Nico Minoru: The BEST one cost in the game? | Marvel Snap Wishlist for Year 2 | LIVE! Snap Chat Mailbag | The Snap Chat Ep. 51

What's going on guys? And welcome to the 51st episode of the Snapchat, the first ever that we did the whole thing live on Twitch. And today we'll be breaking down Nico Roo. She comes out on Tuesday, one of the most complex cards to ever drop in a Marvel Snap. Is she worth going after with your tokens or can you safely skip her? We're also gonna be talking about year two of Marvel Snap.

It's been a completely insane week, right? Insane week, so much excitement around Marvel snap. Something that I've noticed, and I think it really rang true this time, was that a lot of returning players coming back to snap, excited just to kind of see what's been changing, what's up, get into the Twitch drops and stuff like that, get the free rewards. And I saw a lot of chat from people that were really excited just to be back in the swing of things.

Yeah. Okay. So Twitch drops happen. I made my return to live streaming. We're doing this live now. And I missed it. I mean, it was a full year from not doing it. I mean, 10, 000 plus people for a 14 hour stream. I've never been so drained in my life, but man, it it definitely reunited my, my fuel, man. How was, how was the twist jobs? How was everything for you?

It was great. Like, honestly, I had a ton of fun. Like it was just, it was exhausting. Like it's a lot, but like, there's so much energy, so much positivity. And I mean, it was the first time. The first time, actually only the second time I've played so much Marvel snap that I stopped getting boosters and stuff because like I'd been playing so much, but basically like the Tuesday, right? I basically streamed for, I think it was 22 hours.

Dude. I woke up, I remember waking up at two hours of sleep. I woke up at like three o'clock in the morning to get ready for the 5 AM stream. And I just looked in the mirror and I'm like. This is the life I chose. It's four in the mornin and I'm ready to, to not only just like... You know, wake up, but wake up to you know, a ton of people that are ready and fired up for the day. But yeah, it was definitely fun. Definitely fun.

I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe that Human Torch actually won. I expected everyone to vote for Shang Chi, because everyone has Shang Chi and wants a pretty cool variant for it. I I love the the art style there. But like, Human Torch, do you think the win would First of all, it's gonna look amazing animated. Like, I think we we should recognize that. It's gonna be a really nice variant. But do you think this is strictly because people didn't have the card and wanted to access it?

I know the social presence was more on Shang Chi. Ghost Rider, great variant, but got dominated. Just absolutely bounced. But yeah, you know, could be for the pool 3 unlock. I, who knows how many people don't have access to the torch. But all I know is like, I'm wondering how these other two are gonna come in. But 47 percent for you podcast audio listeners. Forty three for Shang Chi, and a measly ten percent for the Ghost Rider FBI badge showin So, was shocked to see that, man.

We're going to be talking about the black night in review. We've had the black night for a full week. We've had our chance to experiment and we're going to talk about our impressions and give a review of how this card has been performing. We're also going to talk about the worst cards at every cost. And this is always a really fun discussion. We're going to give our feedback as to maybe how they can change and what cards just generally kind of suck.

Yeah, you know, we, we, we're doing it one week early. I thought this would have been really cool to do it on the full year of doing the Snapchat 51 weeks, guys, Alex and I, we have never missed a recording and it's something that's built into my life now, dude. And truly just my, my favorite video really to film weekly but regardless, man, let's go in and jump into our first subject. And hop into it, we've got Nico Minoru.

This has been one of the most difficult cards to really pinpoint its power, right? This has been one we've been talking about for weeks. It has been extremely complex and extremely hard to identify just how good or bad it's going to be. Everything in me as a competitive Marvel Snap player wants to say this card is going to be bad.

So here's how Nico works, because this is definitely one we've talked before, Alex, about. We've got to see how it plays out. Nico is one of those. We have to see how it plays out. We've seen the devs answer questions. It's happened before, and it still played out differently when it happened, and Nico is very evident of that. So, from my understanding, she's a lot like how Forge would work, right? So guys, Nico has seven different spells that we're gonna talk about today.

Oh, absolutely. And I believe you are correct. Right. And that's going to be important and that's part of the testing process. Like there's going to be cards that really benefit from that reveal order. And I'm sure we're going to dive into them when we start talking about some of the available synergies and stuff like that, because there are a number of cards that are going to be very synergistic with Nico when the stars align for its effects.

Okay. So I want to talk about it because I think we'll get, let's go to the spells. I think that's where we're going to start. Then we can talk card synergies decks. I'm going to go out on a limb. I feel like Nico's going to be a good card. I think at the beginning, she looked like she's going to be too inconsistent. She feels like she's going to be a luxury card. Like she's always going to be cuttable in a way, right?

I gave, I mean, I kinda cheated. I said two stars, but I put a bracket and said, probably, maybe, actually four. So I really copped out and gave two ratings. Like, either two or either four is what I said. That's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't know, man, like, this, this card, like, it's, it's crazy to say, like, I actually just don't know. Like, it's, it's completely complex, completely wild, we've never had anything quite like it.

Yeah, so, okay, I'm gonna give her on the high side a 4. 5, and on the low side like a like a 2, maybe a Black Knight kind of status, right? If she works out well, she's gonna be a tremendous utility card. We saw that with the new Snow Guard, right? Like, the upgraded Snow Guard. We were able to really utilize it, and I think she could be a game changer, or she could suck, and we're gonna break down where we see her working today.

Yeah, it's, it's a good spell, but like, I like that it's, it's complex in the sense that, like, you don't want to play this with a bishop, or you don't want to play this with an Angela, or, like, so there's going to be some moments where you're like, well, I can't play this, and that's what Niko does, but there's going to be other times where, like, you get a widow's bite in your hand, and then you're able to use the widow's bite to turn it into a demon, right?

And that's the big thing. That's where I think this thing is going to have, you have to have cards that can benefit off multiple of these spells. Right? So in my opinion the white tiger, the electro is one we're going to talk about electro is insane with a lot of these. But you need to have it in the right deck. Like, why is Electro in a Neeko deck? Right, you need to have it make sense. And so I do think as a ramp card she could work because the one spot is kind of fillable in those decks.

It's definitely strong. And like it's one of the cards that I've been thinking about a lot of, a lot of, like when I was kind of like putting together some notes and doing some research and kind of figuring out like, how am I going to try and use this card? And there's one card specifically that's come up constantly for me and it's wasp.

It's gonna be, the randomness is what we're gonna have to figure out, how to work through, it's gonna have to be a filler, you're gonna have to have... Turns where you can do X or you can play Nico plus this card to get the pop off, right? And we're gonna get to decks and combos, but I think Patriot is a natural home for that reason. I think there's a lot of play lines. Either way, I think the Demon has a home. Lastly on this, before we go to the next spell, Mysterio? How does that work?

I actually have no idea what that interaction, like, we literally have to test that. There's no other answer to that. No

clue, dude. We're going to have to really see how it works. Spell 2, everybody. We have same thing, Anuviel. This, in my opinion, there's the two best spells in Niko. And this is the one that in the right deck, that seems crazy. It's you got an Adam Warlock, but better. Anuviel, after you play your next card, you destroy it. And then you draw two cards. Alex, this is by far the way it's right up there with the winning spell to me.

It is it's, it's insane. And like, if you think about what it can do with X 23 Wolverine, pretty much any destroyed package card, Deadpool. It's wild. It's absolutely wild. And I just. Listen, being able to destroy a card and draw two is insane. In fact, like the initial thought I had is like, if Nico's going to get nerfed, if Nico is too strong, this is the one that gets nerfed. It turns into destroy and draw one for sure. This seems incredibly powerful.

Yeah. Yep. But especially for combo decks, right? Like right off the bat, destroy it. We, you just kind of led to it. Destroys can be the natural synergy, like X 23 Deadpool Wolverine. Yes, and we have to see if we can squeeze her in to work into those lists. But I think we can, because it kind of makes sense. You've got the demon for Venom to eat, right? Like, we have multiple effects where destroy makes sense with her. And bad draws, right?

I think it's pretty bad, like, I'm kinda with you, like, maybe it's probably second worst, maybe fighting for the worst as well, but there's gonna be times, right? There's gonna be times where it's gonna be useful but yeah, it's definitely one of the weaker ones, but still, it's, it's versatility, it's, it's like, There's a lot of, like comparisons towards the Thanos Infinity Stones here, right?

I think this might get overlooked a bit, though, cause what I do like about it, First of all, we've seen this before, like move decks, they get a little more spice. This could definitely bring, you know, something to it. We need more spells that push to the right for casual players. Everything goes to the left pretty much for move. So, you know, a dagger you know, spider 29. 9, dare I've reached that far. But they have a simple activation, right?

I agree. Actually, that's something that like had been lifting my spirits on Niko a little bit, the idea that each individual of these spells could actually potentially kind of hold their own in terms of value and merit, like they're just good. And they're going to be competitively statted as well. But Again, the random nature is kind of the, the offsetting factor here, but individually, they are good. Like there's going to be used for them.

We got volt. You got vulture. You got all the human torch variants that everybody's getting that you go you can play. And then that obviously will take us to Phoenix Force, I'll talk about that deck. But we're talking about a lot of cards, Destroy. You're seeing a lot of common theme here, and I think there's a purpose behind that. So that's Spell 3. Spell 4 is going to be On Reveal after you play your next card. Give it plus 2 power. So this was one at first I was like, whoa!

I believe that's the case because the honor reveal effect will happen first and then this effect is applied so I don't think it actually helps brood or Mr. Sinister or any of those replicating style cards but I mean again the mechanics can be weird. We've had, we've had cards like this where like we think it's going to work one way and then it ends up working a completely different way but I believe you're correct. I don't see brood actually benefiting from this but I could be wrong.

So in that case right we got to look at where it's like Kind of happens two different ways. So we have this where it's not going to help out, you know, Brood, Mr. Sinister. You know, kind of helps Black Panther a little bit Human Torch, whatever. But the cards that it does help out are kind of cheeky, interesting, and I'm wondering how this works.

It is interesting, but like, it's, it's the, so you'd have to commit energy prior to the turn, half the right card, lock in. Like, there's so much like RNG to it. It's, it's good, like, it's good, but like, can you, you never reliably able to do that. You're never able to reliably do that. It's basically a one and I don't want to do the math on it, but like you have one in seven chance to have the effect you want with Nico to play Valkyrie that next turn. Yes. Like, you know what I mean?

But at the same time, it's, there's other cars. She's a one cost. The demons of one cup. There's other things that work into making that just work. And then if it happens to line up, it lines up. But yeah, I do understand that that is where Nico falls short is the randomness powerful spells, big boom for one cost. High randomness. Another card I thought of with the after the honor reveal. Again, it would have to line up.

It's probably just fine, but like, you're not exa There's no high end combo play here. This is just like straight up tech utility. Like, you get it, and if you need to get rid of a combo, then you can do it. It's okay. Cerebro 2 buff, I guess. Like, I don't know. Like, I mean? Like.

Here's the thing. I think this spell will feel the best to have in a normal game flow, because You can you're playing Patriot Brood, you have Niko down, this spells up. And you're like, alright, I might as well change this location, cause it's gonna help them out a little bit more, right? It kinda edges the advantage a bit more, even though it's random. You know, there's those games where it's like, this one doesn't punish you, and that's kinda like, why I like it.

Woah, woah, woah, this doesn't punish you? Have you not played Scarlet

Witch before? Yeah, right, dude. Yeah, you haven't rolled the dice on Warrior Falls, killing your whole team, or whatever. But, for the most part, I think this is a nice play it, forget it, and it kinda just keeps things going. Yeah,

it doesn't have, like, a high ceiling. Like, we're not gonna get hyped up over this ability, but it's probably completely fine, right?

Yeah. Yep, so this is Spell number 5. Can't believe we're still working through it, but we have Spell 6. And that is going to be on reveal after you play your next card. Add a copy of it to your hand as a huge Moon Girl Enjoyer. I gotta say, I think this one is one of her better ones that you can set up T Ball up to work. No matter what turn, you can still have things kind of go your way. And there's some powerful card synergies here. What do you think about Spell 6?

I think this is probably one of the absolute best. And I mean, it's basically like a cloning vat style effect and there's cards that absolutely dismantle cloning vats, right? Like if you've ever had a venom cloning vats game, right? Like we're talking about possibly playing Nico in a destroy style deck. Now you're starting to see, okay, there's not just one ability that makes sense. Not just one spell that makes sense for destroy. Like this also makes sense for destroy, like venoming.

Yep. It feels like, essentially, it feels like she's going to work best, and we'll get to it, and destroy, and like flood decks. Because flood decks, you don't care, you kind of just like playing out cards to get them out there. But dude, I mean, you've seen the ba Dude, you've, we've all had those games, Bar Sinister, and you get to have multiple Elsa Bloodstones.

Always, right? I think that, I think Destroy is going to be one of the most commonly attempted strategies, but like, even copying a Kitty Pryde. Like, seriously, that's not bad. Like, when you copy a Kitty Pryde, you have an Elsa on the board, and you're just popping it back and forth, filling locations, like, that's wild. That's a lot of power. That's a lot of synergy, right? So, like, I think that that is going to be one of the best spells, for sure.

Well, and like, even, like, collector, like, cards that are, like, the game winning staple cards, getting another one of those is never bad. It's never a bad thing, and so, to me, that is probably one of the better spells that we're going to have access to. By far, the Venom Carnage being the best double XP. You know, twenty, whatever way you want to look at it. And then finally we have spell number seven. And when I first read this, I was like, hold on, is this a shuri? But it's not.

It's not half bad, but like, it's kind of bad. Unless like, there's no way you're ever playing a deck that you're like, Oh, I'm playing a Koya and a Kia and all this stuff because I want to buff Nico. Oh, it's a 1 6. I win the game. Like, there's no play line like that. So this is probably just like a, Well, I got to play this card now anyway. And Nico gets plus two, I guess.

It's the, it's the card. It's the spell you hope for if you play Nico on curve. And then like, you have to do your next turn and you're like. Shoot, I've got to play Brood this turn. I have to this turn. And you're like, oh, okay. I'll just give the double power. It's kind of like a fail safe, right, of a card?

Yeah, it's like, I've got to play Colleen Wing now, so whatever. I guess the plus two is just going to happen. Yeah, it's fine. Like, it's not, it's not problematic.

Okay, so with that, we went through the spells, guys. That's all of Neeko's spells. There's a lot of them. She cycles through each of them. You're going to see them mostly each game for the most part. She does cycle it through the deck. And even if she gets destroyed, the spell still happens. What do we like her in man immediately? Let's talk deck and card synergy. What's like your day one deck?

I mean day one deck I want to get into destroy I want to try like classic kind of like Deadpool venom destroy like I just I know that's a bit of a easy one But like honestly like it looks like it's gonna work there. Like I looks absolutely great there I can see a lot of synergy with Deadpool a lot of synergy with venom the ability for it to just destroy like a even just a Wolverine Like on curve, like who cares? Like you're drawing two additional cards and Wolverine blows up X 23 blows up.

Yeah, so when we get to the live Q& A part, like we can definitely take Nico questions because I know chats in the live chat here is going to have plenty of really good kind of thought processes, maybe that we're not thinking of when it comes to destroy, we're going to have them rate actually Nico here in a second when it comes to destroy though. I feel like that might be the high skill cap deck, for sure.

There's a lot of very obvious, good synergy with Thanos. And like any of the stones, they'll draw a card and they turn into a demon. They draw a card. Then they draw more cards. Like, like the effect is never negative. The only one that was like, well, you got to do two reality stones. Like, do you really want two reality stones? I guess. But like, other than that. Like they all do their thing and the space don't affect too. Right. Wait, is Niko basically just Thanos? Like just 2.

0. Well, that's, but here's the thing. That's why I like him because Thanos already has all this utility packed into the stones. Right. Then you have Niko that's more utility. And then probably the best piece of it is in other decks. You have your play lines and this is where Niko is going to suck. You can't do them because then you got to see how will Niko spell and then you're overthinking it. Thanos man It's like it's turn four. You don't you have claw. I can't play him.

Oh, for sure. And like I want to experiment with Thanos. Like we talked about how Thanos is feeling awful lately. Right. It just like, they're the decks still work. It's like, what's lifting Thanos is a life, right? You lock down Thanos, you play the pro acts on turn four, whatever. And then you get to Elias and put some person right in the face. Right. And that's kind of like the only thing keeping Thanos competitive since the soulstone nerf, of course.

Yeah, he's running at like a 55 percent win rate as of now. We did this with Mystique once, Alex, and I did, I got it ready today. Okay, I've got a Thanos variant ready to split. Live on the snap, we haven't done this since then, and we keep talking about, like, wanting to do this. And we're on Thanos, I'm like, should we just do this live? We gotta channel it. All right. We gotta channel it in. 'cause this is the ultimate variant too. So

This is an ultimate Flavio, so it's a big one. Come on, we gotta channel some energy here.

It's a, I've got that ink split with the red Kirby. That already feels pretty good. This is for the I'm hoping for gold on this one. Okay.

Gold rainbow. Gold rainbow is what we're looking for. Gold. Gold. Rainbow. Or gold?

Gold. It can't, it can't, it can't be too that. That's just too good. All right, here we go, man. With the vest, Steve Power, we're like two for two. Show me a good split baby. Let's go. It happened again! Let's go! You did it again! Dude,

Gold with gold stardust flare. Unbelievable.

The snapchat luck doesn't die. In fact, I'm not crazy about like the stardust flare, but the fact that it's the gold glimmer flare. With the gold? Are you kidding me?

Oh man. It's gold on gold. It's exactly what I called. We needed gold on gold. You did it.

Here's the deal. Alex, if you ever have a variant you need to open up live. We need to clip that. If there's ever a variant you want to open up live, just save it for the Snapchat. Just sit on it. Because the luck is too good. I have like 40 of them. We'll have you so full. We'll have a full thing. This is definitely a gold border, yeah?

Yeah, 100%, you gotta go to gold there. Do you have enough key to do it right now?

Dude you know what, we might as well see if I can't no, I have six boosters. I mean, I could, I could just, I could just

No, no, no, don't, do it, right?

We're doing it because we're live, we gotta put the gold border on it, right? I definitely think it needs to go Look at this! It's a Aw, man, does this beat out the other one, though?

Oh man, it's close. It sounds like the type of thing you're gonna have to run a vote for. You're gonna have to do a poll for that.

Yeah, not live yet. Well, we'll leave this up for a second. It does look really good. I'm actually over the moon. Okay. So, Thanos, I think is gonna be tremendous with Niko. Other cards that I see just immediate synergy if you're trying to run her, you know, in, in just a run of a mill deck. What about this though? How about... A little Falcon bounce action, double the spells, triple the spells. If you have it, right. And Falcon has already made him a kind of a firm spot.

Falcon's actually been on a bit of a rise like meta wise. And what's interesting about this is like. Niko will never repeat the spell. So when you bounce it back, it just continues doing the thing, right? If my, my understanding of the mechanics is correct. Yep. So like, it's a very natural fit in Bounce. Falcon, Beast, whatever it is. And so like, and realistically, like, the effects are still really good for Bounce. Right? There's still, there's still a lot of really good effects there.

Yep, 100%. I'm curious here. Bounce is going to be great. Destroy is going to be good. Overall, do people get Nika? What are you, what is your decision here? What do you think? What do you have to say? Final, you know, you got to test her. She comes with kitty pride in Phoenix Force.

So there's something I want to say before we do that. Okay? Cause we're glancing over something here. Now this, this was like a thought I had. It's been digging into my mind. Like, hold on a second. We've seen this before. You just said it. Nico is with Phoenix force and Kitty pride. Now we saw this a couple of weeks ago when LDS was with MIT with man thing, and we were selling this short and all of a sudden we're like, wait a minute, man thing LDS actually works.

A hundred percent. I like Lightly touched on it when we were talking about the spells. It feels like Phoenix Force could really use this card. Other decks kind of work already. Whereas Phoenix Force, this could be a missing piece, right? Because you can get double draw. You can get into your Phoenix Force. Sometimes you destroy stuff. You don't get the Phoenix Force. It's awkward. There isn't really a bad setback. And that's why I feel like Patriot as well.

Yeah. The, the, the, the variant for Phoenix is on the weaker side of my opinion. And cause like, considering what you've got here, this one's insane, right? But the kitty one is a cover art from like Kim. So that's like a really, really nice one. I mean, I guess my advice is always consistent here. I think that you, you wait, like, I don't think you drop six K tokens on Niko. Like, I don't think it's that kind of meta shaker. I don't think it's an Elias or anything like that.

But what she will be is irreplaceable, right? So Legion, Jeff, whatever, even Jeff, you could do some other things. She'll be irreplaceable. Yeah, you can't like what she's gonna bring to the deck. Like there's no way we can make a deck around her What is what is nico's replacement? I'm like doesn't exist doesn't exist You know, it's kind of like how do you replace the infinity stones? Whatever. It's just it's to their specific deck build, right?

I mean, it's, you should've asked me before it started hovering around 7, but... This is higher than I thought! This is higher than I expected. I was expecting like a 4. What are we doing here? Chat is high on Niko.

Oh, it's tanked. Now that we're like beefing it up, it's tanking here. If you're listening to this on a podcast while you're driving maybe to work. It's at a 7. It's about floating around a 7. But as I speak, it goes down, but you know, this is about, I thought maybe it was gonna be like a, a five. I think a five was kind of what I thought it was going to end up at here. But my gosh.

I mean, maybe we're the ones that are a little low on on Nico, but this might be one of those cards. That's like day one, 42 percent win rate. And then literally on Saturday, it has like a 65 percent win rate deck. Like, you know what I mean? It's going to be, it's. There's, we haven't had many cards quite as complex mechanically as this. So I think that staying patient, not getting caught up in the hype and holding onto your tokens and just waiting it out is going to be the most prudent thing.

And she comes out, it's going to, I'm going to end it at about a 6. 6 is where this is headed to maybe even a seven if I left it on. She does come into spotlight later this year. And so, Hey, who knows? Maybe if you want to wait on her, you can grab her then. And definitely, yeah, she's not going to make her break a deck. You know, I think. There might be one specific deck that you have to have Niko to run, and it's still going to be able to be beat through a number of different ways.

There's a lot that I want in year two. Like my list here has some heavy hitters, but if I'm going to talk about the thing that I really want cozy, the thing I want the most, there's a few like nice things that I'd like. I think we really need a draft or arena mode. I really do believe we need another mode. If you think about what conquest did for the game, I think it did a lot to give people an alternate way to kind of play the game.

Yeah, so whether you're listening on the podcast, you would have to come over to YouTube, or you're watching live on YouTube, comment down below or in the chat right now, what is the number one thing you guys want out of year two? Usually, second year video games do pretty well. They got the first year down, they know what they're doing. Second year, they get it right even more so. And I think we have a great foundation for Marvel Snap.

100 percent I think the social features are one of the most important things because like when I think back to my time playing even something like World of Warcraft, which I know seems like completely irrelevant to the Marvel snap, but what can be playing World of Warcraft wasn't the actual game loop itself. It was the guild I was in. It was the raids that I was participating in.

Yes, they've talked about doing it. And I think here's the deal. This is the two things. And I agree, by the way, I came from a Disney game. And the whole thing that kept that alive was the club aspect. And having, you know, mutual interest or whatever. The thing is though, they can't look to monetize everything. So when it comes to the clubs, I don't want them to create angst to play, right? Like, you don't want to...

No, I don't know either, but I do trust second dinner to be creative with the way they design these things. Like conquest, I think it was a really cool design. The game itself is meticulously well designed, but I want to touch on something really important that you actually mentioned too, is I agree that the social stuff. I think needs to make Marvel snap better.

Like, stuff we're never gonna get is like, Hey, can you lend me 50 boosters to Hulkbuster? Like, I don't think that's gonna exist. I don't think you're gonna be able to like, Hey, throw me a gold ticket you know, whatever. It may, maybe they do. I just doubt that it's going to be the way, but yeah, so social, big piece, step one. Okay. Step two, quality of life, quality of life, right? These are little things that they can bring to the game that are like, well, that's a nice touch. Right?

The first for me is that we need better and more rewarding splits. I mean, splits are terrible. Half the time, like getting getting foils and prisms, like they look awful half the time. I mean, every single day you see Reddit posts about people saying like, yo, I bought this variant for 1200 gold. I split it. And like the background is just gone or like, it looks like no is squatting on a potty or like whatever it is. Right. Like there's been so many.

So, okay. First of all, I have good news for you. I had johnny Who's the he I can't call him art director He's the art manager of Snap. You get, he's responsible for getting all the artists to the game, things like that. We had him live for the Wheel of Snap and man I kind of felt bad. I was like, here we go. I'm just going to say it.

Yeah, there absolutely has to be more types of splits. And I wonder if that'll work into, like, there's supposed to be some, like aesthetic level or some collection level grading that we're supposed to be getting at some point next year. Do you remember that? They announced that like, you're going to have a collection, like a collectors level. Based on how many variants you have and stuff like that that might unlock. You don't remember that?

I barely remember that.

I barely remember too, but I almost positive... I don't remember what it's called.

Oh, dude, the prestige thing!

The pr the Prestige level. They they talked about it at one point.

Yes, dude. That and that that's another thing. It's like, hey, cool! Or dude, like, the emotes? Like, we got, like, a sneak peek at Comic Con of these emotes. Like, these are so cool! And then, like... They've just never come, like, where the f are they? You know what I mean? Like, it just

The only mode I see is this.

Also dude, just like slightly, we've talked about this before, but I would love to see a I think the launch of fullscreen, widescreen PC was great. I would like to see a bit more sizzle and maybe like an overall, I know they've talked about this more ways to sort by boosters and maybe some screens don't look like it's almost just like a portrait mode on your, you know what I mean? I think it could get a little sizzle.

Yeah, it needs more pizzazz, like even the gameplay itself, like we have like the floating asteroid, which is cool, but like, we get like, you know, a comet every once in a while, it's cool. Like, we're like, we get something, we get a supernova in the background. Can we get an alien spaceship? Can we get a battle in the background? Can we see like. You know like something, just something, just something happening at home. Because right now it's just this floating asteroid.

I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to maintain clean UIs. And so it's tough in a game that's like it's kind of mobile for it first. Right. I'll just pick a random bear in here. But it's tough because it's mobile first, but like having a tracker. It's tough, because like, where do you put it? Doing different Like game boards can be tough because how does that change it?

Absolutely. There's no question. I think that, like, those types of experiences could generally, like, just make the play experience better. And, they did such a great job with the PC UI, like it's such a, it's just wide. It's wide, it's beautiful, right? Like why not make it even more beautiful?

Yep, I agree. And then like when it comes to mechanics, I think like people are, are hating roping and sometimes the snap mechanic where you can wait to snap and then it's like benefiting that. I think there's some small mechanics that they can tweak and make a little bit better. I think though that what they've got great in year one is gameplay and balance changes. I think for the most part those feel really good, the meta feels good.

I think the spotlight system's a mess right now. I think that the, you know, the amount of repetition we're getting is rough. The fact that like Howard, the duck is not in, it's a total meme at this point. Howard, stagger on like. Iron lad only being once, then you get like null three, four times, like all that stuff, like we know that they know this is an issue, but that's an issue that needs to be resolved before the spotlight cash system came out. Collector's reserves are completely useless.

Yeah. So serious drops, like we got to start there. Like they got to get the serious jobs going because then we can get a bit more. What it is, is I think all this stuff, if it came out, not at once, but kind of, would feel pretty good, right? Because if you do a refresh to the season pass, you get all these emotes now. You can get an emote, whatever it is. You can start plugging that crap, or new split stuff. You can start plugging that stuff into the cache, right?

Oh man, that is such a hard question to be put on the spot for, I mean, we, there's so many cards in there and it's crazy, I mean, for me, I guess I think about the, this sounds dumb, but during the X Men animated series, they had like the Canadian episode, with the little,

of course, of course,

the little dude that is, it looked so bad, that was such a hilarious episode as a Canadian, it was like absolute It was like, it was like literally the most slapstick version of Canada I've ever seen. Bring that whole crew in. Bring them all in.

His name is Puck, apparently. What a great what a great choice. I answered mine on livestream the other day. I think it said Dormammu is his name, I think. The villain on the big crazy guy from Doctor Strange. I don't know how you make him much different than a lion. Cause he seems just like a big, insane, like, Dormammu would be awesome to see coming to the game as a 6 cost card. Makes turn 6 matter a bit more. That would be my personal pick.

If you're really stuck, I think Shuri is the correct answer. Because if you're struggling to climb, you don't want to like reach for collector's tokens for specific cards that might get nerfed like a Lyath or whatever. I think that the Shuri archetype is good old reliable. It's, it's built to withstand even things like Shang Chi with plays with armor and stuff like that. You can build around the meta that you're in. I would definitely suggest Shuri based decks.

Okay, yeah, so those were my picks. I was going to say High Evo, Shuri, and then if you really know what you're doing and you have put time into like, understanding Snap and how it plays, there may not be a better deck than Loki, because you just know how to play the card. But it has a high skill cap, so you got to be somewhat careful on that. But for the most part, yeah, Shuri is just a brain deck.

Someone asked in our chat, what is our favorite childhood video game console?

Oh, console?

Yeah, console from the childhood.

It's a tough one. It's a tough one because I'm trying to think of like what stage in life I've been Because what about you I went through the I was the nintendo to xbox and nintendo And then kind of like pc all that stuff. Were you a playstation?

Boy, never i've never owned a playstation. No what happened was when I was a kid my parents bought me a sega genesis Oh yeah. I was so hyped up, I came with Joe Montana's NFL Football 94. I can hear the, the soundtrack in my head still. And I used to, I used to play a lot of the 49ers. Cause it was Joe Montana's game, come on now. And then anyways I played a ton of it, loved it. And then then my next console was the N64. I remember playing a lot of the N64.

Oh yeah.

For like hours.

It was like half the game, yeah. I first of all, Sega, love it. That was my, I think that was like. It wasn't my first because Super Nintendo, but I had a lot of, like, Sega owned the movie mar like, I had a Garfield game, I had a Batman game that was sick. I don't even think I can say Batman in a Marvel podcast, but I'm doing it. But yeah, dude, Sega, Sonic, Sonic 3D, and then I went into N64. For me, it's a close I guess we were supposed to pick one or the other.

Yeah. I played so much in 64 and the games that were, I was really good at. Really good at was perfect. Dark and golden. I like, and I remember like being with friends and like actual, like not ironic fistfights occurring because people were looking at each other's screens. I don't look at my screen. Like it's like, and then they just like legit start throwing fists and I'm like, yo guys, like everyone needs to chill. And I'm just like popping them. Right.

Can't have Oddjob. Oddjob was like the, the, the cheap pick every time. The Josh was a flex, yeah. Dude, freaking Perfect Dark was fantastic. There was a game called the studio was Rare and they kind of disbanded, but Rare made some like freaking hits, man. Banjo Kazooie, Donkey Kong 64, these collector games. I played the hell out of those. Jet Force Gemini is a game no one's ever heard of. Was probably like, the game that got me into like, deep gaming.

Man, I played Jet Force 7, was that the one where like, Yeah, yeah, and like, there's like four characters, and they all play like, kind of differently.

There's like a dog, there's a dog, there's like a dude, it's a shooter. Against like, bugs.

I do remember the aiming reticle being a giant square, right?

Dude, you did play it. Yes. No way, people did play this, holy crap. There's people in the chat that have played this, this is fantastic. So yeah, we've derailed a little bit, but yes. Jet Force, Gemini as well as Virtual Console. What other what next question, do we ever plan on meeting in real life? That's a definite yes, dude.

Yeah, I would love to, man. I would love to. It's it hasn't how we haven't had the opportunity yet because like you flown out to place, I flown out to the different direction. Like it's just, our lives have kind of been like this wild kind of mess of movement and content, and we've never actually had an opportunity to meet in person, but I mean, I feel like I love dude, like you're legit one of my best friends, man. It's kind of crazy.

I know, just like we're doing this for the first time live, we're definitely gonna do, like, a live Snapchat together. That's ha that has to happen. Again, like, we're a year strong. Spoiler, we're not doing that for the year one, but it's it's in the pipeline, we've talked about it. Man, I gotta tell you, there's just not a subject I just don't love talking about in Marvel Snap. Let's go ahead and talk about the Black Knight.

Right now Black Knight is showcasing a 53% win rate, 5% of the metas share, and a cube rate of about 0.02 cubes. So it's, it's doing okay. But when you compare that to Alioth Alioth at a 56% win rate, 60% metas share and almost tripled the cube rate. So Elias, just straight up, I mean, it's a, it's a game winner. Black Knight's not a game. It's a game retreater. People see that the, Oh, they just got their Black Knight Infinite Discard, I'm gone, enjoy your one cube.

So, when I was looking at everything for the stats, because I pulled the stats too, right? I pulled up like the stats of cards that we know are good, and then I looked at other stats. Here's the thing, and I pulled up actually lower stats, had 47 percent win rate from 0 negative 0. 14 cube gain. Ghost Rider has a 45 percent win rate, right, with negative cube gain as well. So it's kind of, in my opinion, it's a kind of a discard. And Toxic Cards.

I think Hela's interesting because like, it's kind of messing up Black Knight in a mirror match because it, like, Black Knight won't run Silver Samurai, but the meta based Hela deck right now, like this Hela Hela Casino based deck is running Silver Samurai, you have Black Knight on the board, Samurai discards some BS card out of your hand, it's like, oh cool, I got a 4 3 Ebony Blade, this feels great, you know what I mean?

Yeah, so, here's the thing. It feels like I can get the Dedicated Discard a lot easier than I thought, right? So I've been running him in like a Lockjaw Helideck, and then I have like a dependable more base list of an Apoc, and you do the Dracula and all that stuff. Ghost Rider A, you know what it is, dude? I feel like I'm not playing the Ebony Blade all that much, is the main, like, the main cheese of it.

I don't feel like Black Knight is a great card. I think that there will be decks eventually that work well with him, but it just, my experience was like, it's just, the way you really rank up, the way you really like perform is by catching and subverting your opponent's expectations, catching them by surprise. And that's why like Hela will often do that. Like you have this losing board state and your parent, your opponent would be like, there's no way they can beat me. Right.

See you later, I guess. He feels just like Phoenix Force in the first iteration, because like with her, it was the same thing. Like, you're not running multiple man with Carnage in any other deck. And when that happens, most of the time, if you're snapping on that, a good opponent's gonna know, like, Okay, they got the cheese, they got the nut, as Snapster says. So, I do agree there. You'd be surprised on the greed of players, right? Like, that does happen.

He was a card. He's, he's okay. The one thing I will say though is that it made me play Ghost Rider. And Ghost Rider saw no play. There was a moment where like, with like, the Black Cat. Like he was like, okay, this seems interesting, play some Ghost Rider, Black Cat, whatever. But at the end of the day, it's like, this is one, another example of like, kind of like buffing by addition where you get an additional synergy. Ghost Rider itself wasn't changed and go to a 4 4 or a 4 5 or whatever.

Which is why I liked him in the hell of Lockjaw deck. Cause Ghost Rider, you can play into that. He slams the card, swaps out. You can get Ghost Rider back again. If you need to use Black Knight as a token card, fantastic. You just throw them in there. You can get out a bigger, better card. That's where he felt like he worked the best for me, but at that point, it's like, cause you're getting use out of him no matter what.

It's, it's definitely good. It's definitely like a better card than it was prior. And what I like about it too, though, and it can be frustrating, but when you have Blade in your hand, it's very dependent on what you top deck. Right. Because it always, every top deck goes to the right side. You're like, come on, top deck that Infinite. Damn it. Like, come on, let's go. But like, there's also the other side to it.

Well, let's go ahead and do it. We did it with Nico. We're gonna do it again for our live viewers, and we're gonna tell you guys that are listening the same thing. You guys can go ahead and type in exclamation point and a number. What do you rank the Black Knight yourself? 1 through 10. 10 being the best, 1 being just trash, worthless. How good is a Black Knight? Type exclamation point in a number for you guys listening. We'll keep you up to date here.

It's actually higher than I expected. Like for those that are listening, we're hovering around the four, three and a half range. Which is, which is honestly higher than I expected. I wouldn't have expected higher than three.

Yeah,

This is three out of ten though. We're doing stars, so like, we have to do the math here, right? Like, it's not quite like, the same thing. Maybe we need to adjust our, our methodology 2.

5 star. Is the easiest way to look at it, right? It's halfway. I guess that's true, Cozy. Good math, by the way. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm not a teacher, Alex. I don't educate our youth of today or tomorrow. But I got a little something under my belt. But no, dude 4 is what it's about at right now. We'll leave it up for a little bit longer. But overall, it's kind of like what we saw from October. You had Manthing that was with Toxic who, funny enough, people crapped on the card.

Nope. I found this very easy. There are some absolutely trash tier cards in Marvel snap that need to be adjusted and some that have been adjusted and there's still absolute refuse. So yeah, like if you want to talk about like horse manure cards, I'm ready for it.

Okay. So here's the deal. Every cost I went into, I was like. There is one that just stands out so obvious, and then there's one that, like, we could also throw up. So I think both of us have maybe one or two options, and I'm not gonna be shocked if they coincide the same. The later you get through the cost, Alex, though, it's interesting how there's only a couple of outliers. Did you notice that?

Yeah, like there's a few like there was very obvious ones and twos and I thought I think there's still no I think there's still some obvious ones. I don't know man. You actually had a hard time thinking later ones I I went this list. So I was like man, this card sucks. This cards garbage I was I was angry picking my cards like man, this card such crap. I'm gonna worked up thinking about it right now I actually did you have a hard time picking a five?

Come on cuz you know, I think I miss said what I was trying to Get out there. I There are all great five cost cards, and there was one really bad one. So there's like one clear outlier, which was one clear outlier Yes. In those costs. But anyway, let's let's go to the one cost. So what is the worst card in the one cost slot for you?

The obvious one is gonna be angel like, right? Like that's the obvious one. But I have another one I want to talk about. Do we agree? Angel's Probably the absolute worst.

I mean, it's. It's one or the other. I mean, I think one cost was the least sexy thing to talk about, because there's just too many. What's your other one?

My other one's a lot too. I'm so pissed off about what they, like, listen, I want to tell you something. I've been playing, no, no, Quicksilver, Quicksilver's better than Angel, okay? Quicksilver's better than Angel, because at least it has a role to play. At least Quicksilver is like, for the new player experience, at least it has a damn role. Agatha, whatever you want, Quicksilver makes sense. Also, if you want your opponent to snap on you, turn one, play Quicksilver. Uatu got changed.

I'm so upset. Coming at the Snapchat episode 52, the full subject is just all about Iwatu. I see y'all, but only the right side. I'd listen, I It's like we're comparing, like, it's like we're all at the bottom of, like There's 32 teams in the NFL. We're the bottom three teams. We're like, no, you suck. These all, these three suck. They all suck together. And they're not great. I understand. Alex, I'm wanna let you to collect yourself for a second. Anything else? Thank you. Anything else on him?

Tell it to him. He just, just show up. That vari. It's awful. It is. I had to go with that one. Is that the chee? This is, oh, just get outta here with these variances, man.

This is, I could get demoed. We just lost yeah. Half the viewers. Yeah. Want to, okay. Quick summary this again, one cost wasn't as, Tough. Two cost is interesting because when I do something like the Wheel of Snap, I'm like, alright, there's so many good two costs, and then there's like... An obvious couple bad choices or ones that don't synergize. I'm gonna kick us off because I think we have now the worst card in Snap.

That's exactly the one that I had listed first. It's just, like, Triple M, it's literally a card that makes no sense.

He's horrible. He's legit terrible. I can't imagine that this is in a car like I I I can damn well say I don't think I've ever had a YouTube video ever With him in the list, even Ronan?

I've played him in Ronan before, but I gotta tell you, I was reaching. I was reaching, I was emotional, I tried to get him in there. It just sucked. He's on my board, I have a Funko Pop of him.

Of Baron? He's definitely the worst, he's definitely the worst. What would be your second though, cause I think this is where it gets cheeky. What's your second worst?

Well, I think the second worst has to be Carnage, because like, at the end of the day, like, I'm just like, Cozy's getting work done now and Cozy's upset. No, no, it's Adam Warlock for me. Like, I went with Warlock, because like, even with like, the Guardians of the Galaxy, like season, he just felt terrible, never got played. It's just, I get his effect is strong, but he could be just a dead draw, a dead two play, like, it's just...

Now that Nico draws two cards, and like, what did we say, like, forever ago? Can we get a 2 1, Adam? That way, if you play him on a location... At least you get, like, you get that initial draw. Like, that, I feel like the data speaks for itself. I think it's clear as day, like, Adam's just not a good card at this point. And I understand they need to be careful with draw. But, to me, it, there is a close race for the second worst. Like, Colossus, but he has his uses, I guess.

You're not playing this card. That's the answer. You're just not playing this card. Why are you asking why you're playing this card? You know the answer. You're just not.

Yeah, it just seems like grass. I don't know. I feel like all I get I don't. But I can understand Cable maybe going up. Whatever. Mantis is like You made her I think she has zero purpose behind her now, but I would agree. Adam Warlock would be close behind. And then after that, it's okay. I think a lot of these are fine. You know, they, they do well. Yeah. Like they, they do though.

Like every two pretty much plays a role, except the ones we're talking about. And like, we've talked about Ronan getting reworked in the past, right? Master mold master molds. The other one that feels pretty poo poo, but that's a whole other conversation for another day.

That needs a whole rework. Listen, let's the cost as a whole and you're like, wow, 90. Six of the percent of these are great cards. These are good cards. They make a big difference. And then there's a couple you're like, how is that there? And by the way, I'm seeing it in the chat, so I'm going to address it. Quake. I think Quake is actually not the worst. She's, she's not the best. She's not the worst. I think she is just not played and there's other options.

For me, I I have two, but the obvious one for me is gonna be Morph. Morph feels like a fun card, but complete and utter unplayable garbage realistically at the end of the day. How dare you. And How dare I? What do you mean, how dare I? How dare you? What was the last time you played Morph, like, unironically?

The disrespect from Oh, I don't think I've ever played him unironically. But he is what he is in the game. I feel like he is. Just that he is the random button, and sometimes he's getting ya in a life, and the other times he's getting ya at frickin Squirrel Girl. I Morph just feels like a flavor pick that is gonna There's no way to change him. I I don't know how you change him, because to me, when I think worse, like, obviously Punisher, we both can agree. Just like, what the hell.

Yeah, Punisher's the worst. It's not even worth talking about Punisher, like, I'm so out of breath for this.

What are we doing? Like, I see a variant, the new one that came out, and I got this in cash, guys, I did not buy it. And I'm just like, legit useless. Like, I just look at it, but that's it, and we know he's bad, but maybe one day he gets better. But outside of Punisher, dude, I just think, I think Groot is just terrible, too. I don't like Groot, man.

That's a hot take saying I don't like Groot is such a weird thing to say, by the way, taking out of context It's such an awful thing. I've played Groot before, man. I've played Groot in Surfer. There's been moments where Groot's playable He is not great And he did get changed and like it kind of got was a buff as this is a ceiling was lowered and his floor was Risen one might say but yeah, Groot feels bad. He doesn't make surfer lists and he doesn't make Any lists, actually.

Doesn't Kingpin have, like, a decent... Would you, okay, let me ask you this. Kingpin or Captain America? Who would you rather have on a 12 deck?

Oh, Cap all day. Give me Cap every day.

Right, because you get something. Like, you can... Yeah. You can form something. Okay, all right. Kingpin, to me, is... Yeah, dude, he, he's, he's pretty awful. You know, my, I have a Groot stuffed animal and my wife wanted me to show it here. So, though, Kingpin at least you have the Dex at work, you know, with him, but yeah, he's pretty bad too. I don't know.

Yeah, Kingpin's awful. I think, I do have two suggestions though, both for Morph and Kingpin. For Morph, what if it targets the leftmost card like we've been seeing in like Spider Ham and stuff? Maybe it's, it's more likely to hit a six cost, an Alioth or whatever, right? A Death or a Null. That could be interesting. Okay. And then with with Kingpin, why not just on turn three or four, make it a four cost 4 4 or whatever, or 4 5, and have it change the location it's played on to Fist Tower.

I like the Fisk Tower thing. I like the Fisk Tower thing because then you get another card that's a three cost, like Storm and Magic, that can have location, because at least there's that for him.

Yeah, and it takes them off of all these like silky smooth style decks that are dominating the meta at these high win rates without nerfing any of those cards.

He's always the worst card in his deck. I think that's the problem. Like, you're always trying to do something. Like, he needs one other card that, that works with him. Like, you, you now have two things that kind of can go together as well, you know what I mean? But yeah, I like the Fisk Tower, the Fisk Tower change. They changed him once in beta too, like... Forever ago, but yes, not, not great. Forecast, dude, did you have a tougher time?

Yeah, forecast, I had a tougher time. I definitely had a tougher time with forecast, but I do have one that I want to talk about with a suggested change and that's, it might not even be the worst, but I'm going to say Jessica Jones. I want to talk about Jessica Jones for a sec, cause JJ breaks my heart. JJ's not the worst, but it feels like completely unplayable, right? But what I want to say is this, what if we had this cozy?

I'm gonna be, I like j i, I like Jessica Jones as a card. Like I think that I get it. She works in the niches. She works in, right? Like, you know, player after storm, you get the, the, there's easier ways to get four eight, I think. Not playing there is not that big of a deal, but it does limit her design a bit more.

Yeah, I could feel that. But for me, it's like the card that feels the worst right now is Jessica Jones. Like, it's just like, I feel the worst for Jessica Jones. Because I love the card, I love the flavor, I love the character, and this card is just being done dirty.

Well four costs for me, dude. Obviously, we could both say strong guy. He's, he's literally like the strongest guy in the game. Like, he's just terrible. When we were doing the live stream the other day, I brought up my first video and he's a two cost in there. I'm like, that's awesome. Like, I miss the two costs, you know, strong guy guy days. And I think that's how you kind of make them a bit better. Outside of him, do these cards have to exist for early game? Like, I get it.

Warpath was part of, like, the package that got Destroyer nerfed. If you think about that. Remember that? Destroyer, when it was one extra power, apparently one power nerfed from Destroyer killed the card. But Warpath was part of the ongoing Destroyer list with Spectrum, right? And it was good there, but when that deck died, like, this deck just, this card has no place anywhere else, right? There's nowhere else to go completely.

So yeah, Warpath, Namor, there's a, it's funny, because the four cost, there's the ones you absolutely run, even frickin Crossbones is making his way in Atuma has his deck he works in, Sentry has... His deck, 20. 99. Glenn Jones still has this secret about this card that it's good, and I... Glenn, dude, I don't know. Glenn, I don't know what you're, what deck it is, but we'll have to see, but, other than that, yeah, I mean, like, there's cards like Omega, ones that we wanted boost up a bit.

Yeah, to me, I mean, it's Ronin, right? There's no other option other than Ronin, correct?

If you look at all the 5 cost cards, there's honestly only two cards that suck. The rest are playable, in my opinion.

Yeah, yeah, I don't for the record, I think Kang is still not great for Marvel Snap, and still not a great card, and maybe playable in a competitive circumstance, but for the average player on ladder, it's terrible. I mean, for me, it's Ronin. Like, it just doesn't... It just does not compete at all with Devil Dinosaur. It doesn't feel playable. There's these dump and bounce decks everywhere. Everyone's able to dump their hands. This card sucks. It's horrible.

They, this, it just needs a redesign in general. It just needs some type of redesign. I think if you look at all the 5 cost cards, he doesn't even have good variants too, dude. I mean, like, I mean, they're okay. They're fine. I brought up hips, but Ronin is so awkwardly placed, if you look at any of these. Like, all of these. Offer something to the decks that they're in, right? Taskmaster, White Tiger, Blue Marvel, White Tiger got a buff! Before Ronan did. Color me surprised, right?

I can't believe Black Bolt took a string. I went, went down to 5 7. And Black Bolt got nerfed as Stature got nerfed too. They got nerfed in the same time, which kind of blew my mind. I can see Stature remaining nerfed and Black Bolt coming back to a 5 8. I agree. But still, like, that shell's not that bad. That's still running like a 56, 57 percent win rate. Like, the Black Bolt stature decks still don't do that bad. They're just not popular.

Yeah, but there's just not... What's so crazy, if you look at 5 cost though, as we go through legit all of them, there is not bad... There's not a bad card here, outside of Ronin being the top of the list. Kang in there as well, but I think Black Bolt could stand too. So, interesting that that's where we ended up in. Six cars. I think this was the most interesting to me.

It was for me too, because like, I actually think that these are pretty balanced and some of them aren't as exciting as I'd like, but there are two in my mind that stand out as being kind of more stinky than the rest. And would I venture to say that Helicarrier might have made your list cozy?

Yeah. So Helicarrier was like, there are ones that are bad in the meta right now, right? Like She Hulk is like, damn, like it's hard to fit her in with Mobius and you've got cars that maybe Spectrum could get a little sexier. Like, Hela Carrier is one of those cards, man, that like, what the hell? Like, what are we doing? Hela's the best she's ever been, and this card still would never want to see light ever in there.

I don't know. I tried to make a helicarrier devil dinosaur discard deck once, and it performed just like you think it would.

It sounds like it. That's a home cooked meal for sure. I, do you, do you add more cards? Do you make them four or five, six costs? Do you like, what do you do?

I mean, I don't even know. I think you just tore something from the game.

This card's been out literally for almost a year. And I think this is obviously the worst worst six cost cards. If we can both agree, Dexter's the only one that plays it. Yeah, and at this point, I'm not even convinced, there's just not a bit of, you know, he's gotta stick to the love of the Helicarrier. No matter how bad it is, right? Like, I would do the same for Aero. I get it, I get the love. Although, you know, Aero, Helicarrier, no contest. Do you have another Six Gust you would throw up?

I have one more, but I'm wondering if you pick the same one, because for me, it has to be Giganto, right? That feels awkward as hell. Like, the other ones all have roles to play, and Giganto makes itself in a couple decks, but you never play Giganto as Giganto. Even though I think if you go back to, like, the first five episodes of the Snapchat, I'm pretty sure I was like, GIGANTO SURPRISE CARD! LET'S GO! Right? And then realistically, it's like, this card is complete trash.

He Yeah, dude, I like, even when I try to convince myself, like, Oh, I can make a deck that's designed to win the left lane. Like, you don't know what the hell is going to happen. If they proc X, it's like, you're done. Like, you know, there's no meta that he will exist. But I get why he exists. It's for the Tribunal Hela Madness decks. And that's kind of it. That's kind of it. I don't know if he'll ever change, but I do agree. He's kind of towards towards the bottom there.

Yeah, probably like 10 cards are absolute garbage. Maybe 15 cards are garbage, yeah, and Like, I still would like to see, like, for instance, I checked, called out Quake. I still think Quake should, like, have a reliable effect, where you know, like, this right location goes left, and this left one goes mid. And then that, so like, you're able to, like, you know, predictively move it around, but that would already be a huge buff. But, you know, I can't ask for too much.

So the worst card, I'm gonna ask Chat this, but I also want to talk to you. Worst card in Snap right now. It's the worst. Like, this is it. What is it?

That's Agatha, if you've got to take it all together, but... Come on. In terms of win rate, it has to be Agatha,

right? Nah, nah, just in like, pure ability, and purposeful in the game.

Carnage. Kozy's in Soul Epsite, he doesn't know how to respond.

Elephants suck. Elephants it's the elephant tank all over. Is it?

It's, it, it has to be Punisher, right Kozy?

People are saying Angel. I'm seeing a lot of Angel, I'm seeing a lot of strong guy... Baron yeah, I'm trying to think who I would play as no shot in my deck, it's probably, it's probably Baron, or Angel.

Baron's probably, you're right, with the triple M, Baron's probably completely unplayable, like, there's, if you, if you put that in your deck... You are legitimately just trying to feed cubes. Like, it has to have a negative cube rate at this point. No one's even playing it. What are we talking about?

There's a day, like, yeah, there's a day that I'll be crazy and be like, I'm gonna make strong guy work today, you know? And it's happened before, but like, there's no day where I'm like, Baron is it. This is how I'm gonna this is my next thumbnail. As Baron Mordhau. Can you imagine? That's gonna be Nick's April Fool's video.

Maybe that's why I saw the Baron Funko Pop at the dollar store for clearance.

Yeah, I can't see that one. It's flying off the shelves. Mom, I want, forget Captain America and Tony, I want Baron Mordo. My favorite Doctor Strange appearance character and then kind of walks away. Anyway well those are the two subjects over on your side and that means we have ourselves the Snapchat mailbag. Now, Alex, we've kind of talked about bringing a mailbag to the Snapchat.

For me, it's Jeff the Shark. Jeff the Baby Landshark for me is my favorite card. It can be in any deck. It performs wonderfully. It just plays well. It's been by far my favorite purchase since the launch of the card itself.

I think the fun was I love Deadpool a lot, but I gotta say Thanos might take it. I think I just like as a character, as a card, I love Thanos, love building around him. So I think he's probably an easy answer for me. Loki was close and then he became a problem, right? So that would be mine. Alex, do you have a question you want to pull out here? We're getting a good amount of them. Yeah,

what would you guys believe could be added to collectors reserves to make them better?

Okay, yeah I, at the beginning of the show I said I think if they brought in emotes, if they brought in new card borders or ways of like cosmetics in that way I think the return of gold should happen in some degree. Like, allow there to be, there's nothing better than for free to play to be able to slowly accumulate you know, get resources to be able to get, Something over time. And I think we do need to see more gold, you know, kind of back into those. What about you?

Yeah, I, I agree. The the lack of gold in collector's reserves feels weird, especially since it's still in like the 50 plus season pass rewards, like getting 50 gold from the season passwords, like why wouldn't this be in the collector's track? Like that doesn't make sense. Right. They of course have added the weekend missions, what they've improved greatly too. But for me, I think it's just. It's just everything around it.

Okay, I like it. Another great question. This one was interesting, and I'm gonna add to the question. Essentially, they're talking about datamines, and how we already know what's coming out in December. Do you think it would be better to go into a month and have no idea what's coming out that month? Like, we datamines don't, we don't, they have a way to patch, they've talked about doing this too.

There's like a double sided sword to this. First I'll say is that I think that the data leaks and the data minds are necessary based on the system works right now, planning. Like we don't get enough resources to be able to spend our tokens on a whim. So I think it's intelligent to actually look ahead in the future to figure out what's a value and what's not what you should be saving for and what you shouldn't, however. Second Dinner's not saying anything.

Yep, 100 percent agree. I think it's Man, it's interesting because they're close to communication. They do a good job in some efforts. And there's some, like, you know, I love that they're doing The creator video once it, like, comes up, I think, after it or whatever. I haven't had one up there yet, though. But I think that that aspect is really cool. But you're right! They kind of lean on They can definitely create a bit more excitement if, like, Those what are those?

Miss Marvel thumbs up's the best way to finish a game.

You toxic SOB. Just drop in the chat now. That's a tough one, right? Like, what is your favorite way to finish off a game? Like, most cheeky way?

Yeah, I mean the most cheeky way is like, Orca. Like, honestly, Orca. Cause that feels just as good as Galactus without the toxicity. Dropping an Orca in a lane where they're up by like, 14. It's just so funny to me, man.

Okay, I like it. I love Orca. I think anything with like, yeah Surprise lane disruption, like Magneto's really fun. Juggernaut, those kind of cards. Arrow, all those are not so.

Do you or Cozy have a variant type for a card that you really want to see? For example, a Marvel zombie for a card, or an artist rendition of a card you like? Ooh,

Can I tell you the truth? I honestly, because I think the MCU is so important to Marvel, that the actor's rights, I don't even have to, I don't know what that looks like, but we've gotten a couple MCU variants, and I think it'd be... Awesome to see a Ryan Reynolds Deadpool or like a Tony Stark in the, in the likeness of Robert Downey Jr, which the Halloween one is very close. You know what I mean? Like an official MCU variant. That would probably be my answer.

Yeah. I mean, more of the signed ones, like we have with the Nick Fury, Samuel L. Jacks, how like unbelievable would that be like, Oh man, that card just does not see play, but like that signed autograph style card with an MCU variant would be. Absolutely chef's kiss. That's what a myth a mythic variant should be. That's what a mythic variant is, in my opinion. Right there.

Absolutely. Yeah. Underrated Marvel Snap creator. What's a creator you want to shout out right now that you've seen their stuff? I don't get a lot of time to watch cause I'm dying. But what's a creator? I got one for you, but what do you got?

Yeah, for me, I think, I think Drew Barry does a lot of good work. That's what I was going to say, man. I thought Drew Barry. Yeah. I think Drew Barry does some good work. I'd like to see Drew Barry get some love and Chat Chat, I think, is a big fan of Drew Barry as well. There's so many amazing creators. I mean like. From the streaming side, I see like like ordinary Harry does fantastic streams. Eggs is really engaging. There's it's like, there's so many different creators, right?

Absolutely, man. But yeah, I was gonna, Drew Barry's the one that stood out to me for sure, that I think is doing great stuff. But other than Snap, Alex, what are some hobbies? That you're interested in besides going to Costco.

Right. You just took my only hobby. You just answered my own question. That's all I do. I just, I basically make content, get stressed out, walk around Costco for a bit, buy beef jerky, come home. That's, that's like literally what I do. Right. And one of my things that I really like to do, and this is something a lot of people won't know. I'm actually a writer.

I as far as a hobby I like, I love picking up new things, and learning it, and mastering it, and moving to something. I would say surfing is huge for me. I think it's like a great way to reset, really, you know, just to co I remember the first time I told you I surfed. You like I was saying that for like a couple weeks and then one day we're on a call and you're like wait You're actually going out there and surfing the wave. I'm like, yeah, dude. There's something so peaceful about that.

It would have to be Archer, it has to be Archer for me, I'm sorry, like, Archer is probably my favorite there's just, every single variant is absolutely beautiful Kim is also very good. I don't know how to say their last name. Is it Jacin?

Jacin. Jacinto. And I'm Jacinto.

Is that it? Yeah, Kim. Kim Jacinto is obviously fantastic as well. The kitty pride, like I, I care less about Nico next week. I want that kitty pride cover. Our variance much. That's like what I'm rolling for. Okay. But if for me the actual answer are germ, I can't get enough of archer's variance.

What do you think is the most liked artists? Like if, if like, they were pulled on it. If the people were pulled. 'cause for me, like I love Max Greg, I think everything that Max Greg does is really well done. I just like his style. It just kind of vibes with my style. Ryan also does all of her work. It's incredible, the watercolour that she does is very well done too. So I would say them, but I, yeah, probably Art Jerm is what most people would say. Maybe Dan Hipp.

I, you know what, I think Dan Hipp could win the popularity vote. Just because Dan Hipp's producing so much that's actually so good. There's a couple whiffs in there, like the Silver Surfer maybe not the best, but like my favorite HIP is like the Beast for instance, the Beast is so good, the Carnage and Venom are so good, they actually kind of like look really good together.

He definitely was like in person just Exactly what you expect, and like, I don't know, he was great. He was a very lovely person, and he's big. Alex, do we, we have, if you had one superpower... What would you like it to be, and why?

I would like to fly. I think flying would be fun. But if I had to go a little further than that, Do you know like on Dragon Ball Z, Do you remember Instant Teleportation by Goku? Where you just go like this, and he just like teleports somewhere? Then he'd be like, I'm going to Mars! And he just goes to Mars. That seems pretty awesome.

That seems pretty OP, and like, you're USELESS if like, Thanos comes. Like, what, what do you do? You're like, I can get the hell out of here. That's it. That's I can peace out is exactly what I can do. I can peace out to Costco anytime I want to. You, let's face it, dude. You could go to like, friggin like, Thailand, but you'd be like, boom. Costco, pizza aisle. Boom. Eh, you wouldn't use it. Right? I feel like, maybe. I don't know what mine would be. Probably that. That sounds pretty cool.

Oh, come on, you can't just steal mine now.

This has got to be something you like. the one you have to say. I would say super speed is probably the one I would go with. I don't know, Professor X has pretty badass powers too. You know, mind reading and telekinesis and all that stuff, that's kind of cool. That'd probably be mine. I would say visibility and then people are like, why? That seems fun though.

So, what archetype would you like to see added to the game? So, is there an archetype from other card games that you would like to see added to Marvel Snap?

Man, that's tough. Yeah, I feel like they've done pretty well with it. I would say I think it'd be cool to add, like, a session, like, Captain America and his shield. I think we've talked about this before, like, that aspect to me is really cool. There's a lot of iconic items and weapons and things within Marvel, and to be able to power up a card and bring a buff to a card without directly bringing it sounds very interesting on how Snap works as a whole.

I think we've talked about in the past about how like, there's no like tribe bonuses, the idea of like, you know, like in Hearthstone, you can get like buff a card for as many murlocs as you have on the board or stuff like that. So you could have like an Avenger archetype or tribe where it's like, you get each Avenger gets plus one for each Avenger you have on the field or whatever, or, you know, I think that could be interesting, but maybe that's a whole separate game mode.

Alex, how do we go about homebrewing decks, right? So when you're doing a deck how do you go about brewing it up, making one? That's a great question chat there. And we're going to continue to look for questions as you guys ask them, but yeah, that's a good question. How do you do that?

I mean, for me, it usually starts with like the card, the linchpin card. What is the card? What is the closer? What is the winning line? That's usually where I start. It's called like backwards design, start with the victory condition, then build towards it. And so like, that's how I approach it. Right? Like if I say, if I stick to myself, okay, like Ebony Blade, for instance, and the Black Knight, I want to make Ebony Blade. Completely impossible to deal with for my opponent.

Yeah, mine's all Synergy designed, right? So, yeah, like. Snap has a lot of packages, like it was all, it was funny that I, you look at things and you're like, well, this was a this was a move deck, and it's like, no, it's not a move deck anymore, it has Angela, Nightcrawler, that's, right now that's just a package, it's a great way to start something, so you, you can look at your packages.

If you were a card in Snap, Cozy, what artist would you want to draw you?

Ooh, ooh, I don't know who would That's a great question, whoever asked that. 'cause I'm like, I like Max Gr, but I don't know if I want his style and I don't want art germ. I don't need like, I don't need like a

Yeah, no. Art germ can't cover this. Like this is like, it's just basically just, he's gonna draw mu like muffin man.

I need, yeah, I need, if he wants to add like a 20 pack to me honestly, dude, I think Dan Hip would be sweet, or Ryan Gonzalez actually probably lines up with my style. The mo I like bright, vibrant, crept. And I think that that, like, stuff that pops, and all of her stuff pops, like the Gambit, the Rogue, yeah, probably her.

I lean towards Dan Hip. I think Dan Hip could could make me look good. I mean, that's probably the best I'll ever look, honestly. I think I agree with the Archer Archer, no, no, no, no, thank you, that's not gonna work for me. You know, but if I had to, if I had to lay on a coach and get drawn, like, you know, like, like, you know, Titanic style there, I'd go with the Dan Hip, probably, yeah, yeah.

That'd be quite the Hip Baron, I'd... Laid over Alex I like it. Someone asked this too real quick. What is our, oh dude, this is a great question. Our turnaround time on testing a deck, right? Deck creation, and then finally, like, Filming and then publishing to YouTube.

Oh man. That's so hard to say. I have a deck that I've been working on for like three weeks. I've not really shown anyone to release. Cause I'm not sure if it's good yet and I'm still refining it and stuff like that in my spare time. Otherwise like if it's, if it's something that I know is like quickly emerging in the meta and I know it's slapping and like the data does support that the deck is good, that I'm more willing to release it earlier.

Yeah, I would say for me, it depends on what the accomplishment is. Like, if my goal is to test the deck in the first 24 hours, like a new card, it's 24 hours, right? Typically, I'm not the first creator to get something out. I like to get things out in the morning. That way, I have like the whole time to really get it through. And then if it sucks, I just don't even do it. And then with other guides, it just depends. Usually, I've won. A ton with a deck before.

I think that pretty much brings us to our close cozy.

Yeah. Awesome stuff. Well, guys this was definitely a treat, a lot of fun, we talked about a wealth of subjects, another great Monday. Next week is officially episode fifty... two? One year? Of the Snapchat, we have a special guest coming on, so excited about that as well, man, and looking forward to you, too. Guys, thank you so much for coming to this first live edition of the Snapchat. And as always, guys, happy snapping.