Christian, Stefan, thank you so much for agreeing to take me through your customer experience centre. Really excited to go through and basically build my own knowledge on what lighting is and how it has an impact on associates and the customer experience. But can you take me through, you know how we're going to go through the the customer experience centre today? Absolutely. We will bring you, Alex and the POD audience to a lighting
journey. And where we start here in our black box, we're starting off off showing the fundamental aspects and the secret of light, actually the power the light can bring into a space. And then the next stop will actually be layers of light using different kind of layers, setting the right mood. And we will then focus on the grocery sector and we'll then go ahead talking about. The possibilities we can create to communicate with light, we
are making a piece of art. Like it or not, you know, lighting is art. Lighting is art. Actually, it's not this. It's not this. It could be this. It's absolutely. But here's more showing different modules, so to speak. Oh, light is art. Good. Good description, Alex. Brilliant. So, Stefan, what are we going to go? Through today, today we are going to go through energy
efficiency and energy cost. And how you can make a big impact on that, which is actually a big part of the store's operational expenditures. I will also talk about how important it is. To take care. Of the right lighting for the staff, the store associates. How we can reduce discomfort there for them? So where are we going to go first? Now, Alex, we go to the black box. We're starting off there. Perfect. OK, so Alex? Let me show you what we got here.
We are inside now, what we call the black room or the black boxes. I think this black box, we will show you the top secret of what we can do with lighting. I mean, lighting itself is not a secret, but it kept the secret and it's belongs to its contents and the relation to that to us human beings. Yeah. So what I want you to show now is the possibilities we can create in a retail space. To announce and expand the shopping experience from a lighting perspective.
So let's start talking about light level. That's the first step here we're talking about light level and what you can see here now is different kind of feelings and atmosphere. And you can also see that I have this make my decision now where to put the highest light level. It means also that the adaptation for your eyes will automatically be. Where we have the light to spot, yeah. And it doesn't mean that we don't want to sell the all the other items. Yeah. It's more defining where to
look. So you're focusing the key products here basically through light? I focusing on the key products to make sure that you see them when you're entering the store. Yeah, because I want you to see them. Yeah. And therefore I also, I have to dim down a little bit in the surroundings. Yeah. Doesn't mean that they are not. I don't want you to make.
A purchase for those goods. But it means that I want you to put focus where it's need, where it's needed on these three top products which is shown here, understood and and it and it draws my eyes to the paintbrushes. I'm thinking I didn't want paintbrush, but now I want a paintbrush. Now you need a paintbrush among all others things in the store. I forget those green vases.
I want that paintbrush. So that's light level and this room we can actually show different kind of applications and you know visual appearance and so on. And the next Phase I want to guide you through is the combination between warm and cold which I described here. Here we have a quite cool colour temperature on those rings and to make it a little bit more cozy I. Suddenly needs to, of course, dim down.
What do you call it as in like between the two shades of light I can see it. What is that? What one's warm and one's? I would say one is warm and one is cool. Is there a technical? Name for that. Actually, Kelvin temperature is the technical name. OK, good. So that the cold one has 6000 Kelvin cold temperature. Yeah. And the warm one is has 2700 Kelvin. Got you. And the combination between those two I would say is the fundamental aspects of light in any circumstances.
But if you want to create a warm atmosphere you do. That's easy list to also adding some cool colour points, but then you have a relation to warmth in the quite more efficient way. So for it for this case, for example, I had quite cool warm colour temperature nowadays and I want instead having a quite. Blue feeling in totally in this room. Yeah. So I add some blue light here, which you can see Now go ahead.
So now the combination between the blue and the warmth gives me a quite good relations like the sky in the sorry, the sky in the sun outside, quite close, connection in between warm. The next thing I want to show you now is actually how. The light in the store creates modern atmosphere compared to what I'm using. For example here I want to have this warm ring and then I add in spotlights and I add in the spotlights in the certain in a certain area which is actually
not needed. I have the light here, but I don't have any kind of light in my applications. So what I do instead is that I of course need. I'd like a little bit more on the vertical surface. It will just announce the, the vertical surfaces to create such atmosphere, which is needed for the good, yeah, not for the room, yeah. And that's. So merchandisers must love the fact that you can bring to life different colors in their product then?
Exactly, that's true. So, and especially the the the direction of the light, the amount of the light and the. The type of light if it is ambience or directional light, yeah that creates the whole sense. Yeah. So Alex the last thing I want to show you now in the black box is actually color reproductions, how light color in combination with physical color can change totally the environment. What we see in front of us now is quite white collar natural white color.
So I am now will address to a more. Fixed color, Yeah, monochromatic color. And you can see also on the colors now that they did totally changed tremendously the atmosphere depending on how much content from the light. Yeah, you really saw the greens picking up a little. Lose exactly. Once again you see how the picks up. So if there are no relations in between the light colors and physical colors. There are no lights to reflect and you can actually see also that some of the colors will
totally appears differently. So do you do you work with visual design people to sort of help them understand which colors are going to bring out the best or the most vibrant environments? I would say it's a part of the lighting design process. Definitely. It's a part of the process to guide the clients picking the right light. And then we see color light as a trend, it will come Now once again color light has been a trend here and there, but now it's a trend again.
And we see that that will have a deep impact on the customers experience. And therefore also we need to learn our customers how to use or the clients how to use color light because it had will have a deep impact on on on the appearance and and the visual quality of the room. So Christian, what? What are we looking at here? Alex here. I'm going to take you to a journey when I will explain the layers of light, the importance of choosing the right level and the right layer of light in
different applications. Now we stand in grocery, so we are going to talk about grocery lighting. Yeah. So first of all we can talk about the ambience, actually the base when we place the light, so if we switched off. The accents, more or less. All of the accents in the store. We will see that. What's an accent? Accent is actually the spotlight's effect when we're highlighting the product. Oh, wow. Right. OK. So now we take down and only
talking about the ambience. What we have here is actually an ambience, which is some people call it dark light effect. It's more or less that you don't see where the light come from, you only see the effect connected to. People sometimes talk about luxury experience. Yeah, more smoother experience. Yeah, this feels like I'm going to dwell. I'm going to discover more. I'm going to hang around more. Exactly. It will hang around more. Wow, the first layer that we
have before lighting you rake. You hang around. More yeah, the lighting can make you hang around more but but but it also set the whole mode, so I will say that this first layer is more or less the most important one. Because it set the mood. So if you follow me here Alex, I will show you a little different way of approaching the first
layer, the ambience. So Christian, we we were just looking at sort of a dwell, a slow discovery type experience, but you were telling me that you can also create a fast-paced experience. Yeah, we set the hood depending on on on on the, on the atmosphere and and.
And the type of shopping for here example we we have more or less the same lux level, but we have a higher brightness experience because we now showing the luminaire and we creating a much more smoother ambient at still higher level. So it's more about speed shopping, making decision fast, creating the selections fast without having the motor set that maybe stays make you stay a little bit longer in the store. So that is what I want to show you here.
Completely different approach from the glare of lighting to the hybrid situation we have here that makes you shop fast and quickly. OK, Alex, now it's time to take a look onto the power of accent lighting. And we're talking about the layers that most of the readers are fully aware about how much impact contrasts. And atmosphere directional spotlights can create for the environment. So what we do now is we we we use accents but we have a little bit more cozy atmosphere.
We we rely on the the way that this atmosphere should have a little bit more cozy feeling. We add in the 2700 Kelvin means also that we don't can keep the warm in the luxury level, keep the atmosphere really good and what we do now is that we. The 2700 Kelvin appearance which you can see here which also addressing a much more calmer, relaxing atmosphere.
If I want to go up in speed lot, meaning that it's creating much more speed shopping, then I instead take down the 2700 Kelvin and instead using the more common temperature 3000 Kelvin, which is not a major different but it creates a different for the whole space. So for example in the store you can easily do so that you have one part which is warmer light and one part which is cooler light.
And you can fairly see there is a trend now in retail space is that if we're talking about 3000 Kelvin only as a color temperature before now we much more defining where should we have the warmth atmosphere, where should we have the speed shopping atmosphere, where should we have the experienced atmosphere etcetera, etcetera depending on the space and the goods. So Stefan, tell me what what are we looking at here? Welcome to our retail experience. Centre where we.
Show different ways of of illuminating aisles in a do it yourself store or a grocery store. There are many ways to do that actually, and I will show you the most common way first using a so-called trunking system. This is general lighting, nothing else. It's the light you need. It's a flat light over the whole area. There is no special direction to the light to the merchandise which is actually and you would
like to show. To the consumer, so we can help our consumers a lot by directing the light to the merchandise so you can see what you're supposed to buy and inform yourself. I'm now switching to the more directed light and you can see the difference because now we put all the focus on the merchandise by using directed light. And integrated light in the interior, Let's start with the
directed light. As you can see here now in the back, all light is focused on the merchandise with the right colour temperature in the colour rendering, so you can make an informed choice before you buy. There's very little attract attention to the floor because you can orientate yourself anyway. So I'm now going also to add integrated light into the interior.
To further enhance the consumer experience and the merchandise and as you can see now all the focus is on the merchandise, finding the right colour, making the right choice instead of focusing too much in the floor and on the CD. This is the preferred consumer experience to help made make informed choices, Stefan. Earlier on, we discussed how sustainability is top of mind for a lot of retailers and their costs. How do they do more with less?
I'm just curious, can lighting be a part of that conversation? For sure Alex, it can and and it can actually help that conversation a lot. I mean lighting stands for 17 to 18% of the world's energy consumption and a quite a big part of the OpEx operational cost in a store. Is associated with energy consumption, energy cost for.
So by making sure that you use the latest technology and save on energy when you make your lighting investment, you can help that decision because you free up capital then you can spend on loss prevention and the better enhanced consumer experience. So in that sense lighting is is the perfect investment. Both save cost and you can use
the money. For other very important investments, Christian, earlier when we started our discussion about lighting, you mentioned lighting is art and I can see behind you lighting is art. Talk me through what what we're seeing here. Actually, I mean light can also be used as a communication tool in many circumstances. In this case, we we have made a piece of art, to be honest, Like it or not, it's a. It's a kind of a. Things happen in the store, drag you into the store making light
as a communication. We talked about in the black box you remember about perception value, about looking through things and contrast etcetera. So this is just a simple way to make attention or draw attention to a piece of place in the store like here we are now. You can see from the entrance all the way that something happened there. So it's a kind of a communication. It's like it's not to lit the store, but giving kind of an
emotion I would say. And just out of interest from a design perspective, what's the design process that you go through with customers? It depends a little bit on sometimes hopefully we have to come with IDs. I mean if you know the scope we know maybe also the the brand, then we if the if the customer itself have their own ideas, we of course build in our solution into the idea. If the lack of ideas we oftenly come with rendering studies.
Or it could be. Mood boards or whatever, just to make them aware about the all the possibilities they have to make different kind of emotions. Yeah, Chris mentioned that you offer us the design solution service. Or something. That's right. We have you at the support of our offer. We, I would say in in the most of our cases we use in this solution design process as you say the selection of choices of our brand portfolio, but also how we combine that together to.
Make it easier for the retailer to operate in the store, make the loss prevention but also the atmosphere for the for the customer as well. So it's a kind of a workflow workflow chart you can say, to take all parts of the design process in consideration. That's brilliant. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks, Alex.