Welcome to a special edition of the Spin. It is just myself, Brian Spin. It is Thursday afternoon. Normally it's on Wednesdays, but after posting the article about Alex Kazan this morning, I think a lot of you guys have missed what's going on. You guys have have not seen what the point of this entire article is. So I definitely want to clear this out, let you guys ask some questions and I'll explain why all of you guys in the comments just do not get it. Berry.
MC Cochner. How's it going, Bubba? Let's see. Oh, Jake is 8th. All right, All right, so if you guys were not paying attention this morning, it all started with a talking Elite fitness interview with Alex Kazan, and I'll play that clip right here. And let's see. So she was on Talk Elite Fitness, they're talking about World Fitness project couple weekends ago and Alex says this. One of my methods when I can't sleep very well is to take like a micro dose THC.
Gummy of sorts. Like it's like mostly CBD, but it has a little bit and we'll like Nix that out of the in competition rules. So like you're allowed to anyway. I was like, no, don't take it 'cause sometimes it can have adverse effects where like you don't sleep and then you just feel for lack of like high and not sleeping. And I was like, don't take it. Just like lay there and I tossed and turn and all of a sudden it's like one, I'm like, I'm going to take it.
And then so like I took it and then like an hour and a half later when it like kicked in, I was like wide awake. All right, so she says she takes a THC micro dosed THC gummy that is mostly CBD, but it does have some THC in it. And I mean I don't know all of the anti doping rules, but when she made the comment about will saying I nixed that from it. It it kind of piqued my interest like wait, something is going on here. And so I started looking into it
and following the rulebook. So world fitness project does have its own rulebook and you'll see right here page 2. It says that here is the anti doping policy. We then go to the drug testing policy, which is AI guess on the Google Drive and you Scroll down and it has all kinds of stuff about, you know, testing in their their testing pools, how it works when you're, you know, you do test for something that you shouldn't down here in the appendices, it says
cannabinoids. And so, and, and, and just for a little clarification, this appendices that the World Fitness Project bans the following classes of drugs at all times and bans the following classes of drugs in competition. That is word for word the same as what is in the CrossFit Games drug policy. I think it's pretty standard. I think it may even be very similar to WADA, but just kind of, you know, a little bit less detailed.
But this is what the CrossFit Games has been dealing with or have been using for years and they're not as WADA goes into a lot of detail about everything you can and cannot take CrossFit basically points you to WADA to say, let's take a look at that. So cannabinoids, when you search what is under that, it technically is THC. And so let's see if you go down here in the article, it kind of I kind of still fall out. All right. So cannabinoids are not allowed.
And basically what WADA says in their sect in their their rule book, it says cannabinoids are prohibited in competition, in competition. The definition of in competition per WADA is you'll see it up here, the period commencing just before midnight on the day before the competition. So this will be Thursday night at 11:59 PM and it runs through the end of the competition in the sample collection process,
so Sunday evening. So from that time period there are certain things that you cannot take while you are competing. You can take those those things outside of that window. So technically Alex could take that on Thursday morning, assuming that she would not get tested for it at you know, and it would come under the 150 nanoliter or nanograms per milliliter. And so a cannabidiol, cannabidiol, bidiol, I don't know, CBD does not fall under this, right?
But actual cannabis, THCS and synthetic cannabinoids that mimic THC are all banned in competition. OK, So we know Ghazan took it. She said she had taken it. But we don't know, does that violate technically, does it violate the drug testing policy? Right, because you still have to be above a certain threshold. And so I'm basically calling that out. And when you think about the CrossFit game season, right, like Andrew Hiller was sanctioned for admitting that he used a substance that was
banned. He was never tested and he received a four year sanction. Alex has technically admitted that she has used a banned substance. I think on Sivan's podcast, she said that she used one that had two milligrams of THC in it. You know, at the time of writing this, I didn't know if she may have had a therapeutic use exemption. Not sure.
And we don't know what her drug results to her drug test come has come back at the comments immediately go to well, why is THC even being a banned substance? You guys are missing the point. It doesn't I don't care about that right? Like unfortunately the rules are the rules and I'm saying that the rules state that Alex should not have taken it and she knows this right? Like if we go to, let's see, when she was talking to Sivan on the phone today, here it is. She says this.
They're literally like CBD with my godos THC and it's allowed out of competition. Like in the rules, you're allowed to have THC out of competition for the games. Oh, you. Are OK, but you're good, Yeah. So you're you're allowed. To outside of the. Games and then the only situation is like in competition, you're not supposed to have THC. And so like the games and all that, like I don't take them, but it's like I said it's micro dose.
And so I kind of forgot and I took 1 and I was freaking out and before the drug testing I went and asked Will and I was like, hey, like should I be worried? Like it's I think it's like 2 milligrams of THD for the one gummy. And he's like, no, you're like you're fine. Like I took that out of the in person or in person section 'cause if you're allowed to all the time, like it doesn't make a difference. I can guarantee you it did not enhance my performance.
If anything it fucked me up. Yeah, OK, good all. Right. Hey. So, I mean, I don't know, I'm more just nervous now. Everyone. People are trolls on the Internet, so this is about to probably be fun. Yeah, it will. It'll be fun. Enjoy it. I'm glad you enjoy. So Jake, I see you're in the comments. I think the performance in drugs is a lot different than a sleepy gummy. I completely agree. And again, my whole point of this is not to say that I agree with what is being banned and not banned.
Like personally, it's probably doesn't need to be part of it, right? Like things have changed. I don't know what is reasoning for saying that you cannot take it during a competition, right? Like why can you not take it during a competition, but you can take it a week prior to. So I, I, I'm not trying to argue that. I'm not even trying to say like that the WFP should sanction Alex. My biggest concern is what she said that Will told her and that is I've nixed that from in
competition testing. I just showed you in the rule book that you can click on right now, it says that cannabinoids are not to be used during competition in the World Fitness Projects rule book. Anybody outside of Alex Kazan would not have information like this. And so if you think about let's let's take a different scenario. Let's say that Brooke Wells was doing a podcast and she said that she took some THC and she was freaking out because she had a drug test and she asked Dave about it.
And Dave said, Dave Castro said, don't don't worry, you're fine. I'm taking it out. Everybody would lose their freaking mind. Everybody they'd say it's rigged. Dave Castro's protecting the people he likes. This is, you know, it's just CrossFit being CrossFit now. There's a few people out there, but a lot of people are just attacking. Why is THC even being an issue? They're not missing. They're missing the point of a director of sport just said
that. Don't worry, I've changed the rules without changing the rules. Like that's a problem right? I I the Seth D Am I on her side or is this more aimed at WFP and Will? I'm not trying to take a side on this. I'm trying to point out the issues that are in the comment section, right. And I think it also indicates like we've seen CrossFit in the past.
I wrote about it last year. This Marcia Van Gladden CrossFit has the ability to sanction an athlete who has been it's under a sanction by another governing body. In a marsh's case last year it was a a masters competition in 2021, weightlifting and she CrossFit saw my article and they ended up giving giving her the sanction and she could not compete at the CrossFit Games in the masters division. So the question is, does CrossFit do anything right?
Does does does admission of taking something you're not supposed to be when competing in a competition that's not CrossFit Games related? Does CrossFit have the right, the obligation to follow its rule book? It says may like does that matter right, if WFP ends up sanctioning Alex because maybe her, her, her test comes back higher than what it should and they're not going to listen to what will said, but it what the rules say. It's a little bit more clear cut.
Like my guess is CrossFit follows that. But if not, what does CrossFit do right? How do you handle a situation that's in my opinion, pretty Gray of it's not a CrossFit Games competition. She just said she took it. We don't have a test at this point if, if World Fitness Project doesn't report it because Will decided to not follow what's in the rule book,
what does CrossFit do right? And you still have a situation where World Fitness Project is and Will made a comment to an athlete that is in contrast to what they have written. So here we go Alex. I think it's important that not to note that this was not a special word for me. They have had this in policy since working with drug free sport in March. I see the frustration of the rule book not being updated right.
So if I'm Colton Merton's or I'm whoever else, maybe not a pro athlete, I don't know, maybe this is communicated to the pro athletes and not others. And I and I, I need sleep and I need to take THC, but I don't because it's in the rule book on those three days. How do you manage that, right? Like, how do you, what do you do about that? Riley? I'm going to take down the WFP. First of all, everything's forgotten about in a week.
Everything. But when people are in the comments and they are arguing about whether THC should or should not be banned, you guys are missing the point. And so I figured I'd go alive and explain why I wrote it. It wasn't a slow Newsday, right? Like these are things that you need to talk about if you want to be a professional sport. How does WFP handle it? If one thing was said but the rule book says another, how do you handle it?
What are you going to do? What is CrossFit going to do given that one of their top athletes is in this situation? So, you know, that is what I want to jump on here for. Jeff. Yes, there is a rule book out there. Go to the website. It's out there. Jessica, this will fall on will not. Alex. Again, I don't know how, I don't know what what's been discussed outside of what is actually been officially published.
So we'll have to wait and see. I don't know what World Fitness Project will do. Will is not responded to a text last week about joining the podcast last night. I don't think they have any interest in talking. But anyway, that is what is going on with it. That is why I wanted to make the story. It's looking at the situation of what was said and how that could have an impact to everybody involved. I have no idea shiz what the CBD brand is. So that's it guys. He communicated the same rule to
all the athletes. The only issue is the rule book wasn't updated but all the athletes were aware so who cares. I don't know if that's true. Riley. Alex was concerned up into the drug test on Sunday. She had forgotten that she had taken it, so that would not be the case. Tyler. No call or text. Rude. You can jump on it anytime, Tyler. But you have the link. All right? I don't know. Anyway, that is all I got. Go check out the the article.
Read it. I think I've pretty much outlined it. I think a lot of people who did comment on it did not actually read the article. So do that and then go back and comment and see if I was unfair to Alex or anybody else. I apologize to absolutely nobody.