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The Ramble Refinery with Heather Sager

Heather Sagerwww.heathersager.com

You can’t spell message without mess—because big ideas don’t show up fully formed. They start rough, unrefined, and a little all over the place. But that’s not a problem, it’s part of the process.

The best speakers, thought leaders, and business owners don’t wait for the perfect message—they refine it by showing up, sharing, and shaping their ideas in real time.

That’s what The Ramble Refinery is all about.

Welcome to the place where we normalize the messy middle of speaking, marketing, and business growth. Whether you’re leading workshops, speaking on stages, or showing up on podcasts, your voice isn’t just a marketing tool—it’s your most valuable business asset.

Hosted by Heather Sager, a speaking coach and business strategist who helps experts get their ideas out of their heads and into the world, this podcast dives into the raw, unpolished side of refining your message, using your voice, and growing your impact.

Because every great message starts as a mess—so get ready to ramble.


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Episodes

Why I’m Ditching the Perfect Plan [Spring Refresh Series]

Final Episode of the Spring Refresh Series After a little break from the podcast (because life + business, you know how it goes), I’m back— and bringing you a personal reflection and an honest convo to wrap up the Spring Refresh Series. In this episode, I’m sharing a behind-the-scenes peek at what’s been going on in my brain (and life ) — the pace changes, the unexpected clarity, and the messy in-between where decisions don’t come easy. We talk about the illusion of slowing down, the pressure to...

Jun 26, 202537 minEp. 242

What If Stress Is Driving Your Business Decisions? With Rebecca Vigelius [Refresh Series]

Episode 4 of the Spring Refresh Series You already know when it’s time to make a change. But what if the way you’re deciding is the real problem? In this episode of The Ramble Refinery , I’m joined by my client and friend Rebecca Vigelius , a former VP turned copywriter turned certified neurosomatic intelligence practitioner and stress coach. We dive into the untold truth behind her bold business pivot—one that was less about courage and more about capacity. This isn’t just another “follow your ...

May 22, 20251 hr 6 minEp. 241

How Kristina Bleiler Broke Her Own Rule and Started Teaching DIY Design [Refresh Series]

Episode 3 of the Spring Refresh Series What if refreshing your business isn’t about changing everything — but simply making room for more of what you’re being called to do? In this episode of The Ramble Refinery , I’m sitting down with brand designer and strategist Kristina Bleiler of Gem Creative Co. to unpack what it really looks like to expand your service-based business without walking away from what’s already working. Kristina didn’t blow up her brand design studio. Instead, she added a who...

May 15, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 240

When It’s Time to Pivot: A Real Talk with Ellen Yin [Spring Refresh Series]

Episode 2 of the Spring Refresh Series This week's episode of The Ramble Refinery is your permission slip to pivot boldly and follow your curiosity. I pulled one of my fave throwback interviews with the brilliant Ellen Yin, founder of Cubicle to CEO out of the vault—and it could not be more relevant for anyone feeling a little burn-it-all-down-but-make-it-strategi c about their business. You’ll hear: What it really means to pivot with purpose (hint: it’s not about starting from scratch) How Elle...

May 08, 202550 minEp. 239

Before You Burn It All Down [Spring Refresh Series]

Episode 1 of the Spring Refresh Series Ever feel like blowing up your entire business? Same. But before you start rewriting your offers, scrapping your website, or launching into a full rebrand, this episode is your gut check. In the first episode of the Spring Refresh Series (happening the entire month of May), I’m walking you through one of the most common (and misunderstood) urges business owners face: the need to burn it all down. I’ll share why that urge shows up, what it might really be tr...

May 01, 202548 minEp. 238

Want More Speaking Gigs? Rethink Your Approach

If you’ve been googling “where to find speaking gigs” trying to land more opportunities by pitching every event you come across, it’s probably feeling...exhausting. And if you’re still hoping there’s a magical list that’ll land you a dozen dream stages overnight — I’ve got to be honest, that’s not how it works. In this episode of The Ramble Refinery , I’ll show you why that approach rarely gets you what you’re actually after — and what to do instead. I’ve talked about this before on the show, bu...

Apr 24, 202542 minEp. 237

You Crushed the Talk... So Why Do You Feel Like Crap?

Ever given a talk, walked off the stage, felt the rush of "HECK YES I nailed that!"—and then bam, hours later, you’re deep in the land of second-guessing and spiraling, you start replaying everything that went wrong? In this episode of The Ramble Refinery , we’re talking about that weird emotional dip that hits right after a big visibility moment—the one no one warns you about. It’s more common than you think, especially when you’re pushing your edge and stepping into bigger rooms. You’ll hear: ...

Apr 17, 202523 minEp. 236

What Does "Go-To" Really Mean (And How Do You Become It?)

Being the "go-to" isn’t about being the best at what you do. It’s about being the one people recommend and reach out to without hesitation . In this episode of The Ramble Refinery , I’m breaking down the real difference between being an expert—and becoming the one people actually think of when the moment counts. You’ll hear: Why most experts stay overlooked (and what sets the go-to’s apart) A spicy take on why trying too hard actually pushes people away What makes someone referable (hint: it’s n...

Apr 10, 202534 minEp. 235

Radical Responsibility & Speaking Like a Thought Leader

Your audience doesn’t need more tips, templates, or content. If information were enough, they’d already have what they want. What they actually need is leadership—and that starts with how you show up. In this episode of The Ramble Refinery , we’re talking about what leadership really looks like inside a personal brand. Not the curated version—the kind that shows up when launches flop, timelines shift, or things feel… off. You’ll hear: The hard truth about why people aren’t paying attention (and ...

Apr 03, 202539 min

Sounding Like 'You' on Stage Starts with Ditching This One Habit

There’s this weird thing that happens when smart, articulate business owners get asked to speak: They start sounding… weird. They say stuff like, “What if I told you…” They parrot lines from mentors they admire. They stiffen up, overthink, and suddenly sound like a motivational quote generator instead of a real human. In this episode, I’m sharing where that habit comes from (spoiler: it’s not confidence—it’s ego), why it’s a sign you haven’t fully nailed your speaker identity, and what to do whe...

Mar 27, 202544 minEp. 233

Welcome to the Ramble Refinery 🎉

Welcome to The Ramble Refinery ! After a year-long hiatus, the podcast is back—but with a whole new vibe. In this kickoff episode, I’m sharing the messy, real story behind the rebrand, why I almost launched seven different shows, and what finally clicked. We’re talking about: 🎤 The truth about refining your message in real time (instead of waiting for perfect) 🎤 Why second-guessing your ideas is actually part of the process 🎤 What you can expect from The Ramble Refinery moving forward If you’...

Mar 13, 202519 minSeason 2Ep. 232

Hustle vs Busyness: How I Work Without the Grind

Ok real talk— I almost didn't hit publish on this episode. After I finished recording I had serious “wait— I can’t publish that trainwreck of a ramble” thoughts. But lately, I’ve been craving far more rambles and far less polish. And if that’s you too— then hit play, because this one might just be what you need to hear. Today we’re talking about hustle and why I will proudly continue to make it part of my life (why should we all should stop feeling guilty for working our tails off from time to t...

Mar 28, 202437 minEp. 231

5 Strategies for Tailoring Your Talk for Different Audiences

Ever wondered how to tailor your message when you have multiple audiences? Or how to change up what you talk about for different groups? In today's episode, I've got the answers you've been searching for. Get ready to level up your speaking game and leave every audience feeling like you are speaking to JUST them. Hint: Grab your notepad because this episode is packed with actionable tips, Spicy Sager rants, and captivating stories you won't want to miss. Here's a sneak peek at what's in store: t...

Mar 21, 202453 minEp. 230

The Truth About Extemporaneous Speaking

I’m typically a plain spoken word kinda gal, but today we’re getting fancy. The word? Extemporaneous. The meaning? Spoken or done without preparation. Said another way — speaking “off the cuff”. As someone who makes money teaching others how to intentionally structure a message, it would be easy to dismiss the power of this word. But the truth is— extemporaneous speaking is one of the most powerful skills you must develop as a business owner. And today’s episode will get you started Here’s a sne...

Mar 14, 202437 minEp. 229

My G.O.O.D Plan for 2024

I’m wired for goal setting. Chasing that next mountain top of ambition is in my DNA. But when the ball dropped into 2024 and everyone else was hunkering down, massive year on the wall calendars and color coded post-its in hand, I felt ZERO ambition for planning. But what I did feel was a desire to get quiet and reconnect with something I didn’t know I needed which led to an entirely new way (for me) of goal setting. So in today’s episode I’m sharing with you my G.O.O.D Plan for the year (along w...

Feb 29, 202434 minEp. 228

Nail Your Stand-Out Speaking Topics - Exclusive Coaching Session

We’ve all heard versions of the phrase “there are really no new ideas” and “there are thousands of people who do what you do”, so when it comes to speaking on platforms and stages… How do you talk about something that has already been heard? How do you find an angle that’s unique and refreshing? How detailed or broad should your topics be? Can I talk about stories? Does it all have to be “teachy” how to? So. Many. Questions. And if you’re anything like my clients, the truth is you have DOZENS of...

Feb 22, 20241 hr 10 minEp. 227

Special Comeback: My Copywriter Interviews ME!

And we’re BACK baby! Quite literally. I had a baby and had every intention of keeping this show going while I was on leave, but… life surely LIFE-ED me. On this special comeback episode, we flipped the script and my copywriter, Sara Vartanian (who knows my business and my offers better than anyone), took the host seat to interview ME about the biggest rollercoaster of a year in biz (and life) yet. From ending a partnership, rebranding the podcast (again), rebranding the biz (again), launching a ...

Feb 15, 20241 hr 11 minEp. 226

RECAST: My 5 Best On Camera Speaking Tips

Struggling to best present yourself in front of camera? Here are my 5 best on camera speaking tips to help you come alive, look natural and also connect with your audience more effectively than ever. Touching on tips to equip you with things to consider, questions to ask yourself, lenses to look through so that you can fill in the gaps to be more engaging, effective and entertaining when you're speaking on camera. Quick note: this episode originally aired two years ago, so a few things mentioned...

Dec 14, 202346 min

RECAST: Is Your Message Being Ignored? Make This One Change to Stand Out and Resonate with Your Ideal Person

I don’t have to tell you that getting your message noticed in this era of CONTENT OVERLOAD takes work. But did you know that you could actually be causing your ideal client to pass right by your amazing tips and juicy insights? It doesn’t matter how deep your experience or good your results, if your ideal client never hears, what chance do you have for them to love it, sign up for your free guide or join your program? In today’s episode, I’ll share with you one of the top mistakes I help my clie...

Dec 07, 202331 min

Messaging Strategies To Captivate Your Audience Without Going Over Their Head: A Live Coaching Session

Could you accidentally be trapped in expertise overdrive? If your audience is smiling, nodding and saying, “Oh, that’s really interesting,” you’re facing a common problem of many online entrepreneurs–you’re overwhelming your audience. In this recast episode from The Art Of Online Business Podcast, I live coach Rick Mulready’s co-host Kwadwo (pronounced “Quayjo”), through a powerful exercise to tailor your message so your expertise never goes over your audience’s heads again. I’ve never shared th...

Nov 30, 202349 minEp. 225

Why Aren’t More People Doing Sales Calls?

In the online space we’re fed this idea that selling should be hands off–but could skipping sales calls be doing your business a disservice? By bypassing one-on-one sales conversations in favor of automated funnels, videos or webinars what kind of critical information could we be missing about our customers? Inside this episode I spill the details on how selling has shown up and evolved in my own career, both corporate and online business. Plus, I share insights to help you decide if sales calls...

Nov 21, 202358 minEp. 224

How To Pick What To Work On Next: 3 Powerful Pillars For Business Growth

Think of your business as a three-legged stool…miss the mark with one (or neglect it) and the whole structure topples over. As a business owner, your most vital role is making sure there’s a balance between all 3 legs—or as I call them pillars–so you can find the right growth path for this season of your business. Inside the episode I break down my 3 powerful pillar strategy to help you focus on the true needle movers as you build your thought leadership business. Whether you’re at $500k+ or on ...

Nov 16, 202355 min

Do these 4 Things to Finish The Year & Set Business Up for 2024 (no fancy planning required)

Planning can be a brilliant tool, or a form of procrastination. Visions of what *could* be. And as we follow the plan, we quickly realize that the ideal map we’ve chosen to follow… looks quite a bit different than the reality we’re faced with. It happens in our personal lives AND our businesses. Each year, entrepreneurs take the internet biting walk calendars, post-it notes and colorful pens to dream, map and plan out their perfect year. And if you’ve been a big planner in the past, yet still ar...

Nov 09, 202350 minEp. 222

Let’s Talk About “Deadlines” & Self-Created Stress

When was the last time you felt “stressed” in your business? Chances are: recently. As a business owner, you might have adopted the reality that stress is just part of running a business. I’m not here to tell you that I’ve figured out the secret formula to deal with stress (spoiler: there isn’t one), but I will serve you up some Spicy Heather coaching about the SOURCE of your biggest business stressors. We’ll dig into the dichotomy of self-created stress vs pressure from others, plus my four non...

Oct 26, 202337 minEp. 221

3 Big Takeaways From Hosting The Live 3-Day Signature Talk Accelerator

Holding space for a bunch of brave and bold entrepreneurs for a 3-day live virtual event is no joke. There were location decisions, tech snafus, bloopers, and more than a few happy tears. Get your notepad ready! My event producer, Krystal Proffitt and I demystify live events so you get a clear idea of what to consider and what to ignore. But, beyond the logistical to-do’s, whether you’re hosting a virtual event live, like I did, or are taking the stage for the first (or 25th time) at the end of ...

Oct 19, 202359 minEp. 220

Hate Networking? Graceful Tactics To Grow Game Changing Relationships

Relationship building is a learned skill that becomes an epic growth tool when done right. Chances are though you’ve had some networking experiences that left a sour taste in your mouth. Sneak attack sales pitches disguised as friendly check-ins? Corporate style networking? Pass, pass. This episode is a wake up call packed with tactics on how to build powerful relationships and social currency that ACTUALLY feel good, even if you’re an introvert like me. Plus, I break down how to use my Adjacent...

Oct 12, 20231 hr 1 minEp. 219

Forget Fancy & Other Business Lessons I’d Tell Myself If I Had A Time Machine

Business growth isn’t a high school line graph, rather, it goes up and down depending on the seasons. Want to push past your current revenue? You’ve got to work with the data you got, and keep going–even when it’s messy, and far from perfect. Our ego hates that reality, especially if we’ve had success in the past. In this episode, I’m taking you in a time machine back to the early days of my business to share everything I wish someone had told me, including where to invest my time, money, and fo...

Oct 05, 202342 minEp. 218

Entrepreneurial Insights for Expecting Mothers – A Candid Conversation with Ann K. Emery

Real talk – how do you navigate pregnancy (or any big life change) while running a business? Especially one where you travel and speak? If you’re self-employed planning maternity leave, or if you're simply looking for strategies to strike a healthier work-life balance, this episode will enlighten, inspire and spark new ideas for you. I sat down with one of my long-term clients, successful speaker and trainer, who ALSO is pregnant with TWINS. Between us we have (or are brewing) 8 kiddos and we’re...

Sep 28, 20231 hr 5 minEp. 217

How Relatable Stories Make You Remarkable Featuring Zafira Rajan

Ever wonder how Taylor Swift built her diehard fan base? It's not the glitzy costume changes or famous boyfriends. Taylor's audience can't get enough of her songs because album after album, her lyrics make them feel like they know her. She puts into words the same experiences they're going through too. As business owners, you can forge those same genuine connections that turn you into an audience favorite. The secret sauce? Everyday, relatable stories. When you share these real snippets of your ...

Sep 19, 20231 hr 5 minEp. 216

The Power Of A Signature Talk: Saying Yes & Staying Visible (Even When You’re Swamped!)

In the busy world of entrepreneurship, it’s often challenging to say yes to when opportunities knock. When you’re swamped with work, getting in front of new audiences can take a back seat. It’s all too easy to fall into ‘when/then’ syndrome, promising yourself that you’ll make time later. But visibility helps consistently keep leads and clients coming in the door of your business-so your economic engine can keep chugging along. And the key to keeping it going? Your signature talk. It’s the tool ...

Sep 14, 202351 minEp. 215
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