What is going on guys? And happy Monday. We have Silver Samurai coming out tonight. Is he going to elevate the archetype that is discard? And is he the most slept on card This month we're gonna be breaking down September. It's right around the corner. We'll be ranking all the spotlight caches within the month, which ones are worth saving up for which ones you should skip altogether, and taking a look at the new cards. And lastly, guys, we'll be breaking down the top 10 discard cards.
Right now we'll be doing my votes versus Alex. And of course we're gonna talk about X 23, the PC release. We've got a lot to talk about all on this episode of the Snapchat. And as always, I'm joined by Mr. Alex Coccia. My gosh, what a week for Marvel Snap. Probably the biggest week. We're talking to the runner up at Twitch Rivals. We had PC launch. Dude, how are you feeling on what is probably one of the most like epic weeks for the game? Yeah,
it has been an absolutely insane week for Marvel Snap. I mean, that PC launch is just momentous for the game, momentous for the player base, and of course it's bringing in a whole bunch of new players that were interested in that PC launch and just the overall hype around the game with the Twitch drops, which are actually amazing. I really like that sunspot. It's complete fire, no pun intended, but really like it is a great time to be a Marvel Snap player. There's never been a better time.
To be a Marvel
Snap player. Okay. Your slogan rings true. The most ever. I think right now. And truly, and, and look, we're gonna talk about there's a lot to break down right now, but you said it right. We have new players, we have returning players in, in fact, like Marvel Snap had both of us do some type of sponsor video for the PC release.
And I did a new player's guide and just looking back at pull one, pull two, looking back at like the new player's experience, we might need to even do a topic maybe next week on like beginner decks. It's made me wanna use like, beginner decks in even infinity conquest coming up. Just 'cause, you know I feel like I've, I've aged beautifully from where I was in, all types of deck building and Marvel Snap strategy and not snapping at everything, man. But yeah. What are your, what are your initial.
Impressions, thoughts on the PC build? We're gonna break it down more on your side, but just like initial thoughts.
My initial thoughts is that it's an amazing first step forward. I think it's a great first step and the thing that really excites me is like we had been hearing in the past, like, listen, Second Dinner is a small team and it took a lot of actual like, human resources to get that system out, to get that PC launch ready. And I can't wait to see how they continue to reiterate on it and improve on it. 'cause one thing the second dinner has consistently done is produced good work.
Like every single time they release something, the Polish level, especially with like the Visual fidelity and just the general quality tends to be extremely high. Right. And so like I'm really looking forward to what comes next because you know it's gonna be a
banger. Yeah. I mean, look, we're gonna talk about the good, the bad, the ugly of the PC launch and the experience. But just to spoil one thing I would say, The, the man, the marketing guys. There was 200, a quarter of a million people were watching Marvel Snap on Twitch. We had yourself and Dexter multiple streamers. Well in the number one through number five category in top live streaming at all. It's crazy. I truly, I talk about this all the time.
You never realize how big the game is until something like that happens and then you're like, holy crap. This game, this game is, this. Game's huge. There's a very, there's a huge casual player base I think of Marvel Snap.
The player base is actually like so important to this game, and I think a lot of people lose sight of the fact that the. Casual player base is really what keeps it alive, right? We have, of course the competitive side and like the, you know, the, the people on Reddit that really take it seriously and really love this game and go into the minutia of strategies, cards and et cetera. And that's awesome.
Those, those communities are fantastic, but by far the largest is gonna be that casual player base, right? And I don't want them to be forgotten either. And to see them come out full force, full force for those variants is amazing. And I think it was an eye-opening experience because like, we like to kind of.
Assume we know what the game looks like, what the health of the game is, and I think that this week showcased just how healthy this game is and just how many players are truly interested in Marvel Snap.
Yeah. And not to mention like I, the varied system for the game just works with Twitch drops so Well, and or just like a Vince, right, like the devil dinosaur here. Like what a great way to just like get a sick, like hype up, you said the sunspot. I mean, we had some really cool variants there also, man.
The opening cinematic, the one they showed a game con, but then also when you open steam for the first time, dude, the Deadpool versus ghost rider with the squirrel girl in there, which I don't know why they're so hung up on it. They love squirrel girl, man. It's like on all their trailers. I would watch a full Netflix series. I would read the the, the a magazine and comic of it. It works with Snap because of the variance and the different art styles.
Man, I see other people that have, they don't even know what Marvel Snap is buzzing about the animation. Dude, that was sick. Yeah.
Yeah, it was awesome. And it kind of reminds me of like, like the launch of Hero, like the music video. Yeah. How people that didn't even realize it was kind of an advertisement for Marvel Snap, right? Like he's playing the game at the beginning and stuff like that. And like that kind of marketing is so intelligent and I think that Marvel Snap is nailing it. And yeah, that what we saw, there was a trailer, but it was immensely, fantastically well done. I hope they do more of that stuff.
'cause I think thinking outside the box and creating that types of quality cinematics really helps to sell people on at least giving the game a try. Which I saw streamers and kind of like larger personalities that had not been playing Marvel Snap. They were checking it out, first time player you saw on Twitch, and they, they were bringing huge audiences providing exposure to the game. So I do think that this game is in a really healthy spot and I, I just can't wait for the future. Yeah,
4 million views I think right now on that animation. You know, so they did sponsor some big, big streamers to play the game. I was watching some of these bigger streamers and they're like, ah, Marvel Snap. And by the end of it, they're like, wait, dude, I, this is really good. I wanna get, like, there's a guy named Hassan who's like, I'm, I want to, I want to play more card games. Like, snap, like please can I, can I learn how to play this? This was too much fun.
So it reminded me when I got into Snap, right? Like it just sucks you in immediately and you forget how fun the game is. Now we talked about the first topic. What else are we talking about on your side?
Alex? We're gonna be talking about the biggest sleepers in Marvel Snap at every cost. I think this is gonna be a really fun discussion 'cause cozy and I often bring very different approaches here and I think that it's gonna be great. And then we're also gonna talk about the archetype MVPs, the cards that really solidify these different archetypes and Marvel Snap in the competitive meta.
I've gotta give you some love, man. Your performance not only on freaking Twitch rivals, but guys, if you haven't seen it, this man to get the twitch drops for you guys. You went 30 hours. 30 hours. Mind you, you have four kids. You're a teacher. I know, not right now, but I don't care. You're a teacher. I'm just gonna state that. And then you stayed on. My, my friend, you had four times the viewers as Ninja. You were you, you were the, you were battling for the championship and Twitch Rivals.
Man, I have had so much going on on my side of my life right now, and I still was glued like I was a patriot. I was like rooting for you in the Super Bowl, screaming of excitement. Alex, how does it feel, man? What a week for you, buddy?
It was a completely out of body experience, right? Like it was completely incredible. What really stood out to me was like the support of the people around me, watching the community, the comments, the tweets, the everything about it. Just the chat section, like people were so amped up, hyped up, cheering me on it. Fueled me, right? I didn't eat, I didn't eat that entire time and like I was so fixated on the game and the screen and everything. I was like in the mode.
I've never been like that before. I wasn't even tired, cozy, like I'd gone, I think I ended at like 32 hours or something like that, 33 hours and I could have kept going, but like people were like begging me to stop for my health and I'm like, you know what? You guys are right. Also. I need to see my
family. Dude, this is, there's two takeaways. I wanna say. Number one, I got a couple comments when I did the conquerors and I wanted to feed 'em back to you. People were like, oh damn, they're not just happy on the Snapchat or whatever. You like, you were Alex all 32 hours. And that's what truly like and I see that side to you all the time. Right. But it was just like so heartwarming to see that like 28 hours. And I'm like, did he still Alex I also was like cracking up bro.
I was in the I put this on a, on a tweet. My, son is going through a surgery. It's been actually a very, very tough week. I've had you on blast on my, on my Samsung tablet and I've gotta tell you, dude, You were no matter what hour I checked in, you were so pumped and happy. The fact that your wife, though, the only food she brought you, she got some toast. It was a banana live in front of tens of thousands of people was the funniest thing. I've witnessed a banana, like, could you think of a
worse food? Yeah. I told her, I'm like, I can't eat a banana in front of 15,000 people on the internet. Like, what are you doing? Like, do you understand how the internet works? Like you can't, like I can't just like, it's just not, it's inedible. I can't do it. And she's like, what? Decision what mean, why think, think about it for a second. This is the internet we're talking about here. Clips get made here.
Your students, we, I can't just, I can't just like, just smash a banana while streaming like on Twitch. Rivals. Like, it just, so I, I chose not, I literally had a banana. I chose not to eat over the banana. Oh
my gosh. Well guys, if you haven't already, the Twitch drops are actually, I think it's the last day as this goes on. If you haven't, go check out Alex. Streaming over on Twitch. And, man, the the variants are, fire. But man, just I said this at the Conquerors event, I remember getting some crap for it. I was like, Alex is a much better player than people think and that he thinks for that matter.
And like it was so cool to see with no sleep, you were taking down some of the giants of Marvel Snap. Right?
It was such an incredible experience, and I think the thing that really stands out was like just how fun the games were too. Like I've gone back and I've watched them back and they are some of the best spectator games I think I've ever seen. Like my match with Jeff was insane. Like, absolutely insane. He's insane. Like he played so well and like the maneuvering on, on both our parts to like, for each individual cube, we were losing games.
Like where, like on aggregate, the point difference was one. Was one point. It was insane how like incredible the Snap games were. Like it was, I think from a spectator perspective,
wild. Yeah. I wanna say this. I think that Jeff game was so intense and so insane. The fact that it came down to like one cube one cube, but also yeah, the point differential. And I'll say at a glance, I do think you had the better deck. That doesn't diminish anything. But that was what was so crazy about it, is that it was able to be at the most hyper. And listen, bro, you could have the best deck in the game against the worst deck. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day.
It's like the consistency behind it. The masterclass at play on both sides of like where, because Jeff is just such a phenomenal player of the sense of like, I'm gonna play, you know, I'm gonna stack high in this lane. And then he had to play around your Kang, which was a whole nother thing, right? But then for you to be like, okay, where do I play? She Hulk, where do I play? Infinaut it, dude, the whole thing was like on the edge of the seat. It was such a cool experience, man.
And, I, man I'm, I'm a big Alex fan man. I got my shirt coming in the mail just like Canadian Pride. It's actually a big Canadian flag. With your face on it. I hope that's okay.
Yeah, that's perfect actually. And what you can do is have like a, that, that, and then a cape. That's actually the Canadian flag as well. Oh. And then I'm looking forward to seeing the tattoo of my face on your chest
as well. That's The arms are bananas. Yeah. Oh, it's sick. Well, guys, again, just an absolute legendary run. I had to, had to tote your horn 'cause I know you wanna do, you're too humble buddy. And lastly I wanna say you just, you're so humble, man. No matter how much you won and like where, how things went, like. No man. I'm just a big Alex fan. Anyway, the bro love. We'll move on. Dude, I, I'm excited for all six topics.
Like listen, let's start with before we hop into three, down below here, let's start with X 23. We don't have a whole topic for it 'cause there was so much to talk about but wanted to briefly say initial thoughts, initial impressions. I think she's great. She's gonna get better. I don't even know if I've seen like over a hyped question mark. I think she does exactly what she's supposed to in a destroyed deck.
Yeah. So my first impressions were a little lukewarm. I thought that I. At first I was kind of really fixated on like the turn five and six like mega turns, right? Yeah. And if you didn't get X 23 earlier on, then like that snowball effect wasn't happening and I was kind of getting a little frustrated. Then I kind of realized like, why don't, why force this card to do what it's not designed to do? Why don't I allow it to just be a working cog in a greater machine?
Yes. And so if I draw it on turn four, then I'll play it with Killmonger and then, hey, I got my turn five, six combo that I've been trying to pull off the entire time, right? Have multiple lines and X twenty three. We'll activate another line to get to that end game. And so once I started to like pull myself back of like the fixation on specific combos and more play a good functional destroy deck that will take advantage of X 23 when the opportunity arises, it completely changed. Right.
And I think that actually the decks that you designed near that launch, like the the Death X for instance Yeah. I thought really did that. It, it, there was so many different winning lines. Like you didn't need X 23 to be in your opening hand to win that. With those decks. Right. So so yeah, I ultimately do find X 23 to be a staple in destroy. And now I'm pleasantly surprised with how it performs.
Yeah. It's like a sneaky it's like Deadpool in the sense of like, you're just like, you wanna get Deadpool so big, so big, right? But if you just like have it work in the flow of the deck, it's gonna work that much better. And I feel like X 23 sometimes allows you to play multiple cards on turn four. Or maybe you can get the Deadpool out with your death or with the Knull, play the Knull early. 'cause you got to destroy it twice.
There's a lot of ways that you can make it work and then sometimes yes, you get do like the Arnim Nola and then it's just like I win, right? And if it was too consistent, it would be overpowered. I feel like it is as good as you can get without feeling overpowered it. It is a very good place. The deck builds are fun. I've played the hell outta the card. Pretty underwhelming and discard in my opinion. I think you have to kind of force it in there.
But we're gonna be breaking that down here in just a second. X 23 though, definitely love it. It's not too late. You have a few hours if you haven't gone for that spotlight. Speaking of, let's break down our first topic and we're gonna start with the spotlight hitting right now, and that is going to be Silver Samurai Kitty Pride. And then lastly, we've got Spider-Man 2099.
So Alex, as we always do one through five stars, let's just kind of from the gut, what do you rank this kind of week of a cash? To
me, this feels like it could be a two star. I don't wanna sound like kind of like a, you know, a Debbie Downer, but I mean, kitty Pride I think is in the hands of most players. If, if it's not, then this is a great week to get Kitty Pride, who's still a great card. It, yes, it got nerfed, but I still find that it is a very strong card in the, in Marvel Snap. Spider-Man 2099 has underwhelmed.
And I do think that silver Samurai better than people think it is, I think it's not getting the buzz it deserves, but hey, spotlight casts are expensive. So I kind of, I wanna make sure that, you know, we, we don't we don't approach these conversations from too much hype. Like, I get excited about all these new cars, right? And all the new variants.
I just, I'm just excited to open new stuff every week, but at the same time, I think it's worth noting that I think this is a bit of a weaker offering compared especially to what we had last week. Yeah, last week was wild with X 23 silk, right? Like yeah, that's a wild week. So it's comparatively, I think this is a little weaker. I. And weeks in the
future. Like we we're about to hit this last week before the crazy September in my notes. You nailed it. I have the exact same thing written down. If you don't have Kitty Pride for whatever reason, and you're in a spot to get spotlights, I actually have this as a three star wig just because of eh, maybe it's still even like two and a half, right? Kitty Pride, very good card. Very good card. I use her in so many decks with Angela. It's like a no-brainer, especially if you're a new player.
Just you don't need synergy outside of pool one. Pull two cards. I love that. However, 2099. Look it, it's not that he's bad, it's just that he's terrible. He just doesn't, dude, I just never picked to play him, man. I've tried to make him work the combo pieces. He's, he's extremely niche and ultimately, even if you do some cool, cheeky things with him, I just feel like there's another option most of the time at hand.
I think the major problem with 2099 is the fact that we've made these early turns matter. Again, like each individual turn is so important. So you have these ones, twos and three drops that are like, that have been played, like they're on the board. And so X 20 sorry, 2099 is often not hitting a big piece. And often you wanna hold it till later in the game because do you really want to trade a one drop with, I mean, of course there's some one drops, you'll trade.
You'd be happy to, but you really wanna hit iceman with 2099. Yes. On turn. Five. Like what do you, what are you actually trying to accomplish? Yeah, you want to hit the Ironman or whatever, but it just in practice doesn't feel good. Plus, 'cause the R N G element of it. Yeah, it's been an underwhelming card.
Ultimately he's a tech card, right? So you have to look at the meta and right now he's like gambit. It couldn't be worse. Right? You have, you have a brood and then an absorbing man brood, and there's six things to hit and if you hit one, it's not that big of a deal. So it depends right. It's just a flood meta. And if we go back to more of a single play big card meta, which could happen with Alioth kind of cards like that, then he will maybe make more sense. But definitely I would hold on.
However, we're gonna ignore that and we're gonna talk about just Silver Samara as a card. I wanna break him down. What he does to discard are thoughts, synergy, everything that it revolves around the cart, as we always do. And I agree with you, man. I think this guy's the sleeper of the month. He, he's cool. He's, he's gonna be a pretty cool card and he reminds me a lot like maybe like Iron Lad in the sense of, in the decks that he's in holy freaking crap.
But he can ultimately be replaced at the end of the day. I, I don't know if Iron Lad's the best example, but you gonna see him you kind of elevated deck a good amount, and the deck will be worse without 'em, but it's still just a good deck at its core, if that makes sense. Especially with discard.
Yeah, absolutely. And one thing that's core about Silver Samurai is that it's discarding the lowest power, which at first glance, I think people like read through it and just think it's like the lowest cost or lowest, like it's the lowest power. So when you actually think very critical, critically, but what that might allow you to do, right? There's certain combo cards that work really well and there's some things you're gonna be able to counter. Like, this is, this is gonna be a nightmare.
If it becomes metaphor, like something like Shuri Sauron, because Taskmaster basically can't exist, right? Because Taskmaster is gonna get knocked outta the hand. Zola is always gonna get knocked outta the hand. So it is very disruptive. You know, obviously negative and Ironman gets a lot of attention, but like, do not lose sight of how low cost cards can be extremely impactful in the meta.
I think this card is more disruptive than people are giving it first credit for, and it's honestly not that understated. Yeah, you prefer four, six, but when you. Consider the synergies that are available here for Silver Samurai four five might actually be a pretty decent
stat line as a base card. Silver Samurai guys is a four five, and again, the on reveal is each player discards the lowest power card from their hand. Now, obviously you look at this, Alex, and you go, Hey, it's discard. Plug 'em right into a discard deck. Honestly, man, I think he's gonna fit in perfectly into good value decks as well. Even though his stat values aren't crazy, he's gonna have this nice curve flow, especially in these kind of Zabu era of builds.
And then also, man, listen, most of them are discard. But let's not shy our heads away from just disruption in general. Man, you, you put this guy with like a Spider Ham and an Iceman, and then you've got him going down. You just, all of a sudden you got Moon Knight, then him, you, you have. Absolutely neutered their hand. You've just completely killed what they're trying to do. And I, and I think he's gonna have more places than the basic discard.
Now you did bring up a great point that I do wanna break down a little bit more. Let's talk about meta relevant cards that he'll get rid of. So it's the, it's the lowest power, right? And I'm gonna stick under maybe like two, maybe three, just let's say consistency sake, right? Like maybe two. Let's go two and down. Big time cards. You, you said a great one in Patriot. What what he's gonna do is he's gonna make players not hold onto these cards, right?
Patriot players are trained not to play Patriot early because of enchantress back in the day, and so they hold onto the turn six, bam, bam, whatever it might be. You're gonna have to play some of your bigger combo pieces down, or some of your bigger, more important plays down as quickly as possible. And that's where he is gonna come in the greatest use.
Now, Alex, some of the cards I have here, we've got hob, goblin obviously with like Galactus hood will be more draw dependent, but it's great to be able to get rid of him. One thing I was thinking about is there's a lot of forecast cards that he competes with, that if they're both played on four, not so great. But if he gets the Zabu out and he's played on three. Brother lemme just, lemme just throw this up. If you can manage the play 'em on three Mr. Negative decks are done.
They absolutely, they're finished. These guys are snap and turn one, they got the side lock, they're about to play their Mr. Ne, whatever it might be, right At that point, they could play it on three. So that was a bad example, but you know what I mean. They're excited to get the Mr. Negative out there. And then you could just get rid of him and you've ruined what their deck is built behind. Right.
Do you have any I have a list, but do you have some off the top of your head, like great cards that just immediately Yeah. He would shatter.
Yeah. The big one for me that really stands out is Dark Hawk. Yes. Because Dark Hawk is usually not played on turn three or four because like if you play Dark Hawk on turn four, Like, it's gonna be sitting at like 12 p like, you're like, Hey, Shong Xi punch me directly in the throat. Yeah. Like that's what you're saying as Dark Hawk when you play him that early. Right. It's like you're baiting and chances in Shong Chi. So you hold it like, that's why Zao exists.
So you could shachi, not Shaxi, sorry. So you could dark Hawk Rock slide on turn six or dark Hawk or Dark Hawk plus one is usually what Turn six looks like in those decks. Now you, you can't do that. He, he's a. Four zero sitting in your hand just begging to be discarded. And yeah, you played cor and you played rockside, and all of a sudden your dark hawk's gone. Well, Gigi, I guess like it's over. Yeah,
that's why I think he's gonna be naturally a great pairing with like something like Enchant, right? Because what you're doing is in a mirror match, a good cards deck, whatever it might be, you're forcing them. You're forcing them to get that play out. Especially like conquest, you know, fool me once, you know, maybe they'll retreat. You get a couple cubes off 'em. They're like, ah, I got rid of my dark hok. We have Enchanters also in the back pocket in the Zbu deck.
They're like, we're gonna play it early this time. And then you just nuke it with the Enchanters. So it, it is the ultimate counter to Dark Hawk. I think people came in this episode thinking Alex and Cozy, we're just gonna talk about discard and we're gonna say that he is gonna have a really good place in there. But I think just as a good card, he exists and the stat line is gonna be reflecting that. Because he's so much better at disruption than people think.
So Dark Hawk awesome example, even dialing it back. Let's talk about some cards that are just everywhere at the moment, man, Angela, some people aren't playing her down right away. On two, there's Craven, there's Jeff, there's other competing cards that need to be out there. They'll save her down. If they do draw her, it's a great card to get rid of in tandem. He's gonna work and synergize with this card.
But my God, Mobius Mobius is gonna be absolutely screwed in the hands of Dex if he's drawn late. Obviously cards that are lower than three costs, four costs are gonna have a good chance, you know, to be played, but also even in discard man. Going back in an old list, you would have like, you know, Colin Wing, you know, swarm would be a problem, but you have a lot of cards to kind of think about on two. So it's not always morphous on two.
So I definitely think he's gonna be able to have an answer. Man, rest in peace again, I feel like I'm saying that on a weekly basis, buddy. I, I, I can't even find the car 'cause it's so bad. Oh, it's not bad, but it's bad. Cerebro, when is cerebral played on three Alex?
Never you, like, you don't play cerebral on three. Like, that's, that's psychotic. You play usually cerebral on six and now we're even playing magic. So, you know, you play on cerebral on turns seven, right? With with mystique or something. 'cause you want to guarantee the draw. Yeah, cerebral definitely takes a kick in the pants here. But it, it's just like, what do you do?
Like, do you just throw out the cerebral and then try to follow up on turn four with mystique right there and just make yourself vulnerable to enchanters? It completely flips on the head these. Like very greedy style decks that are relying on these mega effects to get popped off later in the game. Yep. And I think that's a good thing. You need balance of Marvel Snap. Like it's, it's what Chong Q does.
Like, yeah, people hate Chong Q, but like if that card didn't exist then you know the game would feel weird and awkward and probably suck. So now we have an answer to, I'm gonna hold my combo piece, this low powered cerebral mystique combo in my hand until the very last moment I can play it. And now you can't do that 'cause silver summarizes. Hello? Yeah,
and I've been liking cars a lot more in conquest than, than the latter. I've been like, oh, this is a Conquest card. I actually think Silver Samurai, he'll be great in conquest, but in ladder they can't, they can't just leave. Like, you're matched up, you're matched up. You play your silver, silver Samurai, they get, they, they lose whatever they just lost and they're committed at that point. Right. Whereas conquest, it, it's a battle, battle of attrition, you know what I mean?
I feel like he's the perfect man. He's the perfect ladder card. We're gonna have a lot of like these good value kind of discard hybrid decks. That's where we're gonna see 'em. Lastly buddy, a couple other cards that obviously just major disruption. No brainer man, iron Man. He's been on a tear the last few months. He's been in plenty of decks. Ironman is gonna be a huge target for this guy. Living tribunal had a good couple weeks.
But, but if this is still out there, not great heck, now we have a king counter in a sense. We have a way to get rid of King. If you're sick of playing in a conquest, you have a way to get rid of him. And then lastly, like you said, to start us off taskmaster, our mola. These are big boy cards. These are big boy cars, man. And this guy is a four five. Getting rid of them. Getting rid of them. And
one thing I will. Yeah, absolutely. Like these cards really get hammered and like they attack specific archetypes in a unique way. I wanna talk about a couple things, like synergistically wise, like I, I've been playing in my head like, okay, I. There's two thoughts I have with Silver Samurai that I want to kind of articulate. Well, first is the four five stat line. Okay. I think that the most vanilla stat line for a card is four six.
Now, Glen has been extremely good with balancing this game, so when I see a four five stat line, I. It kind of makes me wonder like, huh, for them to take off a power from four six, this effect must have legit value. Like they must have tested this effect to be a very positive value for the player playing the card. So when I see a four or five, it makes me wonder about, okay, that extra power that's removed has to be in the effect somewhere.
So then it gets me thinking, what's the combo that works? What's the combo that gives you the value? And you know what? Cozy, you were a true believer in X 23. And I wanna talk about a, a quick synergy that I kind of thought of, and it's gonna be in my first deck I create with Service Samurai. What do you think of this? You hold X 23 in your hand, right? You're playing discard. You don't, you don't play it out. You hold it, okay? You play okay? You're gonna play your your Silver Samurai.
You're gonna discard your X 23. And what that allows you to do is have a turn six where you play your Chavez or apocalypse. Plus stature. 'cause now you have the seven energy. So stature gets an additional opportunity to be plead. So now it's not just swarms in a pock or swarms in Chavez, it swarms stature in Chavez. Yeah, I think that's huge and I think that X 23 is gonna enable
it to happen. Okay. So I'd like to, to snowball on that, I'll say this we, we ranked the spotlight cash earlier. If you like discard and or good value decks and you already have dark Hawk and you have stature and you enjoy that play style of deck, he will slot in there so perfectly. And I like what you're saying there in pure discard. He does give you kind of what X 23 did for destroy in the sense of you have a bit more of this flexibility of rolling into these big, massive turns.
I mean, you hit the nail, stature's gonna be disgusting with this card. You had to just rely on a, a random moon night or your black bolt, but now you've got a way to know what you're going to discard. And it's not gonna always be your stature. And then you can also be able to get that trigger of the, the, the one cost. So a hundred percent agree. I think it's filthy. You talked about the stat line.
Moon night obviously reminds me of the same thing, low stat line, because of his effect being just super filthy. Is there a deck, which I think the disruption, man, I think it's gonna be there where you have this moon night, followed by the, maybe even an iceman. 'cause the one spot can be a bit convoluted in discard, you know, it could be X 23 if you don't have it. Nebula but also iceman.
And then if you hit them with the moon night and the silver samurai, of course moon night can ruin you a little bit, but then you have something a, a card that I think is majorly gonna benefit from this. And, and ghost rider, right? Because then you have ghost riders like your protection against some of these random cards. So, you know, if Moonlight does get rid of your silver, you play Ghost Rider, you play both down, right?
So I think disruption, discard is gonna have, its itself a, a good firm placement in competitive decks. We just have to have it build up a little bit.
I think that the targeted discard effect of Silver Samurai is what is where the power is, right? Yes. Like if you think about right now, like Moonlight's not even seen in like in modern discard list because it's so inconsistent, right? It can punish you. It's hitting hella every time. You know it's gonna hit your hell every time, right? You don't want that. That's why Modoc Modoc is incredibly consistent. Why would you play Moon Night versus Lady Ciff?
Well, you always play Ladys Over Moon night because of the consistency of the effect, and, but I think you're right. The opportunity to mill an opponent's hand is very strong and has to be mitigated somehow. And yes, you can mitigate it with your own swarms and stuff, but you're, you're still playing a dangerous game, right?
So yeah, ghost writer's gonna be a major part of that because if you do get rid of a piece you really need, then you do have that follow up on ghost writer, which might even come out on turn five.
Right? How do we not talk about swarm? I mean, guys, just, here's a small little play line that I think is gonna be bananas. All right. And listen, the, any deck with Wong is a greedy deck at the end of the day. But I, I'm fascinated by the idea of Zbu Wong Silver Samurai, and you have swarm in the deck because then you are absolutely, you, you're getting rid of two cards in their hand right after. Now turn four, this is turn four.
So they burn through the low power ones for the most part, going into those important turns. And then, oh, you've got now just so many swarms that you could play for free. And maybe you've got the Morbius two cooking, if you wanna be able to draw that later on, depending on the pulse. I like the idea. Obviously Zapu iss gonna have some good synergy. Clearly one of the best winners of, of recent OTAs is absorbing man. I think he's gonna have a natural, just follow up.
If you don't wanna go the long route, you can go the Silver Samurai route. But swarm, he is gonna get himself some nice play, more consistent play that's not just the calling wing Now. Listen, the guy's got a lot of different synergy, but I, I really think that discard is gonna have a different play style just like Nimrod did to destroy, and that's what makes this card so exciting.
I agree. And it's gonna take some testing to see how it works. 'cause the other thing that's worth noting here is that traditional discard cards are overstated for their effect. So it's very, It's much more straightforward to like dodge accidentally discarding a specific piece. Right? I think a card that's at risk is gonna be like Dracula, like how do you incorporate, incorporate Dracula and Silver Samurai together? 'cause you clearly, if you have zao, like Dracula has to be played first.
Like you can't just discard your own Dracula unless of course you have the, the. The ghostwriter line later, but what are the chances you have your hands set up so perfectly that ghostwriters just waiting, right? It's like dracula's a risky one to, to just straight up discard. Yep.
Absolutely. There's no question I'll be doing some ghostwriter stuff. That's the first deck bill that I've got going on with him. But Alex, that is going to take us into September. I've got my, my Patriots hoodie on, man, it's football season. I'm a, listen, I'm a. N f l football and, and college football for that matter is like my favorite thing. It's one of my favorite hobbies. I'm a diehard my whole life. Been watching my dad is from the East coast area. You're from Canada.
I know, but do you, do you dabble a little football? I
mean, in the C F L our balls are bigger. What's
your favorite team? Is it the, the Maple syrups or, or the Connects, or who
Oh, it's the the al the Alberta Grizzly Bears are my favorite. How are they? Yeah, they're pretty good. They have a, a running back that's actually a lumberjack No way. And he, he runs through trees before every pregame Yeah. To get hyped up.
No way. Do they hug each other or tackle, how does that work? Although
they tackle, but if you power bomb a guy, you, you actually, you get to kick a field goal from the spot. You power bomb them.
Power bomb. Is there a lot of conversations and politely like, like if a wider receiver wants to burn a cornerback and they're like, Hey, do you mind? And they're like, yeah, go ahead man. It's your time. Or like, how does that work? You guys are so polite. I'm just trying to wrap my head. For those that don't know the C F L, you know,
Yeah, so we have a couple different rules. Like one of them is that our field is longer. Our goalposts are in different spots, and quarterbacks can get hit like extremely violently. Like if a, if a quarterback throws a ball and it's gone and it's like sailing away and they're watching the ball, you can
still
hit them. All I know is I'm now because of you, I'm gonna pick a C F L team and become a diehard would you, would you join a a I have a Snap league coming together. Or maybe a pick 'em for, for fantasy or N F L?
Hell yeah. I would, I, I play, I, there was a league. Okay. I've been considered amongst my friend groups to be the Oracle Fantasy Football. Couple years ago I was in four leagues and I won all four. I. Also, my wife's in the league and she like auto drafts, and my brother never sets his line up. So it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a sham sometimes, but,
Your kids, your kids are in the league. Like, you know, listen, the, the league members are saying, I'm the best in the league, dude. I love it, man. Anyway, we, we, we digress a little bit. I just wanted to you know, just, I, I don't think I've talked you much about football yet, and I, I love it. But let's go in and let's talk about September. All right. September spotlights, I've been kind of holding back. We've had this info for a little bit, but it's time because we're in the last week.
What do you start saving up for? We're gonna rank them one through five stars. We've got the whole list with one week being a little bit weird. Alex, week one, this is not gonna be the silver samurai week. It'll be on September 5th. We have Ghost Spider, Jeff, the baby land shark and Noel, what are you ranking it?
So it's hard to rank this 'cause you, you got to repeat Noel, which kind of like, I just wanna say I was kind of disappointed to see Noel repeating so fast. Right. And but I get it. I get it. But this is Jeff. We're talking about Jeff, like ghostwriter is a good card. You probably already have null if you had a chance to start him, but if you're new to the game, maybe you need null. Like this is a good week though. These cards are good cards.
There's no question about, it's just a matter of like, do you already have these pieces? But I think Jeff, if you don't have Jeff, like this is as close to four or five stars as you can get. Because I think Jeff's, without question one of the absolute, if not the best, two drop in the game and pushing against as being one of the best cards in Marvel Snap as a whole.
Yeah. So first variant wise, you know, ghost Spider, sick Noel. I'm just convinced everything is great. And Dan Hip. As much as I love Dan Hip, I'm not, I, I would pick other Jeff Variants is kind of how I probably wrap my head around it. Feel the same about the Ryan Gonzalez Nebula. However I would agree, I think this is a four. Star week if you don't have Jeff, Jeff is carrying the entire value. And if you have Jeff, it's a skip week. I don't mind the K Noel. It's right after Destroy season.
So maybe there's some players that like all of a sudden fell in love with the archetype. Right. And they're giving them that chance. I understand it's a repeat kind of thing, but I do, I do appreciate kind of that front. Ultimately though, the biggest reason why I give this like a one if they, if you don't have, if you have Jeff, is there's no new card. Right. And it's hard to kind of justify that. But Jeff carries. Just so much value, man. Just extreme amounts of value.
Now, going to the next week, Alex, let's talk about it, and we have got ourselves snow guard, hit monkey and a lith. Now, I'm gonna start out by saying I refuse to believe that snow guard's not gonna be reworked before this. I, the I, I refuse. I refuse to believe that they wanna just welcome the anarchy of someone pulling just s snow guard and their whole life being ruined. However, The spotlights are just they, they're sick. That Lyth is mine. I can promise you that. What are you ranking it?
This one's so hard for me 'cause I think Lyth is probably gonna be an absolutely insane archetype to find a card. Like first glance at Lyth is like, this card's gonna be absolutely nuts.
I actually love that we have a six cost now that's so devastating. We need more six costs that are like super impactful right now. We have a lot of five costs in that slot. It just, Bro, he scares me. He's, he's so insane. He's probably like, it's hard to say he's the best card in the month because of how the, the other cards are gonna affect so much, but he's going to be the most polarizing.
There's two things that stand out for me. The first was that the change in cost I think was huge. Like at five, I think he was gonna be completely insane. Like, I thought he was gonna be absolutely nuts. And now I just say, okay, he's still gonna be pretty crazy. But now a little more kind of in tune, but it's the including Unrevealed cards that really kind of, Cues my interest because that means with initiative you could like prevent anything from happening.
Like it's just kind of crazy how that works. Like it's an initiative. Defining card, you just deny even the playing of a card. So it's, it's kind of crazy, but like for me, lyth holds a lot of value here. Snow guard, I think is a meme. I think you nailed it by the way. I'm gonna say it again. You, you hit the nail on the head. Cozy. I think snow guard cannot release. As it is now at this time, unless they really believe it's better than everyone thinks it is, but I don't think it is. Or
like, yeah, it takes time for it to build up to where it's at or whatever, but no man, I, I think there's some avid snow guard believers and, and even then it is just, they've tried to make it work. There's only 12 cars in the deck and, and it just doesn't belong there. Right. However, Hiton hit monkey's good. It's a snow guard man. I, I, I just can't make a proper assessment because of how bad snow guard is at the moment. I, I feel like
Alyth has the most potential here, but like, there's a chance that alyth kind of just falls in its head like a little bit, right? Like it's because of the change in cost and everything. I think that like, it's obviously less exciting than it was prior, but still has incredible potential. But hit monkey's not making all bounce list. Like hit monkey's getting cut from some bounce list cozy, which is kind of crazy to me.
So that kind of brings it down for me, like when I'm seeing competitive bounce list, not running. Hit monkey. Like, it kind of surprises
me. Hiton is one of those cards, he's not available anywhere else and he's still gonna be that token cost. And we haven't seen him, I don't see him repeating in a little bit. So it's nice to get him if you don't have 'em, but you, you, you're not always gonna use them. He's kinda like he's much, I would put him way higher than like 2099. Right? But like, he's a card that like, oh, it's great to have, but are you going to use it?
So if you plan on playing Hit Monkey and you won a life two, that's where I give it a bit of a better ranking. Now Alex, this to me, as you know, I'm already big on Gene Gray. This is the, the Chef's Kiss Week. This is the personal week that I'm giving the, the flashing all lights go for this week. It's absolutely insane. However, it depends where you're at in Snap because a lot of players went all in on that first week of Spotlight.
They already have Jean Gray zbu I would hope a lot of people have by now. If you don't have Zbu, this is a no-brainer, man. No-brainer. And Alex, before we talk about anything, can we just take a moment, just a quick second. He's here,
our boy. Finally, I.
Mufasa. Yeah. I honestly, Alex, you could have snow guard and freaking WA two, they could just throw in freaking WA two into this and I would still get it just for the za.
I, I agree. I'm so excited about getting this, this variant. I've been storing like, like boosters for so long. You kind of cave though. I saw you actually used a ton of your boosters on the Dan hip. So you didn't see it though. Did you still have some saved up for the Mufasa?
Yeah. Oh, first of all, it was a gold split with gold crackle. I, I'm happy with my option. However, yeah, I'm down to like 400. I have four. I still have like 400 though man. I have so many. I play a lot of sa, right? I have, I have a, I do have a lot, but we have been talking about this as our like white whale of a card for so long in the variant department. Like, so much so that once this releases, just gimme my Jane Foster and I can die happy.
Like I, I am, I'm Ed the Jean Gray, also Beautiful.
Yeah. Actually, on that note you're talking about the Gene Foster, where he has the, the hel she has the helmet, right? Yeah. With the art term. Yeah. But like, okay, so there's two cards. I just want, I know this is kind of off topic, but there's two, two cards in Marvel Snap that disproportionately have the best variance, and it has to be Gene Gray as a whole and null those two cards. There is no variant that looks bad. They're all fun. They're all absolutely insane. Every single one of
them. Yeah, I know a hundred percent man. And even the Ravena Ravens slayer absolutely amazing. Now she's a three, three ongoing. I'm all over the place. Ongoing. Your cars with one or less power costs one less. So read that again. Ongoing your cars with one or less power costs one less. As we know, cost reduction absolutely massive. Absolutely massive. This is a scary looking card on paper and I think it's gonna curve well into Snap.
Both her and the next week's new card is gonna redefine archetypes and redefine the structure of the game in a lot of ways. And for that reason, she may not slap right off the rip. You know, people are gonna open her and they're be like, well, she's cool. She does okay. Once the lists get refined, she's gonna be cracked. Really strong week, excited about it and think this is a good one to go after. Lastly, this week, we are missing information. I have no idea who this could be.
I'm trying to think. You know, they could repeat a stature. We, we really don't know what card's gonna show here. I. However, Mobius seems like a pretty good card too. Your cards can't be increased. Your opponent's costs can't be reduced. I mean, it's worth saying too, that these right now in the data mines, we don't know that they're supposed to be series four, both of them. And if that's the case, I'm all for it, right?
Because then, then, then you could go after the, the week you won, maybe this week, and then you just get Mobius for tokens potentially. 'cause then you got the, you know, you got the weak admissions to help discount that. They would've to have a really strong card here for this week to be insane, in my opinion.
Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of who they hadn't featured yet, but again, like they're already starting to repeat null and others. So it's like, it's like there's, it's not gonna be stagger on. Like, it's like who are we missing? Really? It could be anybody. 'cause if they're starting to repeat, then we really don't have a chance to predict. 'cause like Gene Gray's being repeated already, right? So if
Mobius reactivates the death wave era, I think it's gonna be absolutely insane. So we'll have to stay tuned. All the creators they asked you said the same. They're like, I don't know about this week. It's, it's tough to rate it just off these two cards. So altogether September, man, just fire. Absolutely. All the new cars, I think, are gonna bring something new to the game. We, you know, not like Lady Death strike and, and, and these other cards didn't, but they were all in one archetype.
Whereas these create something new. Plug and play, plug and play. You've got a lith who's cracked and loki's insane. So super pumped about September. Let's end on our last subject and that is ranking the discard archetype. Love when me and Alex do this, we don't know each other's lists. We're gonna be going 10 to one, the best cards right now in Snap in the Discard archetype. And I gotta be honest, I still don't like my list.
I, I, this was harder than I thought because of the importance of when things are played in their weight in the deck. You know, it's not always about the big number, make big man happy, right? Like it's, it's what are the importance in the deck, man? How do you feel about your list so far?
I actually agree. This was really hard and I feel like if I wrote this list, Like multiple times over, they would change ever so slightly. I think that the top is still the top and the bottom is still the bottom. But like so many cards can just flip like this a little bit. Yeah, because like there's also some discard cards which have more universal appeal, kinda like a Killmonger that we made the argument for last week when we talked about destroy.
And then there's cards that just have a very niche appeal. Right. So I don't know. I'm interested in talking about the list and I hope that we're You know, I, I, Hey, I'm kind of hoping I actually pull out something like a carnage on you. I wanna see if I offend you once again this week. 'cause last week you got a little you got a little worked up there. Actually, even the comment section got a little worked up with my diss on carnage and
the disrespect for carnage was, was I won't stand for good, sir. With that, let's go to number 10. I'm gonna allow you to kick it off. What is your number? 10 Best in the game. Discard card number 10th. Number 10 for, for me,
I'm putting Lady CIF at number 10. Dude. Me too.
Sorry I had to interrupt you. That's exactly who I had. And she felt perfect and said, okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. I got,
were you freaked out? I was like, oh no. Did I do it again? Does Cozy have a lady CIF at Tune is gonna try and convince me I'm an idiot. Oh, like God, just, okay lady. Sit fat Ted for me. 'cause like, listen, it's just a great card for those that might not realize in beta, this card was a two for. A two, four, and it's just, it's just a good card. I think that the reliability of the effect is so key, so key.
But there's gonna be times where you're like, well, my highest cost card is modoc and now I have to skip turn three. Yeah.
So, yeah, it's funny because there is like five cards that could have gone on this 10th spot, right? There's nine obvi, not obvious, but semi obvious, and then number ten's like, hmm. Who gets the extra love Targeted, discard is what makes discard reliable. And the more we get those, the better the archetype gets. And we're now, since February, technically, discard has been a powerhouse in Marvel. Snap. I've got Lady Sif at number 10. Number nine, Alex. Number nine.
This my friend, I'll go first. I made you go first last time. This is where I Black Bolt. I've got Black Bolt at number nine. I can't
believe it. We're on perfect pace. Black Bolt's.
My number nine. Let's go. Let's see how far we could go. Lining up, right? Okay. Didn't this feel good? Like better than Lady Sif? However, you need Stature to make him great if you don't get Stature and you only have him, he's weird, but he can be super effective against now something like maybe a death. Black bolt, like lady stiff almost was above him. But I feel like what he's starting to become through the archetype as a whole and not just in the shell, is why I have him at number nine.
I agree. Absolutely. And the thing that really It's okay. This is like the thing I've been thinking about with Black Bull. How do we make a black bolt deck that really performs, that does not just discard a rock? I'm so sick of discarding rocks with Black Bull because the primary shell is that like disruption. Dark Hawk shell, right? And then like, yeah, you discard a rock. Wow. Super cool man.
Like I kind of hope that at some point in time we start getting archetypes that build around Black Bolt. That don't have that disruption piece that can maybe start hitting more valuable pieces. I mean, death, obviously you want, but I don't know about you. I hit a lot of rocks.
Yeah, dude, if they gave him the power the rock thing would still happen. But if they gave him the power thing too, that would be insane. I'm curious if he holds on to this spot at all with Silver Sam Ray, like does he get edged out the list because he does what he does, but better in turn five is so important. Like that's, that, that is what I'm nervous about. We could be seeing the last days of him. Or is it okay to get two options now that you know you can get the sta pop off?
We're gonna have to see, but it's funny we both have 'em at nine. This is where I think we're gonna break up a little bit, sadly. But the, okay. Gimme your eight. I have mine, but let's see what you have.
Eight is where I slot in Colleen Wing. Oh. No,
I don't. Oh man.
I was almost so hyped up for a sec. Yeah, for me, eight is where calling wind comes in. I just, again, targeted, discard I think is super valuable. Two, four stat line. You know, you can discard wolverine, you can discharge swarms. It's just, it's just a good card. Like, honestly, it's, it's really the good card of discard for some degree. Like it's just an amazing satellite. Early in the game sets September Post establishes initiative. I don't know.
I just love calling Wing and I think it's deserving of the eight
spot for sure. I had, you know what's funny is I was back and forth here on call Colleen Wing and, and another card here. I had swarm here and, and swarm is so tough because when you win with swarm, you go like crazy, right? Like you, you just get so many options and you take all the advantage of the locations. But then if you get him and you don't have Calling Wing and then he's sitting there and you have nothing else to play on two, and you're like, I guess I play him down now.
Probably shouldn't because I have Modoc. It's just can be weird. And for that fact, I have him down at eight because he has to have calling Wing as his enabler. For the most part now Silver Samurai could get one to play here. We will have to see. I have him at number eight. How about seven? Well,
seven's my swarm. We, so we just swap, missed each other there. We swap. We swap, swap. Yeah. We literally swapped those two positions. So we, we fell off each other by the slimmest of margins here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, we are basically almost neck and neck here with our picks.
Yeah, I, so I'm calling Wing honestly, Cole could have been five. I had her as high as five at one point because she is, Like purely the best two power play or two cuss play in one session. Like just throwing her out there and having the swarms bang bang. She's like a two 10. Even the Wolverine all also, she's a two eight. Like she's just so good on tempo. I love her. She's even better with Doc and shard, right? So I could have put her at five.
It's just, man, this card's got some sexy names, you know? Hit me with number six.
Okay. You, you definitely have this higher. I'd be surprised if it's your six. And it hurt to put a, like an archetype defining card here at six, but like, This is where Hella is slotted for me. Is it the same?
Yeah, I saw it hella. Yep. I had hella Really? Yeah. I can't believe this. That's the, I thought you were gonna have, you've made like nine videos on Hella lately, so I thought you were gonna be high up on the hella list and you like just won a couple games against some streamers with Hella, so I thought you were gonna have hella higher. Hella was one of those cars that you want to put higher. Because you remember the good times, right?
It's like when you break up with that ex-girlfriend, you're like, man, the good times are good. And then you forgot about all the crazy chaos that happened with her. Yeah, I love it. Tell me why Hella for you.
I. So first of all, yeah, I have that like judge and jury tribunal deck that I've been playing, which is a total meme, but like I have been winning eight cube games with him. 'cause people are like, what is this guy doing? Right? Yeah. And then all of a sudden it's like, boom, tribunal, hella. But yeah, hella is like, there are moments where hella might be a good deck and then you realize like, oh yeah, it's hella and I'm actually just gambling. Yeah. You know what I mean?
It's like it's, it's just. People get to infinite with hella, like I understand that. Yep. But you've chosen a dark path. I just hella has no consistency and it's always one Cosmo way. Or actually even the big thing that's killing hella right now, honestly it's not Cosmo. We're like, oh, it's the Cosmo. No, it's Spider-Man. It's Spider-Man. 'cause they pull the frigging invisible woman all the time and the deck is so prevalent.
So a hella falls off because you have your invisible woman sitting there like this. And Spider, ham spider Man, sorry, comes in and he says, Nope. And whether it pulls Modoc or if it pulls the invisible woman, you're screwed either way. So, yep.
Hella players. Remind me of those friends that you have that are like, Hey man, we're gonna go to Vegas. I cracked the code. I know how to always win in blackjack every time we're gonna be billionaires. Right. And you're like, all right buddy. And then you, then the guy finally realized this. He's in Vegas, to your point. Exactly. Not saying it can't be done. We've seen people get rich in Vegas. It's just. The house is against you most of the time or a lot of the time.
I, I should say the house being other players, decks number five, Alex, we've got ourselves maybe you might think I'm ranking this low, but I think you might have it here. And this is where I struggled because of like the current, I don't wanna, I don't wanna suffer from recency bias is what I'm trying not to do with this ranking. So I'm gonna go ahead and just put it there. I think I'm gonna have Stature here at number
five. I can't believe it. Dude, I stature's my five. SS is my five. This is not planned. This is unbelievable. This is the tightest we've ever been. We've only like missed a swap basically.
So far. We are at, it's so much so that before we started filming, Alex was like, Hey, you know, there's some cards that can be convoluted and discard for the first time. Do you wanna just like go through each other's list? And I'm like, no, we gotta keep it the same, which I loved because now it's like, this is so authentically cool. Listen. Hey, it's episode 43. Alright. If this was episode 10, I would, I would say, no way. We're coming on a year baby of the Snapchat Stature.
Great card, great value, absolutely cracked whenever she was a five seven. Still very good. Going to be good. Going to be better and probably gonna be rained tire after this week. I, yeah, I have her at five.
Yeah, silver Samurai is gonna be a huge activating factor for stature. 'cause right now, like she relies on Black Bolt or moon night and Moon night sees no play. And I think that the targeted discard ability and the disruption of Silver Samurai does elevate this card. And you know what, I'm actually starting to think that, like, moving forward with Silver Samurai, I wonder if Black Bolt goes back to a five eight and stature just stays at a five six.
Yeah. 'cause I, I think when you were talking about Black Bull, I was like, you know what? You're right. It might die. Like, I don't know if Blackboard survives the release of s silver
Samurai. We're gonna have to see man. Depending on how that disruption deck goes. And if that's what you're aiming to do is just disrupting, rather than trying to get the stature pop off, we'll have to see. Four and up is where I think is the toughest because at four and up, all of these cards could be placed in different orders. 'cause they're all good. We're gonna have the same ones. I would assume number four. Alex, let's say at the same time, there's no way.
I think we're gonna mess this one up. I think I'm gonna mess this up for you. Ready, set. 3, 2, 1. Dracula, Dracula.
Can't believe it. Unbelievable. We are like almost step in step. Dracula is definitely my number four.
We had this guy as a top 10 best card in Snap. However times have changed, right? We, we've now had a lot of ways to not only address him, but also just like the way that the deck's working out and we're able to like lock down and curve off and do all these different things that are different now. Still a sensational card, and he could be easily in the top couple spots. It does depend on the meta, but yes, ultimately I've got him at the, at the four zero or at the at the number four.
Yeah. What brings 'em down a bit right now I think is the prevalence of Magneto. I think Magneto is, without question, one of the best cards in the game. Like, not from like a, just straight up like impact, but it does have huge impact. But it's like an Evergreen card that finds itself into many decks. I'm even seeing Magneto being tested in a lot of those craven silk decks. Right. Because of the ability to move stuff into the Craven location.
Yep. With a huge turn six play where you can even still bounce a silk around. Right. So it's kind of crazy how Magneto's still being experimented with, but yeah, it just destroys Dracula. You're not seeing Lady Death write, kill, drop. Dracula or anything like that. Yeah. But I do think that Dracula might have some difficulty with the Silver Samurai list because of its power. So for me that's what kind of held it back.
I know Silver Samurai is coming and I think the deck design around Silver Samurai and Dracula might need some special consideration.
Yep. Agreed. I think Dracula discard it. What is known now as dependable, discard will manage and survive in its own way. But he is gonna struggle to find a spot. Now, in some ways, in those decks, depending on which one is better and more consistent. Number three on 3, 2, 1. Apocalypse.
Apocalypse,
dude,
unbelievable. We're gonna go, we can't believe it. Like I'm actually in shock. Like I cannot believe we've actually gone step in step with one minor
switch outside of the switch. Yeah. Outside of the switch, we are literally locked in. Out of all the cars in the right order is what's impressive. Apac is that card you wanna put at like one because he's like the freaking man dropping the bomb, you know? I love him. He's always six 12, like, you know, like he's always gonna be six 12. If you look at him at that, he's a Hulk. He's so damn good. He's even bigger than that. 'cause he is getting up your other cars like more. I love apoch.
He we don't even need to say much on him. Right? There's number three. He's a great card. In, in, in the, in the archetype.
Yeah. And for me it's also cool, like one of the reasons why I really like APAC as well is because like there's moments where like I've been reading the comics and he's coming up, like he came up in the Kang Infinity comic, which I thought was really cool. He comes up in the you know, the X-Men What's it called? The X-Men animated series. Right? Yep. So it's like really cool to like see this card that like I'm starting to interact with more because of Marvel Snap.
Yeah. Who I had never heard of before. And so like I've actually started to gain an appreciation for who Apocalypse is and what it represents. So yeah, I just also fire variants. All the variants are absolutely amazing for Apocalypse of, and some of them are straight up like covers of the Yeah, like that one. I love it. It so it's, that's a
cover, isn't it? Yep. Oh, dude, they're, they're, all of his variants are fing. Even his pixel is badass. You know, like he's just, that's a reach though. His
pixel's a well, come on. That's a reach buddy. Do you actually
like this pixel? I, I saw that. I like it. I just think it's better than most pixels. He looks like lizard. It's because of, yeah, don't look here. But it's because of the the background actually looks pretty good for one. Like it does look in place. I wonder how it is animated. But anyway, let's get to number two. And this is two in one. We're gonna have the same cards, but it's what order? Let's, let's, let's take it home here. 3, 2, 1. Number two is Mobius. Mobius.
Okay. Hey, we brought it home, baby. We did it. We brought it home. So, and then you finished off with Modoc? Yep. Finished off with Modoc. Let's talk one baby. Unbelievable. I can't believe
it. Cozy,
dude, that was sick. We have never done that. And we will never do it again. Never like, in my opinion, we'll never do that again. 'cause we always have, not only do we not have the same like cards in the top 10, This will never happen again. Peaked. Let's end the Snapchat here. Let's just, this is the last episode. Yeah, just why not? I
guess if you want to end it right now, then we, we can, but I, I think there's so much more to Marvel Snap to talk about. I'm, listen, there's always something to talk about with Marvel. Snap. We, we can't be premature here. Come on now.
It's tough to retire. Not retire on top, but, you know, I, some people didn't like Peyton Manning. Let's let's talk about it. Okay. So I had listen, Modoc defines the archetype as a whole. Like, he, he could. He has eight power. You could play him on his own lane where maybe they didn't play a card. You're building up other lanes with, with our other card in Mobius. And then you can have the discard pop off. It, it the Apoch building. Dude, he's so much more than a five eight.
He's like a five, you know, 20 in a, in a lot of ways, which also speaks to my opinion to obviously the, the Mobius who is often, like, if it listen. And CH isn't getting played that much right now. This card is so cracked. This card is so crazy, man. His power line one and two, easily. I'll give you the floor to close it on the topic.
Yeah, like obviously Morbius has one of the greatest reaches in Marvel Snap from the two costs. Like it's insane what this card is like often a two 12. Like can we just accept that this two cost is a two 12? I think the challenge for Morbius honestly is that like it is traditionally played early, like it's not a dark hawk that you hold till turn six or whatever. Morphous is often the card that has to be on the board on turn two or three, and the result is that it sits vulnerable.
It, it's vulnerable because you often have your invisible woman on two, your moron three or some. I actually been playing invisible women on four to try and like, you know, kind of protect it. And then ultimately you have your modoc into whatever your turn six looks like. Right? But, Morphous is just an insane power spike. And even in like living tribunal decks where you're thinking, oh, living tribunal, like, look at all these big six drops you're running. It's morphous.
It's often like a, a 10 or a 12. Yeah. That lands in the location with onslaught and, and you know, Ironman, that really makes the insane numbers get insane, right? Yeah. So, I don't know. This card does so much heavy lifting for this archetype,
man. It was, it was, it was something special. Something special here to talk about the top 10. I've liked that. We've started to introduce this in every week, like some type of top 10 list. Because it has like great discussion about where the archetypes are and just like different feelings of cards. Everyone has a different play style and way they view 'em. Apparently. Discard, pretty locked in On the, on the cards. Love ranking, the top cards, man. We gotta do it every single week.
Let's go ahead now and talk about PC launch. It's live, the good, the bad, the ugly. We've been waiting, we've been talking about this for how long? Alex Kocha. I. It's arrived buddy. Let's start with the Good PC
launch. Honestly, it's been incredible. I think we've been waiting for this moment for so long. I mean, ever since Marvel Snap came out, it was a mobile first game, which I think was unique in the space. Like, you know, you had hers stone come out that was a PC first game that eventually came out on mobile, and I think that's been pretty consistent. I mean, obviously Magic Arena and other games, like they are, you know, tabletop first and PC first, and then mobile and et cetera.
So for Marvel Snap to come out Mobile first I think was unique. Perhaps it was a strength, honestly. 'cause this game has nailed that kind of experience. So the next stage was obviously the PC launch because we were just basically playing on a emulator. The game ran like crap. It was just the vertical thing. Streamers had to like cut multiple segments on the game and make these weird arrangers. That's why everyone's display looks so different, right?
Because we had to like kind of bandaid a solution together. And now we have this beautiful, beautiful widescreen format and let's get started with the good. For me, the good has to be the collection system. The revamp of the collection. I love the layout. I love the way the favorited cards work. I almost wish that I could disable this might be the not necessarily bad.
I almost wish I could disable the green, like upgrading effect until, like I say, because like it's always happening and it's like, I'm like, guys, I'm just trying to shoot a video about a deck here and there's all this like scrolling green around me all the time. Yeah. Yeah. But honestly, like, tell me, am I wrong? This collection is a huge upgrade.
One of the biggest takeaways, number one was the, the I don't wanna just say the marketing push. It was the belief in it too was so cool. The event, the hype, that was huge on my list and easily. Number two is the collection screen. This to me, right? I think, and we'll get to this, but I, this is what second dinner does. They 'cause they're, they're a small team. They push something out and then they build on it.
This felt like this was got, got some of the most care and that we're gonna gradually see the other screens get to this level and this quality. In fact, one of the the higher ups in on Twitter in Marvel, snap said they're not done with the collection screen. I think her name's potentially Allie that they wanna add even more filtering. The fact that you can just come here now, man, and I can just type in the word pixel and I can get my favorite pixel on five costs.
I can look at, I can look at all my regrets in one decision here. It's so cool. To see this all together right in, in one screen. You can also separate it now and, and make 'em huge and small. The filtering, the deck building experience just got that much better, man. And, and I think this was definitely the best part. Outside of the push on PC launch.
Yeah. And I mean, both of us do a ton of deck building. Like we spend so much time in this screen, crafting decks, experimenting, stuff like that. And to make it much more usable, much more user friendly, I think is huge. I will say though, there's a button there, there's like a card that people like a million questions. Like what does that card do? It shows the cards you don't have. Yeah, dude, the
star. I had no idea. I was like, what? Like, I actually had to play with a couple of these things. I was like, what? What? What's happening over here? I want them to fix like the default avatar thing. Like there's a couple things I can translate a little bit better once you know, from mobile to here as well. But dude, collection screen again. 10 out of freaking 10. Let's talk let's talk another good. Another good here. Do you have another one on your list? I think
another good here is gonna be the actual widescreen play experience. The actual game board itself I think looks very good, widescreen, although I think that the UI placement of like the snap cube and the, the, the energy and things along those lines can be improved. I think there's a better ui ultimately they'll fall on, but I think it's a really good first step, but seeing it play out full and wide screen. It, it just feels like, it feels like so much added real estate that didn't exist before.
It feels like, you know, when you're driving on a street and like the lanes are extra wide, or when you park at Costco and like you have that extra space between the each individual card, that's what it feels like. It feels more spacious, feels more luxurious, and I'm
all for it. Alex Kocha, the man that brings up comparing video games to Costco parking spots is like, why? That just like defines you as a human being and, and this is why I love you. I'll say this. Yeah. It feels like going from like HD to four K and not as far as like the actual, like the way it is, the way it feels, the way that you, it is presented the refresh rate, things like that. So much more stable. Like it just, the game feels better.
It feels like I used to play when I first started only on my iPad Pro back in the day. Now I have a a, a Samsung, but the refresh rate and the hurts on that were so good. That I continue to only wanna play on that. It just felt like a different snap. And now PC has kind of eclipsed that. I like that you said it actually had that on good and bad. It was the battle soon. For the exact reasons, and I'll get to the, the, the, the negatives there.
Yeah, looking at the variants, the launch events the sorting, all that very good. Now, that is where the good stops for me. And it's not that I'm not grateful for the client. I think that they're look it, they've already reached out. For feedback. I know they're looking for that, so I think that's what I'm gonna construct the bad and the ugly to be in that sense. You know, I think ugly may be a tough term, but I get it is, you know, it's just the name of the topic. I guess.
Let's go to bad and, and I'll translate into that battle screen, right? It's almost there. There's some wasted space. I think anytime we, I think we've said this before, expectations create disappointment. I think expectations were maybe that on the quality of Hearthstone and having like little Easter eggs, which don't. The more I think about almost don't only even work all the time, because Instone, you have like a lot of time in between your plays and you're waiting for your opponent to go.
And so you're clicking on the sand and, and snap. It's so fast, you know? But it would be nice to kind of fill the world around. I don't need a deck tracker. There's ones out there. But I, I wanna see something like that. Fill up the space. I wanna see the cube and the energy be movable. I think you know, that would be a, a, a nice little touch. It's pretty good. It's close, but I think it's, it's not quite there. I actually
agree with you. It's a great first step. It looks way better than it ever has. Right. And I feel like we're kind of like having that blessing of like, well, this looks way better than it was before. I actually really like it, but I. You can't help but feel like there's another step, there's another stage where it gets to that next level and you've identified it. Right?
Like I remember during the ro season with her stone, you, you could do the pattern on the drums and it would make like the different board effects happen and stuff like that. Our board is very static, right. It ha it's ever, it has like some animations and stuff, but you can't really interact with it much unless there's some Easter egg we haven't figured out yet. Everyone go out and try and figure out if we can interact with the board, by the way. Let us know in the comments.
But yeah, I think that like it's a great first step. But everything you just said like is right. Like we, we need a little more, I think ultimately. And there is a lot of wasted space. Like even the way, like the, the energy and the, the snap cube are kind of just floating up there. I think the.
I think that they could be in a more, that, I don't wanna say convenient, but some I've accidentally snapped while trying to hit and turn, by the way, because like I've rolled my mouse over it, so it's not unheard of. And I know it's like, yo, Alex, seriously bro. You can play about that. But it happened, right? Like, oh, and the other thing as well, this is actually, this is super notable. This is who I do, this is more on the bad side, but.
What happens is, is I think that some of the effects are too close to the edge of the top of the screen. Like spider ham, I don't, I don't know how they compressed it, but spider ham can sometimes, like I, it's like it's too high, so it can almost be easy to miss the effect. Ah, Uhhuh yeah, I don't like, I know that's just a me thing, but like it does feel a little elevated based on where the actual screen is.
And that actually happened to me at rivals where I think it was poor sleep deprivation, but, Actually, this is okay. This is my first transition into like the potential ugly. The only ugly I had was that there's still bugs that shouldn't be happening in it. Like for instance, the Iron Lad still showing the card face down. That that drives me insane because it actually impacted me at rivals where my opponent played Iron Ladd with the Patriot list. And because it comes in.
On its face Down. I had to click it to see what it was, and while I was clicking it, spider Hamm hit a card and they overlapped on the interface. I couldn't see what Spider-Man hit in the moment, right? It ended up being Legion, and I didn't know that, and so I had to play my turn completely differently. And then later on, because once again, iron lad hits. Down face down, I, it, it turned into a limbo.
I thought my opponent had a magic, but it was actually a scarlet witch that happened to pro a limbo effect. And then, so they were able to kill the limbo with a scarlet witch later on. And the, again, the iron lad brought it in face down, and I just assumed trying to save, you know, some, some mental energy that Oh, they hit their magic. Yeah, but they didn't even have magic in their deck. It was a scarlet witch.
So like, those small things I think need to be improved overall, and I think they'll get there. Yeah,
I, the way that I see it is like the, there's like the lock jaw bug or something like that. Like the reality is their team isn't huge. And so what they're trying to do is they look at their fire list and they're like, okay, what do we fix now? Right. And this had so many people that were directed to it, the V F X team, that I think that they, they wanted to get it out. And I am in, I'm in full confidence that this will be completely amped up.
I, I, I am full confidence that this is gonna be amped up mainly because of a few because of the ugly. I, I give the whole thing a 10, outta 10. And again, I think if it's in the bad, it's because of the expectations maybe and the weight around it. In, in, in some co in some cases I did forget in the good, I actually love the new collection screen, the collection level screen. It just looks much better than on your phone. Like they have the spotlights to the left. It looks a little bit cleaner.
They're ugly. Actually. Hold on The main menu. I'm gonna go there real quick. On the bat I have the main menu. We're close. They did talk about having music per season, and that's gonna create such a cool, immersive experience of the season. Like, I cannot wait man. However their game modes is one of the biggest things to highlight, and they feel like an afterthought just kind of under there.
Just like, oh, conquest and friendly battles, whereas like the left and the right of the season and the news where maybe that's where those could be. Or maybe you have at least the news is that, and the news could be a tab, like just the priority of the layout. Right. But I, I think that's also gonna get reconstructed a little bit. But that like, that's a bad, not an ugly, but a bad for me. I was like, okay, maybe we can work on the main menu. Do you feel that way at all? I do,
actually. I kept clicking instead of clicking. Collection, I kept clicking conquest and confusing the two over and over again. That's just maybe 'cause it was new. And also like the, there's me, there's often quests that are like hidden. Like you don't see all your quests that are available and stuff like that. But again, this is a first time iteration. Yeah. Small. Like this is the 1.0.
Yep. And like, it's funny, like in this conversation when I actually made my notes when it's like good, bad and ugly, I just wrote a bunch of goods. I was like, what are the bad? I was like, what? I actually didn't really think about what bad was. And I'm like, ugly. I'm like, there's nothing really ugly. And like, I had to really reach, right? Like we're, we're kind of reaching here, like there's really no ugly in this. Two weeks ago
we had listen for those on the good old Reddit train like two weeks ago. We had a whole like, this is what we want changed on the game. We went to town there. We definitely, like, I, I think we're pretty vocal now on what we want changed. I, I had to figure out the topic name and that's why I did good, bad, ugly. It, it's not really that. It's Paul. It's probably like what I like the most. What's good, not great. And then what needs to be improved significantly or disappointed?
Me, I guess that, that's like the way that I would say the new title with that. I think it's quite obvious what, what I would put a as an ugly here. And that's gotta be the amount of things that were clearly ported just from mobile with a wider screen and mainly conquest. I was actually like, what the conquest screen is just like a portrait mode and then nothing. And, and that was like, oh, that was a bummer. I am pretty confident that they're gonna change that. I would hope they will.
I think like slowly but surely, even the shop. Right. Did that take you by surprise? I was a little surprised
by that. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, now that you mentioned it, and even like conquest kicking you back out to the main menu kind of confuses me a bit. I'm like, what, what just happened? What did I play? Was that a ranked match? Like what's that? Like? It's, it's just bizarre how it works. No, you're right. I hadn't actually thought about that, but No, you, you do have a good point there that that could use some improvement. Yeah,
so some of the portrait stuff, I, if it's wide screen, I want all the screen to feel like the collection screen. Like if I'm gonna play on pc, I want a unique individual experience, I think is what. Or else I would just play on mobile 'cause it looks crisper and it's full screen on that. And not, not to shout 'em out just randomly, but the galaxy fold, man. That is the best way I've played. Snap still is.
But yeah, so that is what I would hope to see and I think that they're gonna continue to improve on this as a whole. Do you have anything
else? Yeah, I got one more. I got one more that just hit my head. I was actually kind of surprised to see no, like sliding graphics options. Like there was no like you know, They don't like when you open a PC game, there's like texture quality, very high, high, whatever. Shadow is very high bloom effect. They're like all those types of things. We're missing a lot of that stuff. Right.
Which I think could be helpful ultimately, and I think, again, we're in the early stages of the PC 1.0 and I'm sure they'll start to add more of these PC specific features as time goes on.
Yeah. It's the same as mobile, right? It's like low, medium, high. And I'm like, ah. You know, I think yeah. Yeah. I, I. I agree. Just like a bit more customization. 'cause we are on the PC build after. All right. Now with that, we're pumped. We're excited to see where it goes from there. And officially, hopefully now what I actually wanna see is all the cards get effects again. I want them to go back to that now that the V F X team is done on the on at least, you know, temporarily on that side.
Do we go to our next subject? Do you. Anything else to say there? Yeah,
I do have something to say actually. How dare you say there's not enough V F X. You have been doing nothing but posting Kirby Crackle variant after Kirby Crackle variant. I don't think audio viewers can't see it. How fire have these, the death you put up about like five minutes ago? I actually stopped listening to you for a second. I'm like, that death's insane. Like, like I don't understand. How are you getting this variant luck like this Ironman's incredible.
We've talked about it before, like it's just, it's mind boggling. Cozy. Cozy. How often are you splitting cards to the Just near
perfection splits. I think what it comes, this is what it comes back to. D Dexter asked me the same thing because I played so much in beta, like a ridiculous amount in beta. I have like on some of these cards, like Ironman, I have so many splits of this guy, like I've had millions. So when I split 'em, it's like I'm now on like version number 20 of Ironman. Right. So I, I, I do have a lot of like, like morus too. I just had the gold morus up, dude.
I have like, I don't know, I got a 12 plus of Morus, right? So it, that's what helps me. But my gold luck is insane. It is, it is. I, I'm a lucky man. I'm a lucky man. I, I'll say that like, dude, I just got this the, they have the anime bundle up here, and this is another one. I get it guys, you know, roast me. I should've waited for the Snapchat here. This storm dude is so, it is, it is remarkable.
Oh, buddy. I could actually compete with that. I have a gold storm as well. And then I got a inked, Kirby crackle storm as well. So, because I had like, I had like 900 boosters. Yeah. So I just kept splitting it. I just kept splitting it over and over again, and I got a gold and I, I held it at the I held it at the gold border like you have right now. And I'm like, you know what? It's storm. It's storm. I think the infinity border might look.
Okay. I'll send you a screenshot just so you know, just in case. Yeah. Sometimes it ended up looking pretty good because I know, like I, I almost never upgrade my gold carts past the gold border. Yeah. Yeah. And then I got the infinity split with the the, the black crackle. So it was pretty cool.
I wish you could get like a golden flooding or whatever. It would go with the location. That's right. Right. That's great. Alright, well let's go to go to our next subject, ma'am. We brought it broke down for a good chunk of time, the PC launch. Fire. If anyone from second dinner's listening great stuff it definitely delivered and, and the hype around it. Quarter of a million people can't complain. Insane. The, the absolutely colossally insane, biggest sleepers at every cost.
Now, I'm gonna spoil Alex's five cost. But the reason why we're doing this is because this man, Picked Kang a couple weeks ago as one of his favorite cards this season. And I had my mouth wide open. I had, if Alex was eating a banana on stream, I had the same face. I was just like, what's happening here? And you won up to the cha, the semi championship I, I'll stand by. I think that's the deck I have gone against that deck. Dude. K in that deck is filthy.
And that's what sparked this conversation, man. We'll talk about it more when we get to five. Let's start with the one cost. Alex, hit me with your sleeper. At one cost. So this
is a card that I think is being completely underappreciated in Marvel Snap. And a lot of people ask me like, Hey, what do I replace this one cost? Like, well, I don't have kitty pride, or I don't have, like, people ask me and I'm like, guys, Are we forgetting that Iceman exists? Like, I cannot believe Iceman is not seeing the play that it, it deserves. This card is completely cracked. Like we're in a combo centric meta right now. Yeah. Iceman hits a piece that they're, your opponent needs.
It's modoc. Like what do they do? Like, it's like, it's crazy how good this card is and it's kind of fallen off. And I, I, listen, I'm not saying I wanna see Iceman in every deck again. 'cause like that's also pretty annoying. This, this card, honestly, is way better than people give a credit for right now.
It's funny because I actually had iceman, slash echo. I had iceman and it came, you know what it was, was the brief time that spider ham was such a better play, pushed him down and people forgot. Ice man's insane. He's still great. He's incredible in combo and curve. If we would've said ice spin was a slept on card, people would've been like, dude, why don't you just say like, you know, America Chavez has slept. Yeah. Like the best cards in the game. But he has been lately. And I agree. Echo it.
This does line up with my my favorite card echo's not for everybody. I, I, I think the thing about her, what I like playing her the most in is, first of all, people just for people just forget about her. I've gotten stupid amount of cubes from people playing their, their cars on the lane, but outside of the cheap winds there.
What I love is ultimately in lockdown decks, if you lock down a lane and you have echo in the other and you can identify the deck you're playing, it's not even the fact that you like, oh no, they don't have to play on that location. It's that, you know, they can't. So like I love the fact that I'm like, I'm winning this lane by to, or I'm losing it by four, and they just built up a devil dinosaur to the sun. I know they cannot play it there. Like I know they can't.
So then I just build up that lane and win. It's not about stopping all the cards, it's about having the control and the power over the location.
So after last week's discussion, I started playing more Gene Gray and Echo. I thought it was a brilliant combination play by you and I'll, I gotta say, the videos you've been releasing lately with the combination have been fantastic and I actually became a believer in Echo, but it's still sometimes feels like a dead card.
Yeah. Like sometimes it feels like you have matchups, you're like, well, They're playing destroy, or even then, like obviously you have null, but they just don't play their null there. Right? And then there's, but there's some matches that just like, they're playing balance. You're like, okay, what's my echo doing?
I think Glen actually did answer before that the hardest card to ever balance was echo. I, I'm pretty sure that's what he said. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I get it because you can't, it's not, it can't be like Iceman where you could play him at any time. He feels like a dead card, except on turn six. Echo needs to have a time and a place like every car where she's not great, great, right? And the kill mongers exist, so that is there too. But you have to have her in the armor lane.
She's even better now because there's armors everywhere because of destroy being so hot. I love it. I think she slept on for sure. Number the two cost though, buddy. Who do you have at two costs?
So at two costs. I mean, this is where I think I get a bit of a spicy pick and I'll accept the roasting, but this is like, I don't wanna say it's a sleeper, but like, this might be very underappreciated. I, I'm gonna say Sentinel. I. Because I feel like so many people try to figure out ways to take Sentinel outta their deck. And I'm like, why? Yeah. Why are you taking Sentinel? Like why are you playing C three and taking Sentinel?
Like why are you playing whatever deck you're playing and taking Sentinel? Why did you cut Sentinel from your double dinosaur deck? Right? And you don't even have a Mirage or whatever. It's like, no, this card is good. And I think people see Sentinel as like this beginner card that they can just get rid of eventually.
But I'm like guys, This is a good card and you, you can often prioritize playing Sentinel on two when you have a hand that you know, okay, well I get to play Sentinel and plus one two, drop on two is on four, sorry. So like I think this card is honestly underappreciated in Marvel Snap. I think it's being slept on, on how valuable the effect actually is. And so this is my pick and I have a special mention of Spider Hamm too. 'cause I do think Spider Hamm is not as sleeper.
I think it is kind of well known as being a good card. I think that it's moved from. One power to two power did hurt it, and it took it out out of a lot of people's decks. But in conquest, it still slaps. But ultimately I do think that Sentinel needs more respect than it gets. Yeah. For
Sentinel, I think it's, it's funny. In C control. I see him replace the ton. But the thing is, the reason why even the base pull three list slaps is that the Nova combo to push all that power at the end works because you have sentinels all over. Like you want more cars out there. Mysterio does do it a tadd better because the cheap cost. But you're having two threes on the board making 'em two fours. A hundred percent agree there. I did mine the exact same. My layered mine out.
Where I've got one where it's like this is my pick. And I have kind of an honorable, a scarlet witch man right now in the Legion Meta, in the control meta where we're at in limbo. The three, it just, listen, Legion is cracked because of location, variance and change. Scarlet Witch does that exact, not the exact thing, but she does an effect. Like it and people have gotten more comfortable of why saving space there to change the location, to take away the net of Valier is so important.
And so I do have Scarlet Witch, heck, you just talked about it. One of the reasons why I did end up in resulting in a surprising shock. I know that Iron LA was re you know, in that but Scarlet Witch definitely is my sleeper. However, I didn't wanna pick two new cards. But Mirage is, is beyond disrespected. I have seen Mirage on, on tier list and, and whatnot. I, I put her in as many decks as I can. That makes sense with her. She's awesome, dude. I love the card.
I've been playing more Mirage ladies, especially with the weekend mission, which was the devil dinosaur one. I'm like, Hey, hey, that's a, that's a great weekend mission for me. I'm a huge double dinosaur enjoyer. So I was like playing a lot of mirage. I'm like, man, it does feel really good to pull their brood with a plus two. Like, you know what I like? It's just, So cracked. It's great. Like it is, it is a good card for sure. And I've, I've kind of fallen in love with playing it early.
Like I kind of had this idea of like, oh, if I play it on turn five, I could copy their death or whatever, which is still good if you're against a destroy player. But still just playing it on two and just picking up their turn three or four play with huge, huge value. I think it, it's just great. It's, it's, it's a fantastic card. I, I love the pick and I mean, maybe you're right. Maybe it is one of the most slept on cards, but I, I think also less people have it, right? Like it is, it,
it people don't have it a lot, which is why, listen, I couldn't go to echo to Mirage and then to Jean Gray, so I don't have Jean Gray on three. I don't, I, I, I should, but I don't. But I actually have locked jaw as my sleeper in the three costs. Once was just a god of snap over here. Finally on the rise again a little bit in these high evil lock jaw decks and or Jane Jaw.
I just don't see the respect for the good dog anymore, and I think that deck is so much better than people giving it credit for and it's working in the meta at the moment because of just pure power and what it can pump out in reliance. Every time
I look at like METAS stats and I look at high evo and high Evo lock jaw and just, just gene jaw, everything, well lock jaw. It is so high when Right. Compared to some of the other decks that are more popular. It's really kind of mind boggling. It's like the high evolutionary, you took off one pro off wasp and everyone's like, oh, lock jaw's dead. And they just blew. I'm like, no, it's not like, listen, the double ProCon was, was insane. It's still good.
It's still a one zero, A zero one or whatever that you pointed a lock on. You're pulling like big, chunky, gigantic out or whatever it is, or vision, which has got buff two, right? Yeah. So it's like, it's pulling like absolute Chad cards out. Like I, you know what, I, I have a pick two, but I, I think I agree with yours more. I think Lara is being insanely disrespected.
Dude, can I say this too? I remember when they nerfed quinjet, so it couldn't take one cost down. We're like, They ruined quinjet. The, the, the horror bro, I couldn't even imagine. Sometimes I have a de, like a, a demon in my hand and I'm like, dude, could you imagine if this, that this crap could be discounted? Like, it, it, I'm, that was a change that needed to happen. I, I actually think I. Glen said that Thanos locked jaw with the quinjet was the best of deck ever was in Snap. It's
funny because when you were talking about the, oh, people crying over quinjet, I mean, I literally almost broke tears when Quinjet got changed. Yeah. So like I was one of them. Right. So so you're saying that Glen said that the. The zero cost. Stone lock Jaw, Thanos was the most broken. Any deck's ever been
negative in the beta and that were the two stronger sides of from data that they could see. Yep. That's what I saw In insane, in a discord discussion. That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of crazy. That's, that's insane.
So, yeah, I, I like your pick here. My pick's a little spicier. Okay. You know, it's a little spicier, a little bit of hot sauce here today. There's a card that I think is a build wrong card and I'm not saying it gets disrespected, but I think it's better than people are giving credit for in multiple iterations and that is cerebral. Okay. I actually feel like, listen, I've won gold conquest with cerebral, both cerebral three and cerebral two. Mm-hmm.
I think the change to magic really helps cerebral two. I think that there's enough three drops in cerebral. They're good. Like lady listen, lady death strike my cerebral list with lady. Death strike is actually legit. And I give you full credit. I got the idea from you. You actually said, Hey. Cerebral probably works with ladies desk, right? And I was like, I didn't even think of that. And what I did was, I'm like, I'm gonna think I'm actually gonna make the list. And I did.
And I'm like, this actually works was right. This is a great list. Right? So like, I actually think the cerebral is, I'm not, I don't wanna say competitive, like you're not gonna see cerebral in a tournament, right? Like, it just, it won't happen. But at the same time, I think the cerebral archetype is, is getting better. And every single time a new card gets added to Marvel Snap, every single card could potentially be another card for cerebral.
We joke about how with Silver Surfer, every three drop is a potential silver surfer card, but every card in Marvel Snap is a potential cerebral card.
Great point. And I actually, I was actually gonna bring them up. When we were talking about a alyth, right? C five is competitive. C five does work competitive for cerebral terms. Alyth is also gonna be a five, and he fits into that slot and also counters and then gets the boost up, right? So it's like, you're right. It it's funny, live by the sword, die by the sword cerebral. Every new card synergizes with him. Every O T A hurts him.
So it's like this weird, you have to be very flexible when playing with cerebral, but he's having more and more play. I like the pig dude, that, that was a good one. Forecast, I'm gonna allow you to kick it off, sir. For me
at forecast, one of the sleeper picks this month is Moon Girl. Oh, now Moon Girl. I've been sliding into so many different decks for a variety of different reasons, right? First of all, I've been playing a lot of She Knot. I do think that she Knot is one of the best decks in the current meta. If you're trying to rank up, get the infinite or push yourself in conquest, because it, it naturally just works well with the armor of the Cosmo in that general play style.
But most importantly, what Moon Girl allows you to do, Moon girl allows you to get multiple She Hulks for instance, you can play for free on turn seven, which can be absolutely immense. You also have she sorry, moon girl that works wonderfully in devil dinosaur decks because obviously you're able to replicate Devil dinosaur while ultimately filling your hand.
Like if the devil dinosaurs on the left side of your hand and you replicate your hand, then you have two devil dinosaurs and a stacked hand, right? Which is absolutely fantastic. So Moon Girl's, one of those cars, I think is kind of being slept on right now simply because it can be a little. Unwieldy and enc cumbersome to play because like, you know, you gotta count your hand, make sure you don't overfill and stuff, your draw and stuff like that.
But ultimately, I do think that Moon Girl is a really interesting card in Snap right now. Yeah,
I agree with what you said, buddy. I, I think moon girl, the thing that's cool is I'm always thinking like, can I fit her in the deck? Right? Like when I, I was thinking about even what card was coming up, coming out I'm gonna lose it. But whether dawkin, you could say Dogan as early as him, where it's like, okay, the double the shards, that could be kind of cool. You know what it was? It's Silver Samurai. Do I go for two Statures, right? Like there it, it can I make her work.
But does she have that synergy Moon Girl's a fun pick that I do think slept on and her this variant. I finally have one that I'm like excited about with her and it was given on Twitch drops. Super scroll is going to be mine. And I know it's crazy, but I think the best time. It's a take. I think he slept on because that's when he is best. Right? If you look at the ongoing cards right now, obviously we have a lot of great ones out there and Super Scroll does that and just does it better.
So like, you know, we got the Patriot list. That's crazy with the boosted bro. Listen, if you could take their patriot, you're gonna win the mirror match, right? I feel like super scroll is only good when he's slept on kind of like Antron in a different way. I'm not even playing him that much. I'm just trying to get the word out there that if you see ongoing, continue to rise, that's when he works best. Be the first one to play him, not for us to be like, how did we miss that?
It's been months now. Super school's great. Play him when people aren't, which is why I like him. And I think a lot of forecasts right now are in a good spot, and so I felt like he was more of the slept on area. Even though I could always give it to Jessica Jones 'cause I kinda like her as a card.
But yeah, we were in the conquerors event and a lot of people were playing that dark Hawk style deck. The way to beat them faster was to tech in super scroll. Right. Easily. It's like I just text in. All of a sudden I'm like, whoa, you just lose now because I have super school and you don't, and now like you just can't do anything. Yep. So you're right. I wonder if that card really shines in like more competitive formats as opposed to like just ladder. Right. Or even conquest.
I wonder maybe super school is really being slept on because thinking back to conquest, The conquerors event, sorry. It really did amplify my ability to win games quickly
and anytime Patriot's on top, which it is at the moment, it's in a good spot. Super scroll's. Great, right? And, and then you also have the Dark Hawk and it's free points. It, it's usually like an eight at the worst. Blue Marvel is everywhere. Blue marvel's in like every deck. And so yeah, I do, I love 'em. I love 'em a lot more than I thought I would. And not to mention a null counter dude, I just think he's a great card at the moment. Five cost cards, man. I am going to go, I think.
It's funny I, my heart wants to say my girl, you know the tough part about Arrow, even though I do love her right now, we're not exactly only on one big card finishers at the moment. We have combo decks going, which is why I've got Dr. Octopus as my most slept on five cost card. We are in the most combo heavy meta that we've been in in a while. So many decks are trying to do combos or they have like these big powerful finishes and galactus and knoll and death.
Pulling all that in one lane is brutal, absolutely brutal. And you can follow it up with a Shung chi. Cock always feels like a card. I like to slot into a deck when I'm sick and tired of losing a combos, man. 'cause this is the fastest, surefire way to mess it up. You have 10 power to boot. Yeah, he's guaranteed to die by their shung chi that you naturally pull, but then it sets you up for later turns. We're seeing limbos, which is fine 'cause then you could get that going.
The limbo deck with Shehu and Infin is so damn annoying, man. It's so hard to beat it on priority. Pull 'em all out there, get 'em to play early and then destroy it later. That's what I like doing. You know what I, this is
a momentous Snapchat. Usually it's me showing up with these insane hot takes all the time. And now cozy, cozy iss coming up with the hot takes. And what blows me away all is if we circle back like three months. You were talking about how Doc Cock was the most hated card in Snap because of the G Galaxy interaction. Oh, I hate, like you were actually getting mad. Oh, I hate him talking about do hate screw this car. And
now here you are. I hate him. No, I hate 'em. There's no, it, it, listen. Make your enemies cl become best friends with your enemies. You know what I mean? Keep 'em close. Keep an eye on him. That's what I'm doing. Alright. I hate him. I'm just saying he slept
on That's funny, man. I, I couldn't, I would never have predicted you saying doc a like, that's nuts. Almost as insane as me last week. Talking of Kang and then being like, guys, Kang is being slept on. And cozy is like, no, no, Alex cozy Kang's not being slept on. You suck. It's like, listen, it was crazy because I, I get it. Okay. Kang on paper, probably not the best ladder card, and I do think from a value perspective can actually see some improvement.
But what I will tell you is this, when cubes matter most and everything's on the line, like a competitive tournament, like with the Twitch rivals experience, I had, this Kang card honestly won me more games. Than I could possibly have imagined more individual cubes than I could have imagined. And I remember talking to my chat and being like, guys, listen, like that's another K Snap cube win right there. And I'm playing against the best players in the world right now.
It's just if you really consider how much value you're getting from a two cube retreat from a K snap in a semi-final for Twitch, rivals like that is immense that this card carried its weight so much. And if anything, I hope. I do hope that people start to see the value that Kang could potentially provide in competitive scenarios. But I have a, I have a big caveat here. I still go back to my first thing that I said when Kang was first announced.
I'm not convinced it's good for Snap because it does bring the game down to a complete crawl. It slows the game down in a very deliberate way, but, I love the mind game side of it. I love the fact that, does your point play the exact same hand? Do they change it? Or if they know I have Kang, but but what if I just don't play Kang? Are they gonna play suboptimally to play around my Kang on turn five or six and then I just hit 'em with my combo anyway and they just lose the game?
It's crazy what this card does. But at the same time, its effect is so polarizing that I'm at odds with myself
sometimes cozy. So it can definitely dude, you were right. I definitely in that deck too. It just works out so damn good. It allows you to sometimes beat players that are better than you just because you've seen what their, their, their, their turn is. Right. I've lost to it in conquest. I'm like, I could've beaten that, but I thought I outthought myself here. You know what I mean? The cheap snap cubes are great. What I'll say too is it does depend on the meta.
If it's just big giant cards, it's tough to win. But in a combo deck and or destroy, where destroy is like do they've got the death? Do they have the, what is, what are they gonna play in conjunction with the Deadpool? Are they going to eat the nimrods? Are they gonna gotos? Whatever it might be. This is where he is working out so good right now. 'cause you get to, you get the ace in the hole, you get to see what they have and you can simply change it up. Dude. Hey, congrats buddy. Congrats.
He definitely showed up big for you in the Twitch rivals. We'll end it on six costs, man. Listen, I, I've been, I didn't wanna pick obvious. For me, sleeper means like in fantasy football and just did a draft. Sleeper is someone that no one's expect. It's someone who's flying under the radar. So it, listen, all these six costs, they're gonna have a, a, a place in in a lot of decks, I would say. Tron was close. I thought you were gonna pick him, so I was gonna let you pick him.
I went with leader. It's, it's funny because I don't even know if this is the meta that he's being slept on because there's combo decks going out at the moment. But what I will say is, dude, I. Leader is great. It just needs to be big Card ending finishes when Arrow is good, leader is good. When you've got like these brew decks and they're finishing off with a Patriot surfer, it doesn't do you a lot of good. However, I think a leader as a card, I. Just keep your eye on him.
He's the six cost out of all the six costs that I'm like, eh, he's not getting enough, enough love out there.
He's definitely the most surprise of the cards. Like we talk about surprise cards. He is, I think the six cost surprise card like mine, I'm gonna talk about. Soon comes close, but I think leader right now is the ultimate surprise card on turn six. No one. It and you're still capturing their highest power card, right? Like it's still their highest power card, not their last play card, like Arrow or anything like that.
So you are guaranteeing that you're getting their, the, the chunkiest of their plays. But yeah, man, no one expects leader right now. And I've even played like leader with Odin, but then that becomes a little more obvious
where, where I like 'em the most, like where I've been playing him the most. And if you wanna play leader, this is what I recommend is you play him in a destroyed deck or the she Hulk deck. Because playing him alongside a potential free death or a free she hulk is what's crazy. 'cause then you're playing leader, you're playing 14 power or 11 power, and then you're copying their best card. You gotta have the space for it, Alex, but that's what makes the most sense
for him. That's cool too. And I mean in those decks too, I think I always play Jeff. 'cause then you can basically top off the she hawk with that extra three power with the movement of Jeff at any location you want. Right. So I like that. I like that's a really spicy pick. Mine's not quite as spicy, but I know you're gonna love it. 'cause you love the card. It's sola. Right. Zola's a card that I think always catches people by surprise.
And this past weekend obviously Double Dinosaur was the featured mission, which by the way, these missions are so improved. Oh yeah. They made the mission so much better. Oh my gosh. Thank the, like, oh, when I saw those missions, I actually started like, Tearing up a little bit with Pride. I was like, this is exactly what we needed. Just be better rewards, less intense requirements. And I said, Hey, when getting into Devil Dinosaur, no problem.
I'm gonna drop Zola on that Devil dinosaur 'cause ain't nobody expecting Aum. Zola and I play Devil Dinosaur. And it's great Aum Zola always catches people by surprise, especially outside of traditional destroyed decks. Yes, naturally you have the Venom plays, which are great, but honestly, Zola Dinosaur, Zola even Ronan to some extent, which I was experimenting with. Dino's better just saying that. But I do think that Zola is a surprising card that people don't often respect.
And I think it's being slept on. It's an extremely powerful effect. It can access multiple locations that you might not be able to play into. And honestly, it's one of those cards that steals a cubes and
conquest. Yep. You'd always been a Zola fan. Agree. I'll never, never disagree with that. Take buddy. Dude Zola. He may not be the, you know, the archetype defining card, but he's very, very good. Which does take us to our last subject and that is, The MVPs, the archetype. MVPs I've got a list here. Destroy, discard, automobile, ongoing and even patriot. I wanted to sneak that in there. Who are your MVPs in those lists? What is the one car that you think carries the archetype?
Let's start with destroy 'cause we're in that. I'm gonna go and sort here. We're in. Destroy it. Let's get away from this. Here we go. Alex, what is your M v P for? Destroy.
So I'm gonna hit you with a bit of a curve ball 'cause I kind of cheated a little bit. I have, I have a, a name and then, but also because I do think that there's like the fun card that I knew you. You're like, come on, Alex. Okay. Here's an example for destroy the true archetype. M v P. It's venom. What's the, yeah,
what's the one? Yeah, this is the one you submit on your ticket. Like this is it. Yeah, it's venom. It's
venom. You, you pick venom, but it's also nimrod. Like, it's kinda like, it's like it's venom, venom's really the card that holds the whole archetype together, in my opinion. But nimrod right now, in terms of a meta relevance perspective, it's just so good. I can't even believe the words are coming outta my mouth. That venom that nimrod is so good. Nimrod is the way I play destroy right now. I just, I can't get enough whether it's Nimrod, destroyer Nimrod, sure. You destroy.
I just, it doesn't matter. I love seeing the woo woo woo all over the place. It just makes me so happy. So yeah, it's venom, but it's also just nimron,
For me. Yeah, venom was on mine. My, I, mine was, the other one was Killmonger because the presence of X 23. Now, I just think that he's just continuing to play more of an importance. Venom is my M V P. Couldn't agree. More. Because you look at him in Carnage and you're like, who plays the bigger role there? Getting the main chunk? Obviously Alex doesn't think Carnage gonna have to keep on convincing the man. Somehow.
I left out, move on my list, buddy, but I can think of one easily on the fly here. Who right now is your M V P for the Move Archetype? For Move?
It's Captain Marvel, but also Jeff. Who's on, who's on the ticket? A move card. But like, come on. It's Jeff. It's Jeff. He, how can you not talk about Jeff, but it's Cab Marvel for me. Look at this absolute fire split again. The anime into the ink stick, right. With these the stars. Absolutely. Beautiful, cozy, always on top of things with the, the variance. Yeah. Captain Marvel for me is the king of move queen of move, I should say.
It's just because like, You just, you never like the math, everything about Captain Marvel, it's just, it throws everything out the window. On turns six. You're like, well, she can move there. She can move here. Maybe she doesn't move there. She calculates craven. I plead Captain Marvel first. So I'm going first then like, it's just wild how Captain Marvel interacts with Marvel Snap. I think it's, I think it's the king of move right now.
Yeah. So it's like this card or that card type of thing. I'm gonna go with Craven at this meta. I think he's the M V P for this meta. 'cause you have the craving down your marvel's now the, the four seven the continuer buildup. There are times when you move things around and you get like just all of a sudden a two weight cr for doing nothing. He to me is like the Mobius of move now and he just feels so damn good outside of the initial turn of getting him down there.
Sometimes you're like, damn, all I did was get craven. I'm out priority for a while, but, I love Craven in this meta. I've got him in my M V P, but I get the Captain Marvel. Such a damn good card at the moment. Discard. We already did our top 10 list on my side. Alex, would you say Modoc or Mobius on the top? It's Modoc.
It's Modoc? Yeah. Because like without Modoc, you're not even playing discard anymore. Like you can try to replace it with hell cow, but it's like, nah. Yeah. Also best variant. Best pixel
in the game. Beautiful. Yeah. Modoc, we set our points. I, I'll let that one slide just 'cause that, that was, that one was pretty easy to, to talk about. Ongoing is always difficult because of what the archetype represents. But who would you have as your ongoing M V P?
I found this one to actually be the hardest. This was the one who was like, man, like you kind of wanna say onslaught because what it does for ongoing, like it just makes ongoing, super ongoing. Mm-hmm. But it's not actually onslaught. I think the M V P right now, Despite the prevalence of Jeff Rooney has to be prox dude. Right? Isn't it kind of prox? It has to be, right?
Mine were, it's funny you say that. My two were, 'cause prox, it's like, how is it not prox? Because of what is the meta right now? I had it. It was so close. 'cause was good. Whatever. It was so close not to put Luke Cage just because of his variety and what he does and what the Met is at, and the spreading wide is so important. But ultimately you can't even spread wide if Pro X is out there. So I had pro, I did have Pro X too. I'm glad that you said that. I'm glad we agree.
But dude, blue, Marvel, Ironman Devil, dinosaur. No, they're all good. They're all good. This was a tough one here as one representation. I, I do agree there though. Pro X just, he's so cracked. So many good ways to play 'em. What about on Reveal?
Before we do that though, this is the first, I just realized while you're saying Pro X, I'm like, why does it sound so weird? It's 'cause you always say Pro X, you always say Pro X. And I think I, I kind of sent you off by saying Pro X first. Is it Pro X or Pro X? What's the actual proper
abbreviation? I think I Pro X Elaine? Yeah. Prox Elaine. No, I don't know. I like a both. I like 'em both. Tomato, tomato maybe. Actually it's tomato. But yes, I do. I like 'em both. But honor reveal I thought was more difficult and then it became easy right now for me to pick. How about you? Was it difficult for you to pick this? No,
this was the easiest for me. I was like, there's one card. There's one card. That really stole my, my
heart. Okay. Did we, did we want to, did you want me to go first or you,
I want you to go first. I wonder if we're picking the same card though. Like my, I'll tell you, mine is holding a guitar on your screen.
Ah, yeah. So, Legion was the one I I have the slash next to the name, so I have, yeah, so for me it's Legion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Mine, mine is absorbing man. I think he's busted at the moment. I think he's stupid Good right now on Snap. Like just stupid good in the game, but I respect the legion
pig. Yeah. No, I think you're actually right. I think it really is absorbing man to be, to be completely fair. Like my heart speaks legion, but my body says, wait, did I get that backwards? It's my body says legion, but my heart says, It's neck. Neck. I, I'm not even sure it's neck. Neck. I'm, I'm a confused person right now. It's definitely absorbing man. It's probably the best honor reveal card right now.
Simply because like, it's just so cracked in the different, different style kind of replication decks.
Yeah. Every card you're able to copy with this guy now, it feels good. They, this is one of those you can take into a four four, and I don't know if that's how they're gonna address the brood stuff. And he's still like, he's great. He still does his job well. He was what, four, three forever. Four, five just feels like a perfect, he just feels cracked at the moment, forging him together and saying brooded in him and saying sinister.
But yes, as far as like a game winner of cubes, Legion is filthy. Filthy.
Yeah. And it's, it's, the thing that really stands out for me for Legion is not only is it a massive effect in conquest and, and regular ranked ladder, but like competitive lists are using Legion. You know what I mean? Like it is an absolute God tier card. And it's crazy. 'cause this might, this might have been the biggest whiff on all of the spotlight cashes people were so low on Legion, and now here we are Yeah.
In a, a meta that we're like, Legion is being splashed into so many decks and it's near impossible to subo. Like, yeah, leach is being used in some of the she knot based stacks, but like, it feels like it's such a unique
card. I feel like he's both impossible to sub out. And also very easy in the sense of like, if you don't have Leach in, yeah, you can play the list just fine. Like you could play the list and just have one other wind condition in there. But man, does he do his job better than anyone? Right? Like it, you what? If you only have one five costs, you can't sub him out 'cause he's doing that job in that area. You know what I mean?
But yes also you don't have to have him, you just need that deck to perform more consistent. But dude, he he's insane.
You're right. He's probably the least necessary best card in Marvel Snap. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's a good way to put it. But I thought, dude, between all six subjects, what a ti. We had to give this so much time. This, this podcast because of the week that we've had in Snap. It's only going up. I'm excited to see where it goes from here, buddy. And what an episode, huh?
Yeah, it was a ton of fun to talk about all these things. I mean, these are just, this is so fun to talk on the Snapchat with you to talk about our favorite cards in the game, the sleepers, all that. I still cannot believe what we did ranking. Discard from the top. 10, and thank you so much for all your support guys on Twitch tv. This past week was insane. The likes, the subscriptions, everything means the world to both cozy and I. So thank you so much for supporting our Dream and the Snapchat.
Another great week here on the Snapchat guys. As always, we'll see you on episode 44 next week. Absolutely crazy. Until then, guys, happy snapping.