What's going on guys, and happy almost Halloween. Werewolf by Night potentially is the best card to come out in October. Drops Tuesday, we're gonna break down the best cards, combos, and is he worth going after. We're also gonna be talking about the Nerfpocalypse, the giant OTA that changed everything about Marvel Snap. Which decks are on the rise, and which cards are on the rise. As our last subject, we'll be talking about individual cards, you should be playing right now.
We're gonna talk about that all today and more on this very special episode of the Snapchat. 52 episodes, 52 weeks, one full year of the Snapchat. And for one year running straight, I am joined by Mr. Alex Kocha, man, we made it! We did it! 52 weeks in a row, and this is our year iversary, the beginning of Season 2. Of the Snapchat, man. Can you believe it?
I can't believe it, honestly. And what I really can't believe is how much every single week I look forward to this. This is the piece of content that I look forward to the most. Not just because I get to talk to one of my absolute best friends about a game that I absolutely love, but because of like the amount of community support we get, I don't know about you, Cozy, but I cannot express how thankful I am to everybody for a year of support. It's just been remarkable.
I can't think of any other word.
I mean, it's crazy to look back and think when we started it, I remember it was, like, very different content. Like, you know, it was just deck guides on deck guides, and it was so cool to do something different. And when we first started, the views weren't there, you know, it was really kind of risky per se, right? But, like, we didn't care because it was just fun to film together. Like, that's kind of what was the base of this. And we kept saying we're gonna just keep doing it.
And if people choose to watch, awesome. And it's just a great way to talk about more than just like a deck or whatever. We can just talk like each other, you know, zoo animals, snap and everything in between. So 52 strong and we start season two. Used to another year, man. And just happy anniversary of the Snapchat. Absolutely love it. But on top of that, do we also have. Halloween coming up this Tuesday.
Oh buddy, it's been wild for Halloween. Okay, so my wife, right? I absolutely love her. She was so excited for Halloween this year. She's like, you know what? We're doing a Marvel theme as a family. We're doing a Marvel theme. Alex, you've worked so hard. I want everyone to know that you're a Marvel guy now. And that you've done so well on YouTube and on Twitch and everything. So she's like, we're doing a whole Marvel theme. So, my daughter, Miss Jane Foster. Right? My daughter's Jane Foster.
My three sons. We have, we have Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk, and we have Captain America. Which is awesome, you know, a little Canadian kid running around with a Captain America shield. It's kind of funny. And then me, my wife is so excited. She's like, Alex, she's like, you're, and you're the king of all, Alex. She gave me this.
My favorite avengers.
I mean, her heart's in the right space.
My favorite avengers.
So, she gives me a Superman costume, and I'm like, Thank you. This, this means a lot to me. I really appreciate this. Everyone's gonna absolutely love me dressed as Superman, the most powerful of Marvel heroes. And yeah, I'm gonna wear this for this podcast.
Yo, first of all, I spent 30 minutes trying to explain to my mom the difference between DC and Marvel. Cuz, same thing, we got Superhero Halloween over here too. This is what we're going as. We have Star Lord. Okay, wait for it, my son Spider Man, right on point. Outside of that, Batman, Robin, Wonder Woman. I was like, what's going on here, guys? What's going on? So you could fit right in with them, man. You're gonna stand out like Superman's my favorite Avenger.
So shout out to Mrs Miss Coccia well, Alex, we've got a lot to talk about this week. Let's go ahead and break down what we're talking about on your side of the Snapchat.
We'll be talking about cards on the fall. We have a number of cards with the OTAs and everything that's been going on in Marvel Snap. They are just dropping like a rock in the meta we're going to be discussing those cards. We're also going to talk about... Nico, who has been a pleasant surprise in Marvel Snap for a wide variety of reasons. We're going to jump into that. And then finally the biggest surprise cards for October, 2023. This is a great conversation I love having.
Cause I mean, listen, there are a lot of surprise cards out there. And some that some people might not even realize are surprise cards until they get hit with them and give up some eight cubes.
Dude, I'm just pumped to talk about Nico, man. Like, oh, we thought it could be, you know, is it going to be a Legion? Is it going to be a dud? A lot of fun to talk about her. Excited to break her down and we'll touch on her a bit here, but that full conversation. But we got to get to the new card this week. I, dude, dare I say, October has felt great. The new cards in October kind of all have felt really good.
Black Knight probably being the outlier, but the rest of them have like a firm kind of place in the decks that they want to be in. And buddy, I think we might have the best one coming out on Halloween night, which is crazy to say, because we had some good ones this month, and that is... Werewolf by night. Let's just hop right into it, man. He's a three, freakin three. After you play an on reveal card at another location, Werewolf is gonna move there and gain plus two power.
Now, Alex, when we did, like, the preview of this season, we were both kind of hyped up about this card. I know this was an initial kind of like, alright, this seems like it's gonna be dangerously strong. And we got a lot to break down, card combos, a lot of the interactions on how it works.
There's, this is gonna be a good episode to break down a card that I think a lot of people should seriously consider getting, as I think it's gonna be a strong front hold for the rest of the year in Marvel Snap, potentially. But initial impressions, what are your, what are your thoughts on the wolf?
I think both of us agreed on roughly a four star rating for this card. I think that's the highest we've been in like months and months. Since X23 I think we were you know, not really that high. I mean, Werewolf by Night I think has the makings of an excellent card. A fair card, I don't think it's gonna completely go insane, right? It's not gonna be overpowered. And what I really like about it though is it's gonna activate a whole bunch of synergies that some people might not be expecting.
And I think that it's gonna rejuvenate. Some archetypes that really need some help, some cards that really need some help, and we've been seeing this in Marvel Snap. We've been seeing cards come out and just bringing back other cards, right? Like Ghost Riders back, right? And there's a reason for that. Now, I think that Werewolf by Night is going to do the same thing for some archetypes as well. Honestly, I think this card's gonna be fantastic, and it seems to have very natural inclusions.
Into a lot of meta decks, whereas like, Black Knight for instance, felt like you had to design something wholly new, and the archetype just didn't really perform. It had its moments, but it wasn't consistent. I feel like Werewolf by Night is gonna be consistent.
Yeah, let's just cut right to the chase. First, the spotlight. It's got Ghost Spider, it has Silk. If you don't have them, this is just a banger spotlight, especially looking ahead. I believe it's this one, and then two weeks out has Loki, so those are the two that you want to target most likely. I'm gonna give him a 4. 5. Quite honestly, I do think he's not gonna be like busted. I could see a nerf coming his way eventually. Potentially, if he gets out of hand.
But there's like pros, there's cons, there's some huge things that I don't think have been talked about that I really want to highlight with this card. And let's go ahead and break down the way that he interacts. Now, first of all let's just go ahead and say this, man. It's hard to see him not be a 3-7, 3-9, 3-11 consistently, across just about every archetype this guy can fit into.
I mean, that's what the powerful nature of him comes by, because the on reveal, yeah, sure, that's its own archetype, buddy, but man, like, every archetype has powerful on reveal cards, and so, right off the bat, you've got something that can scale to the highest of 3 cost value, and that's gotta get you excited about it.
It does, but the thing I'll say is like, when I've been planning my Werewolf by Night decks I'm not hoping to get him to, you know, 3-30 or whatever it's going to be, right? I'm like, if I get into 3 7 and I can control where it is at the end of the game, that's a good play. That's a good 3 7, especially since that's a 3 7, I would have played on turn three or four early on, right? I think there is a ton of value in the way this card mechanically functions. Naturally, it's hard to Shadow King.
It's going to be hard to Shang Chi because it's moving. It's moving. It moves after the on reveals though. It's not like a move card, right? That's not like a vision, right? So that's, that is worth noting. So initiative will matter for Werewolf by Night, but ultimately, like, I really think that even at a 3 7, which is a Maximus stat line, being able to control where he ends up at the end of the game with a movement play. Is extremely valuable, even at just 3 7.
Yeah, so you highlighted something important. Let's talk about the way it works. So just like Nico Minoru, whenever you play a card after her the On Reveal triggers, and then Nico triggers. So he's gonna be the exact same way. He's going to allow an On Reveal to happen, and then he gets his bonus power. Now, we're gonna talk about why that's important, and that does highlight certain cards more than others. But yeah, you hit it there, man. Obviously, just good stats across the board.
He can get into you know, really help out lanes. What I love about him is that he can get into hard to reach locations. You know, kind of reminds me of like Ghost Spider going into Death's Domain. You don't have to drag a card in there anymore. If this is the last play or your last on reveal play, he can get over there easily and not just with a little stats, but a lot, right? So that's just a great way to utilize the way he works. You said that the counter option thing, that's fantastic.
Shang Chi, man, I gotta say. A card like this that can dodge these counter cards is fantastic. I mean, he's going to almost encourage people to play their Shang Chi's early. To catch people off guard, and he's giving you another reason why you might want priority early. So definitely love him for that reason as well. What I don't like about him, quickly, I mean, there's, it's tough not to really like everything. We are somewhat still in a flood heavy meta, right?
So board space is so important, you're gonna have to have the board space. He has to move. To get his power. This is important. Like if a you know, another card moves him, I think like Magneto, he does not get the plus power. So that's important to know that you have to move him with these on reveal effects. Something very when you're building your decks, keep that in mind. Although, you know, there's not gonna be too many things that move this guy outside of Aeromagneto and whatnot.
The other thing that I think is tough that people are kind of ignoring is that you have to, he kind of forms your lane decisions sometimes. Like, you don't always are going to want to play an on reveal on turn 6. It could mess up where you want to play certain cards to get him to go there, right? So he kind of controls, you might have to skip an on reveal play, maybe play it into a full lane, right? Like, there can be some awkward interactions, but you get the trade off of a great stat line.
I think that's kind of where his pros and his cons rest. Outside of that, he's a 4. 5. I think we could say that.
It's easy to forget that Marvel Snap only has four spots per location. And we want to play so many cars, we want to do so many combos, we want this guy sliding this way, sliding this way, Cha Cha sliding all over the place. And then you're like, wait a minute we're out of space. We're out of space and we still need to put power up eventually. And it's one of the challenges of even Ghost Spider, right? Cause Ghost Spider occupies two spots in a location. Herself and the card she pulls.
So it's like, you need these macro considerations. And even someone like a you know Captain Marvel has those types of considerations, right? With how you play Captain Marvel, how you fill locations, where you plan to have her attack. So like move has been very fixated on board space. So that is perfect identification on your part that like, Hey, this is going to be a challenge. Right. And like, I was thinking about Thanos, for instance, right. I was playing with like a Thanos shell.
Cause I think that the stones of course are going to make them pop around all over the place. But I'm like, Hmm, is this going to be a Thanos destroy shell? Because realistically we need space. We're going to play some stones. We're going to, you know, get out you know professor X or whatever that we're going to kill monger these stones. Are we like, what are we doing here? So like the ability to kind of say, okay, we need to generate some space for this guy to move around and generate value.
I think is an interesting call.
Yeah, which is great because now we can talk about the enormous amount of combo plays this guy has. There's so many cards and decks where he is going to want to be in, and Alex, when it comes to testing, like day one, I think it's going to be hard not to just try everything because he's going to work in the majority of things. I think immediately it's kind of obvious there's one deck in particular, which I like that he fits into this because he brings yet another different playstyle to it.
We all know it. This is not going to be a big surprise. Silver Surfer is gonna be a big deck for the guys at 3 cost. Silver Surfer relies on on reveal cards already to kind of help it out. I don't see this not just being a natural fit for the guy, giving it another tool to move around. However, he could be an argument, and it's kind of crazy to think about, but potentially not playing Brood, right?
Like, cause you don't want to fill out your lanes too much, so it's an interesting way to play him. You like him in Surfer?
I was just gonna say, the major challenge with my kind of pen and paper Surfer decks is like, do I cut... Brood? Like I don't want to, because obviously Brood is remarkably good, but at the same time, like, yeah, you got to move him around. But then again, once again, I said it before, if he's a 3 5, right, and he slides over to the Silver Surfer location as he's a 3 2, 3 5 comes sliding on over, is that really that bad?
Like you're really, you're pumping up that Silver Surfer location, which you might need to win, right? So having the agency over how you play him and where he slides is cool, but you're right, like Brood is challenging because of a space perspective, but it's still like, it's a staple you know. Silver Surfer card, but if it's got to get cut, then all of a sudden we're, we're looking at archetypes in new ways.
If we have an archetype that is defined by Brood not being in a Silver Surfer deck, and that looks completely different, I'm all for that. I don't like when there are specific cards that have to go in specific archetypes, right? Like, I think that Marvel Snap benefits from a wide variety of cards in a wide variety of archetypes. So if this card can cut Brood from Silver Surfer, I'm all for it.
So what is another deck that you like them in? Because it's so funny, it's like, it's not even only just decks, but cards, like, there's an interaction I can't wait to talk about. Do you have another deck outside of Surfer that you're like, alright, I think Werewolf could fit?
Yeah, the one that I want to talk about is the Silky Smooth style decks, and I think that obviously this is going to be a natural inclusion, and the reason for this is because it's, first of all, it's with Silk in the spotlight cache. And the thing about Silky Smooth that's interesting is you've got Craven. And you have Spider Man.
So what's interesting about that is when you play Spider Man, he slides on over, Spider Man generates space, Kraven's just like, thank you so much for all this, all this stuff, right? Then you play it on, like there's a lot of on reveals so then you play an on reveal on the other side, things slide over, like I think that the Silky Smooth is gonna really benefit Kraven and Werewolf by night, because of just, the simple interaction with Spider Man is a good example.
And I like that you highlight this because this is, and we'll talk about this in the post OTA, but like a deck that got hurt, massively, it's the biggest deck that got the biggest nerf to it as a whole and Angela exiting play now gives the chance for Werewolf to easily slot into the deck, right? Love the Spider Man interaction, right, because you're, you're moving a card, gaining a card.
And then, this is, listen, it's not that I don't like to play him, but usually, I've been cutting him more often. I don't care about the good stat line. I'm like, alright, there's, there's another combo piece that I want to play. But now, it seems like, where the heck is he? Miles Morales just seems like, why would you not have him in that deck now? It's like, you're gonna always have him triggered. There's already cards like Silk that can get triggered.
But this is even easier, because you can self trigger this without a con to yourself, right? So... Yes. It's I love when people say new great move deck and it's like the, the, the silky smooth style of move deck and not a traditional, and I'm like, that's the move He works with more. But I think you could argue this is not a deck. I wanted to like super highlight, but I do think you could argue he's gonna be okay in in, in actual move.
Dude. Talk about the biggest problem with this deck is Heimdall being all alone by himself when he does the Chacha slide, as Alex would say. And now you have a card, right lane, he can hop over, join the party, and then your dagger vulture lane wins the other one.
I love it. Actually, in my notes, I have Heimdall in caps because if you think about how the interaction works, if you have you know, werewolf mid, and then you play Heimdall right, he slides, werewolf's gonna slide. Get the buff and then it's come back towards Heimdall, right? Because Heimdall is going to reveal first, buff the werewolf, and then he's going to come back to the unrevealed location, which is Heimdall.
And suddenly, like, Heimdall's just not a 6'8 Suddenly it's huge, and you're right, like, Dagger is coming, is sliding with Kraven. And you have two really strong lanes. And Heimdall has dodged buffs, has been dodging buffs since the start of Marvel Snap. And maybe this is the card that really buffs Heimdall just because of its synergy. This to me feels like an absolutely incredible choice, especially for players who might not be Pool 3 complete.
Because like, there are early times in Marvel Snap where like, move in Pool 2, early Pool 3 is some of the best you know, gameplay, highest win rate gameplay you can actually do. This is an amazing inclusion in those decks.
It'll take a little bit of time, but the theorycrafting coming to work here is gonna be what it needs, right? I mean, just single handedly, all these move cards, a lot of them, have on reveal activators. You could even put them... With a Phoenix Force deck, that works right, because Phoenix Force Honor, you have Honor Reveals in the Phoenix Force deck, as well. And then just like, the inclusion and move has slowly gotten better each patch.
And it's not talked about, and this feels like a nice way to really seal it off. I think this is going to be a sneaky inclusion, and so yes, move is going to be, the traditional move, is going to be fun to be remiss to not bring up, The ability of Beast Balance, you know, it's so cool. To watch the timeline of bounce decks, right? Like, what it's become, what it was, and now it's just like, kind of flopped. And now again, with Angela flopped again.
It's so different now, the way that it's played. You know, talk about Nico, who already added such a giant punch to this deck. I have Nico as a huge werewolf card, naturally. She's on reveal. Everything she does is on reveal. So it's nice just to have that in the, in the in the package. Because Nico works best with another on reveal. Because then she, you know, triggers her spell, right? So if it's like an Ice Man, it becomes a demon. Great stuff. Werewolf is going to love that.
And then you put that into Beast bounce. You can clear up that board space. Central Parklands, no big deal, right? He alone is also a balanced card. You can have free place to just rack up that power over and over and that is where I think we're gonna see Werewolf get to those stupid crazy numbers, you know what I mean? I think that is gonna be, Werewolf could be one of the most challenging cards. To master on the high end with a bounce deck, the way that plays are going to work out.
I'm telling you right now, this could be a tournament deck, and this is what the high players are going to do because it's so complex and where things, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I don't think high players would be able to pilot this card particularly well, I think it. Takes a lot of thinking, a lot of consideration. What I will say though, is that the card really just like, whether or not you're bouncing it back and forth and trying to send it to the moon in terms of power, I mean, it's just gonna do its thing and it's a reliable effect. You can put it like the thing about Nico, right?
We're going to talk about Nico soon, but like Nico was like, unreliable, incredibly fun, but still powerful. And I think that werewolf by night has a slightly lower ceiling at times, but.
You can consistently expect it's performance, and you can reliably, like, understand, Okay, well, I can do the math here, and I think that Bounce is gonna be cool, Because you're right, you do clear a lot of space, you give him the opportunity to move around a lot, Especially when you kick him back, and then you use on Reveals to get him moving around more and more and more, especially when you consider the reduced cost of Beast, so.
I like the call out Cozy, I think that Werewolf by Night is gonna be a solid Bounce card because exactly what you said, opening up space is huge in Marvel Snap, especially when you have a card moving as often as Werewolf does.
And so with that, right, it's like, another card that I think just works, works with the Werewolf, dude, is Iron Lad, too, man. It's like, imagine Iron Lad getting that ability as well, then you got... And you have two of these guys. You have two of these guys going up. Ironlad's one of those cards we talked about way back when. It's like he's always getting a little bit better when these cards come out. And this is one where it's like, you know, having two Jeffs on the board is great.
There's cards that are naturally obviously good when you get two of them. This is one of those that's like, whoa, things can get out of hand pretty fast. Yes, you have to have the space to make it happen. But regardless, you have just great stat lines to begin with. So, scary stuff. Excited to see it. What I want to highlight, and I haven't seen this talk about... Is my favorite part about Werewolf, dude. Not even decks not even any of that. I love the idea.
If we go over here and we sort by on reveal. What is it most cards in the tech area, you know, have in common? They have an on reveal. And what gets me excited is now we have ways to beef up a lane, kind of like Heimdall, right? But with these other cards, right? So, imagine Alioth. I know, I know it's bad, I hate to say it, but Alioth only has three power. You now use Alioth. He gets Werewolf to join him to his side and beat that lane. Now, that's scary, man.
That's a crazy thing to think about. Shang Chi. Sometimes, they got a crossbones in there. They got a couple things that Shang Chi's not a big enough play. All of a sudden, now it's easy to get caught. Like, Sarah Control almost likes this, right? Like, with a, with an enchantress kind of feel. You get to finish it off. But I'm not done, Alex. This is where the cook came into mind. The Alioth was probably the scariest thing that I thought of. I'm like, oh boy, this is gonna be a problem.
But what about, what about Arnim Zola? Arnim Zola now finally has a car that can come back to his aid, because it happens after the on reveal. So, you know, perfect world, you split two werewolves, they go back into the Arnim lane, but even better, you have just the one come back and help out. You know what I mean? And that's a huge bonus, I would say.
Yeah, because traditionally, Arnim Zola, you just lose that location, right? Like, you lose location, you put zero power there. But if you're able to slide like a you know, a seven power you know, werewolf, then maybe that's beneficial. Maybe that's enough, right? Like, who knows? Who knows what game situation you're in? But I definitely like that call out a lot.
Magneto, big con. You gotta play him. You gotta move a lot of big cards over there. Well, now Magneto gets a little bit of help too, right? So, like, isn't that interesting? Like, there's some cards now with cons with on reveal. That werewolf is going to help out, you know, getting to these hard locations. That's where I think he's going to shine.
He's a 4. 5. To end it here, he's a 4. 5. I do think he's one of those that I can, before testing say, he's going to be worth going after most likely, especially looking forward to the next couple weeks to come. I think he's going to be a strong card buddy. I'm excited to play him. But with that dude, let's go ahead and go to the next subject, Alex, and that is going to be the Nerfpocalypse.
Probably the biggest OTA as far as balance adjustment goes in a long time, because cards that weren't even nerfed got nerfed, you know, via these other cards that they rely on. Crazy stuff, man. We saw Angela, one of the most dependable 2 drops in the game get, you know, touched up. We have Elsa, the first ever in season pass card, get a nerf, which I think is definitely warranted alongside some other big time hitters.
So I wanted to go one at a time, talk about him for a second, and then we're gonna talk about some decks that are doing well in this post nerf apocalypse, right? So if Elsa was a 5 star she got brought down. Her giftable power's only plus 2, not plus 3. I still think she's like a 4. 5 star. I still think she's a great card. Would you agree?
Yeah, she's still great. Like, I still don't see an issue with the card. It provides a tremendous amount of value. It fits into so many different archetypes. Like, it's still a card you play. It's fine. The win rate has not gone down that much. Like, it's lost a percent, maybe. Like, it's still just good.
What about Angela? Going from what I would also say it was a 5 star, 2 cost card. What would you give her now?
Angela's interesting because like what you, what you've essentially done is you've increased the floor, right you've lowered the ceiling, but you've also lowered the ceiling on something like Kitty Pryde, right? So if you think about what happened to Angela, it's really an attack on the the Bloodstone Angela Kitty Pryde combination, which was just getting Kitty Pryde to like 16 power on occasion, like completely wild. I think she's definitely weaker.
Like, she's definitely weaker in my experience. Like, and the result is maybe you get a two drop that's actually in line with what a two drop is supposed to be. Like still getting a two drop to seven power. Like, do you really complain about that? You know what I mean? Like.
What would, what would be the star rating you would give her now? The new star rating? If she was a five. That's hard.
That's hard. You probably drop her down to a three.
I said, that's what I have on the notes. Three, maybe 3. 5, cause it's still a good two drop kind of, but like. The, the reasons why you would play her went down. Even the Bast interaction, I think, is like massive, right? Like, you get a 2 0 going to a 2 3, like, that was a staple! And now that's taken away, and you had a couple of cards have this happen to them. Kitty Pryde now, so interesting where she's ended up, and I think that there's definitely, you know what they wanted.
A world with less Angela. We had Sauron, I think he's a 5 star. He's still a 5 star, it is what it is. Yeah, yeah, he does what he needs to do. Interestingly, they said they have something coming for him. I don't even know what that would mean, but that's very interesting, yeah?
Yeah, that was kind of interesting. I was like, hmm, like we have some cards, but I can't think of like, there's no like Typhoid Mary style effect coming, right? Like that I've seen yet. So clearly they're forward looking, and maybe this card's going to be really good for that archetype, which is exactly what Shuri needs. Another card to absolutely send it over to the moon. But I mean the deck is still phenomenal. Like losing one power on Shuri and Sauron, it's like, wow. Anyways.
Yeah, right.
Who cares, right?
I know, right.
No one cares at all about that.
Does what it does well. And then, you know, finally for the nerf side of things, we had Loki. Loki, Loki going up to a four cost. Obviously it was another five star card. What would you give it now, even though I'm sure you haven't playtested him a bunch since the nerf, but what would you give him now?
So I actually had played a bunch of Loki lately, just not a ton because he just got nerfed, right? But he still seems fine. Like, I often found myself just, like, waiting and not playing him on 3 anyways, and often playing him on 4 or 5. So, it seems okay. The thing that sucks is that, like, if you're holding Kitty Pryde, it's harder now. To like sneak a Kitty Pryde bounce with the Loki. So you often are Loki ing on turn five if you want to keep that Kitty Kitty Pryde.
But like, I almost like, do I cut Kitty Pryde here? Like why do I run Kitty Pryde? Angela's not in the deck anymore, right? Actually the highest win rate Loki deck currently is 56%. Angela's not in it, but Kitty Pryde still is. It makes me wonder if Kitty probably just gets cut from that deck and then it kind of increases the win rate.
I for one was pumped for the change, mainly because I love Loki. Like, I love the deck design and I want to feel good playing it. You know what I mean? Like, I was like kind of hoping for a good nerf so that I could play him and not feel like a, you know, that I'm playing a deck that everybody hates. Whatever, you know, we do as creators. So definitely, I think he's still good. Four star, 4. 5 star. He's going to be a good deck. Just they're aiming to do things differently.
And then the snip snap snip snap collector two, two to two. Zero to two two. Once again, interesting stuff. How cow just got a, what I would assume a pretty ni above. We've been waiting for, for a while, you know, like how cow kind of just felt weird with swordmaster in the same vein I played a good amount of discard and it's hard man. Discards right up there were destroyed one of the hardest lists to make better. I do think hell cow brings an alternative.
To Dependable Discard, it's not a game, change, shocker, craziness, but it's nice to have something to play other than MODOK. And it gives Dracula another option that isn't terrible in the stat line. I thought it was a pretty good buff. I was like, do I play Zabu and Discard now?
Like, I had this thought about like, you know, it's not crazy, honestly, but you have to draw very specifically, but those decks naturally run Chavez anyways. And that's like the one deck that has to run Chavez by design, by the way. That's not like, I'm getting lazy. I'm going to put Chavez in this deck. No, no. Discard needs Chavez for actual reasons. So don't get mad. I know Chavez is on the chopping block right now. I'm so sad. If Chavez gets nerfed... This is turning into therapy already.
Alright, let's get back on track here. The thing about Hellcow though, it's 4 8. Modoc is 5 8. Is this a shadow nerf to Modoc? Like, if you think about it, like, 4 8 is an actual good stat line.
Dude, this is what I've been testing. I just think it's another option. And like, discard is the biggest boomer bust deck in the sense of like, if you get your lines, it's over. You're gonna win most decks because of the lack of counters. But if you don't, it's rough. It's rough sledding, right? Hellcow can also be awkward, though, because, the draws you can get, and you have Modok in hand, and you're like, do I play this on four? I don't, I don't know what to do here.
And the way it works with Apocalypse is still wonky to this day. So, those are the weird things about Hellcow, in my opinion. But yeah, it could be, it could be an interesting change you know, to MODOK's reliability. Which I think the deck needed a bit of a shake up. We have another card to talk about, but I did want to just say, when we talk about decks that are kind of flourishing right now, I've got Discard right there.
And Discard is the deck that will always be great to play after something that shakes up like this, right? It's so dependable, Alex. You know exactly what you're getting. It doesn't change. Discard is a deck that if you don't know what to play, I think it's definitely one of the ones you go back to during a Nerfpocalypse craziness.
Oh, there's no question, right? It is, it is one of the most reliable, like 55 percent win rate decks in Marvel Snap, right? It rarely goes lower. It's sometimes even higher. The only disadvantage is it's because of the ticking apocalypse that your opponent gets to just observe. It can be hard to steal eight cubes. Cause they can do, it's just straight math, right? They're like, we're going to play Chavez. They have swarms. I just, we need to retreat now.
So I think that, like, when I play Discard, like, when I've used Discard to get to infinite a number of times, it's a very aggressive snap pattern. Like, I have Dracula, I have MODOK, I gamble on me drawing the Apocalypse maybe, but still, I like my chances and I go. I snap, right? And I think that's where the challenge is. Play out your cards, play out your snap before they can see, oh, whoa, that Apocalypse is going to be a 20.
Spectrum, last card we got to break down as far as the nerfs and buffs, dude. I loved it. In fact, it was more generous than I thought. I know some people maybe wanted a boost to the the power that, you know, she burst out. Spectrum is one of those cards that we're not far away from being a very dependable deck. I think Spectrum, what it continues to need... Is more cards that go into other deck builds that it doesn't scream, I'm about to get Spectrum'd, right?
Like, that's, that's the best thing that's going for it. Is the high cube rate, the big surprise reveal. Spectrum used to need another card next to it that, you know, kind of helped it out. Now, she really doesn't. The seven power's enough, you spread out enough, you have powerful tech cards with ongoing effects. Now you don't need to run a Colossus, right? She's great. I love her. I think she's definitely consistent right now and has a pretty good win percentage to show it.
The wild thing was that I've been playing Spectrum for the last couple of weeks, not knowing that it was going to get buffed. Like, I was just like, I want to play some Spectrum. Like, I think this deck is kind of cool. I've been running a deck that I call Toxic Spectrum, which actually runs Ghost and Hazmat. Ghost because it's a cheap card that can hit by a Spectrum, but also the Ghost ensures that you give the initiative and you make the most of your Hazmat play.
But the key thing is you play Sera on turn 5. And what that allows you to do is it allows you to Spectrum and Hazmat on turn 6. And so it basically gives you this delta, especially if you have Wong. It's four power burst on your side and two negative on their side. It is like a six power delta and I have won some insane highlights with it. You know, infinity tickets have been gotten and it's, it's a wild list. And like, I like that spectrum is now like.
You're able to do some interesting things with the card because a 6 7 does stand on its own. 6 5 just didn't cut it. And as we get more ongoing effects, like some of them are extremely powerful, even Goose, like giving Goose an additional two power when they can't play a 4 there, like that might just be enough to just out trade whatever they're playing.
She brings together ongoing cards that were naturally good independently. That's what's so great about it, right? This was the first deck I tested after the OTA. I did it live on stream, and I was blown away. I just kept winning, and I kept winning, and I kept, and I was like, wow, like, this is really working. You know, I'm playing it a bit off stream as well, just like a solid card to have.
And a cool deck to have and I think the more, this is probably the worst she'll be in a sense because it's Spectrum week, right? Like anytime there's like a sexy change, that's when it's tough to, you know, pull something cheeky off. But yeah man, Spectrum, good deck to play right now. That being said, we had a lot of decks kind of go down. Right? Because of all the changes.
So Alex, in your opinion, right now, what are some of the hottest decks to be playing in this kind of different meta that we have on the rise?
I mean, right now, I think Thanos, ongoing, is solid. And Spectrum was a natural inclusion in those decks. You know, the, the Thanos with like the lockdown, the claw, stuff like that. Like, it used to run Spectrum. Now it's just running Spectrum again, and it's better than it's ever been. And suddenly it's like, oh, the Soul Stone, that change sucked, and it still kind of does. But, oh look, it gets plus two now, right?
So, it's kind of neat to see how like, you know, you buff a card that traditionally used to be in a specific deck, and it actually elevates that archetype just a little bit. Like, the Spectrum buff kind of buffed the Thanos control a little bit.
I know you were, you're hating on Thanos for a little bit because of the Soul Stone change, and now thank God. That was changed because it would be way over the top. I think the biggest bummer about Spectrum is that she made the already probably like, or it was up there as one of the better decks going into the meta. Even better, right? The ongoing Thanos list right now. Cheating out Pro X, getting an Alioth out there. You know, that's what it's about. It's a tough tech to beat, right?
Tough deck to beat. However, with that, is Darkhawk being on the rise. Anytime you have Thanos, you get the equalizer in Darkhawk. Perfect card to go up against it. We're going to talk about more cards on the rise because of that. But a Darkhawk based list is just doing hot. It's doing great. Toxic decks are doing really good right now, right? These decks that are preventing that space. The things that they want to do to make these Elsas work or the Stones work.
I think that's also another big shout out. Shuri's still a staple. Anything else on your end as far as decks?
I got one more. Yeah, I've been playing this ongoing Spectrum deck with Orca in it. And it sounds crazy, but honestly, I was playing Jean Grey in it. Which, Jean Grey is great, because you play Jean Grey, you play Mojo, whatever it happens to be. And like, all those cards are ongoing, and they just get buffed by the Spectrum. And they're forced to have to play into this location. And often, early in the game, they might have a location with a couple cards in it. You just have nothing there?
Boom, Orca. No one expects Orca. And if Orca's not the play, you got Spectrum. It's a 6 7, it buffs up your entire board. I don't know, I've been really liking Spectrum and Orca, and I've even experimented with like a, like a, kind of like a ramp version of that deck, where you play Electro, right? So then you can actually get both out.
Yeah, yeah.
But it felt a little greedy.
Dude, I will talk about it more when we break down Nico on your side, but bar none, my favorite deck to play. Off stream, on stream, is Wicked Destroyed. Nico and what she brought to Destroyed was the perfect addition. I cannot get enough of that deck. I tested it for 10 hours straight, dude, and I tried everything. And that deck just seemed so crazy, insane busted. I couldn't believe it. Like, I love the way that deck plays out. I can't believe Destroyed got yet another boost.
Again, we'll break that down a bit more, but I had to shout it out. Beautiful stuff. So those are the decks to play right now. Those are kind of where hot as we get everything kind of equalizing yet again. Loki's still good. Works plenty fine. Your Elsa decks are gonna work. Listen, the Elsa, I said this in my OTA video, the Elsa change reminds me of the kitty change. She's not what we had, but she's still completely fine, right? Let's go into our last subject, Alex.
And that is going to be Cards on the Rise. This is such an important subject that I don't think we give enough time to at times. If you're late, they're like stocks, man. If you're late to playing these cards, like, you're not going to benefit as much as if you play them now. Get people by surprise. A single card on this list can win you games, and that is what it's all about. Cards, not cards that were good and still good. Cards that are rising or cards that were good to great, right?
That's what we want to focus on right now. And so, I have Darkhawk on the screen. I think Darkhawk's Eric has come back. Because of Thanos, naturally. I think we both just highlighted that. But Alex, there's another 4 cost that it's his time to shine. We just talked about Thanos. We just talked about OnGoing being fantastic. I can't believe it's happening again, but I'm telling you, there's only brief windows. And if you don't play him, you'll miss out.
But it's none other than Super Skrull is back as a great card. There's so many ongoing cards for him to take now.
Yeah, it is. It's a great card right now because there are so many ongoing effects and Super Skrull does have these windows that open up for him, right? Like where it's like, oh, everyone's playing Zabu Lodge. Everyone's playing Sarah and you play your Super Skrull. And it often acts as this deterrent, especially in conquest where like your opponent's like, huh, I can't do my Iron Man. Iron Man is a rising card. And because of Super Skrull. That Iron Man feels a lot riskier, doesn't it?
So I do like the call out on Super Scroll. It's, it's one of those cards that like, I don't think anybody expects that their opponent has in the deck. But when you drop that Super Scroll, oh man, does it feel good.
Yeah, so I have cards that are like hot, and then ones that are heating up, right? Give me a hot card, Alex. Give me a hot card that's just, it's fire right now.
Okay, so you talk about windows, having to hit the specific windows of opportunity. Is there, there's another 4 drop. It's right beside Super Scroll. It is Wongers. Wong has had this resurgence lately because like the obviously you got the buff to the White Tiger and Wong's just fun. It's just a fun card and perhaps it's crazy to say this, but Cosmo doesn't exist. No one's playing Cosmo. That card's completely fallen off the meta right now.
The only risk To Wong is one of the other cards I want to talk about in a second, but Wong itself has been remarkably good, remarkably good, even in spectrum based decks. It, but really it's the on reveal where it's been absolutely shining. What are your thoughts on Wong?
Yeah, I'm loving Wong. When I used to post decks with Wong, I would post it and I'd be like, all right guys, it's a greedy deck, right? It doesn't feel as greedy now. My Spectrum list had Wong, because why, yeah, why not? Ongoing card, you get the boost off, even if you don't play him. He is the number one Alioth bait ever. Oh my god, it's great, because your opponent thinks you're gonna play there, and then you don't always have to. So I do like the Wong shoutout.
You know, we already talked Spectrum, obviously, on the Rise. I think we don't have to go into Rogue a lot more, but I think Rogue has been that one that's continually getting its stocks, yeah.
I was gonna say Rogue is the counterplay, the card I just referenced is Rogue. Rogue running at 10 percent of the meta, can you believe that? 10 percent of the meta is Rogue. That's the highest it's ever been. The highest it's ever been. This has been a forgotten card, it got buffed from a 3 1 to a 3 2, and now you just can't help but play it.
You know, it's funny because it was always Enchantress, because you get the power with it, but now with Rogue with 2, and these ongoing cards getting better and better, where you know that opponent's deck is based off those ongoing cards, you just ruin. What they were trying to get accomplished, right? We don't see the Devil Dinosaurs as much. We see the Zabu, the Mobius. You shut that down. I, the other day, I was in Vormir and I had a Mobius and this guy played a rogue.
Took my Mobius and killed the rogue! He didn't even care if the rogue survived. He just, like, zapped it. And I was like, my gosh, it's crazy. Rogue is everywhere and I think people know it now, so definitely definitely good call out there. Other hot ones Alex, I think it's because of how Destroyer's doing right now. We're finally seeing Killmonger. He's not like Cosmo. Killmonger's finally getting back into that meta.
Right, and that's why you're kind of seeing a small sync, small, into High Evo. And those one drop powerhouses that they had, yeah.
This is a perfect call. Yeah, I think Killmonger has been re emerging, which makes the Nebulas and stuff drop in the meta. I think that has really negatively impacted even the high Evo win rates, because they've been relying on the sunspots and on the Nebulas, while often not playing armor themselves, and Killmonger, with the prevalence of Destroy, completely counteracts that.
And it actually works perfectly with one of my absolute top risers, which seems so obvious, but we have to say it, it's Deadpool. Deadpool is 11 percent of the 55 percent win rate. It is the highest. It's ever been and like I just, it's incredible. It's doing remarkable work and Deadpool has definitely been a riser over the last month.
I feel like Deadpool is one of the most balanced cards in the game and that might seem shocking to say considering how good it is right now, but it is the most glaring billboard sign on the highway. When you get it powered up, you're telling the opponent, like, I'm about to drop this bomb on you, and they stay, right? Like, that is what makes them so balanced, in my opinion. On top of just being able to shut them down early.
And this, those destroy decks, you know, they kind of rely pretty heavy, so when the armor comes out, it can be tough with the flow of getting them going. I agree, dude. I absolutely love Deadpool right now in the meta. Now, of course, we do have new cards out. I don't know if I want to put them as risers, but I think both Nico and Manthing. They're gonna be rising. They're gonna be good cards. Period. End of discussion. Manthing has tremendous value now. Again, I think he was overlooked.
I think he's a great card right now in the decks that are working. Now I want to talk about less like, more kind of like heating up and or if you have more hot, that's great too. These are cards that I think are getting better and they have reason to have more play now, right? And I want to kick the list off with Titania. Now after the whole kind of direct nerf to Elsa and some Flood decks, There are still flood decks everywhere, and what we mean by that is cars just all at the locations.
Titania feels like such a safe play now, because these cards are filling out fast in their locations. Having her as a late play, maybe clogging is good to stop. And Elsa, she has utility, and I wanted to give her a shoutout.
Titania, I mean, this is one of those cards you have to have massive coco nuts to be playing this on a regular basis. Like, it is one of the most trolly cards where you only got yourself to blame. Like, playing it's so challenging, but it's beautiful for that reason, right? It's really beautiful for that reason. I actually had this thought, like, I wondered if Titania would be better as a 1 6. Like, is 1 5 really enough for the risk of playing her? You know what I mean?
Like, can you not see her going up to 1 6?
No, I think it's good. I think she's good, man. Because you get her at the last turn of the game as a 1 5. You get to clog the opponent, which is bigger than you think. And people were starting to fill it out, so it kind of counters that. I mean, I wouldn't hate a 1. 6, because I play her. So, like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, you know, I'm sitting on 400 boosters. I'd play a good amount of Titania. And I think it could work. But, yeah, I mean, hey, I'll take a 1. 6 all day, bud.
Some other ones I have on here, we don't have to, like, show them all. I am going to give a small shoutout to Shang Chi. Exited the meta, but he was out. He was out the door. He was with Cosmo you know, chillin at the, at the bar. I don't know what the dog's doing at the bar, but you get it. He's back now. I think he's definitely made his way back into it.
I still can't believe that people don't expect you to have Shang Chi anymore. I run it on almost all my decks. I have it as an inclusion almost always. People just sit there with like venom. Like an obvious Zola place, and I'm just like, I'm just gonna punch this out, and they snap in, and I'm like, you're playing Zola, I know you are, and I'm gonna punch your Venom directly in the face, and I'm gonna steal your cubes, and sure enough, it's a clockwork every single time.
You said Venom and it reminded me, I had to, listen, I'm okay sacrificing the repre the representation of great splits here on the Snapchat. I have it ready. I have it ready to go. I have an Ultimate Venom that I use all the time, Alex. But I have a split that I wanted to do live right here again. Okay, so I need, with the Superman costume and all, alright, I need I need the channel our luck. I'm looking for another go I'm loo I'm looking for a good crackle. Eh, honestly.
I don't I That, that's what I need. I, you know, it's gotta be really good to out beat my other Venom variants that I love. Dan Hipto, big fan. Love this one. So here we go, man. Thank you for saying this, because I forgot that I had it up. In honor of Halloween here, play more Destroy. Venom on the Snapchat is a disappointment, Alex. Disappointment. I'm so sad. It is. Just broke the streak. It is. I know. It did. Guys, listen. You can't have high highs if you don't have low lows.
And the streak is broken, sadly. You know, it's okay, though. I don't hate the rainbow split. I'm gonna cope. I'm gonna have just copium here. It's fantastic. Audio listeners, it's a gold on gold crackle! It's terrible. Oh my god! Yeah, it's a terrible split, guys. Terrible split. Anyway, let's wrap it up, buddy. Last couple, we're in the three drops, so I thought it'd be a good time to go ahead and talk about some three drops that I also think are getting back into play.
Alex, none other than Mystique. I think Mystique was kind of outshadowed, right? Like, was not making Patriot lists. But I'm seeing her earn her spot more and more.
Absolutely. Mystique's making a slow but steady comeback. And I like to see that, honestly. And I've even seen Mystique based Elsa Bloodstone decks for C2, where you could use Elsa Bloodstone to buff up the Cerebro and the Mystique to 2, which is kind of clever. I like that. It's kind of like its own little bast, right? Ultimately, I think Mystique is a great card and one that we always recommend to people. But right now, like, Patriot's on the decline, so you don't see a lot of Mystique.
And it was getting knocked out a lot of Patriot lists, and I mean, yeah, it feels like it's rising a little bit, but it's not quite there. It's heating up, as one might say.
And I'll let you end it, but the last three custs I'll say is Magic. I think Magic is also just heating back up. Like, we're starting to get Magic decks again. And I, for one, love it. I love magic. I love the stakes of it. I love you know, obviously longer turns sometimes can be a bummer, but for the most part, I love any deck that has magic in it. I'm starting to see her a bit more come out again now that these snow guards are tamed down, you know what I mean?
Yeah, and I'll tell you right now that magic's a key component of the card I'll close us out with here. Okay. And it's been slowly simmering. Simmering in heat. And this is Hela. Hela has continuously kind of gone up. It's now at 7 percent of the meta. A 54 percent win rate. And it's good. You have the tribunal version. You have straight up discard. You have so many different variants of playing Hela. And I like it because listen, sometimes people just want to gamble. They just want to gamble.
They want to eight cube gamble and slowly but surely hella has been simmering to a 7% meta share, which honestly, if you think about it, Zola is 8%. And how often do you see Zola?
Exactly. I know, listen, it's great right now. Snap. I think we have a lot of cards that are working out, a lot of decks working out. All right, man, we talked about the risers this time, but let's talk about the cards that are falling, Alex.
There's been a lot of change up in the current meta of Marvel Snap, as there's been OTAs, changes to the way decks are being played, cards going in and out, a lot of modifications to a lot of the meta decks. And so we've got some cards that honestly used to be very prevalent in Marvel Snap, and now they have completely fallen off to the wayside. So why don't you hit us with a couple here to get us started.
Yeah, so funny enough too, I want to talk about just the obvious ones, but also I think it's important to touch up Really good cards that are getting less play. I think it's important because then that really affects the meta and what you can get away with now. More so than even like a couple of weeks ago, right? So first of all, looking at the OTA, I wanted to start out like Elsa and Angela. Like, Jeff is not gonna, is not gonna fall, right?
Like, these boostable cards are not gonna fall as much from the major changes we saw to Angela and Elsa. But I do see this, sadly, as a pretty big fall to Nightcrawler. Because you're losing that boostable power. Angela is not as great. This, to me, is the one card with Angela that's gonna take a bigger dip. Back out. You know what I mean? Like, he had a great month or two, but I think you'll be the one that sees the biggest fall.
Yeah, Nightcrawler's on its way down, which is a little sad, because it was one of my favorite one drops in one of our prior discussions. What makes me sad about this is losing Nightcrawler Angela hugely impacts the Pool 1 players. Like, this was a combination that could be utilized with confidence, especially early in Marvel Snap, where like, you're just trying to generate as much value as you can, even if you're going into Conquest.
That's a combination that was going to give you some power, and now it's completely gone.
Yeah, I guess it's like, they get the Spectrum, right? But then they lose the Angela. It's kind of the, which might be good to encourage, like, different deck play, I guess. But I am sad, because I liked Nightcrawler, but man, as a 1 5, he was really like a 1 7. I, you know, at times with the the Angela boost up and whatnot. But yeah, it's going to be tough days ahead for Angela. What are some cards that you've got on the fall? I've got some others, but definitely want to hear your list.
The one that really has struck me, which has completely fallen off the map. At a 1. 5 Metashare, it's Stature. Stature used to be a card that was one of the most reliable cards in Marvel Snap. A one that was part of a consistently fantastic deck, even through a lot of the nerfs. Stature was always a good card. Triple M, Mobius and Mobius still holds a 20 percent of the meta share, which has made Stature very challenging to play.
When you couple that with the nerf to Black Bolt as a 5 7, the whole thing, that whole shell just feels so risky and just so much worse than other things you can play right now.
So, okay. This is an interesting conversation because 20 percent insane. I do think, though, that Mobius meta share has gone down. And so, like, this is a very weird faller, because I don't think he's not in the meta at all, right? Does that make sense? First of all, I agree with Statue. I haven't seen a Statue deck in forever. That was a really good call. It actually took me by surprise. I'm like, oh yeah! Statue's in the game. Mobius, I think, has gone down a bit.
Like, I listen, I almost had, like, Serah because they fell out so hard. They're definitely playable now, you know what I mean? Like, there was a couple weeks where it's like, any energy cheating card is, you're done. But now I feel like Death, and Sarah, and Zabu, and these other cards, you can start to think about putting back into your deck. Because it's not as prominent, he's still everywhere, you know what I mean? But just a bit less.
Yeah, I might've misspoke if I suggested that Mobius was a faller, cause he's not. I mean, technically he is because he was at a 33 percent meta share at its peak. It's now down to about 19. 8. I think it was the exact stats, so about 20%. So he's, I mean, gone down significantly, but he's still a major part of Marvel Snaps meta. So if I kind of insinuated that he was on the decline, that's not quite what I meant, but he does negatively hit stature disproportionately, right?
And stature has completely fallen off. Now there is another card. I wanna discuss, and actually by stature, black Bolt also is another one. By unfortunately by association it gets knocked out too, right? But Legion, one of my absolute favorite cards in Marvel Snap. Currently a 1.4% of the meta 53% win rate. Simply going from a five eight to a five seven completely dropped it off the map. Its effect is still ever powerful, but the meta just doesn't want Legion right now.
Yeah, Legion. It's so weird, too, because I like Legion. I'm maybe gonna talk about him in a later subject on the episode here. It's weird because he's one of those cards that don't have a huge reason to not be there at times because location, you know Taking advantage of location is still gonna be, you know, ever present, ever good.
You know, talking about it, we actually didn't bring her up, I don't know how, but on the risers, Storm naturally went up you know, majorly because of these movable decks going down a bit. Storm was almost a wasted play because there were so many ways that she'd in there, right? So Legion is in that kind of, where are location cards at the moment? They took over the scene in June, July, August, and now we're kind of scaling back a bit on those.
And so yeah, there's definitely a good call out there. You know, it's hard not to talk, most of these kind of OTA decks obviously got some falling out, right, a bit. Sandman had his little time in the sun. I have him as a, as a brief faller. But man, it is kinda crazy. I don't run into I run into Loki still, but not as I go to 3 cost. But not as much.
Not as much as we use I mean, he definitely has taken a bit of a dip, and I expect people to This is gonna be the Shuri Soran deck that kinda falls out because of the nerfs, but still really powerful, you know what I mean?
It's the perfect comparison. Shuri Sauron was always good, even after the Shuri nerfs and changes, people just felt like it wasn't the new hotness anymore. Anybody that just continued to play Shuri through those nerfs would have gotten an infinite, easily competitive tournament deck, non stop, and people would not have even really batted an eye at it. Loki is very similar. It's still running a 56 percent run rate despite the nerf. It's just a powerful effect.
Like anytime you reduce the cost of cards in your hand. And remember, some of the power loss was offset by Collector getting this plus 2. Which also gives you a little bit of extra wiggle room against something like a Shadow King. Right? Because it's still just two power. I mean, it's not what you want.
You don't want your collector getting Shadow King, but still, I think that Loki's in a really good spot, and you touched on it prior, now we get to play Loki and not get, like, chirped for it, because it's just, it got nerfed, it's a little more fair, and it is a little more fair, but it's still damn good.
Yep, absolutely, man. Other followers that I had, I think the one cost cards naturally are going down a bit. Nebula seems to really have made her way into decks, like, she's just... She's making her way and making her case a bit more. I have seen a lot less sunspot. I have seen a lot less sunspot. I can say that you know, outside of maybe the high EVO builds. And then, dude, what are we, what are we not to bring up Galactus, obviously, right? Like, Galactus is all but ice cold at this point.
But I wanted to ask you, would you deem Alioth a faller? Do you think he's significant? I don't think so, he's still everywhere.
He's just as strong as he ever was. In fact, because his play rate has gone down ever so slightly, he starts to be like, more of a surprise element, which he shouldn't be. My turn sixes are always like, do I beat Alioth? How do I cope with Alioth here? Especially when I see a Professor X on the board, right? It's like those decks just breed Alioth. And the result is that you can never count Alioth out. So I still think as a 6 3 it has a remarkably powerful effect on Marvel Snap.
Yeah, it's so dangerous because I want to say this is, this is the card to buy. Period. This is the one to get in the token shop. But I'm hesitant to say that because I don't think his nerf days are behind. I think he has plenty of nerfs ahead of him. I've probably lost a hundred plus cubes into retreating when they'd even have Alioth, right? Because you have to put that into your head and your mindset as you start to get into like the thousands, top thousands of ranks.
You know Alioth is going to be all over the place. And so yeah, definitely still a card that, you know, maybe some people wanted to revisit to see if he was falling because of the two power change. He does the same thing he always did, right? Do you have any other fallers?
Yeah, one of the biggest fallers in Marvel Snap. It's actually kind of heartbreaking and no one's talking about this card at all. Stay in the sixes. It's She Hulk. She Hulk has completely been erased from the meta. It used to be a massive component of the meta. Now it's a 1. 9 percent meta share. Still running a 57 percent win rate, by the way. Isn't that wild? This was the largest delta between play rate and win rate with reliable data sets. Like, 57 percent winner.
Like, She Hulk is still the thing that like, it does good stuff. Right? But, a 20 percent Mobius and Mobius does take a lot out of She Hulk and it makes it far riskier to player. So she has unfortunately fallen out of favour here, but this is still a fantastic card.
I mean, like, when it comes to death, right? Because you could play death and Destroyer already functions so well, so it's okay for the risk. But She Hulk... A lot of these decks are designed to do the slam, and it feels like, Oh, I gotta get her out early now. Or, man, talk about just like, 6 9 on turn 6 for 6 costs is a bummer, right? So, it definitely, definitely She Hulk has fallen out.
And they talk about it, they say cards that have already had their time, they want to kind of make disappear for a little bit. And I think they accomplished that with Mobius. He definitely got a lot of these out of there. Because the tough part is Zabu is still playable. Because you can cheat out on 3, 4, still get his value. Sarah's playable, because by then, if they haven't played Mobius, you're probably good to go. Right? She Hulk is just awkward because of how and when you have to play her.
That's really what happened as a whole to her playstyle and her car. So that's a good shoutout.
Yeah, because with She Hulk, you're taking a risk skipping turn six with the magic on the board, like, there's all these things, there's a lot of inherent risk when you're playing She Hulk, and the deck just does not function if they have a Mobius and Mobius, and one little kind of there's two I want to close this out with Mr. Negative, are we so removed from Mr. Negative being one of the most popular decks and archetypes in Marvel Snap?
Remember that Mr. Negative, Brood, Silver Surfer, it was like getting the most play in Marvel Snap, then Mobius and Mobius comes out and says, Hey, Mr. Negative, Mr. Negative. Basically, you don't exist anymore. This card has been effectively deleted, going to almost less than upper, it's basically 1 percent of the meta right now at a 52 percent win rate. No reason to play him. Completely deleted.
No reason to play him. And I say that mainly, not even because of just Mobius, who did just erase what he does. But Rogue is everywhere. The best thing he did, the best thing he did, was Iron Man Mystique. And now that's gone too. Most of the time. And so Mr. Negative is in stitches. It's a tough time to play him. 100 percent agree. Big time follower. No question. What's your last one?
Do you know that Aero's running 1 percent of the meta right now? 53 percent win rate? Talk about an absolute trash tier card. I can't imagine anyone ever liking Aero. This card is so damn bad. That literally, people are picking Uatu right now, sometimes more often than Aero. So like, if you're in a situation where like, listen, you love Aero. If you're the rare person who loves Aero and you're like, you know what, maybe I should just put Uatu on my decks instead.
Maybe that's a question you have to ask yourself. Cause what are your thoughts?
Right where I want it. Right where I want it, man. I don't want anyone playing it. It's like Ultron. Alright, I'll take her. And I'll just use her myself. She's fantastic. I love her. Listen, there seems to be a little bit of Pins up hate over there. Did you just lose to an arrow for 8 cubes? Is that what happened before recording? Nah, I don't know what you're talking about.
I have no reason to believe that you would be upset with me bringing up Aero in such a harsh light.
Yeah, there's like a few episodes in a row here. The National Association of Aero Haters as Alex has joined N. A. H. A. I don't know what the acronym is. You seem to be a part of over there. But yeah, it is sad. Aero Aero? I don't know, man. I still think she's okay. It's so funny. It all depends on. We're the meta stands and like, we're back out of a one card meta slam, right? Like, she was good against High Evo, because just the Hulk.
Now it's like, dude, they're dumping Elsa with 19 cards on the board, so it's like, your Aero's gonna do nothing. You're like, oh no, you pulled the Luke Cage into the lane! It's like, it just doesn't do much, right? So, sad days. Pour one out for Aero.
There's one more we gotta talk about, and it actually has a perfect impact on Aero, it's Wave. Like, this is the reason why Wave Aero has not seen play, because Wave has fallen down completely as well. It was the moment when Wave and Triple M were kinda going crazy, but now, it's meta share has just plummeted, it's not seeing a lot of play, which is kinda crazy, because I still think it's really good. It's win rate is still solid. But yeah, pour one out for Wave and Aero.
Sucks to be someone who loves Aero, I'll tell you that right now.
Well dude, we gotta transition, we got to talk about it. I've been just itching to talk. Nico, Minoru. We thought, Alex, we thought, would it be the next Legion? Was everybody sleeping on this card? How good will she actually be, Nico, in her seven spells? Alex, initial thoughts, impressions on Nico.
So, Nico is a beautiful card, and let me explain why. It is balanced, But most importantly, it's incredibly fun. It has a 25 percent share of the meta, but only running a 53 percent win rate. It's highest shells are destroy with 55%. But the key thing about Nico that's so fantastic is that everyone unlocked it just because they want to play a fun card. Can you imagine playing a card game for fun? Can you imagine Marvel Snap being a fun game? And that's exactly what this card did.
It brought the fun back into Marvel Snap, and I could not be more happy.
One of my favourite cards to come. Recently. It reminded me of, like, what Loki did. It's these cards with extremely unique abilities that just ignite fun. Ignite fun with choice. And choice can be risky, but Nico, guys, the thing that everybody seemed to miss is that Nico Minoru, most of her choice is good. Situationally is good. And so Nico Minoru is what I gave. I think what we ended on, I think we gave her 4. 5 going into it. Even at the beginning of the season, we gave her good ratings.
I think we were higher up on her then Moat. Like, you know, we kinda said she could be terrible, but for the most part, it looked like she was gonna bring some heat. We gotta start with the spells, man, before we talk about anything else. Dude, all these spells seem great. I mean, seriously, I love them all. I mean, yeah, you have the location change that can bite you in the butt.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't want to be a Debbie Downey here, and I think she's just fine Dude, she's gonna be just fine if they take it back. This spell, on reveal after you play your next card, Destroy, and draw two, is probably gonna get tamed down to one to a one draw as well. And that's okay!
Because I think it's a little, dude, there are decks out there, the reason why she's working so well in Destroy, which we can get to, is that you get a draw 2, plus have the advantage of the destruction, all of a sudden you are getting your combos. Like, Crystal lovers are in shambles, right? Because this is just 20 times better than Crystal, for a 1 cost card.
It's one of the reasons why Deadpool is such a massive riser. Like I said, Destroy is the highest win rate shell by a wide margin. And second is going to be Thanos. For all the reasons why you're saying like these, these are very easy to sacrifice cards. You can draw through your deck and get that, you know, early Professor X, get that whatever it is you need. You're able to cycle through your deck so fast.
And so like, suddenly that Soul Stone nerf doesn't mean as much when Nico just says, Ah, don't worry about that. I'm just going to destroy your stupid Reality Stone. It's going to draw a card, then I'm going to draw two more cards, because why wouldn't I?
A perfect example is I was playing, I have a deck I coming out where I have her in discard. It's like, well, why would you do that? It's like, well, let me think about it. What did we just indicate earlier on the podcast? Discard when it gets its cards is almost unbeatable in a way, in the way that it works. If I lose my Lady Sif in the process, but I end up destroying her to draw two and get my Modok play with APOC. It's worth it every time, right? So, like, Nico has made her way into...
She's a phenomenal card. A phenomenal card, exactly, with the high ceiling that we thought, you know, kind of tough to play at times. Dude, the location of the right is fine. The plus two power is fantastic. But the copy of your hand? It's crazy. I just said discard two Draculas. I mean, like it, she opens up different play lines. That's unpredictable. And it's why I love her.
Yeah, I had games where I'm like, I'll just replicate Elsa Bloodstone. Look at this. But again, it was just pumping crazy value on the board. My opponent's like, well, I'm out of here. See ya. It's just like, it's been crazy. But the thing about I want to get back to, it's only a 53 percent win rate. But I think the reason why people like any other card that releases at 53 percent on aggregate, people are kind of upset about, but people are having so much fun with Nico.
That I think it kind of just gets rid of that negative connotation of, you know what, this card has to come out super heated, but there are moments where it is like the best card in Marvel Snap. You're looking at your, your Deadpool and you can replicate it, or you can look at your Deadpool, you can destroy then draw two and just, okay, well now I definitely have my Venom combo or whatever, right? It has these moments where you're like, damn.
I need to snap here because Nico just blessed me with some of the greatest gameplay I could ever possibly ask for.
That's where stats lie too. I, listen, on cards that are complex, Loki, bad stats. Man thing, bad stats. Good cards. They're, they're tough to play at times, right? And so Nico is one of those big brain cards. You want to get the most use out of her. Sometimes it seems like you could play her on curve, but you don't want to. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this. I think looking ahead... At the next few weeks, Nico is the car that you won't be able to replace.
And if you like Destroy, if you like Thanos, and you've identified to yourself that you like her playstyle, she is worth the unlock. I, there's no question about it. If you're on the fence, you have one day to do it. Man, I love Nico. Now, if you don't like her, you're not gonna play her. She's gonna collect dust. But I think she's worth the unlock. No question.
Yeah, one thing that I'll say is, the way I best describe Nico is the card is not overpowered, but it generates overpowered moments, right? Where it's like, I can't believe this is happening, I can't believe I'm this blessed, I need to snap, I need to take advantage of this, and that's what Nico does. But if you're patient, right, sometimes the effects aren't to your liking. But that's okay, because that is what brings balance to Nico's chaos.
So, absolutely remarkable card, incredibly well designed, I'm glad it's in the game, and you know what, I'm glad that it's performing above expectations.
Yep, absolutely. She's got a lot of weird interactions too, man. Like, I'm telling you, I've played more Marvel Snap because of Nico Minoru and even Message Colleen. I was like, hey dude, hit it out of the effing park. This has been such a fun card. Good job here. So man, I'm loving Nico and excited to see the more decks that come out from, you know, from what she can create. Well, dude, let's wrap it up. Let's take it home. And we're going to talk about the biggest surprise cards at every cost.
Right now, how do you get the cubes, man? How are you going to take the biggest advantage of the moment and surprise your opponent? They're not expecting it, right? Let's just say this. Playing Chavez on a discard deck, they know what's coming. What can you play that's going to take people by surprise, Alex? And we're going to kick it off. As always, we've got to start with the one cost cards.
Alex, I think that this one has a couple, at most cost, have a couple of cards that could, you know, slot in here. For me, though, to pick just one, I had to go with Ghost Spider. I think Ghost Spider, if it's not Nico, it's Ghost Spider. That, that was kind of my thought process behind it. Playing more of it, the surprise factor behind it's great. I think with Werewolf, you got some weird things going on, too. So Ghost Spider right now is my most surprised way to win cubes fast.
I like that because I feel like no one's playing Ghost Spider right now, and that's part of the allure. That's part of the surprise, right? And hopefully more people can get their hands on it, right? And let's see if the meta share increases, but we've been talking about it for a while. That ghost spider on turn six is a very surprising and impactful play, right? For a number of reasons and werewolf by night. So we're going to make that even more prevalent. Now Nico was my cheat.
I kind of like, Hey, Nico is pretty surprising, but let's not, let's not, we've already pumped Nico's tires enough today. I got two. I want to bring to you. One's a meme. One's for real. Ebony Maw. Now I want to talk about Ebony Maw here because people kind of forget he exists. And in that Sauron show, I'm like doing math. I'm like, I bet you they're not mathing for Ebony Maw right now. I bet you they're not thinking about me doing Taskmaster and then Ebony Maw in turn six.
And sure enough, that Ebony Maw comes down and it switches the lane. It flips the location. It did not expect. Ebony Maw has always been a surprise. And my meme choice, of course, is Umbaku.
Dude, I'll be legit. I haven't played an Umbaku deck, eight months. Like at least eight months. I'm missing out. I'm missing out. I'm missing out on probably some. Ve What did I say earlier? You gotta have low lows, alright? But the high highs of the Imbaku win, it may be unbeatable in Snap.
It is. It's absolutely wild what Mbaku can do, but unfortunately, Mbaku has the Quicksilver effect, where it's always in your starting hand.
Always. Every single time. It's like, what's good? You're useless now. Two cost cards, Alex. I think this is obviously our biggest category of ones that can, you know, come in here. For me, it's like, it's Ying and Yang. You have to have both of them, in my opinion. But a turn 6, turn 5, mainly turn 6, Luke Cage play where they had no idea that was in your deck. And or, what's the yang? You got the Shadow King. Right, both of these, I think you could go with either of them.
Maybe they Shadow Kinged you. Maybe you Shadow Kinged yourself. And then you play Luke Cage. These right now are the biggest ways to swing power quickly.
Yeah, Shadow King was my choice as well. There's no question that Shadow King is a card that gets absolutely no respect in Marvel Snap. I mean, it's kind of sad that even Angela had to get nerfed because like, Angela was solved by Shadow King. And there's moments like that when I'm like, we just nerfed a card, Angela. We're like, really, we had the answer. Like, Shadow King resolves Angela, it resolves Collector, but we just weren't playing it.
Like, we just got greedy in some of our decks, we're playing our greedy ass deck against their greedy ass deck, and we don't have the tech to deal with their, their greed. It's like, damn it, we had the tools all along, folks, do we really need to nerf Angela when Shadow King was right there smiling? My meme choice, though, I want to hit you with a meme. Okay. I'm gonna say Hazmat, and this is a personal choice because no one in their right mind expects me to play Hazmat.
Luke Cage is as prevalent as it is and as powerful as it is, as you just explained. But like, honestly, nobody, especially when it's not like a straight up obvious toxic deck, nobody expects me to drop Hazmat on turn six. I alluded to that Spectrum toxic deck that I've been experimenting with. And like, seriously, it takes me by surprise every time. I think Hazmat's time is coming. We got Annihilus coming up, we got some other tools for it, so don't sleep on Hazmat.
I gotta tell you, there'll be times when Wong's out there, and I'm like... I could beat this. I'm like some Tigers, like, let's go. And then, and then I get hit with like, the Hazmat Absorber Man Odin Bomb. And I'm like, okay, well, negative 18 is not gonna cut it on my side over here. Yeah definitely. I, you know, surprised because I don't play her. So, that's the perfect time to get her out right now. And her time is coming. I think you've nailed that. Three costs listed.
There's a billion up here. I think there's plenty that we can talk about. To surprise, for me, it's, it's hard to not pick the tech cards, man. It's hard not to pick the ones we've already kind of alluded to. Killmonger and Rogue, both of those, to me, are by far the biggest ways still to get cubes for those players that are... Think that they've got it beat. They've got the ongoing card that you can't win against. They've got the powerful Nebula that they just let that lane win itself.
You let her power up. You're playing a deck that doesn't really have her. You don't have a Nova as a hey, I'm playing Killmonger. I definitely have him still as such a surprise bug.
Yeah, so for me, Rogue was my number one and for everything that you just said, like, it's a complete game changer, it completely flips the board, it's been an absolutely reliable card, and in the past it's never been that reliable, but it is now. The other one I want to kind of showcase here and just make an argument for Spider Man. Now, I know you're thinking, Spider Man is not a surprise card, Alex, what the...
But listen, I've been seeing a lot of Hela, I've been seeing a lot of Invisible Woman... A lot of tribunal, and when you yoink a yoink that Invisible Woman into another location and that MODOK is just sitting there like, Whoops! Well, I'm just gonna reveal and bomb the deck. It is a great snap condition when you see an Invisible Woman sitting there and you're holding Spooder in your hand and you're like, Well, I hope you're not playing MODOK on turn 5, because I got a present for ya.
Yeah, dude, I don't, I don't disagree at all with it, man. It's funny, you've been saying some mean choices, and for me, I've got like... Maybe it's not a meme choice, but one that I was like, Okay, this could be, this could make it, maybe as a surprise card with that. I think Dazzler's so interesting because people don't really think about the way she gains power. Like, they just don't, right? Like, you can finish off a lane like the Raft, and they're like, alright, well, you lost that lane.
And all of a sudden, you get up to 3 8 pretty quickly. So, I've won a couple with her where I'm like, alright, she's kind of cheeky. Maybe not my premier most surprising card, but, you know, I had to throw my meme choice. But I do like this Spider Man a ton. He's... He's a, he's just top five card in my opinion.
This makes a lot of sense. You look like a Taylor Swift fan.
I do. Yeah, that or cozy. That's what people think. The dazzler Dan hip looks like yeah, I'm not much of a Swiftie. It's not that I don't, I don't like hate Swift, but I don't at all. I think she's great and a good person, but I don't I'm much of a listener. However, my buddy, let's go to forecast. What do you got for the most surprising forecast card?
I hate to say it, but I wrote down Shang Chi, because like, people do not respect me using Shang Chi, like, they just don't, and I'm sitting there, I'm streaming, I'm like, this person does not respect me just punching this card out, like, they just do not think I have Shang Chi, and I do, I play it, and they just lose, the whole Shang Chi doesn't exist meme is like, so aggressively playing Shang Chi you Prevalence right now. It just felt, I don't understand. It's just gone. It's just gone.
Like people just aren't playing Shang Chi. Cause I think every super greedy deck, we have like these very, like very tight decks right now in Marvel Snaps meta. They just like, it's like, well, I can play Shang Chi and make my win rate go up or I can be greedy as hell and make numbers go boom.
It's Shang Chi is like a life in so many ways. If you put him in a deck that he's not supposed to be in, like, dude, I was playing a discard deck. And I was like, I'm 8cubesnap and I had this guy beat in every single way. I was like, I was winning my lane big over here. He was thinking, and then he played a Shang Chi. What the hell is that doing in that deck? And I lost to it, 8cubes, right? Like, that's where he does his best and or the meta where he's not prevalent, which is right now.
You can't go wrong with Shang Chi. For me, buddy, it's Moon Girl. And by I love Moon Girl as a surprise card. Now people are like, what the hell are you talking about? I'm not saying Devil Dinosaur, boost him up at the end. It's more of you have no idea. They have no idea what card you have copied into your hand. Now, one major tip that you gotta get better at, guys. Is play your non Moongirl copy when you get a copy. Because it has, when they click on the card, generated by Moongirl.
You don't want to be giving up what you've done and what you've copied. And so it's a good habit to get into. But Moongirl has a lot of surprise factor and weight behind her that I think people don't respect. And I'm a giant fan of double up decks. Yeah, you know what?
The Moongirl is a great call. You've been high on Moongirl lately, which is kind of nice to see, because I feel like I've traditionally been the Moongirl lover, and then here you are. I love her. Coming on over to the dark side here, and that's fantastic. And just for a just quick shout out here, I want to shout out to the 4 drop Iron Lad, which continuously surprises me at how complete dogshit it can be when it pulls the most useless card in my deck, instead of the card that I need to win.
So, shout out to Iron Lad, thank you for ruining my dreams and crushing my soul.
I'm over here like love you. I am thanks for getting my Devil Dinosaur copy. Dark Hawk, gotta love him, man. Five cost card.
Five costs for me. I'm going to start off with claw because I've been playing a lot more claw, especially with the the reemergence of spectrum and ain't nobody in their right mind. is accounting for Claw's plus six power. Nobody, like, nobody's like, Hmm, they're going to play Claw. And I just do. And they're like, Oh, look at this. I was playing Claw in like Spectrum Destroyer, which I thought was really funny, which by the way, Spectrum Destroyer, not as good as it used to be.
I'll tell you right now that that felt like it aged poorly. And so, I mean, it was like, you're playing Warp Axe. Like what am I even doing right now? You know what I mean? It just did not age well. I was hoping with the Spectrum buff that, you know, the ongoing Destroyer would make a comeback. But anyways, I played a lot of Claw over the last few days. And I got to tell you, nobody expects them.
So what my favorite thing about Claw 2 is, is what OmegaRed misses. He can try to do it too, and that's why I like playing Omega at time to time. Is power, that's just power. There's no way to affect it. There's no Shadow King that can mess with it. Yeah, you have Rogue. But you know what I mean? Like the power that's in that lane can't be affected. And I want to see more cards like that because I think they're very interesting in their play line.
And you guys are going to see one because it's next season pass card. Like the Claw buddy. For me, 5 costs. We, we, we talked about them. So I had Legion, but we already kind of gave him his like, I still think he's a surprise. I don't know why people aren't playing him. Dude, it's Valkyrie. Valkyrie is still great. Valkyrie is good, man. Talk about a awesome counter to destroy. Talk about an awesome counter to anything that's not ongoing. A lot of ongoing cards, but not a ton of them.
That are being played that boost. I mean, yes, Thanos and whatnot. But I think Valkyrie is still a very surprising card, because no one's expecting her to drop on turn 5, bud.
I've always been a huge Valkyrie fan, so I really appreciate the shoutout here, and Valkyrie actually kind of reminded me of one more that we should maybe kind of just give some props to in in the 5 cost, and that's LDS. Lady Deathstrike, I mean, it's being, it's seeing almost no play, but I gotta tell you, every single time I have Wong just waiting there with with like, Iron Ironheart, it's like, wow, they have LDS. I never saw that coming, and like, actual tears kind of go down my cheeks.
It's, dude, it's kind of sad because Nico took her spot brief, in her brief window in Destroyer. Like, she was awesome in Destroyer because of Forge. But because Nico doesn't give her the power before the on reveal, you kind of lost your spot, you know? But I love her! Like, dude, I played Dracula the other day, and I was like, the only thing I would lose to is LDS, and sure enough, like, this guy happened to have her, and I was like, dude, you're coloring me surprised, right?
So I do like the, the honorable shout out for LDS. Six cost cards, man. I'm not going to be sexy here. I think the biggest surprise card is Alioth. I mean, I don't even know if you can say it's a surprise card when you know what's coming most of the time. But did that be talking about the biggest swing, the way you win the most. It's hard to not say Alioth, although there are plenty of others here.
Yeah, I chose Alioth as well. I do have a backup because I figured we were both going to say Alioth, and it's the big whale. It's the big whale, the best pixel variant in Marvel Snap, it's Orca. Listen, I'm still a firm believer in Orca. I don't care what anyone says. You can't talk me off of the Orca bandwagon. Actually, it's not a bandwagon. I'm like, the king of the bandwagon. What's the wagon? Who's, who's, is my the conductor of the bandwagon?
You're the conductor. You're the conductor of the Orca train.
Yes, exactly. And listen, there's more space, guys. There's more space on board the Orca train. I'm expecting more people on it. And Cozy, you yourself, damn it, you're not on the Orca train. I don't see you. I don't see you on the Orca
I'm not even at the station. I'm like, I'm, I'm at home looking at SeaWorld's videos. I don't play Orca. I just don't. I'm not an Orca guy. I, there's not a Tuma Orca deck. That's good. It works. There's the Orca Maybe I gotta give Shamu a try.
I'm so upset with you, that you did, like... Listen, I'm happy that you're admitting that you want to give it a try, but to say that you're not even at the station... Like, are you telling me that you would rather play, like, I don't know, Crossbones over Orca? Like, Crossbones or Orca, who are you taking?
Probably Orca. I don't play a lot of Crossbones. But, like, I'm still not at the station, though. Because I'm not at the Crossbones station, I can tell you that. They don't have me over there, either. Orca's just like... Make him 5 cost, tone him down a stat or two, and I'll play him. I don't like him for 6, personally.
Come on, he's great for 6, I think. Okay, last question to close this out. Would you accept Orca as the running back to the New England Patriots?
Dude, I'd take Orca on any team. Yeah, man. Look at this guy. Look at those abs. Kinda looks like he has a football in his hand right there, dude. The I want an NFL team. The Orlando Orcas. Hell of a mascot, dude. But even, even more impressive, 52 episodes, bud. 52 episodes, and we're gonna, we gotta, we gotta shout it out again, man. We only get one anniversary, right? Like... It's amazing. You know, do we follow the same thing as wedding anniversary? It's the paper anniversary.
Do we get, do you have a gift for me? I have yours. It's coming.
I have a gift for you? I mean, my, my undying love and affection, like the vows that we've spoken, that is the most powerful gift of all.
I've got, I've got an Orca 20 by 20 coming to your house. So if you say you like him, dude, I hope you do. He's a paper mache. He's going to take up your entire back, back set there. Is that okay?
Oh, absolutely, buddy. I'll happily accept that gift from you. That's, that's one of the nicest gifts anyone's ever sent me. And if, once it arrives, I'm gonna cuddle it, I'm gonna embrace it, and I'm gonna make sure the world knows how much I love Orca.
I'm looking forward to seeing that on your your O. F. Now, I did want to give you, obviously, a big hope you have a great, happy Halloween. Everyone listening, I hope you guys have a safe, happy Halloween as well. And someone said they're dressing up as me. I was like, what does that pertain of? I have no idea. But Alex I'm gonna go as you. I'm going to go as you. I have a let's go ready to go.
Buddy, let me give you some advice. Here's how you dress up as me. Put on an Adidas tracksuit and gain like 30 pounds. So you got it.
You did it. Done and done. I'll start eating now. Guys, thank you so much for coming to this episode.
Well guys, thank you so much for all the support you give to Cozy and I. It's been truly remarkable one year of the Snapchat and it's only possible because of you. So thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
Alex, 52 episodes we've got. We were going to have Glyn on this episode, guys. We have a better one coming. Don't worry, he'll be coming on in the coming weeks, and it's going to be worth the wait there. We've got great special guests. Year 2 is going to be awesome as we bring a lot of new additions. To our second year, Season 2 of the Snapchat. A big thank you guys again for just watching every week. The numbers have increased every single week on the podcast side of things.
It blows my mind that this is what we get to do. And so man, cheers to another 52.
Oh, no kidding, buddy. I can't wait for the next year. I really can't. After that, the year after. I can't wait. This is, if I'm gonna do anything, it's gonna be the Snapchat. I absolutely love it, and I appreciate everything you do to support you know, great content across Marvel Snaps community.
Well, good luck out there for Halloween, Superman, and hopefully your family doesn't turn on you as they, as they realize you're the the odd one out. Anyway, guys, have a good one. Have a great one and until the next one, happy snapping.