap for being 4th place but I got Austin qualified. And set a. Stop. With that, because you're what? Why are you pick?

Why are you picking this guy? Is it his 14th at Watapalooza that impressed you where he was like, what? What are you basing this off of? You can't be basing off of Crash 'cause we know that's not, you know, a direct comparison or a comparison at all. So where are you picking them? I know what this man is about to do and you're. Gonna so OK, so so event for John, a handstand walk row. Event very fast on his hands he. Rose that's. Crazy 5. Seconds faster.

It rose about 5 seconds faster than Colton, and he's faster on his hands than Colton. That's crazy 'cause I could have swore that when I watched Event six last year, semi finals with handstand walking and pirouettes. The camera was watching Saxon Panchak work on his overhead squats. Behind that was the row, and then way in the back you could see this little guy, he was trying to do a pirouette and he was stuck back there. He was Austin Hatfield. In In John's defense, pirouettes

don't matter. They don't matter. Here and San Juan is. Very different from pirouetting. It is. It is, but it's not that different. You can't even do if you if you can't even do a pirouette, you are not competing with some of these guys in the East in a race. That's just not true. You can straight Sprint on your hand. It's falling. Pirouette requires control. Hey you need you need to that event. I bet he doesn't look as graceful either. Hey, that guy, one inverted

medley. He's capable of doing a pure wet. After four, sit down legless. Ropes. Hey, listen, listen, hey, listen. I'm, I'm not finding any, anything in this guy's track record that tells me he's 6th place in this field. You're about to. I'm not OK. Don't tell you. Don't tell me where you have it. Is he qualifying? Top three event six Top five? Watch it. Watch it happen. OK, All right, let's let's let's move on. I I did, I did.

I did have them in originally. I got them first guy, first or second guy out. I don't have them in. I have them. Fixed shit. OK, I know. I don't have money, but let's move on. Let's say he's my, he's my Bill Leahy and I'm drinking the kool-aid. That's cool. I'm going to sit over here and Oh yeah, drink my Kool-aid and whenever and whenever and whenever you want Kool-aid and you're sitting over there thirsty because all your people aren't didn't make the games you

don't get. Any Kool-aid, it's going to be a French Canadian takeover. You. Don't get any of my Kool-aid. That's not I. Think he's like. Canadian. People are the best people. You can't say that like that's not fair. It's already. It's like a. Green Kool-aid to me, what color is is Hatfield's color? Oh, we're red all day. Red. He's. Red, red 40. All right, we're. Classic. We're classic. I had Wilmore at at 6th. That I have no problem with that at all. I think Wilmore is going to make

it comfortably. I have him at 8th. I have Samwell Cornway at 7th. And I got I got mayor at six. I understand. Sorry, sorry, Tyler. That's that's really high. OK, number #7 we're going to need to spend some time here. I have cornway. I have cornway. We're going to need to spend some time. I have none other than Taylor Self. Highest pick. You better hope he doesn't watch this, Tyler. You better hope you're gonna get lit up, bro. You're gonna get lit up. Listen.

Why do you have them seven? Listen, I have no concerns about Taylor's fitness level aside maybe a little bit those little chicken sticks that he's got for legs, OK. I think he might have a bit of a hard time at event too. I'm, I'm a little worried there, but I'm other than that, I'm not worried fitness level with Taylor. I'm worried mental game. I'm I'm worried about a little

bit of ring rust. He has not competed at a semi final since 2021. And then on top of that, he's going to be in the in the first heat for event one. And I think he knows that he needs to come out and clap booty cheeks in that in that event and he's going to expect to win that heat. Now what I worry is if there's a specialist in that heat or somebody comes out too hot and he gets baited into racing with them. We have seen that happen in quarter finals, the the wall

ball and Berby box jump event. I think he could fuck him up and it can mess up his mental game for the weekend. Those are my biggest concerns. I don't think he got baited into a pace he could hold on that. I think he just leg endurance wasn't there for him. As long as I think we're fine. We already know that Adler's a gamer, that he wants to get in your head. And if I were these guys, I would note how emotional Taylor gets.

You're not allowed. I would do it doesn't matter what what the camera, what Mama don't see. Don't hurt her. What I would do is exactly what Travis just said. I would find ways to get in Taylor's head and I would make him wreck himself because he's almost like a shit. What movie is that? I don't. I don't even, I don't know if Adler's concerned with Taylor. No offense to Taylor. I love him. I think he's going to do well.

I don't think the reigning games champion is worried about Taylor. So I think Taylor could win that event. Who's second is it? I think Jeff wins that event going away, I think. It's going to be tough to beat Jeff, I think. Anybody can touch him. I think Taylor can do well for sure, but he's in the first heat, right. So that's that's working against. I think Taylor, I think Taylor can and I almost think he needs

to be top five in that event. Dude, Taylor and and Adler being next to each other, flip it on him. Taylor, get in, get in. They're. Not going to be next. To each other there there might be a legitimate. Close. No, they're, no, they're in different heats, Tyler. Oh shit. Damn, is there a chance? Is there a chance Taylor gets kicked out before the weekend's over for heckling? Is there a Taylor? Is that a heat? Is that a heat one prompt?

He'll be the first athlete ever to get kicked out for trash. Wouldn't be anybody else. So yeah, I'm confident in Taylor. I think he gets it done. Guy's got heart a lot of pressure on him, man. I think he's going to handle it well in the end though. I. Don't know if there is a lot of pressure on him. I know everybody's saying he's going to make it, but it's always like the last two spots except you, Travis. Yeah, but he's, he's got, he's

got eyes on him, bro. And that comes with pressure. I think for sure a. Gamer, though Taylor's a gamer. I think he does the best. He does his best when there's pressure on him. He's a game. No, I think he's. I think he's going to. He's 100% an athlete and he feels he, no matter what he tells himself about like I like like the excuses of his knee or how he feels about the competition as a whole when when it's 321 go, all that shit will go out the window and he wants to win. Yeah, yeah.

No, I think he's going to. I think he's going to handle it well. If you want to have Taylor at 7th I think it's a bit of a Homer Sentinel pick just like Travis at 4th. But you could say half fields is 6th is my Homer pick. That's fine. I'm good with us all having one Homer pick, although y'all argued about mine like the most but it's OK. I I I'm fine with that. I'm fine with. That so far. I think yours is the most outlandish. Mine. Yeah. Travis Mayer 4th is probably the

most outlandish. But are we? We all get one Mulligan on the the Homer pixel. We won't. We won't harass him. We're good. Oh, that would be. Fun. That would be fun. Like halfway in we build in a feature in heat. One is if in your top 12 you get 1 Mulligan pick so you can swap somebody out. That'd be cool I. Think you should be able to swap somebody out if they get hurt in

the first three events. But because that's like the top 12, my only qualm with that, although I it it should, I, I think it should be like this Tyler. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's just very lucky. Yeah. And that's, that's the thing, like we're getting hurt. Who is sick? Who wants to try in the last event like it's so just luck of the draw with that stuff, right,

But I I like that randomness. You know, I, I. Do too, because every time you're like damn it, like Hattie Kenyo got me. You know it's a. Bit of a lottery and then like you know, for the like skill like shot caller, you got that with shot caller. Right, eight. I have Taylor Self. We're at 80. You gave me shit man. You literally made me feel like shit for having about 7. I don't think so. The gall, man. The gall I have. I have Bachelorette star Luke Parker. Wow.

I think that's high for him, but I don't mind it. I don't mind it. At all, dude, he's a good for him. He's a big, powerful guy. He lines up well for him. Dude, he did really well last year and yeah, I think he's going to be solid. He's having a baby early death, strength. Well, yeah, I Oh yeah, you too. So you're it's your up, John. I'm eight. I have Will Morad. So item is 6. Have you said him yet? You haven't said. Him yet, Travis. I am typically I'm typically I'm Aegis.

I'm typically a big Will Morad fan and I'm not gonna lie, part of me, I just, I almost forgot about him, but then I, I, I clicked on his profile, I saw he's 35 and I left him out. I do not have him going. I, I really, I like him and I do like a lot of these events for him, despite it being a big powerful, He's a powerful catering to those guys. I know, but he's short and he's old man. I think like, you know, I, I worry about the I worry about the durability man. I think.

I think maybe. Jack Russell and a 14 year old Great Dane are two very different things, and he's a Jack Russell. I think, I think maybe we see like a wheel come flying off the rig on Turn 3 and it's a disaster for him. That's why I. Think I think he dude, he's he's a little gold Saber. He's like he always finds a way to get it done.

He's an old crafty vet he we do remember him coming back from like 90 points down a couple years ago and and knocking his sprag 80. 1. Yeah, that might be my worst pick. Worst pick? Yeah, I'll, I'll own it #9. From 9:00 I have Saxon panchak. I have Alexander Carone, Austin. Hatfield. OK. I can't, I can't argue with any of these. Alexander No, I can't. I'm not. I can't either.

And I'm fine with it. Alexander Carone Kind of like Sam. Well, I just feel like there's always something going on with him. He's never healthy and he's not as good as Samuel. These French Canadian guys are are babies. They're soft. Corona, you have this. Canadian, I do have a French Canadian. I do have this bias. I don't even like French people, even though I have a French last name. But listen, I'm actually surprised that you guys aren't

giving me flak for that pick. He he's a bit of a, you know, bit of a Band-Aid. Ever since he blew his neo to the games there in the rain, squatting. We know he tore his PEC last year. That whole debacle. He had a flare up at Watapalooza. If he makes it through the weekend, if he can just keep it one piece, I think he's going to go through me. He's a big, powerful, strong guy, but he's got wicked cardio and he struggles with that dense gymnastics that we don't have at the semi finals.

So I think the events line up really well for him. If he keeps it one piece, Snatch ladder's going to be, but the rest of the events are good. Yeah, same as someone in the chat, same as same as Vigno, man. Like I picture them kind of pretty similar and you know they struggle with the same thing. Same build but I picked Corona. As far as the top 12 game goes though, he he would be your your fastest to lose points on. Because if. They fall outside the. If they fall outside the 15 you

don't get any points. He's not thinking about the top 12. Though I know, I know. This is what my heart believes #10 I have Travis Mayer. Wow, neither you got anything to say about that? Yeah. That's a little like you said, I think he's old. I hate old people. For this, just not for. Will the the events I think are are decent for him. I don't think the events are as good as you guys think they are for him, but I think he's just going to be a little bit like Brandon Luckett.

Like he's not ever going to have any home runs, but he's going to do well enough that he's always in. He's always safe and then as long as he executes, he's just going to make through without anybody thinking about him. I will say I will argue for it. This is my problem. Travis is I can simultaneously argue for and against myself. Travis is really on when he's on and he's he's when he's not. You're right. He's kind of like Brandon Luckett. He just kind of gets the gets

the work done and he's there. So I don't I don't hate it. Ten spot, 10 spot. I got Jackie Farlow. I agree with John, just just maybe not to OK, just not to the same extent. Like he really has some impressive improvements like with regards to his conditioning. Looks good. Yeah, he looked really good at Watapalooza and like you mentioned training with Emma, I think. And he's like, you know, whatever 2021 years old, I take that I take, I put a lot of stock into that.

When we talk about, you know, how much improvement they're making year to year, I I would guarantee Jack Farlow's made more improvement in the past year than Wilmore had. Yeah, yeah, sure. Do you have a kid? Are you a dad? I think they're talking about mayor. Like you're like fucking 15 years old. He's he's older than me. He's your age. Yeah. He's like 31. With a head of hair like this too. You got Gray hair? I'll, I'll, I'll cut some off and mail it to you A. 21 year

old can't grow that mustache. OK, come on now. That's well. Not as thick as Bryson's, but yeah. Bryson's. That thing's taken three years to grow out. Not really. He shaved it not too long ago. I got I got Sax in 11th. I'm fine with it. I think I'm going to get a lot of heat here. I have Benoit Boulanger, another French Canadian, sneaking in. You already had your home. You already had your. Your Homer pick? Yeah. You got nothing but homers. You're. Doing, yeah. Listen, listen.

The reason I'm picking this guy? Is because he's Canadian. Not because he's French Canadian. Listen, I have a few reasons, OK? If. He does not win event one. Then you're this is trash. I I think we're going to see a 12 in event one. It's Jeff Adler and his training partner Benoit. Listen, he's a young guy. He's 25 coming into his prime. He barely missed out last year while he he was in 17th. Checks the ages. The Bronte got it. Check the always check the age.

Always check the ages. Hey, different listen. Let me get to my point. Different listen. Bigger point here is the programming's a lot different than last year. He got clapped on that one Rep, Max Snatch. Yes, I know there's the Snatch ladder, but that's better than the one Rep for him. He's a big aerobic guy. He's training under the watchful eye of Carolyn Lambre and everybody's favorite Chris, Chris Henshaw. The man has an engine. He's a big guy. I think he's going to get it

done this weekend. One watchful eye other one's really has both of them are on Adler She's she's got like the hiller watchful eye on him kind of one wanders off every now and again that's. An underrated, underrated comet. You know, what did he, what did he snatch last year? 255 Doomed does. He does. He does he. Been training hard, man, he's been training hard. He's. Going to Everybody's been training hard bro.

Hey, listen, there's levels. I, hey, I'll, I'll, I'll be on all weekend with you, John. We'll be able to discuss it. We'll see. I got. I can't. Wait, I'm confident. I'm confident. You're gonna get grilled about. This Yeah, John, who have you got in 11? In 11th place I have Luke Parker. Solid pick. In 12th place I have Luke Parker. Who's your 11th? 11th is Saxon panchi. OK. And your 11th was Benoit? Correct. And then I have venia you. You did 11th already, didn't

you? Yeah, Luke, Luke Parker. And then the last. The guy that you have is the first guy out. Who do you got? I have Alex Vigno. He's he's, he's heavy on there. There's a heavy French Canadian contingency bias about to dominate Knoxville all. Right. Go ahead, Tyler. Who's your last one out, Luke? Luke. Parker, my last guy out it's, it's going to be heartbreaking. I have Taylor Self. Wow you bumped him? Holy wow this is not going to be

good for your relationship. Whatever, whatever I said earlier is going to get missed. Yeah, Sun Taylor, a link man got him in there, right? Now, I, I mean, I'm sure he's upset about it, but or you know what? He he might not even care. He might be turning this. Off now. If I were him, I wouldn't be listening to anything right now. I have, I have. Taylor's self is 12th. I just think I agree with you. I think he's going to murder the 1st event. He needs to murder this first event.

I you're wrong. I want him to make it. I want him to make it. It's just the East has so many good people. We have we have 16 returning Games athletes not from past 16 Games athletes, plus Taylor and a couple other guys. And I'm scared for him an event too, like event two, event two. What would you say is the lowest place he could take 20th? I mean dude, we've seen people almost take a 30th especially. And he's got. Yeah, but they have to have home runs.

And yeah, but like, Taylor's a consistent guy. He's not a home run guy. I would say he can get a bunch of top 10 scores. Yeah, I think he's going to obliterate. I think, I think three and four, he's going to obliterate 6. He's going to do really well. See, here's the thing. I had him in where I thought three would be more of a gymnastic, more the rope climbs would count for more instead of it's a, it's a, it's a box

jumping bike workout. And there's a lot of big, strong, powerful guys, and I think he's going to lose to all of them. That's a. That's a valid point. That's a where, where where that event might have been 5th place for him if the if the gymnastics. If it was a gymnastics test, now it's a 12th, right? So like say he gets, say he gets, he doesn't do as good. Let's say he does what we think he will and let's say he gets fourth in the first event, 4th.

And then if he gets 20th and then 12th and then he's not in a qualifying position going into the last day, you think he's going to make that home run on the snatch workout? I don't. I think he's going to be fine. I think he'll clear it and he'll be fine, but he's not. He's not going to win that workout, you know what I'm

saying? Yeah, I don't think he'll need to. But like, say he gets 10th in that and then he gets event four, say he gets like 8th and then he's in a, he's in a, he's in a position where he's going to be on 11th spot, 10th, 11th place. And then you have to, it comes down to that last event. And he's shown to be nervous about leg endurance, like squatting, lunging endurance. And I know he's a better lunger than he is squatter, but. Dude, I don't well, and I just

did that work out yesterday. I I don't even know how much, especially at their level with how fast they're going. Like I don't think it's a ton of legs. It's a lot of grip, man. It's just all grip and and you got to consider it's not the biggest if they're. Going to push the bike, it's going to be more legs than you, than you. Expect the only. You only longer to do that stuff, there is no rest.

By the time their bike to lunge time is much much shorter than you or or me. You know, I didn't feel my legs at all either, but that. Tear out of. Your mind is so much. You're so wrong about this.

I think his like, yeah, him being one of the best in the field in the muscle UPS, he's going to be able to push the bike a lot harder, maybe even crank her with the arms a little more if he needs to. He's going to smash the muscle up. So he's not going to have any errors like we've seen Colton make and see if he gets it done. And again, I want him to make it. I y'all don't, don't take me in the wrong place. I want him to make it. I'm going. To be we will. We will.

This is your over. To it if he does right right I just I he's in a place where he has to be top ten and event six it that's a scary place and I think mentally you need to be prepared to not not send it but to execute to the best of your ability and like like you guys have said he's kind of wavered mentally this last week he does like he doesn't act like he wants it and you. Know I do where I do where he's doing kill Taylor tomorrow but. That all right.

It's going to be, it's going to be worried. About that one. It's going to be fucking nuts man. This weekend is by far and away the most competitive semi for the men and the women. Knuck and Fudd for sure. Luke Parker. Let's move on to the women. You as long as you don't have Raptus in the one spot, Tyler. #1 Alexis Raptis No, I'm just kidding. Unless something astronomically crazy happens, which we like, I'm just not going to predict that. Like I think we all have the the

same top three. Tia, Alexis, Emma. We do not have the same top three. Oh, OK. Again once once again y'all like the fourth person you just like don't think about and I think the 4th person is in the same tier and much much better. If if do you Travis? Are you on Tyler side or my side on this? I'm not on your side. I, I see you placing Danielle Brandon in that top four. I'm not. I'm not with it. I think I actually, Jon, I'm going to disagree with you right

from the rip. I think Tia, yeah, Tia's in one, but Emma's a lot closer to her than even she is to wrap this. And Brandon? And I'm putting a lot of stock in the young blood, making a ton. Of progress and still. Developing young blood. Remind me again, I don't. I forgot where. Emma Lawson's. From I have no idea man, I have no idea Is is America the size of Europe? Is America bigger than Europe? Where Where is Emma Lawson? From, I don't know, maps, man, Listen, I'm putting a lot of

stock. She's she's just graduated high school, OK? She's, she's not doing homework no more. She's crushing it. There's a ton of progress to be made. She's still developing. She's looking good man. What word was that? Which one? I said like 30. What has she made a ton of? Money. Money progress. Progress. Yeah, it's progress. In. America. Progress. It is. All right, here we go. I'm betting a bit. I'm I'm willing to bet and Lawson says progress the same way you do. And listen.

It's all right. It's all right, Travis. You don't have to be sorry about about about it. I'm not going to be sorry about it and listen as as a a wise senior analyst in the space, Brian Friend says it's so. Important to. Have it's so. Important. Listen. Yeah, that's enough of that. It's it's so important to have every aspect of your life in order to be competing at the

highest level. And you're going to look at me in the eyes and tell me that Danielle Brandon, the Hurricane herself, is going to be competing with Emma Lawson, who's sleeping 10 hours a night. This girl's life is in turmoil. She's all over the map, man. They're on. They're on different levels. They're on different levels. You got. You got to have a little trauma every now and again just to keep. They're on. They're on different levels, man. How easy. Here, here. How about this, Travis?

OK, I this is how I feel about. Would you agree that she, Danielle Brandon's in the second tier with those two girls? OK, Emma Lawson you can say is above. Is it the first one by a lot and that in that tier, If you want to say that, that's fine. But you would agree they're in that little tier together and then there's a jump, right? There's a gap down. I think Kaylee Adams is going to look good. I think she's going to surprise a lot of people. All right, well, she's Snatch

Ladder, so she's out. Not going. She ain't going to the. Game no, no, no, no. She's she's going though she's out of that tier. If if you say like what I think is that those four girls are relatively going to be in the top five on almost all of these events. All of them. Danielle Brandon has a guaranteed win. Emma Lawson does not. So Emma lost.

So say Dame Lawson, Emma Lawson could beat her in four out of the six events and Danielle Brandon could still beat her because Danielle Brandon will be 3rd or 4th the whole time. Emma Lawson will be second the whole time. And then that 100 points that she gets, and Emma Lawson's going to have 88 points in one of those events, and then Danielle Brandon's going to be ahead of her.

I don't, I don't think that. I don't think it's going to be like we see in Oceana where it's the same top four people getting top 4IN all the events. I think there's going to be some more people meddling. Go ahead and tell. Tell this man why he is wrong. Me no. No, no. Oh oh wait John calling out someone for his bias lol. If DB wasn't coached by his coach, he would be picking Emma. John's a free. Agent. He's not. Yeah, he's free agent. That's a good way to say it.

I'm not even. I'm not even. With her coach anymore, and I'm telling you she's going to get second that's. John's fielding offers right now. I'm biased, I am. I am not fielding offers. He's Ajy barbell athlete. I'm. Being myself, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm JY Barbell Club. I'm doing anyway. The Emma Lawson's win wins against two. Inches Todd's brain Brain just broke. Yeah, yeah, good. Good luck. OK. I want to put up a lot of money that Theo wins both of those if she wants to.

I swear to God to you if you check out on event. 6. I'm so mad that I'm going to say Emma Lawson's going to win the games because you and Laura are freaking punks. I just think Emma Lawson, Alexis Raptus, and Danielle Brandon are going to be all together the whole entire time, 2nd through 4th. And I think Danielle Brandon has a guaranteed win coming her way and none of the rest of the girls do. And I think that point jump is going to jump her in the second place and then it's going to be

within 10 points, 3rd and 4th. Yeah, I think it'll be a little more spread out. I think, I think Lawson will be closer to Tia than people think. I think Raptus will be third, Daniel's 4th. It's all close. It's all close. OK. And I I have I have, I have Danielle 2nd and then Emma Lawson 3rd and Alexis Rap just 4th. Go ahead, Tyler, your top four. Dude 4 is a hard one. She. Can't win the dance. She this this comment happened. I I've taken up for you a few times. This comment is retarded.

Tia cannot beat Danielle Brandon in event four. OK, Danielle Brandon is going to stop everybody. It's not going to be close. I don't want to pick Danielle for four, but like, it is a different class after her. Like there are great athletes below her, but it's it's just not the same we're talking about. She's a top games athlete. Yeah. So I'm going to go Danielle Brandon at 4. Do you want me to do 5 or are we? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, let's keep it. Rolling. You all do five first.

I got, I got Haley, I got Haley Adams in fifth. I think she's going to come back refreshed after a year. I think maybe some people are discounting her as if she hasn't really been training hard the last while. I think she has. I think she's going to be feeling mentally really well and that translates to a strong physical game. She's always been good and I think she's pretty clearly in the fifth spot in my opinion. OK, I'm going to go with. I couldn't agree more with

Travis everything he just said. I am the same. I have Haley Adams in 5th. Beautiful. I'm going to go with Amanda Barnhart. I'm going to go on the side that her shoulder is fine and and training has been going great because the thinking that case she can beat Haley. Yeah, I don't know. She's. Too much of A. That's too much of A risk. I think that's too much of A risk. I do have Barnhart next in 6th.

I think it's too much of A risk, Barnhart, like in. 10th yeah, it is definitely a bit of a risk picking her, but I and I think it's even a bigger risk to put her ahead of Haley for sure. But you know, she's like a big, powerful chick and we know the programming for this weekend, so I think she'll do good. Jokes on you, Heavy Savvy. I didn't know. I don't even have them. There's. Coming up live. Stay fluid. He's staying fluid. For the girls, I think it's it's

different. I actually really, really like the programming for the women because the legless rope climb workout, the legless matters. The legless matters for the women. And Haley Adams is a very, very good legless rope climber. Haley Adams has a chance to win event one. Like there's so many events where she can make a lot of gap on Amanda Barnhart and and then the the freaking event 6, you know, you go broken on the ring muscle UPS, you automatically have an advantage as a woman.

The bike just not near as important. It's ring muscle UPS and lunges. So like, Barnhart has one workout where she can distance herself from Haley Adams, and Haley Adams has like three workouts where she can distance herself from Barnhart. And I just, I, I, and I think Barnhart's such a wild card with her shoulder, it's impossible to tell you how good she's going to do until we see it. And we haven't seen it in a live competition at all. So I, I have Barnhart way down there.

I still have her making it, but I have her in 10th place. Fair enough. Who is y'all 6? Yeah, I don't think that's a bad take. I agree. Bit of a bit of a risk. So that was Adamson, 5 Barnhart and six for me. John, did you do your six or was that? I have six. I have Carolyn Prebo. I love that pick man. I love that pick. Good Canadian girl. Good Canadian. Oh yeah. See. Damn it, you can't. Just play into it like that. You can't just UN unguardedly tell us you're a Canadian pro.

He is. No, I'm honestly not. I'm honestly not. I just have. It's just shaking out that way. Listen, he's pro Canadian and I'm pro West Virginia. It's OK. I understand. I got, I got. Man. I love that pic though. She's gritty. She's older too. She's she's. Old She is one of those ones that's just going to have an even keel weekend the whole entire time. Yeah, and she's a man. She's a hockey player. She knows how to muck and grind. I think she's going to get gritty.

I think that I see her, I got her a bit lower, but I see her coming into that last event against like a little pipsqueak like Anika Greer and marching down the field and securing her games ticket. I really like might not. Make it past event one. No, I agree, and I've seen her in the comments of the show before, so I wanted to give her a, you know, a vote of confidence 'cause I am a fan, I like her. Just let the record show I had her the highest just. I'm surprised.

I had. Event event 2 is what I'm worried for. It's a lot of double unders. I hate 6 by the way. OK, so we're not all far away from. Me, No, no, no, no, no. I just, it's just so hard. It's like what's going to happen? Some of this programming's bad for her. Some of it's good for her. The field's changed a little bit since she's been gone. So I, I'm, I'm being conservative. I probably shouldn't be, but I'm being conservative. Seven. I don't think 6 is conservative.

We had her 5th. I mean, some people would put her in fucking top three. Well, they're on crack. I got Brooke Wells, Brooke Wells, Brooke Wells in 7th. She's she's resilient. She's. She's crazy resilient. Crazy resilient. That elbow man, that elbow man, it's amazing. We'll see how resilient it is in the snatch ladder. Dude it. Became nervous. About her, I'm not trying to put it in the ether, but we'll. Put it in the. Ether no, no. Knock on wood. She'll be fine.

She'll be. She'll be all right. She's a, she's a staple. I got I got prevo and eight. Who's your 7th Tyler? Hi, Brooke. We had all we all three. I Brooke. I8 I have I have FISA coffee. That's high. I think you just hate fees of Goffi. Man, no I don't hate Fee at all. I think she's great athlete but like. She's going to be really consistent the whole way. The legless rope climb workout, she's going to murder dude. It's that workout. The workout says less about the bike.

For the women, that workout is a legless rope climb workout for the women. For the men, it's a biking box jump workout. Wildly different. For the women, the semifinals I think is very appropriate program appropriately programmed. For the men, there is a power bias.

Hard but for the. Women, it is not like that like the ring muscle UPS matter, the legless rope climbs matter and Fee is great at those things and she's a good barbell cycler like I think she is. I think she'll clear the ladder fine, even though it's like right up where Max is, I think she'll be I think she'll be able to clear it and I just think it's going to be a really good consistent weekend from fee I.

Want to talk about this? I found out where Hiller and I's Venn diagrams overlap this weekend. We both like just totally derailing shit. Like if you notice if you watch the show, he just says shit that's not that's not pertinent. What's going on? I mean, that's pretty. Perfect. I do not hate fee at all. I I really, I really enjoy. Fee and she's the nicest woman ever.

Bro just smile. Jon making the the moral picks picking thieve sweet girl, absolutely hating on Daniel or Danny Spiegel for for the Haram Instagram posts. Getting that's. Getting Daniel ran into. Me second. Listen, I got, I got fee as well. And Jon, I think you make a good

point. Listen, I'm not picking her 'cause she's a sweet girl, though I, I think, I do think you make a good point that, you know, with the power bias, with the, with the men's programming, it's not the same for the women, although I did kind of reference it a bit. My Barnhart pick, the gymnastics are so much more important, whereas for the guys it's irrelevant. So yeah, my life. She's got the, she's got the fitness, she'll be fine. So eight was, was that eight or nine? That was 8.

That was eight. I did prevo 8 #9. #9. I got Schweck. It's an. I know that's not how it's pronounced, but. No, I think that's how you do it. Oh really? I thought it had AI. Remember it had a something. Maybe it's like Chef, it's something. Like that's what it is, I think. Like that? Yeah, check. I refuse to pick her because nobody could say her name. Check. Yeah, this could be a nightmare on the commentary for a couple of amateurs. Yeah, I got her. I don't know, She's a bigger

chick. She looks good like the scores and quarterfinals. So she loves getting. She's getting slim and picking well. I don't mean like aesthetically pleasing. I mean like her build. I like her build. OK, now you're trapping words in my you're. Just trapping him I'm. Just. Asking for it? No. Matter which way you turn, he's going to make you look bad. Listen, man. You know what I mean? OK, Barclay Dale. It's like chefs. I got chefs in the chef. The chef is in. OK, She's. Chefs.

Chef to chefs. Jordan. Chefs, I think I can help with this pant pants situation. In this case I. Can't, I'm just going. To make the pants. Situation worse. I have the most forgettable person in the world. I'm sorry. Wow. It's that way that's rude. No, it just seems like it is. It seems like it is and I think she would get it. Paige. Samanza. Paige Samanza, I'm Samanza did not talk.

About her ever and all she does is just keep on keeping on going to the Games. Perennial Games athlete, one of the most consistent people there is. And yeah, I just think you're not going to have. A goal if you if you're going to say this phrase, you have to spell fire in that way. Fern Fire. I have. I'm Fern. Ashley Wozni. That's a Homer pick, right? There, that's a Homer pick and that's a lumber, that's a lumbering individual in event. One man, that's as John.

Said on the on spin cast. That's a lumbering thing, brother. I think I see her trotting in about 30, about 35th place. In event one man he did say that. About. It was like Danny Spiegel, I think he called this a That's a lumbering thing. Oh, I think it was our handstand walk. Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. She was next to like some fast little gymnast girl. I'm like, man, that's a lumbering thing and I didn't need it.

It sounds so much worse when I say it without thinking or with thinking about it. Oh, how do you feel? About Kyra's little legs pumping as hard as they could. They trotted it up. I can't. See, I couldn't be happier for Kyra. The the thing with the the Ashley pick Tyler is like we I just kind of talked about when John was mentioning it's not the big powerful programming for the females that it is for the guys. She's going to struggle on the gymnastics and the running.

I. Think she's going to be well she's going to be so on the running yes I think she'll she'll go a little slower there but I. She'll be a curse setter without the home runs. I still think she's the upper half of the field. I think you guys are wrong about the gymnastics and the fitness portion of this. She's still really good at gymnastics and she's so freaking fit dude. I I think people won't see her coming, but to those who have been watching her that it's been a long time coming.

So the was plus we need somebody charismatic like I think she's. I think she's like Allison Scuds and just destined to be a semi finals athlete for the rest of her life. No, she got that vibe. Someone, someone did. Someone did ask this question. Is there an athlete in this field that could win two events and not qualify? There is 100% it's Austin Hatfield. Oh, for the men, yeah. Yeah, OK. If you wanted to pick a person that is like that, I would

agree. I would agree it's Austin Hatfield. I think Austin Hatfield is going to do better at the events that Colton did that at, obviously, or I wouldn't have him that hit that high. But absolutely it's Austin Hatfield because the other people who can win events, Roman, Jeff, they're going to be Schumann's Hopper, Dallin, they're they're all going to be shoe wins. Tia. There's not one for the women because Tia is there, but go ahead. In the ten spot, I'll go first.

I have Yolo folo. Yolo. Folo, another Canadian, is. It is it me on these homers and then you do some shit like this. With the amount of Canadians we're seeing. Know about Erica? Fulo is Emma Lawson's training partner, and that's all I need to know. She dominated quarterfinals and then. The second biggest woman in the world is her. Training partner at the gym. I've worked out with Jr., does that make me as fit as him? No, but you didn't dominate quarterfinals either like she

was like? 3rd or 4th in the. Region in quarterfinals. Yeah, she had a crazy good performance and she did last year too, even though she went on a team. I think she did the individual quarterfinals and was in the top 20. She's solid. Another young chick man, that makes a lot of a lot of improvements year to year. Yeah. And once, yeah, once you get kind of past these top five for the for the women like. Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of open field.

Think she'll do good? Yeah. And like with the Folow pic, it's almost like, well, who's like, if you don't have her, who do you have beating her? And the names that you would have beating her, they're not like there's no names out there where you're like, yeah, that girl's going to get in, you know what I mean? Everything's going to be like up in the air. There's going to be workouts that they're going to be bad at. There's going to be workouts they're going to be good at, you

know what I'm saying? There's no like, this person's going to be great the whole time. Yeah, after I have Barnhart 10th and then I have Yolo Folo 11th, and after Barnhart I think there's just a hodgepodge of women. Can you imagine how fun it's going to be to hear Lauren Khalil call Yolo Folo as she crosses the finish line every time? An exciting passion. Yon will never. Say it he'll never. Say it. I don't, I don't think, I don't think Lauren Khalil will ever say Yolo folo. Yeah.

We'll see. I've got Savage and 11:00. Savage. Elena Savage. Savage, Savage. He's got a Savage for number 11, let me tell you. Sorry, don't don't have your name here. She's a savage man. That's it. That's all I got to say about. That we're at 10, we're at 10, we're at 11:30. If he had a lot of time. I I that was 10 for me, 11. I have Shelby Neal so I got Fee and then Shelby. Now, John, let me ask you, I, I think no one here had Annika Grier in. She's somebody that is kind of

getting a lot of attention. She's one of those people that's getting a lot of attention despite a lack of achievements. Is that, and is that surprising given that we're saying that there's there's an emphasis on gymnastics for the females and we're still leaving her out. Why are you leaving her? Yeah, the gymnastics that Annika Greer thrives at aren't here. Like if there was a strict handsome push up workout she would murder. It. She's good at ring muscle UPS, but that's one event.

And like legless rope climbs. She's a little bitty, she's. Kind of got Colt Merton's vibe on legless rope climbs. Like I just think it's going to take her. I don't think she has an advantage on legless rope climbs versus the other women. And then she's like one of the slowest bikers in the field. Like. Power output Veronica Greer is is her worst enemy. That's like she's the most poor athlete besides. Running. And and and and then she's got the running event, the running event.

She might be 36th place and. So you think there's just a like a when I compare her with Pisa gaffe, it's just a, it's just a fitness, it's just a it's a different level. It's a hundred level. Similar athlete. It's just a fitness thing for sure. And be like, OK, OK, if I could not if say like if I was 30 lbs weaker and me and you did the semi finals against each other, me and you, it would not matter. You're just fitter. There's a fitness gap. You know what I'm saying?

And and there's nowhere that I can make up on it, right, Because on a career is not going to make those points up anywhere. She's not going to randomly beat Tia or Brand, Danielle Brandon or Emma Lawson or Alexis Raptors in any of the workouts. There's not a handstand push up workout that she can be a specialty person and beat those

girls. Like that's how it's going to be versus her and a person like Fi Segafi, Fi Segafi, who's just going to beat her at everything and be consistent the whole time. Annika Greer needs home runs because she's so she's going to start in a hole. Danny Spiegel started in a hole, Olivia Kirstetter started in a hole. But they are home runs USA on day three and Annika Grier is not those girls. It's a fair assessment, very thorough as well. Well done. You know your stuff.

That's don't. Compliment me on my mind. And do you know what? We we need to beat him down, dude. He's he's too. Full well, do you know what I, I gotta be honest, John, you know, recognizing I'm fitter than him. I will give John his props. He did beat me in the only event I've tried so far, Event 6. So it was really impressive time. You haven't tried the first four, that's why it's pretty easy. To point, we're seeing the improvements already from John joined Jay JY Bar balance.

I was very good in a three. Band, if you're gonna do. CrossFit programming? Are you gonna have to rebrand? No, because I'm still making people strong every day, you know what I mean? I could make people strong and not be and not train strength myself. Fair. It's the pro program. They're on the pro level. No, this is just me trying to

work on my weaknesses. If you want to do legless rope climbs and burpees all day then you can hop on the train, but that's about all I'm doing all day is running, biking, burpees and legless rope climbs. Last one page #12 gave up. Mine is Paige Semenza last. 1-2 my. Last person out My last person out is Lydia Fish. John, I somebody, somebody brought up that I was going to pick Lydia. This is I think this is a bad

weekend for her. This is not she's she is incredibly fit and can do things that you would assume that she couldn't do. But I think even given that, this is a hard weekend for her to win. Well, obviously she's not going to win, but I just see, I see it all the other way. I think there's a lot of workouts that she can do really, really well AT and then, you know, get crushed in the snatch ladder, right? So like, I think she'll be good at event one.

I think the way it's not heavy enough and she's very aerobic. I think she'll be really good in event three with the legless rope climbs because I think she'll be able to do those better than most of the women. And I think event four she could be second place legitimately. She could be second place in event 4. Do you think event one or event 2 the front squats are as heavy for the girls as they are the

guys? I I would say no. I would so here for the elite, the top of the top, the girls that are going to make it, I would say no, but there is a huge gap between like the top 20 girls in the world and then all the the fit semi finals girls and strength a huge gap. And then but for the men, there is not that gap in strength. The heats that you go down a lot of times like the the stronger guys are in the last heat because they're not fitted

right. So like the front squats, I do think are going to make a difference for somebody like Lydia and I think that'll be one of her worst worser events because of the front squats. But as far as like for the top of the top, the top ten women, then yes, that 155 feels lighter than the 225 for the men, but all the rest of the girls it does. It doesn't. Does that make it's weird that there's a drop off like that, But that is that is how it is. I know what.

You're saying, so we're all, we're all tied up here. That's it. That's all 12. Now, we didn't disagree on much. You guys just really, really don't like Austin Hatfield and I just like all the Canadians. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. Tyler, you really, really don't like fish. Agafi and Travis doesn't like Austin Hatfield. And you're high in Canadians, you're high on TTT, and I'm right on the. Next. One I just I cannot see.

I can't see a world where with this programming that Colton doesn't make it in. Not as deep of a field as in my opinion and Hatfield makes it a knot despite there being more spots. But in this programming they got the same home run, same weaknesses. They don't have the same weaknesses. So. I think. I think Hatfield's a lesser. Experience. So like the like the home runs that Colton has, Hatfield is 95% Colton in those home runs, the weaknesses that Colton has.

Hatfield is 3 inches. Taller like so he's I think he's like 70% of the weakness that Colton. Has. He is dude Colton. 'S I don't think so dude. They looked a lot closer at crash. Or maybe I just. Don't remember. I mean, you're, you're a. Towering 5/8. I am a towering 5/8. You know this. Is a big 5/8. Yeah. Dude, I think I just I heard. I I had this weird. This is going back there you've. Been with Sevon, right? You've been, dude. Sevon's tiny. Yeah, Colted is sevon tight.

Yeah. Like you need to think about that. Think about that. It it's weird because Sevon presents still like, you know, he's as short as he is, and even though you're in person with him, he still presents larger after a while. It's weird. Dude, I didn't I didn't get that vibe at all when I met him at the Game 5 seven with shoes off the. First, the first moment, yes, you definitely feel it. But like after a while, after his personality comes out, it's like he seems just as tall as

everybody else. I had this weird moment where I saw myself on the screen with everybody and it's like we never really see each other from here down. And I was like, I'm bigger than everybody. I didn't realize that and I it was weird. I think that makes me feel because I I know. I I think Taylor just. Presents smaller than than. Yeah, I think. I think, yeah, I think Taylor just presents smaller. Yeah, it doesn't help when I'm with Jr. And I think.

J Rs real skinny and like and J Rs not as or Taylor's not as skinny as Jr. but he's not like super super thick either. Taylor's got that deceptive build 'cause he's so pale, man, it's hard to be aesthetic when you're that pale, honest to God, like he he's he's pretty muscular like you, but you look like. Shit, he's he's strong. I'm not saying. He's not strong. At all it it's. Just. If you put that stuff they put on bodybuilders, you know he

would look insane shredded. But anyway, let's move on. All right, no. No, no, no. The tanning oil, the dark stuff that they rub all over them. Betting with the boys. I always feel bad because Spin always makes his own his own bets, but we're just going to go straight up with what's in the heat. 1 apps to pull out your heat 1 apps to play along with us. First one is to me event wins 4 + 3. Two or one. What you got, John? I think Tommy wins 4 events and an outside shot at five.

I think she'll be second on one of the others. I think Tommy will be like have four first, one second and 1/5. I'm going to go with. I don't think I wasn't trying to bring up your ass in this. It will, John. His ass is. Huge. He's cheeked up, he's cheeked. Up got some legs on him and him. We, we, we should compare. I got I only. Talked about it. I only got Tia with three and I think I remember the same thing we did with well.

Why do you hate Tia Travis? And I'll tell you why because, well, nothing to do. First off, you did the same thing with Laura in Europe. You thought she was just going to run the table and she. Should have. She should have. If you quit those second places is first places like they should have been. Yelling bro she. Should have had four wins. Calm yourself down. John, listen. So she got what she got two. I think the same thing is going to happen with Tia. She's going to mix in a couple

seconds. She's gonna dominate and still win the event. But I don't see her winning four or five events. It's gonna be hard. I'll tell you right off the rip. She's not winning six, She's not winning six, and she's not winning the handstand walk. So that's four right off the rip and I'm giving one other one. Sorry. No, sorry. I said she's not winning event 6 and she's not winning the handstand walk. And then I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna throw one in there. I'll go with prevo anybody.

But listen, I think somebody else is gonna steal one, mix one in in there. So I give her three. I think the only chance is Haley winning event one. Yeah, I like that too. So that's why I'm I'm going like one and Danielle 4:00 and 6:00. If Laura wanted to, if there was like $100,000 money on the line, she would have won. I realize. What? I can. I can screw with John's John. 'S ball you. Into the night. Sorry, John. No, go ahead. I have never been so like like freaking pull it up.

Patrick Velner has it in the bag. So just not going to try. And and do you know what Jr. made a good point to call you out on one of the shows that you were so furious with Laura Horvath. Not, not pushing that snatch just purely to defend your ego as an analyst. That was it. Like it had it had no outcome on the competition, but you were just so cheesed about your prediction being wrong. It's because I believe it to be true that she could have if she

couldn't. If it's not within her ability, I cannot be busted up about it. But the fact that I think I 100% think she could and then she chose not to, that is why it eats me up. And I why do I feel like you were just like destroying her and her DMS and she's not even seeing them? I can just see see you furiously typing I'm. Not Savon. I don't. You should have. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. It don't matter. She ain't going to read it anyway.

So OK, I'm going to go. I'm going to go three. I don't know why. I just don't feel like this. This story's too good. If she wins all of them, she's not going to win. Even if even if she wins four, it just seems too good. I don't know. I know everybody thinks that I'd make crazy picks and I got a joke. I can't just pick the obvious thing, and I can't. No, you don't. You don't bro. You're good. You don't. You don't have, so you can do whatever you want. I can do whatever.

That's right, John. That's my app. It's. Your it's your opinion too. Like I can't tell you what to say. Taylor self qualifies. I actually just thought about this. You could actually do a little bit of a straddle here, little bit of a a earnings opportunity. Taylor self qualifies, yes or no. Currently 72% of people who have picked say yes and 28% say no. You could think he was going to qualify and bet no here and then play him in your top 12 or vice versa.

Bit of a hedge, yeah. Yeah, hedge it, We all said yes, so I'll skip that one for now. Training. So this one I'm really excited about, and John and I disagree vehemently about it. Training camp showdowns. So this wouldn't be better with a graphic but if you pull up the heat one app we have training camps and athletes from the training camps teamed up together. 1 male, one female. For proven we have Tia Timmy and Marquan Jones.

Marquan Jones being a notable athlete in semi finals for the past few years and at crash training. Think Tank has the match of Travis Mayer and Alexis Straptis, Mayhem has Roman Kranikov and Caitlin Sanders, HWPO Hopper and Brooke Wells, and Brute has Dal and Pepper and FISA Coffee by combined points. Which team takes the win? Dude, I got to ride with you with training think tank. You're my boy. Let's go. Yeah. Do you know why it's a? You know how I can prove that it's a bad prop?

Why? Tell me what percentage of people picked Roman and no name and Tia and no name Mark? You're not wrong, but here's why that's stupid as well. Tia could. Tia could pick. Tia could win 5 events, 500 points she's and then she could get like, I don't know, fourth or something, get 90 points for the the last event that she doesn't win. And then Marquan could have a good weekend.

This is a good weekend for Marquan and so he just holds her back just enough putting them I think I think the line's somewhere around 7th. Like you're going to see the average points to be somewhere around 7th if you divide it by two for the athletes, right? Roman, I think that was a. Little bit Marquan. Yeah. I think the only way it's, I think it's the only way it's a good weekend for Marquan is if he goes there for a couple nice meals on the weekend. Man, I think that's it.

I think that's the highlight of his weekend. I got to be honest. What's that's? Travis's. Hottest. Take of the I'm sorry, seems like a good dude. Seems like a good dude but I didn't even know he was. Competing, No, the meal, the meal statement I think is his hottest, I think. I think there are two teams that are like clearly the best two teams to pick. And then I think it's, you know, luck of whoever you believe in or luck of the draw on those two teams.

And that's training think tank and the hard work plays off crew. I hope that's going. To be close, some good props. Someone in the chat Draw your dagger did point out you missed mammoth training, yeah? We talked about that. I went back and forth. Dude, I would pick Emma and Jack. I know and that's why we didn't do it, because it's they're just too, to me, they're too obvious as a pig, as a pair. Also, they're not as well known like Mammoth.

Training. Yeah. Why would you do Emma and Jack if you could have Tia and Mark? Juan, I agree. Screw you, John. I I hope Mark Juan does good, honestly. They next one John corrected me on this one so thank you for that event. One athletes go sub 22 how many and this is men and women combined. We didn't see that many for the West, of course, with the stairs and. It depends on the run course.

It does. And so you better bet like I'm going to be texting whoever I can on Friday and be like, hey, figure out what's. Going on, yeah, I need to figure out the run course and then I can make a good prediction. Yeah, I think, I think that one's hard to tell. Can't really say anything on it for sure. Yeah, it's all. It's obviously safer.

It like if you made the picks now it's obviously safer to go to a one to five athletes because we don't know how long the run is. I also think they have to run out that tunnel and run up a like a ramp. It's like a loading dock ramp. This is all theory, but I've been there before actually. Will might know sort of what the course is, but anyway. Who's going to syndicate? Me Will Sousa Jr. Take your phone or like a what's what's it called? What's the camera called?

A GoPro, A GoPro and then just run the course with like a a Garmin or something? Yeah, I won't be there until Friday night, so I'll miss that event. Well, you whoever's going to be there. Yeah, maybe we can Jr. do that. That's up for grabs. I mean, like, we have no idea. And that's why I like it. It's because it's almost it's just almost a gamble. Event 5 Ben Smith beats his 2016 time. Yes or no? It's 43. I I love this one. I think.

He does. 23 is a good time. Straight up still holds up. It was top ten last week. I think he beats it. Yeah, I think he beats it. I'm honestly, when you say his name, I'm surprised, Tyler, with the way you, you know, you, you rate Mayer so high, like it's 2016. I'm surprised you don't have Ben Smith in your top 11. I want to. Vince Smith. Right, right next to right next to Marcus Hedren. Yeah. Yeah, only. One of those guys trying to training think tank.

No, I want you for Ben. But it's just like he does have age like. It. Travis has age but he doesn't have the injuries like Ben Smith is like 2 steps from a knee surgery. Didn't he just miss last season? Bro. Didn't he just miss the entire last? Broken race. The wrist thing doesn't bother me so much as your knees. If your knees are going out, that's a big, big problem. That's crucial. That's fair, yeah. Why? Who? Needs a front rack. Just zombie hold. It right zombie is zombie.

Yeah. So yeah, I'm gonna go with sub. I think you go sub, but there's, I mean like, has he slowed down? Are you guys right? Like is he just too old to keep up? No, I don't think he slowed down. I think the world feels too fast. Yeah, yeah. It's just a different. Game. He says I'm in the fittest shape of my life. I believe him. I think the. World is just fitter. Yep, that's it. Probably at for event 1 semi is a bit invalid since we can't know the actual distance that will be run.

That's the point we're going. To try to, we're going to try to update it as much as possible. Yeah, that's the point, because if you make that play, you're going to be tuning into what we do because you know that I'm going to be trying to get any and all information we can. So follow Heat One app on Instagram, but that's it, guys. Or lose or not have any info you need. Yeah, that's it. That's all we got. All. Stratus. Good show and right under two hours. Perfect timing.

I feel like we should go for. 30 more seconds. We should. I do I well, I was. I was just gonna promote the spin cast. I think Jon and I are doing it this weekend. Na East. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. So tune into the barbell spin for the alternative commentary. Every event last two heats, men and women. And the last two heats. Benton with the boys brought to you by man to sleep. Seriously, I don't say this enough. They the man to sleep masks are amazing so be sure you get those.

Also download the heat one app win 1500 not thousand $1500 for the North American semi or five. There are five airwaves up for grabs for the top 12 game last week. Really excited about it and then we'll have some big announcements for the games. So yeah. Awesome. I'm pumped. Thanks guys. Yeah, Thanks for watching, everyone. Thanks, John. Thanks, Tyler. See you all. See you Friday.

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