NA West Preview Redux

Take two you. Just want to start the show over, no y'all, give me 3 takeaways from Europe and I'll give you 3 takeaways and then we can just move on to the next thing. My, I'll give you one. Well, let's just go go in a row 123, one take away. It's not probably not my top take away, but Michael Smith, I think within the next year or two, he's definitely going to be a force. That first two days he was he was right in the game and then fell off in the end.

He just needs to work on his fitness over time. Michael Smith's coming. Agree or disagree or did you even notice him? Go ahead, Bryson. I didn't notice him but I are we doing 2 take takeaways or one? I will just go. Tyler will say one, then you'll say one, then I'll say one. But we can talk about Tyler's first. I hardcore disagree, Tyler. Hard play. One, Europe's depth is a lot. There are a lot of good guys in Europe. Two, he ended up freaking 17th place.

You said the first two events he stood out, yes. He was in top 10 after day 2. After day two, yeah, he was 28th in the second event, which I would argue is like the most fitness event. I think that event will correlate the highest with games projections. And he was 28th in that event. He was 31st in the last event, which means he's got a quitter mentality according to you.

And then he was 26th in the snatch ladder and you're just, I don't think people can make it if you aren't strong enough. It's not like it's you don't have to be the strongest guy in the room at all, but you can't be 26 you. You have to be strong enough. You have to be strong enough for workout two to not be a strength workout. 100 percent, 100%.

And like, like you can get 50, but freaking yellow host is not strong and he still had like a 7:40 on that ladder because he's that he's fit enough and he can snatch that weight, right. So your fitness has to be overloaded or you have to be stronger. And I don't I don't see that happening with Michael Smith anytime soon. Well, maybe. Everyone in the comments, everyone in the comments, we're talking about Michael Smith.

Everyone's confused. If you're disjointed, we're talking about Michael Smith. And if you don't know who that is, there's a reason. Yeah, and it's fair he, but to me, he's made leaps and bounds. Maybe it was something I was just honed in on. I had him for some underdog picks, but that was that was my first take away. Bryson. My first take away is probably Victor Hoffer. I mean, that's like low hanging fruit. But he got a lot. I mean, he worked on things he needed to work on.

He got a lot fitter. I was I thought he would qualify, but I was really impressed with. How he qualified. How he? Qualified. Yeah, because he qualified on the back half where it was much more powerful athletes, stronger athletes, and he made his move on those workouts. It wasn't the ones we thought he would do well and. Yeah. So I don't know, I I thought that was impressive. If you had that's who you want to say is coming, then I'll agree with that.

I think Victor, I think guys like Victor Hoffer, you know, Bill Leahy will see him this week, and Austin Hatfield, like I think those are the guys that have not made the games that will make it this year that are the future. Like they are going to stay around there and they're going to be potential top ten people in a couple of years. If all three of them, if all three of them make the games, who do you think? What's the order of their placement? Who?

Hatfield, Leahy and Hoffer. I like this. I like this. I'm going to keep the I'll. I'll make a note. On that for props at the. Game I will because. They're all going to make it Hatfield. Lahey and Hoffer, I'm going to say. Lahey's last out of the three of them. I honestly, I think, I think, I think I would say Hatfield and then Hoffer and then Lahey. Hatfield, I would say Hoffer and then down here is Hatfield and Lahey. Dude, Hatfield's going to

impress you a lot, man. I found it hard to pallet like how much everybody was all over Victor. I mean, it's just my thing. Like I can't like when everybody's just like, oh, he's going to the games, he's going to the games. I just couldn't fucking take it. But I like, like, I, I like Hoffer and I was happy when he made it. It was just, God Dang, it's like everybody in the world's like Hoffer's going. Yeah, I think, I mean, I think it was deserved though.

Like, I mean, people like people who can win events like that. Like if there's a handstand event, you know, Hoffer's winning it. There's a hype for a reason. Yeah, people, people like that kind of thing. People like, it's more interesting when you have these people who if a certain event comes out, you know they're going to win it when they're also pretty good at other stuff

too. It's not as cool when it's like Bronislaw and it's like, oh cool bro I. Like Danielle Brandon, everybody loves watching her do the handstand walk event. We all know what's going to happen, but Danielle Brandon's top 10 fittest women in the world? Exactly. She can also do other stuff really well.

So it's it's like still impressive and cool if you're just like Anthony Davis and you snatch 325 at Granite games or whatever, it's like, dude, you're that's what you're supposed to do and you suck at everything else. So. Hey man, Anthony's a good guy. 100% I didn't say he wasn't John. You should know that John he suck all the time. It's when John's friends with people, he gets soft on him. No, OK, You asked me. Anthony Davis is going to make

the games anytime soon. I'll be real honest. And also, Speaking of those three, I'm not on the Austin Hatfield hype train. I think, I mean, he's definitely really fit. I don't think he'll make the games, but one of the most impressive things I've seen from a Crossfitter lifting wise was Austin Hatfield posted on his story one time of him doing a hip clean, a hip power clean at 385 and then like just posting his story. I was like, dude, that is like you should post this on your

like that main. That's crazy. That's crazy. That bar, That bar travelled 3 inches. I know, yeah. A lot of people. Could do. What they would, That's true. I'm just saying, let's just, let's just put it into context here, are you? The lowest on Hatfield out of the three of those names. He definitely. Would you say you are the lowest on Hatfield out of the three of those names? No, I'd say I'm the lowest on Leahy. And Taylor doesn't have any influence on that.

No, I kinda liked I respected Leahy for the video he did when he sat down and talked with Hiller at Crash before Hiller started, you know, riding his jock. But I but I can't get over the like the rogue overhead squat where like, you know, he's coming up. He's not even like halfway up and he just drops it and he submitted it as his score. And like not even really like I

cannot get over that. That's the most annoying thing to me. Like with these athletes like Danny Spiegel, like doing stuff with like her tape line on the handstand push ups and then just being like, you know, acting oblivious to it. And it's like, dude, you know, there's certain things, the rope, the rope qualifier, the rope thing, like descending, like showing control in your descent or whatever. It's a little sketchy. So people who got penalized for that, it is what it is.

But like, you know what it looks like when you stand up an overhead squat? And this dude wasn't even like, you know, that's what a failed overhead squat looks like. And you count that Rep. As soon as I saw that, I was like, yeah, I hate this guy. You're you're dead to. Me, yeah. And, and, and at this point he's just overhyped. So it makes me like more frustrated because he hasn't done anything and people are like going crazy on. OK, here's, OK, here's a good

question. OK, what, what is overhyped? Because I, I assume you feel the same with Hatfield, right? I'm high on Hatfield, Hiller's high on Leahy. And I don't and you don't like either of them because I think us being so high on them put Dad's fire to that too. I would say. You're. High on Austin Hatfield. I don't think he's overhyped in general. I think you think he's going to qualify for the games. I don't. But I also think that he'll be, you know, he's not going to be

like last place. So I don't think it's super unrealistic for you to think that. I think it's super unrealistic for Hitler to say that Leahy's going to win the games in 2025 because he can do a back handspring. Yeah, but Hitler's been Hitler. Just throw those things out. There, Yeah, 100 percent, 100%. I know Hitler does it to like throw, you know, coals in the fire or whatever, but but these people like everyone in now is like he does. Have a.

Do you think following to him? I'll give you. That do you think Hatfield will qualify in all the other regions besides East? When he gets 6th, Bryson, when he gets 6th place, are you going to be on the Hatfield train? I mean, I won't be on the Hatfield train, but I'll be like, that's respectable, John. John was right, 6th place, we're turning this into the Hatfield show. But 6th place with these workouts, I mean, like Hatfield's great, but these are, these are big guy workouts.

These are big boy workouts. There's only like one small guy workout. But I just said it, so it's going to happen. OK. What was your take away John? From Europe. Yeah. Yellow hosted was very impressive to me. I thought yellow hosted would struggle with these workouts. I didn't know the legless rope climb workout was going to be a bike box jump workout and nobody would have a problem with legless at all. That's probably just my own biases because I have I have a

problem with legless. So seeing as that is a bike box jump workout, it may I would have ranked yellow higher than I did, but but he made it like a he was one of the best people there. Like he made it comfortably didn't really struggle with 740 something on the snatch workout, which was very impressive. Who day is his coach, right? And I have a lot of respect for Andre who day, especially weightlifting wise. So yeah, yellow host of stock

went up a lot. He's really, really he's he's doing right by the European Fakowski name. Like it's really evident and he still needs to get stronger. But he I think he's here to stay. The biggest surprise is obviously Yonukowski. But if you're sick and didn't perform, I feel like that's all we have to say. Nobody thought he was going to be that bad. He was.

Do you think he was sick? Next topic, I've heard that he was sick, but I mean if I was you know, the 6th fittest man in the world for like the last three years running and then I got 20th in the European semi final. It looked weird. I'm probably going to say I'm sick too, even if I'm not. I just want to pat myself on the back before we move on and say that I was one of the few people who said that Alyssa Fuliano was going to make it to the games.

You were, you said she would make it to the games, right? And, and you know, and somebody, somebody commented on Instagram why what happened to Lucy Fuliano? John, 'cause I said she wasn't going to make it. Nobody except her family and coaches and knew that she was going to do that on the snatch ladder, on the. Snatch. Oh, Oh yeah, I didn't. Even know nobody nobody. Look, she ended up 8th place. You make that 8th place or she you make that first place a 10th

place. Like what I thought she was going to do with the world. Thought she would probably do. Then she's floating around 10th place. Rebecca Viticin tears her ACL up. That's a spot that's out. I don't think, I don't think. Well, So what what? What I'm saying is it'll be close. Yes, she did that. Yes, you called that, but it wasn't as convincing as I think people are making it out to be. I on paper she she shouldn't have qualified. No, but she did that.

She I'm not going to take away. Her, she earned it. It's just like for anybody who would. Predict. I mean, Laura definitely pulled up in the last snatch. It doesn't matter, but you know it's OK. All right, What's next, John? Wait, I have one more take away. Go ahead. Go ahead, Mason. Judges are still afraid to no Rep people for not locking out ring muscle UPS. That's it. Ring I. Thought you were. Saying like those rope climbs, I

was like. We in case in case anybody was wondering, Taylor sent his proxy to this this meeting. His proxy? Oh yeah. Bryson, Bryson. Did did, I mean did you guys watch Moritz? Moritz Phoebig dude, that guy. That guy didn't even do workout 6. Well, he paid more than lunches, he didn't make it. So you're saying oldest is deserving?

What did you say this? Time, I think so yeah, He he would receive his ring muscle up and then you know, kind of do like 1/2 kit to just get like halfway up and then he'd lose his momentum because he doesn't have a good kit and then he'd just go to his next one. Didn't even finish his Rep. Are you able to? Pull up event 6. Do you have that power or no? There's a really good, there's a really good shot of him. They stay on him for like 10 seconds straight, straight on him.

He's right in the middle of the screen and it's just him doing no ring muscle UPS. OK, while Tyler's looking for that, we're going to go to Oceania. We're going to do that first. We're going to go with the women. Did you make your picks, Bryson, for the top five women? No but I have the heat one app I have to update it. I know only four, only four women go, but I thought we could probably go down the line. I bet we have similar picks, especially for Oceana. Yeah. Tyler, are you with us?

Can, can you? Can we? Can you talk so I can see if? You're I'm I'm looking up the, I'm looking up the, the the event. All right, Bryson, just want to go down the line, I'll say my one. You say you're one or do. You want to go up. You go 5:00 to 1:00 or 1:00 to 5:00. Say you're one because the cut line's more interesting. Yeah, I got Maddie sturt #1 and honestly, I don't think it's going to be very close. If you watched the Down Under Championship, she was kind of in

a league of her own. All of these girls were in that competition and I think the same thing is going to happen. Yeah, Maddie Sturt one. I don't think that you're is Tyler doing this too or is he pulling something up? Yeah, Tyler, who do you have #1 sorry, I'm. Operating with one screen, I've got. I'm going to choose. I'm going to go with Grace. Oh, she on ya on ya on ya. OK, so Tyler's falsely going to go with Grace Walton. All right. Next up, number I. Want to go with Grace now?

I don't think this is. Why do you think that's a dumb pick? For first, I don't think it's just Maddie. Out of Grace, out of Grayson Maddie. Who's going to win? Workout one, Grace. That's why it's a dumb pick, because that's the wrong answer. All right, Ryson. I think Gracie's probably is 2 for me. I have Gracie #2 as well. I know a lot of people are really high on Van Zeel, but I have Gracie #2 as well. Maddie for a second. Then #3. Manziel. Manziel. Manziel. Tyler.

OK, All right. Now, here's the one where we could be different. I already know who Tyler's going to pick. Do you? Yeah, 100%. Bryson, you go ahead and name your #4. It's is more. I'm going to tell you right now. It's next to to oldest in that. If you just go to events, might be he's in the. He's in the third, yeah. Third heat. The third heat, yeah. Go to heat 3, OK? Yeah, pool boy. Australian Haley Adamson, 4th. That's what you have, No. OK.

I don't know, say yours and then I'll and then I'll just argue with you. 771130 Barkley said 7/11/30 Thank you Barkley glad we need we need Barkley on this. Barkley could have done this so fast. Are you are you doing it Tyler I. John, it's hard to pull both of these up at. The same time. I'm doing Julia Hannaford. Yeah, I knew that. Yeah. I'm going to go Julia Hannaford as well, just 'cause we interviewed her and she seems like a really cool person. She's.

Who do you have? 5th and really fit. I don't know. She is really fit. She isn't really fit. She's going to be great in the snatch workout. I think she'll be fine in the handstand walking workout. There are a lot of workouts where I just know she'll be OK at the rest of the girls. I don't know a ton about my #5 is Georgia Pryor. I just think fitness wise, Georgia Pryor is very

conditionally fit. I have no idea about her legless capacity or her snatch capacity but I know I in my head she is the fittest engine of the remaining girls and so that's why I rocked with the fittest person engine wise. Who do you think wins the legless workout for the girls? Maddie Sturt I don't think it'll be close. Really. Yep. Who do you like? There was a legless workout not too long ago. I forget what competition it was in. I don't think it was down under,

but maybe it was. There was a legless workout. It didn't have a time, but it had enough that that was going to be the crux. And Maddie beat everybody. She's. 1st So you guys, you guys have picked down the line as far as ADP goes, you you're matching the fans. Well, I said Julia Hannah for number 4. She is in fourth. Oh wow. And then Hayley Adams is in 5th. Well, I said Georgia Prior is fifth. I wonder we yeah, yeah, yeah. But I wonder if this this people don't know Adams.

Maybe. All right. Men. I would hate that if I was Haley Adams, Australia. I'd love it. Like like dude, she's getting. Free marketing all the time. Oh, I'm Haley Adam. You're Haley Adams. Different. Haley Adams. Like I feel like, I feel like she gets that so much, just like Dejuan Young and John. You're the other. You're the other Haley Adams, Yeah. She she goes different, Juan. Young, I hope, I hope she makes

it and just destroys. Jr. Travis was saying that I'm a junior analyst, not AJR analyst. Oh. I think Jr. is. Confused. That's rough. Junior Analyst Jr. is a smart guy too, so that's rough to have. That all right? Do we have the same person winning for the guys? I think Ricky's. I don't. Think this is a clear pick. Listen, Jake. Jake Crouch has done. Amazing in semi finals. Jake Crouch has done amazing in semi finals.

He's beaten Ricky before, but if you look at these specific workouts, Ricky's a better snatcher. Ricky's a better runner. Ricky is. I think he's going to be better on his. He's very fast in his hands. He's the 2024 Games champ. And he's and he's the 2024 games champion. I agree. I, I don't think it's a clear pick. I think all three of these dudes will will trade blows. I even think Bailey's going to

be in the mix there. I don't think he's going to be in the mix as much as as as Ricky and Jay. But I mean, Bailey's going to going to be fighting. Bailey will be in the mix on event four and nothing else. And it's just, it's going to be Ricky and Jay, the whole risk of the way. I think so. I think we all think that it's going to be Ricky and Jay one and two. I think it's going to be Bailey Martin third. Yeah, no, I think that's a consensus. OK.

I thought you were saying that he was only going to be do do that on event 4. No no no, like he would compete with Ricky and Jay in event 4. He's going to. Be the best of the rest. The whole entire competition, I think. I wouldn't be shocked if Ricky won the freaking snatch event. I know they got Jake Douglas and that dude's stronger than anything but. I don't know from. From another strong guy that's

not very fit. Fitness is more important if you can do if you're if you can do that last match. When I talked, when I talked to him at Water Palooza, I asked him how his shoulder was doing. And maybe this is just like athlete talk, but he was like, my shoulder feels better than it did before I messed it up. It felt, he said it felt stronger. So I don't know if it's still that way, but it's like, I mean, he could very well walk away with that event. Oh, I was like, yeah.

I mean, it's just wild to me that you could basically tear your shoulder off and then it's better than it was. Before do it with their knees. That's true. No offense, Rebecca. So we're are we all three going Ricky, OK. And then two is Jay and. Then I'll say Bailey for three. I feel like it's going to. I'm sorry. Oceanic. Deserve more of a talk, but those three are really just kind of a tier of their own. The question comes down to who's 4th? I'm. Gonna say I'm gonna. Say Zach Thomas.

It's not Jake Douglas I. Zach Thomas is, he's done. It's hard because I think a lot of people will be in the running for that 4th, 4th place. I think Peter Ellis will be around there. But I mean. Do you think Douglas beats Bronislaw in event 5? No, I think. I I just said Ricky's got a shot at beating Jake Douglas in event 5 and Ricky wouldn't have you been? Talking. To me this time. Here's the thing, Bron. Bron goes to the games. He's not 38th place.

Yes, dude can't run for anything, but he does have fitness. Jake Douglas is last place. Look. Go look at where he was in the games in 2023, you know, go look what he did in the run down Under. I know he cramped up or had. Dehydrated dude. He was, hey, he was depressed at the games bro. That's the only reason he got last. But why was If CrossFit cures loneliness, why would you be depressed? Yeah, he must not have been doing CrossFit. He wasn't. They were at HWPO.

There you go. The men, the men, the men get. Three spots right. The spin show does not support. I said the men get three spots, they don't get 4, correct? I think so 4. No, the women get 4, the men get 3. Oh, do they? OK, last year was Will Kearney, Pete Ellis and then Riley Smith. Jake Douglas, of course, but I don't. I think we're all out on Jake. Oh, Barclay says four and four. But Sarah? Said that was correct. I could go with Barkley. Barkley knows.

Yeah, Barkley's. Usually not right Sarah or not wrong Sarah. Well, if Jake Douglas does end up in that fourth spot, I'd be interested to see if he's the only person that didn't finish quarterfinal workout two that made the games that. 'D be a cool bet. Because we are. Going to say Jake Douglas and workout too. We I mean we I don't think you can make the semi finals if you don't if you don't finish

workout two. I know we were talking about the big three, but I just for him to make the games with that kind of an engine, I just can't see it happening, I feel. Like Killer. Has sold his soul. OK, so that's our Europe prediction or that is our sorry, I'm going off the old things, the Oceana predictions.

I'm going to go with Pete Ellis. I think that's as safe and bet as we can do. We have really have no clue what was amazing to me, and it's amazing every time because basically if you look through the heat one app in Europe, everybody was the same. If you went to the if you went to the games last year, people picked you again. But then like the wildest shit happens. Yonah's sick Vitis and hurts herself. Like there's just a million things that happened.

So we have no idea what will the people that will actually qualify. I mean, you're probably safe with the top three, but. On that fourth spot, I think so. I think so too. I think it's an open. Yeah, I like, I like the Zach Thomas pick. I like Pete. I want old Sneaky Pete to make it all right next John all. Right now we have the big the big region. The big show where?

We're going to have hopefully disagreements we'll see in North America, North America West. Do y'all want to do women or men first? Let's go with men since we started on the limit on the other one. Hey Tyler, can you tell Taylor to politely lower his? Voice. Got it. We're starting with men. Yeah, I think let's go 11 down because it'll be obvious until it's not obvious. You want to do all nine? Yeah, I mean, I thought we'd go through 12. Then just do 2 at a time then.

OK. Oh, this is kind of tough. Yeah, you start Bryce it. Gets real hard at the bottom, all right. Velner. You got Velner, Yeah, you say why? Or you want you want me to do it for you? Is your fake Velner? Yeah. I don't know bro. He just keeps getting. I feel like he keeps getting better all. Right. Well, that's a terrible explanation. So I, I will go ahead and say why I think Velner is going to win.

I originally had Justin Maderos, but then once I saw how the European events went, I'm going to back off that event with the way a lot of those events favored the bigger guys. I think, I mean, I don't think there's one thing that Pat's going to be bad at. I think event one is going to be his worst event and there will be runners that beat him in event one, but he'll still be, you know, around 7th or 8th in that event. Event two he might win it.

Event two is grind time and who can just keep on chugging unbroken. Event two is all Fitness City and that is Velner to a tee. Other than Colton Mertens was going to set the world record on it. Velner. I think Velner is going to be second place in that workout. Event three is the legless rope climb workout, but it's all about the biking in the box jumps. Any box jump workout, Velner is thrives. If there's a box chip workout where you have to be a little bit athletic.

Belner is one of the best people his whole entire career. And then you mix that with upper body pulling and then biking, Dude, he's going to be really, really hard to beat in that workout. I think he's either him or Fukowski is my pick to win that. I haven't made a. Decision the legless workout. Yeah, I'd. Probably go with. I'd probably go with Brent on the workout I'm. Pointing towards Brent, but if I'm going to. On the legless event, yeah, dude, that one's going to be hard.

I mean. The yellow hosted made it and he's European. Bukowski and Bukowski's a better version of yellow. Hosta makes me want to pick Brent. I I agree, Bryson, but I mean, we almost agree right there too. We almost loaded this in the Heat One app, but it essentially just turned into pick your pick again. But I mean, like, there's Brent, there's James, there's Leahy, there's, I mean, there's so many guys that can win that event. And then I don't think so, dude.

I think I think you have to be really good on the bike to win that event. I think James Sprague has better shots. Than he does, you said Leahy. Yeah, but I don't think Leahy's bad at the bike. No, but I don't think he's those guys. My point, My point is like like Justin Maderos is one of the best legless rope climbers in the world, just like Leahy and I just don't think they'll have the power for it to to compete

with those guys. I think they'll make up a couple seconds every single round and then it'll stack up at the end. Event 4 is the handstand walk and then rowing. It's straight handstand walking. You can't F that up on execution. Every single handstand walk. Freaking Belner is amazing. And then he FS it up at the end. He does it so much it drives me wild. But it's just rowing paces, which he's amazing at, and then straight handstand walking. I don't think it's enough.

I don't think it's enough handstand walking either for it to like cause issues. You think it's more of a rowing workout than a handstand walk workout? You can trip and be OK. You can make up a couple seconds. I don't know if you can trip and be OK, but I I just don't think that like it's a handstand walk volume workout. I think it's a handstand walk workout but like speed and how fast you can row and still hint and walk fast. I would say you're of the fast

handstand walkers. It's kind of like who can roll who can hold the fastest pace in the rower. Unless you're tutor and you have a faster handstand walk than the fast handstand walkers. Right.

But it's not going to be like, it's not going to be like your shoulders blow up and you have to wait for sure where I would be worried about Bellner. And then event five of Redemption, Redemption City. I actually think Bellner is going to try to win this event, the snatch event, because he blew out his bicep on it. Bellner is great at barbell cycling. The guy can snatch 295 now. You know, he he 2016, he could snatch maybe 255. I was, I was thinking the same thing the other day.

I was like, I bet, I bet he tries to win this. And like, you know, yet you got guys like Tudor who could snatch 325, right? Brent snatches 300. And I know Brent did great in in in 2016. If you go back and look, dude, Brent's time is not that impressive. A whole bunch of guys in Europe beat that time. It's just they people weren't good at back then either. And he was the better of the not good people. I think Dunner's going to do really good in the snatch ladder, really good.

And then event six, I think he'll have it wrapped up by then, and he probably won't try hard and get second place because he won't try hard because that's what Velner does. And it drives me wild. But hopefully he gets pissed off when he hears me say that and he does try hard and then he'll get, you know, a third in that event and then win the competition. There's just nowhere that Velner does bad. Heidi sits at the. Mingo, Heidi, I cut my own hair, so take your money.

I don't want your handouts. Devon and I can give you a haircut at this weekend if you want. If you guys want to shave my head live on the podcast, you just. I'm cool with that, but Maris is going to be pissed. Dude, I would totally do that. Becker will be good at everything. Bukowski's by second place. Same. Because I think he's going to be good at everything too, except event one. I think he's got a shot to win.

Wait, so who? OK, first for both of you And then Bellner is second for both of you, right? Who's first? Bellner is. First, Bukowski's second. Both for both of you. Yeah. And then third place, you guys are both going to be wrong, but that's fine. OK, go ahead, Tyler. Tell us one. I I was getting ready to say I think Samuel Quant's going to win, OK. Next. Dude, tell me, tell me, tell me how he's bad. Event one. How does he mess? He is. He can run.

He's no not as not as good as the good runners. Maybe, maybe, maybe not. But I don't think he falls very far behind on that. And I think he has the capacity, no, yes, he snatches more than that. No, he does not. I think he has the capacity to win. Snatches more than what? 285, he said. He said 285 was his PR in 2020. Sure he might have gotten stronger, but you don't look any stronger with anything he's shown since. And then I got Pat a second. But John, you keep saying that

it's a fitness workout. Right. I do. I do. I understand that. But if you got guys fitter than you that snatched more than you, you're not going to beat those guys. Yeah. No, yet Kant's going. To be I I get the I get the argument. I'm just pointing out the fact. That I'm talking about to win. You're just throwing his own. Argument back in the face. Right. Yeah, he ain't there. I agree, but. Here's where it's going to get fun.

It's three and four, but actually from here on out, because it's it's going to get tired. You want me to go first? Yeah. All right. I got Justin medearis #3 and then I got Sam quant #4. OK, Bryson. I have Colton Mertens in 3rd place and you guys are wrong for not picking him. OK. And then I have Justin Maderas in fourth, OK. Go ahead, Tyler. I have Brent Fukowski in 3rd place and I have Will Leahy in fourth. Now let's all fight each other. Now let's all fight each other.

I. There's only one right person. I'm not, I'm not going to do, I'm not going to do what Kiefer did. But why would you pick Colton that high? Because he's going to beat everybody below him, that's how. That's how leaderboards work. I don't know what else to tell. You give me a give me an event by event play by. All right, well, he's not losing to Justin Medearis in any workouts, I bet. He loses in. Workout losing Justin. Medaros and. Workout. He's not. He's not losing the bill.

I bet he loses workout three and four to Bill. I think he might lose. He might lose workout 3, but that's it. And four. No, he, he hangs. Out with Taylor too much Taylor does that. She always like no. All. Right. But yeah, I mean, I just, I think you guys would be surprised with Colton this weekend. I hope you're right, I. Think I'll be surprised with Colton. I just know if I think it's third place, yeah, that would surprise me. If Colton doesn't get third place, I'll shave my head.

Oh no, willing. I'm not willing to bet a free you. Already here and I, hey, he just offered that we don't got to do anything. I think he really. Wants and then and then I think Justin Medeiros will get fourth because I, I, I kind of called Justin not winning the year that he got 13th, but I didn't. But I, you know, I was thinking he was going to get like second or third. Yeah, I called him not winning and not getting top five, but you know, it's OK, you're good.

Should I cut out? But I do think that he just had like, it was kind of like a fluke year. I don't think he's going to win the games. I don't think he's going to win semifinals. But I think he will be back to looking more like the normal Justin Medearis that we saw in the couple years before where he has multiple, multiple finishes inside the top 15 and not never really falling too far outside of that. Yeah, I think he'll have multiple finishes in the top seven. I would, I would be.

I would even be willing to say he has more than half of his finishes top seven and then he's around 5th or 6th place at the end of the weekend. Then you pick him third. For the semi final, cool, that's a that's a tough pause for the semi final. Oh, you're staying at the games? Yeah, at the games, OK. My that's my 3:00 and 4:00. OK, You want to explain why you're so high on Bill Tyler? Me. Yeah. I think he he's got, he's really not that tall, but he has the

springiness the tall guys have. He has the power that tall. Like he has a lot of power. He has all the skills, the handstand walk, the rope climbs. I mean like what's? So does everybody else. I know, but I think he has it more so now. Yeah, the rope climbs are meaningless though. I agree, but he can Sprint down and I think he'll sustain the power on the bike. I I think you're wrong John. I think he's going to be able to hold with the big boys on the bike and then the box jumps.

Like I think he will recover on the box. Shelves I think the non rebound hurts him. Yes, you're not wrong about that. Like if he could rebound your 30 inch box jumps, I think he could do that very effortlessly where the others probably couldn't. This is for J Rs, but still, if you if you're able, like if you're a a high jumper, those box jumps just take less out of you like they're going to take a shit ton out of Colton. And they're going to take a lot out of Colton, yeah.

And and the step down doubly so. I really hate that for him. Dude, I did that workout and I know Bryson did that workout the like the step down. I did it. It is hard like like it it's it's just. The step down, the step down I think makes it harder and I that's why I, it gets really annoying like all these people complaining about like enforcing the step down.

Jr. made a really good point on shut up and scribble the other day where he just said it's the same thing as like doing handstand push up. But hey, you can't use your legs. You gotta do it strict. It's the same thing. It's a different version of a movement that you, you know, are familiar with. That doesn't mean it has to only be that way. I think the step down is great. It makes the workout harder and it makes it a different workout doesn't mean that it's a worse

or better workout. It's the same thing. Everybody's saying they should have done step overs in quarter finals so there wasn't a judging issue. That's just skipping over the problem and hiding it. You don't need to change the workout just to, you know, fix people who can't move well. I. Do I do think it skews it to an even more of a big man workout than it already was though? Yeah. But I, I think if you're going to change anything, I don't

think you changed the step down. I think you maybe make the legless mean a little bit more. For sure. No, no, no, As far as if you want the same stimulation change to work out, I know. I'm just talking about the box like it's that's more of a disadvantage for Colton than if you were, if you could jump down, I I would think. I think it's more of a disadvantage to him because it felt awkward to me and I couldn't. Imagine if I was sound like a liberal.

Can I wear your hat? Hey, no politics. No politics on this show. God Dang it. Sorry. I'll get your KKK sign, Tyler. Yeah, Oh, don't. It's to go over. It's to go over for like Jason's joke during fucking quarter finals all. Right, five and six. My five. My five is Colton, not far off from. Your. Three. Just more realistic. I like that. I like that. I can respect that, John. And then my six is, is Bill Leahy you. Want me to go or you want to? Go, go ahead. I'll go. OK. Go ahead.

I have Sam Quan and then James Sprague. OK. I don't mind either of those. I have James Sprague and Brandon Luckett. I don't mind those. Brandon's going to be the He's the hardest one to place for me. Yeah, Brandon's a bit of a wild card. He's a bit of a wild card. I 100% agree. I I have Luckett and Sprague is my 7:00 and 8:00. So you all going to say you're 7:00 and 8:00? Because I feel like we're all in agreeance right now, and then we're going to differ on the

last guy. Well, question, how is Luckett? You know Luckett, don't you? Yeah. Not like super well, not not great do. You know Luckett's? Do you know Luckett's snatch? Like his one RM. No, I don't. But I know that he's, I know that he's one of the weaker people. What did I say? He said he captained that workout. Really. Yeah, no, no, Luckett doesn't luck. The one. Luckett's one. Like whole weakness. Like he's decent at everything except he's not very strong.

OK, so we want to do you want to do? But same for James, same for James. They're kind of like they're very similar athletes, I think. That will be, yeah, You see that? What did James snatch at the Games 265 and he snatched 270 at Zelos. Yeah, and it was like a big PR And he shouted to the heavens. Yeah. He posted a video I think of him doing 265 and it's cool, like doing that in training, but then you got to do it. 100%. But some people, some it's easier, some it's harder, but

then like. I would argue when you get to that bar on that particular workout, dude, your your back is trashed and like it's, it's not the same as regular lifting or in a workout, you're not sweaty. It's like your muscles are fatigued. It's not, Yeah. Breathe heavy thing. And Instagram, I'll be right back. Instagram is like a highlight reel, of course, but since the Games, James Sprague has posted some crazy like lifting complexes that are.

His clean and jerk has gotten way better, way better, but I haven't seen Snatch. Extremely impressive. Yeah. I mean, I, I've definitely seen crazier clean and jerk complexes from him, but also like think about the fact that it is a, he can snatch 265. So even if his snatch isn't like crazy blown up, if he's getting stronger and getting that hip power in those clean injure complexes and this is a fitness workout that your back's going to blow up by the time you get there.

All he needs is for his back to be stronger. He can snatch 265. It's just about snatching 265 after the 28 reps before it. And he just he doesn't have to be super strong. Your Max snatch could be 275. You just have to be strong enough to do that last bar at the end. You don't have to have cause like your fitness will take over more than more than your strength in this particular workout. But I mean, we'll see. I think he finishes the ladder.

I don't think he, I don't think he doesn't finish the ladder. But it's just gonna, it's just gonna be slower than everybody else. You know who I think who I think is going to shock y'all on this particular workout? That particular workout is, I think Colton Merton's going to murder that workout. Yeah, that'll be. I'm excited to see him do it. I like I. Bet he flirts with six minutes. I don't know about sub six, but I bet he flirts with that six minute mark.

Who do you think wins it? I'm going to say Velner. Oh. OK. I I think Colton beats founder in that. I will I truly I have I I would be thrilled if he did. It's that event is kind of hard to call for the boys. It's it's really hard because there's not anybody that just there's not a shoe in. You know, like Braun was going to beat everybody and everybody knew it. Tutor snatches 325, but he it's hard to believe in Tutor just because he's he's had fitness. He's just not super.

He's not the same level of fitness as those other guys. He's shown that time and time again. Alyssa correct, not tutor or dancer. Well, I mean, she's asking about them, but like like in Sam Dancer, Sam Dancer, I don't think Sam Dancer is stronger than he was in 2016. Sam Dancer is a masters athlete. I think he's, you know, I don't think he's fitter than he was in 2016. So if you go look at his time in 2016, it wasn't the times that are going to be put up here.

And maybe he is, maybe I'm wrong, but he wasn't posting 6 minutes or anything close to that in 2016. That was eight years ago. But all right, my, my seven and eight was James and Luckett. It was like Luckett and James Sprague, who are y'all. 7:00 and 8:00. You can go, Tyler. Justin Medeiros and Colton Mertens. Dang bro, why do you hate Justin? My 7:00 and 8:00 is Cole Greeshaver and Samuel Sperlin. What? I'm telling you guys. Cole find Who the hell is Sam?

Sam Samuel Sperlin, he did the He did the fittest experience two years ago and I was in one of his heats. I know, I know. Exactly. You know what? Else he does. That's all I need. He ain't. Making it for sure. You know what else he does since then? Steroids. Sentinel. That's why he's saying. Sentinel. He's making the games, baby. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I'm just kidding. Good luck with that man. That's worse than Leahy being #3. No one tests Saplin.

He's not on steroids. It's just the effects from Sentinel training. Sperlin. Yeah, he he's. I tell you what, if Sam Sperlin makes semi finals I will join Sentinel. Sam, there's a lot. Riding on your back now, if John wants to make a semi final next year, you got to make the games. He was like, he was like, you know what? I wasn't going to do it. But now I'm. And they could freaking take Sam Sperling to the games like they, they, I believe in it. I that's the greatest marketing

tailor we'll ever have. Is Sam Sperling making the games? Did you say yours, John? My seven and eight was Sprague and Luckett. OK. I mean, those are justifiable. I think you're just you're fuzzy on how they'll do overall, right? You can't. Correct. Yeah, Yeah. I don't know how they'll get there, but I think they're going to get there. So the last, the the last qualifying position is number 9. Who's your last? Nine OK #9. #9. I hate, I hate that I'm about to

say this name. I hate mine too. Because I don't think he's very fit. I think we might have the same person. We might all three have the same, but I. Think I think Tudor Magda is going to go to the games. That's my name. Dude he couldn't ask for better events. That handstand walk is just a straight handstand walk that's there's no obstacles. And and I mean, if your rower is legit, you had the fastest score

at all of the open. So if that was an actual legit score, I don't even care that your deadlifts were trash. You had to row a monstrous pace to have that kind of a score in the open. Right. Who's programming is he following that right now? Who's his coach? Do we know he's got? Like 6 coaches. Nice, that's always a good decision. So and in the guy I he's he's

out of the men. I don't think he's as fast as Danielle Brandon, but out of the men, he's probably the fastest handstand Walker and I think I think he's a faster straight line guy than Victor. I wouldn't put a handstand walk event with actual fitness against Victor, but straight handstand walking speed. I think he's faster than Victor. The so yeah, I'm going to pick Tudor Magda. He's got and then he's got a 325 snatch. He should do good in the snatch event you know the guy is really

strong he's really strong. I don't think the 100 LB dumbbells are going to do anything to him. His worst yeah Jr. I'm talking about people that matter and Matt Ratay is not currently in the semi finals I. Love. Matt. Matt is amazing. OK. Great guy though. Matt's a great guy. I met him in the physics experience too. Mighty Mouse for people who don't know, you should go watch Water Palooza lift off back when they had that and this little dude just lifts more than everybody.

It's pretty crazy. And he also. Go ahead. You go. You go, you go. No, I'm going to move this on, so go ahead. OK, before we move on what I was about to say, the only reason I hate that I had to say I think Tudor's going to make the Games is because of the same reason that I don't like Bill Leahy. If you can't stand up your deadlifts all the way, I just don't like you. I don't. That's it.

I don't like that you can beat Down and Pepper in an online competition, but then you get to a real competition and you're 40th place and down and Pepper is second. Yeah, that's that's what I don't like. I can't stand when people have that hard switch to live competition. Like I get the other way where like you're bad in online competition and then live competition you're much better. That shows that you are who you actually are and you don't cheat things.

It does the other way around the other. Way around. Is is just super fishy to me and I don't like it. Last three picks in the Heat One app are 1011 and. That's why Yonukoski didn't make the games, because he was first in quarterfinals in the open and it was online. You get a live competition, can't do anything. I'm just kidding, Yonah. I'm just kidding. That was a, that was a, that was a low blow, but. Who were the last three people outside of qualifying? Outside of qualifying, I Bill

lady. Oh, you, you have Bill that kidding. I can't wait. I wish you were on for East 'cause I don't think Travis is going to be quite as controversial as you are. I have Cole Gray Saber. He's a super fit guy, but I just don't think the events stack up as well as they did last year for him. And you smoked last year, but he didn't impress me very much of the games, so I have him not making it. Zach Bunton. I think there are going to be events that Zach Bunton crushes.

He's a dark horse to win the snatch workout, but also I think they're going to be workouts that crush him. And then 12 I got Cole Sager. I think Cole Sager will be on the outside looking in and then I think he will send the last event kind of like more it's Phoebe. But hopefully he can do his ring muscle UPS correctly so Bryson don't cuss him out and he'll either be able to hold on or not. But he always sends the last event and he always usually does pretty well.

But I think it'll be just a little too short this time around. Bryson. Yeah. Your last three. Oh, I just have Bill Leahy not making it, got Tetlow not making it and we had to order for 9:00, but. That's all right. That's OK. For me, it's going to be Cole Sager, Cole Grease Saber and then Daniel Koos. I have no idea where, Daniel. Dude, you love that dude and that dude is not relevant.

So funny, I don't disagree. With you there, I think he's so immature and not in like a Taylor, not in like. AI don't disagree. I don't disagree. Taylor's immature, but it's bearable and it's funny most times. Koos is immature, like to of to of like, just not funny way. Does that make sense at all? Rice? Do you understand what I'm saying right now? Hey bro, I'm I am on your side John. OK, OK, OK. I I don't know if it's like getting across as.

But he's entertaining and I like people who bring entertainment for for people who wears a moo moo to water palooza and does an event. That's my point. That dude shows up and then I want to go in the other room. And that's fine. That's that's the best way to describe it, what John just said. You don't even have to talk about it anymore. The dude shows up and you're like, I just don't want to be. It's not. Taylor's there. I want to. It's entertaining. We'll. Have a good time.

It's not for you, but it's entertaining to some people and and that's what I like about it all. Right man. So shout out to him what I do like about what we do. That's your worst. Call of the day, right? There, that's fine. It's the 12th place. I don't, I don't really care. But what I do like about this is I'm actively filling out my top 12 and I missed that last week. And so I liked I like this all. Right. Females, we got to move, so we got to do threes. Well, we're making good time.

Yeah, but we're not top three cut off time from the junior analyst. Alex Kazan, Ariel Lowen, Abby Dummett. Oh. Dude, the the student has learned well because that is my last. That's my first three as well. In Oh, really? In order In order. That's awesome. The women get 8 right? Yes, Sir. Yes, that's where the green line is. In order, I got the same. I got Gazan, Lowen and Domain, and I think people are going to say Gazan's going to win the Games after the semifinals.

I think Gazan's going to dominate the semifinals, maybe not to the point or did, but like it will be convincing that she's first place. And guys, Alex, if you're watching, Jake likes to watch these. Jake, if you're watching, you're not going to win the Games, but you do have a shot at the podium. The only difference for me is I I flip Dome it and Lowen. I think the the weekend favors Dome it a little bit more than Ariel. Dude, Ariel just doesn't have a hole. No, yeah I agree.

But like like for Tudor, it's just the weekend is built better for Dome it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we'll see. I don't I don't I. Don't I mean at the end of the day, I. Disagree, but I I'm just going to give Lowen's fitness above I don't I'm not mad. I'm not mad that's. Interestingly on that, Domit has a ADP so she's been drafted in 7th on average which is crazy. Like people are really low on Domit. Maybe I just. Don't know her name? Yeah, that's true.

They're looking for the doughnut girl and they don't see her doughnut. That's how Savon calls her. Next three. Next three I got Fusile and then Emily, and then Emily Rolfe and then a little bit biased Kelsey Keel. I dude. Rebecca Fusile can't do a thruster. She can't do a thruster. Bro. How's she going to? How's she? Going to do a snatch, but she can do a snatch. Bro, that's that's a bold, that's a bold pick, Fusole. Who's going to beat her? Tell me who's going to beat her?

Rolf the the fucking events, Devin Kim and Kyra Milligan. Get out of here with Devin Kim. You're on the wrong podcast. You're going to start talking about her. I Emily Rolf. Here's my pick to win event one after that Rolf is going to be 10th place in everything except the snatch ladder where she's going to be like 20th place. I think Fusile beats are off in the snatch ladder. I know Fusile is not not the strongest but I think she beats

her. I think I think Fusile beats her and almost every workout except one and and three. I think Fusile beats her and every workout except one and three. And you would. What about two? I think that they'll be close together. I wouldn't put. I think Rolf will do, really. Well, about 6. Dude, I think Boosley will go on broken in the muscle UPS, and I don't think Rolf will. And that'll be enough for her to lunge past her. And here's the If Rolf was

strong. If Rolf was strong, Yeah, If Rolf wasn't broken in the lunge, she's not strong like, like she's not like. She's not Sam Quan. You know what? I. Mean she's but but listen this is what we talked about earlier Rolf is strong enough to make the workouts, not strength workouts I. Think I don't. Think she is. I think she's weaker than Fusole. I don't think like in in in the context of event 2, she's not weaker than Fusole. In the context of event 6, she's not weaker than.

Fusole, I think she is. I think she is. I think I think that's that's well go OK, for me to have Fusole as high as I do over her. Obviously I have to think that she is and and then if she's not, she won't be. You know what I mean? It's that simple. And I just think firstly is I know you don't like her for her thrusters, but you know, like on on to the next one. I I'm so and then I have Emily Rolf right there next to her and

then I have a Kelsey kill. Kelsey kill's going to have a couple workouts to kill her and I think she's going to kill a couple workouts. I think Kelsey Kill is. Going to kill. I think that's the best. She'll be the best of the bigger girls, right? You got Spiegel Kerstetter and Kelsey Keel and I think she will be the best one out of those 3. My, did you say your three? Yeah, Bryson, Yeah. Who is your 3? Rolf, Kyra Milligan and Devin Kim. That's right. Rolf Kerstetter, Kyra Milligan.

I think, I think Olivia's going to struggle. Yeah. On on the on the run OK. On everything. The road 11. She's going to struggle 2. She's going to struggle 22. Two, she'll be fine. I just think there are women who are going to be fitter than her. But two, I think she'll be fine on two. Yeah, OK. It depends on what you want to say. Struggle. I think that she will not be in the top 15. I think she'll be top 15, I don't think. She'll be. Will she? Qualify for the Games.

In that and if that was oh, are we talking about straight up or just that event? Just straight up is she going to qualify for the games? I well, we'll get there when we get there, man, while you're like. Trying to, well, you guys are talking now that I'm thinking about, I don't know, I've thought two more. Two more inside the cut line. Yeah, Event three, I think she struggles a lot. I've been, I've been four.

I think she'll be pretty good at Event 4, I think she'll be really good at event five and then event six I think she'll just have to break the muscle UPS up and the girls who don't will be ahead of her. I wish we could actually like that. I want to get to the place where we can actually do this in the in the app or that sort of stuff like. Those are the most fun. Oh, you're 3456? Whoa. Me, he says. I just said it, but now I'm feeling weird about Curstetter 'cause you guys aren't wrong.

And I you should feel weird about that. Like that's terrific you didn't. I believe. Even a #3 so it's it's. Fine, I I believe in the future at Curstetter and maybe I'm just a little bit hype on that and so I'm second guessing my pic now, dude. I was just. So like her at Water Palooza. I just cannot get that out of my head. And she was so bad at Water Palooza and, and until like I see different, I'm not going to predict different.

Yeah. My last two are Kyra Milligan and then I have Olivia being the 8th person, the last person in. My last two are Morgan Porter and Emily White. Yeah, this is this is Morgan. I know Morgan. This is a Homer pick because she does Sentinel I. Know Michael? Dude, she was great last year that Olivia Kurstetter was not there at Water Palooza. The most recent time we saw her, she was not great. The thing are you thinking Morgan? Are you thinking, Morgan, just 'cause you were?

You guys are picking, you know these people because of what you think they're doing in training and how much better you think they're gotten. I know, I know what I know what Emily and Morgan have been doing in their training. And I'm not giving you crap for it. And I'm telling you, if you're like, you pick these people because they do Sentinel training. That's what Bryce just doing. I'm not giving you crap for it. It's just that's just what you're doing.

Thanks for coming over to Part 2. Yeah, probably have like half the people. Everyone else just probably thinks it was a. 20 minute show. We would have had 2000 live years if we had enough screwed. 100 percent, 100% Tyler, who are your last? Did we lose Internet? OK, I changed. I brought Danny Spiegel up into six, so I'm going to put Kelsey Keel in and. You take Olivia out altogether. Yeah. Don't want to sway you that. Bad. No, I think it was. Danny before. She was in 7th.

John, where do you have Sydney Michalischen? I have her 12th. Are we? Yeah, I she shouldn't be in the semi finals. Oh, because of the open. First step UPS. First step UPS worse than Luis Oscar Mora. So that's why I have. That's why she's not. She might make the games if she had good reps, but you know. Right, 100%, that's how it goes. All right. Just out of qualifying. Yeah, just out of qualifying at 9th and 10th, I have Bethany Flores and Hattie Conyo.

Bethany should make it. She's fit enough to make it. She's freaking 15, top 15 fit, fittest woman, fittest women in the world. But she is incapable of doing anything heavy. And there is a couple heavy things at the at the semi finals this year. So that's why I have her where I have her and then 11:00 and 12:00 I have our our I have Devin Kim and then Sydney Michalyshyn and then Danny Spiegel would have been my next person. I have her 13. I would. I have.

What's her name? You just said her. Bethany Flores, Sydney Michalyshyn. Danny Spiegel. I'll miss it. Where's Where's Olivia in that? Farther down, she's not next. She's not next. Did you say Kelsey Kill? No, I'd probably put Kelsey next. I would put, Actually, I'd put Kelsey above Danny Spiegel. But not making it. Not making it. Yeah. Will said the other day that the West region feels like a island of misfit toys. Dude it it is, man. It is you wait, You cut out.

What'd you say? Will the other day said that the West feels like a island of misfit toys. I would be really happy if Kelsey Keel made it. I just. That's my notion and that's my thing. It's like we it, it's so hard 'cause like all of these athletes are weird in the lineup. Like I feel like it's. Tough. I mean, it's tough. When there's only eight spots and you're coming up against Emily White and Morgan Porter. It's hard.

Make it in. I feel like I want to push back on Morgan only because confidence 'cause she was team last year and I feel like she's, but I mean like she was a college gymnast. So she probably thrives under pressure. But that's the only thing I worry about with her is, is is confidence. I, I feel like the, for the West women, there's like a, a tier of

five girls, right? And you can put them in a different tier if you want, like different tiers amongst themselves, but like 5 girls that kind of everybody agrees on. And then the next three spots, there's about 12 names that could be in those three spots. Even Yeah, Jake Felton's comment right here won't keel outperform Bethany. I wouldn't even be surprised at all if she did. Or vice versa. Like, it's kind of like. Luck with the.

Call for those last three spots and it's really it's like 12 different women could be in there. I know a lot of people are high on Devon Kim. I don't know why. Can you explain to me? Can you explain to me why you're so high on Devon Kim like? For her to be ranked. OK, is that I want an argument you got for me. She's fit. Well, what's the argument for anyone when we're talking about a competition of who's fitter than other people?

I can. Run through the events and tell you that they're going to be better at those events. Tell me the events that Devin Kim is going to be better at than the other women. Bryson's one of those assholes that just keeps notes of what you say, and he's like, yeah. Not one. OK, so not one isn't great for her. OK, event one not great for her. OK. Not great, but I don't think that she's going to get destroyed.

We'll go Olivia, 'cause I have Olivia, you don't have Olivia in, I have Olivia's the last one. So we we. Can take. OK. So you're saying who wins versus who? I we call one or draw. OK, Devin Kim wins event one over Olivia. OK. All right. Well, OK. Do you not agree with that? That's not a hot tape. I think it's. Going to be closer than you think. All right, bro, you know Olivia's going to. Olivia's going to be looking like Bronislaw. I do. Think Do you think Devin Kim's

going to beat her? But not by that much. OK, well I think she's going to comfortably beat her so we can both agree, Devin. Kim. I think Olivia would be Devin Kim. I disagree. I don't think event two I'm. At an event, too. You think Olivia's good? Dude, it's a, it's a, it's a fitness workout. And they're both strong. They're both strong. The only argument you can right But the But we've already talked

about this. As long as you're strong enough for it to be a fitness workout, it's not a strength workout. I, I, I'm saying Olivia is, is fitter and in gym fitness than Devin Kim is. I don't think that she's better at toes, bar, double unders and front squats at that weight than Devin Kim. Not all three of those things I'm on. I'm on his side with this so so. Would you say quarter finals workout one would be a good a good like fitness test? Like that was the fight gone bad

one. Yeah, how fit you are CrossFit wise, like engine fitness. I don't know, because because of the rest minute, I don't know if it's as much like engine fitness and because some people just have really good grip and some people have really bad grip. I think it. I think it can be a good correlate. For sure. What's the point you're trying to make? I'm like, we want to pull up Devin Kim's score versus Olivia's score in that.

Like I think you're already, I think you think Devin Kim is fitter in like CrossFit workouts than Olivia. And I'm going to tell you that she's not. That's where we're, that's where we're having the disagreement. Well, I'm going to tell you that she is, because she is. Olivia had the best score in the world in that workout. Beat everybody. Well, beat. Beat Laura Horvath in that workout and that into the argument. Look at there. To be cut out, we back. Yeah, you're you're back.

OK workout 1. Devon Cam workout 2. Devon Cam workout 3. Devon Cam, we're already going to disagree. All right, all right, all right. Workout 2 Draw Fine workout. I think workout one is more of a draw than workout 2. So Kim for both of them then? Workout two, I think Olivia will be top 10. All right, well, Devin Kim's gonna be top nine then. I don't know what to tell you. Workout 4 Olivia. Workout 5 Olivia. Workout 6 Probably Olivia. Do you but workout three? Devin Kim.

Workout three. Devin Kim, do. You think Olivia's going to beat Devin Kim and workout 6? Yeah. No, no way. No, no, no. That's a horrible take, John. We'll. See. Moving on to betting with the boys, we're just going to go straight out of the Heat One app this week. We tried it a little different last week where we didn't, we just did all fresh can. I state why I'm down on Devon Kim real quick, because I. I know like. Like a lot of people are high on her when?

Go for it, you're going to do it anyway. Yeah, dude, people are hiring her. She won the cross for games. Yeah, as a team. Athlete and she's. Not and she's not Rich Froning like as a team athlete. I don't think when team athletes make the switch to individual, it works out almost ever. Like it's it's it's. I would agree if you don't win the games. For who then, other than Rich Froning, who'd it work out for? Well, no one who won, no one who

won the game switches. I'm just saying all the people you're talking about switching are people who were like, you know, on like shitty Mayhem teams that weren't Rich Froning's team. Yeah, but not Andrea and Taylor. They didn't go individual. Andrea did. But tell me right now they wouldn't do well if they went. Right, right. Especially especially females on a games winning team you would. Think that's what I'm saying. Like you're, you're, you're. Andrea would be top 15.

For sure. I don't think for sure. Had a baby like a month ago and qualified to go to San Patrick. Browner just went on the team for one year just to con around. It worked out for him bro. I'm just like, there's not a lot of examples where people are on team for the majority of their. Career. No, it's none. And now there's not a lot. Well, you haven't really given

me any solid ones and. There's, I will say John, there's a ton of examples of people on low tier teams going individual and not working out for them, but that's not what we're talking about. So give me the example of a high tier team where they went to individual and then they killed it. Devin Kim this year. OK, if she breaks the bolt then sure, but I haven't seen anything that would show me that she's going to. Colton Bailey Rail down here. Sailor Telf.

When was Colton on a team? He was on, he was. On CODA, what was his gym? Coda Kilo. CrossFit Kilo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was way before he went individual. I'm talking like OK and made the games next year. Like Bailey, like the people you're saying went individual and then did semi final train for a few years and then made the games. They did team because they couldn't make it individual. That's why Devin Kim is not that is not that athlete. She could have been individual a

long time ago. But when neither is Olivia Curstetter. If if Olivia Curstetter is then Dev. Her beating Olivia. If Olivia Kurstetter is, Devin Kim definitely is. If they're both not, then I can then I can tolerate that argument. I think you really don't like Olivia Kurstetter. No, she's cool. Realistic. Yeah. She just, she's really, really strong and she needs to get fitter. Do you? I 100% agree. You want to place a bet on Olivia versus Devin Kim? We can make that the first

betting with the boys. You cut out but, but I'm assuming you want to bet on that. You want to make a the first betting with the boys, We can make that who finishes higher, Olivia or Devin Kim? Yeah, I'm down for that. OK, I'll bet Olivia. I bet Devin Kim. Yeah, yeah. OK, Tyler. Devin Kim. OK, we'll see. What are we? What are we betting? It's overall, I mean, we can bet something if you want to. John shaves his head if he's

wrong. What did what did what did we bet before Before. Because we bet we had a bet before I. Don't know you would you would you would join Sentinel if. No, no, no. Something happens. That's not it. That's not it. No, you had to. I had to run like 10 miles and you had to do. Oh. Yeah. That is not an equivalent. Travis. Travis is in that group chat. Travis what? Was that bet? That bet was on, was it? If. You beat man 6. No, it was if it was if Taylor beats Austin Hatfield or.

Not, oh, if Taylor beats Austin Hatfield or not. OK, that's right. I just wanted to. I just didn't know if that had already happened yet. Yeah, yeah, Jon, you have to shave your head and grow mustache if Devin Kim beats Olivia Kurstetter. I just, I will not bet that. I'm not confident enough to bet that. OK, I'll. Throw $10 on it. Moving on, I don't want to talk about Devin Kim and Olivia Kirstetter anymore.

Moving on, most event wins. Could it be Pat Bellner, Brent Fukowski, Justin Medeiros or none of them? I think it's between Bellner and Fukowski. But, he said, or none of them, like, let's think, can Colton win? Too. Oh, is it? Is it an A&B like it's one of these three or not? Or or none, Yeah. OK, I'm I'm betting with a then. I'll accept. I'll accept a, a name that could also win multiple events. I think Brent could win too, but I think Pat could also win too.

Agreed. I think if Justin wins one, it will be the handstand walk one, but I don't I don't think he will win one, but like if it he wins one, it'll be that one. I think Colton could win at least one and I think he could surprise and win two, but. Bill Leahy might win most positive COVID tests before the end of the weekend. But I don't know, maybe I think, I think I'm going to say Brent. I think Brent's the most likely to win two.

I I I'm leaning towards Brent but I think they, the owner and Brent could both win 2. Justin could win one. And I think Colton could be an outlier to win two, but not more than that. So, but I think Brent's the most likely. I'm going to say Brent. I'm going with Brent as well. That's worth 15 points. Women most event wins. Alex Kazan, Ariel Lowen and Emily Rolfe. If you're not following along, we're in the heat one at playing the heat one. Prop I guarantee Alex Kazan wins 2 events.

Yeah. I would bet a mustache shaved head on that. But can anybody else win multiple? I think lo, I think Ariel Owen could win two events but I but I don't know if she will. What do you think Ariel could win? Three, I think. She could win event two and I think she could win event 4. I was going to say 3:00 and 4:00. Three, she won't beat Alex at 3:00. Two seems a. Little Wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. But two like I think. She could win the one that's on

that. 155 on the. Event 2 that's. Like Arrow Lowen is very very crossfitty gym fit. I think she could beat Alex in that workout. Her double unders and toast bar Great. Like I just don't see her stopping in event 2 if like I don't I think she's beatable but she would be my pick to win that event and then event but I don't know if she will or not event 4. Who for event 2? Ariel Lowen and then Event 4, the handstand walk one, she is the like very, very fast in her

hand. She's not Danielle Brandon, but she's very, very fast in her hands and she's the third fittest woman in the world, right? And I probably actually like 5th or 6th like actually, but like she can hold row paces with, with the big girls and I think she'll just handstand walk faster and I think that'll show out. So like I think she will win event four. She could win event 2, but I guarantee I I know for a fact Alex Gazan's going to win event

3:00 and 6:00. One important thing about Shot Shot Caller this week? The props, we are going to add props throughout the weekend. We learned that last week during Europe there was so many interesting things that happened that we couldn't have known beforehand. So like every day we will add props. So make sure. You watch. Your updates, yeah, there's just storylines that that unfold that you don't you're not prepared for so anyway, so. I'm going to say Alex Kazan for the women.

I think I'm going to say Alex too. I think she's just the safest bet and she's getting, I mean, right now she's polling at 69%. If you think Emily Rolf is going to win event 2 then I she could win too. I don't think Emily Rolf's going to win too. Well, I know we were talking about her on event two though. I don't think so, right. But like if somebody did think that? She'll be better than whoever whoever we were comparing her to.

Yes, Yeah, she'll be, she'll be fitter than Fusillade in that workout. Yeah, yeah. I'm most excited about these the winning pairs. So for event three combined time. So this is the the legless rope climb. Which pair has the better score, Sprague and Tetlow or Lahey and Mertens? Has a lower score. Lower time score, lower time who, which which? Lahey, Lahey and Mertens, I say. Sprague could win this event. Yeah, I I would. I would. Yeah, I'm going to agree with. So you you think Tetlow is

going? To I think there will be more time between Mertens and Tetlow than there is Leahy. Did Sprague. Yeah. Even if Sprague wins the event, Leahy will be 10 seconds behind him. I think whoever Colton is paired with wins. He's he's going to do it in, he's going to do it in 6 minutes. What is so tet? You think Tetlo's worse at Rd. climbs? I think he's 5 three and Colton's 5 four and I think Colton is fitter than him. Yeah, one inch is going to make all that difference.

No, I know his fitness is what's going to make all the difference, but Tetlow is has just as disadvantaged as Colton and then he's fitter. Hear that, Sprague? You're going to have to pull for the team on this one. Well, I mean really, really, the worser person of the pairing is the one that it matters the most. What I because the. Best 2 will be neck and neck. Yeah, I agree. I think, I think this one's a

little tough. I mean, we just don't know how much Sprague is going to blow this out of water. I mean, he has the potential to like really send it. What I can't wait for next week is all of the major teams so proven mayhem hard work pays off are in the East. You better bet your ass we're going to do this for the teams in the East. It is really hard to do that for for the West, just not as many teams in the top. Anyway, I think teams, I think teams should be separated like

age groups. Just be a completely different competition, no? No, no, no, no. Like training camp. Sorry. Oh. Oh yeah, I see what you're. Saying, yeah, I'm saying I'll pit those. Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, that's. What he's that's what he's saying. Like you have a may, that's what a team, a hard work pays off team. OK, OK, OK. A brute team. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah. A Sentinel team. Since they won't do it, I'm gonna do it for them. Is there another?

Guy. Is there another guy from Sentinel Bryson there? In the West. East. Oh, I think so. I can pull up our Instagram post. Right there, Tyler, we can pull up a team. Oh. Yeah, that's what I was saying. There's only one person. Let's just do combined times of everyone on the team and then Sentinel's gonna win. Last event or last prop is event 5 winning pair for the females. So this is the snatch work work out who which pair does better.

So we have three Spiegel and Rolfe, Kelsey Keel and Rebecca Facilier. Fusilier, I always screw that up. And Kirstetter and Flores, that's for. That's for Bryson. What? Dude, I think I'm going to say. I'm going to say Kelsey Keel and Rebecca Fusole. I know. I think it's Spiegel and Rolf. I know. All right, Taylor. I know for a fact that Keel is going to go sub five and Danny Spiegel was not that the last time she did it. She got beat by Chloe Wilson at West Coast Classic in this exact

workout. And I know and I know that Kelsey Keel can go sub five being the best scorer in the world, better than Laura, better than Fuliano and then Danny Speed who got beat by Chloe Wilson. If Rebecca Fusole can't just do that last barbell, I think that team is going to. But that's such a big if she can't, it doesn't matter. But Emily Rolfe can. Yeah, I'm more confident than Rebecca. Her her Max is like 175. Who's Rebecca's Rolfs. Rolfs. Well, they're both not good.

They're both the same. I know. I'm. Saying Emily Rolf is really weak. Like, I don't know why you don't think that. I think I am very confident that Rolf will finish the workout. I'm not very confident that Rebecca will. And also Spiegel leaning into the whole like, oh, I'm an influencer. Like I'm not just a cross fitter. Like she's going to get a bunch of contracts for winning events. She doesn't care about placing high, she doesn't care about

making the games. So I guarantee you she's been snatching for like a month every other day. Well, that's cool. Last year, last year at the snatch, at the snatch in the semi finals, the Max snatch after the 800 meter run, Fusole did 175, Emily Rolf did 165. Emily Ralph must have had a slow runner. I don't know what to tell you that's. I. So Flores and Kerstetter aren't even in the conversation for you all? Well. No, I think they're second.

I would pick them second but. Honestly, that's probably they're probably a good pick. I could see the argument for all of them. Bethany is just so hard to know anything. That's the thing. And I also just wanted to get it on the yeah, I just wanted to get it on the roll first Fusilla thing. But I but I do think that the the last pick is still a good pick. I, I was funny as I think these teams are like really good, like all three of them, like as far

as like a pairing against. Each other that match the match up is is pretty flat I. Think at first call, everybody hears that and they go, oh, Spiegel and Rolf just like Taylor did. Like, like you hear it and that's what you think. Emily. Rolf is really, really weak. Danny Spiegel got beat by Chloe Wilson in the exact same workout. And like, it's not as cut and dry as you think.

It's not as just who's the strongest person, but I think most people initially will say Spiegel and just like you guys did, I think most people will think that like that's the pick. Those are the, you know, Emily Ralph's the fittest person in that list. I definitely, yeah, I definitely agree. It's the knee jerk reaction pick, but I don't think that means it's still not the best pick. Like it's definitely what you immediately think about, but you continue to think about it and I

still think you'd land on that. Like it's like, oh, who's who's gonna? Who's gonna do better in quarterfinals, John Young or Justin Medeiros? The knee jerk reaction is Justin Medeiros. It's still the right answer. I don't think that argument applies to this conversation, but thank you for that sounding astounding analogy. That's it for the betting with the boys and also the the prop bets and the shock or the heat

one app. Like I said, make sure that you stay glued to your phone because new props will come out. Be sure you're making your plays. You can win $1500 this week. Yeah, and for everybody who beats me, if you send me picture and proof that you are ahead of me in the shot caller app on the on the Heat One app, I will pay you a dollar in your Venmo. That's all I got for the show. Yeah, I think everyone's getting that and we're getting close to Sevon going live. How is?

That is that what you're like all scared about? What's he at 8:30? All right, we got we got 12 minutes guys. Y'all got any questions for us? Some. Questions I want steak right now. Have you if? Anyone wants me to answer your question? You got to join Sentinel. So if anybody wants to ask me or can't. Hear your. Question you go ahead and and we'll give you till 8:20 and then we're packing it up. Is that fair, Tyler? You got one. You got 60 seconds.

What did Taylor say? I can't hear him. What did you say? He just went. Summer wants to know why you have an angled mustache. I don't. Know it's just how it grows. It used to be a lot worse. This side grows that way, and then this side grows down. You know what you kind of look like? You kind of look like a chick from cars. The green car. Good. Chicka good chicka. Yeah, that's what you look like. That's what you look like, yeah. Who's the fittest between the three of us?

That's Bryson. Bryson is definitely the fittest Travis, but you know, depending on the events there's stuff I can get him at I. Can lifting lifting? Event six man. I bet you I'd I'd beat you in event 6. Well, you haven't done it yet, man. We said we were gonna do it, and you've been chickening out of all. They were making fun of me, we were walking to the store earlier and they made me feel like an absolute asshole. What did you say? I don't remember what he said.

He's talking about some forerunner. And he was like, look, that God Dang forerunner good Roko Jackson, Roko the. The cards that we are so clean, they are ancient and they look brand new. Not brand new, but they look great and I guess that's what we're gonna go through this really. Quick, why do you think Tudor has no cardio 'cause he doesn't, Travis. Easy answer.

Why Kelsey? Regarding team, She took like two years to go on a bobsled thing and then she did a year team to get back into it. Wildly different. Oh, I don't know. That's a good point, Thomas. I don't. Know John Satan on all these people who go from go from team to individual and you know he's. He had like a two year hiatus. That's that's a little bit different. Are you guys live? Yeah, we're about to end it. It's two medium fries that are free, not six Nuggets. That's an odd piece.

Nugget. Nugget. Yeah, I know. Hey. John, did you see Wendy's has Mcnuggets now? Are you gonna try those? No, Tyler, I'm not. I'm trying to be healthier. Gay. Have I seen Kyra's shirt that I inspired? No, I have not Paper Street? Is it on a story? Travis, he did not win a 20 minute conditioning workout in the open. Get that out of here, dude. He doesn't stand up. He doesn't know how to open his hips. And I don't believe the rower is is is real. Those fans are twisted.

He did what Travis brought did at the Charlotte Classic. He put a towel over the fan and then it counts. Way too easy. That wasn't in the rule book, dude. Kiefer Lommy. Kiefer's going to. Send me a pic. Good deal, good deal. Kiefer did. Tyler Ray won't get tired of him. That's racist. You where? Where in Indiana do you live? At Tyler.

Bloomington, is that anywhere? I mean, Bloomington is its own like as far as Indiana towns go, It's a, it's like a notable Indiana town, but it's South. It's like southwest Indiana. OK. It's not. It's like an hour north of Louisville, two hours north of Louisville. Louisville, Louisville. If you say Louisville, you're an asshole.

Louisville Slugger, you're. A good dude Yep, there you go there's that all right guys, I think we're going to wrap it up Thanks thanks for bearing through our our screw ups and. Don't do not go watch part one. Thanks, John. Thanks, Tyler. Thanks Spin. Yeah, thank you, Bryson for coming on and filling and filling in 3rd row. I thought I thought you did great. Yeah, that was fun. You did. I would invite you.

I would have you on again. Unfortunately Travis is next week, but I. Don't know we can do. Travis, All right. So next. Are you going? You're going to go watch Sevens all right. You're going to Knoxville, right? Yeah, yeah. All right. See everybody next week. Bye.