Jayson Hopper Joins The Spin; JY's Final GAMES MOUNTAIN & Mid-Season Awards

All right guys, welcome to the spin. June 12th. J Hopp is like he's still in a salt mine somewhere and he'll be here in a minute, but didn't want to leave you guys hanging. So we are going to start off the show. Tyler Watkins from Heat 1 welcome and John Young JY Barbell. Yes, Sir. In the house. Good show for you guys tonight. Hopefully Hopper does join us. John Young has updated the Games Mountain so it will be the final Games Mountain for the 2024 CrossFit Games.

Some changes there. He had me working on the graphics all day long. Was it really that hard to make it I'm? Excited to see it because I like. It's not that different in my opinion. Yeah, you got a little funky there, so, you know, I got it. I got you'll. You'll when I explain it, you will understand why I could not have it. Like how it was does that. You'll when I explain it, you'll get it. I mean, you probably already get it, but yeah. And then after that mid season awards.

So the best of performance, biggest surprise, a few things like that. So and then we'll end it and wrap it up with a blind rankings presented by Amantha Sleep. All right, while we wait for Mr. Hopper, we are going to jump down one and go to viewer comments. So this one is a little long. So, Hank, so so bear with. Us, don't waste your time with this. Are we really reading this one? Oh yeah, we're reading this one Oh yeah, at the AT vanilla ghetto.

I'm giving you boys alike. So we're off off to a good start because you're the only ones that called out the complete PCBS of the amorphous smoke and mirrors feel strength of field excuse of adding to the already overslanted games spots allocation to the four regions that will be very over represented at the games, Asia, South America, Oceana and Africa. Then I almost took back my like because of your trifecta of of obtuseness regarding Rogue's

stars of the past big name algorithm dudes. Hello. They want the crowd favorites, not the UN and barely known upstarts at their elite all paid sponsorship event. It was a hilarious wasting my time listening to the three males use the correct word. Women, not females twist their little heads all confused.

Seriously debating the merit of the CrossFit rating system to the Rogue Equipment Sales event sponsorship qualifier, I mean the Rogue Invitational. So with that, I'm going to switch over, Thank God to Mr. Hopper. So how do you feel? How do you feel about that comment? What's up, boys? What he doesn't know what happened. Honestly didn't. I didn't hear a word you said. It's it's good. You're better off for it. Yeah, I I wasn't, I wasn't listening either.

I was just. Yeah, the the viewer comments, they get a little wild out there. So have you. Did you survive the salt mines? I did. It was a good time. I was. Looking everything. I was looking everything down there. How deep was it down there? 700 feet, 700 feet, That's what I thought. So if you guys don't know, you went out to was it Redmond salt and? Yeah, and and you talk Salt Lake? He's altitude training. The under it's double if you go

underground. I jumped on, I jumped on a trampoline out there and my heart rate got like 190, like 5 minutes of jumping. I'm like, oh, they're just checking out my pulse. I'm like, what's happening? So yeah, what were you doing? Just checking out working with one of the sponsors or? Yeah, they brought us out there and just, you know, they showed us the mind shows HQ and just blessed us. We went to a Luke Combs concert and put us up in a in a nice Airbnb in the mountains.

So super fun time. We went, we got we got dinner with Downs family when we got there. So they just showed us around and it was a good time. Awesome, awesome. Well, thanks for joining this evening. Yeah. What we, what we, what we talking about? You know your your resurgence back to elite level competition. Mountain update, bro. Oh my goodness. I'm I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay here for that. This is a. This is a This is the final

mountain. This is the final the final mountain for 2024. Me and John had like a hour. It was over text. Long long text thread about that. Oh, I can't imagine that. It's a heart. It's a heart to heart. Tears were shut on both sides. We'll see where we'll see where this one goes. I think you moved up a little bit, is that right, John? I know I'm not sure. We'll get there when we get there.

No, I wanted to have you on. I mean, you've been, you know, lots been talked about last year and now it seems like this year doing, you know, Taylor versus the world, we've seen a lot more of you. It seems like you're enjoying competing again. Is that a fair assessment? Yeah, I mean, it's just a lot less stressful, a lot less pressure and just a lot less volume. Feel like last year it was the goal was obviously to to, you know, podium at the Games. And that's all I focused on with

everything in my life. You know, I packed up my bags, moved to Vermont, basically sold my soul to the sport and, you know, and it gave me the return that I wanted. And I think it was because I gave probably, you know, too much time and attention and stress and effort to this one thing and I got burnt out. And that was all good until

after semi finals. I feel like I peaked out semi finals last year and IA few a few weeks after that hit a wall and started having all these injuries and, you know, couldn't train how to, you know, scale all these things. And the reason was because I was just lost. I was burnt out. And I feel like this year I took a different approach and I wanted to enjoy it a little bit

more. And so I was, I'm not willing to sacrifice everything in my life for my, this one goal in, in CrossFit. And if that doesn't get me to where, you know, I want to go, then I'm OK with that because I have a life and I'm OK with not standing on top of the podium because I have other desires in my life. That doesn't mean I'm, I don't want to do that. And that doesn't mean I don't want to strive after that goal.

And you know, I'm that does also mean I'm going to be pissed if it doesn't happen because I'm super passionate, I'm super competitive and you know, I want that literally more than anybody else in the sport. I can, I can promise you that. But also I have different, I have other priorities and I have to, I've learned my lesson that I have to give attention to those other priorities in order to function well as a human

being. There's balance. And I've realized that the more balance I have, the more fun I have, the more relaxed I am, the the less serious I take myself, the better I'm going to be on the competition floor and so. In your defense, when we saw Brent go all in, he did his first all in documentary. He did terrible right after that and then. Ariel, he did a documentary. Oh yeah bro, he went. He he like. It was all in was. We walked walked with him the

whole year. He'd like released like an hour of an hour of a documentary every like month and 2000. 17 or 18? The year after he got second, I want to say like he got second and then he was like, this is maybe two years after maybe 2019, 'cause it was his worst, it was his worst year he ever did like in the games, like the last three years, yeah, though they're really fun. You just type in Brent Bukowski all in, like it'll pop up on YouTube and and yeah, he did the worst he ever did.

And he says, I think it's just I'm do it taking it super serious every single day. Like your life breathes. This is all you think about. You go to sleep thinking about you wake up thinking about it. I think there's not healthy. I think there's a cap because like look at Ariel, like she says she's like still, she's still mom and full time.

She can only train like a certain amount of hours a day and she's killing it. Like I think there's a like there's a Max capacity to how much you can be an athlete, especially in our sport well. They got an offseason. Yeah, I know we do. We kind of do too. But you could train during that offseason. Is there really an offseason, though? Like that's where you make your gains?

Like that's where you're really trying to advance, I feel like so. Yeah, it's just, it's just super demanding and you could get into that pitfall. You can't sustain it over time, but you have to have rest. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know if you saw Josh Wooley, Emma's Emma Lawson's coach, they just put out a video on Mammoth and. Dude it is insane. Is there one healthy young female mentally? Just think. About around the world, think about. This. No. Isn't it insane dude? I didn't get.

All the she was the she was the one that had it all together. Freaking I I feel like something had to happen with her and Jack because they're both just having a hard time right now. Will someone give me an update of what it was? Yeah, give me an update too, Junks. I didn't get all the way through it. OK, I I didn't watch the whole the whole video. So none of us know what we're talking about. Go ahead. I will, yeah. So basically Josh kind of did a 18 minute recap video, Emma.

'S coach. Yeah, Emma, Jack and then Yolo Fullos coach recap of all semifinals. And in that he brings up Emma Lawson and essentially he kind of kind of dances around it, but says that she had a pretty tough year coming into the season and for for less words than not. Like like mentally, mentally burned. Out. Yeah, like he wasn't sure. Yeah, he wasn't sure if she was actually going to compete this

year. And really, and then they, they, I don't know, got the help or did whatever they needed to kind of the support her through that and got her at least to a point where she's competing. But I feel like of all of the young women competing, Emma was kind of our thought of like, oh, she's got this all together. Like she's going to prom. She's gotten all this stuff going, I think. We're five for five and under 20 years old women having mental problems. Think about it, Who is there?

I think Olivia's Olivia. Olivia, but she she's not at the games. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, I think Jason, no, I think Jason called it though like if you are all in on this like it can eat at you for sure and. I know what it was, dude. He was missing those sweet potato pies in South Carolina. He couldn't get none in Vermont. It's it's sweet potato cake, man. Whatever. It's a freaking pie, dude. Dude. Then things are banging bro. So yeah, go and you know.

Yeah, Did Graceann move to Vermont with you? Yeah. Yeah, did she like I? She had to think. About it that that would have been so bad. Dude, no, she had a tough time. Was it harder on her than it was for you, 'cause I know my, my best friend lived the like fourth string NFL live where you had to move. Like, you know, he was on five different practice squads. Yeah, You know, you know what

I'm talking about. Where like, you don't know where you're going to be and then you got to move and you just live in different places. Yeah. And I know his wife had a he was. He was just dragging her around. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, and I know, I know his wife had you know, you don't can't make friends, right Like 'cause you're going to leave again. And it's it's hard on a lot of people don't see the other like the spouse side. Yeah, no, she, she had a tough

time. And I think she probably had a tougher time because we were in Vermont for me. We weren't in Vermont for her. And so she was just there, really just supporting me. And I guess she had no friends here or there. And so it was terrified in a sense. I drug her away from her, all her friends, you know, her home. And it was all a huge sacrifice for my, my, my goal. And so it was super, it was super selfless for her to do that and and she put the team on

her back. But it definitely it with all, with all that sacrifice and demand and all the things that we did sacrifice, it was definitely tough on her. If if you had said, let's let's say had you had podiumed last year, would you still be in Vermont, dude? That's, that's or that's. A big if man like. Well, it sounds like your mind was made-up. I'm saying I'm saying like, as you know, obviously they were what? Does that mean John?

That's such a hey, if I made the games this year, that's that's basically the same jump. No, I mean like you, you hit your goal, right, But you're everything outside of that is just falling apart, I mean. No, I I don't think I would have stayed. The reason being was if it worked in Vermont, I knew I could replicate it here. Everything that went on in Vermont, you know, you know, the training, the volume, the intensity, the all in mentality, I could easily replicate that here.

I just wanted to see it. I wanted to there's. A learning. Experience, yeah. I just wanted to be in that environment. And so it's definitely, I could definitely have brought it home. Do you? So what does your training look like now? And are you, I mean, how much are you working with HWPO? I'll actually work with Jr. How much trampoline jumping are you throwing in? There, now you have a 55 minutes a day jumping.

I was super. I would, I would say I've been pretty hesitant with volume since last year. Like I've been like, I think that's the thing I've been probably the most cautious about is overtraining. And so all from rogue all the way up until a few weeks ago at games, training or semi finals, there has been like a, a specific dose of volume that I would allow. And if we went over that or if I started feeling bad or anything, I would just be like, no, I'm, I'm, I don't want to do more.

You know, a couple years ago and every year up until now, if it was written, I would do it like no, no doubt about no how, no matter how I felt, no matter what it was, I would not skip anything. And then since last year, I've been a little bit more free to be like, OK, I'm good, you know. And so since Rogue, the plan has been to ramp up the intensity as much as possible and lower the volume because last year it was all volume, but I couldn't, I couldn't sustain the intensity.

So I got to the games and, you know, I was, you know, burnt out. I'm dead. I can't keep up because I'm just, I haven't trained intensity. I just, you know, I have all this. We lost you. You're out. Nope. Your Earpods. You're back. They probably died. Can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you now. And so I got to so the whole thing was ramp up the intensity and manage the, the, the volume. And so that was the plan all the way up until semi finals, honestly. And that's what I wanted.

I wanted to kind of increase and peak at the right time. That's kind of been the whole goal going into into games training and so not much running because I had a base, I knew I could become a top 10 runner within two months. And so I'm I was confident enough to not do be running. I knew I could be a top ten strength in the top ten in any any sort of strength at the games. And so that's also a base I have. So I'm willing to put that aside for a little bit.

The only thing that I'm wasn't super confident about is like pulling and skills. And so that's literally the only thing that I've been doing. And I, you know, run once a week and touch a barbell maybe two, maybe three times a week. And I feel like I've done that. I've done did that all the way

up until until semi finals. And now I am ready to, you know, start implementing that run volume, start touching that barbell a lot more like I was last year at the same time, you know, continuing to touch those those skills and, you know, the pulling and all the things that, you know, trip me up naturally. And so, yeah, I feel like now is the time to to really, you know, take a step in. And that's going to also come as, you know, we get closer to the games.

It's like I'm not going all in next week. It's going to obviously increase as as we get in into this deeper and deeper. And so, yeah, I'm excited, but I have a lot more say in how things are going. I'm, I'm, I'm sort of like the just, I don't know, I kind of have a lot more say. So like I, if I, if I feel like my body can't handle something, I'm, I'm not afraid to say it. And yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a lot quicker to say no to things as well. And so yeah, hopefully it all

works. How how many pullovers have you done in the last 10 months? Can I can I ask why that was hard? I'm on athletic man. Yeah, you played for Clemson, but you're on Athletic I. Truly, I truly don't understand that because I, I feel like, I feel like if you're athletic, you could just kind of figure it out. Like you're, you are one of the

fittest guys in the world. And I had never done a pullover and I just jumped and did it the first try and I saw you not be able to do it. I'm like, there's something, why can he not do this? Like I don't, I don't get it. Hold on, basically, hold on, hold on. John's basically saying he's as fit as you. That's not. What I'm saying, that's not what I'm saying. Quit putting words in my mouth. That's how the lucky things started. People put words in my mouth. Honestly, yeah, but but you have

a point. Like honestly, I was like super confused as as to why that was happening. It's not only that, it's like other things like why does it take me longer to learn these skills that for the athlete it should come, come naturally. And the only, the only like conclusion I can tell you is that I'm an athlete, a super athlete in the sport because only in running, jumping and throwing, because that's all I've done. And so you that's all I've done for my entire life.

That doesn't mean I could just jump on a pull up a rig and you just do whatever you want me to do or do a backflip, you know, and so. I mean, like you're saying, like, yeah, you are a field sport athlete. You never pull. Ever. I suppose if you look at Justin Maderas, because I wouldn't consider Justin Maderas like super athletic, but I think I think he could figure out any, any gymnastic really quick. Yeah, but wrestling is gymnastics.

Like it's partially gymnastics. Yeah, moving your body. I'm dude, I was, I was dumbfounded just as much as you also, and also very, very, you know, that's not the only, that's not the only movement. You know, there's a lot of things I'm like, why is it? Why is it taking me so, so much time to, to learn or to master something? And so when people just, you know, learn it in an instant and I'm like. I think I think though, you know, running and lifting come real easy to you.

I think you got a good luck of the draw and genetics as far as that stuff. You can improve very quickly where a lot of people can't improve one of those very quickly. That's a very that's a potent that's a potent combo like Jeff Adler. I would argue is is similar. Yeah, it takes, it takes a tough time for for him as well to learn a new skill. And so I don't know, man, just kind of where the cards fell,

but I'm trying. From Kenneth's lap, how did how did you and Dallin become such close friends? He came up to Vermont to train in 2021, before the the Games. We hated each other before then. Why? I don't know, after when I made the games my, my first year, I wanted to be the only like young guy there. And so I had known about Dallin and his like upcoming. And so I wanted to be like the rookie there that was going to

like put on the show. And so when I went to West Coast Classic to watch him, he he didn't make it. And for some reason I was just ecstatic about it. And for some reason I've been praying on his downfall ever since. You didn't, you didn't walk over and said you'll get it next year, man, that's. No, but we, we ever since then we've been in like group chats and then we saw each other for a brief moment and chatted a little bit at Watapalooza that year.

And that's when he came up to Vermont for a week and we just, you know, hit it off. Then I was like, oh, well, maybe I'll, maybe I'll do. When you said 360, just behind, just behind me. Right. With with the games going to to Fort Worth. Could you imagine if the games went to Vermont and then that was Hopper's like, greatest Games? And then it's such a redemption arc about that. That would be why. Go ahead, Go ahead, Fort.

Worth. I mean, is there anything different that you're expecting or like the rumors of what might be different in there? I mean, it's obviously going to be mostly indoors. Like does that change your training at all? I don't know what rumors you're hearing. I I don't know, do you have any rumors? I mean, I know there's a group that in here probably in it with one of the zoos that have been programming for me. So that's all I don't I.

Don't know anything about. We don't know anything about that yet. I know I know more about the masters than an individual. Yeah, nothing leaks like a sieve though. Jr. All I got was a text from Jr. saying he was going to do a study on everything and program accordingly. So yeah, he's. Probably reverse engineered the

programming by now. Dude, he's, he's probably, he's probably doing like a Google Street View of Coliseum, going around the Coliseum, knowing how where we're going to be running and whatnot. Well, I've, I've already searched out the pools and I think I found the pool that you guys will be at. Yeah. So yeah. You think we're actually being woman? I yeah, I think so, yeah. At, at at this at this place. No, at the pool that Brian's talking about like it's, it's like a mile away from the the

venue. Yeah, you can technically actually run there from Dickies. I just, I feel I asked Castro that and the way his face kind of smiled, it just makes me think for like, yeah, I, I mean, I'm completely reading. I'm completely trying to read Dave Castro, which could be a huge mistake, but it made it feel like there was going to be. A well last year was the only year of no swimming since 2011. So really I didn't think about that.

So it's going to be another situation where you got to be super important to go to the that like it, like it. Was we won't get to watch. It no, there's no chance. How was that conversation with Dave John? It was fine. He didn't know who I was. So Sevon. Sevon goes. And I, I hate it when Sevon does this. He goes, he goes, he Dave goes, who is this guy on the screen here? And and seven goes, you don't know who John Young is like, like I'm like I'm somebody.

And then Dave goes no, like ever. And he did that. He did that in our my very first interview show with Haley, with Haley Adams. I had never talking spoke to any of y'all. OK, I'm nervous. I don't know anything right? And then Haley and then 5 minutes before I go on. So everyone's like, Oh yeah, by the way, we're going to interview Haley Adams and I'm like cool, right? And then great. And then he goes, Haley, this is John. Do you know John Young?

Like, like and. This is like I actually I actually watched it. Oh, the Haley Adams one. No, you and Dave, Dave. No, he's fine though. You look pretty giddy. Everything that I'm about he's he does not care for so. Like dude, he told you to quit talking. I I know. What'd you think about Jr. during that? I know, I know, I know. I'm like, all right, well. Not surprised about Jr. Like he was quiet. I I was like, is Jr. ever going to talk ever again?

He talked like in the beginning and never said anything ever after. Dude yesterday we were in the gym and he he gave me a work, he gave me a workout, did the workout in the in the morning and I texted him how it went. Fast forward like 5 hours, it's in the afternoon. We're in the small room of the gym. One point O right I'm sitting on a bench, he's sitting, he's working out during his rest. He texted me back. We're five feet away from each other.

We haven't said a word to each other all day long. I'm like this right here is a problem dude. That's a problem he wants to have, man. I guess, man, I guess he's I. I know he's listening to this too. Oh yeah, he'll be he'll be in the chat at some point. Yeah, after you leave, he'll come in the chat. Yeah. Well, I do. I do think it's good that Dave is like that though, where he like he doesn't care who's going to place where he doesn't care who's good, he doesn't care

who's bad. I think the guy who's programming the games like should be like that and shouldn't know the athletes because he doesn't know. He doesn't know y'all very well at all except the except the, you know, the best ones in Brook. No offense to Brook, that sounded bad, but y'all know what I'm saying. Somebody, somebody's got to clip that, Take it away. Brooke Wells now hate me. Now that's all right. She don't know who you are

either. Me and Brooke Wells went to the same college, you know that like at the same time. Did you guys talk? You have class. I didn't, I didn't do, I didn't do CrossFit back then. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know what CrossFit was. Well, well man, Congrats making it back to the games and good luck in Fort Worth. I think we'll all see you there, so let's. Talk about these mountain. These mountain now. Oh, he's going to stay on. For the mountain.

I mean, if, if, if Ryan's down. Oh shit, here we go. I don't mind. All right, here we go. We're going to skip ahead. We're going to go all over the. Layer by layer, right layer by layer. The Mountain is here. And how familiar are you with this mountain there, Jason? Barry. Well, before we get to the mountain, we always start at base camp. So John, give a refresher of what is base camp? All right, so base camp, you're

not on the mountain. You are not one of the best people at the games, but you can make some noise. So base camp is top 20 material, or you are a home run hitter known to hit home runs and you're somebody that will tell the story of the 2024 CrossFit Games. All right, here is the first four athletes at base camp, Rosima, Delmet, Brookwells and BKG.

Yeah, I mean, you gotta you know what's funny is this is kind of a breakfast club of people right here because BKG you got the veteran that you can't not talk about. He could be top 15 any single year. Brooke Wells is on the comeback trail showing resilience like she does and her ice barrel of the following. Abigail Domain is a up and Comer and I think she's going to be somebody, though I don't think she will be unknown after this games. I think Abigail Dohman is going

to be top 15 this year. And Jack Rosenba, I mean when we get to the superlatives he was, he's my most improved. He's he's a semi finals guy that never broke through that made the games easy. So I don't really know what to expect of him, but he looked really really good at semi finals. So is this it just that you don't think like you don't know on Dalmet? Because I think you're low on her right now, No.

No, I know. I think she'll be top 15 in the games, but the women that I have on the mountain, I don't think she's better than those women. OK, OK. Can I pause? Yeah. I realize that I'm not going to be doing much talking here and I don't have AI, don't really don't have a reason here. He just wanted John to say he wants to know where he is. We can come back to base camp. Let's climb that mountain.

Hike down the mountain. Wait, show the next four and then and then we'll throw the first tier. There's the next four. OK, Victor and Gee, I both think and win events. Sam's top 15. Luck has been proving me wrong all freaking year. So I'm gonna ride that train until he until he stops. And then Maddie Sturt. Maddie Sturt's been a a reckoning in Oceana, but on to the mountain. These are your best. People, here we go, the bottom of the mountain. All right.

And now this this year is top 15, top 15 material. James Sprague was not on this list. And by the way, when I mean top 15, I mean top 10 to 15 in that range, OK, not top ten, but should be underneath top 15. Any surprises we have, we have to talk about these people. I'm sorry Hopper, your your cheers the next one. Grace domit Domit not being ahead of grace. It seems wrong to me. Gracie's better. I like spring there. I like spray there.

And I think. Because you know you're over Sprague. Dude, me and me and me and Hatfield have AI like I like Hatfield. I didn't know he could. I didn't. I didn't know he could run. Dude, I didn't know he could run that good dude. He's dude. He, he's the grassberry bro. He grew up playing soccer. I get that, but when you're freshly 70? Dude, if I would have known if. I would have known that he played soccer. I would have just assumed that he could run. He could definitely run.

He came out with a Adler. I mean, I think he was the second guy in from Adler on that first run. And I just melted. I thought this is the biggest mistake ever. I was like, stop it, Austin. Stop it right now. I mean, I thought, I, I thought the same thing, but then I realized that he played soccer after and I was like, oh, that. That's not surprising. No, I know he kept it. He kept it.

I know a lot of, I know a lot of soccer players that aren't going to keep up with Jeff. I went up to him after and I said I didn't know you could run. And then the next event happened and I went up to him and I said I didn't know you could front squad. And then he came up to me after the the echo bike and boxing said I didn't know you could ride.

And then after every single event, we I the person who who obviously did the best, would the the person who did the worst would come up to the person who did the best and be like, I didn't know you could fill the blank. So it was just a a running joke. It was funny. I like him. That's funny. Yeah, he's a good dude. Karen Freova. No improvement from last year. It's not no improvement, it's she's where she needs to be. She'll be around 10th place.

Was she in the same spot on the mountain last year? Yeah. Yes, yeah, OK. She's where she needs to be. This is where she will finish. She don't finish about 10th to 11th place. All right, the next row there, there's Mr. Hopper all. Right. And this is, this is top ten material. This is people that I expect to be in a fight for the top 10. John just says you're in top ten

'cause you got 7 one time. No no no hey this is who I expect to fight for the top ten with what they have showed us this year and the only reason Hopper went up a level it for Dang sure wasn't a semi finals performance. Can't even win an event. It was Taylor. Taylor. One of the world. An event you're supposed to win, not event four. I don't care about event four. That's a rowing event. Come on now. You got to. You can't touch a shackle and think that row.

I think that Rep counts anyway. But no, it's Taylor versus the world. I think he's shocked. At based on based on me touching missing the rope and touching the the shackle, does it not tell you that I had the capacity to win and is that not enough to? Put up, that's enough. That's enough. You got to, you got to come clutch man down, be higher if he would have beaten Roman in that box jump workout.

But he didn't. But you're looking, you're looking at what is when you need to be looking at what could have been. That's what a true, that's what a true analyst would be analyst that's. What I'm telling him. That's what, yeah, here, that's what Tyler does. Yeah. You should go ahead and see how Tyler usually does in these things. You're. Referred to our our most recent reel. You need to. You need to be looking at the potential. OK, why would you say you should

be then? I think I should be right there. What? The freak are you talking about bro? Somebody very impressive though that wasn't here that is here now is yellow hosta. I think yellow host is a mainstay. He's just he's just been a monster man. I thought he would struggle in this semi final.

I did not know the rope climb workout was going to be all big man box jump bike workout, but dude, he freaking murdered it and I think he's going to I think he's going to be top ten material it. He needs to get stronger, but he's somebody in the next few years. I wouldn't I I think he's going to be there for the long haul. All right. Hey John, I got I got AI got a question for what's the best to the best analyst in the space? How much do you think all this comes down to luck and

programming? I think after the next row all all of it wait. A minute. So here's here's what I'm talking about. Here's what I'm talking about. Go ahead and do the next row. So, OK, scratch that. All right, these two rows, all right, so look, look, look, I forgot, I forgot which rows was, you know, you can leave that row up there, leave that row up there. All right, So these bottom two rows, I think a lot of it's programming. For instance, I think Lazar is capable of beating you.

I think you're capable of beating Lazar. I think Jay's capable of beating both of y'all. I think yellow Hosta, Probably not, probably not. He's probably on the bottom of that row, but but 20 lbs stronger. Yellow is capable of doing that too. Same for Haley Adams and him at all. I think they could beat each other then. All of that depends on programming. I think James Spray can finish ahead of some of y'all with the right programming.

But and all that is a lot and all that's a lot of luck, right? So you don't think the same with the 3rd row? No, I think the 3rd row has shown that they are going to be in the running for top five no matter what the programming is. Now that doesn't mean that you can't be in the running. It's just every single year they're going to be in the running as of right now. Does that make sense? Yeah, but I would just have some push back. Well, obviously you're on the road for me.

I I, I don't. It wouldn't make sense if you didn't have push back. Yeah, let's just let's just say, I mean, who's on the 3rd row? And here, here here's. Here's what I'm saying for the. The 3rd row this is this is their this was my like thinking process for that row with a perfect games, a perfect run. I think they can podium OK, any any one of these people. I do not think you can podium with a perfect run as of right, as of as of right now, that's. Crazy John. Well, prove me wrong.

Let's just say. That's a long pause, man. No, I'm I'm just trying, I'm just trying to think of a games that would. That's right, you can't think of 1, so let's move on to the next row. We already talked about one. If you like changed up the events. Now I see. All right, all right. But here, here, here, you'll you'll understand here. So Ariel Lowen, Patrick Velma, this is the next row. These two should make the podium. There's going to be a row and a

half also. Might not make the podium, I kind of expect neither of them to make the podium, but they absolutely can and they're absolutely capable. But I would not bet them. I don't really care who's on the top of the mountain. Saw that coming. By the time he was done. Dude, thank you for stopping by. Let me screenshot. This and put it on my bulletin board. Well, here I'll post it on Instagram and. She really did screenshot. It hey, thank you. Thank.

You for thank you for coming, Jason. I can't wait until y'all are all wrong. I can't wait for it either and. Then we're going to circle back here. We will circle back right? And then you're going to admit that I'm the best analyst? I'll tell you what, if you, if you podium, Jason, if you podium, I'll admit that you're the best analyst in the whole entire sport. All right, clip that spin. Yep, got it man. All right, see y'all appreciate you having me. I'm doing Jason.

Later. Yeah, so this is where your mountain started making me have to like work on the graphics here, John. I was like what? What is going on here? OK, do you guys understand what I'm with this row so far here though with Valner and Lowen? No what's recap Valner and Lowen. So by the way, felt like this was a mature Jason. Didn't it feel a little bit different? He's mellowed way the hell out. I know I. Think I wanted to say this while he was on.

It's like 2. A lot of people cannot go and touch the dragon like he touched it, get full burnout and then come back and, and and and do well and be able to control themselves. That that's really cool. That either shows that he like is really mentally strong as an athlete or he has a great support system or a combination of, of all of that. So. Yeah, I'm rooting for him. I think if he got 4th place it would be amazing. He's talking shit though, what

Jason's been watching. The I'll be in trouble if he doesn't. I'm because I I will live up to it. I will say that for sure and he deserves it. All right. So Lowen and Velner, these two on any given games, they can they can podium. I am going to say that they're not going to. Are you saying they're more? They're definitely they're they're higher. They're gonna be more high highs than the row below it, but also potentially. Low, low. I don't. I almost don't.

Maybe Velder's hitting more high highs, but no, I would say they're they're just more consistent than the row below it and like the row below it. All of those guys, they're very consistent. Gabby McGowan is the definition of 5th place. What Jon is trying to say is they're definitely taking 4th. I yeah, yeah, basically I'm penciling these people in to be 4th place.

I think their consistency is a is like same consistency, but where these guys are 5th through 7th consistency, Velner and Lowen are third and 4th consistency. Now Velner and Fukowski, they have home runs and they have events they do bad and it doesn't apply for them as much, but the others that that does apply to. But yeah, basically I'm just penciling these guys to be fourth place. Do you do you read into their Lowens and Vilner's semifinals performances at all?

I don't no, not no, no, I thought this before semi finals like Justin, I think higher up Justin, but like Justin is more of a confirmation. We thought Justin would be back. We thought Justin would be in the running to win the games. You know, and like the top five, right? And Justin would be the highest guy on this row. I just, I just put Velner above him. I think Velner's better. Yeah, my question was basically we saw Madero struggle last year at semi finals and it carried

over to the games. Yeah, I don't put a lot of stock into it for Pat unless there's a Max Snatch, but we've snatched the whole entire time and unusually he's good at snatch. I don't know what happened with that was but. How about this one from Clock? Loan has won good games and now she's a Pat Velner. No clock. Ariel Lowen is 4th place. I'm saying Ariel Lowen is her normal and Patrick Veltner is going to be slightly worse than what he's usually does. That's.

What? I'm not slightly worse, just not as as high on the leaderboard, which I don't think. He's worse. No, no, no, no. OK. I think the guys, I think there are three guys who have who are fitter than Patrick. They've they've eclipsed. Him, they passed him. Yes, that is a very well way to put that. You guys think. You have to think if, if Roman probably should have won last year, Jeff, Jeff won. Jeff's the fittest guy in the world.

But Roman would have been right there if not winning, right, if he didn't break his foot. So Velner would have been what, third place, right. Velner would have been third place without Ricky in a CrossFit Games. That would have suited Ricky really, really well. Ricky would have had like three to four ways, 3:00 to 3:00. I knew that was coming. Three or four like Otto wins that we know Ricky would win from just from the past, right? That would put Villainer 4th, I think.

I think this will show itself. 4th. Got it, the next row. All right, what are you laughing for? Just thinking about spin screwing around in camp by trying to get this right. Yeah, just throwing lines everywhere. It was a nice, nice pyramid formation on a mountain. And now it's like here here's a row 2 for. You, This is why, This is why, OK, This is why I had to do it

like this. So these three women I think are all fighting for 3rd place that are ahead of Velner and Lowen because I, Velner and Lowen, you let's just call this that the 4th place row, Lawson, Gazan and Raptus. I think all three of these women are fighting for that third place, that third place spot, putting this line above the Belner low in line. Who is this confusing? I think all three of these women are fighting for 3rd place.

How is that confusing? Because there's another female that's going to get first, making Ariel not get 4th. Or 5th or or. 5th OK, OK, no, no, OK, listen, no. Like 4th place is her highest is the highest she can do OK. There is no world where she gets 3rd place again. That's what I'm saying. Definitely not top. Got it. We're Lawson, Gazan Raptors. Any of these girls can finish third, OK? Got it. Got it next. Before, before we move on, does do you have any concerns about

Emma Lawson? I don't know man. Get the knowledge that you had right. Yeah, yeah, but like she was third place at semi finals. Like she did fine. I mean, Raptors beater she did great call Tyler. Tyler's the only one who called that little bias, but great, great call. But she didn't beat her by that much. Like Lawson was very close to 2nd place.

You know what she did? I think Lawson like breezed through semi finals and I still think I think Emma Lawson is the third fittest woman in the world like right now. But you know, maybe she stops, maybe she doesn't go to the games. I don't think she will. I think she'll be fine. But as far as her fitness goes, this is where she belongs, on the mountain. I agree with where these three are. Next row. These these, these three men, it's. Barely. They barely freaking fit on the mountain.

These three men, these three men, this is your podium. I don't know what order. I think any three of these, I think any combination of these three will be the podium. I been screaming that I think Ricky's going to win the Games, but if every event is inside, that's not good for Ricky.

If we're running in half of them like we most of the time do, that's good for Ricky. But you know, if it's inside, I think that helps Roman. If there's more machines that helps Roman. Jeff is the strongest out of those two. So if it if it goes to more strength and more lifting, then I think it favors Jeff. If it's odd object, I think that probably favors Roman. Ricky's also really good at object, odd object.

So like I don't have a defining I think this guy's going to place here in the top three, but I think those these guys in any order will be your top three. And before the games we will have lot, we will have for sure predictions on. I think this guy will win. This guy will get second. But hopefully we find out some events so I can base something off of that. But I think any games that any through any one of these three guys can win. Who of the list? I was thinking this exact same

thing. Please please please change. The base camp to Whoville. I changed base camp to Whoville. Mederos, Can he break into the podium or is he kind of locked in at 4th? No, I mean, I, I don't think Medeiros is close to these three guys. I think Justin and Bellner are kind of hand in hand in their fitness and I think Fukowski is a shade underneath. But with lucky programming, Fukowski could be above just for events that, you know, hit his home run ability.

But I if you had me do, I would say these guys in our tier, Valner Maderos is next tier and then I would say Fukowski and Dallin or that tier underneath that. Wad Zombie Where's Emily Rolf? These are these are your 15. She she was not at base camp. She probably could have been at base camp. But again, base camp is your top 20 material or home run hitters. I don't think she's going to beat Tia. So I can't say that she's going to hit a home run. She'll be second place in one

event. That's not worthy of base camp. Yeah, next row. Where's Pinero? She's in Brazil getting roided up for her run at the Games. Good for her. Also, going back to the Grinch thing, there's a dump on the backside of the mountain, so that's where we could do Tyler's trash. That's so terrible. You have little homes that like Christophel Greer and then like. Like. Mertens has a rented apartment, unfortunately. Next row. Next row. Alright, and this is this is Laura Horvath.

I think Laura Horvath is all by herself as the second fittest woman in the world. I think if Tia Toomey didn't exist, Laura Horvath would run away with the games. I think Laura Horvath could have the worst strict deficit handstand push up event in the games and still be Emma Lawson and Alex Gazan and Alexis Raptors. I think she could take a zero and still beat those girls. Laura is that good. Unfortunately the fittest woman in ever lives now and she is at the top of the mountain.

Yeah, there's nothing I can say about that. It's unfortunate. Tia's Tia. Tia's still competing. Therefore, Tia's at the top of the mountain. Nobody cares. Retire. Go take care of Willow I. Think we've kind of talked like. Natural Games Mountain. Tia the the spread between Tia and Laura, 100 plus points. I think so. I gotta, yeah, we gotta, I gotta keep a sheet. I'm going to say absolutely. But how much difference is there between Laura and that 4th that 4th throw there? It depends.

It depends if there's a a handstand push up event. Last year was the luckiest Laura Horvath could have ever gotten. There were eight handstand push ups and they were free standing and they were irrelevant to the actual event. I think if there is an actual strict handstand push up workout, it doesn't even have to be strict deficit, just a strict handstand push up workout. That's it where that's the crux

of the workout. Then I think they will be within 100 points of her of Laura. If there is not one like last year, I think they will be 100 points away from Laura. I think Tia will have 200 points on the neck on 3rd place. Does that make sense? Yes. Do you what's the biggest margin that Tia? Is it 200? Is almost 200. No, it's over 200. So Fraser has a 2220, he's got a 220. If you don't count 2020, he's got a He's got a 220 point separation. Tia in 2021. Holy.

Cow would have had the highest one. 431-1435 minus 17 or eleven 79256 points. Yeah, that that's, that's 20/21 correct. So now you have to ask yourself, everything else being equal. And by the way, Tyler, just so, so just so we know who was second place. Laura, that's what I'm saying. So all else being equal, is Laura fitter or is TLS fit? And so does that separation squish. Yeah, I would say both. I would say both. I think Laura fitter. I think Tia is less fit than she was in 2021.

I think 2021 was the most dominating year we have ever seen, if you don't count the COVID games. Yeah. That doesn't count. But no 20/21 was a regular year. I don't think people understand that it was a regular year and she won like 9 events. 20/21 she was so much fitter than everybody it was ridiculous. 20/22 she had some hiccups. It was the first time Baz did the games and like she tripped on her our single unders and didn't make it out of skill medley round.

There were a couple things where she messed up and then she won by a measly whatever she won 100 points, whatever she won by but Tyler 3rd place, third place in that running. But how much? How far away was she away from Laura? About a 80 points. 80 points and that was 20/21. Was there a handstand push up event that year? I couldn't tell you. I can look. There was the wall walk one that wasn't great. Wall Walk Thruster. Wall walk thruster now run. Free standing handstand push

ups. Deadlift free standing handstand push ups. Right? Yeah, stupid one. I liked that one, but it was weird. Yeah. And so like in that one, she was 10th place. She hit the cap for 13 reps, but nobody else could do it either. That one was like, you either had it or you didn't. And she got, she got a little bit lucky on that one too, but she was 80 points from Amy Thor's daughter. I see something similar to this year, but the gap between Tia

and Laura will be much smaller. I would say over 100 points, but like not 200 points. And then Horvath to the next person. If she gets lucky with that handstand push up event, then she'll be over 100 points on those girls. If it's a regular one, it'll be like 50 points. I get I. Probably would side with you on this. I want it, I just want it to happen. I want someone to beat. Tia. It won't, I'm sorry, bet on something else better than

Mavericks tonight. Yeah, it's, I mean, I I think didn't Laura though have two better scores on semi finals than Tia? Event four, she had a world record and then I I want to say event two that Tia was behind her by 5 seconds. So yeah, you're right. Laura beat Tia. Laura can beat Tia. You're absolutely right. Great job, Laura. You beat Tia by 5 by 5 seconds. But her low is going to be way worse than what Tia's is. Let's look at how much Tia beat

Laura in event. 15 minutes. OK, it wasn't 5 minutes, it wasn't 5 minutes, but you get what I'm saying. 20 spots. Well, we can't compare event one. You can with that type of domination. All right. Well, you're telling me Tia's not a better runner than Laura I? Mean no but. Well, Europe was a shorter course than anywhere else, which Tia still beat her right? And like he is going to be, he is going to be top three in any long running event. Laura's 10 to 15.

Yeah, like, like here's the thing, like the events that Laura can beat Tia at. Laura can beat Tia, but they're by it's, it's going to be by like two or three places at the most. Tia, when she wins, Laura's going to be 10th place and there's going to be a couple events where Laura's right there with Tia. But Laura isn't like that in every single event. You go look at the intervals where Emma Lawson made her move

on the rowing. Like that was an event that I thought Laura would have killed the intervals last year in 23. The rowing is what made the difference. Laura is the best rower in the field and Emma Lawson took off from everybody and smoked everybody in the intervals. Where was Laura? She was like 20th place. It was one of her worst events. Like Tia doesn't have those.

Is there any chance I I think that if there's a strict handstand push up workout regular like Maura, Maura could beat Tia in every other event and Tia would still win. If that if in a weird universe, yes. Right. Like because the point spread on that would be so massive. Sure, and that's the issue is that anything that Tia is good at and or that Laura is great at, Tia's right behind her. Whereas anything that Laura, Laura doesn't suck at anything besides handstand push ups, she

doesn't suck at anything. But there's people between her and Tia on those things. I think the better question is if there's a strict deficit handstand push up, because when I say that that means Laura Horvath's last place and I know she has improved but she still cannot do those. She could do, she did two, she could do 2 at row a couple years ago. If there's that, can one of those girls in the 3rd row beat her?

I think that's a better question that Emma Lawson or Alexis and or Alexis Raptors with the perfect run of events. They can beat Laura if there is a devastating handstand push up event. Because just barely. That's zero points. If it happens, just still, just barely. No, I would still pick Laura, but I think I think the better question is could one of those girls end up eclipsing Laura versus talking about Laura in

any circumstance with Tia? Laura doesn't deserve to be in the conversation with Tia. That's the gap. That I don't agree. No, no, it's the truth. You could not agree, but it's the truth. She should not. He's all you better get used to it because it's all anybody's going to be talking about from next. Then they're wrong, and if people think they're not wrong, they are. You don't understand. Tia is so much better than everybody else and I hate it. I don't care about Tia at all.

I don't. I want her to retire because it makes the games boring. I don't know why I didn't want Matt to retire because that's the same thing. And I loved Matt when he was competing, but I don't feel that way with Tia. And there's some people that are going to be like Tia like is is awesome and she is freaking awesome. I won't argue that's just not because she is. But there's like the conversation is stupid to have. I hope there's a strict deposit.

Somebody who always wins, you're just like, OK, it's not fun to play anymore. No, it's not like, and I hope like it's like Tyler, it's like if every single day we went and had a bench press contest. Is that fun to watch? Are people going to watch and be interested in it? No. No, but like now say, but if there was a strict deficit handstand push up workout and Alexis Raptors won and then Alexis wrapped and there was like a very light squatting here.

There wasn't a big squatting workout that she, you know, wouldn't do great at. And Alexis Raptors was five points away from Laura going into the last event. You're telling me that's not going to be exciting? For the first time ever, I'm going to be rooting for training think tank and we're going to be on the same team. We're going to be on the same team. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy?

You wouldn't root for that. No, and that well, what you're making me think about is what are the real stories And all of a sudden, if you do take Tia out of the field, so we should, you know, it's like just banish her from the no one, pay attention to her. It's great if she wins, that's cool. Just pretend 2nd place is first place. Yeah, dude, just put Tia in our own heat. Dude, it's like that. I it's like the 2017 Warriors, like there's no point in even

doing the season they've. Written with the boys like you've now graduated to the boys I. Don't think that would work very well. I don't. I don't think she gets last place. No, she doesn't get last. Does she make all the cuts? Do you think she can make top 20? I mean, I think that would be a a really great. Here's the thing, you say no, you say no spin. She still wins the run, she still wins the swim. She still wins all of those events. Anything waits last place,

right? But gymnastics, like she's better than 95% of the men and anything endurance and anything gymnastics. Yeah, I, I just, and I think we're going to get into it next week on looking at some events, but. You think they'll release next week? No, I'm saying like we'll talk about it next week on some of our thoughts on events, but you look at you look at semifinals, you look at semifinals like it was not gymnastics heavy. No, I think. The games might be. Right.

So like what does the games look like? But I don't, I also don't think it's going to be like they did last year where there's a super gymnastics heavy event, right? Like they threw a lot of the gymnastics. Oh, I think it'll be more like volume. I rather. Than and and it'll be paired with more stuff versus hey here's this one big event where you're going to do handstand walking and pullovers like. It's not just gymnastics. Right.

Yeah, like it's going to be paired with a barbell or paired with something else, right. More often than not, which would not lend to Tia's favor. Yeah, but you just got to do good in three events. Ghee does it every year. Yeah, before we move on. Hold on, hold on, Brian. Brian. So 279 points. Do you think Tia's capable of doing that 'cause I think she still wins two events beating. Matt's Matt's distance. No, just 270. Nine points.

So in the 2024 games, In the 2024 games, do you think if he was against the men? I think she still wins two events, whatever endurance events they are. I definitely think she wins the swim. Against the guys you think she wins. She was the best swimmer and she was the best runner against all of the guys except for Kowski. So that many points would put her how many points? 279 that would put her 29th place, yeah. Ahead of Jason Hopper. Ahead of Jason. I think she can do that.

You don't think she can do that? It depends on what the OK. Cross country 5K, she's got 100 points right there. I think, well, no, I don't think, I don't think she beats Adler or Roman. I think she does 5K in a straight I I. 100% think she does. But not sure. I don't know if there's going to be two. I don't think there's going to be two events like that. I don't think there's going to be a separate run and a separate swim. But like now that we're inverted medley, inverted medley, I think

she does fine there. I think she does better than a lot of the guys. Not not like crazy, but that's just gymnastics. And she probably would have been close to winning it on the women's side, right, Right. So let's just let's just call her like, let's just call her like 15th place in that workout. And then all the rest of these workouts, I think she gets last place because there is lifting Helena. Helena, she has to do a £50 dumbbell snatch. I think she still does that

unbroken. I think she runs faster than most of them in a range of motion is shorter than most. Of them she beats Jake Douglas and Bronislaw for. Sure I know. I dude I think she gets top ten in Helena with a £50 dumbbell. I think she can get top ten in Helena. It's £50. It's not like it's £70 like that's what she does anyway. Cross country, 5K, top five intervals, no shot. Let me total no shot. Muscle up logs, probably no shot. Yeah, that's it. So she got three events, I think.

I think she can get 279 with for sure. Boy, there was a lot of like lifting and a lot of events. I thought there was more. All the gymnastics was just getting pressed and they're basically 2 for the most part. All right, we got to move on. I'm sorry. Yeah, we went on a tangent there. I I apologize. You're good, you're good. So there is the final Games mountain of the 2024 CrossFit game season. We're just going to keep moving on to sorry viewers. I'm sorry viewers.

Next time we'll do some extra comments. Vanilla ghetto. You had your shot. Give us a better comment, OK? Be more succinct, maybe a little bit more brief. You read that long comment, nobody listened, and then we never came back to it. Exactly, exactly. It was. It was unique. Go back to last weeks and go read it if you care. How many y'all's y'all's answers on these? All right, two so mid season awards. And Tyler should go first on all of these. I should definitely not we're.

Going to see how unprepared Tyler is. Why do you? Not do it. No I, I know 'cause I have a friggin job but also I watched all the semi finals so I I think I'll be fine. This isn't just semi finals, this is this is the throughout the entire This is January through. Yeah, semi finals matter to me and that's it. Oh I was definitely going off of semi finals. So it's semi finals I. Thought this was about superlatives for this. It was mid season.

OK, I'll if I can come up with some off the top of my head, I'll change my hands, Yeah. I think most are, but in case, all right, the best performance in a single event, Tyler. This is Olivia Easy. Olivia Snatch. Yeah. Yeah, I think Olivia snatch workout is the best of performance you can say. You can say Colton's burpees, you could say Taylor versus Dallin, It does. It's nowhere close in relevance to what Olivia did in that snatch workout.

The only. Thing I think it is actually better than Frazier's friendly friend. That's the only thing that it's in it that it can be talked about with the like how dominant that performance was. Friendly friend's the only thing comparable, nothing else. There is no event in CrossFit history where somebody dominated the rest of the field as that event right there, that Olivia Snatch event. Yeah, that was that was my pick. Yeah, I I still can't remember my reminder out of my sub four.

You can't make it. It's it's. It will never I I still stand by. It will never be replicated. It's crazy the. Best one, somebody can do it again. They said that about the four. They said that. They said that about so many things. Tyler, like Usain Bolt broke 97 and then like 18 guys did it immediately after. Not 18 but like Five guys did it after. No one was in her stratosphere on that event. You're right. Yeah, the best overall competition performance.

I sold on this. I said to you, to me during the semi finals, just because that is the best performance. She won five of the six events. The one she didn't win, she was third, right third or second. Like if you want to take like how many points somebody won in the whole competition percentage wise, it probably is the record for that. And so I'd, I, you could say other people, I wouldn't be mad at it, but I put to you. I'll go with Yona for the open

and quarterfinals, dude. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Tyler. Tyler. It's it's take everything. Uh huh. He the he was sick or something at semifinals. I think we would have saw something not equally as impressive, but like you add that together with those two, I still think it's super impressive. It is. Impressive he's the only one to do it right. Yeah. And nothing, nothing is as impressive when I look at semifinals.

Nothing about those were as impressive as as those two performances to me. And it's back-to-back. So I'm, I'm standing by that. So this one I also went outside of semifinals. I actually was most impressed by Jason Hopper at quarterfinals. On Taylor versus the World. Taylor versus the world. I, I, I like that answer too. Nobody picked him to win. I'm pretty sure we all picked him to be last we saw these events and we're like, they're

not good for him. Especially after he was the last place in the clean and jerk workout. No, it was very, very impressive. Yeah. That was just, I think it showed that he's a different athlete this year versus what was last year. And and gave him gave, gave me the the thought that we can put Jason back up there on the mountain or in our rankings versus what we saw previously. Like for him to do as well as he did on the muscle up workout like, yeah. So that's where I went with that

one. The biggest surprise of the season so far? You could go negative with this too, yeah. So I'll go. I'll go first. It has nothing to do with the actual competition. It was actually what we talked about earlier about Emma Lawson that she almost withdrew that. Was your biggest surprise. Biggest surprise? Yeah. Mine was Leahy. He wasn't going to the games, period, even if he had not hurt himself. I disagree. I disagree so hard. He was, he was, he was in 12th

place. He was in 12th place with that. He looked so shitty. And he was about to win an event looking. He was not going to last. He was not going to hold on. He looked shitty the first day and even shittier the 2nd. Day he did bad in the first event, the second day he got to 12th place he looked shitty dude. You should have seen him on the fucking field man. He looked bad. He did not look like he was going to hold up. He looked shitty. He's dude.

I am Tudor Magda on this. He's not going to the games ever. Ever. I was so pissed off. I didn't talk to Hiller about it, but I was pissed because I believed it was all hype from Hiller and I was like, I bought into this dude because of you. He's never going to the games. Respectfully, like and look, he's not what Hiller thinks he is. But respectfully, I think we want I, I think, I think Leahy. I think. And listen, he's like, we can all agree he's not as good as Hatfield.

We know this. But I do think he's a Games athlete. I think he's a top 20 Games athlete. The guy can do things that other people can't and like like athletically. And I think he would have made the Games. I do. He might have looked really, really bad, but he was on his way back. He had events that weren't very conditioning and I think he would have, I think he would have made the Games. I'm batting 1000 on my picks to not go to the games. I'm just saying. He's not, he's not, he's not

wrong. The Tony tone. Why did Emma almost withdraw? Go look at my latest post. I did a clip of her coach Josh Wooley talking about it and then there's a full recap of semi finals on the Mammoth Training Methods YouTube page, so go check that out. I didn't say mine. Yeah, John. My biggest surprise is I I have like an event surprise and a person surprise was Fuliano's five O 1 on.

The snatch. On the snatch ladder, yeah, I think as far as something we did not expect from anybody other than Danielle Brandon sucking it up on the handstand walk event. Like I don't think anybody, anybody thought Fuliano could do that on the snatch ladder to be five O 1 to beat Laura in that what I think the third fastest time in the world. I'm going to have to explain what I mean by this. People still don't get it. I I think I'm in people camp there because I don't. Get it either.

But I think Fulliano's five O one was the most surprising event that we did not expect. And then as a person, I'm going to say Chris Ibarra, like we after the first event, we're like, OK, that's good for that guy. Like, yeah, he did good in the event. And then after day two, OK, sticking around, he's gonna, you know, I wonder when he's gonna fall off. And then he, the guy just never did. And it wasn't like he hit home runs.

It wasn't like, oh, he's just really good at running or he's just really good at he's really strong. He was just 7th place the whole time with everything, even in the snatch ladder, which is supposed to be what he was bad at like and his Max, you know, his maxes are weaker than like of the strong guys. But I was just very impressed with that and that was my biggest surprise.

Yeah, when I saw Barack and saw in, because I was listening to it as I was driving to Yellowstone and I was like, oh, there's a guy. Well, he'll be the one on the men's side. Who falls out? You look, you talk about him on Friday and then on Sunday it's going to be like, look, he's in 16th. Cool. That's cute. Yeah, he's killing it. It was crazy. I was like, this guy can't hold out. And then it just kept going. I was like, oh. Oh, and it was very Justin Medaris like.

Like he just was always 7th. Like I just never did worse than that. He had all top 10s except for one event. I think that was event 4 so. Not the best rower. No biggest disappointment I picked Kowski I. I mean, I know you can go sentimental and pick Colton or Taylor, but I think Kowski is a bigger disappointment than either one of those guys. I think Kowski not making the games is the craziest. Didn't make the games out of everybody else.

And you you could roll with this any sentimental one. You can roll with Olivia if you want to, but Kowski is a literally top ten, fittest guy in the world, top ten games athlete and he didn't make it for whatever reason, whether he's sick or hurt or whatever, I don't care, but he didn't make it. So that's the biggest appointment, this appointment, Tyler. Colton yeah, I I went with a sentimental pick.

Colton, Like I looked at it more of what am I most disappointed and not seen And that was him not making the games. Yeah, it it sucked. And like, he just, it's like sometimes you just grab onto the rings and you get a bad kilter going and you start swinging back. He had all that, like everything that could go wrong in that event did. And yeah, you can say like, well, you know, he's the guy at the helm. He should be able to control it. But it was just like sometimes

you just get hit and. Taylor said the same thing happened to him, too. Yeah. All right, here we go. Before I read this, that's the Thunderbolt, baby, let's go. That's right, the unknown cacao. I can't comprehend the contempt for Tia's dominance. It honestly blows my mind that so many people fail to appreciate the beauty of true dominance. I'll take undisputed greatness over a competitive field of also Rans any day. I don't get the also rans, can you explain that? Also ran in the race.

Yeah, just like everybody else. Oh, I got, I got like. Would you rather have parity across but not a great? I have AI have a response for the unknown. Unless Tyler, you want to go first. Well, the only thing I wanted to say is the reason we love Michael Jordan is because he had to battle so much. Like it was almost always out for them. Like they I. Disagree, they were always the favorite. They were always the favorite, but they always, there was always moments where it's like

they might lose it right here. Dude, they were supposed to win every single year. They there was some. OK, fine. I know that was a bad analogy. It's awesome. No, it wasn't. You just don't get it. Go ahead. I'm sorry that I ruined that for you then. I don't think that was a good. But the I, the unknown, whoever you are, I did appreciate it with Matt Fraser. I thought it was beautiful. I wanted to see Matt's dominance. I don't know why I don't feel the same way with Tia, but I don't.

It maybe I'm sexist. Isn't there like a like you want to see the greatness, but then as they get so great, you want to see like, I think the tide starts to turn and it's like, I just want to see somebody overthrow that person, right? Like it's like that one person versus a field. It's Tiger versus. I liked it with with Tiger, but there's a lot of people that don't, right? Like there's a lot of people that want to after Tiger became so dominant, it's like, OK, it's cool.

I didn't. I want to see somebody over take him down on the 72nd hole, right? Yeah, yeah. Is it it's her greatness is still appreciated. It's not that that's not appreciated. It's just like we need some that it's just, it's not fun watching somebody went over and over again like it's, it's just boring. And I, I like, and maybe this is what, maybe this is what you're getting at, Tyler. I, I, I think like what y'all are saying, like you just happened to fall on one of the

sides. You either love it or you don't love it because I'm thinking of every dynasty or every like dominating force. And there are some I was all about and then there were some that I could not. I wanted them to lose. I didn't want the Patriots to win. I hated the Patriots dynasty. I hated the Warriors dynasty, mostly because I was a LeBron fan. But I love Tiger and I love Matt Fraser and I don't care for Tia, like you know what I mean?

I just like, I think you're just going to fall on one sided or not. And I don't know which what determines what side you fall on, but. And I also think like we can appreciate Tia's ability, but I like going down to the wire on Sunday, like the men's field was last year, even the women's field to some extent, getting to that final event where it's all on the line. Like that's about as exciting as it gets.

Like Rogue Invitational two years ago, right with with Velner and how he gave it up on the last 27th clean and jerk like that was exciting. If Velner was up 300 points and he does that and he wins, like, OK, right. Like there's something about the excitement of watching that and we can appreciate Tia the first three days, but we want to see a battle at least that's. What I want to see, I think that's why people love Rich so much, because Rich had a little

bit of both. Like he was dominant one every year, but not not so dominant that you just knew he was going to win. Like there was always hope. Khalipa was in first place for a couple days like. That's what Tia needs to do to to keep interest is just let him win for a couple and like keep him in the hunt. And then just last day, OK, I'm a hit homers now. This grinds my gears Jeff. OK I am like the one of the most #1 proponent for Australians and all of analysts land.

I've been screaming Ricky Garrard when everybody hates him. Get out of here Jeff. I'm not a big TF fan. T is American now anyway, she's North America East. So the unknown. Thank you. That's right. There you go, the next category. Best training camp so far I. Think it's got to be mayhem? No, no, definitely not. You don't think so? No, I mean it's like underdogs. If you just throw all the like, if you have all the bodies, it just seems weird like they they're winning the volume game.

They. Always won the volume game, but like, I don't like when Brute had five, five or five go to the games. I thought they were man. A lot of their five were top ten. Who? Who is it then? Who is it then, Brian? It's underdogs. Underdog. I mean, Gracie won. They basically they basically send Australia through the games. Yeah, yeah. They have they have 7 athletes going to the games. And their camp's not huge. You got you got Ricky Gracie. Kyra. He is a bad girl.

That's right. You got Alex Bailey, Luka Jukic is with her, Kyra and Ivan Kukartsev. 7 underdog athletes are going. Yeah, yeah, no, you're probably right. But like, I think like 9 at the top 15 guys were from Mayhem in North America East alone. That's 'cause they sent like 80 people there. Again, absolutely right the. Chinese method. Here's the Austin. Austin Hatfield is with Mayhem, OK? So you're now the Mayhem train. I don't count him as the Mayhem athlete.

He's not been there long enough yet. I. You know, that's like saying that Luca, you can't count Luca on underdogs. You just did. That's what that I mean. That's what Tyler's saying. I'm counting. Just. No, I'm with you, Tyler. Austin Hatfield's team, West Virginia. That's it. I mean HWPO got Velner so. I will never call Velner an HWPO athlete. Velner is Canadian. That's a weird one. Velner's Team Canada. I will never call him an HWPO athlete. I would.

Why did they have they bought Velder? Because everybody else left. It's like the Yankees, they just buy them out. And they keep recycling people. How many people can we burn out a year? Something like that. Best Newcomer Award. Underdogs had a pretty great camp. You're not wrong, Ryan, but I'm I'm usually always I'm I'm usually always like the like, you know, I'm always big on underdogs. So I just thought that was without saying but. Go ahead.

Do they have to be a rookie? No, it's a newcomer, your choice. We'll see how bad of your choice is, but best newcomer? It was not called best Rookie of the Year. Travis Mayer. The oldest guy in the field. Now I wanted to go with Lydia. Like I know she's technically not new. She's been in semifinals before. I I love that pic. But she just, she grew so much this year. And so yeah, Lydia Fish is my pick and and like, she just

outdid herself. And I think she proved that her her career coming forward is going to be great as long as she can stay away from whatever monsters is getting Emma and everybody else. How? How old is she? 19 or 20? Oh, by the time she makes the game, she's over the She could drink, she's fine. That's the age cut off. That's when the that's when, yeah, you know, for mental, for mental battles, not a problem. That's 21. She's with Adam anyway, so I think she'll be fine.

Well we thought Emma boss and well picture of mental. No, she's with parent. But either way, it's it the saw it safe pick. John. I I wouldn't. Can I speak on Lydia for a minute? Yeah, I I 100% agree with Lydia. I think it's an awesome pick. I think if Lydia gets 30 lbs stronger on everything like her the big the big like static lifts, 15 lbs stronger on the Olympic lifts, I think she could

be top ten in the games. I think because if you look at her placements, her just being a little bit stronger puts her like 10 spots. More like she struggled with the front squat, she struggled with the lunges. She rowing stronger is going to help her legs like it's just strength for her. She has all the skills. She's aerobic and she's a gymnastics freak. I think Lydia Fish is going to be one of the next upper like like games perennial athletes that we see their name every

single year. I think she's the next one. Like she's. The next Haley Adams. No, 'cause she's not as a she's, I don't think I'm not going to say that you well. You I OK, well, what I'm saying? Is. It fittest woman, let me let me qualify what I'm saying. Maybe not better. I don't think she'll be top for a while, but like across the board, she won't have huge holes like Haley Will did. Well, Haley's huge holes are lifting. Right, it's the same as Lydia. Well, I know, but I think, I

think Lydia makes up for that. I don't think that it hangs on for her like it did with Haley. Do you think Lydia's ability to improve her lifting will be better than Haley? Because I think that's something that we could very much see. Like Haley. Haley's body does not want to get strong. It doesn't. It's like it's so hard for Haley. To get Lydia moves so much better than Haley, her potential

to get stronger is there. I don't know if she'll ever be as fit as Haley, but I do think she's the next. She's the next big name that we see every single year. Exactly how I feel about Hatfield, not as strongly because I think Hatfield could his potential higher yes, I I believe that, but Lydia's going to be she's potential top ten.

I really like it and when you can see that from this far out, like didn't even make the games right and you think that it's pretty exciting, especially if it happens like you're seeing it with Hatfield, it happening step by step. Same thing's going to happen with Lydia, at least I believe. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that about Lydia Fish too. So top ten perennial top ten athlete. She's Haley Adams. Got it. Haley Adams. Is top five.

Best newcomer, John. I, I mean, I'm, I'm going to roll with my roll with my guy Austin Hatfield. Austin, yeah. That was, that was. It's it's easy to say Jack Rosemo, I think because I think he had the best showing him and Hattie Cano, but I think Hattie Cano's a bit of a one hit wonder. I don't think we're going to see your name again. No offense, Hattie. How dare you. She's coming on sevens. I, I know and she's awesome.

And I, I called her to make it. Nobody else called her to make it. Patrick Clark. Not Patrick Clark. Clydesdale did. Clydesdale did. But he he says everybody. That's 'cause she was on her show for. He says Sax is going to win the game, so it's hard to take that seriously. But I, Austin Hadfield's my best newcomer and I say best newcomer because I think he will do the best in the games of the new of the rookies. That's what I was going off of. That's fair.

I love Tyler's answer. I think Tyler had the best answer to this, but I. My my best newcomer is Ibarra. Yeah. I think he has a very good. I think he's in the running for rookie of the Year this year. Is he? Where's he from? He's Missouri, I think. He's training with Heppner. Stephen Tackett, Kansas here. Stephen Tackett's his coach. He's training with HEP. I thought he had something to do with no, that was a different guy. Never mind, never mind. Best Veteran award Tyler.

I'm interested to see how y'all do. You cannot take Travis Mayor. I won't. He barely made the games. I won't. He had to be on Tyler Cristobal, called by Tyler Destruction to make the games. You wanted it. You wanted it. Back you were rooted for that I I it's the joke. It's the joke I wanted, but I won't do that Come come back to me because I'm I'm second guessing myself now I like my pick. I like my pick, but I want to think.

About it for a second, believe. It No, no, no, no, go ahead all. Right. Don't believe in it. I have, I have, I have, I have Lazar Dukich. You know, we were really, really let down by Koski. I feel like Lazar goes under the radar sometimes. And I think the dude just did what he was supposed to do and he kind of won pretty easily without ever having a doubt that

he was going to win. And as far as like best veteran, that's who I think that's what I think of veteran doing what you have to do or what you normally do to make the games. And I think Lazar did what he should have done, but executed to AT. I'm gonna say Lazar. I'm gonna go with someone who's very resilient and it's come back several times. I'm gonna go with Brooke Wells. I know we like to joke around that she's, you know, resilient, whatever, but three months ago? He's cold as ice.

Man, we. There are quite a few people saying she wasn't going to make it. We we talked about it on this show several times, like can she even qualify with her whatever shoulder injury torn labrum like she's gone back and forth with injuries and she came out and it I mean she was able to heal that thing and get back onto it and

she's going back to the games. So I mean, that's, you know, well, you want to joke about it like that She is a veteran that was able to get back and do what she needed to do to be in a position to qualify. So. To me, when you say veteran like that, that that speaks a lot to an attitude, I think. I I I feel that way too. And so I I am going with my original pick. Travis Mayor. No, Luke Parker, even though he's only been to the games one more time, it was to me.

I think he did Boys games three years minimum to be able to I, I don't. He's 30, dude. He's not young. He's a veteran in age, but that's and he. Looks like he just, he never looked like he wasn't going on that last event like even like before they went like he was like he looked right. And it was a veteran move from like to just go up to the batter's box in the last one and be like, I know I've got it. And he he did what he had to do. And I think that was a veteran

move. I think he blew up and got lucky. He didn't. He was so that he could could get the cross before he had a wasted too much time. Maybe it's a bit of a heart pick, but I don't know. I like Luke, so I'm going with Luke better. Remove. I like Luke. I mean, I don't like him for this category. It's just hard, like, do I go with friggin, you know, Adler P1? It's I don't want to go with the top guys. Travis Mayer would have been a better pick. I know, but I didn't want to do the joke.

Most shocking moment? You want to go first, or you want to? Go first. Oh I I can we not pick a person? Yeah. I said moment. Yeah, Do you? I'm, I'm going to say Tutor's Event 6. And the reason why I'm saying that is because it's it's shocking moment, right, Phoebe? You could say Colton's touch and go, but I knew that Colton could do that. I didn't know. I didn't know he would do that in the in the thing. Yeah, I didn't know he would do it, but I knew he could. He had it in him.

It was still freaking awesome. Probably the best moment, but shocking moment. Dude Tudor did that event in a heat 3 and world record blew everybody out of the water and nobody saw it coming. And it was. So like not stop talking about. That it was so unexpected and like he did that and I just like didn't know what to say. I was like, oh, what the Frick was it like what just happened? What just happened? Like and then and what's funny

is he had to do that. He had to be clutched and everybody thought he was out of it, myself included. And I mean, he was a couple guys melting down from making it, you know, And that was the most shocking, like event. I just did not. I didn't know what happened when he did that. Olivia. Olivia had her event but I already picked Olivia so I couldn't pick her. We knew Olivia was going to win, it was just more about the time that she finished.

I didn't know she had that. I was rocking with Kelsey killed, but you know, it's OK. Olivia, that was a Homer pick, Tyler. Second fastest time in the whole world. OK, I'm sorry that it was a Homer pick. I didn't know that we have freaking Goliath in the snatch ladder against her. I'm that. That's not a poor pick by me. No, it is mine. Should have been. It also should have been the most disappointing because I was

truly bummed out about this. Most shocking was that the athletes got the run around the berm cancelled. That was I, I walked around for like an hour being like, are you, are you serious? And I, I was like, I was just super freaking bummed. Like, and for the people that I knew wanted to do that and we'll never get to go do that again. Steven. Snatch letter. If you if you make another comment like that, Steven, I

will block you, OK? And I don't even know how to do it. I'm going to have to text Brian to tell me how to do it. I'm not even sure how to do it. But then and then I'm going to have to YouTube how to do it and I'm going to block you as soon as I find out. Don't don't this don't put us with these retarded comments like this Steven, come on, you're better than that. All right, go ahead, go ahead. Tyler. The berm run was canceled. We're. All just the berm run being canceled.

I, I was shocked that that it happened, that that the athletes made it happen and then that people actually made it come into fruition. It was just like, it was huge. Bummer, I just wish they could have figured out a better route that would not have been 3/4 of a mile each time. That would be a. That'll be a big difference in the the actual workout. I understand that, but they were all competing against each other and it's so historic. I It's just friggin. Danny and Annika would be

awkward. Still be out there running right now. That's fine, they weren't going to the games anyway. Danny. Danny did go to the game. Oh yeah, Danny did. Monica confused me, 'cause she was in the East and I was like, Annika didn't even run that. My most shocking moment kept Danny out. Yeah, the most shocking moment probably could put this as biggest disappointment, but Yolo follows Event 6 meltdown. Wait time out though.

Time out. Would you have been disappointed if it didn't look like she was going like if it if if the hype hadn't been real? She was the only girl that didn't finish the event. That was the biggest. That was the biggest explosion we have ever seen from a woman from from a person from a person that is in position to win to make the games. That's the biggest explosion

we've ever seen. Tyler Cristo fell only dreams of exploding as bad as Yolo Polo exploded and I I and if she if she big fan of the show Erica Polo is I'm sorry but that is what happened. Yeah, that was it looked like she hadn't pulled it off perfectly. Like paste it right. She knew what she was doing. And then? You and you and Emma need to just do lunges and talk about your feelings. Like like do a 10 minute lunge feeling talk every single day.

You know what's surprising about that to me? Get some fat grips. When we get some fat grips, yeah. When we. Got a lot of them go. Ahead, who interviewed boss? I think it was Pedro interviewed Boss and they talked about that event and he he talked about this with me that he was like, isn't it wild how everybody's like, it's the last length and everybody's failing And I'm like, you didn't plan that. Like you just got lucky and this wild shit happened.

Man, this is working out really well, I thought. I thought everybody was just going to launch into the way. Yeah, you think about it like we everybody was asking like, what kind of grip is it going to be? I think if they put it on their shoulders they would have actually done. Better, better, they wouldn't fail the lines for sure. They might have just sat there, but like the grip is what was leaving, right? Yeah, no, I think it worked out perfectly for Boss. And the last one, the most

improved award. I'll start. I'm going with the Abigail Doughnut. Yeah, dude. I mean, she looks really, really, really good. She finished 26th at the Games last year, wins North America West semi final, beats Alex, beats Ariel. I think she is poised to to win the most, most improved at this year's games. Oh, that's interesting to consider. I think it's early to call it, but I think she is the one that has the best possibility of doing that. Of most improved. I know who I'm going with.

Who got drunk? Tyler. Amy Kringle, the I don't think anybody picked her to actually qualify this year. Yeah, not a. That's a great pick, Tyler. Yeah, not a lot, not not in the analysts. I picked her and it was really like me just being hopeful. She she probably a good pick for best veteran honestly. She's she's been to semifinals before. Right. So. I consider her veteran as like games. Games. As as as we've specified with Luke Parker. Like. Dude, I Amy Kringle's a great

pick. I I have, I have Jack Rosenma, basically what Amy Kringle did, but North America East. Yeah, yeah. And I, I mean, I honestly think Amy Kringle's a better pick than Jack Rosenma, but Jack Rosenma was a routine semi finals athlete that has, you know, got got his priorities different. I mean, similar to what Hopper sounds like he's doing now. And dude freaking balled out. I, I don't, I didn't see that from Jack Rosima. Like I could see him making it as one of the last guys in, but

he's Tyler Cristobal territory. He's Jake Berman territory. That's yeah, but you know what I mean? Like like fringe fringe games, semi finals athlete, more semi finals than games. Right? Like that's what Jack Rosema is. And Tyler, you're not the only one that picked Miss Kringle. I don't think you felt. Better, though. There's no way you felt good about the pick going in with what we knew. There's no way you felt good about that pick. And so, yeah, my picks for Jack Rosema.

I thought I had her amazing. Sorry. You're good. You're good. Go ahead. I had her barely qualifying. Like that's how I was like. That's what I had with Haddie Canyon, though I had Caddie Canyon was the last spot. And then? She ended up being like first place to the last event. I I'm sitting here being like I told y'all, I told y'all, I had her. I had her barely making. It and I'm screaming. In heavens, I knew, and nobody else did.

And it was funny because like, yeah, I was just as surprised. Everybody else I knew, I knew nothing other than other than she was beating Kelly Baker down a month ago. Like that's all that I knew. And and and this was so punishment. All right, those are the mid season awards. Time out, I freaking told you. Yeah, any higher than that, you know, it was a a Homer pick. All right, it is time to wrap the show up quickly with some blind rankings. All right, here we go.

We didn't talk about teams. About what? Teams. Teams who? Who? I don't have it on my list, sorry. I think the Chico, the Chico made it. That's all I. Think Rich made it? Yeah, I'm sure may have been Invictus for sending half the teams. This week's blind rankings. Brought to you by Mantasleep code spin@mantasleep.com. Get 10% off the best sleep mask out there today. Tonight we are going to go with going long, the best long events at the CrossFit Games.

All right, I think I I have an. Long event. I have an obvious number one, but we'll see if we agree. Hold on real quick. Do you think spin next week? I forgot what we were doing next week. Can we make a Tyler's trash section and like that's? Up to Tyler's work schedule. Tyler, would you be down like pick like the top 10? I'm always down. I I got my, I got the my trash. I, I know Christa Fell's probably #1 but like, I would love just to see the list, you

know what I mean? It would be fun to talk you'd. Have to get the context 'cause it's like to me. That's on you. That's on you. It's. Just your game's mountain. You're the one who tells us the context, and then we. Saw you, saw John's you got. To back it up, you got to back up what what happens and then will will me and Spin will question you on it. I'm so down for Tyler's trash man. So Tyler's trash is usually who everybody thinks is going to do well, and I'm like, no, yeah, so

I can do that. Dude, I'm so down. You're going to piss off so many people. So much fun. Here we go, the best long events at the CrossFit Games First event, the Capital. This is my number one. Oh. I just I like it the best. I think about the running workout where with Brent and Christy Ermo. That was the run, swim, run in 2017. I wasn't. That's not very exciting. Except they're at, you know what I mean.

I I would rather go the 7K run in 20. 16 I was going to say probably the seven K OK, I I just don't want to bias it because it it's recent. Can I tell you what I mean? Yeah. Can I tell you why, though? Like, I feel like it's number one. And then if you accept it, we'll put it there. If you don't accept it, we'll put it at two. OK. Is that fair? Yeah. So there's going to be a lot of long events, right? There's exciting ones. This one was innovative, like the burden run, bird runs up

there, high up there. Any bird run should be considered for #1 consideration. But here's the thing. Like Khalipa ran away with the burden run this. What the race? Yeah, he did. Rich got stuck on the sled like he he was in the lead. From that because the the unknown user or anonymous Garrett Fisher was winning till till the pig. Oh, he was. They, they, they ran 2 miles and he got to the pig and he lost immediately. When he got to the pig, they had the pig he lost.

It 4 minutes earlier sled. Push and Khalipa was in the lead the whole freaking time. Garrett Fisher. Basically. Jacob Anderson did. Do you remember Jacob Anderson in the first mark? Like he went close to winning. He got to that pig and it was the end of his world. Get out of here. Anyway, the capital. Murph counts as a long one. Yeah, Murph counts as a long one, dude, There's a lot of good ones. There's a lot of good ones. But my point for this. Reason.

The reason that was boring that this is the reason why I like this one. The race between Roman and Ricky was amazing for first place and everybody thought Roman was going to run away with it. Roman's freaking odd object king. He looks like Shrek for goodness sake. And Ricky like had that dog in him to win and climb up those steps. And then you had Haley and Lazar dying on the steps. They couldn't get that bag up to save their life.

They had three steps to get that bag up and 15 people passed them like, and just the destruction that it brought upon people. I just I and then in like, I could care less with for Foo Soleil. But if you want to bring the community in it with Foo Soleil, you got that moment too. I, I, I I don't care at all. But I do like that there was not a time cap for it, right? You had to finish it. And then Travis Mayer from heat one looking amazing.

Yeah, look at Travis Mayer. You just convinced them, right? There I had a lot of feelings with the capital and you don't get that with long events that are very cool long events. But Khalifa was wouldn't that the whole time? And the burden run was like I was one of my favourites too. The capital reminds me of being downtown down there and I just realized I'll probably never have that pizza at that place in the middle of town ever again. Oh dude, that pizza was so good.

I know what you're talking about. It's like it's like some random name to like like Perry's or something like that. Like dude, that pizza was so good. You're so. Ravioli. They had ravioli's on their pizza man. I'll figure it out. I'll. Figure it out. I think I'll go one, I'll go one. Thank you. All right, here we go. Next one, the burden. Run the burden. Run. It's probably my #2 but I know we're kind of backing our way into a corner.

I want to put it at 3 just in case, but is there anything better than the burden run? Like dude I I was glued to the TV that year. Glue this is. Just so creative. Yeah, I like, I would love to do that event like personally. Me too, Me too. And the capital? I would love to do the capital dude OK at Atlanta. No, I don't give a shit about that. Work Ian's Pizza. Greg Ghost has it. Guys, if you're ever in Madison, WI, go eat it. Ian's pizza is, is some of the

best pizza in the world. It is crazy. All right, thank you, Greg Ghost. You're obviously from Wisconsin. Thanks. Will Will Branstetter is cleaning it, doing some vacuuming and heard Johnny and Young yelling. So back to the show. I'll be, I'll be honest with you guys, I was really sleepy. I didn't get my nap this afternoon. So I took a caffeine pill like right before the show. And then that's why I like an hour into it started kicking and I started talking a lot.

It's I took, I took a caffeine pill and that's, that's that's why, that's why. Where you where you guys, where you guys put in the burden? Run. I can't think of anything other other than two. Yeah, I like it as two as well. I know we got to move so. Dude, no, you're good. Next one, the marathon row. 5. I would say. Dude, I could I. Miss OK, fair enough. I think the full the the half marathon was more iconic because it was the first time we ever

saw anything like that. So I think 5. I would agree with John 5. I think the 2K. Is there anything boring? Is it all about? In ocean swim, I'm like, I think Pendleton's more exciting than the marathon row and Pendleton took forever. Yeah, I like. I like. The 40 minute bike ride, that's pretty boring, but you're still seeing people pass people this they're you're literally watching. They're sitting in A room.

And then, like, the big payoff is just some big dude that's not going to do anything else wins and it's some other big dude. And then Lucas Hogberg. I know, I know y'all's names. OK, You can hell big. You're fine. You're screaming at the. Lucas Eslinger won the half. Lucas Eslinger No. Lucas Eslinger 1 And then how big was second? Lucas Hogberg was third. Matt Fraser was like 11th and he was real pissed off. He's like, what the freak are we doing here, Dave?

Can you imagine how bad your hip flexors have to hurt on a full? I've done the half. I would think your. Your butt like your butt and your back. Yeah. Yeah. All right, here we go, 333. Oh. 3333 for the three. That's fine. I'm, I'm with you. It's pretty. Rich Walk. I remember being at the gym. I was lifting. I was squatting with metal plates because I was like. This is a million times as one as one does. Yeah, and because they were clanging and my buddy Ben goes,

Tyler, can you shut the fuck up? And I and so I turned around and Rich starts walking and I went, Oh my God. And then everybody else in the gym turned to the TV and everybody just stopped. They're like, Rich is walking in the middle of this workout. I'll never forget that my entire life. Yeah, yeah, probably one of the most iconic moments in all of CrossFit, the fittest man in history. And he was back then the fittest person, the fittest person we we had ever seen.

And that, and that's what made that you're great, was watching Rich. I mean, part of it is what makes Rich great. That's why he has so much appeal for everybody. You know who said? That that set up the what was it? The pyramid. No, no, no 21/15, 9:20. 15-9 yeah, yeah, I him going backstage and then behind the scenes and. Darren Darren's Like do. You want to eat something and rich is like no, I suck. I don't deserve. To eat.

And then there was another one like he had like 22 events are like just mid, like, you know, 15th and Darren goes what's going on? He goes, I just suck. Like I don't, I don't know what's going. And the last one, I think you'll be happy with your picks. Pendles in one and two. I'm happy with that. I think we murdered that. I could see, I could see a burden run for being #1. I'm cool. I'm cool with those being one and two.

They're so close. And I enjoyed the capital more than the Burden Run. The Burden Run's very fun to watch, but I was in it with the people on like who's, you know, the fight. It felt more like a fight. The the weight of that bag at the end of the Capitol is so much more impressive than the log carry on the burden run. And like it just like if, if you could feel the suffering, yeah, more on the Capitol than you could the burden run. Yeah, I didn't, and it did not include Dave's 4. 100 and.

Six pack on deadlift but. You could have it qualifies in time. That's probably #1 honestly. There it is. Blind rankings brought to you by Amanda. Sleep before we head out. I don't know about that, but. Y'all didn't like that one? I love. That one I don't. Have. So much I want to pull something up here real quick. I think it does qualify as that, that and where were you? And Greg tweeted what he tweeted. That's the equivalent. Let's see. This is great for television.

It is, it is good. It's very good. Hold on one second. Our back end support is. Come on, Caleb. Really, really good. And Vicki Crazy if Caleb just jumped from show to show working back this is. This is a good a good question. No, yeah, he probably does. And I want to share something with you if you are going, Oh yeah, this is awesome. If you're going to the CrossFit Games and we're thinking about going to the RV park, there are still tickets available.

All of these blue dots are still up for grabs to go to the RV park, but there's something really special. What about this one right there in the middle? Right in the middle, right in the middle, fans, if you want crime. Real estate crime Real estate Breaking news, The Spin Family RV Tour is heading to Fort Worth. So there it is if you want me. To Tyler and Spin are all going to bunk in this RV and we're going to throw a barbell Spin party every night and

everybody's invited. So there it is. OG party on? On what? What's it usually on Friday or Saturday? Ours will be on whatever day that's not on. We'll just have a party once a once. A party? Yeah. So there you. Go. My wife doesn't know about it, but she will. It's. Gonna be weird anyway. Come visit the Spin RV bus so. Hopefully we'll be camping really is the best way to go or well the RV is sorry is the best way to go. So there you go with that, I think. I think we're done for the

night. Good show. So anyway, yeah, Surpriser spots, PC, they would be sold out in Madison. I was shocked that there are actually some left. So there's a whole bunch left with that. We will see you next week, guys. See you.