What's happening everybody? We are live. We are not live out of Fitfest, but we are live. We got Tyler Watkins, Heat one founder, the main guy at Heat One. We got John Young JY Barbell. Oh, yeah, yeah. You have a thing all the time, John. I'm. You have. A. You have a company now? I do, man. Listen, PR people are PR and left and right. I got 2 Masters games athletes right now, which is pretty awesome, yeah. Awesome. Are they happen to be out at Legends?
No, they're not at Legends. No, they're not. From far. No, Sir, no. But I've never, I don't think I've ever attempted to say because you're introducing us and started thinking about introducing you. So is how do you say you had Piffer on, right? Yeah, but that's why I don't use it. You sound like you're from A Game of Thrones, Brian. Piffer on. That's right, yeah. So we had everything lined up this morning, and we were. At 5:30. 5:30 Central Time.
We were we were up early. I was up before 5. Tyler got an extra hour of sleep because he's sitting over there in the East Coast time and get the last minute notification that the organizers of Fit Fest thought it was a better idea to not live stream it and to do whatever they're doing on Instagram with their stories and interviews and highlight reels instead of let us live stream it like we did yesterday because they were worried it was going to impact ticket sales.
So shame on all of you here in the United States for watching us instead of buying a ticket to go to Birmingham, Birmingham. So yeah, we were ready to go live and can't. So I don't get it. I mean, I know Danielle, Brandon's mom was watching yesterday. Matt Torres was watching yesterday. Hopper was watching yesterday because he told me to apologize publicly for saying that Roman beat him in the workout that I was talking about. So this would be my formal
public apology. Hopper, if you could tell the event organizers to get their crap together, that would be appreciated, but I do apologize for getting that wrong. So definitely not our decision to do that, but it is what it is. Yeah, we need somebody at Legends. I mean, that's the thing. If you don't have a live stream, you're forgotten. About. You're just forgotten about, unfortunately, right? Like Masters Fitness Championship didn't have a live stream.
Legends doesn't have a live stream. Fit Fest doesn't have a live stream. If we can't watch it, what's the point? Right, ticket sales, John, you don't get it. Yeah, I don't live in the. Birmingham. And I tell you. Right now, when? When rogue. If. If Rogue moves, I won't be going to rogue. And you know what? I bet they put a live stream up and I bet a whole bunch of people watch it and it hypes up more people wherever they do end up to go to rogue the next year
because they got to see it live. They're like, oh crap, that's in my freaking backyard. It's never over here. I'm going to go to it. What kills me is that our our live stream was 0 cost and we did this. Shit. For free. It's free publicity. Yeah, over. 6000 / 65 Ryan doesn't. Even pay me and I'm waking up at 5:00 AM to cover this freaking crap that you won't let us cover. How dumb can you be? Dumber than us, I guess, for getting up at 5:00.
I mean, yeah, I mean, honestly, after doing it yesterday, like what? Look, if you're an organizer and you have a competition and you have some interest in it, like, we can do this. Sivan's done this, right? Yeah. Like crash? Everybody on How many people watch Crash Crucible because of this? Everybody on this team would has been involved in one of those streams where we did it, we did it. You know bootstrap style like why would you not reach out to us?
Right. So if you are an organizer and you want it, let's chat. We'll figure something out. I guarantee they're sponsors that would love to have thousands of people watching, getting eyeballs on it versus just having a highlight reel on on Instagram. T Bird $2.00 for getting John up early. Thanks, T Bird. I appreciate it. That's all your early time is worth 2 bucks, you know. 2 bucks. Hey, that's 2 bucks more than I'm making now. So it's it's, it's good. We're going up. Yeah.
So that's the story. You know to the extent that hybrid fitness media is able to get me anything and do some collaborations, I'll still post those. Did a did a quick collaboration with Peter earlier another Brent Furkowski interview. But Matt Matt's actually doing I think an ethics race this afternoon. So. So yeah and we we actually, I was actually talking to Lauren Smith.
So she was on Pedro's podcast, the first one of around the whiteboard and she actually volunteered and was going to actually help out tomorrow. So she's doing the rowing today and she was going to jump on tomorrow. We were going to have potentially multiple cameras. A true professional sideline reporter who an international cast. Yeah, I mean a true European correspondent. For Steve Worldwide. Yeah and yeah, all for not, all for not.
So it's disappointing. We're disappointed as with everybody else, but it is what it is. So instead it's time to talk a little bit about Dubai. So I know John was watching Tyler, are you able to catch a little bit today? It's a It started early. Yeah, Sorry. Yeah, I I watched. I watched the women this morning and then I went and trained and I watched the men this afternoon. It was it was cool. Both both events were were neat. There's all. Kinds.
I love the interval event. I know we were like, skeptical about it and like, we didn't really know how it was going to work. The Tota bar, one with the front squats, I thought like as far as just like the stimulus that that workout got from people. I I loved that event. Yes, let's go through the workouts real quick. We're still waiting on the leaderboard to update from event five that just wrapped up a few minutes ago, but event three
kicked off this morning. 10 rounds for time 1 legless short rope climb. I'm not sure why they say short 10 thrusters. So this is 40 kilograms, 8040 kilograms, 3030 kilograms, so 88 and 66 lbs and 35 heavy double unders. This was in place of 15 wall balls. So a couple weeks ago they changed it from 15 wall balls to 10 thrusters, so that one kicked off. This morning they followed it up by the interval workout that John was just talking about.
So this one, the goal was to get 60 front squats, but it was an interval style, so you had to get through 25 toes to bar 16 or 12 calories on the echo bike before you had a minute to do a Max front squats. You got a minute rest. The leaders all finished in that third round. There were some women. I don't know if there's any guys that did not finish the 25 toes to bar in time, Ron. What's that? Ron's slide did not. He did not. I don't know.
If any more guys didn't, but I know I know Bruna Slade was not able to do the toast bar. Yeah, so that that was a gatekeeper. If you couldn't do the minimum requirement in minutes one or two during that those intervals you were, you were cut short. And then the last work out of the day, which was unannounced until minutes before, it was an elimination style. Think about dual like Rogue does. So it was a 15 Cal biker, 10 burpee box jump overs and then finished with a 30m sandbag
carry. Very quick workout, minute minute 15 to finish. And so it round one was all 30 or however many were still left in the competition, went down to a round of 20, a round of 10 and then a round of 5 S 4 rounds. I have my thoughts on this. We'll get there that in a minute. But I did. I I do agree with you John. I did like the interval workout more than I thought I was going to. It was a little tough to follow who was doing well in it.
If there would have been like a a score a score line like they have at the games and like at Rogue like that would have been
super helpful. But I get I get like we can't always have that but like if that we had that or even like a little like a ticker that like judges can throw and like you just scanned the scores I do on the they tried to as as hard as they could at least I I know Brian was trying really hard to say who had what at the end that rest period like multiple times they were they were like carn phrase at 44 reps so and so is at 41 reps and like they tried to recap so you could know but
like real time as they were doing it you would not know unless until that minute of rest you have no idea. I would have, I would have liked to have seen a second barbell out there so the 1st 50 is on one and then the last. Then you have the last 10 is on a barbell. It's pretty close to the finish line. And so when you finished 49 or #50, you then go run to that
last barbell. So you'd see, especially that last round, you'd see them finish 12345 and then they'd go run up and do the last 10. You'd have a little bit closer idea of who was still in it because we kind of separate those two. But it was, there was some sketchy reps. I think that was kind of the name of the game. If you watched the one with the thrusters too, there was a lot of. Sketchy reps galore throughout. Yeah. Did you like event? Did you all like event three?
I I I liked it. I think visually the. Time Cap was wrong. The time cap was wrong. I really like that Brian. Brian kept pushing this on the stream. Was that like, hey, Ricky had said that he was going to go a minute per round which ended up to not be true at all for Ricky, but but it was, it was fun. I like, I kind of liked them pushing, but it could have been like a 13 minute cap and I think everybody like more than half
would have gotten in on time. Yeah, I I think they definitely made a mistake on on the conversion of 15 wall balls to 10 thrusters. Yeah. I think, I think it it should have been like one of them once where they had different time caps for guys and girls. They've done that before, like like I got 13 minute cap for guys and then a 15 minute cap for girls. Even 14 I think, would have been close. Yeah. Even with that like. A lot of them would not, still would not have made it for sure
they were. They were a lot slower I. I wasn't like it's fine, it's a CrossFit event. I wasn't super excited about that event and to me it's like like the AMRAP. They'll usually have a 12 minute AMRAP at the games. That's just movements and like it's the like the least exciting event of the games. In my opinion. It always is. I like the endurance a bit more than the AMRAP because, I mean, they all can do everything unbroken the whole time.
So, like, it's just who pushes the pace the most and it's just not really that exciting unless at the very end it gets a little exciting to see who's going to win. I guess to me I was, I was, and I know it's only one rope climb, but like I was, I was really surprised towards the later rounds that like, no, they didn't. No one slowed down on the rope climbs. They were still flying up. Like no one kind of took a break
and and shook out and then went. They were all just like run up to the rope and jump, which I mean you kind of had to on that workout. But it was like, I I think it's it's CrossFit. Nerdy of me to like, be fascinated by that part. With one, I don't think it's that big of a deal, right? Like if there was two. I think you trying to change your your idea on it but 100. Percent Yeah, like when the women are not affected by it. No offense to women, but if the women are not affected by it,
it's not that big of a deal. Because legless rope climbs have been shown to be like this big separator in the in the women's field especially. And none of the women were like struggling for their to land like slowing down. Everybody was just going at their own pace. I understand why we need it. It's fine as an event, I just it's just not super exciting for me to watch. What? Do you think about the time
domain so far? So the longest one we've had is the interval one, which was technically 15 minutes, but we also had three, three, one minute break. So I mean the most amount of work we've had is 12 minutes. We've had nothing longer than that. We've had a short less than two-minute intervals. We've had a 7 minute obstacle course. We've had a Max lift tomorrow. There's only a it's a 22 minute time cap, a long chipper and then a 5 minute time cap on
event seven. It feels like this is a much different type event than we've seen at Dubai in the past, Tyler. Yeah, I there are. There is no event that's like you know, 15 plus it, you know eight really. I I feel like to be any kind of endurance test has to be 18 plus and 18's really low honestly. But what I will say as far as the endurance factor goes is the back like this morning has been back-to-back to back or this evening for them has been back-to-back to back.
And so there's it's not endurance, but it is sort of like it starts to tread the line of that where it's like your recoverability, which is what endurance tests anyway so. I disagree. I disagree with that so much. I'm not saying it's it's spot on, but like I like that all three are back-to-back to back. That's an element that. Yeah, but that's I and I like that in in in an event more like you. Like the ability to recover is
how fit you are. That's why Rich Froning was Rich Froning, because he was the same day one, day four, and everybody else wasn't the same day four does that. That's why he come out and that's why he would never really win. I'm not just talking about the endurance one, but like he always won all of his events on Day 4 because he was the same. He could recover better than everybody else. It's not like he got better. He was just he didn't get worse and everybody else did.
But like an endurance test, like you said, it's 20 plus minutes. That's not, that's not recovering. That's your ability to go along. Like I if we do a full event, I bet I recover better than you Tyler. But we do a long run. I bet you beat me. We do a long run, Brian. I bet you beat me, right? But we do 10 events. I bet the last day I'm feeling better than you are just from fitness, right? It's it's it's a way different thing that you're testing.
Way different thing. Yeah, I mean, I think some of that you could have seen by like Bronislaw goes out and wins the interval workout, right? So, like, at the very, very end, he's still the most powerful athlete.
This is the best Dubai Bronislaw could have asked for because there's not a last place guaranteed for him and every single Dubai before this, there's always been something that Braun would get last in. And I and like, I'm a little bit bummed because the endurance event in Dubai, it's always like. It's always been really cool. Awesome. Like they always like do it so
well. There's no way they end on an endurance event, but I mean, there's one we, I mean, there's at least one we don't know about, I would say. And Sod Sod made a comment that the the event he was most excited to watch in the interview with on Beef Friendly was Event 5, the elimination we just did. So he thought it was going to be like Acid Bath, but shorter the most. I think front squat workout tore
people up more than that one. And he said that the last event, while not announced was they're not doing anything that's unique and brand new or anything like that. So it won't be some wow, this is totally unique. So it's going to be another CrossFit workout, probably in 6 to 8 minute ranges. You know the time domain? No. It could be like A2 parter and like the first part is you got to run Sandhills for 50 minutes and the third part is. No, they're in. They're in the Coca-Cola Stadium.
Sprinting hills? I don't know. I John, I didn't realize you had a cousin. No, he's my long lost Asian brother. John. Yeah, we were separated at birth. I don't. I don't know how you figure it out. If you look at it, if you squint real hard, no pun intended. You'll see you squint Real. Hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You'll see. You'll see the differences between me and Sean. He's a good guy. I needed. I need people to know this is not me, though.
A lot of people think this is me and and it's not. I don't know who it is, but it's not. It's not me. John was on the On Chases podcast last night. So if it was you, you were on the show talking against John and it would just be too much so it would be chase level of of multitasking. So I'm. Really, really getting after it, Yeah. Yeah, multitasking. Yeah. So sorry. It's amazing the the you never know who you're going to see watching our show. But welcome, John.
Thanks for joining. We're growing in the Asian market. I guess that's cool. Good for us. Let's take a look at the the leaderboard. Asian, why did you say Yeah, good for us. John. Oh, just the podcast is. I thought you were saying you were Asian. My bad. I'm sorry, I'm lost. I'm lost. The podcast Is it updated yet? It is not. It's not updated yet, but through four events. Karen Friova, first place. Claudia Gluck by Lisa Fuliano, Norte Bleecker and Mia Hesketh round out the top five.
I don't think we had a whole lot of those in our top five, did we? Not I know this and. Yeah, that's it. Is is is something wrong with them at all? With crazy hair. What? What's that? Sorry you. Go first. You go first, Tyler. Is Bleecker the one with with colored hair? I don't believe so. I was trying. To figure out who that was during the He's got a. Crazy first name. Nor are you. I'm not sure who has the OH, Sylvia Garcia has the crazy hair. OK. Yeah.
What was your question, John? Is something wrong with Emma at all? Because I expected her to blitz that rope climb event and she she just looked like she wasn't about it at all and she wasn't having trouble with the rope climbs. She just wasn't going fast. So she turned down her invite at Dubai or at Rogue. At Rogue Imitational because of an injury she was kind of dealing with after the Games. I would have expected that to be healed if she accepted her invite to tuba to Dubai, but.
Dan just said she withdrew. Yes, Emmetal and Taylor Howe, because Kayla also a surprise, doesn't it makes sense now that why she was so far down the leaderboard? I would have expected, given how she had done in the road qualifier before her penalty, that she would have been at least competitive, right? I thought, I thought she had an outside chance of being top five and kind of put her in there, but she definitely was was struggling.
So it makes sense that if both of them were injured, that would that would explain a lot. None of our, none of our dark horses are up on the leaderboard either. They're all, I mean, there's going to be a little bit of mixing up, but for the most. Part Hey, Kyra Milligan did fine in that last workout. Like you? No. This is good for. Kyra, I think give it time. Run out to Kyra. Yeah, but I I I expected a few people would be a bit higher, Particularly Emily Rolf. She's not.
She's not an underdog by any means, but. She's missing that what's going on points with the whatever endurance event there was going to have. That's true. I think that that. Speaks to what we've seen differently this year versus prior years at Dubai. Like Emily Rolf was. It seemed like a lot of the workouts in previous years kind of fit her style, and this year, not so much. Emily's down there in 16th, Tyra's in 14th, main in Agony's
in 11th. That's a little surprising to me. How do you say that vessel Vesselmoy Vesselmoy? I think that's how Brian was trying to pronounce it. Baltimore. I don't know what he'll tell me in the comments that I don't know what I'm talking about and I. Don't know what the slash O does. Oh, wait. My. My landlord is from Norway and his name is yarn, but it has that O in it. So you would say it yarn, but you say it yarn, so it's vest. Vest le me. Le may. Vest le may call start.
Vest Le me. We're trying our best here. Yeah, yeah. Devin Kim and 18th Emmetal Yeah, definitely not herself. From what we've seen at the games, Brittany Weiss down in 21st, Julia Cato and 22nd Shahad Buddebs and 25th and Alexia Williams. I know she had withdrawn. Maddie Harris is withdrawn now. Taylor Howe and Batal. So quite a few. Dropping like flies. Hey Claudia, clock.
Give it up for her. Because I saw her up there and like, if you if you watched her during the front squat workout, like it felt like her and Carn Frey were going at it. And like you expect it from Carn from Carn Frey. But like like it was like them two and nobody else. They like they they were the people and she was trying to take it to the field and none of us were calling her name and she she looks like she belongs in the spot that she is in.
Yeah, I mean, you look at the, if we sort by the interval workout, maybe there we go, Claudia Cluck wins it. Karen Freova, Jackie Dahlstrom, Sylvia Garcia. She's a smaller athlete. Emily Rolf. Like. You would have thought, at least I would have thought the higher powered athletes would have been up there, which Karen Freyopa you would definitely expect. But Man in Anganese would have expected her to be up there.
Like Andrea Solberg would not have expected her, but like Mia Hesketh, Lauren Fisher. John wrong. No, David, we cannot turn down his microphone. Even if we try, we can. That's the that's the problem. It's all the way down. I wish they had could update this leaderboard, but looking at where we are now, three events left, How far down Just based off of this, we don't know. The leaderboard is at the end of the Today. How far down do we think has a shot at the podium?
Can we look at what events are left before we do this? And then And then I'll give you my I'm sorry that I don't know them off the back of my hand. Yeah. So Event 6 is the chipper. Long chipper, OK? Down and back, chipper. 21 minutes for the men, 22 for the women. So that machine is just an air runner or is it right? Yeah, the air. I mean, they said at first it was what it was. Like 50 Cal Macau. Yeah. Now it's a runner. Yeah. Or is it just a runner? Or is it a runner?
Because when they just. Say, don't know. I don't know. And then why did they change it to just? Why would? I don't know why would they change the wall balls to a thruster. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, why? I don't know. I'm. Just wondering what the reasoning? Is you would think that Dubai would have enough because. So I'm not against it, but I just want to know what the reasoning is so so you can. But then still, but then still like have some unknown and unknowability about it so you
can change your last. Mix it up, yeah, the numbers aren't as far as supposed to be. Yeah, I mean weird it. It is a weird like, if that's true, that's a weird flex. But OK, I guess. If if nothing else, we always can expect Dubai to change the times of events, potentially change the order of events, and then I'll now change. So if this is a runner roaming all day, if it's a run, I think Lazar wins. That makes a. Real run. I think it makes a huge difference between those two guys.
Ricky might win if it's a run. I don't know he was he was he's I don't know if his running back to par late yet I know, Kotler said. They'll get it in shape for the games, but I doubt it's changed since Rogue and. What has he not been running? No, he's been lifting, man. You see his back, squat, muscle up workout. He did a rogue and then he was like fifth in the run and he told Kotler, I can't run anymore. And I can't run anymore, but I got 5th. That for him. That's not right, dude.
He's. I know. Runner in the whole field like I. But that's good though, I mean like you only dropped that far and you just trying to be put. On I'm saying for this competition though, I would probably take like, I wouldn't say, oh, he's going to beat everybody yet, you know what I mean? I think he will. Though you think Ricky and Chandler from going competing last week on a team and then flying from Australia to Dubai, it just kind of has a little bit.
They're just off a little bit, even 510%, yeah. For sure I I would. So for Ricky, yes, for Chandler, this is what I would expect for at Dubai, just programming. I'm telling you, Chandler, Chandler floats with whatever programming. It is one of the more than most athletes Dubai programming. It's just they program a little bit differently than other competitions.
Usually it's more endurance based, it hasn't been this year but even then it's still a little different and and it it's never really that good for Chandler. Rogue always programs stuff that is going to be really good for Chandler. Like it's just I would not expect Chandler to be super great in Dubai programming and that's why I picked Luca to be better than him in our when we
were making our predictions. So, like, it doesn't surprise me, but for Ricky I do. I do agree he's probably a little bit worse, but I mean he's what, 7th place right now? He's probably. Going to be there. No, no, Ricky. Oh Ricky, Yes, he's 7th going into event 5 and. He and he got third. Yeah, like so he's going to, so he's going to be. And Lazar got outside the top 10. Yeah, I mean, he's probably going to be 4th place after
this, you know what I mean? If he's 4th place after five events, you're going to tell me he's dropped off 10% like he ends up third place. Exactly what I said. So I saw, I saw Lazar kind of slipped or something fumble on a transition. Is that everything that kept him out on that lap on the elimination event? Is that why he did? So I don't know how close. I mean like third, he has a 13th finish, but we knew that probably was not going to be a great finish, but then a first
and a first. So I'm wondering what I'm wondering. What happened on the elimination? Yeah, I I don't know what. Place I it's just it's just power output man. And he's not as strong as the he's He can't put out as much power as the big guys. Yeah, Speaking of the power output, we saw how how high was Roman going on the C2 bike? So we when The Who and whoever was camera guy in Dubai, great job, we need more of this. I don't know why we don't have more of this especially in the games.
He zoomed in and I mean it was really blurry for a while but he tried to zoom in and you got and we saw Roman's screen on the bike when he was sprinting and he was going 3700 cows an hour on the what? The second round, I think 3700 cows, an hour in the second round for his bike cows and he got done around 20 seconds. So if you look at the fastest people every single time it was right around 20 seconds. Maybe the fastest guy in the fastest round.
I think probably Cuervo got done in like 1819 seconds, so he was probably around 3800 when he was doing that 3839 hundred maybe for a second Mason, but that that's they weren't holding that cause. Roman was like 8 cows in whenever he zoomed in on that and that's like that's what he was doing. It wasn't going up or down anymore. That's what it was. So 3700 is what Roman was doing. He was getting done 20 seconds. Me and Brian had a little bit of we wanted just to see how
relevant this was. So this for Mason, just so you know, like this is how I know it's. It was 3700 for 20 seconds. So I went out, I went out in my garage and I sprinted on my C2. I was just went 15 cows as fast as I could and I was at 3600 and it was at 20 seconds. It didn't hit 20. It was like 20 hit and 21 seconds as the 15 hit, which is right around what Roman and then we're doing. I do not think I can hold this for all four rounds. I think it could probably last
two rounds and then I paid off. Brian did the same thing and he hit 3330. 350-3350 Yep. And Tyler did the same thing and he hit 2100, so it was pretty and it was toast. After that. Pretty spot on, pretty spot on. But that's pretty cool though, that we know that 3700 is what the fastest guys were doing. Maybe 3800 for 15 cows each time last. The last one was a little bit slower. Everybody's getting tired. Yeah, what damper were you on spin? Oh, what 1010? Interesting.
You should try it on an 8 man. That's what I was on. John and I were debating because it's like it is hard to push A10, but with that time domain maybe it's worth it. Well, I did notice one of the women on on one of the rounds she started. I think they reset it. I think the judge probably set it down to like a five or something each time, and if you weren't paying attention, it just sat there. Why would you choose that?
I saw one, she. She jumped on it, started peddling and next thing you know, she reached down and just slammed the, the, the damper all the way up to A10 and just started going. Yeah, I think Kristoff was at like A7. That's crazy. Like, like if you and I could be mistaken, I could be thinking of somebody else. But I'm pretty sure it was Kristoff. Was that like you could see where his damper was? And it was I'm, you know, around 7:00 again, I might be. Thinking, not pegged, but yeah.
It wasn't a 10. Yeah, for sure. Roman was a 10. Yeah. It's a there's a price to pay with like the RPM versus the force, like you got to get that balance right so. Yep. Well, I just think like for a workout like this, even if it's like if you do an 8 versus A10 and you're faster on 10, maybe you can hit a higher output on a 10, but it's one second difference. Sure. It's not worth it.
The amount of juice that's going to be in your legs versus an 8, and I know an 8. I can pedal so much faster and my legs are just going to recover way, way better than they would if I was on a 10. Right, Yeah. Another thing. I thought that it just drives me crazy is when they do the 10 box jump overs and you finish on the backside of the box. You got to go back. I'm curious if your feet had to hit the box because I I don't know why and you know your legs are juiced or maybe it's not
worth the risk. But I don't know why in the last one you wouldn't just jump over the box and that would give you like half a second on everybody. Like in a workout like this, where it's seconds if you jumped over the box in the very last one and they all taste 24 inches, not like it's a crazy thing, I mean, and then you're a half second ahead of everybody. Why would you not do that? But easier said than done. Maybe your feet had to hit the box. You know, I don't know all the rules.
It just it's the it's like that small little thing is like why not just finish and do 9 or do 11, do an odd number so you finish on the right side of the box and you go straight to the sandbag and pick it up. I don't know. Yeah, they're all doing the same work. I get it. It's just a little thing like that that drives me crazy. What do you think about this? So cuts at Dubai. I I I saw in in that same interview with Brian, friend mentioned that there would be
cuts. It sounds like there's a cut before Event 7, and another cut potentially before Event 8, the last event. Does everybody still get paid? You know, like before. Yeah, everybody still gets paid, but I. Don't. I don't have a problem with it. If everybody gets paid. I guess it's his competition, bro. You know, he gets to do what he wants to do. But as as much as everybody complain about the games. It's not the games. I know, but should should
everybody complain about it? I mean, I was OK with the cuts and I thought announcing it now should is it? Is it? Are you OK with it coming out? During the. Competition, Right. Like in the middle of the competition. Like, hey, you're here, you've started. I'm curious if the athletes knew before. They all get paid. So it it doesn't bother me so
much. Also the only reason that I care that that people get cut at the games is because of what what it does to the weird athletes and and how they affect the leaderboard. But in this, to me it's more of a showcase, so I don't really care all that much. I mean, yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, you want them in the test, but at the same time, it's like it's their own event. So I don't, I don't care. This isn't for the fittest on Earth. I do think if you are the athletes and you had no idea
until today, that's shady. I think if you're the athlete, you owe it to the athletes to say, hey, we are going to cut around event seven, event nine. Once they like say, hey, we're going to do, you know, they accept their invite or whatever. And then if you like, hey, don't tell anybody that we don't want nobody to know. As far as that stuff goes, I don't care that they tell us. The athletes should know that they're going to get cut before the before the actual event
happens. Yeah, Lynn, the Jerry offseason comps shouldn't have cuts just so all the athletes get to see engage themselves as much as possible. Reaction. That's the athlete perspective. It's their competition. The athlete accepts the invite for their competition, for the Dubai's competition. The South does not owe anything to the athletes. The athletes are coming to his competition, right? So, like, if he wants to do that, it's all within his means
to do that. If you're the athlete, you of course you don't want there to be cuts, But you accepted the invite and that guy owes nothing to you. It's his competition. If you John. If you were invited. If you were, if you back filled Koski this year. Glad. We had to. You'd have no, you'd have no. I don't think you'd have any perceptions that you would make the cut, right? Like you, you're competing, you probably would make the cut. Would you be upset?
And if you got invited again next year, would you go, let's say you were a top 30 athlete, right? You did. You earned your way, you earned your invite in there. Would you still want to go after that cut or would you be like I don't want to go all the way to Dubai for two days of competition to make 500 bucks. Well, don't they cover your expenses too? I don't think Dubai does. I could be wrong, they. Used to. Yeah, they used to I if they don't the price for different. Equation.
Too. It's a different equation if if that's true. It, you know, it depends. I don't know if I would go out to if I already did Dubai because it's kind of like a thing you want to check off on your list. Oh, it's like an awesome thing. So like if I already did it, I've, I've done it, right. So but I would not not go to Dubai again because I got cut.
It would just be because I want to train throughout that time or or whatever good chance like if I thought I could if I was top 30 and I thought I had a chance to make money even if even if I I didn't but I had I had a chance to, then of course I would go. It would not influence me going at all that I got cut when I knew there was a high chance that I would get cut. Like even if you even. If you went out there and you had no idea, then you got cut.
You're like this sucks like. Yeah, it would. Yeah, it would suck. But I think I would add before I got accepted my invite, I'd be like, are you having cuts this year? I think I would ask that question. It's all to be like, I don't know. I get to make my decision. I'll tell you when you get here. Yeah, And then then it's. I tell you what, it would influence me to accept or not, but it's on me to accept or not. And then it's on. Like I should not get mad if there is and I shouldn't get mad
if there isn't. If there isn't, awesome. If there is, Then it's up to me to not get cut. Like it's not, you know what I mean? Like, you know there's a risk of that when you accept the invite. That's fair, that's true. Still still no updates on event 5. It's a. They used to pay for expenses, though I will say if they don't pay for expenses that that is a big, big deal. But they used to pay for your flights in in like a hotel. I mean that's a freaking awesome trip bro.
Like it's Dubat if they still. Do that still is? I don't know. If they still do that, absolutely I would. Because I mean, it's just why? I don't know why you wouldn't. You know what I mean? It's good experience. Sarah Cooper, I wonder how much the UK event is paying if nine of those athletes, if none of those athletes chose Dubai. So I guarantee. Well, probably depends on how many ticket sales there are, right? Yeah. But also I think the brand, the brands that are involved.
He said. That's so notched a lot. It's just. The brands that are involved over there, I think that has something to do with it. Partners. Oh definitely. I mean, I think you're a bigger market like all that stuff. So yeah, you know, yeah, there's there's definitely some ties of who's there and why they're there. A lot of different similarities and and certain agents and and things like that. So it wasn't just like random let's pick 18 athletes there. There were certain reasons of
why that was the case. And I do want to say, like, the reason why I feel like we're so up in arms, at least at least me 'cause I'm I'm undergoing an Instagram comment battle right now, is that we were told that we were allowed to stream this. The first event was awesome, unexpectedly awesome.
We didn't think it was going to be awesome and we we had a really good time covering it. And if it felt like it was going to be a great weekend and all of those athletes were were going to get seen by a lot of people and Europeans would TuneIn for these shows that we're going to put on YouTube that wouldn't TuneIn beforehand. I can guarantee you it would grow whatever you are trying to grow. And now nobody knows it's happening. Like we're we're letting people know what's happening.
And like we were told we were going to be able to cover it the whole entire weekend. We covered the first event and then they were like, Oh no, too many people watched it. We don't want to we don't want you to cover it again And now we're not allowed to. And like, it's just it's just it just felt very shady and that's why like we we feel so strongly about this. Speaking for myself, I'm I'm not going to speak for you guys, but for myself, that's what it felt like. It's nonsensical.
I mean, like how big is our European market in the grand scheme of those views? I bet it's less than 20%. Yeah, YouTube hasn't updated its analytics yet. It's usually like a day day, day and a half behind. I mean we're up to almost 7000 views so far on it and I'm sure it's at best 1020% from England. And then how many of those people who watched it on your feed? We're like, well, I'm not going to go now that I can watch it here. Right. Ridiculous. Ridiculous.
This was a chance to grow the European market. Versus. Yeah, Versus we streamed it, other people didn't know about it and maybe are in that area and we're like, oh, I didn't even know about this. I'll go next time. Right or we're I'll go tomorrow we. Want to see more of this? Yeah, oh, I could go see and they're they're chatting with the fans and it's right there. You get a I mean, there's only like 10 rows of seating. I mean, it's a very small venue if I were an. Athlete.
I'd be pissed. Like this is a cool thing and you're not exposing me online. And there's dudes wanting to do that for free, and you won't let them do it. Yeah, Ortega, it wasn't Quite too many people watched it, it was. They were worried that by live streaming the event that it would limit ticket sales so it was not sold out. There were definitely tickets available. The area around the Pro Athlete Showcase was packed like the stands were full.
But what I heard was everywhere else was empty, right? So people weren't watching the rowing or the weightlifting nearly to the extent that they were watching these top 18 CrossFit athletes throw down in a unique format. Popping brings up a great point. I didn't even think about this. Think of the NFL. Whenever they go over to England 'cause they have like 4 games in in England. I think. I don't know if it's London or not, but like at Wembley Stadium they have like 4 games a year.
Think of the NFL was like, oh, we're not allowed to show those games. This just this is just what happened. Yeah, that. Would be here's. The Here's the Instagram story for. You Why would you do that? Like, right. We're trying to grow the sport in England, so. And that makes sense that that logic holds water. So much water, yeah. I don't know it. It's definitely frustrating.
There's an episode of Frasier where they they make a restaurant and they're like we won't put a, we won't put our name on the door and we won't we won't like advertise or anything and and the dad is like, Oh yeah, why don't you just beat people up who try to find the freaking. Restaurant. That'll drive sales. 0 Heidi 0. That's a good, that's a good point. I just, I just probably eat some. That comment made me crave. I really did.
I mean, one last thing. I don't even care if we weren't even able to, like if we couldn't stream it, but there was a stream elsewhere, like if they had their own stream. Like, I don't need to try to go bootleg it and do the coverage over it. Like, I just want to see what this thing is about. And now I have really very little interest in it. Also, probably the least interesting event, which are always the endurance events.
Was fun. Yeah. Like, I'm I'm truly bummed because we didn't get to see the rest of it. Like besides, like our little, our qualms about not being able to stream it. I just wanted it streamed somewhere. I just want to watch it and now I can't. Right. Yep. Back to Dubai. I'm I Well, one more thing. I am wondering, do we know if anybody's filming like a behind the scenes or or they're going to do like some sort of media push on YouTube after the fact so we can watch this?
Because if that's not true, this whole this whole thing was even Dumber than we even started with. That's cute Tyler. No, what I was told was there would be highlights and stuff on Instagram, which you are seeing. With. Lauren Khalil's interviews and a few reels that they put together, but I usually try pretty much the extent of it. I usually try to be moderate and pull my punches a little bit, but in this sense, like I can't, I can't. It just makes no sense.
Yeah. So feel free to comment on their Instagram page if you guys feel the same way, because I don't really want to go to war, but if you just want to let them know like how stupid they are, like you know, I'm I'm with you all in that in depth. I think they need to hear that people wanted to see this. And it's it's not telling you to go to their go to their Instagram page and say that but it I know at Fitfest, under score UK, you know they're
putting their stuff out there. You know, if you just want to, you go tell them you how much you appreciate you know. What? You all don't need to say they're stupid, but you can say, Tyler said. You're stupid that just that be your comment. That's fine. T Bird, any chance they'd let us tomorrow? At first it was, yeah. No, no, I won't do it. Don't tell me to do it now because, like, you know what I'm saying. We do it now. Nope. Sorry. I hope you sell all the tickets
in the world first. I'm not doing it next year either. You burned your breed. They were cool with it, but they were still considering Sunday night because of ticket sales. And then it turned into we're cool a Saturday morning. We're not sure about Saturday night because of ticket sales. And then we woke up this morning, it was like no ticket sales. So it just kind of just kept on dropping down a little bit. Wake me up at 5:00 AM to tell me to go back to.
Sleep. So if you're in, if you're in Birmingham, UK right now, it's all your fault because you didn't sell this thing out. You didn't go there, you know? And if you didn't buy a ticket to go overseas, also your fault to go to an event that you have no idea what was happening until the last minute. That would be the thing to comment on their threat or anything they post, just post ticket sales and don't say anything else. Yeah, draw your dagger. You got a replacement, John.
Somebody else wants to just scream about random things. John doesn't scream about random things. He just gets fired up every once in a while. You know, believe it or not, I am like the most accurate picker of all games events. Like in all of analyst's world. OK, before. We could just say you were screaming about random things. We were only talking about screaming and getting fired up. Just got to, just got to you know put that out there before we is the leaderboard updated
yet. No, of course is that is. Not even the women. Nothing. I don't even. I mean, we know the order. I mean, they they did the order to get. Yeah, but I don't know. Like the, Like the. But we know the cuts like we like. They obviously knew 21 through 26, they have the scores and then they have 11 through 20 to have the next cut and six through 10 and then one through 5. I don't know if they're trying to figure out how to actually put it into competition corner because of that.
Because they don't want to preview. Are they doing event 6 today or is that? Tomorrow. No, no. We're all done for the day. There's no more events. 6-7 and eight are tomorrow. Jesus, they'd be walking through event six at this point. That's a lot of. That's a lot of volume. Yeah. Yeah. We haven't looked at the men's leaderboard without Event 5. Roman Krenikov in first, Lazer Jukic in second. Fabian Benito is in 3rd. And he did pretty decent in Event 5, right Fabian?
Roman and Fabian did well, Anya Likai in 4th and Chandler Smith I I think Anyo made it maybe top ten in that. I don't know where Chandler Smith ended. Up I don't think Chandler or Luka. Did particularly they didn't do well and Rick saw her. Yeah, Lazer did very, very poorly. So yeah, Lazer will definitely be dropping down. I think this is Romans running away at this point. I don't think anybody can catch him unless Fabian pulls off some some type of miracle. But Ricky Gerard?
He got third on Event 5, so he'll definitely gain 100 points top four after today maybe. Yeah. Really behind Roman, Lazer and Fabian? Yeah, I think so. And I mean, I'm, I'm telling you, I think Ricky's going to get third place. So that Y'all said it wasn't possible. I know I don't want to root against Ricky, but at this point I need him to screw up just so I'm. Right. I know, I know. Listen, listen. I I I'm tired of being right too, Tyler. It it gets on my nerves too.
One of these days. Yeah, stay humble. Stay humble, bro. Sometimes more. It's Phoebe and. 9th Griffin. Raleigh. 10th Shout out to Toby Buckland. Yeah, and he. Fell with the sandbag, I think. Or at least dropped it so he could have been up even higher. He might slip a little bit after after this event bronislaw with the event win on event 5. So he has two first place wins, two event wins in a in a strong showing in the obstacle course. You know, if you look at like
the point spread. Bronislaw is going to jump so much after this event, like he looks like he's really down there, but it's 3834 points to to Ricky now. I think it'll be 7th. Simone Mantilla did pretty good too, didn't he? He did. He did good in this. Yeah, Mantilla did did pretty well for. Feebig did Well, yeah, you're you're right, you're right. But like he's going to. Jump so much just because of this event, Yeah, I.
Don't like the long chipper? Down the back though, for him tomorrow with the run, he would have done much better. If there was a ski in that thing. Or a row. Jorge Fernandez, 19th, That's a little surprising. Yeah, you need to see him higher up in this type of field, especially going individual for 2024. And then Christophe Warbath, which? He doesn't train, doesn't compete as much as he used to, so I'm not surprised there. Elliot Simmons coming off of injury.
Guillaume Briant, That's a little. Surprising down in 21st, I think he's another guy that would have benefited. From a endurance event that we just we just did not have and very surprising that we didn't have it. Dubai Forever has been known as the endurance event out of the big three and that's not the case this year. Not that it's bad, I don't think it's it's not that it's bad. It's just what is typical of divides and it hasn't been the case this year.
John will ask. You this question, since you are definitely a big Mayhem fan. Does Jorge qualify for the games this year? So he just moved out. He just moved out to Cookeville, so he will be in North America East. So they will get more athletes qualifying, but they do have a pretty tough field I think. The. I think if. If the games. Adopts the the haunt method that we did yesterday with get with the programming where the right spots are earned for each region.
I think if that becomes the case then Jorge would make the games, but if it is how it was last year with the spots, how many, how many North America East using? That last year's 11. Using. Chases and and. Help they got. They got 12. I think they had one. More than they had last, yeah. Something something like that. I think it was in. The ended up being one more, but I think he'll be on the line. I think he'll be one of those guys fighting for the spot. I definitely think he can, but I
think he'll be on the line. Come down to the last event. Y'all are out of your mind. He's not even hit it, man. He's. Behind. Kayik, Cerveny right now and Kayik got First off the game. Kayik game is. Very fit, man. Get out of here. Yeah, fit enough for 37th at the. Game. And he's from a bad region. What are you talking about? Kayiki won his semifinal. Tyler. Yeah, he won his Tyler, listen and listen Dubai if. Not is. Not quarterfinals. No, not semi finals. But I don't want to.
I don't want to. Be trending where he's at right now at Dubai. Regardless at at any competition. I don't want to trend behind in Cayuke. I'm not saying in Cayuke is bad, but in the OH. My God. It's just. Like you're in the North America. East Region Bro. This is the hardest region in the world and you won't come in here with that weak shit. Sorry. I believe in you, Jorge. I will say this.
I will say this if it and I don't think it will because I think we all know how I feel about Austin Hatfield. If it comes down between Austin Hatfield and Jorge, I'm going to take Hatfield all day because Hatfield was on the line and he's missed it by one spot last last year. I think Jorge has a shot if I think he could finish anywhere between like 9th and 15th, right? That's how I feel about Jorge. It almost depends on the
programming. I think if he gets a couple home run hits I which I don't put it out of the realm of possibility. Semi finals programming is good for Jorge like the way that it usually is programmed. I think it fits him very well. There it is. East got 12 using. The trace Ingram method Jorge should train in. Cookeville, But then suddenly. Live in San Diego come February. I mean that's that's that's what man, right? There. Why do you hate? Mayhem. I don't hate. Mayhem. I actually, I love.
Mayhem. It's just I'm I'm a realist about who an athlete is. Sorry, what? Do you mean you've hit? The weirdest people to hate. Like Haley Adams, Haley Adams and Jorge Fernandez. Haley Adams and Jorge Fernandez. Both mayhem athletes and and you got man you're just so out of them so hard just now. A mayhem athlete. He's an. Invictus Athlete previously How old is he? He's 20. Eight. No, he's. Older He's 20. 829 That's alright. That's young man. Nope, that's over. Yeah.
So Jorge, just. Moved out to Mayhem last month. I think he finally made it out there. He's been doing I think Mayhem programming for let me let's wait for Semi final program. Like for us to know the events and then I will. That's way too far away. No, no, no, I I got you. I got you. But like, I will have a confident guess if he can make the games when I see those events, I'm confident. Right now I I. Don't understand why you need semi finals programming. It is not going to happen.
It ain't going to get close to happening, just. Mark it Jorge, fit I I I'm not saying. He's not. But I'm talking like, you're talking about like somebody who started at Morehead State and being like, oh, they're going to, they're going to beat Alabama. Are you out of your mind? It's the greatest. Team. Well. I think he's going to this. See this is John's. Version of of me saying like like hey, or Mallory's going to do well at the games like that I already know or something like that.
I I disagree. I You know what I. Think Jorge is Appalachian State and and we're talking about beating Michigan. Yeah, rank these three and it can. Happen OK, rank these three. I'm saying it's it's in the OK, how about hold on, hold on. I'll rank them in a minute. Do you think it is possible? You're saying it's flat out impossible. I'm saying, I'm saying there is a chance all. Right. Go ahead, Rank. These three Who? Am I ranking rank these three
Saxon? Patrick. OK Jorge Fernandez, Luke Parker, Saxon Luke. Yeah, Saxon. That's not a hard one. Saxon, Luke and and Jorge. Wait, you just said? So all three of them are qualifying for the games then? John, you? Said Rankle. Yeah, yeah. I. Mean the way Luke Parker did this? Year. I mean, if he does the same next year, then yeah, 2. OK, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. It's it's freaking. It's out there. With that.
Tesla car that that Elon shot in the space, that's how far out it is. There's a shirt somebody put. Somebody put Jorge. On this, let me ask you this, let me. Ask you this, Tyler, OK. Do you think there is cause 'cause I'm I'm going to throw a hill for you to die on that? Do you think there is a better chance of Jorge making the games or Travis Mayer getting top five in the games next year? Travis Mayer Getting top five in the games, or do you? Think there's a better chance of
that? Absolutely. 100% Travis is going to. Water Palooza. He's going to get top five. That's what I commented. I commented that so I disagree, but. OK, we'll see. So who's out? If Jorge's. In. If Jorge. 'S in, Who's out? Alex Migno, How are you going to go up to 9th? That's going to be out. I I I said it you. Saying are you? So you're saying that? Jorge beats Sprague, No. I just think he, Alex Vigno won't. Be there. Noah Olson is going team. Alex Vigno won't be there.
That gives enough room for Austin Hatfield and Jorge Fernandez. I got to make room for my boy, if I hadn't. Flipped that down, you would not have. Answered it that way. I feel like I that was the greatest. Thing tomorrow time right there. Get out of here. I feel like I gave it away by scrolling down to. Austin, right when you were talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You you are not. There yet I was there. Man, the whole time. Waiting on y'all to catch that. Hey, hey.
What did I tell you about Tyler Christophel? Never going to the games and you think he's going to be Tyler? Yeah. You're full of shit now you're. Tyler will remain out of the. Game. So unfortunately, he's a quitter. Listen, he quits, Tyler. Tyler. Tyler needs to move. No, We were comparing Tyler. And and Jake Berman and Tyler Christophel has beaten Jake Berman, like, every step of the way. Yeah, yeah. So I think I.
I probably could agree with. You on that, John that he's got a. Chance or are you feel? Confident about it or I'm less. I'm in between the two of you. I I I think he's. Just on the outside. I have. I think there's there's a chance. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that he's. He's in like he. I think he'll be in the fight for the last spot. The problem is if you say that there's. Saxon Panchak is ahead. And who else was it? You know, I'm not I I wouldn't be.
Surprised if Jack Farlow fell out either. I mean like Luke Parker, Jack Farlow, Austin Hatfield and Jorge and Alex Vigno, you can throw those five in any order you want to throw them in. I I would not be surprised in any order if those finished in a mix and Noah's gone. Yeah, like that's. That's how I feel about it.
I think James, I think James Sprague is going to take a step up and make it comfortably and then I think Spencer will always be like in the in that tier of fighting for it, yeah and yeah. And I just think all. Those guys are going to fight for it. I I would love to say Hatfield will make it comfortably. I can't, but I think James will.
And then I think all those guys will be in a mix for those last like 5 spots and I I wouldn't be surprised if Jorge comes out on it. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't. I do think Hatfield will make it. I do think Luke Parker will make it. I was really down on Luke Parker and then he like, was really good. So I had. Now I'm now I'm just going to be like, I think he's going to be good enough until he's not
again, you know. Yep, Halpin brings up a good point, which is. Something I've been thinking about is maybe Roman. Doesn't get an exemption this year. Why would they reverse it? I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't know why I. Don't know why you'd reverse it. What was the? Reasoning that. Roman got it this past year. Because he lives here, he lives with Rich. It wasn't 3. Years. Right. He still is not AUS citizen, so he's got. Like a five year.
Citizenship, though, doesn't he? He's got like a He got an athlete, he got an athlete visa. That's not AI thought he was allowed to. Live in America for five years. That's not citizenship. That's that's what it's based off of, right? It was. We don't know the exact reason why, but everything was indicating it was, you know, political turmoil. Well, shit. Difficult to leave and travel. I feel like I. Feel like it'll probably. Just be called the Roman Krenikoff exemption and it's
what you like and like. He'll always get it because he's the problem. Is the problem that I? Have and I think why helping isn't far off from this is we were concerned that he couldn't. Travel to South. Korea, right? With all of the Russian conflict traveling out of the States, how difficult it was for him to get his visa and then right before? Dubai, he's out in South. Korea doing a workshop. That's true, yeah. But mean man, why should he get an? Exemption. Ellie Turner didn't get an
exemption. She had an athlete visa. Why should Bailey get an exemption? She. Fucking lives in or a Cookeville, Yeah. Why does Africa still have a spot? Right, there's a bunch of them. But what I'll say about this is I. Mean those are money making opportunities for Roman that aren't dependent on a season. But if I'm talking about like the real, the real show, the games, that whole process, I want to be as close to home as possible.
And if he's living in Cookeville, like I want to go to Knoxville and I don't think that that's a stretch. I mean, he lives their athletes. At a time there were athletes who qualified for semi finals and were living in Turkey and had to go out to South Korea versus going to was it Germany this past? Year. Well, I mean, I'm. Not saying that's right, either. That's right, but basically they were told. You're in your region. Sorry. Like go travel out to South Korea, right.
So OK, but I'm saying rules. Say he doesn't. Say he doesn't. And then he. Gets the Asia spot, right? Yeah, right then. Then there's just another spot. Then Tyler Christopher's a Games athlete and and. Tyler is the we can't. Have that ever been wrong? Yeah. All of this is a conspiracy to keep. Tyler out or or take a A. Resident That's not the rule. The rule is you have to be in your country. You have to be a you will get to have been living in a certain
area for three plus years. He's not. He's close, Ellie Turner was. Close last. Year She was at what, 2/2 and 1/2 of being in North America? It's based off of where you're a citizen. If you have dual citizenship you can go between the two. He's not AUS citizen, yet he has an athlete visa he's travelled to. South Korea, so he. Has the capability to do it by the rules of what is in CrossFit rule book. He should not be allowed to get the exemption they get. A Pirates Code What if?
What if? They're more of guidelines than. Rules really. Where's the Where's the Asia Semi final held South? Korea. South Korea he was. Just there I yeah, I mean I feel like he can just go to. I feel like that's however they want to do it. I I think it's fine if he wants. If they want to say he could be here, fine. They want to say he's in Asia, that's fine. I think he can do it regardless. I don't think he has travel
issues anymore. It's just another spot for the Easton, right open spot, another open spot. But if he is for Asia, that takes away his like credentials that are for. The East, right? In in the top 100. Be out of Asia now, so that could take away a spot potentially. I you know, maybe not. But it could potentially take away a spot. Yep. Harriet. Olson, wasn't that a Turkish actually who lives in Norway? That no, that was not Sayer Kaya or Kaya or whatever that was to somebody else.
It was it was on the verge, you know lower lower level athlete who was trying to get into semi finals. It was not Sayer Kaya. So but again it it depends on what you're going to do. Are you going to really follow what the rules or how they're laid out? And I totally get why Roman didn't get it last year, right? Russia conflict traveling across. You just got your visa. You don't want to leave the States. Totally get it. Yeah, I'm. I'm good. Either way, now you show that you can.
Travel to South Korea. I don't see A. Path as. The 2023 rulebook stands where you can get that Alex. F Dollar 99. To let Jon know Leahy beats Hatfield. Listen, Alex, I don't know what? Relationship you got with Bill, but how did that go in crash? Not well, yeah, I think. Leahy still needs some. Time under his belt. Some competitions definitely has potential for sure, but Hatfield's shown that he is better than Leahy head to head convinced. Yeah.
And can read the rule book. I want to get. I want to get a little. Conspiracy theory on on the Roman thing. I mean, like if I'm if I'm CrossFit to win the CrossFit game. No if. I want it to be American. No if I'm, if. I'm CrossFit and I'm thinking. Like Dana White, I want Roman in North America East for ticket sales alone, right? So I don't I. Just can't see a universe where they revoke it. It doesn't make sense from a business perspective. Yeah, but I feel like then just change it.
To wherever you're living then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then they. Can't use the rules whenever they. Want to use the rules, so I don't know. Yeah. I. If they, if they do keep him in the East, it is 100% because of what Tyler just said. Yeah. And then if they. Want to? Abide. By what they have set forth then he is in Asia. But that's almost why I feel like they're just going to call
it the Roman Krinikov exemption. Like if you want to, that exemption rule should just be titled the Roman Krinikov exemption rule because if they if they keep him there, if they keep him there, right. I don't see how you can argue, I mean. Like I'm not even. What about? What about Tia Tia's going to be in. Oceana. She wasn't last time, right? Well, she's lived here for more than three years. She's lived here for more than three years. OK. OK. Yeah. I just. Go ahead, sorry.
No, go ahead. I just. Can't see it like he lives. Here mostly. And so it's like it makes got to be three years. What do you tell Ellie Turner last year? I know. Well, I don't think that they did. Her right, though, so you're only proving my point. I don't think they did her right. You have to be a top. 5 athlete to. To to break the three-year contract rule, I'm not even saying that either.
Like if you had, if you had a bottom 10 athlete like, but they had some sort of thing going on, like if if Hamza, I mean like Hamza has it has a shit deal at it too every year and it's like, I would just let him compete here, yeah. So here it is. In the 2023 rulebook, sustained residency in a single country outside of that athlete's country of citizenship beginning on or before February 16th, 2020. So this year would be 2021. Roman was not here in 2021. Extreme financial hardship,
though. Roman's one decent. Amount of money they sent Ellie to. To. Australia for that, even though that was one of her ways of trying to argue that Political hardship. Yeah, political hardship. Totally could have. Gotten It could have been on board had he not gone to South Korea this past month and restrictions from attending their expected semi final due to immigration or visa status. Again, another issue that possibly could have applied to Roman in 23 doesn't apply to 24.
So yeah, Ellie, yeah, I believe that she gets the three years this year because of of that. So I don't. Know it was just one of those. With Roman, I'm curious to see it. I've been. I've been wanting to bring it up. I just haven't found a a good time. And I like this. This is not part. Of the show. So it's like it was not. Is this the part where we start pulling up videos and talk of politics like step on those? I don't have. I don't have. That stuff pulled up and.
Dang, it happened. How dare you to sidetrack this show. What was that? Is this Halpin's fault bringing up? Roman. He sidetracked the show. Hatfield Breeds Bunnies with his. Grandpa did not know. That fun fact. Wait, he does. Or is that? I don't know. I mean. Ortega was at crash. He does. I assume that's some some news that he knows Bunny breeder ship. All right. Still don't have. I guess everybody in Dubai is asleep right now, so they have not updated the leaderboard.
Don't know what they're doing. Shut her down. Before we see. You guys at the end of competition tomorrow, top three Roman. And then who's into second and third? Tyler. Let's start with Tyler. OK. Who's in 2nd and? 3rd tomorrow at the end. At the end of tomorrow. At the end of the Dubai Fitness. Championship Who? Who's on the podium tomorrow? Sunday after an unknown event. Eight, I'm going to say. It stays remotely. I'm going to stay the same Lazar and Fabian.
And Les Fabian took a A hard. Fall today? He didn't, though. Right on that. No. Lazar did. Lazar did. I'm still going to say relatively the same I like. Lazar. Just period so. What place did Lazar get in this interval 1? Do we know? He missed out on, I think. He was in 6th or 10th if I recall. OK, so that's not a bad or no no. No he no, I think. He was actually outside the top ten. Sorry. But even that, even that that's not. But I don't know if he was 11th
or if he was 19th. I don't know. Yeah, it's a big jump. I am going to say it's going to be Roman, Lazar and Ricky and I think the last event, Ricky has a shot to beat Lazar but does not pull it off. I'm going romy Roman. Fabian, Romy, Romy, Romy, Fabian and Ricky. You think Lazar is going to? Drive hard. Well, I think Lazar is now in. 3rd right now I agree. I don't think he can catch Fabian, but we'll he's about to win this next event. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
He's. Going to get, he's going to get first or second. In this event, yeah, I. Was going. To stick with it, Fabian. Has shown that he can do it at Dubai. We'll see what, and we don't know what the last event is either, but I can't. Imagine it being sprinty, I just. Can't. They've had so many of them. I just don't think they go along on a final event. You don't. Think they make it like that? Like you. Remember the last event when Fraser was there?
The 30,000 event where it was like 3 different workouts but just all together. Man, it would like it started with like 5. Rounds of like. 20 toasted bar and five clean and jerks with 90s. I think they're just running out of things to do. I just they haven't done. I bet it's like. That though, I bet the last events like. A whole bunch of stuff, everything that they haven't done, and then it ends up being like 17 minutes they could go.
Hidalgo on them and just make. Them run across the desert. Tell them you got to go that direction. I like that. It's about like. It's not like endurance, it's more about survival. I take a little bit all day, but again, like Saad said, it wasn't anything. New surprising. Nothing. That's. Going to be a big curveball. It's going to be straight up CrossFit movements. We've not seen deadlifts, Max. Deadlift. No. It won't be Max deadlift. Oh man, if it was. I'd be like. Gosh, no, I think.
It's like format. Yeah, same format. Do deadlifts and wall walls or something like that. They switched out the thrusters and put wall balls in the last event. I don't know. I I think it's just going to be a. Hodgepodge of movements like it's do you do you know the work that I'm talking about which I don't. I don't. Remember the the 20. 2019 Due 20. 19 The one that Fraser won in the last event was $30,000. They they said we'll give you $30,000 whoever wins.
Travis Mayer tried to win it. Win it. Yeah, I think he got second because he went really, really hard on it. I think he got like some sort of penalty too. I. Think he got second place on it? It was 2019. It was the last event, Jonathan. If you want to go look it up, it was, but it was just a bunch of different movements. And it was, but it was a longer event because it was a bunch of different movements. Dewan's behind. This one. Yes, she is. Nope, not that one. That's when.
Fraser and Velner or not, Bukowski and Velner were there. Maybe it's 2018 then. Thought you're killing me. Sorry. I'm sorry. It's the one that Fraser won, either 2018 or 20 if it's. Not 18, it's 17. It's the one that. Fraser. Won. OK, we might. We might have it here. Loaded. Give me a please hold. Yes. I think I think this is it. 2018. Yeah. Yes, it's this one. Oh yeah. The devil's like. But like you see how it's just. A whole bunch of different things and like and so and then
it ends on a lunge. It's just like 3 little mini workouts, but you think about we've done bar muscle UPS we've done. Devil's I'm not saying it's going to be this workout, Brian. But like we've done double like it's. I'm saying it's just going to be. Stuff like this. No, John, it can't be this workout. Ring muscle. That's not what I'm saying. Like, like like ring like ring. Muscle UPS instead of bar.
Hank are clean and jerks. Dumbbell clean and jerks. 15 chest of our pull ups, not double Unders 6060 Yeah, deadlifts with something. 30 wah balls and then five snatches. Boom. But. And then a launch at the end. But, but I'm saying I could see it being something like that, is what I'm saying. It's just like a bunch of different stuff. What was that? 13 minute time cap. That would. Probably fit within what they have. It would have to be something like that, I think. What if I would laugh?
So hard it's not going to happen, but if it was like Flash. From the past. Event 10/20/18 it will be the last event. Something like that. Hell is what we programmed. Do it again. I know we've already programmed. I would. Die five of the six movements. But you're going to do them? Again, well listen, I was surprised they had AC2. Bike right after an Echo bike. They did those events back-to-back. Yeah, I know. Different stimulus. Is, but I'm. Just surprised we had a bike in
back-to-back events. Yeah, it's true Women podium. Picks John we'll start with you. Oh this is much harder. I'm. Going to say honestly, I mean the way they've been going, what it is right now. That's what I'm going to call. Claudia. Claudia has surprised. Me this whole time and I just don't think she's going away. I think enough events have happened that we would like unless you just has some like crazy hole that comes up that we didn't know about where like she
can't. She's not great at muscle UPS. Or that might be ring muscle up higher volume. But you know what? I I mean, it had to be like a. Bad a bad hole though like like a lower horror handstand push up hole and I don't think in this field it will show you might bring muscle up we haven't seen we haven't seen handstand push ups. Yet or handstand walking right? No. So there's a problem you. Know a good. Chance Handsome is going to be
anyway. I think I'm going to call this Karan, Fred, Claudia, Gluck, Elisa Fuliano. I feel like y'all are going to pick Fuliano to jump her, but that's what I'm going to call. I've heard that. Dahlstrom is in lane 8:00 tomorrow, so I'm not sure how that's a good joke, Alfred. I'll give you that one. That was great. I hope she is. If she's in late. Eight. You're kind of like, oh, Jason, that would be somebody should just. Sabotage that runner.
Just for the sake of story. That's all I want. Pay, pay, pay Dahlstrom under the table. So that way, like everything's kosher. But I think, yeah, I think it's going to be Freova Fuliano and then I think Bleeker jumps into third. And I have no basis for that argument. You don't even know who Bleeker is. It doesn't. Even say her first name she's it's a. Great name, Nord. And she's going to do it. I'm using myself on logic.
On this one, I like this name. I don't think it's a Jewish name, but I like the name none the less. Bleeker, Go beat. I'm a. Team Bleeker. I think Lisa. 'S going to pass, Claudia, but hang on to 3rd. I'm rooting for you Claudia. They don't. Believe in you. I'm rooting for you. I see fire in your eyes. It's not that I don't believe in her, It's that I. Believe. Do you believe in? Her. Do you believe in her more than Jorge in time? Oh yeah. She's going to the games next
year, probably. See I I can't, can't. I can't go that far, but I do think you can go see a second at the game's Claudia, What flag is that? Where? Which one? Blakers what's? Her first name? Norte. Norte, do you? Know the flag, Brian? You want to make guesses. Before we look it up, Norway, I'm going to. Say Dutch. I think it's a Dutch. Black No, it's not Dutch. Nether that in the Netherlands? Norway. Western wind, here we go it is. It's not Norway. The Netherlands. Whoa. Let's.
Go oh. No shortcuts. So she's Andre Huday athlete. She's not quarter finals or semifinals 3. Years in a. Row So who? Who? We looking at Norta. Norta. Norta Bleeker. Norta. Norta, if you have a nickname. Norta please. Like DM1? Of us, so we can just. Call you this nickname. Whatever you call her, I'm. Going to call her. No. All right, let's. Cut off everything else before we get off of this. Barkley's begging for a shout out because he said Claudia Gluck was going to do good.
So good job Barkley. Great call. Claudia's killing it. I hope she hangs in there. Nortia, Nortia. Jonathan don't know. Yeah, he don't. Want to have a Spanish name on here? Tell us how to say a a a Dutch name. He's rolling, you know, he's rolling that. R So he's not spelling it the way or he's not saying it in here. Oh, he's saying. Yeah. All right, guys. Oh yeah, he. Just holds that card. On us he's 4. Fair enough. Unless they unless they've updated the. Leaderboard right now, yeah.
That's it. No, stay tuned. Maybe they'll have to. Update the show. Tomorrow I am not getting up at 4:00. AM but? I'll do it again. Let's go. I'll do a post. Show I was going to get up live. Stream Fit Fest but they now we can go like after like events. Like just like at 8, like after one of the events, but not the last event or something. And we'll do stay tuned, we'll see, we'll see if we. They have a break, or if they just go straight into it, they're pretty bad about letting us know.
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