The following program is a collection of dudes talking about the happenings in the CrossFit world. It is meant to be comedic, informative. The opinions, especially those of JY, do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of others on the show. If you take things out of context, please reconsider watching. Enjoy the show. Welcome to the spin, October 16th. Man, that was a quite the introduction, wasn't it? How? Much that cost you? Weird. I don't. Dave and I are tight so you never know dude.
Nice hat. Thanks man, this is going to our one and only Augustus link. The winner? The winner of Crash Crucible Yeah, I was. I ordered some different hats and wanted to test some out and I got this one and I was like, I like it, so I'm gonna send it to Gus this. It's very Celtics vibe, yeah. To it pretty good, right? I thought about doing the stupid upside down text but I was like no, let's just go straight up and down. Oh man, Gus, this is in the chat. He he did very well.
Yeah sorry I guess this pre used my fault. No hair will be in this hat though. That is true. Let's see, JY is your everything Everything working? Yes, Sir, let's get it going. I am sick. I apologize if I sound bad. It's because I'm sick. But we're getting better. We're. On Oh, you're like, you're up here sick. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm not, I'm not all messed up like you. I was all down here sick. No, I'm I'm much worse. I have the man cold which is basically one step from cancer so.
What did you guys get into when you were down there in South Carolina? I think mine was a bad batch of Popeyes. I was not a part for that, so don't do not ask. Fried chicken. I saw JY eating pizza so he kept his diet up. That's right, I'm. Surprised he got sick with all that health food. It's all about consistency. Listen, I have AI have a disease, OK? Before we get started, we're going to go into some viewer comments. We got some Crucible crashers
you might make. You might make more sense here in a little bit. The Dubai debacle. We got a new game for you sub 15. I'm excited for this game. I think this is going to be the most fun game that we do. I hope we like. I don't know how much we're going to do it, but I think this will be the most fun game, at least for us.
We got we got we're adding to our repertoire of different games we can play each week and then we'll talk a little bit about teams and going down under before we get started, I do want to point out if you have not seen it yet, a little bit behind the scenes of Tear Cup at Tier 1 of loses Socal. I'll just start off with a very short clip. If you haven't seen it, let's just say practice makes perfect. I think they they practiced like your.
Your intro on your your your behind the scenes stuff is great. It's one of my favorite intros. What the that that that little red? Screen. Yeah, that's I. It's so clean. I am a professional over here, that's for sure. That's for sure. All right, before we get into viewer comments, we do need you guys to do a little bit of a view comment. So we need to, we need to add a poll who should do the guessing, So Tyler and John. The game involves guessing and clue giving. Yeah.
So you we need you to pick. The you know. I'm not, I'm not. We need you to pick a guesser and a clue giver. That's it. So the poll is going to be who should be the guesser and then the other person will be the clue giver. Is that fair, Ryan? That's good. That's good to say. So let's play a little game. Tyler or John will give out the clues and the other one will do the guessing. So you're going to you're going to do the poll, We're going to say who should do the guessing.
It is live now. So when we get to that, we will see who does that. So all right, viewer comments. Honestly, a little disappointed in you guys. There weren't that many to choose from, but we'll make do with what we do have. Michael Jordan was in the comments this week. I did not pick his though first. Stop it, John, you muted yourself. Keep muting yourself, sorry. I don't want people to hear me
like sniffling. Actually got two of them from Mr. Colby Stevens. First one, do you guys think that Yonokoski being at the games would have changed the overall winner? No. No. Would Yonah have been pretty good at this year's games? Yes but not he would have been like top 10 somewhere. But still, four of the top five men were all over 6 foot 1. You know, because he's not over 6 foot 1. He would have done well, but honestly, I think he would have finished where he would have
finished in any regular games. I think he would be like 6th or 7th place. Yeah, I was going to say 6th. OK, Colby Stevens now moves on to Crash. P Score and Crash are legit. Would love to see a series like was mentioned post competition where points accumulate. Would make for a real season. I missed that part, so you have to fill me in on what you guys were talking about. Oh, don't worry about it. It's in talks. You'll know when you. You'll know when you're needed.
OK, All right. Well, I'll just be here reading off fewer comments. That's fine by. The way Tyler your Instagram real I thought was really well done. I thought it was it was a bunt at best. I I threw it together because I was like getting so many questions and I was like, I got to do something J Rs getting bombarded.
No one understands this. And then I listened to to Seb on show on the way home and they butchered it and I was like, all right, I got I got to correct the correct the, the, the, the the mark here. So I put that out. It's decent. It just. Try to understand it. Like you'll understand it. Yeah, You know what I mean? Lately, if you can't just look at numbers in a slope and be like, I can't do math. You know what I mean? You can't, like, tune out. If you try to understand it, you'll get it.
So yeah, Tyler, you didn't. You didn't put it on heat 1. No, I do. Well. So I always thought about it as this is that P score is separate from heat. 1PP score is me, whereas heat 1 is me and Adam, you know what I mean? So. Try to Adam did not approve this message. No, I actually had the same thought of doing something similar. So I mean, basically if you see this this graph, what Tyler is doing is he's taking Chris Ibarra's fastest. He got first place in this
event, midline sadness. And Ben Sexton got the midpoint. So he was the middle athlete. So I guess out of 27 he'd be #14 And then Tyler does the crazy math and he draws a line from Chris through Ben and until it hits zero points. And based on where your time falls on that line is how many points you get. And the gap between 150 is the gap that is used from 50 to 0. So if your time falls behind that gap, that's how you get negative points.
Right. I thought about using an example that went negative that way I could show it. I have a really good one for for the females on midline sadness because they there was several that went negative there. There's just a, there's a good. Place to start, don't confuse everybody like this is the basics. If you suck really bad in an event, you get negative points. Turns out that there goes. Did you, you had talked about because you just did it -1 negative two -3 right?
If you were outside that, how bad would somebody afford? Did you do any of that analysis like somebody would I -? 50 points. I didn't. I mean if you give me 5 points. There was a person who was going to be -123 points. Yeah, on my. Sadness. Let me just do it for the girls real quick. It's, I mean, like I was happy that we went with it the way that we did go with it because I think it just disincentivizes you to continue playing.
But like, not to shout out Mary Porter, but I am friends with Mary Porter and I think. She's Sentinel athlete. Yeah, she's a Sentinel athlete. With the other Porter, are they are they related to the other two porters? No, but they go. They they both live in Saint Louis, which is wild. And then but anyway, I talked to her about it and it was like a building, you know, she's learning how to compete as an individual. She's been a team athlete at semifinals before.
So she was using it as a learning experience. So she while she wanted to do better, she still wasn't too upset that now she she was like, now I know where I match up with these girls so I know where to. And she was like, not only do I know where I match up with them, I know how far I am behind them, which was good. So least amount of points that would have been earned on the female side would have been -320. And that's why. And that means you don't belong here.
That's why we didn't do it. I won't say you don't belong here. Your your fitness from the top, top half of the group is just that much farther away. But I mean like, still Mary's hell fit. Yeah. Yeah, just not compared to Brittany. Tyler Now I think if this was used for the games now, I would love to hear your opinion.
I I mean, if it was used for the games, I think you, I think you have to let it go. As negative as it's going to get, you can't bail people out with -1 negative 2, you know what I'm saying? I hinted to that in the post that if you were at because of the disparity and and difference in athletes that crash it's I think it is acceptable to use the -1 negative 2 system. And I and I agree.
But if you're at semifinals, we're testing for who the fittest on earth is. I'm If you need to get spanked, we need to spank you. Well, and it's unfair for you to get -1 and then you kill everything else, and then you're in it, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, Jake Smitling. So 14th place always gets 50 points. Yes. No, not. Always. Is it not always, not always? Is it pretty close?
It depends on how many athletes. So if there's an even number of athletes in the field, it splits the difference. So it'll be like what it's the mean between? The women had 20-30, the women had 28, so it was 14 and 15th average average, right? And then in the men it was 27, so it was always 14th got 50. The middle placement will always get 50 points. Yeah. Sousa said heard that the Peace Corps causes athletes mental health problems. It's all part of the game.
It's all part of the game. He also said that everything's going to be online next year, so who knows. Never know. Never. Know, I heard, I heard Sousa's the most manipulative man in CrossFit. No, that's Mitch. Oh yeah. Oh, Mitch. At Flip Flop, every time you bring up the PFAAI got a Fast forward. We get it, you don't like it. Bye. But it also doesn't really apply to you guys. Just my thought. I always enjoy the show, otherwise nothing. Applies to us, we're commentators.
No, we're not. We're. Analysts, everything, everything applies to us. I thought about CrossFit and that's a lot of. People let me know that I wasn't a commentator this weekend, Tyler. I don't know that I'm either just to do it with opinions. There's no PFA talk this week other than this comment. Hey, we can. We can disagree on what we think the PFA's role should be within the sport, but I would also disagree that we are not. Doesn't apply to us. Technically, the PFA only
applies to about 130 athletes. Well, of the ones who said that they wanted to be involved. The ones that have the opportunity to be involved if they want to so. I called my brother from time to time and I asked him hey I need an opinion and he'll just start rattling off opinions. I think that's what this show is. You're close enough. It's not the opinion you wanted, but it's the opinion you're getting. That's right. I just give you the correct opinion. I don't, I don't.
I don't know what everybody else is doing, but that's what I'm doing. And the last comment at Bro Doc Derek Spicy is the worst CrossFit slang ever created. I don't, yeah, but. I didn't know that. And when you do a spicy mech on, you're like that, that kind of just hits. I I don't know. I didn't know that was created by CrossFit. Yeah, that's not a, that's not an HQ endorse.
It's not box or water. Yeah, that's that's, I mean I. Feel I'm not sure if fire breather was technically exclusive to CrossFit either, but. Before we move in from, move on from your comments, John, I think this is a good one. I don't know the answer to this. How'd you come up with Boost? Received, Lydia. Literally as I was saying it. Perfect. Yeah, that's good. Listen, I I would say like 50% of the stuff that I say like hits really, really good.
And the other 50% are like, what are you talking about? It's all just off the top of my head. It's not nothing's rehearsed ever. The first time we did The Mountain, I know a lot of people thought I rehearsed that. That was completely as I was talking. I was trying to think of stuff as I was saying it. But yeah, it's it's pretty good, isn't it? Booster seat Lydia. I liked it. That's why you're the senior analyst. She's. Really good at BS ING things. You guys ready for some Crucible
awards? A little bit of award show Let's. Do it, man. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited for to see what you guys said. Yeah, crashable Crucible crashers. Crashable cruisers. Crashable cruisers, that's. Right. It's hard. It's hard to say. All right. As I kind of teased in the story, these are a little bit different than you might be used to. So the first award. By the way, before we the the actual award ceremony, did we even do it? They set up boxes and I never saw.
Anybody. It wasn't. I guess they did it there. Were photos There were. Photos. Checks and we're like, hey, let's take a picture. And then there was not really an award ceremony. They're like, get up there, here's your checks. They took a picture and that was it. I kind of wanted. Jr. didn't want to highlight that he gave more money to the dudes. That must have been why.
That must have been why. I kind of want to commentate it and be goofy or like just at the end of the day, we're just losing all control and just commentate over top of it. But we didn't make it that far. Will wanted to go home. Yeah, we'll just packing up. You didn't. Jr. wasn't paying him overtime, so it was out. I get it all right. The first award, it is the Ricky Bobby Award. It goes out to the athlete who came out a little too hot to start an event.
Tyler, we'll start with you. I think my. Who goes Who gets the Ricky Bobby Award? I think my choice is the obvious choice and this award 100% goes to Tannerville as he gambled the whole weekend. He would come out and he screwed up on 2 events in particular. And if it hadn't been for those two events, he would definitely, I think would have been top five. And like he cost himself big points. But I mean like people don't realize that's what that's what
Peace Corps is about. Like we want to see how much he got and Tanner went at it wholeheartedly and I got to appreciate it for him. That's why we love Ricky Bobby. He did, he did. And I think well, it's worse than being not being top five or, or whatever.
I think he said did himself a huge disservice because that event that he messed up on was before 2 events that he was going to do really well on. And you think about this, if he, he beat Taylor and Chris and the jump rope event and he was right there with them or beat them, either right there with them or beat them in the handstand push up workout. I want to say he beat them in that one too. But I, I'd have to go back and see if he was in the final heat.
And even though they were having that race, he was beating everybody. It would have been him, Colton, and then Taylor and Chris, just the notoriety, the notoriety he would have got, the coverage he would have got. I mean, Taylor and Chris were watching that battle the whole time. They're obviously, you know, one's a games athlete, 1's has the talent to be one just hasn't yet. And for him he would have been ahead of both of them. He did mean.
He beat both of them in both of. Those in both workouts right in that back-to-back you imagine the coverage and the notoriety he would have got had he been in that top he and he would have been if he didn't take that risk in that moment didn't happen. It's unfortunate. I think I think that's more of an unfortunate thing than not being top five, you know what I mean? Right. Yeah, that that was the one hard thing.
It's obviously it's, you know, in a gym, but when you have heats of five or six, you know, when especially in this type of program where there's some, you know, niche things where somebody who might be in 8th or something like that could easily win an event if it wasn't Colton's wheelhouse. You didn't. You didn't get to kind of show that against Colton or Taylor. Right.
My my Ricky Bobby award goes to Brittany Weiss because not just one event, she would come out hot on almost all of the events. It always felt that she was coming out too hot. And Angelo di Chico, he was on the commentary a couple times. He knows the team athletes way better than we do. And even he he was like this feels this feels a little hot and and she would just hold on. And I mean.
She would slow down a little bit, but she would be ahead of everybody that it just her slow down was never enough for them to make a move and get ahead of her. And she would win her heat. Like she won three events in her heats, right? She won three heat of her heat wins. And it was just really impressive because I just I felt like she went out hot and I'm like multiple times where like, this is not going to go good. And then she just held on. It was very Fraser esque, like
Matt Fraser would do that. He'd just go out hiring everybody and then be and then just pace off the rest of the field. And then if somebody caught him, he could put it on The Jets at the end, right, because he was catching his breath while they're trying to catch up and he's fit enough to get away with it. Nobody else is really fit enough to get away with it. And that's that felt like she did that every single event.
And you know, Ricky Bobby, his his his greatest catch phrase is if you're not first, you're last. Well, she was first and that's how I felt she was the whole entire weekend. So that's my Ricky Bobby award. Goes to Brittany Weiss. I'm giving it to Carolyn Prevo for pillgatory going unbroken on the on the pill thrusters and then 31 unbroken chest of bar to start it off. Not sure it paid off. But. So y'all went the negative route. I went the positive. Route it was.
Ricky Bobby comes out on top. Y'all just talking about his story. Ricky Bobby's story is because he fell so far and he rose back up. That's why we love Ricky Bobby. It was a fun race to watch her, like got so far ahead and then it was like, uh oh, uh. Oh. She still did find that she was top 4 I think. He also had a moment in the ring muscle of workout and like we were talking about her and she couldn't hear us but it felt like she was.
Like. I was like me and Bill both both were saying, oh man, she's resting a long time. I don't think she's got this set on broken and ring muscle UPS. And then she it felt like she looked over to us and was like, no, I sure don't. And and and she was just smiling because she couldn't go unbroken at that moment. But it looked it felt like she hurt us when when we said that. And it was, I mean, that was a a really cool moment.
I heard her talking on Clydesdale about it, like that was her plan, like she wanted to go unbroken but take more rest on the backside of that. And not not to like pat ourselves or myself on the back, but it felt like because athletes knew that the props existed and that they knew us and they knew what we were kind of gunning for them to do. They like taunted us or went tried to do those things. And I thought that was super unique.
I mean, like there's no, there's no real like danger if they they don't pull it off because it's crashed like there, it's not the next part of the season. So it's time to play, it's time to do stuff. But that felt really unique and really. Cool. It felt intimate, you know what I mean? And you don't you don't get that in in regular competition. Yeah, I just tell the story I'll tell. Ah, wait. We'll wait till we'll wait till we get to something else and I'll tell this story.
It's really funny though all. Right, the next award. Wait, who do you pick? Who'd you? Oh, you pick Halepreem. Yeah, Halepreem all. Right, All right, next award. All right, the next one is the kicking and screaming award to the athlete whose competition did not go as expected. John, we'll start off with you all. Right. My kicking and screaming award goes to none other than Nick Matthew. It just felt like he was kicking and screaming the whole time, man.
There was a lot of times where he would complain to the judges. And you know, what's funny is the entire competition, it just felt like like we're watching Nick and he looks slow and not saying I'd be faster before you troll, but but you know, he looks slow and and this whole time, like me and Bill and Tyler, I like we're all like, you know, he's he's fitter than this. Like he just he doesn't look
like he's here, right. And he what's funny is he ended up 6th place that's not far off where a lot of people had him. But I think top four would have been where everybody would have been somewhere in the top. 4 the whole week, the whole weekend, he just, it just looked like nothing went right for him and he's shaking his head a lot. He doesn't look in it a lot. So I'm going to say the competition did not go as expected for him. Still got 6 play 6th place.
That's not bad. But yeah, hit my kicking and screaming award goes to Nick Matthew. I am going to also ride this train of Nick Matthew because he did object to most of the scores that existed that weekend. I think he objected more than any other athlete. I'm a bash on him a little bit here. He did not seem like he was having. He was like, obviously the only one that crashed who was not having a good time. And that, like, consider Mary Porter deserved 3 negative 300 points.
Like, she's straight up should not have been having a good time. And she was still smiling. And Nick Matthew is kind of pouting around. So yeah. So my kicking and screaming award also double S to Nick Matthew. So he's not a fan of the P score. I He wasn't a fan of Crash Man. He was. He was. I mean the rumor is he has a bad shoulder but. Yeah, but you signed up for the competition. You can't. You can't do an event. And and pal.
If you, if you have a, if you have an injury and you're not going to compete as well as you would hope or should or feel like you are able, don't be upset about it. Like just go have some fun then, right? Like, at least that's how I would think you should approach it. I'm giving this award to Carolyn Stanley. I was about to say you already said Carolyn. Yeah, it's a difference. Carolyn. Carolyn Stanley, 8th place, 3 events outside the top 10. Yeah.
If anybody was should have been on the podium, I thought it should have been her. I don't think she was dealing anything. It just, I don't know if it didn't line up for her or what, but. A lot of people picked her to win it. Yeah, I mean, she was one of the. Was she the only from the games this year in the field? Kyra Milligan. Kyra. Yeah, that's it. But that, I mean, obviously fee's been there before, Caroline's been there before.
Britney's been on a team. So this isn't like the Dundys where you only get one award. You can get multiple words at the at the spinnies. No, no, no, Stanley. He did Carolyn Prevo before. Oh, Stanley. Stanley, not Privo. Sorry, I heard Carol. I did that all weekend too. I just kept hearing Carolyn and it's like, yeah, I know Prevo. And it was Stanley. Yeah, I I was hoping. I thought she was going to keep. I thought she was going to pull it off.
And then it's just like every time, it was just going the wrong way. I don't know that we can do this. I think this is off limits. I don't know. I'm not calling. Listen, I know Fee I the high rocks. I did this week. Her husband also did it. Did he do it? Yeah. He. That's cool. Yeah, it's my shock, y'all, He's a better runner than I am. Yeah. No, no, it was great. I was actually very happy there was somebody else that did it that wasn't like, you know, one of the fittest people in the
world. So it was nice to have somebody you know next to you in some of the implements. The next one next award is the Blades of Glory Award. This is the weekend of Fire Nice, the athlete who had the most ups and downs. I'll start this one. I'm giving it to Miss Olivia Curstetter. 1/5 a fifth, a first, a 19th, a 5th, 11th, 21st and a fourth. All over the board she was. Either it's the definition. She was either in contention or well outside of contention and
she ended up 6th overhaul. I mean when you go from 2nd to 12th, be happy that you climb back up to 6th, 7th, 7th. 7th yeah, she was just all over the place. I mean when you when you're what you said second and then she drops all the way to 11th and one event. 12th, She stopped at 12th in that event, yeah. Yeah, that's up and down for. Sure, I remember that she got three points in an event. It was crazy. That's what happened, yeah. With three points skits. Yeah, right.
Tyler. I'm going to go with Carolyn Stanley because she first event Hunter points knocks it out of the park, followed by the 2nd place event where she got 13 points and then she got AI mean. She must have felt great that first event like yeah, I got this huh. This is my. Place the the P score. I love it for that. The fact that we can get things like that, like like you get like you don't get that very
often in like game scoring. Like I mean you get you get people who hit their home, like you know, the Yonakowski's of the world of the Jordan Troyans back in the day, but just the ultra shift back and forth. It's just ridiculous. There's just so much of it and, and obviously the fittest rise to the top. One thing that I enjoy and I don't think people look enough into this, is that the game scoring, when you compare it to the P scoring, it is it does not, it does not shift that much.
They actually shake out fairly close to each other where nobody's getting robbed, nobody's supposed to be second place and they got eighth, you know what I mean? They might get 4th, but it's not like ridiculously different. They're all in the same tier. You just get these shifts though, and then it ends out balancing out in the end and I think it's beautiful. 100 points and then 13 points. That's rough. Not only 100 points, but 13
points over the next place. So it's like it was a hell of a margin in a, in a workout where everybody's separated by like 3 1/2, four minutes. Most people were separated by three and a half, 4 minutes. She had a 32nd lead. Yeah, no, it was similar to Taylor and Colton on that workout. I think Taylor and Colton were a little bit more, but it was very similar to their gap.
And when they did their thing in that first event, people were like, Oh my God, like, like they were like, what the freak did they just do? And I don't think Carolyn Stanley gets enough credit 'cause she basically did the same thing. It was just slower women's field versus men's field. Yeah, who gets the Blades of
Glory award for you there, John? My Blades of Glory award is going to Kyra Milligan because she if we, if we think of the movie Blades of Glory, I know it's I said up and down is the definition for them for that, for this award. And Olivia Kerstetter, I think fits this narrative more than anybody else, especially when you just read up those stats. But the the movie of blades of Glory, they they, they hit a down patch, right? They, they don't get to do the
Olympics anymore. One of them is drunk in a ice sex Capade outfit, you know, and it's just a bad time. But like as the movie progresses, they get better. They're not having as bad of a time. And then they end out on top. And though Kyra Milligan didn't end up on top, but she it felt like her she had a very good last day and like she just progressively got better throughout the weekend and it just the week didn't start as
well as she would want. And then she progressively got better and then ended up 4th place and I think in regular game scoring she would have been second place. So Fire and Ice have a weekend. I'm going to. I'm giving it to Kyra Milligan. Yeah, she was very quiet early on. Like almost like a like nobody ever was really talking about her, I don't think. She was never in the final heat. She wasn't, no. She started out in the third heat.
Wasn't even. There was a time we were commentating and she already went. That's how bad she started out. She wasn't even in the bottom 3 heats. That's rough. Kiefer caught me while I was walking around and he was like, Peace Corps is screwed over Kyra. And I was like, how he goes, she's not going to get any camera time. He's like she's going to be outside of the heats where you guys have the cameras on. And I was like, sorry, David, that's tough.
Man, that's, that's tough. You know, I don't feel bad for you, but that's tough. Yeah, I mean, like she'd been great to have the camera on. We wanted the camera on you if. If the events had been in reverse. Would have been great. What? What? Well, here's the thing. Events would have been reversed. The weekend would have progressively got worse. Right. She would have at least had it. She would have had at least a
couple. Days. Yeah. Yeah, the next award is our Semi Pro award to the athlete who has not made it to the Games, but we cannot wait until they do. Tyler, we'll start off with you. I think this one's obvious. It's Lydia Fish I she's great in front of the camera. She like talks the most subtle shit you ever seen. And and the thing that I loved about watching her was she absolutely sold out. She knew she had to. She knows her weaknesses and she
still gives it her all. And that last moment where she she thought she lost third, she thought she fell out of podium. And she like before the weekend started, I said, what's, you know, what's really the goal? And she's like, I'm just here to execute, just want to do as best as I can do. I'm not really worried about placement. I'm just here to have a good time, time and do my best.
And then soon, as, as soon as she knows podiums where she's at and she thought she fell out of it, emotion just started streaming down her face. That is like everything to me. So yeah, Lydia gets the Semi pro award. John. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think Lydia Fish gets my semi pie, my semi pro award as well. You think I mean she has, I would say she is the most potential out of anybody that was at Crash and I'm pretty sure
I said the same thing last year. I think I said last year that Crash was her coming out party. The field is way better this year than it was last year and and look where she finished, right and a way different programming. But you think of who won it last year, Lindsay Lane. Where did Lindsay Lane end up this year, Tyler? 9th place, yeah, I think 9th place, yeah. Lydia Fish was second or second or third the majority of the competition and then lost it in the very last event and ended up
4th place. Tafi Segaffi, a veteran Games purse performer, right? Yeah, I like, I I'm really excited for the future of Lydia Fish. She needs to put on about 10 to 15 lbs. The second I would just be feeding that girl peanut butter, man, just feed her peanut butter every single day. Like I tell you this man, like there there is. I don't know anybody that can execute a pacing game plan as good as her. She would be behind the field the majority of the competition or the of the event.
Every single time the last round, she would come out on top somehow like she she's an extremely good handstand Walker and Nina Brogovic came out like a freaking bat and just just just the fastest handstand walks this side of Matt Rutte and and she just caught her like and then the freaking deadlift workout to give was it was Britney, wasn't it? She gave Britney a scare. Britney's ahead the entire time and then for her to do the deadlifts almost unbroken.
She went ten and three in the last deadlift set. I mean, she just, not only does she execute her pacing so well, she has a racer's mentality. Like if she's in a race, she does really, really good and most of the time comes out on top. And that's, that's something really important. That's something Hopper has. Like if you're in a race, Hopper does better if he's racing somebody and she has perfect pacing and has that racer's mentality. She just has to get stronger.
She has everything you could want except root strength and on. And I mean, she's tiny. She's a little bitty girl. She needs to put on 10 lbs and, and I mean I think 10 lbs. She makes the games. Nuggets an Oval team. Honestly, Travis, it's not the worst idea. You know I I'm telling you, she eats. A 20 piece and 1/2. Gallon of Oval team every single day. I bet you she puts 15 lbs in her snatch. How much you want to bet? How much do you want to bet now?
Now she might not be able to run as fast, but that's not what's holding her back. You know what I mean? And she's only 20 years old. She's only going to get better. I'm telling she is 10 lbs of muscle away from making the games and being dangerous. Dangerous. She's my semi, my semi pro award. All right, well, we do not have a clean sweep. I got you Augustus and JC. My semi pro award goes to Taylor Self. Makes sense. I'm not going to argue with that pick.
No, I I honestly, I'm surprised Tyler didn't pick that. If he if he would go to the games and have the same amount of fire, like my only concern is that he makes to the games and wants to be like it. It's so important that he doesn't kind of let loose, right? But if he would let loose and do what like he did to Ibarra and stare him down and walk off to the bike, like if he had some of those moments in the games with that many eyeballs on him like.
Oh, he would be bigger than bigger than any. Problem. The problem is you're going to stare down somebody for 11th place, you know what I'm saying? I think Taylor's got some stuff. He could be in the top. That's the problem. They only one event. Also this one. Doesn't matter. Yeah, it didn't matter. 20/20/21 Danielle Brandon flipping off the crowd. She won the event. Skyrocket her to Yeah, but Taylor could win an event at the game. He can win the endurance event.
But also he doesn't have to be first place Colton. Was in first and it was the trash talk between Chris and Taylor. Had nothing to do. Really. Yeah, No, no other. I'm 100% I agree with what y'all are saying. But he would need to do that to somebody like Ricky. It would he would need to do some. He would need to like win the event or be close to winning the event and do it to something like. That doesn't have to be the same thing.
Like it just his attitude and, and I don't, I don't even want to say showmanship because I don't think he was trying to do it for a show. But like that emotion, you don't see it very often. Oh he could. Like they could be in the middle of something crazy like flipping a pig or something. He could turn over, scream at Ricky as hard as he could like live on camera and then flip the pig again, lose the event and no one would give a shit.
All's they would think about is the scream, you know what I mean? They just want to see that emotion on his face or like turn over, look at Ricky and shit talk and then flip this pig again. Yeah. I agree. I agree with that. Yeah, that would be, I think it would just be refreshing to have more of that. And and like, it was kind of funny because they everybody was talking about how how much trash talking was going on at Tierra Water Palooza Socal. There's there's a difference.
Trash talking at Waterpalooza is like hey John you're you're dumb. Yeah, I'm faster than you know what. That is, that's Canadian trash talk. That's what that that's what that is. That's what that is. Yeah, so I I like to see Taylor there next one, the Stranger than Fiction award to the athlete whose fitness and placement just does not make any sense. John, we'll start with you. All right.
And and for this award, it's what like one event like they should have done much better or they should have done much worse and they did really good. We didn't expect it. And I think there's no person that identifies with this award more than Olivia Kerstetter in the back-to-back events. Olivia Kerstetter, What does she get in the handstand? Push up workout? Tyler? One second calculating handstand push up was Lyman. 'S 4. Right, she got. 11th. Lyman's Sprite, yeah, that's handstand.
Push up was second or first in that. Order. No, sorry, she got 5th. Yeah, she got. 5th in it. Yeah, yeah, I know. She. She got an 11th, yeah. And she did. Three and three on the hand. They have to say handstand push ups every single time. She did three and three and she would do this weird thing where she's freaking kipping these strict handstand push ups, but she's doing it in a way where they still count with the standard, but she's popping those hips.
And it was it was I had AI had a little side bet with her coach and it was driving me crazy that she's able to like get away with this. But she did. She got fifth in the handstand push up workout and then 11th in a biker workout. That's just biker and drag rope double unders. And it's not like she's bad at the drag rope double unders. Freaking Caitlin Sanders was
taking her to school on a biker. And I thought Olivia was one of the best women in the world when it comes to machines and just for her to do that bad and the biker workout and then do that good and the handstand push up workout, it was one of the most unexpected things it made. Me. Yeah, It made me just like doubt my ability as a person who's can call events, right, who can call people as an analyst. It made me like doubt, like everything that I pride myself
on being. And I was like, I'm just not going to try to predict anything that Olivia does anymore because. Go ahead, spin. I think the bike erg is probably the one machine that is different than the other ergs when you think about good at machine. Yeah, right. Because like Colton. Came off 1st. He's not good at the rower. He's you. Say that he came off first in the ski too. I think Colton is so much better at machines than people think.
So much better. He may have gotten better at it, but I think the bike erg is one thing where it's not the same. Right. Especially in short. Durations like it can be, but I think it you can have a different like there could be other people in there that are much better at it than you would say compared to the rower or the echo bike. Who's the best rower slash echo bike person? Jason? OK, who's the best at the biker? Jason. There you go. I I, I don't, I still.
But again, I'm not saying you. It's the opposite, Colton. Hang on the lower right. There's no way Colton can hang. On the there's no lever can hang on the bike. There's no lever advantage on the biker. There's a weight advantage, though. Slightly, but again, Colton doesn't have that much of A disadvantage there. I think Colton getting for I think you're doing Colton a disservice by saying that it's it's not as like the other machines.
I disagree completely. Jason Hopper's the Best Buy Kirk person in the world in the CrossFit world by far. Roman is probably second. You know who's probably third down? We're not. Arguing that we're arguing others ability to make difference, right? You can't eat. There is no amount of work that'll Colton will ever be able to do to compete on the rower. But that does not seem to be true on the biker right? Especially in short durations.
That's all it's been saying. And Colton at Crash was great on the skier, but again, you put him up against Roman, he's not going to hold like Romans and get off the way faster. I disagree, I think 1800 is 1800. Anywhere you want to be, 1800 is 1800. Like it's less time, it's less time difference, it's less of a time difference, but it doesn't defeat who comes off 1st and who comes off 2nd. And Colton was distancing his gap on Taylor and Chris. He was distancing his gap,
meaning he's biking harder. He's holding a harder pace than they're holding. You're proving my point. I'm no, no, I'm not. I'm saying like, if you OK, so like if Hopper was there, Hopper would have been holding 1700, He'd be holding a harder pace than Colton and he would be ahead of those guys. It's still a machine. But Colton would have gotten just like the gap in the row versus the gap in the biker is much different. Yeah, but it's still relative to placement.
Like Olivia. We're arguing this for Olivia, right? You're making this argument for a while. I'm saying the bike is not I, I think the bike is. You can't say that. Well, Olivia's good at machine, so I figured she's good at the bike. I don't think it's always the case, and you can't say that Jason Hopper proves that or disproves that. Dude, I mean I. Think like James Sprague is very good at rowing. Uh huh, I bet you I don't get back.
Or but. He's not he's he's probably faster on the row on a 2K row than Hopper and Dallin and Roman. I don't think he is. I think I know what Sprague's 2K is. I know what their two. K is. What do you think Sprague's 2K is? I think it's six O 4 or 6O2. Yeah, and Hopper couldn't beat it. Or Dallin couldn't beat it. Yeah, they were the same though. No, Dowler was a little bit slower. Well, Hopper's a little bit quicker and Roman's faster than that.
Right. And I I don't think that James is even close to them on the biker. I mean James to come in, and I think James is better than you think. I'm not saying he's terrible, I'm saying he's not. He's not going to be as fast or better than Jason. I get OK, we'll just move on. I I disagree. We spend enough time on this. All right, back to what we were talking about. Stranger than fiction, an athlete whose fitness and placement does not make sense, I did not do in a specific event.
I went with the entire competition. You broke the Rose. I picked Jordan Schweck chefs. Jeff. Yeah, she got 21st place and. Oh, you thought she was better than that? I did the last three semifinals. She's gotten 14th, 13th and 14th and to come in with a competition where there's only four or five games athletes, she's probably one of the better semifinal athletes of the field in the take 21st, I would not have expected that. Yeah, interesting.
Not only that, on it meant on the cyclist delight, which I mean is it is ready for somebody to kind of kind of mess up on. She would have taken -34 points so -2 as opposed to yeah or -3034. Yeah, I, I, I'm not saying that she was podium potential, but top ten, maybe even top, like top half of the field at the worst, like to be the bottom. I did. I did not expect that, Tyler.
I picked for the Stranger than Fiction award, Lindsay Lane in Mad Moon. That battle between her and Brittany Weiss in that event was in Fee. It was Fee, that's right. Was insane to watch. It was just head to head and then in the last minute, like Lindsay just couldn't hang on anymore and she dropped and rested. But like also the deadlift, like did not see her be able to hang with the best girls on the deadlift. We knew she was going to be able
to hang on the run. She stayed diligent and like kind of mean on her burpees the whole time. I just did not think she was going to be of all the workouts Lindsay could hang with, did not think it was going to be that that workout, but like thinking about it backwards, like she's a crash athlete. That was probably the most fitness fitness test of the whole weekend. And so, you know, did great on that. I, it was, that was one of the most cool moments.
The whole gym was screaming for her, 'cause she's the crash athlete, home hometown athlete. And the moment she finished it was, it was amazing. So yeah, stranger than fiction goes. That was a fundraiser also. She's very small. She's not big. She's smaller than Fee I think. Oh, they're about the same size. She doesn't weigh as much as fee. There's no way. What you should ask her? Next one, the other guys award. This one's to the athlete who
performed above expectations. Tyler Maximilian Krieg, he didn't get that much coverage, but he ended up I think 4th. Overall. We no one predicted that he was kind of the silent killer all weekend. It was just like he was haunting everybody. Very, very Pantogesque. I thought in the last event he had a chance to make up a a distance on Ibarra and take third. Turns out he didn't have the gas, but I mean like he was right there and striking distance. I remember who was there.
I think it was. Was it this year the overhead squats on the down and back chipper? He failed I think on the last like couple of squats. So he. He was he was struggling on this one too. Right. And so I. Mean he did beat Ibarra in the deadlift workout. Everybody was paying attention to the race between Ibarra and Taylor and he was very sneaky. I think he got second in the whole thing because cause Colton
got first and he was after him. Yeah, I, I'm not, I'm not totally surprised by Krieg. I, I, I mean, he probably outperformed a little bit, but I don't think I would have said he was the that much above expectations. I mean, he's, he was kind of, he's kind of like Jordan chefs where he kind of keeps getting close to the I think he's making it, but he just shorts a little bit.
What's that? I think he's better than Jordan Chefs. I get what you're saying, but I think he's better than Jordan Chefs. Couple years in a row right there on the on the bubble. So, John. My other guy's award goes to Matthias Porter. Same. I have the same. We knew he was a swimmer, we knew he was a semi finals athlete and that he is fit as about. Sounds like sounds like obituary. Mathias Porter. He was a swimmer. I'm not gonna lie, that's all I
knew about him. He got he got 28th in the semi final this past year. OK, so you know. Right. You think about Max, I think he was like 13th or 14th. Yeah, yeah. And listen, Mathias Porter, I did not know he had the home runs that he had. He's now I feel like this was his coming out party this this year because I think First off, I'm going to say somebody asked me about Matthias Porter on the handstand push up workout. He's a little bit taller.
He's slender, long arms, swimmer body, you know, long body. I'm like, that doesn't translate to good deficit handstand push ups. And man was I wrong because that dude had very good deficit handstand push ups And had he paced a little bit better, he would have been like second place, easy, easy, you know what I mean? But so I I think I only said that for the handstand push up workout and I think he took that. He took that for like any workout period.
I said that he wouldn't come top three and he came top three three times. So I have 300 burpees that I owe this man. I am sick. So I'm going to wait till that passes through. But I got to figure out a workout where I I do 300 burpees and I'll call that Matthias, but no swimming. Unfortunately, I can't. Represent, I think you do 300 sick. He just sweat it out. You burn it out of your sick. Hat.
Absolutely not. I don't think I'd really have a bad idea So, but got first on the legless rope climb workout, right? Got first place, man, he just, he was very surprising. I did. He is a guy that has holes, but man does he have home runs and he's somebody that we need to remember on those home run events because I don't think that's the last that we will see of Matthias. Next one Old school award. The veteran who still got it? John. All right, my old school award goes to feast Agafi.
I think she was kind of quiet the whole weekend too, and the last day she made-up a lot of ground, but she made her big move on the last event. And I know she wanted the event when came up like 10 seconds short of the event when but went from like 5th all the way up to 3rd almost second was really close to 2nd. And and yeah, or no, she got second. She went fifth to second. Yeah, she went 5th to 2nd. And yeah, my old school word goes to feast Agafe. I think she's still got it.
I think she can still make the games. Yeah. I am going to pick Brittany Weiss. You might say she's not a veteran. She her first Open was in 2014. Wow, same. She's been in three regional appearances from 16 to 18, once on a team. And now she's had four games, appearances as a team athlete, once as a winner. I mean, she's been doing this for 11 years. Games Veteran Games Spectran. So that's who I'm picking, Brittany Weiss. I was going to pick Fee and then I was like, wait, how long has
Brittany been doing this? More history than Fee. My old school award goes to an actual master. Mackenzie Riley. It was her. No, but. Yeah, I was talking about the individual competition, not the master. No, but her scores hang with she can still hang with some of the the individual athletes. I know nobody watched them. I probably was the only one on our team besides Jr. to really observe them. No, I guess. I guess build it too. But I scored them all.
She still moves great. She still competes great. I mean like she's been in the game a long time. She is master's as kids. It was great to see that she's still fit after all these years. So mine's a little bit of a heartwarming pick, I guess, or a lame pick, but I liked it. I I liked. I liked. Watching them, I remember McKenzie, the old misfit days. Yeah. Next one, the ELF award. This one, the Spirit of Crash. Yeah, I'll start this one off. I'm picking Lindsay Lane from Crash itself.
Why? She's a crash athlete. She won last. She came back. She's the actual spirit of Crash. Yeah, I mean, I think it's cool that she's, you know, trains there compete. No, I and she she hangs in there like, you know, everybody remembers her from the quarterfinals on Sivan show going up against fee, right. And like she hangs in with women that have been at the games, been at semifinals, done much better on that stage and she
comes in and top ten. She outperformed a lot of athletes who would have thought that she would not do as well. And she two years in a row she's been top ten. Last year's second. It's pretty solid or last year she won. Sorry, I like it. I'm thinking I. Like it? Yep. I don't think John likes it, but hey. No, no, I get it. It's a bit of a easy pick, but you know. I'm sorry, John, don't. Think so Who's your pick then? Who's who's next? Is it Amir Tyler?
We'll pick Tyler first. Boy, are you guys going to be mad at me, mine goes. To Jr. No Liz Self. I don't. Yeah, that's the worst pick. I don't think it is. I don't think you got so, Liz. Is Nick would disagree with. You let's let's tell everybody who Liz is. Liz is Taylor's wife, but she's also the head of judging for the competition. The Adrian Bosman of Crash. She's been doing this for four years. I think she treats that thing like a military, like she she
controls everyone. She has to deal with all the complaints and then also she has to deal with Taylor when he she goes home and he's bitching about reps that he miss or reps. Well, they don't talk during the competition. No, they don't. Well, they go. They do when they go home. And for people who were like, oh, Taylor had it easier because he, you know, is married to the hedge judge, I can tell you it's in fact the opposite.
There were calls that probably maybe should have been made for him that were not made So. And she did not. She hated being in this position since she handled it like a champion or professional. And she loves to just help Jr. as much as possible and to make that competition run as well as possible. And so I I noticed it last year, but definitely this year too. I think L Ford goes to Liz. I don't. I don't. I don't dislike it at all. I mean, I know it's not like it.
She's not an athlete. I had not, it's not what I had intended for the award, but but he's not wrong, I think. I think I think Liz does phenomenal in her job and Crash does run very well and she's on top of everything. I could not agree more. And like, the role she has in making that competition run is, is enormous. So I, I, I don't disagree with that at all. My ELF award goes to Maximilian Creek, and let me tell you why. Because he never talked the entire time and Jr.
Jr. also never talks. That's a great, that's a great, that's a great thought. That's a great thought. I also, I also say a character trait of Max. I don't know if I don't know if people have told him this before. He always looks like he's about to break down and like this sobbing just just breakdown. Like when he like his pain face, it just looks like like like, like he's about to just cry so hard. And I mean, he looks like that the whole time.
And then he and then he just and he's just, you know, fitter than everybody. It's it's it's pretty wild, but the reason why I say Max is the spirit of crash. I know Spin, you're kind of down on him, but I, I feel like. You practically said you hated. Him. Yeah. You hate hate. You hate Max Green. I said OK, it's OK. We don't need to go back here. No, no, no. I said what? You said you hate Max Green. I said it's OK. Let me. Let me finish. I had higher expectations of Max
than you did. It's my turn, but for the longest time, for the longest time the Crash Crucible has been billed as like the semi finalist, Semi finalist competition as a gateway to the games. Usually whoever wins Crash will one day go to the Games. If not, they've already been to the games and Max identifies as I've he puts this on his paperwork.
He identifies as a semi finalist athlete to AT and I just thought he was very impressive in this competition, finishing fourth, finishing above some games athletes of the past. I just think his performance at this competition is something that we should look look to in the future as he potentially could make a run at the games if he was 13th in semi finals right Last year spin 13th I. Think so, Something like that. I mean, if you're 13 and 10 or 11 go.
It just wouldn't shock me if he ends up grabbing that last spot this year. Hopefully no overhead squats. If it's well, if it's online, so probably not because that's hard to judge. But no I just a semi finalist who shows a lot of potential to further themselves is what I think of when I think of Crash and that's why I'm picking him as my spirit of Crash as the alpha ward. Bailey, Demena, she, Lizzie along with the all of the judging staff was amazing all weekend.
Everyone who kept the heats running on time did a great job too. Bailey was there, right? Competing. Yeah. Jar Jar Binks, can we talk about Ben Wise's self-proclaimed fittest affiliate owner status? I love self acclaiming titles. He was fit and I think he was a surprise. Nobody was talking about Ben. I don't know. You think he's fitter than Jr. No. Well, hey Rich. Rich owns Mayhem. Right. Doesn't matter, you can acclaim whatever you want. Self self-proclaimed.
I love it. I would like, I would like, I would like, I would like to our friend that Savon who called me senior analyst, it was not me. I just want people to know that it's not. Self, there's a lesson here, because Savon also self-proclaimed. He's the CEO of CrossFit. Proclaim all you want bro. Next award got two more, two more awards, the Step Brothers Award. I want John to go first on this.
I'm picking Chris Ibar and Taylor Self, man, that's who I'm picking I I've picked 2 guys who are kind of polar opposites that one day might become friends. I, I really feel like they're the epitome of good versus evil. Obviously Chris is the evil and yeah, I, I just, I love the back and forth between the two of those guys. I love the back and forth. And it was very like, we didn't expect it. It kind of came out of nowhere. They don't even know each other.
And then they they and it ended up in a little rivalry. And I would love, love for that rivalry to continue. You know what I mean? Very different guys, very different ways about going about things. One has no idea how to trash talk at all and one never stops talking trash. So I just, I, I love, I love that. And The thing is, they're fit in it. Like they're both fit enough that they can. It's not like a given who's going to win every time, you know what I mean?
Like Colton, I think Colton's just better. But like, they're like Chris is better at some things, Taylor's better at some things, you know, and I, I like, I just like that. So don't they're my, that's my Step Brothers award. I'm giving it to them. I took it as the rivalry award, the way what we called this award, though, Step Brothers award. Yeah. I said Chris was the obviously the evil of hoping that somebody would catch that. And neither one of them said
anything. So for as far as the comments go, obviously Chris is the good guy, Taylor's the bad guy. But more people love, more people love Taylor though. So, you know, take that for what you what it's worth. Our criteria for the Step Brothers award was interpret however you want to. That's how I interpreted it. So we'll see how the other two interpret. It Tyler you want to take this next.
I didn't interpret it, but now I'm going to use John's interpretation to interpret it the way John interpreted it. I'm going to pick John Young and Bill Grundler, the step brothers, cuz they're from totally different families, one being the spin cast and the other being get with the programming. And you know, John had never done this before. And Bill held us in and, and walked him through it. And I think, I think John learned a lot and, and got a lot better as the weekend went on.
I, I don't think you were bad at it in the beginning or throughout, but I think John or I think Bill, Bill and yous back and forth was great. So yeah, Bill and John step brothers. You may call me Nighthawk Dragon. I'm going with the route of John and I'm going to say Chris and Barra, almost as if he was a stepbrother to both Colton and Taylor. Like he was walking into like a chemistry that was already there and like how they worked, you know how how they competed
against each other and then. Chris comes in. He was unwanted. Hey, I want to play too. And you're like, no, get out of here. And I thought that was just an interesting dynamic, so. It was no, I could feel that as well. And the final award, the Anchorman Award, the best performance slash MVP, goes to Tyler. I've do we all have the same pick? Yes. We should have just put his face on the on the Anchorman man. Yeah.
Then we don't. It goes to Brittany Weiss for me. Oh, OK, we all don't have this. OK. Dude, she outdid herself. She's the MVP pick. Colton, I don't care. Man, you need a crickets. You need a cricket sound on your soundboard. Dude. See, we need some crickets, man Colton. Won by 78 points. You know how many points she won by 63? It's not that different and the field was deeper. Was it? It was. Colton won four events in a row.
Colton sucks. I think Colton was more dominating, not 1/8 or better every single event. Yeah, what was Britney's total points? 543 versus 663. Yeah, there we go. There we go, There we go. That's fair. Yeah, I I'm giving it to Colton. Brittany won the Old school Old School award. I would love to see Colton as an Anchorman. Can you imagine him trying to
read off a teleprompter? I feel like I feel like he would do good until he'd get tripped up and then I don't know if he's the best adapter in that situation. It would be really really fun to see. I screwed up. The other guy award should have gone to or the Stepbrother award should have gone to Bryson. I didn't close the loop on that joke. Damn it. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. And the Crucible Crashers was based off of Wedding Crashers if you did not catch it.
So all of our awards were real feral things. All right, moving on. Dubai debacle. Debacle. If you guys. Have not been paying attention. Dubai Fitness Championship held an online qualifier that wrapped up two weeks ago. Last week, Something like that and everywhere from Competition Corner to Instagram, said Top 30, no exceptions, no special invites. You must compete in the qualifier to make it to Dubai in December.
And then sometime in the middle of it, they just said, you know what, we're going to invite two men and two women and only invite 28 from the qualifier. Those who got it, Karen Freyova, last year's winner, makes sense. It sounds like Roman was. Roman was going to get it, but now he's dealing with a hip injury. So I think that went to Spencer Panchik, Julia, Julia Kato. I don't like it but OK.
Apparently if you watch the Bee Friendly podcast, Saud and Julia Bett during last year's elimination event and Julia Bett that if she made it to the final heat, I think it was that she would get an invite back to Dubai this year and she did that. Oh, OK. Cool now. Last year it was 100% invite only. What was the other side of that bet? She's banned for life. I don't. Do it. She would have to. That's where the story lives. I didn't get the other half, but anyway, she is.
That's why she got it, apparently. And then John's favorite athlete, Radoon El Gadawini. Why do you say that? I have no, I figured you're just big fan of this Moroccan guy. Huge fan. OK, before you, before you go further, do you want to tell us who the freak that guy is? So this dude is from Morocco. He won the Elfit CrossFit championship in 21 and 22. He is the self-proclaimed 23 and 2024 fittest Arab on Earth. You know how we feel about that. He won the Seashore Phoenix
Games the past two years. Cool. And he got 18th at the 2022 Fittest CrossFit Fittest in Cape Town semifinal. 18th in Africa's semifinal. Self-proclaimed. We are inviting 18th in Africa's semi final. He did not qualify for the 2023 semifinals in Africa, and he did not compete this past. He got a. He got an invite, huh? He got an invite. He did. He did. That same bee friendly podcast
said that. It sounds like that is also Saud's thing is he likes to invite people from the area who are doing well and so this dude is getting to go compete at Dubai. I remember year one I think of Dubai and they basically paid everyone who. Did hold up hold up, 18th in Africa? Does this mean I can beat this guy? Is this, am I in the ballpark of this guy? Probably not. 18th in Africa. Can we look up his scores and see? I'm not sure.
Like like later on, I'm just saying like I I'm no Ruan. I can't keep up with Ruan, but 18th in Africa. That's I mean do. You remember the 2022 African semifinals because those were it's to be a lot, a lot more difficult to do. My, I can I? Yeah, I remember the, the the. Oh my God, it would actually be a marketing genius if they invited John Young. I mean, if they're inviting rule, if they're inviting this
dude, it's not much different. We can make this happen, I guarantee it. Think about you're going to carry with you 3000 watchers at least 100%. Hold on, let me look up these workouts real quick. Yeah, pull up the workouts and then. Start that, Start the campaign. Tyler, if I invited and they invited me with this guy, as long as this guy is also here, I
100% would do this, do that. But like, if I'm not, if I'm this guy and everybody else is like, you know, actually fit, I'm not doing it. And then we're going to have to make bets on if John takes what, what's John's highest placement. What you got to think, dude, there's a lift, man. I'm getting a lot of points on that. I'm getting at least 85 is a lift. Call up Saud, do it the chic. Call up whoever he got.
All right, here we go, the first event, 1000m ski, 5 rounds for time, 100 meter swim, 20 alternating bear hug forward lunges with a. Slam. I'm last in that one, I can't swim. I'm last placing that one. I can't swim. Event 210 rounds for tone. What was he? What was he in that event? Cap plus 39? That sounds like he wasn't very great swimmer either. No, he was not all right. Cool. So we're tied, tied up. Right now next to the event he got 9th and that is the old regional workout.
The 10 rounds for time 1 legless rope climb and run 170 feet. Oh OK, I'm I'm like 550. He's 319, so yeah. I'm not great at legless. Rope climbs event 37 rounds 7 Bring muscle up 7 bar facing burpees 7 Deadlifts at 275. I think I'm doing pretty good in this one. That's not bad. Finished in 14 O. 7 rounds of what? Can you say it again? 7 ring muscle UPS, 7 bar facing burpees. OK. 7 deadlifts at 275 lbs. That's not a that fast workout. No, I think I'm like 12/23. All right, so you're one of
three better than him. Event 4 3 attempts for Max load 3 cleans, 2 front squats, one jerk 100% you got 269. Get out of here, bro. I got 325 on that. What's 325 first place? All right then boom, weak Africa. Oh, freaking weak. On Sunday the chipper are 100 wall balls, 15 meter handstand walk, 75 calorie row, 15 meter handstand walk, 50 handstand push ups, 15 meter handstand walk, 25 toes to bar, 15 meter handstand walk. He got done in almost 16 minutes. All right, I'm going to say he
barely beats me at that. I'm going to say I'm seven, I'm 17 something. And the final workout, This is the 2718 nine of Chestavar pull ups and dumbbell squat snatches at 50 LB. I was hoping it was like 90 LB. And he finished at 5:11. That's hard to say. I think I that's hard to say. I think I'd be all right in that, but like, it's hard to say at time. John has as good as chance as anybody. I haven't got as good a shot as anybody. You'd be in the ballpark, at least.
Fast Daddy was not. That first place finish moves you up the leaderboard. When's the baby do? I mean, we can push it back if we need to. Your 100 points would have gotten 440% of what you needed just on that one bit. So John, we can you would have been, you would have been plus or minus a couple spots, so. I say we campaign. Guys, you cannot use the open as as comparisons for fitness. The open is just cardio. You can't use the open. You look at the open, Yeah, you
use quarterfinals. The quarterfinals are much more indicative. So there, there it is. Man, I hate that. You can actually. They grow better if you do that. You keep them in there longer. Taylor listen, I I graduated nursing school. I I think I. Can I know? I think I can push your baby back. If I want to push your baby back, it's OK. It's it's I don't like it. So do you think that Dubai is moving more towards a local comp than it's been?
In Asheville, No, I mean, I think I mean Gabby Magal was going there. Lucas returning to competition. You have Moritz Feebig. You have Elisa Fuliano. No, it's a legit competition. It's actually better than it was last year when it was 100% invite only. I think Dubai invited a bunch of people and a bunch of people said no and then they were left with the scraps plus a few others. Like I mean Ricky went Roman went freova, but like. After that is big.
They went like invited all of the Invictus team athletes. They, I mean, it was just, it was not as strong as I think it is this year. It's just I feel kind of bad for those that are in the 29th, 30th spot who you know, they're not going to do anything in the competition. But I think you usually get like you're guaranteed at least $500.00 of prize money. It's not that expensive to go there. It's a cool experience. Like to kind of change it midstream.
Yeah, it's a little rough. Yeah, that's and. Some home cooking but whatever, it's your comp do whatever. It is. Yeah. That's that's true. It's his comp. Tell me Crossfit's not. Doing anything. The thing is you can't. Don't put it on there that says do what? Do what? Rogue says and just says we're going to invite. Necessarily the rights. We're going to not. You cannot say you're invited and then take it away. That is that. That is a Dick move.
Saud. I don't care how much money you have, you're a Dick for doing that. Tell him, John. I don't care who. This I bet he no way he sleeps. Today who this Gaddafi guy is this 18th fittest man in Africa? If you're self-proclaimed the fittest Arab then Arabic y'all need to get fit. That's sad. That's sad. 18th in Africa. Are you all right? We need to move on to the next. Topic. 18th in Africa, all right. Keeping it real, Nick Matthew just personed up it's.
About to get a re elected man. OK, all I'm saying 18th in Africa, do better. I want to say that I love the Arabs. All of the Arab nations, the UAE in particular, I love Saud. Thank you. 18th in Africa. Come on Saud, if you're going to, if he does not get last, if he gets last place, you should be sad. Keeping it real, bringing us the the news. Nick, Matthew, some clips from this weekend.
There's always some takeaways, things that were well done, things that could have been better and things that were in or out of my control. Great test and pumped for what's yet to come. He did not look comfortable in that sled push. That's what it was. It was very odd thing to to get used to and a lot of people didn't play with it that much. That looked good. I've always thought like when my shoulders hurt, handstand walk doesn't mess him up very much. A guy can steal handstand walk
pretty well. I mean, yeah. What did he say about it? He's thanks to everybody who came out and those who are consumers who continuously support his journey. All right, well, I'm glad that he might, you know, isn't making excuses or anything. No. That's good on him. I I hope he's better at Fit Fest. Yeah, he will be at Fit Fest Team Rest of the World. We'll talk about that here in the next month or so.
All right, the next game, sub 15, this game, well, let's well, I guess before we do that, who is going to be doing the guessing and who's going to give out the clues? The votes or the votes? The votes. John Young is going to be doing the guessing, Tyler. All right. John swayed the election. I I probably did. I'm sorry, God. It's it's all right. Let's see. Oh, you got to text me? That's right, I got to text some notes. Hang on here. Watch him send it to the group. Don't don't send.
It to. The group Hang on here. Vindicate. All right. I would 100% take funding from any Arab. To explain what this is, Tyler has 15 words. Is that correct? Yes, you can use 15 words to get 8 things. And I have to get, I have to guess, 8 different things from 15 words that Tyler uses. See, he's not allowed to go over 15. Words. Do I get 15 words per no. 15 words, the whole thing total. So if it's like. God, so if it if the word was box, you could say CrossFit gym.
That's 2 words. Dude, I think we're going to be terrible at this. I gave you a topic so you have you have some buffer. The topic is CrossFit Games podium. CrossFit. Oh, that's the topic. That is the topic, so that is not the first. One I I was trying to figure out how to explain great CrossFit Games podium. I heard it, Tyler. I know, but until he said that I was like oh shit, I was. Shit with James podium.
No, that was, that was in. That was the first thing on the list that I. Spent hopefully it's like people and then I can kind of I can. If it's people, then I can probably just, you know, read, read whatever you're saying. So basically you you can have to be under 2 words. Here, do you want to show? Are you able to pull this up? I can look away and you can show the crowd what they what it is real quick. Nope. They're going to play a little. OK. All right. All right, so you get 15 words
total, first one. First one up Pale. These are people who are on the CrossFit Games podium. Graham Homburg. I would say red hair. Patrick Bowner I'm sorry, I I, I, I was thinking that as soon as I said Graham Homburg. 3 words in. Turtle shell. Annie, Thor's daughter. Goat. Matt Fraser. Ding Ding got. It why was turtle shell your first one on that? Annie, you said. Annie Thor's daughter, right? Yeah. Did I get that? Yeah, Yeah. Oh, you got to say when I get it, Spin.
I didn't even know I had it. All right, Spin, I don't. Even know. I thought you knew. We're on spin. You need to say. You need to say yes or no. Three got 3 through 6 words all. Right. All right, shit, this one's hard, Superman. That's one word. That's one word. Ben Smith. Shit, I know I shouldn't have went with that 10. Dude, CrossFit, Krypton. I thought I like that was a genius. I know a great word. Comptrain, same person. It's the same person. Dude, Catherine. Underestimated.
These are terrible. This one's hard. Chris Spieler. Fuck Sam Quant. There we go. OK. I know. I think of him. I think Savants called him Superman several times. You got you have 4 I terms left and you have 6. So we got a hit. You need to. Be one word. One word 1. Word things OK. John, you got to get this. I don't even know if this is the right place. South Africa, Is that not the right place? No, it's close, John. It's close to the right place, not close. Don't listen to it.
No, Jamie Simmons. No. I'm trying to think of other places that just. Try. I think we're South. Africa. Try again. You're Jamie Green? No. OK, one more you're you're red. Hot Cara Cara Saunders Cara Web it's. Moving away. Think of anybody. That's an on podium. That's not from South Africa. I don't know. I don't know where they're from. All right, I will. I will. I will fill in you're. Going to give it some mercy kill.
I'll give you one Oslo. Kristen Holta, you said South Africa for a Holta she has the opposite point in the world bro. She has the furthest away from South Africa we could be. Damn. All right, it's fine. I got this. Hold on Taylor, you have 12 words or 15 words to get 8 items correct? Oh man, South Africa. Wow, you could have said Norway. We could. You spent 2 words on one word when it's the opposite side of the world. I know I screwed that one up. Did you?
See where I was going spin? I thought I was thinking maybe he's thinking of New Zealand. Like like I, I, I. I had to look at my list to make sure she wasn't on there and he didn't skip something all. Right, we have to do all one word. All one word names. All one word names. Sisu. Miko, Salo, there we go. We're killing it. Spin. You have to say if we get it or not 'cause I didn't know why I get it OK. Murph Oh, shoot. OK. Josh Bridges got it. Let's go.
One word, one word, one term. Let's go. That was hey, that was a great one. That was a great one. I hate you spin. I hate you so much 'cause I have to use this bullet. Here we go. Boobs. Is it? Is it? Is it recent? Is that why we're doing this? Yeah. Catherine, David's tired. Did I get a spin? All right, let's go. That. Was a total stand up and I didn't even look until the end. I knew where I was going South. Africa. I was like, I don't know
anything else. I guess I could have said sled dog, but I only had one word left. God, that worked out perfectly. Yeah, you. You screwed me. I. Hate you screwed yourself by going South Africa. Dude, South Africa was bad, man. South Africa was bad. I still got it in 14 words. 15. That's true. Yeah, we did. Count your word. Did you count your word? Yes, you can't get a freebie. So we got it. Yeah, we did it. Wild, wild. Hey, you have to make you have
to make this easy like that. Like it has. It has to be like that, OK, You can't. It can't be like. I thought it was fair, no. No, no, I 100% thought it was fair. I'm saying it always has to be like that. If you, if it was box and we get on the wrong train, we're never going to get it. You know what I'm saying? Like if we get, if you know what I mean, Yeah. Yeah, I think some a mix of new, mix of old. I can't tell you how bad I usually am at that game.
South Africa. Is the worst thing I've ever heard for Kristen Holto. I swear to God I thought she was from. You don't think I would have said like Africa's had a good Crossfitter? How I can't talk that bad about Africa? I thought she was South. Africa. It would make sense if she was from South Africa. Oh man. Oh, man, that was so like if I had, if I was, if the shoes were reversed and I had Kristen Holter and I said Norway, you would have never gotten it, huh?
Nope, who would you? I would have said. Oh, what's her face? The little, the little chick. See, that's the problem. If I'm not guessing like like he won't have any guesses, he won't have this. The little chick. The little chick, what is her name? Helga daughter. Yeah, Helga daughter. Yeah, I bet that's Icelandic. There's a daughter in it. No, Norway. She's been in the games like a billion times. But not on the podium. Oh yeah, no, it's 30. Yeah, that's right, That's right.
Little bit. She not from Norway. Daughter, daughter, daughter in her name. John, they're all Vikings. Norway, Sweden and Iceland are all Vikings. The only. One that does daughters and sons. Ah, you'd have fooled me on that. Well, now you know you learned something today. Last one after that geography lesson. Down Under Championship this weekend, we feel like we haven't really talked about it much. They are going away from teams of three and they're going to teams of two pairs.
Ricky and Aniel are pairing up. Do you like the idea of pairs as a team event? Could you see it? Would you rather see that at the games than the pairs of four? Or even like Tier Cup where it was massive teams where you had different types of events? I'm not I. Liked the tier cup. I liked how they did that a lot. Do you think if they made that into a, a CrossFit Games thing, would you, wouldn't that be kind of limiting or maybe that goes back to affiliate type teams versus teams of two?
It once again raises the bar for fitness needed to to play and I think we've gone too far in that direction. No, like the thing about teams is no one cares who the fittest two people are. They don't. They want to see an underdog match. They want to see different skill levels. They want to see home run hitters and two people. No one gives a shit. I absolutely hate the idea of teams of two. Is it fun to go do as at high rocks or freaking at water pollution? Sure. But or or at Dubai?
Or is it Dubai? Down under, Down under. Down Under, that's fine. Like as a participatory sport I think you're losing some. But no, as a competitive event for a pro sport, I think we're moving in the exact wrong direction if we go with teams too. And there was a lot of floating around to that idea last year ish. I think somebody brought it up maybe on Pedro's show about that might be a good idea.
I can't tell. Like when people bring that up, I want to be like, you obviously don't understand anything, like you're going to kill the sport faster then I get it. It's like, oh, everybody likes everybody likes doing it. Yeah, people like participating in it, but that's not what you like to watch. It's you're just so delusional on your idea of what you think CrossFit is and how to how to sell it I. Agree, John. It's been to be like I, I like it.
No, I, I think for a down under, I think it's something different. It's we'll see how it plays out. I mean, I'm not going to go through all the workouts, but I think you're right. Like a super team of teams of two, you pretty much know who's going to. Unless there's multiple super teams. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the only, only thing that has the ability to do is that there there could be more people, more super teams that have some parity to it.
But I, I, I like what? I like the Tear Cup format and the more I think about it, if you, if you applied that to the CrossFit Games season and said that was teams, you have to have to bring a team of eight, I think you inherently bring on affiliate style teams, affiliate teams back into the mix, less super teams because it's hard to get 8 super. You know, 8 athletes that are all high caliber to go to one place and do it like they have a hard enough time getting 4,
sure. But now you have your gym, can get the top four men and top four women and go compete. Sure. There might be there might be an evictus and maybe peak 360 can pull it off well. But it like you would see things like Indiana or like whole states or whole regions would like pull, pull people to to do that. And it would still lower the threshold. And then you would have more athletes and more gyms spread across a larger area. And that's what's important. People go watch who they know.
They don't go watch who they don't know. Yeah, I mean like it for years like you could have Indianapolis like team, you know different affiliates bring their their best 8 from Indianapolis area and go to it and and have those different formats. I think it might be interesting. I'll be curious to see how this teams of two plays out, but I think it's an interesting format for this type of competition, but I I don't think it's the future of anything.
Well, who was it in here, Kathy? She made a point like what it is in Australia. That's fine. It might fit in a circuit market. I mean you guys still have what do we call El El El Caminos? Like you guys drive around in cars like that. We don't have those here. They're market specific. Yeah, y'all are weird. Look, I mean your toilet balls. What in reverse? I don't know what you call those those types of cars, but you know what I'm talking about. It's a car with a freaking tailgate.
Yeah, with the truck bed in the back, I don't. Yeah, I don't. Is it called? I don't think it's. I don't think that's the name of. Well, that's a brain that we have here. It's, you know, it's like, yeah. No, but there's there's a there's a name for it though. What? What's the name of it? A Ute. That's not it. I think it is that's. What they call them in Australia, that's. What they call utes. Yeah, I just called them. A pick up car.
I love, I actually love utes I think they're, they're neat, but we don't sell them here. That's not something we do. No, I thought it was just interesting, like I really haven't been paying attention to Down Under that much and then saw that there are teams of two. Want to see what your guys's opinion was? I know Mr. Tyler, you are the resident expert, self-proclaimed expert of teams, so I wanted to
get your thoughts on that. When HQ wants to quit screwing around, call me up. I'll tell you how to do this. Get some grid. Let's see. There's a question up here that's unrelated. Teresa, why did Danny get the nod over the next qualifying athlete for Rogue? Because she's naked all the time, that's why. Maybe Bill and Katie like that, I don't know. They like the amount of people that like that. She does well at at Rogue. Yeah. Because it's lifting things.
I think that's 100% it. She she fits the mold. Yes, JA JA binks, that is why. And if you don't think that's why, you are wrong. She was not next on their ranking system. Let's go, let's go. Take. A ranking system. The points on the ranking system are are they don't really matter. They don't matter. Shay I hate, I hate how much that you have you. You accurately depict me. Shay. I just, I want you to know that. Jonah's awake.
Now, no, she's on it. Whoever Shay is, she she she gets me. Yeah, so all of these top ten. Barnhart got it. McQuaid got it. Rolf got it. Hayley Adams, Emma, Carrie's not competing, but Paige, Emma, Tall Manon, Karen Freova. I don't think Karen accepted so it would drop down to Danny. So I don't know why. I don't know. Karen did not like to not to compete so. She's doing Dubai. She is doing Dubai but loyal. She is not going to do rogue. So there you go.
That is, it's been for October 16th. I don't know what else to say. You guys have anything else? No. Just recovering. Everybody. Yeah. God, I almost died yesterday. How do you feel today, Tyler? You sound. I feel like you sound better than I sound. Yeah, I mean, you're doing something. Different. Yesterday I woke up and my insides became my outsides and then I laid in the shower for an hour and then I tried to go for two. Will says go for two hours.
I tried to get myself back to normal and then I fought it for about 3 hours and just didn't work. I called off work and. Yeah, yesterday, yesterday morning, I was getting a little nervous after hearing both of you guys. I was like, man, I'm going to be doing this show solo. No, I would have been good. I would have just sit here and shivered through it. We want to do the call in. We want to go 2 hours. You want to get off rail? I'm going to leave Zach Cadets.
What's up fellas? There was a good show with him and Roderick on Meme for Time about how to study for your L 3 so. Oh, snap. So any of you guys that are thinking about doing that, go ahead and go check that out. 30 minute little show. Do you want to talk about this season being online? No, we don't want to talk about that. OK, fake news. Are we not supposed to I'm. Still waiting for your October 7th surprise? Yeah, we're still what we're saying. I just, I just told you what it was.
No, that was about the the. Investigation, yeah. Oh no, something else happened that we'll know at a later date. But it's, it's wild. Just wait until we hear it. OK all. Right. Is this is this as reliable as October 7th? No, I'm saying there were new updates. New updates. Yeah, that caused a delay in the time. Helping helping Dog gave. Johnson updates. Yeah. Maybe man, maybe will will knows. Will knows. Will has the investigation results. Yeah, he's holding on to him for
for dear life. I know what they are. If you see, if you see, will you hunt hawk them down? No, I think the season story, we, we need more information. We're not going to just hear to speculate. We're here to tell facts, right? Yeah. So all right, what's that? It was pretty good. It is pretty. Good. No, it was very, it was very just vanilla. Very vanilla. We'll see you guys next week.