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It's a lay that. This is thing. If it did even a reasonable job, I would... I would like it more than most people because it had the thing I like in it. Yeah? But my main hypothesis is this they did the same thing. The season of 24 of Simpsons are the same thing they did to wrestling as they did everything. And that they've made a very low effort lazy episode because they don't wanna actually... They made it all better by saying, this takes place
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This week's episode is gorgeous grandpa. Episode ra ABF06 originally aired 03/03/2013 written by Matt Selma directed by check sheets. Written by Matt Selma, Matt. Matt Salmon. And nope. Nope. Why why no, Robbie? Nope. We're get to it. I I could... Matt, it's I could talk for out. I mean, like, I love professional wrestling. Okay. Love it. Have a whole life, and I could talk for hours. I'm gonna try and keep it to bit concise. Okay? That's
my goal. I'm not gonna limit myself, not talk about pro wrestling in relation to this episode. I'm am gonna try and keep it on topic and concise. Mh. Received a 2.5 rating with 4700000.0 viewers, the Wikipedia says there's a couch gag. It says that the Simpsons family and several second secondary characters do the quote unquote, homer shake, meaning the Harlem shake. But in... On Disney plus, where I watched it, there is no couch gag whatsoever. So oh, really interesting. I wonder why they
removed it. I don't know. I honestly have no idea. Oh boy. Okay. And the matt also, for an episode that's about pro wrestling, this first act. This in endless inside incident that is It takes forever and is so stupid. I just... It's it it is... Like, I know how much more time they would have do fun interesting things. If it wasn't for this incredibly long and say, 7 minutes and 45 seconds until we find out what this episode actually about. You can just
Okay. Here we go. So we start with homer criticizing Lisa for reading and says Tvs better. So Lisa just goes okay. They start watching Tv. We get an endless montage a very quick reality Tv show, gag, fake reality Tv show, pla, basically, title cards with Lisa going. Oh, no,
really? Seriously, Like, that's it for, like, good 20 seconds of this, then they end up on storage battles, which is they the fake show making fun of the the different storage war shows where people auction sight on scene on on storage. On on abandoned, storage lots, and then try an auction sell the stuff they find inside. Have you ever watched 1 of these shows, Matt? No. I have been forced to watch
certain segments of them by... The... Mostly by them being in waiting rooms somewhere nearby Oh, look story horses on and back to my phone, but I have seen them p a lot because turns up they're bad. I mean, that's the thing, like, I again, I have also been... It's more of... I've never watched them. I've been subject to them. I've been I've been in a room where they have been on, and I've, like, done my best to ignore them. But I hope you like storage war
parodies because this episode has... This full first act is a lot of it, and then you get multiple weird fourth wall breaking things where we get fake half card, like advertisements, dropped later in the episode multiple times, advertising the fake storage battle show. And I don't know why they do this. I don't understand funny, Robbie, of course. There's multiple... There's multiple fourth while bringing things in this, back. And I hate every single 1 of
them. Not... And these and these are fourth wall breaking things. And then there's on top of that, multiple self preferential things where Burns talking about writing a song about, like, it's it's all the worst. If it's like, look, we did. Look at us. Aren't we cool. Look, we the thing week we just did in this episode. Good job. Congrats. Do you wanna you wanna applause? You want a cookie? Like, that's what it feels like. So They watch storage battles. This is a long parody.
You... It's the worst thing in the episode, which is saying something. So we now homer or decides, basically just like, oh, now I'm gonna do this. This is gonna be my wacky, you know, pursuit my wacky hobby this week. His home are gonna be going into storage battles. Is... I mean, I'll say that they at least abandon it. It doesn't become a running Gag, I guess in this episode. But they they bid alongside everyone in town is also doing this. Every side character you recognize.
Okay. And Home ends up bidding a thousand dollars for a storage unit. Okay, ma'am. 1 thing at a title. I know. 1 thing at a time, I'm gonna I'm gonna... Okay. So they win and, oh, Matt, it's important to know. Matt notes this our notes that the whole bids with their signature noises, which is, I guess the thing they do in storage battles. They all have their own signature bid noise or something. I I... Use. I can't confirm in that because I have never really watched it, but
I assume it is. Referencing that. So they they bid. They win this unit. They spend time pretending that they're on a storage wars Tv show because they appeal to a camera that isn't there. Okay. So they open up the storage unit, and they find that it once belonged to grandpa. We spent a thousand dollars on a bunch of old boxes. You won't be laughing when these boxes are full of priceless list treasures. I wasn't laughing. I was being worried.
Further they're bo. Principal of hand mirrors. Pump up perfume spritz. Makeup and baby oil. Tights? Robes. Oh, that's stupid luck or must have belonged to some old lady. Property of Abraham J Simpson. This is grandpa stuff. Why would my man dad have lady stuff. That's not all lady stuff. Look at all these fitness publications. Beef cake megs. I think your dad might be gay. Oh, that's insane. My dad was married to a woman who left him because he ignored needs for decades. Oh, my cake is game.
1, badge the coincidence they happen to get abs storage lock which he has apparently forgot to pay for because that's how these lockers get on these terrible. 2, the everything that stuff might be mona that he just stuffed it in there when she moved away. No... That's all that. They immediately jumped to o, 8 is gay. Matt, this is here because they wanted to write k jokes. That's it. I'm shocked. That's all this is. Because you don't need any of this to get
to. If you wanna get to, grandpa wants once a famous wrestler. That's stupid they shouldn't do it. But if you wanna get there, it's so easy. There's so much faster ways. They're like, they wanted to write jokes about storage wars. They wanted to write gay jokes. And they... Like, this is the first sign of many that this is not written by a wrestling fan. Not right by somebody who knows anything about comedy. To put that on the box, man. Let's just put that on the box.
Not written by anyone who knows anything. And this is Matt Summon You like think that, like, oh, yeah. He know he he knows what he's doing. Like these are just like, oh, grandpa have closet gay man, but kept all of this stuff Why? Why did he keep it? Like, why did he keep it in his storage locker? Why he throw it away or rid of it? Yeah. If he's... If he is wants to hide at all, it's all nonsense... It's all bat. Like, everything
and, like, what you said? Like this massive coincidence that they just happen to find 1 it, you could easily just be rooting through grandpa's stuff and they find a key to a storage locker. That makes it more like, it makes a little bit somewhat more sense. Like, oh, they actually... It is in Grandma's possessions. Not They randomly bid on 1 of thousands of units, and they got grandpa. Okay. Whatever. These we overlook.
That in the whole, like, of mistaken gay thing because they wanted to write gay jokes. Wanna just go to Abe and ask, hey, why do you have all this weird stuff? Because because... Oh, because again, matt, they wanted to write again, I I keep saying this every week. This is like three's company jokes. Every week. Like, like, every week, they are
writing these, like, threes come... Like, the bid about three's company is that he is pretending to be gay so that you can live with female roommates because that's the only way it's acceptable. Right. And that is what level of humor we're at right now where it's just like, We're gonna oh, he's wearing tights. Somebody has he's his beef cake mag. Okay. Okay. So we get Homer and March, now having this discussion like world discussions of scenes
of them talking about grandpa being gay. This episode is about grandpa once being a wrestler here. This is what at least the episode theoretically wants to be about, matt. It is about Grandpa's once a b. He was a bad guy. He was a heel of villain. And he didn't like playing a villain, so he stopped. He quit wrestling altogether. And now he starts again, and then Bart realizes it's fun to be a heel and starts mis. And so grandpa,
does his best... And and in the family, once part not to be a bad guy. Doesn't want aim to act like a villain. Okay. They do a bad job of that, but at least I understand it.
Why do we have 7 minutes of this wishy washy nonsense about worrying a gram us gay or not about them virtue signaling bert at 1 point makes a joke about them first virtue signaling is Matt inc says in our notes, which they are considering even in the very recent past, the simpsons sense have made some ab h, homophobic jokes, and ab trans jokes, which apparently they have we're gonna... I I did not realize this, but in, 1 of our
common group, it's... They it they actually, over dubbed the the, a trans joke in this episode. To make it really Yes to make it less offensive, which I guess is I'm, I guess I'm glad they did that, but just don't... You don't need to have it. And that's what it is. It feels like, oh, we wanna... Again, these episodes where they're like, oh, we're so progressive. Look at us, but then you're just, like, you're having these episodes about, like, Marge wanting grandpa it'd be
gay. Why? Because... Oh... She talks she could compares him to a dog. And you're like, Is this a joke on them? Is this a joke of marge? Or is a joke on about gay people? Because if it's a joke about Marge and homer and about them being stupid for being, you know, steroid per stereo typing. Okay. I'm all for that. But I don't think this is what... I I feel like they sometimes do that. And then sometimes they're are like, no. Actually, we just think it's funny that people are
gay. Just wanna make jokes about gay people. And you're like, okay. Cool. And when... You what you know about Gorgeous George the wrestler who this grandpa's is based on in this episode. Mh. It... I think maybe that's another reason I'm harder on this episode than probably most people would be met. Because I know about Gorgeous storage. I know about this 50 wrestlers. I know about the harmful gay stereotypes and wrestling
over the a lot just... It's, like, taken to, like, the past 5 years for it to stop. And it is very strange to me that you include it in this episode as, like, funny jokes. So, like, oh, isn't it funny? We think Grandpa's gay, no. He was a pro wrestler. And you're like, okay. So We have them talking about. Is Grandpa gay. We need to help grandpa. We need to make it accept who we really is. And you're like, is this what this episode is gonna be about? This episode about them
thinking Grandpa's was gay. What? So they posted a personal land on the internet is abe, which is again, another just they had to joke, throwing a a classified ad for ad for abe in casual encounters at a park, How are we still talking about this? We're 50 minutes into the episode We're still talking about Act 1? Sorry, Matt. It's It's me. Blame me. It's my fault. So Smith shows
up. We have Smith is showing up for this ad with for grandpa, And grandpa's confused, homer marge hiding, watching all this happen they come out and then burns shows up revealing the grandpa actually was once a very famous professional wrestler. Are you wrinkled and romantic? What the heck are you talking about spectacle. Oh, I've been hung up on someone for years, but I'm trapped in the friend zone. It's time for me to move on. So
move on. You're blocking the ducks. Don't you wanna be happy abe and miss who you are? A wonderful game man But what? I don't alright sides channel. I'm straight as a submarine. And how do you explain this? Oh Hello smith. Fancy you and casual and cutter perk. Your glamorous godfrey. Mh Glamorous godfrey was the most famous wrestler in the world, and you are he. Is this true? Be whose. Look at all this Rust Crap. Fine. I watch clam godfrey free. What's wrong? I so wanted him to be gay.
On fe e day. I kissed a man by mistake. Thank you. What why am I... Yep. What is going on? III wish I could tell you why Anyone thought this was a good joke. So, okay. It is revealed that Grandpa was a famous world famous. They say matt. World famous professional wrestler named Glorious Godfrey. So so Grandpa has been a world famous wrestler. World famous singer. Let's see What else it be world famous fine. As least but thinks is home, it
seems like, He's also war veteran. Like, it's just again, you just, like, layering on all of this craziness. It's so glorious Godfrey and burns is and was and is a huge fan. All of the... These are all revealed in those this last 15 seconds of this act. We go to commercial 7 minutes and 46 seconds. And when we come back, there is an info dump, what exactly all this means babe. You were a world famous wrestler. Spill the beans old man. Word beans. Alright. I'll tell you. It was the 19 fifties.
Oh, those things. It was the heyday of pro wrestling. You could make good money if you were the manly mixture of strong and fat we called Keep. Good guys. We're called baby faces. Back, guys were called heels. Hi was the king of the heels. Glamorous godfrey free. How dare. That was drinking no. I'm not always was always cheap. That's the thing that really drove them crazy was my fantasy. You are the luck people in the world. Feel good to look at me. Real paul, you really original bad boy. Yeah.
I was boast before all your football show voters rep music in Tv beach Italians. But there was a downside to being hated, being hated. Well, I just couldn't take it He despise was no way to live. So, yes. We learned that abe was a heel, resident in the fifties, which would make him about 9 years old this point, but whatever sliding times go. I... And at this point. Go ahead Robbie. Man. Mh. I have a question for you. Is this episode treat wrestling professional wrestling like it's real fights?
Not at all. You sure this episode treat... I mean, as far as I can tell he's literally pointing out that he... In in in this bit here. We see there was a match where he was giving a, you know, a spa treatment in the middle of the ring. Yes. I think... I understand that, Matt. But Again, maybe it's just because I'm super close, and I know about wrestling I've listening to people... I'm listening to real progress talk about real pro wrestling, you know, Mh Non in k, but not in character.
And theoretically, Grandpa is not in character here. He's not in character. He'd be out of character. He'd be talking about playing this guy. Mh. Playing Gorgeous glorious godfrey. And he talk... But he never says, like, oh, yeah. They he doesn't talk about being having being booked to win matches. He doesn't talk about... Yeah, I played a villain. He doesn't talk like a human would speak. When they're talking about playing a character is how I... Like, That's why I'm like, it
doesn't really say no, oh, yeah. These are real fights. We actually... And, obviously, the way it portrays the fights in the animation is clearly they're not real. But grandpa himself never talks as if they aren't real in it creates this insanity in me. Where I'm like, this isn't how humans talk Grandpa. Hey, Simpsons writers. This isn't how humans, how professional wrestlers when they're not in character talk. They talk about how they openly say, yeah. Of course.
Yeah. I'm a play a villain and I play a heal. So I, yeah, I cheat a lot. I I use heal... I use Villainous heal tactics as they say, that, you know, you use foreign objects to to to to hit people with chairs and things like that. And I cheated all the he says, I cheat all the time. And then I got talk... But he doesn't say, and, like, that is As a wrestling fan. It is intrinsically interesting for me to hear A guy going. Yeah. I played a villain for a long time.
I got really tired of it because everyone treated me like a Villain when I wasn't working. Even though he was wearing the wig all the time, pick the wig Yeah. Gram. Pick the wig off and don't even know you're there. Exactly. I mean, like, put on, like, try and hide yourself a little bit. So that, like, that is not... That appeals to me That goes oh, it's interesting. I play a character. The lines between kay and reality and wrestling are 1 of the reasons I love for
wrestling. It's so interesting watching these people try and balance like, character, in a live live situation and have to, you know, do, you know, a staged combat, Like, it's all super interesting. All of this multiple layers and stuff makes makes it interesting to me as a fan. But instead, they're just like, oh, I got tired to be in a heel so I left. And you're like, what? What do you mean the it's it's like they never established
firmly established. They gram on nose that it's a a fake fight that is staged. It's always, oh, I love to cheat, and Was a heel that I got tired of it. Like, okay. But and like... I mean, it that is 1 way to look at it. I is so obvious to me that this is fake and that he is playing a heal. There are heels and baby faces. And why would you have those characters if everyone was playing to win? I don't understand like why would you would slice up your your character base. I him
to talk about it, Man. Okay? I don't... Like, it's it is odd... Like, I'll get back to this. Everyone who... The moment that you start real... The moment you realize that Santa claus isn't real, is also the same time when you realize professional wrestling, it's not a real is not real combat, that it is choreographed. Ever No fan real... Thinks it's real unless they're a small little child, a little baby. Mh. Maybe some babies thinks it's so real. But any adult fan knows it's not real.
I just want the wrestlers the grandpa, really? And I don't think... And mister Burns also never be... It's, like, I'm a, I am a fan in that. So I am... If I have the money burns his hat... Burns has. There's a... We see his, like, wrestling room later on his trophy room. I'd have a room just like that. I don't... The way that Burns Ax is not the way Wrestling fans act. That's another... Like, it's just... There's no want authenticity in
this. This is very clearly we have a very thin idea for an episode. Mh. And let's... Like we had this idea that that Grandpa at. Like, Okay. So we're getting into this way early. But I see... Well, I see a core of a really good episode. I think you do too from what you said Like, this
could go really well. You could have, you know, bart get really into the character that Abe played and abe realized o, we need to deal with this because Bart is a kid and as a 10 year old is a little old, but has trouble separating what is the character from what is, you know, a a good way to act in real life and they have to come up with some way to get that across it. That is a good core of an episode.
The way they go about it as Robbie has pointed out is mean to pro wrestling and it's just not very good. You they get to this in the very very end, and it's just like a is flipped and act 4. Like, oh wait, everything's okay again. I was like it's all it's all nonsense. And, yeah, there's no And maybe if they didn't spend 7 minutes about elon gay jokes, you could have some... A little bit the better conclusion. Maybe. Maybe that... That's just my idea. Yes. Yeah.
So, anyway, well, so Abe has now explained it. Burns takes Abe about to dinner to, you know, get some stories told him about the good old days, and Bart beg to go along with it, which whom we're reluctant accepts when Bart promised him his promises home or his dessert. Anyway, so Apes tells burns a bunch stories and it's happy about it is it happy to relive the old days, but he says, you got really old being, you know, hated all
the time. So we now get a song from burns about how great villains are, half of which is just him naming Villains. So here you go. Don't really care for chasing women never was keen booze. Don't take cooking. No mary jane. No. I get drink on booze. That's B00S, not z before. We get it. Because you've got too low to be find the food being bad. Oh, the crowd is full of gentleman, but they've paid to see the cad. Yes. It's a hoo, The kick a guess when you're the feeling
soul. Once you wear black. You'll never go back it's a high to be Chuck stella, Mega, eric donkey kong, need 7 degree, terminator 1 2 and 3 y jungle boom. Mag and and center. Mister Burns and scarlet it toward, Keep your good guys what a nor when it's your ahead. They wanna settle and joke blood they want to shed. You know you're gonna live forever if everybody once you did. So we'll send up because I'm given the best guys do ever know so feel the thrill. I know you will.
It's a high to be I'll feel like I'll live forever. As long as everybody wants me did. Okay, pence. Glamorous got free will wrestle again. And so now we are are fully into our plot. Abe is gonna wrestle again. Burns is gonna be the 1 to set it all up, and a very short act to goes to commercial. I get all... I get both long acts to Matt. Like, it's is bruno. I know it's rough. It's just brutal. And this, again, this bird song is like, he's like, oh, yeah. Villains are great. Okay. That is... It's
different... This is different than a pro a a heel pro... Like, I could... I I mean, I could write a freaking dis rotation about this. But the song is not bad. I'll say that. The song is not bad. It's better than a lot of recent songs. I'll say that for the Simpsons. That are slightly sung by the central characters, our cast members, not you know, they've brought in a lot of, like, supporting characters to sing songs lately, not, like, guess, sporting characters.
So we haven't gotten actually a lot of, like, main cast member songs. Mh. At least 1 very good ones. And this is not bad it is a lot of, like, we didn't start the fire style. Just, like, here's a bunch of villain names that Rhyme. Okay. Cool. And throwing mister Burns in there. Is this what we're doing? Apparently. Let me just reference our own show. And there's a core here, Matt where again, you could...
I foresee a very different episode... If you wanna make a professional wrestling Simpsons that I've said, where grandpa was a heel there's a way different story you could tell. And you could... Like, it had the same core of Grandpa and bart stuff. Most wrestlers I... I... You hear love playing heels because it's easy. You and you get to... And you just get... You just have to be go out there, be a jerk. And most of them are not bad people in real life. They're
very kind or just normal. They live normal lives, so they go out on stage. They are jerks for a little bit and they go backstage and they're normal again. They're not always heels, but, you have to again, the way you interact with that is so different than the way they talk about in this episode. It is it is so obvious that no 1 in the show was ever actually. Watched or engaged with pro wrestling. So we go. I mean I guarantee you everyone has watched personally. And maybe even engage with it.
They haven't studied it the way you have. I mean, you... I I would say they're not been a fan of it. That's what I. They have not they have not not a fan about it. Certainly not as an adult either. Like, there's a difference we did. Yes. Is it... When you're 8 year old Washing Macho man, it's different thing than when you're 35 watching the Macho man or or, you know, his modern counterparts, We come back from commercial 12 minutes and 34 seconds. This third act. Who boy at. So this is burns
And this, I would also say matt... This idea is not introduced. The this... The... What becomes the centerpiece of the share of this episode, basically. Like this idea that burns is now hosting, like, old tiny wrestling events with old wrestlers, Old famous wrestlers. So it's... It it just happens. It's just start hap... We're just, like, we are just suddenly watching a wrestle again. And largely, that's not what they... Like, most of the time the rest aren't... These old
guys are wrestling. They they appear at conventions and do, like, photo ops with people for money, or sick they sign autograph. They sign toys. They sign belts. They don't actually wrestle because their bodies are broken down. No 1 wants to see them wrestle anymore. But they're wrestling. We're watching... And it's all old people and attendance as well. What is happening. Okay. Again, there's a point at which in this episode. I believe Carl says This is why we go to these things You never know
what's gonna happen. I guess that's true for everything in springfield. Like, they only show up at the very last shows it's all old people audience answer these first couple we see. So There's... But the old people in this in this, like, aid, the golden age of Wrestling show, and most most... The wrestlers are falling asleep in in the match. Abe is as good as he's ever been Lisa in bart and Lisa they're watching as well and Bart is enjoying a being heel.
And Lisa goes why do you wanna like, why do like this, and then he asked her why she likes Nelson's still. We... And we get a bit about Nelson tucking a half eaten ice cream sandwich in his rolled up sleeve, like a pack of cigarettes, which isn't in a bad site I'll say. So bart face being a heel is cool. Your behavior at that game was unacceptable. You're lucky they gave you your participant trophy. Got 1 just for watching the game. Listen getting people round up is what heels
do. Hill. Oh, no. Tell me you're not trying to be like grandpa. Well, sure I am. I always thought Grandpa was lame, but he's really awesome. Your grandfather is super lame. I mean, if he wasn't a terrible father, what's my excuse for this? I know your grandpa exciting now. But all that cleaning and cheating. Those turn index aren't gonna make them happy. So Bart plays baseball, Little League, and acts like a heel Wall he's playing baseball. Mh. And this is
where I get can... The this is this is another 1 of the reasons I ask, like, is this real or is is... There are they... Is the episode taking into account that professional wrestling is real or is this, like or it's choreographed if it's staged? Because what I think is going on here is that Bart obviously likes the attention that being a heel gets. And so he's trying to introduce it into his life, but he plays literally baseball. He
doesn't wrestle. And so I I think they understand, or at least everyone involved understand that Pro wrestling is obviously fake. Because Bart gets into it. There's a point coming up in the last act where bart says, where where abe tell tells Bar, hey, do you know your your moves? And bart like, yeah, I do this and it's in this. So it's obviously that everyone knows that it's fake, but Bart enjoys the attention so much that he is trying to do it in other aspects
of life. Where it obviously does not fit in. See, it works in literally league though, man. It works. Oh, him being a jerk. Yeah. I mean, him cheating. He cheat like he's He sprays perfume in someone's face. He throws it bad at someone's feet? Like, he gets on base. And when you say, oh, do you know your... Do you know your moves? Grandpa says he's, like, That's not again how you would engage with a choreographed wrestling match
because you're... You would be talking those things with the other team. The other team would be in this conversation. That's, like, again, like I mean, and I believe I fully believe that they are just, like, well, who cares what's not... We don't need act accurately portray the backstage environment of professional wrestling. But The people in wrestling matches talk about it beforehand? They go, what do you wanna
do tonight? You know, what's this... What what's the gonna be the story of our match? How much time do we have? What's the finish? Things like that? Do I expect them to do all that? No. But I do expect it to, like, if they want it to treat it, like, it's what it is, then show it like it is, at least a little bit. And I... I Matt... See, that's what I to going into this this episode. I have never watched this episode before. I've heard it about it a bunch obviously because I'm a
simpsons fan number a wrestling fan. People talk about. You've seen the wrestling episode. Like, no. And I knew... I mean this is this is like, this is even an a wrestling wrestling. This is about classic wrestling. Like you can't really compare with in the fifties to what they do today. I, there's some shared Dna, but it's this... Matt. Here's the thing. Here's the secret. It's very similar. Sure there's less curse words in the fifties, But it's relying on... It's
relying on the same... The match structure the same. The moves are maybe more more complicated now, but heels in the in baby faces to do the same things. It's like, it's a long line of tradition. It's not that work. It's not that more complicated than it it was then. They're doing, like, the same kind of, like, you... The same things work. People are the same. People are not that drastically different, and you you have the same kind of story arc through a match.
To build either, like, heat as they say on the heel to make you angry at them or to get you to cheer a baby face. It's all the same structure. Hasn't changed that much. In fifties right... Like, we're not even... Haven't even talked about the fact that if Grandpa was the most famous wrestler or the fifties, there's no way on earth the family wouldn't know by now. But no. We're gonna have to ignore all that. So
Bart is the Bad boy Little Lead. We have that Matt I I love Matt openly sign and the mentioned participation trophies. So stupid. They just so... They can't help themselves. Matt these are these are boomer jokes. This is been by Matt Selma. He's a Jan x. As far I know... As I know I don't know why they're doing these participation trophy jokes. They're so lazy, so hack. So Bart has been a bad guy. He's been playing a heal. And this is In my brain, Matt, this is the episode...
This is part of the episode where Grandpa goes part, I'm just playing a bad guy. I'm not actually a bad guy. I thought we're gonna do wreck Ralph. Right? It's gonna be the wreck ralph thing. Where it's like, no. I'm playing a bad guy. I'm not actually a bad guy and you have to separate those things, and it's not okay to just be a heel in real life. That's what I thought the lesson would be in this. It's okay to play heal, but you can't make this a part of your real character.
I can think of an interesting way to do that because, like, what's coming up is that you know, Bart goes to, homer goes to Abe and says, hey, Bart acting terrible like this, you need to talk to him. Instead, burns likes Bart, whole attitude says, hey, we'll do a team at match with somebody else. And Like, oh, Bart get involved this and see how much it sucks to be a heel in real life when everyone thinks you're a jerk. But they don't have time for that. No. Yes. We have a clip. I have a
clip of that, man. Homer is mat abe, and then burns stares at the camera and tells us that wrestling fans are stupid. Burn, I can't remember the last time I was so happy. You grandson ruining fee. Look what your number 1 fan did it show in tell. Who would filmed such a thing? It's found footage. Tell what? We could use another winner in this family. Who you a winner. You're cheating in a fake sport. Fake.
Ridiculous. If professional listing were fake. That would make every fan in the history of the sport who complete utter her moron. Mercy. You know, I've always had a keen eye for tiny talent. Perhaps you when the lead could tag team up wrestle with bart. He ain't beef, but he is infuriating and you can't teach infuriating money. You're a genius. But cannot be an old time wrestler as you're son, and you're incompetent employee, I forbid it Why does everything I forbid always happen?
See. This is this is exhibit a, Matt in that They are treating, like, it's real because, I mean, home homer thinks It's fake. Homer says it's fake. Right? So I... That is acknowledgment. Homer realizes that wrestling is staged. But burns goes staged. What? So you're telling me that burns who is, this incredible massive wrestling fan for what now 60 years, I guess. Mh. Doesn't know that it's staged. It... It's impossible, matt. That's what I'm saying. That this is literally impossible.
And this is... And when he he literally does break the fourth wall stares directly at the camera. Says anyone who's a wrestling fan is a moron. And This is this is Robby Soap box. Alright? I'm I'm I have to do it. I'm very sorry. I I doubt that an when listening is that type of person, but just in in case you are, when you if you say if if someone says I'm a pro wrestling fan? They tell you, hey, I really... I'm a big fan of wrestling or like wrestling. And they go... But it's fake. We we know.
It we don't like it because we think it's real, guys. We don't we don't... I don't like marvel movies because I think they're documentaries. It it's it's about suspending your disbelief and about watching larger than life characters, you know, engage and in in back and forth comment about the nature of of man about good and evil. It's about seeing incredible athletic and. In a live environment. It's not about watching
real people. I would just try watch Mma if I wanted to watch people beat each other up. More boxing. They, like, real combat sports exist. I don't need to... So I don't I wash them. I like the fake stuff. Yeah. You're right. I know. So this is... It this is the biggest assignment. It tells me that none of the people involved are actually wrestling fans. Because every person who is a wrestling fan has gotten this once at least once in
their life. I can't imagine. You know, per there's who actually hit people when people have accused them of being fake in real life. And then I... And if I was a, I would understand I understand the anger because you probably get it all the time. Probably really annoying. But it's just this. It's just, like, what is this episode about then? Like, is this about... This is literally about... So it's about literally being a villain? Because that's is is like... Because when the...
When burns cast into doubt, he thinks it's real, then what is abe doing, We never see Abe have a discussion with his opponent for a match. Like, is this acting like it's real? I think like it's fake? I don't know. It's bad either way. But and like you said, like, oh, you could have at least about some angle about bart being a healing real life and how that's not acceptable because you're gonna be miserable. People are gonna know you're a bad person.
And I feel like that is what they were gonna go for, but guess what? There's 3 minutes left. Less less less than 3 minutes. Don't worry. Robbie, we have the the last act switch flip that Toyota gonna fix this. Yes. We go to our final commercial 17 minutes or 27 seconds. Went 2 and a half minutes. 2 and half minutes. Alright. So we finally get to the point where the actual plot. I think the actual plot of
the episode happens. We see Bart and aid getting ready for their match Like, I said earlier, Bart is going over the movies he's going to use. Robbie, is hundred percent correct. You would be doing this with the opponent and the match because This is a choreographed thing. Everyone has to be doing the the same thing, the correct thing at the right time for this to come off the way it's supposed to look good, But it's just abe and bart. So we don't have to
deal with anyone else. And As bart goes to leave, March comes in and basically says what we've been saying the entire episode about Bart taking is too serious. Oh, I get it. You're here to tell the kid he can't wrestle with its grandpa. I don't care if Bart as a wrestler, a bus boy, or even a stop sq man. As long as he's a nice person. But if he gets too much attention for acting bad, you might turn bad on the in side. Man, that's women talk. Now if you'll excuse me. I have to come up my curls.
123. Beautiful bart. Can I have here autograph of graph? Sure. Here you go. Yeah hey part. Leave some of that bad attitude for the ring. The world is my ring now. So, yes. As we can see, Bart is taking this all far too seriously. Bringing into a batman villain for some reason. My god you're right. The world is my ring. What are we doing? Is this a dick? This is a 10 year old boy, the world he's not. He doesn't have superpower. He's not mister threes. Like putting
And I'll also say this, Matt. This is the 1 thing I thought when this happened and, like, there are most hardcore wrestling fans. If they went to get an autograph from Mah heel and they spit, they hoc the Loo in the autograph book, most wrestling fans would be psyche for that because that is that is... They... They're you have their Dna. What can you do with it? I mean, they mean, it's just like, it's like, no. It's like, they that is... They love to engage with the character.
And like, there's wrestling friends Wanna get chopped. They go to signings and get hit. Just beaten by wrestlers and they love it. We're all nuts. I know. But, like, this is a legitimate thing where it's like, no. Actually, that's not a crazy thing to do as a heel, and I think... I mean, I wanna do it to a kid, maybe to an adult. But, again, this is how much times left now? A minute, a minute maybe. Yeah. Boy, it's it's about 2 minutes because we still have to have the
final match. Oh, final match. Okay. Yeah. So abe, now obviously sees what everyone else has been worried about, with bart. So when the match is about to begin, they're going against some super Pro america guy and a little person. And when he's introduced as glorious Godfrey, he doesn't switcher roof. He says, oh, I'm lauren glorious godfrey. I'm now honest abe, and then he pulls bart wig off and makes him lat liberty. So Part is obviously not okay with this. And
neither as burns, burns is sense. He's like, no. You have to be the villain being the villain is great. So what happens now? Abe and Bart beat up bond burns. Yay. And the episode is over. I mean, I would say in this case, you have to be the... You have to be the villains because already have good guys over there. Okay? The good we can't have heal versus heal and I'm or good guys are baby face face... Versus baby face a match. It doesn't make any sense. They won't
know who to here for. We don't want we want the credits cheer for 1 group, not both. Or we don't know or they won't in, but they won't... We'll end up not sure. See that's the thing, matt. Like, Mister burns is the booker, but My gosh I can't help it engage with this, like, a wrestling fan, and it just is nonsense in Bart, just... I guess learns this lesson in 8 seconds because Abe tells them. That's it. Yep. What Like, right? That's it? Nothing? At the end, that's it. There's just...
It's as a wrestling fan, this episodes of atrocious. This is... The... As a wrestling fan, if I was gauge every episode as a wrestling fan, this would be the worst episode ever. As a normal... As a normal human, you know, trying to put aside my fandom. It's still not very good. It it's it's it's kinda boring. It has... It takes up a large part of the the first act is all about grand being gay for it, like, they... Lot weird weird gay panicked stuff. Weird, like, again, like, it's
like they... And they try and like, oh, well, actually, we're we're progressive because we actually want it. You're like, okay. You're still being weird about it, man. I like, the story is they don't want bart to be a bad guy. Okay. But it's about... So we don't have them... But we have him in a wrestling match at the end. Mh. What what what is what does this have to do with... I don't I don't know why anyone's doing anything, multiple things get established without being established,
like this wrestling. Like, burns is just having a wrestling event. Oh, is he? Or just decides to out. Okay? Or is this just a thing. The, like, the many, many coincidence, the many fourth wall breaks, Also, this episode just calls me a moron because I like pro wrestling. So I'm not gonna necessarily like it anyway. We'll rank it. I... Matt it's gonna help have to help a lot in this 1 because I don't know what the hell to do with it. Okay we cannot be objective
about this. Anything science related in. Exactly. It's... You understand, Matt. We'll at the end the show? Robbie, is this episode broken? Yeah. Well No. You were like the first time we a Quick fix idea. Lynch be quick fix. Quick fix. U. Even if you're not wrestling fan this stuff broken. It it just... It's obvious. It's. It's it's weirdly paced and, like, it... I don't know what the stakes are. I guess the stakes are like, oh, we don't want Bart to be a batman villain or something.
Like, it's like, it's like, it's because it's so elevated. You'd never understand, like, what's at stake? Like... And it's not I, like, we both kind of spit ball around the idea. Of like, what's not a bad idea. You could have... Okay. First thing we're gonna the same is like, Don't want an episode with Grandpa's once a world Famous pro wrestler. No. That's bad idea. You could... You could hear. I will say this. I will allow
for this, Matt. I will allow the grandpa was once a pro wrestler, but even a locally famous pro. Local small scale. Like regional. There's lot... There's, there's many of those people who I even have never heard of. They they exist and and you could easily have it the same kind of idea, you... And you could get grandpa some extra character because he's... He wants a little bit more of that a taste of that success the taste of that fame. He can revisit
it once again. Sure. So he's not world famous, but he could... Sure. He played a villain. And he got tired of it because he gets tired. People treating him like he's a bad guy, even though he's not. Simple as that. I... Like, people treating me like I was the character, and they're the... Because the lines were blurred, I quit. And I wasn't making any money. That's the other thing that pro successful pro never stop
ever. Their car to the fullest extent if they have are making money, they will never quit ever. Until their bodies forced them to. Even then, Matt, I mean, I I I've seen Terry Fun russell match when he was in his seventies. Okay? Like, Rick Flair still trying to have matches even when he had a heart attack in the middle of his supposed retirement match. Like, they don't quit as long as they're are getting paid, and it's, like, they're addicted to that that fame. That's a part
of it. So the fact that Grandpa's is the world famous pro and he quits. I don't believe for a second. He... The real gorgeous george never quit. He he got... He he stopped being famous because wrestling... Because he stopped being at wrestling stopped being as as popular. But you can make that the angle of this, bart still idol his grandpa because he sees that he gets to play this bad guy and have fun and be a jerk to people. And then bar starts, you know, mimicking him.
I wouldn't have it in a literally game. Just have it on the playground. Have it, like, normal human bank. Normal human behavior. But, I mean, I think that's the opposite episode, right where you just have bart start acting up, And maybe Bart thinks professional Wrestling Israel and Abe like, no, bart a playing character and maybe 8 can even say that, like, yeah, well, it is s productive because it is a lot of fun playing the villain,
but I'm playing a villain. I'm not actually a villain, you need to make that separation apparent in your real life. Mh. And... But the problem is, matt, that's a really simple lesson. And it gets solved in, like, a conversation, which would tell me that you don't need to make this episode. It's if you could be solved in 1 quick conversation, not worth doing 20 minutes of entertainment about. Like, if you wanna do a wrestling episode of the simpsons, there's a lot of ways
you could do it. And get me, I don't get me wrong, I'd love it. I would just have homer or be a wrestler. Like, it's... You've already given him so many jobs, what's another 1. If you really was a professional boxer. I mean is it's 1 light step from that to a wrestler. And you could even make that joke, man. You could even make the joke. And, like, it's, like, there's so much drama behind the scenes and pro wrestling. There's, you know, dark side of the ring
has had 5 seasons now. Of of, like, awful horror stories of real life drama and real life, you know, danger and death and stuff. You can easily mine all that and make simpsons upset about it. You could even do the wrestler Darren Aaron movie and have a a grandpa up or homer or someone or have a... Guest character come in, get a wrestler to play the wrestler or something... Like it's again, III could easily write a dozen different Simpsons wrestling episodes. None of them feature grandpa.
Like, why are we... Again, like, why in the first place? Oh, we wanted to write wrestling episode. So we're gonna have grandpa be a wrestler in the fifties? Why? What's funny about grandpa Putting someone in a fridge in the fifties? What's the joke there? Asked a question. Gag don't know. Okay. Boy. Feel like away is been listed off that. And you never have to open this episode ever again. Except when somebody else finds out you like Wrestling an ask seen this episode.
And then I go, yeah. It's not good. We can move on to our next I guess Robert Copies news group. Okay. Here we are. Alt dot nerd dot. Constant group is where we ask our patrons over there their at patreon dot com slash the Simpson show. Their thoughts have been. Or put them on here, Rem aloud. From Da, high to be Lo might be the best song years. And Marc saying, come out of your room if you don't wanna to die alone, followed by all the residents coming out. Got a genuine laugh out of me. For
the rest the episode. Meh the ad exciting incident it was beyond Dumb, Helen Del joy below my list of characters that would support a Trans cousin. And as a wrestling fan, this was not great. I didn't need a third episode this season abe past. That's 3 this season. That's a third 1 this episode... Season no way. Oh, god. No now I'm looking. I know this happened this season was the the the jazz singer 1. Yes. That... There's Gone... That's gone may be gone.
Right. Problem is I don't remember any of these episodes. I know. Girl what they all are. Oh, the 1 about Sen or that the dog, bongo. Oh, yeah. There are 3 this season. Oh, is right. Oh my god. And Helen Love joy would never support, I mean, I tell I love her not a real person. So I can be mean... She would not be... She would be transformative of it because Hell, she's a Pastor wife. I I she's she's a terrible person. She would not be the ally,
1 here. Continuing on with Da. Wanna wrestling episode go with the plot of the wrestler. Have Bart least you try to help an older wrestler get 1 last chance of glory, wrestling as well potential don't use up all the energy for a 3 minute gay grandpa pop. Rather watch this again than Michael Cole Jerry La at Manny 27. Tara, that's... That is the lowest of low bars. Okay? So I don't... That's not.
I mean, but that's not saying much. Better than Gone a con worse than to occur with Love ninth best episode of season 27. That's probably right. Well we'll see. From Tim, this made almost no impression on me. Seem like another episode of Halo who's available. Let's use them, and their wrestlers, which we hear are what the kids dig today. Bonus. I can certainly become interested in a story, which doesn't blend with my real life interest. The
case of point being Bar dared level. No interest actual people people cross Canyon, but the argument is 1 of the 1 that made me a Simpsons spam for life. But had been gorgeous grandpa, the Simpsons might have been relegated to the same category for me as Big Bang theory, to which I said there's 22 minutes of life. I'm not getting back. Number 04:38 not Canon. Me ross someone having someone more believable will be the wrestler.
Basically, the best way to describe his. He almost had it which is regret a hallmark of the modern simpsons. Wrestling was entertaining this issue is that by the time or Even Bar entered the ring episode it had already essentially concluded due to its success focus on rad antics. Princess, everything was severely undermined by margins bad obsession with Own homosexuality. Mainstream to the show though was that the conflict was illogical. You're not a bad person just because you play a villain.
Springs up another Ir aspect of season 24, which is margins outright declaration that 2 thinks bart will become homeless. Fire episode attempts to place the blame for bart actions on abe. Absolutely wouldn't have happened if marginal number accepted parent, parental responsibility. Stop viewing him as sub human actually would have been a great plot to making it a contemporary itchy scratching in March, especially given that it took 1 conversation with
A for bar to get it. Pause know, I think this since I found myself enjoying Lisa march chicken all the episodes and negativity, qui that she didn't think of herself as youthful as humorous. From Jj, likely due to being a matt Summon. So Gorgeous Grandpa, At least doesn't feel like they're trying to pad the runtime because they have a thin premise. Stuff happens, but it's not good. Ga must officially have the most overs stuff passed on the show. They seriously need to stop adding
to it. And I know they've never been on big on continuity, but seeing Grandpa and burns together makes me think of course of the flying selfish. The only true grab up a backstory. And I just find it weird that neither of them bring up their rich history together. To quote you guys. This episode is not about pro wrestling. It's about... It's around pro wrestling. Thank you, Jj. I couldn't said it on myself. And why were they center their pro wrestling
Episode Gram all characters. The only moment they try and fail at Hot tires when birds off looks at directly at the viewer calls, all fans of pro wrestling complete morons believing it's real, which shows I out of how out of touch the current riders are and likely inside half their own fan base. You're gonna write episode about pro wrestling Maybe you know more about it than broad stereotypes of the sport and its fans or better yet
be a fan yourself. Oh, and the conflict involving grandpa on Bart is predictable, undeveloped and rushed. Stray observations. Don't mind martin Helen wanting to brag about having queer family members since the joke was on them, Although in the original area March actually set a slur, which they later red dubbed to transgender. And the cousins design as well as the name Stan the arena is a bit questionable.
The song is okay. Although though I fu to burns who skeletal Donkey kong, Mega Voldemort and Eric Cart r. Just another example of the Writers wanting to make a joke we're not caring if it's in character. That's another... I like, at a certain point, the amount of criticism criticisms, I could bring up that no makes sense it's just so many that me and, we just can't bring up everything. There's just too many. I think burns could know who Voldemort is. Copy as compared to him all the time.
So, yeah, It checks out. Right. I think that's the only 1. I don't think he wouldn't know sk toward Donkey Kong, Mega trump or it's certainly not carpet. But it's again, whatever. Firm miss 100. This episode exists. Probably don't need to add more than that. It's there. But moving on to things are actually good and interesting. Guys. I've read 1 of Ravi books, and it was genuinely great. All I meant I was hesitant on giving a shot I've had meats for write books before and they were
just painful. Had to read these things and pretend they were fine or that I enjoyed them. When truth be told I lost a little bit of respect for these guys. Not intentionally. It just happened. So I didn't wanna read Robby writing in case was the same thing. I like Robbie, and then 1 that regard to be diminished. But Lo and Behold. I truly enjoyed you truly genuinely enjoyed reading Burial. Cracking pace very fun, no grammatical errors and better than written the most of their
fiction have recently consumed. So anyone listening those was same since Eye I had rest assured. It's not cringe is actually damn good. Well, thank you. A glowing review. I mean, it is my show, so I'm gonna... When someone writes in with a glowing review 1 of my books. So I'm just gonna read it. Yeah. My books are good. I'm not... My blowing and smoke. Pair might be my... I don't know. It is my favorite or 1 of my favorites, but I think it's robbie. I think all my books are good. I
don't... Yeah. You think I'm just yelling at you every week to did rem my books because I think they're not they're bad. No. My books are good. They got great reviews too. Go read all my reviews. All of them are good. Most of them except for some some of the people who are like, Where. There's gay people at it. Hey. Where. That's what they sound like I might brain that when I read 1 of those reviews. They're like, of course. Ran. This is stupid. They sound like a little baby. Finally
from Derek. Look, I'm not having a good time. Spent my last week in intensive care with 0 electrolytes and as they pump me out the Wu with Magazine Magnesium, I had to endure Hardly ke, and it was inter. It was so so much people than the Pure and hey endured for weeks leading up to being hospitalized. So anyway, I still have death and I'm home now and then have, like Covid something I got off some drug in that short
stay ward. I was predisposed disposed to hate this week's crap and I did, of course. Another sn Ab backstory episode. They love these. I don't know what server version is impetus for shooting this crap out. Frankly, I don't wanna know but I don't like it and I didn't need in my life right now. Well, Derek, I'm glad that you're doing Okay. I would say that you're in the hospital, season 24 the Simpsons is the least the last thing you need. Maybe just, you know,
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know. We can move on to next segment it's time listening question of the week. Let's try 1 more number? K kb is gonna give me some still But hotdog dog. We have a winner? I'll that's your crush week this week. What's was your favorite game? Who is your favorite game of Thrones character? It wasn't a big response, matt, but it was more than it could have been. Right? It could've have been very bad and got 2 answers. We got more than 2. So success is what I say. Success. Take it
away. Alright. From Da. Having only seen the first 3 seasons, Our stark seems like the best answer. Don't radar, that continues to be pretty much the best name. For mitch 100, have a very conflicted relationship with the song Bison Fire. Devour the first 3 books only 2 thousands, then booked 4 a couple of years later, and then he read them all at least 5 times was deeply invested. Then book 5 came out. I took a day off work on the release date. I was
that excited. And I read it once realized, oh, he has no idea what he's doing. My gosh On board. I'd never picked them up again. Never watched the show due to my disdain in its appointment. But I'll never forget my love for the character of Jamie Lannister. I'll admit, I'm a sucker for a good redemption arc and Jamie was well written at his motivate. That's better from Jj j. Daenerys, but only for the first 7 seasons. Yeah. I think I think everyone... I'm gonna say this. I
think everyone is on onboard. No 1 acknowledges the last, at least the last season of the Tv show. Probably. Oh, the last season was absolutely some kind of weird fever dream. No head. Yeah. No 1, everyone. Regardless of how you're fan of the property. Of the book or the the Television show. Everyone is like, yeah, didn't happen. Nah, what's just... No. Some 1 of the things like, no now, they didn't do that. It's fine.
We'll wait for the real ending. Hopefully, eventually, will be written by the George R martin. Hopefully He says wins the winner is coming along, Matt, you know, it'll come maybe it'll release to this decade. I think he's just stray along until he dies. So he doesn't actually come up with the an ending. Fair. Anyway, next from Psycho, Psycho. Honestly, running through the Ro x some characters in my head so many of them fall a favor once the writing fa like Ty
best before he held the idiot ball. See. That's the thing. You just you you subtract the the latter season or 2. Before everyone got real stupid. Yeah. When they were going off of, you know, books that have come out and not, you know, George R Martin's Haitian scribble notes that he gave to the years. Next it from Silly. Taking it account everything I know about game of Thrones, which is nothing I'll go with the Starbucks com. It's my favorite character too. And most realistic eye character.
From gone of the Great 93. I never watched more than 3 episodes. So I'm going with sir Jim Swords. Does this awful barely a joke referenced qualified me to be a season 24 simpsons writer? Yes. Yes, it does. You're already you're hired. You're hired. Cute. Like it's like Jay Sherman. You're hired. Next up. Robert finally from Real Sanity. Favorite game with thrones characters was probably Ty Lannister.
Was a brilliant strategist who stole every scene and like it was more to the british credit than you They read the care picture. Probably. What is your answer? I haven't really had to think about this, matt? I, I also have a very complicated relationship with, game of Thrones and Saga by some fire. Where... Yes. I was super huge fan into it for a very long time. And then the Television show actually made me less interested in it. Over time.
Mostly because it was like, oh, no. Are we really never gonna get the books though? Like, I was... I really thought that, oh, the television shows out George Martin is gonna wanna finish these books in time. And. No. He's not gonna at, like, And then at certain point, like, I don't I don't know if I'm just, like mean or something. But I feel like I am qualified as another as a fiction writer it's not that hard, man. Like, I don't understand, like, I can't do it. Like, it's
not that... It's you're You get to do this for for for your job, man, like it's fun. Like, this is your job. Like, there's people out there like, laying bricks every day in the heat. And you just get to, like, write words. That so guess so great. Like, it's not that horror. It shouldn't take you 12 years to write a book. 1 book. I don't care how long it is. I don't care if it's a million words. Alright. My favorite. Now, I really around on
this a bit. I I kinda... I made my own, like, top my s tier and then... And then I'm like, okay who's my s tier? S to your characters Ty. Let me some Ty. How the hound. Love the sound. Love the hound. Aria, the aria with the hound, honestly are, like, they go together. I mean, that should be a buddy cop movie. Let's be real. I mean, they basically treat it like 1. I know. But they should have completely divorced it, like, Okay. There's a whole side thing. They just disappear for
a season. It it's like the Hobbs in Shaw, Thing for fast and furious. Just they go by themselves, you can ignore everything else going on. And then probably I'm probably ser Ser da, Ser. I like him a lot. Night. No. Onion night, I like him a lot too. That's my s here. So I I would pick among those. Right? Is my favorite. I Brian almost makes the cut. I don't like Brand as the books go on. I like Brand lesson and less. Yeah. They kinda make them into a weird character.
I... So if I could just pick Brand from, like, books, the first couple books. I would include it. Include Brand. But, I'm gonna go with the hound. I like the hound. He's my favorite. Because he's, like, that's what I think, George r martin excels at. He's he's really, like, flawed gray characters that you still reach more. That you still realistic here Like, if you were dropped into that environment, you would have to be just like all
these characters. Ned stark gets his head cut off in the end of book 1, and that's because he acts like you want a book here to act. It doesn't work in the real world. And it doesn't work in in certainly not in in in game of Thrones and and you will die. You will get your head chopped off if you try and be a good person. So the hound is is this, like, tragic flawed, broken, kind of bad person, a large part of the time, but you see some redeeming qualities him come out. You understand
why he behaves the way he does. The way the reason he hates nights because his own brother is technically a knight and his brother is as a soc path. But I don't know. That either... You can make argument for a bunch of characters why I like Game Thrones in general. Matt what's your answer. So, again, morally great character that I feel like a lot of people kinda hate, but I love is V. Like V. Okay. Like, I I love the idea of someone who's just like, Look, I am not a big person. I
am a smart person. I have no, you know, breathing or anything. I it was born a slave and, you know, is now a unique. And it's just like, no. I'm going to be a big power player. No matter what you think. And he just works behind the scenes to take care of things and to make sure things end up how they're are supposed to, especially if a Sarah's in the books comes across as way more capable as in the show, because, obviously, we never got in to show the whole idea of,
the pressure John. I can't remember Remember you've read the books, the, you know, long lost son of a Targaryen who's gonna come back and the the 1 that Tier actually goes to in the books. Do you know remember what his name was? I, you're... I have not read the book some quite a while, Matt, so I know Not... Yeah. That there's some guy who... I... If I remember correctly, was dis related to star areas, and he's bringing a whole force of people over to,
take over the throat. I I think he's roughly an analog for Henry Tutor since this is all based on the word the Roses. But it is completely left out of the show. But, va is basically the 1 organizing his rein to Westeros in the books. And he's just... He's basically eyeing in the scenes taken care of all that because he understands the 1 thing in the show that I really appreciate since he has a conversation. I
wanna say save the to. I remember who basically said, all of these people out there playing their little power games and who gets crushed every single time anyone makes a move, the little people. All I want is for things to be calm and for the little people to be able to live the happy simple lives. And I was like, I have so much respect for that, especially when you come from absolutely nothing. He he understands how it go. That's why he's my favorite character.
And that was not the answer I was expecting from me, man. Really What were you expecting? That's a good question. I feel like it was gonna be more of a I don't know. Like, a... 1 of the the the the the the kind of good good characters who are struggling with that they're trying to be good and failing. 1 of the a stark, probably. Most most of the starks quite frankly. Yeah. Of bra of rob or John Snip. Probably a Jon snow. I don't know. That... Johnson is kind
of a boring answer. John's a great character. I like Jon snow a lot. He is... He's a lot better the books. I feel like, has a lot more stuff. Kinda... It's weird to say this, but a lot more stuff revolves around him in the books and in the show because he feel like the show he's around it all the time. But I mean, you know, the boiler supposed if you haven't heard the book. I I can't remember if he dies and was back in the show or not. A lot of really important stuff has happening in the wall.
That they just kinda skip over for the show. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's... I mean, it's there's a... Those books are really long. It it's... Like, it's impressive that they managed to get as much as they did in the show until it got really bad all of a sudden. Next week's question? It's time, Matt. It's time. I have the... I have an excuse. Oh. Who's your favorite pro wrestler? Oh, yay. And, you know, you can pick anyone for any reason. Don't pick call Hogan though. K. That's that's
a... That is no. Don't pick call Hogan. Basically any awful wrestlers, but that's 1 of them. I mean, that Seam matt. That's... That is the the another way I can tell that you don't follow enough wrestling. No. There are plenty of awful people who are wrestlers. Most of them are ways you don't really know. Hulk Hogan is... Yes it's very clear. He's not a good person. So, like, you could pick anybody, Just don't pick whole Hogan, and I'll probably excuse it.
I'll post this our subreddit on our patreon, or emails. Simpson pod at g mail dot com. We gotta move on, Matthew. To our next second time for the new Google Trivia challenge. Hi am to smart. Hi, you to smart. Martin. I mean, SMART The no Google trivia Challenge. I each challenge each with 3 trivia questions when easy. 1 meme and 1 hard and try and stumped the other. Matt has quite a lead on me the season. It's not good for me. 9 points run the the latter half of this season.
I'm I'm think... I'm very thankful for that, Matt. That we're over halfway through Season 24. I'm not thankful affect europe up 9 points of me. Okay. Are you ready for an easy question? Ready? In dude, where is my ranch? Why do the Simpsons retreat to a dude ranch? Believe, this is because to get away from the all at home made up about Fl, the Christmas song? You are correct, Matt. Okay. On make of that was the right episode. That is the episode. You're correct. Alright. I went back to
a much better episode. In home... The home they fall, what professional boxer does home fight. Dr Tatum. Who are correct. I could just say Mike Tyson it'd be, but roughly the same. But you know, I would accept that. Yeah. During 10. In dude rosemary ranch. Who we learn. Someone used to wrestle on the name. El dia. Who is that? In there? Rusty? Rusty. I have no clue. Is David Byrne, used to wrestle under the name El dia. David Byrne, former releasing of the top heads
He isn't an episode. He c sings that song with Homer. That's who that's who it does. III knew there was a famous position that C wrote the song with Homer. Mh. Hey moving on. Your medium question. Who does Dr Tatum talk to in the audience while he's ignoring his fight with homer? He's having a conversation with some celebrity. He's talking about, like, Chilean C. Right? He's like, yeah. Yeah like, a black or mean like that. Oh, I remember that, but I don't matter who it is.
It's some... Say John T. I'm sorry, Robert. Is a Charlie Sheen. Charlie Sheen. Man, my. I could... I remember the sea bass. Okay. Your hard question, ma'am. What is the billboard headline when everybody hates Ned Fl goes number 1? Alright. I I missed the middle of that what you say? What is the billboard headline when everybody hates Ned Fl goes number 1, 0, it's a pun title. Land is fantastic. Fl slam is number 1 jam. That's right. You actually asked that. I think
I have. Yeah. Alright, Robbie. This is gonna be a tough 1. 0, god. Alright. What are the name of the names of the other fighters in the association of Springfield Semi pro boxer? Are there mostly homeless people at homer? I I was say. Are there, like, 10 of them? I counted. I believe 8, not accounting homer. 8. Okay. 8 others. Yeah if you if you get 4 of these, I will give you all 3 points. Wow. See probably about... I'm my, I am I get any.
They're all like, like, they all have, like, the name Box car and box car Joe, I'll say there's 2 box cars. Let's see. There's a box card, Joe and a box car bill. Box car Bill and Box card Joe. Then there's like, a H, Steve, Homeless Eddie, I don't know, man. I I can't come up with you. I can't even come up with more names. So no. I don't know. That's my answer is. Alright. I'm sorry, Ravi. It is a box car fred. Box car fritz. Okay. Manny the Mu, soup can sam,
Box car Ira and 1 eye jack. 3 box cars. Re box got. Okay. Fair enough. Soup can sam. Yep soup can sam. But that's okay. Well, we broke at 1 point. That's not gonna cut it, though, Matt, it a 9 point lien on me. It's unfortunate. Does mean I can be as mean as I possibly want of these questions, and it doesn't make a difference. That's it for true. Move on to our final segment. So we would never I with this time for best Episode ever. Best
episode ever. Best episode ever is the par Matt, I ranked it's categorically go because you Washington them Chronological eventually compile a list of every episode ever. And how good they are. We need you to temper me a little bit on this 1 that. Let's see. Where is... There's that lump of those season 24 episodes down in the 4 forties. Penny wise guy, triggers the springfield changing of the guardian and testing me think it's pretty close to that. I... Okay. I it was
above that. I think it's better than... Here. I'm... I'm gonna be a objective... Okay. Here's a question. Is it better than the squirt in the whale? I would say yes, just because the false hope in the middle of the score in the whale makes me cry. Okay. So how about... I was actually gonna say it is slightly better than the 10 percent solution. How we remember the agents and I think I think own rivers is in it or somebody like that. What is that? It's the 1 about agents in in Hollywood.
Oh, that was terrible. Okay. It's Yeah. But now we're getting them to, like dangerous curves. And I probably grate dangerous curves more on a high just because of the movie we watched about it. Well Yeah. But that's that's not... You can't I I feel like it's in this area. I would say something... I'm trying to... Like, which judge... Which judge me tender? But number I don't remember. Alright. Hold on... I'm looking it up. I don't remember. Ugly dog
Mob discovers, Mo gets on American Idol. That's that episode. I think that episode better than this. It's not good, but it's I'm trying to... Oh, yes. Yes as a judge. Sorry. You said Mo on American. I don't I was, I do not remember that so. No. I mean, he's not a contestant. But, yeah, He's on the show. You're you're right that I've just made 1 of the worst episodes Ever in my I mean, I don't know. There's a certain part of me the things maybe. There's the greatest story ever Dude.
Is that a bible story So. Oh is the Jerusalem episode. The kind sorta, Homer beliefs he's Jesus? Oh, god, almighty. I don't even remember this, Matt. I I feel like a way too well as we're a tiny... Sac Baron Cohen is the is Roy tour... Really tour guide, and then there's the little girl who does Cro Mag miguel on Bart. Oh, Okay. I'm started it started to come back to me, but okay. I'll say... Okay. What's American history excellent? I think this is better
than the greatest story ever dude. Oh, yeah. American history, excellent. Why didn't hear hurting us. Smith becomes... Smith runs the plant. And then hey Homer millennium and Carl Break burns out of prison. Oh my god. That was such a bad. Right. Yeah. That was very bad. I'll put this much. I would say this is above American history excellent and below judge me tender. I am definitely okay with. I. That's where I'm gonna put this.
And that's me being as unbiased as possible about its slight against pro wrestling fans. As someone who follows a pro wrestling Simpsons meme account. There's more than 1 of them at. If you didn't... If you didn't know. There's multiple pro wrestling themes, Simpsons meme accounts on social media. So go gorgeous grab on number 04:33 in the list right below Judge me tend to write above American history excellent right. Number 2 forwarding in our post golden year's ranking.
We're not done yet, though, matt. We have 1 more thing to do before we leave. 1 more question to answer that question is do we shoot this episode out of the cannon? I'm I can't think of a reason to keep this. No. There's... I mean, we always have weight and much crap in grandpa's background. We don't need more. Yeah. And you know what we say? Fire the cannon. Trevor Goodbye. Forever goodbye. Gorgeous grandpa. We can the same question about every episode, we will work
our way down from the top. We are number 1 98 in a list, matt, that is round the springfield. Season 6. I mean, s... Let me without this, but games murphy never dies. Oh, I am on the record. You can go list of that episode. I'm on the record. I really like. I don't like Around springfield that much. And I know it. It's I... It's it's... III don't know why like this this problem this mod crap. People love it. I think it's a it's fine. It's not terrible or anything. It's certainly
a thousand leagues better than this episode. I'm not saying it's bad, but I don't love it. I don't even like it that much. I think it's 1 of my it's up that high, mostly because Matt tempered me in that instance as well, but I would still argue. Yes. It is Canon. Has razor sharp. How do you not? You can't write that away. Mh. Yeah. And stay, Of course. But even the episodes I don't like or like less than most people are like still like I I this is a number 1 On our list. It's so very high.
Compared to. Now that we're nearing nearing 500 episodes on this list. The ones in the top 200 are Still pretty good. It's... We're gonna... It's an interesting line. We're gonna have to make it at some point matt where we're we're gonna have to... Where it tips over. Like, when do the good episodes stop. When's the last good episode. We're gonna have to we'll have to figure that out 1 day. But it stays 1 day, not today.
That'll do it for us. You can find this list on our website at simpson show dot com has links to all the stuff. I'm still working on the website, guys. Please be patient with me. Lot of things in my plate Mow. And I'm also lazy. So keep that in mind. You know, I don't like doing work. I like laying on my couch plain out and ring. My dog, keeping her calm during the fireworks. I've lost track my life. Here we go. What's our next episode Matt? Next episode? See that's what you said sent. You go
Matt What's our next... Robbie. What's our next episode? Our next episode. What's our next episode? There here you go. Next episode is black eyed, please. I'm gonna get beat up it. Homer invites himself in the ned fl house and finds Ned beat parents there, and and he punches home in the face and then encourages his homework to punch him back to make it even. And then so that's the that's the bit is
There's like... And there's a boot miss Hoover is gone on and so there's a new teacher that is a mean bullying teacher that played by Tina Fay. Richard Dock isn't in it as a devil version of himself, and I'm, like, isn't Richard Duck already the devil version of himself? For a guy who believes a lot of the same things I do. He's not a very nice man. Nope. You're really really. Yeah. You could, like, maybe don't be an idiot, like, in, like, behavior wise, and I'll like you more. That's
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