What's going on, guys, and welcome back. Get ready for a toxic week in Marvel Snap as Man Thing arrives to the game. We're gonna talk about where he fits into Marvel Snap, the best decks, combos, and everything around the archetype. Now, with that, we're also gonna talk about the top 10 toxic and disrupt cards in Marvel Snap. Which ones truly make a difference? Lastly, guys, we're gonna finish on our buff and nerf wishlist.
We had a pretty dry content patch, but we have an OTA Thursday, and we're gonna talk about which cards need some love. Which other ones need to be tamed down a bit? We're gonna talk about that all today and more on this episode of the Snapchat. And as always, I'm joined by Mr. Alex Kocha. Hello, Alex. Happy continuation of Spooky Season. We are now a week past Elsa coming to the game. How we doing?
I'm doing great, Cozy. I mean, this has been a wild week in Marvel Snap. I've been loving the weekend missions. They've been completely changed, eh? They're much more accessible. We're getting some rewards. But Cozy, I have a problem. I gotta take it up with ya. I'm trying to do my Elsa Bloodstone weekend missions, trying to play my Nightcrawler, zooing out with my Blood Flood deck, and then all of a sudden, I got Sandman everywhere! I'm like, why is Sandman all over the place?
And then sure enough, I go to my favorite YouTube channel, CozySnap, and I see it. How dare you reintroduce Sandman into the meta?
Dude, every, when I do like a Galactus deck or Sandman, like I do, I feel like I've joined the dark side. I feel. I feel bad, like I click publish and it, it's not a good, it's not a good feeling to be had, but it's to be fair, my gosh, does it work against Elsa? Yeah, I know, I haven't played it since, I just, I got it out there, I did the deed, some of the comments were not exactly, not exactly happy, but yeah, man, with the Doom buff again too, and with Mobius.
Sandman, Sandman is Sandman and he's in a pretty good spot. But yeah. With that, that's a Toxic deck. We have a Toxic Weakman. We obviously have Manthing coming out and we broke him down a lot last week. Excited to continue that and also talk about, like, the archetype in general. I think a lot of people, this might be their first or, like, serious attempt into playing kind of the Disrupt Toxic archetype. So excited to break that down with you.
But Elsa, I know we're going to talk about it on your channel. We'll get to your subjects. Initial thoughts on the card and the new season pass.
I like her. I like her. I like the fact that it's bringing back all new archetypes, like, you know, zoos back. It's, it's been a card. That's like Loki was a Loki car. Like Loki created its own archetype. Right? And when you're playing a Loki deck, you're playing a Loki deck. I felt like Elsa is being splashed into so many different things. Silky smooth. Flood, Shuri. It's like been an add on to so many things and for that reason I've really liked it.
She, she is she's made a lot of decks better. She's obvious when like she's getting out of control. Like, you know, when you see that Kitty Pryde get like the third buff, you're like, I'm out. Like there's, it's obvious when she's getting a bit too much. I think she's a counter a bull and altogether a good addition. But I know we'll talk about that more. Definitely. Definitely did what we both thought.
I think we were pretty accurate in our discussions last week on how we thought Elsa was going to be. And with that, like, what are we breaking down on your side of the channel, Alex?
On my side of the channel, we're going to be discussing Elsa Bloodstone and kind of its impact on the meta thus far. First impressions of its decks and its gameplay. We're also gonna be talking about the top 10 win rate cards in Marvel Snap. We're gonna be giving our impressions on what the most winningest cards in Marvel Snap are. And then finally, our favorite cards in October thus far.
It's only been a week, but the meta has shifted significantly, and I'm interested in hearing cozy from you what your favorite cards at every cost are so far this season.
Yeah, I mean, listen we are gonna talk about it on the third subject, but the O T A and the content patch, I think together were, it was a, a disappointment to be said. Luckily, Elsa brought a lot with her, and so I think that definitely helped save what was gonna be a continuation of what we saw in September. Now, to start off the season, Alex what deck are you playing the most right now? If you just say like a couple.
I mean Blood Flood, like the Elsa Bloodstone Flood deck, and I've been really enjoying it. That's been a ton of fun. Loki feels like it's not quite as good that it used to be. I'm working on a new, completely new brew with Nimrod that I'm excited to be showing soon. But ultimately, I think that my last week has been primarily with with Elsa Bloodstone. But I will say special shout out to to WSnap, who came up with a fantastic Guardians base list, which I've been thoroughly enjoying.
As soon as I saw Drax, I'm like, I gotta play this. This is like a locked down Drax base list that also runs a life as a closer. Fantastic list. And I've been having a lot of fun with it.
What's better than one else to dude is to like, no questions. I've been doing a lot of double up decks, which have been fun and it kind of restored a different play style that I, that I love and that I definitely think has a place in snap. I think I have a guide coming out on that and then toxic, man. I've been doing a lot of toxic. I think right now where the meta is at with Elsa not just saying man, but the, you know, the traditional.
Disrupt decks with the, with the green goblins is what I've been all into. So I'm excited to bestow some of what I've learned because it's probably the archetype that I've learned over the course of a week or two, the most from, that I thought I knew everything, but there's little kind of tricks and things that you can do to get better at predicting and playing and disrupting your opponent. So, let's start out with Man Thing, he comes out.
Now, not tonight, which this will be the first time since we've been recording this. He comes out, what will be Tuesday, and that'll be noon PST. You can calculate that time in, in your time zone. I think it's 3 PM your time, Alex. Man Thing is a 4 cost, 5 power card with an ongoing effect. 1, 2, and 3 cost cards have negative 2 power on that location. What do you think of Man Thing initial impressions?
Initial impressions is that he seems like he'd be very strong. I mean, when you consider negative two power across the board, and especially what the meta is right now it kind of, I think it's going to be pretty solid. Like so last month, the Loki season, we had Loki, and then we had the triple M coming on the last week of the season.
Man thing to some degree, it feels like the Mobius to the Loki, whereas like Elsa bloodstone, obviously bringing back zoo based strategies, filling locations and man thing says, well, if you're going to do that, I'm going to punish you. Right? So you're gonna have to tech for that now. And so I like the counterbalance is happening here. I think that the fact that it's coming out next week. If Elsa's too hot, man, things should take a little bit off and I actually like the card.
I think that it's going to be pretty impactful.
Yeah. So I think a couple, I mean, a couple of things about it, my initial thoughts and let's, you know, we're going to talk about what we usually do, the synergies, the decks that where we see him fitting in because of how good shadow Kings at the moment. That's already had a lot of Luke Cage slot into some decks. So obviously we have a card that has a direct counter to the fullest degree, in a sense. But I do think there are some tricky things that you can do with the card in general.
But on top of that... It might be one of the worst I like to call them, like, premiere weeks, right? When the card comes out, you just have, like, a slew of decks playing them. And this one has one simple answer, right? And Luke Cage is one of those compliment cards. So he's not really changing up how your deck works altogether. So he could have, like, a rough showcase, if that makes sense. But, you know, both the Toxic archetype in the months ahead and Loot Cage aren't really going anywhere.
But you're still forcing them to play down the card. So in general, Manthing, I think he plays excellent on Curve. That's where I want to start with Toxic. There are four cost cards that can fit into the Toxic archetype, like Century. But Alex3, it's, it's kind of a weird you know, turn turn 4, cause you're gonna have a lot to do on turn 5, where I think right away ManThing gives you a nice curve play. I think Ted here, ManThing, is gonna be a really unique card to play on turn 6.
Right, so a lot of us are thinking turn 4 turn 5, but I like the idea of dropping him once you've seen where everything is at. And at that point, you're not giving away, right, you're not, the Luke Cage isn't a response because at that point, you just play Man Thing, they didn't even know that you had it right? Doesn't that seem like a decent way to play him?
In ladder, yeah, I can definitely see that, like, if you're looking at the surprise factor of Man Thing, then 100%, I can definitely see that working. Conquest might be trickier, you can only hit him once with it, right, so you're gonna wanna get him for 4 or 8 cubes, but from a ladder perspective, yeah, for cost, like, there's definitely some potential to take people by surprise. And if they have Luke Cage, then you just dodge that element of your game plan, right?
And you just don't play it on turn six. You play your, whatever your backup, your Magneto or whatever it is that you're going to have in your deck. So yeah, no, I do like that call out. One thing I will say though is I was thinking about this and I was like trying to like pen and paper a bunch of stuff with Manthing. I love doing this. And by the way, when I say pen and paper, I literally mean I have a post it note that I write like cards on and try to do synergies with.
It's the way my mind works. I don't know. With Manthing, I kind of realized a couple things that no one's talking about. And it goes to show you how impactful the last month of Marvel Snap was. This is a four cost card that shouldn't rack with Zabu, but a 32 percent prevalence and meta share of Triple M has effectively taken Zabu out of people's minds, which is pretty wild. This is a card that should be working with Zabu, but the meta share of Triple M is so high.
That I don't think people are considering it in that style deck, which is interesting because Zabu should work with Sentry. It does. It works with Man Thing. Now you have, now you're starting to see this new list coming up, but then triple M, 33 percent meta share. It's crazy.
Yeah, so this is my initial thought. First of all, isn't it funny? Like a 4 cost card used to come out and it was just like, The first thing you thought about was Zabu and the heck, this guy's got the potential to be a 413, which I think clearly is insane. Definitely one of the more underrated cards to come out. When it comes to Zabu, you also have to think about this, and players need to think about this. Mobius is a two cost, Luke Cage is a two cost. You can't put every card in your deck.
There are definitely decks that play both of those cards. But you're causing them to use too energy for these tech cards twice. So you maybe can get one or the other off if you Zabu, or if you want to try to get what man, you know man thing is gonna be known for. But a 3 5 at that, if you play with Zabu, if even if they have the Luke K. John, I mean, at least it's not like the worst, you know, play line. It's intact with like, Balor, Spider Man, you have other turns to do some things.
There isn't a ton of four cost cards at the moment that you would want inside of a toxic deck. But definitely, I think there will be some Zabu Flood with, like, Hazmat, maybe Wong, stuff going on. That's where I would see the Zabu interaction the most, Alex. But yeah, this guy, he's gonna be so interesting because of the retroactive effect of hurting your own side. So, without question, when we talk about synergy cards, which, there's a lot of them, Luke Cage is going to be the synergy card.
Cause you kind of have to have them in there.
Yeah, you have to have them in there. And if you don't, then I mean, is there creative ways to use the negative energy and, and man things case, like not really, like it's, I was trying to come up with that, like, Hey, how do we use this? Right? Like. But you can't when it's negative on your side. Yeah, you're giving initiative, but it's not like the Kitty pride effect where you eventually put that power back on. Like it's just straight up negative power. Right.
And you can't like, it's not like a void where you kick it over with Viper. You ain't kicking man over egg. It doesn't make a damn difference. So. From that perspective, you are right. It's funny because you have to tech the card Luke Cage into your own deck, while also having to be wary of them having it as well, which is funny because from a tech perspective, say running like if you're running something like Rogue, do you really need two Luke Cage effects?
But you can't afford to not run Luke Cage yourself. So it puts Man Thing in this precarious position. The other option is Enchantress, but if you don't fill the location, Luke Cage players will just play the Luke Cage and the Man Thing location, which swipes them both out. So it's like, from a tech side of things, Man Thing has a very complex... Like just complex situation. I don't know how else to say it. And I like that though. I like when cards have macro elements, micro elements.
I love when they're more complex than just the text. I think man thing is a good example of that.
The way that toxic plays is you have a first couple of turns to push on one negative lane, the green goblin, the hood with the Viper, the century with the Viper. That's a win lane altogether. And then you have one other lane you need to win. Now, typically, this works by having a Doc Ock out there pulling and forcing their hand and then doing something to respond to that Doc Ock. Or, you just have pure power with like a sentry play and get the 10 power on there, or whatever that might be.
And I think Man Thing is really meant for that other lane, or he's meant simply paired up with something like Green Goblin, right? You just play the Green Goblin, you have the Man Thing, all of a sudden the point swing is gonna be so out of control and very tough for them to manage. And there's other cards that we can combo with that. When it comes to Man Thing, what I think he's going to be really good against, Sera decks are going to have a hard time, obviously but not quite Bounce, right?
Because his, he's not inflicting this negative, he's just having this like, ever presence, right? So if you put him down on 4, by that time, they can just respond with the Bounce and get the hell out of that lane, right? And then, you kind of have somewhat of a dead ish... Lane after that, right?
So I don't see him really impacting bounce all that much as much as he would let's say Sarah You know Elsa deck sure and then what we talked about last week, which I think Brood kind of decks are gonna suffer massively with him as well.
Yeah, like yeah, he attacks brood. He attacks Ultron He attacks anything that likes to zoo right in those situations. The best thing for man thing is to be put in the Angela location, which is likely to be zooed in but again Kitty pride can dodge it, right? But there's likely to be three or four cards in that location because you're probably comboing the Bloodstone with the Angela, etc. Right? So, again, this card has immense macro kind of considerations. And I like that.
I like when cards come out compliant.
Yeah, so, okay first question before we go into Synergy cards. Will you run an Enchantress or Rogue? In your man thing deck and the reason I say rogue obviously is you're just stealing the loop cage at that point, right?
You're not even trying to which kind of works as two birds with one stone You need the loop cage anyway, and so you're kind of fishing it out there problem is these days I feel like luke just played later than two and then he's kind of pulled it played at the end I have this kind of mass, flip surprise with shadow king.
I think it's rogue, not enchantress. And specifically for ladder. I think it's always rogue because you're conserving, it's just cheaper, right? If they play their loot cage on two, which is not unlikely in a ladder situation. If they're holding that as a two drop and they don't know what you're playing, they might just get it out for the value because they're just going to get it out. And the result of that is if you, if you happen to draw your loot cage, you don't even have to play it.
You don't have to commit that energy. That's two energy, two power you don't have to put on the board. You steal their their effect and then now you're ready to go. So I think that it's Rogue that's probably the winner if you're looking for a specific tech piece. That's a whole other conversation. I've actually been really liking Rogue in general. I've been playing a lot of Rogue lately. And so I think that Rogue's the winner.
Yeah, so I want to, let's go and talk then about cards with Manthing, the synergy that we see. And again, I'm probably all in on Toxic because here's the most important thing to remember with the card. When we say this a lot, the cards gonna get better over time. Truly though, we have some months cards ahead. We have a huge one, a massive, probably the best thing to happen that's gonna solidify the glue and Annihilus coming out into the game.
Annihilus is gonna be absolutely massive for the Toxic Archetype and then in December we have I think Selene. So those two cards together alone We're going to bring a lot of heat. So, you know, the great thing is not a good spotlight week. I think we can both agree on this. I think we've both rated this a skip week, but he's 3, 000 tokens. So guys, you can either get him as a series four card. You can wait. He's in a December spotlight as well.
This is for sure a token shop by, in my opinion, over opening him. And if you play the play style, I think it's an easy buy. If you don't, it's an easy skip. Just depends.
Yeah, it's actually, it could not be clearer than that. Like this is a card that I don't want to see as a one trick pony, but this is a toxic card, right? That's, that's what this card does. If you don't play that archetype, if you don't want to play that archetype, which I don't know how, like the last toxic evil deck you released was absolutely insane. I absolutely loved it. If you don't want to play, you just don't, don't spend those 3, 000 tokens. It's that simple.
It's not gonna, it's not gonna be like what Elsa Bloodstone did, where it's everywhere. It's just, it's gonna have its place and it's gonna do its job. But yeah, the 3, 000 tokens component, especially considering how bad the spotlight cash is, yeah, a hundred percent.
Well, I want to transition with that and talk these synergy cards and I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw one at you. After Green Goblin, that I think not a lot of people are putting together, it's a card I've been playing more especially not especially, like clearly just this season. Green Goblin though, let's start here. I think this is going to be one of the most natural cards that work with it.
We're going to be ranking our top ten, we don't know each other's, but Green Goblin is bound to be on that list for both of us. He was something that fell off in August because of destroy season, and now he's kind of creeping back in as a really good card. And I dare say, Alex, one of the most skillful cards to use in the game. Mainly because of prediction, and what you can combine with Green Goblin as a whole.
So, one cheeky thing that I don't think people know, this is one of the things I opened up with, that you learn more over time. You can Ghost Spider Green Goblin. Even though it's on the opponent's side. So you can play Green Goblin in a lane that you think is for sure safe. And then on the very next play, you can Viper, Green Goblin, or you would actually then do the Ghost Spider, then the Viper play, and yeah, you risk putting the Ghost Spider on their side.
Either way though, you're pushing two cards over to that lane. Instantaneously, and that just throws off what, you know, they assumed was going to happen the next turn. So, there's a lot of cheeky things with Titania, we know back in the day that you can do with Green Goblin. So he's, he's kind of, you know, deceptively very skillful of a card.
Yeah. And if you're worried about power, like you can play him into an Angela. Like that's something that I don't see often. If you play him into an Angela, Angela will get the buff and then the green goblin is going to go over. Right. So you kind of double dip a little bit there. I love the inclusion of of ghost spider because that, that Dodge is one of Green Goblin's biggest weaknesses is the ability for destroy decks to just, well, I'm just going to carnage this, right?
Like, you know, I'm just going to play death lock or whatever. When you move it, you just disrupt their plan. And all of a sudden, right? It's like, well, it's still there. What are you going to do? You don't want to venom it now, right? And when you get to those later turns, like venom is not necessarily a good answer to it. So I do like that a lot. Green Goblin, eh?
Like, yeah, it's, it's gonna make a lot of sense, especially when you start considering, like, Green Goblin's gonna take up space. You're likely to see you know, other cards occupying space on the board in the Disruption and Toxic style lists. So, yeah, it could be annoying to deal with Green Goblin, for sure.
Alright, so you ready for this one? This is a card that I've been playing a lot with Elsa lists, kind of, but more so just in the, in the meta at the moment. Buddy, I never thought too. And you could call it a reach, but I think right now is the time. If you go, if you're going to want to play her lady desk strike and man thing almost seemed like they were meant for one another, right? You're pushing negative two on that opponent's side, which drastically changes.
The the landscape of what Lady Deathstrike can do, and all of a sudden it takes this con and you essentially making her like a 5 6 of sorts, right? Because you're allowing her to be able to push down and kill some cards that might have scaled up, like Bishop or Angela at that point. So I love the idea of her and Man Thing, but regardless of that, I just want to say, if you're not playing Lady Deathstrike right now, dude...
It's fantastic on the Angela and the Elsa lanes collector and Loki decks, have you experimented with her?
No, I've actually not been playing much Lady Deathstrike, so no, I can't, I can't actually contribute that much to what you're so excited about because I have kind of put her, pushed her to the wayside, like I think everyone else has, right? Yeah. But it got me thinking here, is that why Lady Deathstrike is with Man Thing in the bundles or what? Is that something we've been sleeping on in the spotlight caches?
Yeah, very much well could be, she's, she, listen. It's not that she's a terrible card. Like, now that they've taken her up to four power, she, like, has a purpose. But, the decks need to be right for her to feel good and bounce right now, or flood decks, as you want to call it. Is that kind of purpose. People are playing cheap cards, big abilities, to try to get them to work, and really try to scale them up.
But with priority, dude, you, people will Mysterio, Angela, and Bishop dies in the same lane. Like, It's such a huge counter to their entire game plan of what they were trying to accomplish. Hell, you can snipe a kitty pride out. It's not perfect. She still has her weaknesses of what they are. But with Man Thing even more, I think this could be a cheeky addition.
Although then you would have to cut Green Goblin out of the deck or, you know, you'd have to figure out how you're gonna do that game plan a little bit different. But give her a shot, man. Give her a shot. I think she's not half bad.
I will, I will, I will give a shot and I'm going to demand that you give my card a shot because there's a card that as soon as I saw Manthing, I'm like this, this is the card. This is the synergy. I want to work around to start with. It's abomination. Abomination does benefit from the negative power.
And so I think that one of the first lists I'm going to work with with regards to Manthing, ironically, not just toxic, toxic, toxic, But I think there's going to be a chance for high evolutionary base lists to be able to take advantage of the the man thing, because the negative push across the the negative, sorry, the negative push across the opponent's side of the board is significant for abomination.
I love it, man. I love it. More high evil out there. You love to see it. I thought you were going to bring up potentially. The card that you love to talk about in Nebula. I was thinking about some Nebula stuff going on. Think about how Nebula works, Alex. And how you force them to play their cards at that lane. What cards would they be playing in that lane, right?
Yeah, like, well, Kitty Pride is the, the annoying one. Yes. Right? But, Yeah, they're going to be playing anything they can, right? They're going to be playing cards that, like, consistently want to play into it because they're just going to want to make sure that they pin that Nebula down. Is there a specific card you're thinking of, though?
Well, my thought is if I play Nebula on 1, So follow up Nebula to keep the balance in check. They play a two cost, they play a three cost card. So I'm forcing them to try to play these cards all in one lane together. That was kind of my, you know, Jean Grey, I like the idea of it. But by that time, there's been a lot kind of pumping. And you can they probably have gotten some of their cards out of the way. Now Jeff Nightcrawler, like these are going to be problems, right?
Which is why I think Man Thing is going to be great later on. But I like the idea of like, this certainly has them playing their 1 and 2 cost cards, their Mobius in that lane.
Yeah, okay. I get that. And also, the other thing about it is that it's going to force out their Luke Cage early if they have it. Because if they have the Nebula and they're holding Luke Cage, like, they're like, am I just going to let this Nebula Buff or do I play it down?
You, you play the loot cage into the nebula location and then you follow up with the rogue or whatever, even enchantress, if you have to, like you, you, you actually deal with the loot cage right off the bat, or again, like you said, if you're going to play the man thing on turn six, now you just know, like, Oh, I'm not playing it on turn six now, right?
Right. And like with that in mind, it could easily, easily be a forecast that follows us up. But do you feel like, and I'm trying to think of more like cheeky synergies. Do you feel like Storm would be a decent synergy with Man Thing? Cause you play her down, then him?
There's concern with Storm I have is that yes, yes, you are right. Because that's a great trade, especially since it's like, it's mana efficient. It's so energy efficient. It's, if you don't have an answer for Luke Cage, Luke Cage. So if you think about it Luke Cage affects the entire board. Whereas Man Thing affects an entire location. So they don't have to be played together. Luke Cage does not have to be in the Storm location to still protect them from Man Thing.
The more we talk about this, the more it feels like, and on, if I'm gonna be quite honest, it is like, they call it skill issue or whatever with toxic decks sometimes or other decks out there. Man Thing might be one of those cards truly.
That is like way up here at the high levels of competitive play and then way down here at the lower levels because You could theoretically start doing these decks with Luke Cage Enchantress and lizard right because you now have Luke Cage to help you lizard and then you have man thing But you have to dodge and know where you're playing them Maybe you have a ghost spider in it, but that's like there's a lot, you know Anytime have you had decks right like I remember had a Sarah shadow deck Where
you had Shadow King in a Sara deck and you're like, wait, this is stupid. Or Shadow King in a Surfer deck nowadays. Because you're almost hurting yourself. But at high levels of play it makes sense because you know where you're going to take advantage of these cards.
Yeah. Cause you need the answer. Like it's about the tool for the time. Like when there's a time to use that tool, you have it. Right. No, I agree a hundred percent. Right. It's like, it's like what goose did to so many decks before silver surfer became a staple part of goose. You had to play around goose. It's the same reason why people. In the past, at least would play like Wong and Cosmo together, or would play Cosmo and something like a spectrum.
Like, yeah, you could screw yourself, but at the same time, like, just don't screw yourself, like just learn, you know, learn the play pattern and get a good, get right. Right. So it's like, I totally get what you're saying, man, dude.
I love that you said, honestly. So I have like a list of cards right here that I have that synergize some really cheeky things. I don't even think about this. If you can get the Zabu play out. It's kind of genius. I haven't played this cat in so long. It's kind of genius to play Goosedown with Zabu. Because then you can play your man thing into a location where they can only play. In Man Thing's range. That's kinda hot.
I didn't consider that at all. You just hit me with some like, straight up like, blessed knowledge here. I didn't consider That's actually a huge, huge thing. And like, really, Goose is never dead in your hand. Let me just think here. Like, cause you're running like, debris. You can access that location. That's interesting, man. That's really interesting. I like it a lot. And hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. You can just You can play Man Thing and then follow up Goose on 5.
Like, it doesn't have to be the other way around. So if you don't draw your zapu, you can still really, you know, man thing and then goose on top of that location. They're just like, well, what do I do now? Right. So it's not as good as what you were suggesting, but I'm just throwing it out there that there are options.
Well, and this kind of leads me to where I think he's gonna work, right? We have toxic disrupt decks. Clearly you have the pure disrupt kind of feel where it's the, the hawk deck. Then you have like the hazmat deck. But then, what else do you have? I think a Spectrum deck, right? Because the other thing you can take advantage of Manthing is that you can theoretically bump him up in a little bit of power. All of a sudden, Loot Cage, Goose, Manthing, those are some of the cards in the deck.
They're all ongoing. Zabu, ongoing. You add a couple forecasts in there. We've seen Spectrum starting to rise a tad bit in some play. And all of a sudden you have Mojo, Antman. I'm thinking you could put together a competitive, ongoing deck with Goose, potentially. And the great thing about all this, Alex, is that, ManThing is going to be the worst that he is now.
I'm telling you right, the cards coming out in November and December are going to amp him up to a competitive, super competitive state. But I like the spectrum idea. Yeah, absolutely.
And the thing about spectrum is that it's one of those cards that has been, like, I know, again, we joke about this. We say it all the time, but spectrum is a card that really benefits from new releases, especially when they're inexpensive. So yeah, like I do see that potentially working overall spectrum still feels like a little undertuned, but at the same time, like. We're also forgetting that early pool 3 spectrum destroyer still awesome deck, right? It's still a really good deck.
Actually, I've seen flashes of it every once in a while. So it's like it creeps back up a little bit. But spectrum is one of those cards that maybe you could use some love and maybe, maybe for a future discussion on this podcast.
The two cards that I foresee being probably in a staple number one debris. We know this already. We're going to talk about debris in our top tens. I'm sure debris debris, you are limiting their space. So significantly, especially if you play her out with an Angela Lane and you're predicting where to play her out and how to play her out. But you're, you're just constricting their play. So Green Goblin obviously Viper, which we don't, we, we can talk about here in a little bit.
And Debris, all of a sudden now you're pushing all this crap. And sure, maybe they loot case, but at that point, they are losing out on the minimal space that they have to make their deck work.
Yeah, that's the thing, like, each location only has four slots, and each of them is so important. And when you're running these, like, very negative effects, it's like, what do you do? Like, if you have, like, a goblin on your side and a rock that's being kind of, put down by man thing, like what do you even attack that location with? Like, cause it's like, okay, they're, they're shooting all this garbage over a Viper kicked over a hood.
Like you really commit your turn six Hulk just for that side. Yeah, of course. Widow's bites probably on the board as well at that point. So yeah, like I think you're right. It's it's going to be problematic for a lot of archetypes that kind of consider themselves on top right now.
Well, lastly, dude, before we go to our, our top tech, cause I think some of the other cars we'll talk about, we're just going to naturally talk about in our top 10 toxics. You know, I think Polaris finally gets a little bit more of a purpose here. Playing her alongside into your Manthing lane is kind of cool. I think that has some nice synergy. One of the few that can target these style of cards. So I do like the idea of playing that all together.
With that though, we're going to put Manthing in this list, Alex, but I want to talk about our top 10 toxic cards, right? So these are the cards, Disrupt Toxic, that make the biggest effect. In those decks, right? Maybe they're not, you know, the, the single best, you know, looking card or their ability, but they make the biggest difference overall in their play style in their deck. And I thought this would be super easy.
And then I started putting cards that kind of belong with the toxic cards as well. It's kind of hard. I have three out that should be in, and I like to see that. I like it when it's not, was it tough for you to make this list?
Extremely hard. Extremely hard. And it's one of those things where, like, I'll be honest with you, like, I have not considered a top 10 toxic list until we discussed doing it. So I'm like, Hmm. And if I, if I just rewrite this list over and over again, I think the, it's going to change a bit. I got a bunch left off. Let's do some honorable mentions first. Let's get this out of the way. Cause I have some honorable mentions that are painful. Hit me with one. I have debris as an honorable mention.
I know, because you just said, like, oh, we're gonna talk about debris on our top tens, and I'm like... You're like, cut that home, buddy. She didn't make it for me. I got debris on the mono edges.
I'll save my, I'll reserve my my, my statements on debris for when I, when I talk about her I have, and this one was tough, dude, because there's some that like define the archetype, scorpions on the outside looking infamy right now too, which is just like weird as a toxic card. But where he stands at the moment, it's like, Wolf, you are losing out on a lot of value. He's almost listen, I'm going to talk about him in the next subject here.
So I'll, I'll refrain it, but he almost feels weird at a two cost. It is my general consensus after all the cards that you could play. So I do have Scorpion outside looking in. Kick us off with number 10, Alex, the top 10. We got number 10 for the toxic archetype. What do you got?
Oh, you're going to be so mad. Okay. You're going to be so mad. You're going to wish I how is this your 10? Oh, you're going to be so upset with me. Green Goblin's my 10? I, tell me how disappointed you are that Green Goblin's 10 on my list.
I'm disappointed. I'm, I am disappointed because of where he is on my list in comparison. I think as a, at one point he definitely could have been there. And I think that this happens to be where he belongs. Between Loki decks and bounce decks and zoo decks and just Elsa decks in general. So What he's doing to complicate the game is the best he's ever been at it, right? So, obviously he has destroy, he has things that, that can hurt him.
You have to be a little bit risky, but the skill gap is what really raises him up. So, I, I'm a little offended. I'm a little offended, but hey, everybody, we all have our own list. It's your list, not mine. It's all good. I'll tell you what's on my list here, buddy. I have at at number 10 here. And I have to ask you a question. Did you did you have difficulty placing hazmat? Yes. She's, is she an HM on your list?
She is an honorable mention on my list and I couldn't believe I did it.
She's on mine too. And she defines the toxic archetype, right? But she truly. The problem with her is like, in theory, she's so cool, but you have to hold onto her. And if you don't get Luke Cage, it just feels awful. Right? She's good, she's good. I'm not saying she's a bad card, but it's just, she's so weird. It's why she doesn't work in cerebral too with Luke Cage and there's too much punishment and the deck's so tight. So I thought that was it.
I wanted to call that out before, before it all too. And so I think people might be kind of shocked by that. This is where, and maybe you're shocked, I have the thing for High Evo. Obviously we include some High Evo cards. I've got the thing. Now... He is one of those that stats wise, he's gonna pretty much make the list as far as, like, good value stats, and it was hard to do this top 10. But I have him here at number 10. He's dependent on how many cards are in the lane.
He does Afflict, and so he makes the Abomination decks feel wonderful altogether. But in the rate that I use these decks, even in the high Evo versions I just have him here at number 10. So he's a little bit lower than the ones I have above.
Number nine for me is actually probably in terms of variance has one of the best sets of variants in the game consistently, and that's century. Century comes in at number nine for me. I know some people might not consider him a toxic card, but that voids pretty toxic. It works wonderfully with toxic cards. And for me, nine is where century comes in. Awesome.
I'll talk about him in a bit. Definitely like the pick though. Glad he made your list. I'm glad he he, he made your list. For me, I try to think about truly the, the deck that I've been playing for about three weeks. And where are they currently at? Which, if we were to make this list even a month ago, would be way different. Because it's all dependent on the meta. Mojo is what I have at number 9. Which, Mojo, you might be like, he's not a Toxic. I gotta put him in with this list.
This is where Hazmat, Scorpion, they could have made the list if I took Mojo out. But truly, right now, when I think about the Toxic archetype, when I think about Elsa, Mojo man is such a good card to place in here. He punishes the opponent. You're building your own Mojo up with this. He's easy to fit in with Dockhawk, Green Goblin, Debris, Viper. He has the direct synergy and then he is an answer upon answers to Elsa decks. So I've got Mojo at number nine.
I like that call. I'd not consider Mojo, honestly, and straight up what you just said makes perfect sense. Like you take the idea of like, Oh, hopefully they play here and you just play there yourself. You just buff up the Mojo. Right. I like that call. I kind of, kind of wish I thought of it first. Cozy. Good call. Number eight, we ready to go to number eight. Okay, this is a card that I've always loved and I've always tried to put in decks.
One of my favorite value cards in the game as a five, eight spider woman, spider woman is making a comeback and I couldn't be more happy. Like I actually really liked spider woman and a special shadow for all the Ironman players out there that really hate spider woman. Cause like the amount of damage it does to an Ironman lane is pretty heavy. But yeah, I think spider woman's been making a comeback. I mean, you've been using it in several decks.
I think it's, it's been used, which is kind of crazy. It's just good. Like five, eight value up towards a five 12. And I mean, with Iron Man, it's even more. I love it.
Yeah. I think spider woman is quite frankly, she's perfectly designed. Right. So the reason of it is even if they play a Luke cage on you on turn six. You're getting, like, an arrow that, you know, we all played arrow in a lane they already played in, and you're like, Ah, you know, at least I got eight points on the board. I think it's the same thing, right? Like, you're still getting eight power points. You know, you lost out on a little bit of that interactions, but she's punishing.
So I like that. This is where I have Sentry myself. Sentry you know, didn't start off super hot on the card. He felt, what bugged me was the left and the middle lane restriction. It always just kind of felt bad, weird. I didn't like it. But the simple fact of playing him and Viper him and Valkyrie just feel, it's so game winning, it's disgusting. I will say the only problem with him is, if you have him in the deck, your opponent is already on the lookout.
Like, gone are the days where you can sneak the Viper play or sneak the Valkyrie play as easy as it used to be. Sometimes they're gonna count that lane out regardless, and so that can be a little bit tough. But don't forget, you can fill out the lane before you play him. He's an excellent turn 5, 6 play as well that works with some cards. So I think Sentry alongside Zabu and Manthing could definitely find himself you know, winning you toxic games. We are on to number 7. Who's that for you?
For me, I have this saying. I always say, always believe in the Hob of the Gob. Gotta love Hobgoblin, and he comes in for me at 7, which I know is probably high for most people, but In my experience, first of all, Hobgoblin is single handedly trying to keep Galactus alive. Like, this card is carrying so much weight for an archetype that's been beat on, so there's that.
The other thing about Hobgoblin, is that playing it on turn 5, when it's played against me, it's like, Hmm, I really don't want to have to deal with that on turn 6. Like unless I, okay, if I'm playing Evo, then maybe I just outpower it with a Hulk or whatever. But like, if the hobgoblin comes down on turn five, it's like, you don't want to commit resources on turn six to deal with it. Like you usually have to just give that location. And I think that's really interesting.
The card is immensely disruptive when it lands. It's a very high risk, high reward card to the point that you try not to play without something like daredevil. But I like hobgoblin and I just think that it's one of those cards. And when it drops on the other side of the board, I think your opponent feels really bad.
Okay. Yeah. I don't have Hobgoblin on my list at all. I feel like, I feel like funny enough, and we can just talk about it. I had him actually on my buff list. I think a negative nine is not the worst thing in the world to him. If you did take down Galactus, that's a way to helping him out. There's plenty of ways to deal with the guy and or with the negative eight. You're already winning that lane. Most of it's like, what's the extra negative one? And it's the five costs, right?
Like Ravonna's best thing was that. Four negative eight was like perfect, felt really good. And he's just negative eight straight up and takes up a slot in, in one of the most crucial turns at Snap. I'd almost rather have four negative six on a consistent basis. Does that make sense?
No, it does. I totally understand what you're saying. For me, I think what elevated it was that like you have Galactus, you have an archetype that like, for sure, I know it's very polarizing, but there are people out there that love that archetype and this card single handedly is keeping it afloat. Yes. Like it is. The card that makes Galactus still viable, still playable, because it needs more power. It needs to gap that difference somehow.
The nerve has to be gaped somehow and it's, it's Hobgoblin that's doing it. And so for me, it just raises in value. And that's kind of where my head was at. Like this card in terms of meta relevance, it's, it's single handedly keeping Galactus alive, so that's why I kind of raised it a bit on my list. But you are right. Individually, it's not as good as the sum of its parts.
Well, I've got Debris here. You left her off the list. I feel like Debris might be one of the more perfectly balanced cards in the game, right? Because it feels... She is a very skill rewarding card. You have to know location play. You have to have good guesstimations of where they're going and how to fill things out. A well timed Debris is a game winner, right? We all know that. But why she's so good is... Gone are the days where you had to have the Hazmat Debris thing.
She now is working just with how the deck works. The deck is trying to pump out this power. I don't know. On your side while pushing and limiting the opponent and debris outside of killmonger, who's also getting less play is why she's where she's at. Now, man thing coming out and we have man thing in both of our lists today. We try to guess what, you know, where he is going to be just makes her all that much better. I like debris. I think debris is definitely a staple and a lot of my own list.
And it just works with how the deck works in general. So I've got debris here at number seven, number six, Alex.
Number six is where I put the thing, the the evolved, the thing. It's still a very good card. And the key thing about is of course, it's, it's, it's interactions with abomination in those style lists. It just never feels bad playing the thing, especially when you consider how powerful on aggregate Evo decks are anyways. So in terms of meta relevance and overall power, I think the thing is a pretty good solid pick at 6.
Although, I gotta tell you, after thinking about it, I do kind of regret not having Debris on this list. So, that's a whole other conversation.
You know, I don't fault you for having them or having them this high. It definitely makes sense. Especially if you've been on high Evo kick lately. Number six for me is where my spider woman is placed kind of talked about her on yours But just the the simple fact of what she can do to flip and tie turn the tide of battle number five i'll just lead into is this is where i've got the green goblin, right? This is where i've got.
Oh, no That's not what I expected. What'd you think? I thought you were gonna say this is where I got man thing because that's what I did I put man thing at five. You said this is where i've got i'm like, oh we did it We did it. We picked the same spot. We didn't okay green goblins. You're five and in my man things my five So this is where I think man thing Slides in here You know what, dude? I got to agree.
I think Green Goblin, I probably undersold, but at the same time, it's like, I think it's going to get better, especially as right now, destroys on the, the downhill. I wonder if Manthing really propels Green Goblin to the next stage of power where I can be sold in it being five.
He's a scary card to play at times. You have to be confident in where you're going to play him. He can kick you back in the butt. But Green Goblin for the cost amount feels, feels fantastic to me. Number four.
Number four for me is Viper. Viper is just, I think every single toxic disruption deck starts with Viper. It's synergy with debris. It's synergy with the, the void the hood. Like there's so many different cars that it just works so well with. And not only are you putting up a decent stat line on your side, basically the core stat line of the two costs, the two, three.
But you're also sending over garbage to their side, which synergizes with the exterior deck, takes away valuable space on their side of the board can also be used defensively if someone really, really likes Green Goblin and decides to throw Green Goblin on you somewhere. I, I like the card. It's one of those cards that feels pretty balanced because like, you know, you know, there's an RNG element to it.
So if like someone throws Green Goblin on a lane, you can't just be like, well, send that card over. If you want to roll the dice on it, go ahead, I guess. But I really like Viper here at four.
Yeah, I've got Viper coming up next, so I'll just list mine and then I'll talk on Viper. So my four's Doc Ock. We can get to him. I'm sure he'll be on yours. Viper's my three. So, Viper to me is one of the most cornerstones of the deck. I feel like when I have Viper in my starting hand, I know I'm probably gonna win. Or at least I know how I'm going to win, or what I need to do. I don't have Hood on my list. Obviously, I don't, you know, he feels like he belongs in Toxic.
I don't have him directly as a Toxic card. The Hood as a follow up, Debris, Sentry. But on top of that you also can just clog them like you just do the math trade off and you're like alright I'm giving up whatever it is Maybe it's you know not a negative card But then you're trading off that with you know you can win that location and she's giving you power So she has a huge swing in value.
She feels like the cornerstone of toxic to myself so I love Viper, and the fact that Annihilus is just an AoE Viper is stupid good. I cannot even imagine how good Toxic will be after he comes out. Doc Ock is my 3, Alex. Do you happen to have Doc Ock at 3?
You did this to me again, you just said like, Oh, you definitely have Doc Ock and he goes, Doc Ock is not on my list. I associated Doc Ock with disruption, not with toxicity. So like, I did not actually use Doc Ock here. So once again, you've set me up for the roast here, which is fine. Cause like, I get where you're going with this. Cause like the Doc Ock list that you released with like the obviously toxic and it was evil. It, it, it's damn evil.
And it's, it's, it's a great card for exactly what it is. But like sometimes Doc Ock punches you right in the pants. So hard. Yeah. So I'm, I'm interested in hearing your cell on it being this high. It's actually way higher than I thought you to put it.
For sure. I love it. Cause like I've seen people like say, Oh, it's, it doesn't have hazmat. It's on toxic deck to me. Toxic dish and disrupt are the same thing. It's like, right. It's just like pissing off your opponent. That deck is toxic. Doc Ock is synergizing with everything else that we've been trying to do, right? So Mojo to my point, works really well.
If you don't want the repercussions of Doc Ock, you've maybe already filled their lane with a Viper card with a Green Goblin, so the trade off doesn't feel nearly as bad. You're pumping out a lot of power. You've got Ghost Spider that's synergizing with your Spider Woman and with your Green Goblin and some of your other cards, like Sentry, so then you can also play Doc Ock, move him out of the way. I happen to have this list, and this isn't exactly tuned up all the way.
But in this list here, right, we've got a lot of cards that already fill their lane. And this one runs a Shang Chi. So you have your Doc Ock. Yes, a lithe is a pain in the ass. Shang Chi exists on the opponent's side. But with this list, you now have something to follow up with your Doc Ock. So it feels extremely good. And what I might run in with the the Man Thing deck, if Zabu gets prevalent, is you play your Doc Ock on 5.
Your opponent has their Infinite, their American Chop, whatever it might be right there. And then you just Shang Chi it. And all of a sudden, they're out. They're lose. And you already have, you know, your other Green Goblin location, whatever that might be, right? So Doc Ock just fits the archetype. He feels really good to play. And with the synergy and Mojo, that's why I've got him where I've got him.
It makes perfect sense. And it's kind of interesting because I think you're not going to have my three either. And it's just like, I didn't have your three. I wonder if it's a similar situation where you didn't consider my three a toxic card. Okay. But three is where I put, which I feel like I talk about too often, is Abomination. Because this card just loves these toxic effects. Now, it's application is a little more niche in the types of decks because of obviously high evolutionary.
But evolutionary toxic evolutionary debuff, even evolutionary versions running has Matt all see abomination as a linchpin card. The issue, of course, is going to be the prevalence, the 32. 9 percent prevalence of triple M right, which really impacts this card negatively. So now you're in a situation where. I think a bomb could be one of the best cards in snap from a value perspective, but not only are you being impacted by triple M you're also being impacted by Luke Cage.
So it has this double pronged like counter where it's like, if they have Luke Cage bombs, not useless, but it's a five, nine, it feels a little gross. If they have the Mobius, then you're screwed. If they have Luke Cage, you're screwed. So there's this like double pronged negative kind of counter towards abomination, which I think holds them back.
Yeah. And the, and the deck said he works definitely. I, you know, I didn't consider him a toxic card on my list, but I, Again, in the high evo builds, which is what we're going to see some blends of. I can see it working. The one that I left off is probably on either 2 of crazy, but when I looked at all my 10 here, I left off Leech. Even though Leech is like THE toxic card. He's THE one that people freaking hate.
Just in the playstyle of how I play it, I've left him off outside of the Psylocke build that I had. Because you have other 5 costs at that point. Like Spiderwoman, like Doc Ock. Number two is where I have Manthing. I truly think Manthing in his archetype is going to be massive. He's going to be an absolute massive card. Yes, he's only going to be a 4 5 if they happen to get something going with Luke Cage. But I think there's going to be deck design around that. I really do.
And speaking towards the future, this is where he's going to belong. And I think Manthing, if I look at the cards below him, what he's offering and the presence of him in one lane, especially Alex as a late game play. I'm just telling you, if you could play him and Shang Chi together after a Dokka, it just feels like this could be a dominant card in Snap. That being said, don't buy him unless you like how you play the archetype. You have another day to play the archetype to see if you like it.
But I have Man Thing at number 2. Is this where the card I just said is on your side?
You called it, it's Leech. For me, number two is where Leech comes in. And it's because it's the most frustrating card in Marvel Snap. It's toxic as hell on a number of different levels. How can you kind of surpass the toxicity of just disabling the the hand of your opponent? But they still get to top deck, by the way. I think that's a lot of... That's something that takes a lot of people by surprise.
Like I've been leached before and top teched Shang Chi and been like, okay, I wonder if they expect me to Shang Chi here this, and they do not expect me to Shang Chi. So that sometimes works to my advantage.
No doubt leeches, leeches without question toxic. And I, I'm just going to take a guess. We both have high Evo Psylocke at the number one spot, dude. God, Lee is this guy a menace. It's an absolute, I, it doesn't even matter if you play him after storm. It doesn't matter where you play him.
The thing is, is that a lot of people have said like, okay, high evolutionaries win rate is so high. Do you take some off, you know, Cyclops is Cyclops, the attack vector. And it's like, but wait a minute, like every single archetype has its, its key component. It's card that overperforms in that archetype, the, the, the genre defining card and Cyclops is exactly that. Yeah, okay, nerf, you know, the thing, nerf wasp, whatever.
You probably leave Cyclops alone, because it ties that whole deck together, especially in the mid game. It's unreal. I think it's one of the top cards in Marvel Snap. Like, when you see Cyclops on a lane and you don't have Luke Cage, you're just like, It's the same thing as, like, we talked about Man Thing, like, it's the same thing with Cyclops. You don't want it as just a 3 4 power. His pew pew is so powerful.
That it can completely win a location, it can completely win a game, but most importantly, it feeds into everything else, the abominations and whatever else you have going. It's an unbelievable card.
And he is, he's up there as one of the best cards now, not only for the toxic archetype, but just high evo decks in general, and the play style that they have. He's a killer man, he's definitely he earns his status as where he is in the Marvel universe. Let's move x men. They're gonna keep that text there for the rest of time. Let's go to move on though We got one last subject here. We've got buffs and nerf wish list.
We'll keep it somewhat short However, I think we could both agree pretty shocked at how lackluster the content patch was And the OTA, Cable feeling weird at a 3 4. Maria Hill was the only true winner of that. And I'm gonna talk about her a little bit more on your side of things. What do we want? What do we want out of this? Because it feels close and I wanted to open the conversation. With an apology. Okay. Sometimes Loki, when he comes out, feels fun. He's a lot of fun. He's great.
And over time, he gets a little bit out of hand. Right? I've been a big defender of Oliath, but I did state this last week, even with my with my defense, I would like to see the cards have an on reveal effect still. And then they get destroyed. Right? So that you can have counterplay at hand. There are things that need to happen. I think that needs to happen with Oliath. I think you've got to make him a 6 4, so that you can have other cards beat him across.
Or you go ahead and have the on reveal trigger. I think they're more likely to do the 6 4 effect, but at this point, the first I want to kick this off with a nerf I think needs to happen, and that's Alioth.
People are very upset with Alioth. I think this is getting close to the kind of meta impact that Leader had. Like, the idea of like, this turn 6 play just wins and I can't do it. But Leader was way worse. Because you just play it anywhere and it just replicates their play and they just lose. Like, there's no, there's no soul read. Leader had no soul read. So objectively, I think a life is better than right. However, it is extremely uninteractive for the player being alive.
It's extremely frustrating, but at the same time cozy. And I had this thought we're also not teching against the life very well. Like he's, if you tech Cosmo, if you tech armor, if you tech, like there's ways to deal with a life and it's the tech is not making the top lists. So we're getting these top base win rate lists. We're playing them and they all run a life, but none of them run the tech because, and here's the challenge. You're not running the tech. Cause it counters your own damn life.
People that are, I don't want to say very general, but when we, when you lose to a life and you have a life in your deck, you probably shouldn't be mad because if you don't have a life in your deck, you can run Cosmo. You can run armor and then their life is much less likely to be impactful. So. I am very torn on this card.
I love him. I do. I love the card. Don't get me wrong. I think he's a lot of fun to be had. I think there's no reason not to have a life in your deck and that's one of the sole problems. But also, making him a 6 4, I don't want to just clamor for that, because I do enjoy the card, and listen, Elioth is going to be a good card regardless. I want to combine this with some buffs that I want, to make Elioth's presence feel less.
First of all, just taking him to a 6 4, that's where I would like to start. It's what I wanted to see before Galactus got completely pushed to the ground. You have the psychological effect on players to not play him as much because he got nerfed. So you kind of take him out of the meta a bit. Leech had that impact massively. Shuri, we've seen this before. Good cards don't get played as much. But also, I want to lead into a buff that I would like to see.
So we already had Dr. Doom, which I think was very much needed. Loved what Dr. Doom brought his five bots back. He could beat Alioth. But on the flip side, and you can play this, he's not a six cost, or she's not a six cost. I would like to see Captain Marvel go back to her original cost. She beats Alioth at that point. The Kraven deck is great, but now we have different answers to it.
Elsa might put her over the top a bit, but it feels like this may be a card that I would like to see combat Alioth. And bring your card back up instead of bringing the card down all the way. Any thought?
No, I like your idea. I like your idea a lot. In fact, in my buff list, I do have Cap Marvel. Because I love the card. It's one of my favorite cards in the game. And I feel like the nerf did it you know, it, it hurt it really bad. And that, that made me sad. But what I will say is that, like, I like your approach of, Okay, is, is Alioth itself truly the problem?
I like, I get what you're saying with the six, four, but at the same time, it's like, I don't know if that actually changes much because it's the initiative game that matters so much. They're you, if, if you have any initiative whatsoever, if they're just winning the location at all, it's an automatic win. I think that's where people get frustrated. So it can be a six, one, and it still does that job.
But the idea of buffing something, a captain Marvel that can counterplay the Aliath where the Aliath player cannot influence the movement of captain Marvel cannot. Destroy Captain Marvel. I think that's where things get interesting. And again, I leave that to Glenn to try and sort out, I suppose.
I'm going to be brief with the last ones I have, but like Angel, Okoye, Strong Guy, Punisher, we need to see these. It's, it's been long enough. We've talked about this guy too, but it makes even more sense now that Man Thing comes out and Gladiator's coming out, which is his cohort in the Marvel universe. This, this card is dead. Colossus is a dead ass card. It is a counter per se, two man thing. Which we could have talked more about counters, but some of them are obvious.
Colossus is a dead card. He, I think he will be buffed when Gladiator comes out. But like, yeah, you can play this with your own man thing, you can play it against it, but it's a 2 3. Mobius is a two, three, even a two, four start there. You know what I mean? But he, he definitely is just, he's just not great.
Yeah. He feels bad. And I mean, early on in pool one and two, he felt okay. Cause I think the location pools is minimized. So you get a lot of like the sewer systems and like those negative locations. I think he feels better early, but as the, as you kind of gain collection level, and I think they open up the the locations a little more. Suddenly Colossus feels awful. Like it feels completely irrelevant. No point of play.
Even in all he gets cut from ongoing lists, which like, if you're talking about doing ongoing man thing, like this should be in the deck, but you're going to be running Luke Cage anyway. So why would you run this? Right? It's he's a hundred percent useless. I agree.
Any, any last buffs to mention or nerfs?
Yeah, I got a couple here. I want to talk about a couple. I got two buffs and one rework. I want to talk about fast. The buffs. Okay. We need to make Omega red buff. And I feel like this has to be an easier one. Talk about dials. He's got multiple dials. You buff his power. Do you buff the requirement for Omega Red? Do you buff the actual effect? Three dials right off the top. Omega Red needs something. The other thing is I think that Master Mold needs a rework.
And Master Mold was recently in a bundle. But one thing I will say is the idea I'm going to pitch is not something that I came up with. It actually was mentioned to me, Master Mold being reworked.
To instead of getting, just adding two Sentinels to the hand and having a base stat line of two, two, but getting plus one for each Sentinel in play, whether on your opponent's side or your side, I think it was a really cool idea that came from the community that like the idea of like, Hey, if they play those Sentinels, you're buffing my master mold. So keep them in your damn hand. I think that's really cool. And it would make so much more sense.
That's cool. I like that idea. That's a lot of fun. And it hits a lore and then it also makes them like. Have his own unique deck play style behind it. There's locations that kind of help it as well. That's fun. I like that one a lot. I love unique. Approaches rather than just like a power boost, right?
Some rapid fire ones that I have too So this one's quick, but I just want to say I think shauna is at a place now If we look at mysterio and we we talked about it last week just give the word play to these cards Why not? Why not at this point have it up with mysterio? That is single handedly gonna make shauna have a play deck and elsa synergy. I think this is an easy fix No question, right?
Yeah, no question bishop synergy I think that has to go Negasonic, which I went to two costs because I wanted to pitch it. Negasonic, in comparison to Alioth, is a, is a joke, as you know. I think either tone down the stats, or tone down the cost in the stats, and make her not die. Make her destroy the card, it's one card, and make her not die. I get the risk reward thing with her. You either need to buff up her stats to be a significant disadvantage, like Maximus is, or whatever it is.
There has to be a stat adjustment and or an ability adjustment, especially because she's coming in a spotlight and I can't see this Negasonic arrive. I can't.
It's, we've called it in the past. We're like, there's no way that spotlight comes and that card's the way it is, right? And Negasonic has to be one of those cards that would change. We called it on Snowguard and I got one more that I just have to say, Kang needs a rework. Okay, listen to this. Cozy, tell me how disgusting this is. Kang, a six cost card that undoes all negative effects that your board experienced.
It reses Shang Chi cards, it reverts toxic buffs, unless it's ongoing, and resets your board state as if none of it happened. Turn back time, my friend. Kang turned six. What do you think?
Dude, that's an OP as hell card. Ha ha! That's OP! I love it! I mean, don't get me wrong, that'd be if people hate him now, holy crap. After that animation, watching all your work get done, it's like reverse Galactus, you know? I saw the suggestion of letting him redraw for you. So, like, no matter what, he's a redraw on that turn. I kinda like that, cause it's like, alright, it's thematic. Listen, sign me up for your gang. I'll buy that in a pack.
It's kind of funny though, imagine you're like your Shang Chi Devil Dinosaur just like resurrects because you turn back time. Kang just brought in another timeline, got another Devil Dinosaur. Galactus, you played Galac they played Galactus, but the locations come back because he turned back time. That's a pretty cool Galactus nerf, like, let's be honest.
I love the love for it. I love the love for it and even if it was restricted to the last turn, I think it could be cool stuff you could do there. Maybe not the whole battle, probably, probably be a little wild, but also, hey, you know, maybe if it also like affected you, so like Gamma Lab would unhook him, I don't know, like, there's some play to it. Listen, Alex, I love it. I love it, and I love you. All right. Well, Alex, Elsa just came out.
So let's go ahead and break down what we think of her after the first week of play testing. We know she's good, but how good.
Elsa bloodstone has had an immense impact on the meta. So I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on Elsa thus far this season. It's only been a week, but we're seeing an impact of the meta on Marvel snap on a far greater level than perhaps people might have originally given it credit for.
Yeah, I mean, I love to see season pass cards that target an archetype, but even more so, for like the sake of snap, I love these diverse ones, right? Like, obviously this was a bit more love to bounce, to kitty pride, to zoo, but it's like, kind of spread out really well. I mean, heck, I even just named a couple of archetypes right there. And you're able to play her in a wide variety of decks. She feels fun to play. She doesn't feel overpowered by any means.
She's draw dependent, but not nearly as bad as Zabu. I think we both alluded to that, and I think we were pretty spot on last week. I think Elsa is definitely a card that feels great, probably the best or Top two in the season, which is probably how it should be. I think the thing I'm most sad about is I looked at future spotlights coming out. She's not in one. She's not coming out in December for people. And I'm like, God, cause I love her. And I think she works on a lot of decks.
How about yourself?
Yeah, that was something we discussed. I think with the idea of like having these cards come out sooner than later in the spotlight caches to kind of raise the profile of the spotlight caches, because we do have Loki coming, right? Loki's coming which is awesome. And I hope they kind of continue and maybe even tighten up that timeline a little bit for free to play players. I think that makes a lot of sense. I've I've loved Elsa. I've loved Elsa. Now I like Loki. I like Loki.
I like the play style of Loki, but I think I like Elsa better because it feels like it's much more slottable into more decks. Loki decks felt like Loki decks and there were some experimentation with different styles of Loki deck, but it was a Loki deck, but what I will say is that Elsa has so much applicable kind of qualities to various archetypes, which has made this meta feel a little more refreshing. The cards that people are upset about are not necessarily Elsa Bloodstone.
They're just the usual suspects of like, you know, Oliath and others, but people I think are pretty positive with Elsa. They're not like, it's not like, damn it, this Loki crap is pissing me off. I'm not seeing that with Elsa. I don't know if you're seeing it, but I'm definitely not.
No, not at all. And I think that she has like the obvious decks that she's working in, but With that, right, it's the it's the tale as old as time. There are decks like Black Panther and ramp decks, but then you're not gonna get the most cubes because it's obvious what you're doing. So with Elsa, everybody's expecting bounce, and so they're kind of targeting that with Shadow King, whatever. Elsa can work in much more than just that, which is why I think people like her.
Because they're plugging her in the decks that they like to play. So, I want to talk about the better decks, but like, Alex, I want to ask you before we get there. What's the spiciest Elsa deck that you have?
Mine is Blood Flood. Like, I really like Blood Flood because like it's I'll throw it up on the screen here. Basically what it does is it utilizes these cards I've not been seeing much play, specifically Dazzler and others. That basically give you this opportunity to just have these miracle turn six plays where all of a sudden your board is worth so much, especially with Mysterio.
I think that the thing about it that is really cool about Elsa specifically is, it's not like Zabo as we alluded to earlier where you have to draw it on two. Elsa can be drawn and played on turn five in anticipation of your turn six where you're going to fill all those locations. I love playing Elsa in a way where, like, I'm considering the macro side of the game.
I'm going three in this lane, three in this lane, three in this lane, four here, but I can move the Nightcrawler here to make it three for the Mysterio. Like, I love that. I feel like Elsa has been very mentally engaging, and these zoo style lists are a lot of fun, and I've been thoroughly enjoying them.
Yeah, so Double Up I'm going to talk about later in today's episode, but I have a lot to say about that and how Elsa works. I think it's In such a great place at the moment. I'm gonna talk about a deck that I have a guide coming out for. And Alex, obviously you're gonna love it. Because it's it's all about what you love to play. Silver Surfer. So, I think Elsa has fit perfectly in a Surfer build. I'll tell you why.
First of all, it's a mix of Patriot Surfer, which everybody is doing the Patriot Iron Lad. I'm not doing that. I'm not, it's not a Patriot Surfer deck like you've seen kind of time and time again. What this is going to be focusing on is playing cards, obviously Mysterio, that Patriot can boost up. Patriot's a three cost in himself. We, we know Brood is going to be in a Surfer deck, and he's clearly also going to be working with Surfer.
But then on top of that, you have cards like Dazzler, what are going to benefit off filled lanes. Elsa is going to be benefiting off these cards that are filling these lanes. And all of a sudden, you have these two 2 cost cards in Elsa and Mysterio that feel fantastic. But the Cherry on top, and I actually played this deck against Binx on his stream, and I love it. I'm telling you, this is one of my favorite Surfer decks because it's different. And it, and it took a while to homebrew it too.
I've got Nova and Killmonger. Now obviously, the Killmonger is because it's perfect to just, to counter what's out there. High Evo and Bounce decks. Kill em! Get rid of em! And this deck doesn't scale too fast either because of the Mysterios. So often times you could be under the priority of a Kitty Pride deck, and they play Kitty and you could kill it.
But on top of that, you have Nova Alex that is feeding your Mysterio's Illusion, so you're getting, you're not dependent on Patriot, you're not dependent on Surfer, Brood, Mysterio have the Nova kickoff too, and you have the Elsa. It is my favorite homebrew in a while, because it just feels different, and it all kind of works together. And then lastly in the homebrew, of course you know I've got Jean Grey in there, I've got Rogue, both feel great.
Mobius could be in this because we are running Sarah, alright? But Rogue's in there because you just simply can take what is going to counter you. And then the last piece here to, to kind of finish some of it off. You got the Spider Man to get the Elsa bonus. And you have Dawkin. Now, Dawkin is in here and is probably the weirdest pick. We've got Dawkin for two reasons. I'm going on a rant, but I'm just... I didn't do my deck guide yet. I'm excited to spit it.
We've got Dawkin to not only fill up a lane easily. We can use this Shard to help out our Elsa. But on top of that, we also now have Dawken to get boosted up by the Surfer and the Killmonger play. It all adds up together for an easy, easy play. Dude, I can't wait for you to try this deck.
It sounds incredible. It sounds incredible. And it sounds like you just, you're stacking so many tech cards that don't usually see play at the three slot. Like it's just, it's tech card after tech card after tech card, while also throwing up some serious power. So, and listen, I've been, I've always been a believer in the Killmonger Nova package in Silver.
It's been one of the ones where I legitimately start with, I'm like, it feels too good, too good to also have tech while buffing up your board state with the broods and the you know, the Mysterios and whatnot. So I love the list. I mean, you don't have to sell me on a surfer list. I'll play any surfer list. I just love the archetype. So I'm excited to give it a shot. I'm looking forward to that guide, Cozy.
I wanted to do something different, man. I feel like surfer's been the same, right, for a while. He's been the same as I this combines Elsa. It's a little greedy, but definitely is the approach that I went to counter Elsa as well. What are you running into the most for Elsa? Like what decks are you running into that haven't?
I feel like the one that I'm seeing the most right now is blood Glenny stone, which was like the Glen kind of Jane Foster based list with with the yellow jacket and the wasp. And for what it's worth, it made hip monkey feel relevant again. And I had this thought it's so crazy. Cause we, like, we were just recently talking about Boston nurse, but it's like, interesting how, like, you don't have to change a card. You just have to add a card to the game that synergizes with that card.
Like Hitmonkey felt dead in the water for the last couple of months. Impossible to even recommend in the spotlight cash as it was in. And then now you're in a situation where you get Elsa Bloodstone coming out. You have a great deck that utilizes Wasp, Yellowjacket, Hitmonkey, Mysterio. And suddenly Hitmonkey makes sense because Kitty Pryde's in that deck too. So you have Kitty Pryde as a one cost, two, three, and all of a sudden your turn six is this like.
Massive drop of power, which is supposed to be countered by the likes of Sandman and the leeches of the world. But until you came up with your guide, we weren't seeing much Sandman. So you were able to do these crazy kind of combinations and just generate insane power. That's been probably the one I've been seeing a lot of.
Yeah.
And rightfully so. I think it's a fun deck.
So the Sandman list was created because of that. I was tired of seeing like the amount of like last turn Yellowjacket, Wasp, Hitmonkey plays. I was done with it. To punish, they play a Jain, you can play your Sandman. All of a sudden, to play the Muralneer, they've gotta, they've gotta fully commit. And that deck spread like wildfire. I did actually, I didn't make a video on it. And I actually wanted to say this. This is a great testament to not all decks have to be for you.
This is a great deck. I just didn't like the deck. I didn't like how the deck played. I hated how I got, you know, Jacket and Wasp. I'm just sitting there. Like I'm skipping my third turn in a row because it's an explosive deck. It's definitely an explosive deck. And it just didn't fit, like, my particular playstyle, but it is everywhere. That deck, I mean, it did spread like wildfire you know, rightfully so. And again, it's like why I was like, alright, I'm turning into Sandman.
But yes, definitely strong. I think balanced decks we've seen with Falcon. The Sarah decks, those are the more common Elsa Bloodstone decks that we've seen. And Shuri, Shuri with Elsa Bloodstone has been a thing too, yeah?
Yeah, you're seeing Shuri, you're seeing it everywhere. And I think the Shuri list that you're seeing is that that Hulkbuster base list. Because Hulkbuster will get the buff, and then give you the additional space to play with Elsa Bloodstone. What a great synergy that is. Like, that's the one, actually, that's worth noting here. This has been one of the cards that has really... Put into the headlights that like the mechanics, the fundamental mechanics of Marvel snap need like a full look over.
Like we, we kind of discussed Shauna before about how Shauna doesn't like, you just change that to like a play, a one drop in each lane and stuff like that. Like those types of inconsistencies have really revealed themselves with Elsa Bloodstone. And I think that that's one of those things like next patch or the next patch from that or whatever, within the next month or two, they really have to go through the text, the effects.
And make them more consistent because with Elsa, we had some synergies that weren't working. Like you would have thought they would have right. Like Shauna, like we discussed, but other times it's like, who really would have thought that Hulkbuster wasn't work that way. And it does. And it's perfect. Actually. I think you actually mentioned it on the Snapchat. Now that I think about it, so maybe cozy new dammit. But ultimately I think that the mechanics of this card are really complex.
However, I have something negative. I want to say about Elsa, something I really hate about it. It's the only thing I hate cozy. And I want your opinion on it. Tell me if I'm wrong. This stems from what happened to Collector. Hear me out. Collector took a stray for Loki. Collector's not played in any deck other than Loki now. I'm concerned that Kitty Pryde took a stray for Elsa.
Whereas, like, to some degree, because of its synergy being so incredibly, I don't want to say obvious, but powerful, they had to tone Kitty Pryde back to the point where Kitty Pryde feels much worse everywhere else. Except for Elsa Bloodstone. I don't like that this is happening. I don't like the fact that these cards are really notable cards are being turned into these like one trick ponies because of over effective combinations with newly released season pass cards.
Yeah, I totally get what you're saying. I mean, I think Angela and her are pretty stupid together. You know, regardless, like, they're just a good one two punch. I think, like, her exclusivity in a deck... Like the Taskmaster Kitty Pryde Deck, right? Like that is now dependent. Elsa is so plug and playable that like, if you're gonna play Kitty, play her. If you're gonna play Bishop, play Mysterio. Like those kind of things that just kind of like go together as these combos.
I, yeah, what it is, man, is I feel like Kitty's just too good. I, like, she always has been so good, you know what I mean? Like, in a world, like, this is what pissed me off about the balance patch. Like, I don't know why we can't have a 1 with this new ability when we have Kitty Pryde. Why, like, why is, like, Kitty Pryde is so ridiculous. For a one cost drop, it does take away, and cards are taken like unnecessarily hit, so we saw that more ever than with Loki.
But, like, if you looked at all the one cost cards, I feel like, you know, you play those with certain decks, like Nebula, and you should play Kitty Pryde with certain decks, and they shouldn't just be this, like, you just play her everywhere kind of thing. And she works with Angela, and she works with Elsa, so I don't know, I get what you mean, I totally understand, but I think I don't mind where Kitty is at, at the moment, personally.
Okay, so you're saying that the narrowing of Kitty Pride might actually be a net benefit because it's being played in less decks, where it felt like an auto include, where it probably didn't have to be? I can respect that, I see that, that's a good perspective as well, because like, Yes, it really works here, but maybe it's not going to work as well. And that shuri shell, but again, the shuri shell just runs also bloodstone. So what are we talking about? Yeah. I hear you.
And like talking about Uatu, I just, this is just therapy now. Uatu. I had like one of my favorite cards in the game. It's always been horrible. Do you know how depressing it was for me to see that patch note? And I recognize that it's probably actually a little better than it was before, but doesn't he literally say, I see all. When he gets played, and now, like, when they locate, now it's like, I see right. Like, What? He's supposed to see all, to show all.
Why couldn't it be 1 2 if you're just gonna show the right location? I, I'm, I was so upset, Cozy, when you said it, my blood started boiling, I had to just bring it up.
And Glyn retrust, but on that one, I just was like, I don't know, I like, again, in a world where, like, some of these 1 drops exist, we can't have a 1 God forbid, we've got the 1 you know? I do. I do understand that one to the fullest degree. I also wanted to finish on... Sadly, in this game, there's so much variance that someone's getting screwed over. My heart goes out to those people. Like, we had the Kiddie Pride pack. People got it, and I understand...
Like, Kiddie Pride needed to be nerfed. It is on Second Dinner to to get together and talk and say, Hey, I think we're playing on nerf, and then you can release that after the nerf, and then have people decide. For people that invested into Kitty Pryde and in their decks and now they're kind of forced to play Elsa, but maybe they Unlocked Kitty Pryde naturally, and then they don't want to buy Elsa. So like, I feel for those people.
I do want to say that, because that does suck, and that they need to, I really hope Second Dinner Man, there's so many freaking teams that work together. So it's very hard. But I feel like, just like, you know what bundles are coming out. We know what bundles are coming out, so just take a look at that. And maybe do some forward planning. It's tough.
I know, I think, I don't want to speak for him, but I know Glenn, like, he's not diabolically doing these things, I think he's doing his thing, marketing's doing their thing, bundles, but I think that some of this can go together, if that makes sense.
Oh, it makes perfect sense. We've seen this multiple times, like when Darkhawk didn't get dropped in series, but was in a package immediately after, right? That was like the Three times value nonsense that like, dude, you're right. Like it's a hundred percent, like the optics of it are not good. And it sucks. I mean, I bought that burglary bundle or whatever it was. And it's like, oh, great. Now just kitty prey got destroyed. But then like Elsa comes out, it's all like, it's all relative.
There's always the greater plan, right? Like they can look ahead in a way that we can't, but at the same time, it's like, if they can look ahead in a way that we can't, then why are these bundles in the nurse happening the way they are? Like, why can't we just switch it? Yeah, maybe there's, again, game dev is hard. I ain't no game dev, but like we can see them making forward facing decisions. Like with the Elsa bloodstone nerf, I'm sorry, the kitty nerf in anticipation of Elsa.
Why can't we do that with the bundles? Dude, I agree with you a hundred percent. Like I, that's not a hot take. You're right. You nailed it.
So in the, in the vein of like the kitty prior taken astray, like I'm pro, like she deserved it, but I do want to, yeah, I wanted to kind of say. That aspect but yeah, Bloodstone, good card man, like her, I think she has even more fun decks ahead of her, and she plays well on a lot of decks.
Absolutely, and I think this is going to be a good transition to talking about our top 10 win rate cards of Marvel Snap right now. Elsa, not in there, not on the list, which is pretty interesting, it's actually running about a 58 percent win rate. Now these are untapped base stats, so that's just one notable point there. What I will say is that right now, a couple of things about win rate bots have a factor in there during the latter, this point of the laddering season.
So I tried to mitigate that a little bit with as much extra data points as I could. But what we're going to talk about here are the cards that have the highest win rates on aggregate. The first card we're going to talk about here is going to be the 10th card. We're going in reverse order here, cozy as we usually do. Number 10. Is the relatively recently buffed doctor doom doctor doom is running a 59. 9 percent win rate, but that's not what is so shocking of all the cards on this list.
It has the highest meta share of the top 10 cards. It went from being almost completely irrelevant when the doom bots got nerfed to a forecast. Now cozy, it's running a 19. 4 percent meta share. It is literally everywhere. It's one of those cards that, as it traditionally had been, almost every deck just got better when you slammed Doom in it. If the one nerf on the pots was too much and destroyed it out of the meta, I'm not sure what you do now. Maybe Dr. Doom's just a Marvel Snap staple.
Yeah, I think he's like, people deem it the perfect card, right? So I think he kinda just fits that. And, like, when he is at this level, you know, you do assume doom in these decks, like, he's, he's one of those, like, on turn six, it's like, oh, damn, I lose to doom, and then you retreat, right? Like, there's times where, maybe if you're aggressive snapping and you still lose to doom, like, he kind of, like, that's... The life of aggressive snapping, I guess.
But he's assumed to be there because of his play rate. You know, he does, his effect, when they nerfed him and brought him back, we knew he was gonna go right back to where he was, and you know, rightfully so. I like, I like Dr. Doom in this world.
In lockdown, a card that really works well to mitigate Dr. Doom obviously Professor X does, but I think one that's slept on is Nebula because Nebula will proc is plus two behind like stormed location. So you really, you're only, it has to, you're only gap in three because like the Nebula is going to go up by two and the bot's going to come on over. That's something worth considering as well. But I do like Dr. Doom, it's one of my favorite cards in the game. I absolutely love it.
So it doesn't surprise me that it is still extremely meta relevant. At number nine, we're now into the 60%, which is kind of wild, but that's exactly where we are. There's some cards that just incredibly perform, and this is taskmaster 60. 1 percent win rate at a 9. 8 percent meta share. Now the meta share is Pretty damn high. It's one of the higher ones of the list in general. Obviously under Dr. Doom's incredibly high one. Taskmaster is seeing a lot of play right now.
And what really fascinates me about Taskmaster is it's no longer just a shuri card. It's being played in a couple of different actually there's still kind of a shuri card. There's a number of different shells that Taskmaster is being played in. And I like, I feel like Taskmaster feels like a pretty damn fair card. So I don't mind it.
I've always loved, yeah, I've always loved Taskmaster the way he plays. He makes like a deck different and your opponent won't always expect it, right? Like Deadpool, Taskmaster feels great. I've just been putting him and Vision and Elsa together as a package. Just having vision that gets an extra little boost and go to an 11 power card and then you have taskmaster to follow that and you can get a one drop that's probably kitty pride or whatever. Just feels good. It's a fun card to play.
I really much enjoy him as a, as a play style with like the proper amount of risk and reward.
Absolutely. And the thing about taskmaster as well, that's easy to forget is it did see a bit of a nerf. When the Shang Chi change was applied, where if the card that gets task mastered, I guess, gets destroyed, then the taskmaster effect doesn't actually proc, right? So that was a change that happened, it impacted Mystique, it impacted Taskmaster. So now number eight, and this is going to start a bit of a pattern here in terms of what the highest win rate cards are.
And this fascinates me because these are a lot of cards that people don't complain about, but statistically number eight at a 60. 3 percent win rate at 5. 3 percent of the meta. We've got zero. Can you believe that zero is currently the eighth highest win rate card in Marvel snap. And yet I don't see anybody, anybody complaining about zero. And while I think this is indicative of how strong the Shuri shell is.
Zero just puts up serious points because of its ability to interact positively in not only just that shell, but just general value based decks.
Yeah, I mean, I can probably expect the pattern here. If we looked at Loki's season, whenever I posted the top ten cards... On Twitter, I think AgentCoulson was a top 10 win rate card, and it's like, wonder why, right? It's because he's boosting up collectors, helping out Loki, and he's in that deck that everybody's playing in. And right now, Shuri's you know, Shuri deck is, is a hot, a hot hand, right?
The cool thing about him, too, is just simply playing him, obviously with Lizard or the number of cards you can play him in, but also, if you don't draw correctly, and just playing him with Red Skull on 6, It's such an, like, unrespected play line. It's so good, it fills out multiple locations, and then, I mean, throw in a little Elsa. Like, I loved Elsa in that deck, because she doesn't have an ongoing effect. It feels perfect, right?
Yes, and what's interesting about this is that when I was looking at the top ten list as I was formulating it, I was like, hmm, we're starting off with a couple of these Shuri cards. But then what was interesting is that, I'll spoil it, Shuri, not in the top 10. Shuri's not in the top 10. That might surprise you. It's interesting to think that the linchpin card of the archetypes not in the top 10, but the cards that get supported by it get elevated.
So that's an interesting point of conversation. But number seven is a card that's not a part of Shuri. I don't think it's ever been played as a part of a Shuri deck at all. But it is one of the most evergreen cards in Marble Snap. One of the absolute favourites. Cozy, I know a smile is going to come on your face in a moment. Patriot at number seven, a 60. 5 percent win rate, 5. 4 percent of the meta. I'm gonna let you take this one.
You don't play Patriot Shuridex Alex? No. And you're ultra on builds? Yeah, it's cool, man. I mean, I, if you were a Patriot player since day one of Snap, then you've been doing good since day one of Snap. And now... Really, you know, Tenfold, the Iron Lad, I think the thing that kind of sucks is outside of the Surfer deck that I was kind of mentioning, is like, kind of like Bishop needs Mysterio, who wants Hitmonkey, whatever, Patriot, his web now, is like ten cards.
That you, you almost feel like you're not running an optimal Patriot deck without him. But I believe it. I totally believe that this card is going to remain as one of the top win rate cards in the game. And you know, interesting broods top cube. You got him as a, as a top winner and not shocked here. And that was number six.
That was number seven. And notably is that there's only one bonafide Patriot card that's above it. And so it's the opposite of Shuri, where Shuri seems to like lift everyone else. Patriot's like, no, no, no. You all stay down there. I'm the king, right? Like, it's kind of interesting how that works. But number six is a card that honestly I was super surprised to see this high, but it makes perfect sense.
Spider Man. The newly redesigned Spider Man comes in at six cozy, a 60. 5 percent win rate, and honestly, a 10. 4 percent share of the meta. That's a lot. That was way higher win rate than I expected, and a way higher meta share than I expected too. Probably because of the silky smooth style list. But Elsa Bloodstone. Like, this is a card that loves Elsa Bloodstone too. So like, Spider Man, like, the rework has paid dividends.
They perfectly nailed it. The redesign of this card. I mean, seriously, they made him fun to play, it's Spider Man. He works with the move package, like you said. I feel like I don't see him all that much. Obviously, he's in that package, and he does work with Elsa. So, he is like the shock to me. That's on the winner rate side of things. Especially because when he first came out, I remember people were like, Oh no, like, he comes with the con of not knowing where he's gonna go.
It's like, who cares? He does what he does well. He just he man, the guy disrupts. You could consider putting him in a toxic build for Pete's sakes, because of what he does. For disruption. So that's insane.
Absolutely. Yeah. He pulls something into another location, might mess up their play. Absolutely. And I like that. You know, you pull the Angela away from everything they're kind of zooming into, or you, you pull Angela into a location with like three cards already or whatever, or into like you know, a flooded location or a sanctum or whatever, and the Angela is just sitting there like, Hey, I can't do anything. A hundred percent. There's a lot of like.
Tech elements to Spider Man, which I really like. And actually on that note, it does mess up some Bloodstone type plays because like it might pull like it messes up Ant Man. Ant Man's making a lot of the Bloodstone based lists. And now all of a sudden there's not four cards there. Right. And if it's turn six, then like, what are you going to do? So moving on number five. Now this is a flex on my part because this is a card. I know you already know which one I'm going to talk about.
It's the Patriot one. It's the only Patriot card that was higher. The card that I've added to my top 10 on occasion because of these immense, amazing stats. Cozy's already bringing it up. It's Ultron, the king of robots. Ultron comes in at number five, 60. 6 percent win rate, but only. Just slightly less than a percentage of the meta. Ultron from a meta perspective has fallen off. But it's win rate is incredible.
I think this is because in Patriot, like you have these other Patriot lists that are becoming so common. The Patriot Absorbing Man Brood style list. The Lad Sinister stuff. Straight up Ultron, it's not seeing play. And in advance of this recording, I was playing some Patriot Ultron and like... I don't think people were respecting me dropping Ultron on turn 6, which I'm like, how, how do you not see me playing Ultron here?
Like, is it, is it falling out of grace so much that Ultron's slowly turning back into a surprise card? That can't be possible, right?
Yeah, one of the first decks outside of, I think it was the day after Elsa came out, is I whipped together good old surprise Ultron, yet again. Why not, right? Like, you're having like, it all stemmed from Dazzler for me. I'm like, if I'm playing Dazzler, I'm gonna play Ultron. Like, why not? Just get that immediate boost. And now you're playing, what, up to an 11 power Ultron, if you, you know, play the cards right? Love it, dude. I think he's definitely it sums up his card so perfectly.
Low play rate, high win rate. That's how we want Ultron to be. Yeah, would you put him in your top ten? Cards in the game? No. I love him.
I'm never gonna live that down, eh? I mean, I'm just, it's just funny. Listen, I like Ultron. I've always been an Ultron believer. Number four. Number four. We break away from Patriot. We go to the genre defining cards, and this is one that I know frustrates people, but it's just, this is high evolutionary. High Evolutionary, which is kind of fascinating because you don't play High Evolutionary and High Evolutionary. It's like the card you don't want to play.
But High Evolutionary at 61 percent win rate, 10. 8 percent of the meta. 10. 8 percent of the meta is high for this. It's high. High Evo, I think is a very polarizing deck. I think the, the anger towards Alioth and some other cards are kind of taking a little bit of heat off High Evolutionary, but it's still an amazing deck. It still performs incredibly consistent across ladder and conquest. The stats don't lie. It's the fourth highest.
So are these stats based off in deck, not when played? This is in deck, yes. Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah yeah, I mean, I feel bad, like, there's cards that people just want to hate because they hate and it's high evo. Like, I think he's in a fine place. The Alliath is causing some hate towards the high evo way because It just works in the locked down version of things, right? But yeah, dude, single handedly, Hulk alone is just such a menace. He's so ridiculous, which I love.
Love having a big Hulk, you know? But High Evo is that kind of staple. I feel like he's good for the game in the sense of like, for those that don't want to like, try hard and learn these intricacies. He's a deck that takes some skill and you learn how to play it. And then you've got yourself an archetype that you can play.
I think it's fun to play. I really like, I've always liked high evolutionary and I'm, I'm just glad we, we told everyone, Hey, save up your tokens. This card is going to change everything. And sure enough, changed everything in legit sense. Yeah. Yeah. It was so excited. Then like two hours later, everyone was so pissed off, but.
Shadow King works by the way, against Hulk. I want to get that out there. He's a great way to just tame the Hulk. You know, maybe you won't get them out of the Hulk smash, but you can, you can tame them. And that's a massive power swing for two costs. I don't know if people remember they got rid of the ongoing effects or just something, something to throw out there.
I've forgotten at times that the ongoing effect is no longer an ongoing effect, even though it kind of feels like an ongoing effect.
Even though it is an ongoing effect, you're right.
Yeah. Number three. Now this one should come to no surprise. This card has been nerfed like 15 times, buffed times too. It's been up and down left and right. But one thing it's always been is red. It's red skull. Red skull is 61. 4 percent win rate, 6. 3 percent of the meta. Now this is pretty stock Shuri stuff. Now, now we're into like, okay, now we're just talking Shuri. And so a red skull is going to be the top three card. Now I just, in fairness here.
I'm going to round out the top three and then we'll discuss them. Okay. Because there's going to, you're going to see a bit of a pattern. Number two, I would never have guessed this is Typhoid Mary, Typhoid Mary at 61. 75 percent of the meta. And number one, Cozy Vindicated. We've talked about this card before how no one is upset about this card. The highest win rate card in Marvel Snap, Tyron, 62%, 5 percent of the meta. Now we're going to talk about all three together. That's the top three.
But I think you're going to notice there's a bit of a consistent line here. So I'm going to leave it to you, Cozy. What do you think about Sauron, Typhoid Mary, and Red Skull?
It's like one of the easiest decks to snap when you play Sauron. You know the Ebony Maw... It's one of my favorite components of the deck because of being under the Shang Chi 1 1 7 range, right, being a 7 power card. The fact that it works in your hand and deck, like, that's what's so damn good. So draw really doesn't matter. You could play him. You obviously want to play him on 3.
He's one of those cards you've got to play on 3 because then you could Sherry, then you can, you know, Red Skull, then you can Tazmat, whatever you're trying to do. But also, like, you don't have to go that route. You can also get a little bit more greedy. I'll say Typhoid. It's a shock, shock she's that high because of the significant con that she comes with. I guess if it's in the deck though, like yeah, that makes, that does make sense.
But yeah, this is this is a great deck that I think is is plenty beatable nowadays. It's plenty beatable But it's it's it's good. It's it's damn good and it's fearful and I think red skull I I'm glad he's back where he should be too.
What fascinates me about this is that shuri got nerfed People stopped playing Shuri. It completely fell off the map. I remember, there were multiple podcasts that you and I were like, Yo, like, this card is being unbelievably slept on. Like, this is a good card. Why is nobody playing Shuri? To the point that I was playing Shuri and I'm like, I don't even feel bad anymore. Like, we've told you this card's good. And then, sure enough, it started coming back.
And now, legitimately, it's, it's, It has a strength hold on the top 10.
This is why I said my whole pitch about a 6 4 life. It's the psychological effect of a nerf. Like, that's one of the things I think I want to test with him first. Because it's like, sure, yeah, it was still great. But, there's something about when a car gets nerfed, that people just stop playing it more. And I think that Alive maybe needs that aspect to kind of calm him down. But, yeah, sure, nothing's changed. In fact, it got better because of Vision. And now Elsa fits in there.
So, yeah, definitely one of the more straightforward decks to play. The ones that I run against. Quite often and if I'm having a huge bad string of games, I will resort to my sureness if I need to.
I will resort to it. Fine choice of words there, my friend. The one thing we'll close this little topic on is that a liath, which is not in the top 10 for those that are interested is running a 58. 9 percent win rate. But I think what frustrates people right now is that it's 24 percent of the meta. It has a 24% like that's high. That's really high for a series five card. That's not even in the spotlights anymore.
So it's the same Galactus problem, right? Like Galactus, the stats were okay. If you looked at it, but it was, it was the play rate. And the, and the polarizing effect. Listen, when we had, I'm pretty sure on our Snapchat thumbnail I had on mine, it was like, a life is coming to be a nightmare and terrorize. Like, it wasn't just for the clicks. Like, it, we knew he was gonna bring this.
We're a month in now, and I think that's why people are getting a little, little, a little pissed, and I understand.
Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, that brings us to our next topic, which is going to be our favorite cards in October thus far now, October, it's only a couple of days without a couple of days. It's a week old. What am I talking? I just looked at my calendar a couple of days, but October has been very interesting because you have the release of Elsa bloodstone and thankfully Elsa has shifted the meta quite a bit. Okay. We're no longer in the locks of Loki. We got other stuff going on here.
So we're going to talk about our favorite cards. Early this season thus far, and this is actually one of my favorite conversations to have, especially when the meta shifts because I don't know about you, but I'm looking at my list and I have not talked about any of these cards in a very long time. So cozy, I'm gonna pass it off to you first one cost. What's your favorite one cost thus far in October?
Yeah, so it was narrow. It was close, closer than usual. It hasn't been long enough. Ask me again. It'll be Maria Hill. I actually love the two cost generation. Having the ability to grab a collector if you're playing a Loki deck or whatever. There's almost all good I mean, I've played the Wheel of Snap. There's almost all good 2 costs. A lot of them don't feel bad. You get the dagger, you get the Bucky Barnes every now and then. But more often than not, she has good value. It's Ghost Spider.
I've been talking about her earlier. I'm gonna have her as my favorite right now. I'm playing Toxic Decks. I'm enjoying what she's bringing. I'm really much enjoying it, and she works with Elsa, which is awesome, because you can now have a card that doesn't have the Nightcrawler effect, but you're able to boost it up, like a demon, or whatever, and then you just whip it on over to the lane that you need to win it with.
I'm liking what Ghostbriders brings to the game, and more often than not, she's a winner for me, so I've got her as a rare favorite card right now.
I cannot get over the fact that I've been roasted in the past for, for calling out multiple cards at a specific cost, and you just did it again, where you just said two of one cost.
Barely, it was just a little whisper. Because she just got buffed.
I get to
That's fair. Okay. I'll allow it. Yeah. What's your one cost?
My one cost has been Nightcrawler. Like, I, Nightcrawler's been so good. Especially with Elsa Bloodstone.
He's legit for sure, right? And Twist Drop too. Which was awesome. That's a cool variant. Yeah.
Yeah, everyone gets this really cool variant. It becomes relevant you know, shortly after the Twist Drops. And I mean, I just like it. And people aren't playing Killmonger anymore. So I feel like Nightcrawler gets to actually do his thing. And It's just, it's been a really nice surprise and it's integration with the the also bloodstone base decks is awesome.
Whether it's like the last card to go in to get buff, which is nice because obviously you have this mobile, you know, five power card, or if it's there and you're playing something else into it, like a case are, then you move the night crawler, I get to play something else in its ability to move obviously is extremely valuable here. And it's been my one drop of the of the month thus far.
Its ability. Of its ability. Like, it's true. Like, he I fell in love with him when I brought the Zoo deck to the Snapchat that one time. And I was like, oh, playing him with Pro X felt awesome. With only two power at that time. I was like, oh, I love that I can, like, cap off my X lane a little more. Now, like, the 1 5 is, is preposterous. And again, it's the time because Killmonger, he's sleeping, I guess. Yeah, you know, he's not out there nearly as much.
Because people want to play their own one cost cards, right? And that's why I would say, so good pick there. Definitely, definitely a hot pick right now. Two cost cards, Alex. Two costs, always the toughest, right? There's so many to pick from. This one was really tough. I mean, obviously, like, Mojo's... And you know what? No. I'm not going to go into, I'm not going to go into my spiel. You're going to give me crap. I'll just go right to the card. It's Shadow King still.
I didn't mention him last time. Shadow King right now, it's like, if you're not playing Shadow King in your list, you're missing out on a card that counters everything right now. Shuri Bounce Dex, Elsa Dex, Kitty, Destroy, you name it, Shadow King kills it.
Shadow King has been a remarkable tech card. I still feel like people don't respect Shadow King as they should. So it's often a surprise on turn six, which it really shouldn't be. Shadow King is series three. It's out there. It's a two, two drop. Now it's like, it should be prevalent. Right? I love that call. This is where I'm going to cheat a little bit. I'm going to give a special honorable mention here to Falcon. Finally, Falcon has felt good with the Elsa Bloodstone stuff.
Falcon has been a card that I feel like has seen almost no play. And so I have felt really kind of confident playing Falcon lately, especially in conjunction with cards that are getting buffed by Elsa Bloodstone. But my number two. You're going to be like, Alex, seriously, it's the even, it's an even bigger cheap. It's also, I had to add Elsa. Like I've actually loved this card.
I know it's a bit of a cop out here to say like, Hey, the season pass cards have been my favorite to drop in this past week where it was released. But seriously, like I've really, really liked Elsa. I think it's. It's a really good balance between an effective card and a fun card that has made Marvel snap better across the board.
And even if like, you're a pool one player and you just bought the season pass for the first time, it works well in like pool one Zudex because of nightcrawler and all those other, like, it just, it's kind of like. Indiscriminate of your collection level to some degree, obviously very like nuanced decks are going to have cards you might not have, but I think that everyone can make Elsa Bloodstone work.
It's been the first time I'm like really excited for the season pass variant too. I'm like, Oh, I can't believe we get that one for free. It's so sick. It's such a good, good looking variant. Three costs. Alex, listen, I tried to diversify in this one. I was looking around. I was like, I like so many at the moment. I mean, Green Goblin. I just. Talked about him. I could probably pick him. Dude. I'm doing it. It's like I hate repeating. I'm doing it. I have to die It's Jean Grey.
Jean Grey. I'll stick by her man. Why do I stick by her? Because yeah, finally she's getting some respect But God man with Elsa. It's what honestly it's just like You are trying to accomplish something with Elsa and Jean Grey is now adding to that and you already have the cards that she synergizes With with Nightcrawler and Jeff. I'm good I've been the fan since number one or since the very beginning and I'm gonna stand by it still love her She's in all my decks.
Still a chance that man things good with her, by the way Still a chance that there's something there. I have some bad news for you Cozy some real bad news I don't think Jean Grey is ever gonna love you back the way you love her I don't think we can we really add CozySmap to the Jean Grey love triangle of Wolverine and Cyclops. Does Cozy really, do you really compete there?
Not with those two, hell no. You can't, I could put my hair, I could look like one of them, but yeah, no. It, I don't, I don't know if I'd want to be a part of that that fest. But I do love her. I love her on the side. I can't tell Arrow. But she's, she's up there in my love. Elsa too, heh. I'm starting to stack up the waifus.
I love her on this side might be the most ridiculous comment you've ever made on this snap. Probably. What's your three drop? I actually can't believe you didn't pick my three drop. I thought for sure you were going to pick the same one. Like, well, if you didn't pick Jean Grey, what would you have picked? I did this, so. Cause you, it's mine. What does it say? You've talked about her like four times already this podcast. Come on, she's a 3 2.
Oh, she's a 3 2.
Think of, think of like I don't know like Taylor Swift. Oh yeah, Dazzler. Yeah, I love Dazzler. I can't believe you didn't say Dazzler.
Oh, I love her. She's not my favorite card this season, but like I finally get to play. Dude, it feels so good. Again, love the guy. Binx had me on his stream and Binx has crapped on me about Dazzler and loving Dazzler for months. I mean, there's 10 videos about it and you know what? I used her against him and it felt great. It felt glorious because you can play her now because you have multiple, you finally have like multi synergy working together with Dazzler. Is that why you picked her?
Hey, no, it's just simply because like it works so well in the Bloodstone based decks. It's just. Like, I feel like Zoo is back to some degree with Bloodstone. And so, like, I think part of it's that, listen, this is a personal list. I have not had a chance to play Dazzler that much. There was that moment where, like, in Silver Surfer, like, there was some chance that she was good. But now she's good. Like, I don't care what people say. Dazzler is legit. Like, I'm not sitting at 3 2 Dazzlers.
Like, Dazzler is getting bigger than would be expected. With very little downside. Yeah. Pretty reliably. The only thing that's messed me up on occasion has been Spider Man. Spider Man has sometimes split up. Boards, which I did not expect, but that's what Spider Man does. But Dazzler as a whole has been a really pleasant surprise this first week of October and it's, it's my number three. I've, I've really enjoyed it.
Yeah. I love any car that you can boost power later is what I love about it. Like I love putting her in a lane and then you could boot. Like I had again, why I have her in that surfer deck that I was losing my mind about is because you can Jean and then Dazzler and you're like, Oh no, you've filled your lane, but you can boost up the Dazzler and you could surfer. So it's like a double boost to said lane. Love it, buddy.
Four cost card is by far, this is a four cost card I have never picked, ever, while doing this. And it's for the deck style that she brings. Moongirl is my four cost card of the month. Double up decks, double Elsa is cracked. If you haven't played it, give it a shot. I love it to death. I've played it so much. Sandman, obviously hard counter. But having anything that's in that deck multiple times, I'll take it. I'll take double Nightcrawlers, I'll take double Jeffs, double Elsa.
Having plus six, you can play it so late, it doesn't matter. Having plus six, dude, on your Kitty Pryde, on your Jeff Nightcrawlers is busted. And it's, it's by far my favorite interaction.
How dare you flex this amazing variant, golden moon girl, golden border, red Kirby crackle. Just perfect with the dinosaur in the background. This is, I'm actually insulted at how good this variant is and even matches are like display on the screen too. Like it's, this is like beautiful. I'm in, I'm in shock.
It was, it was one of those. I was like, I was, I was sad that it was moon girl of all variants. And then I was like, ah, dude, I play her enough. Does that make sense? What is your forecast?
Okay. You talked about picking a card that you've never picked before. I'm going to hit you with something. That's absolutely, you would never have guessed in a million years. And I've been playing. So when I'm just chilling, I'm playing C5 right now, which sounds dumb, but I've been joining C5 and it's staggy. Yes. Stag run. I listened. Nobody, nobody in their right mind expects me to play stagger on nobody. Turn six playing staggy feels so good. Sometimes you just met them.
Like what just happened? Like it is so fun to play. I've been really enjoying Stegron, like I know like it's this kind of silly, but it's like I've actually been having fun. Forkast sometimes feels weird for these, like, favourites, cause like they're, it's kind of like weirdly niche, but I don't care, man. I've enjoyed Stegron so much, and I just hope more people will be able to get their hands on him soon, because I think he's maybe, I don't want to say he's good. I don't know if he's good.
I think he's good because he's never expected. If he's in more players hands, then the effect might be more anticipated. I don't think he sounds good. But I've been having a hell of a lot of fun with him.
Make him a three cost second hitter. Do it. Do it. I would love it. Five cost is kind of more difficult as well, right? I think we can always struggle in the five cost zone. It's... Nah, I'm just kidding. It's not Spider Man. It's... Dude, almost. I almost thought about it. No, dude, it's got to be Spider Woman. I was talking about her.
Same here, buddy. Is it? Tell me. Tell me why. Tell me why. First of all, it's a card that didn't see much play. And so anytime I get a chance to play with cards that have not been seeing much action, like, I feel rejuvenated It's fun, again. Like, you forget about these cards that, like, you might have been playing traditionally. And honestly, it's just, she's good. She's just good.
And like, it's like what you said prior, the idea of like a five, eight with upside, it never really steers you wrong. Luke Cage is prevalent. That's always gonna be a factor. Every card has the, you know, the counter, but honestly, like she just feels really good. And I think the number of decks that she's being applied to is increasing, which is nice to see. And over the next two months, I think she's going to gain in prevalence. Thanks to the increase of toxic synergistic cards.
Yeah, without question, dude. Love her. I mean, we broke her down so much on my side. Six costs! Kind of like, I don't feel good about picking any six cost cards. Like, I'll be honest.
Oh my god, that's exactly what I wrote! I wrote none! Kouji, I wrote none!
Like, they're all good! Dr. Doom, Alioth, right? It's like, yeah, we've talked about these so much and they haven't changed all that much. Like, arguably, Spectrum ongoing decks with Mobius now is actually becoming a thing that's decent. So I was going to give my shoutout to that. I don't think we talked about this on the cards I won buffed. Maker66, I think is perfect for what she does. This is it.
This is the only new one that I'm playing, like, SheHulk I want to love right now, but damn does Mobius just sl Like, I'm playing these double up decks, right? And I'm trying, I'm trying And honestly, you could put her in the double up deck, and she still works, because like, they're not always going to play Mobius. But it's like, damn, like, you know, she dies with him. So, you know, just a shout out to that. But yeah, Spectrum would be, would be my sixth guy.
I love that we felt the same here, though.
Yeah, like, I wrote none, but I had a fallback. And my fallback was Dr. Doom just because I like playing it. But even, like, Magneto has felt weird because of the amount of Board filling that's happening. Like the board States is like extremely constrictive. So you can't actually disrupt that often with Magneto in my, in my experience thus far, because like you, it's like, Oh, they filled the location. Mysterio just came down. Nothing's actually moving.
And it made me realize just how impactful the on reveal effect of Magneto was. Earlier, Alex would have said the 12th power was enough and that the movement of the cards was kind of just a bonus or whatever, but the last couple of weeks has really illustrated to me that like, no, like the, the effect of Magneto was extremely important because now that the board states are more for more full, he's not having the impact he used to have.
Yeah, no, I agree. I think honestly, the guy in the middle here, man thing, Magneto might be a decent way to move him into a lane that doesn't help him. But. Yeah, the, the, the bo the boards are twofold. Is, is flat out, right. He's not even being played in a ramp at the moment. Eith would just kill him anyway, so, yeah, always good to do the favorites. And maybe we'll do it at the end of the season since it's a long one and we can kind of circle back.
Yeah. I like the idea of like doing like, kind of like an early impressions one, then like a closer Yeah. I, it's just, it's just a fun conversation's one of, and I think that's what the Snapchat's all about at the end of the day. Having fun with my boy Cozy. I want to say also thank you so much everybody for the support that you give both Cozy and I on our content. It is truly heartwarming and remarkable.
Guys, hopefully you enjoyed this episode of the Snapchat. Next week is our 50th episode. Absolutely wild, and cannot wait to get to that. Alex, another great episode, buddy. Until next time, as always, Happy snapping.