#331 Out Of Her Cocoon!

should have prepped you with that. I just should have given you that heart hitting question ahead of time. Please, I should have given that to your publicist a couple of weeks. And I just say before we begin, I mean, I guess we've begun. I literally just was driving home from my voice lesson and there's this one corner where they're homeless people. I don't even know if they're homeless they're but they're asking for money on the corner every single time you pull up to the stoplight. And today

one of them was wearing a Pittsburgh Pirates ball cap. Okay, which I only know because there was like a p on it, and I didn't know at the time that's like, that is the cap, but I was like, is that a Pittsburgh Pirates set? And he had an eye patch? Whoa, wow, he was double pirate ing. It was so funny and it wasn't for a bit. I mean, I don't think homeless people are really focused on doing bits um and I hope next time he has a peg leg. It was really funny, and then I realized in you google

Pirates hat, you got to be specific. Oh yeah, because the Pirates. Yeah, it's baseball hat. I'd like that you said ball cap. That felt like an old Saint Louis bad thing to say, Okay, but baseball cap instead. Yeah. What do you call shoes that you run around in for sport? Running shoes, tennis shoes or no, Brian, don't do That's what I mean. Like you call jim shoes running shoes, say yes, running shoes, running shoes that No.

I just don't think anyone calls them that unless they're like specifically running shoes that you buy it like a running store. We should do the Yark Times dialect quiz. Oh, it's so fun I've done that. To you, haven't I, Brian, No, No, every single group of people I've ever hung out with I've subjected to doing the New York Times Dialect quiz. And it's so fun because if you just type that

in you'll find it. You go through all these questions and it just talks about like what do you call those little bugs that roll up in balls that you find under rocks? And like, you answer that question said like multiple choice and some of them are like rolly Polly, some of her like pillbugs, some of her, well again, that wouldn't be then it would be like none of

the above, and they would would they place you? They Finally you go through like twenty five questions and then by the end of it, they can like pinpoint the region of the country that you're from. Wow, what do you call say or what do you call rain on a sunny day? And it'll be like woolf fouling at the moon, like the devil beats his wife and it's like wait, what what? What's so funny? Um? So yeah, check that out some we should do that at some point.

But um, kicking off the show today, I just want to announce um that from now on because we love him so so much. Brian Franjie is now a permanent, the permanent sidekick on the show. So congratulations, Brian, you won. Oh my god. Well it's a it's an honor to be the sidekick. And um, I gotta imagine that, like most things that are new, people will hate me and then slowly they will learn to accept and then you will leave eventually and someone else will come in and

they'll be like, he's nothing like Brian. So whatever you're saying right now, listener, who might be like what, just stop? Okay, because first of all, I think most people are gonna love you because you've been on so much. I think that they have fallen for you as I have, as I just want to do every show with you. So it just was a natural progression of things. But I do I've always made this point. Whenever I've been on a show where I've never been on before, people always

go like who is this? Yeah, who is And it's like, did you And I've said this before in the podcast were you born knowing who Tom Hanks was? There was a moment where you didn't know who Tom Hanks was and you had to go or Meryl Streep or Brad Pitt, Like there's a first for everything, and what I'm saying is Brian Ranjie's or Brad Pitt. Yes, yes, I mean I don't even know who I am half the time. So I mean I feel like if the people don't know, then that's that's right on course with what I feel. Yeah,

that's kind of true. Yeah, that's another part point I always make when people don't like me. I'm like, you have no idea how much I don't like myself. Come at me like, we're on this. We have more in common than we have with than I have with my fans. To be honest with you, you should. We should. So it's it's always funny to me when people don't like that's a fun way to like twist it and be like, well, I'm I'm better at you at hating me than you are.

But we're not talking that way today. We're talking positively. Yes, that is the way I do it. Um now is like every time every everyone on the podcast I think understands that I'm on this, like continual Girls Chat with um Anya, my friend Sarah, Lena, Kirsten, Halla, Taylor, Carlyle, Catherine and Noah's on it too, but it's just overwhelming. And my sister's on it now too, but it's just

so over there. We're constantly chatting on this thing, voice memos, texts, everything, pictures, and it's just like this nice place that you can go. But we so often come on there and vent. And yesterday I was venting about something and at the end of it, I just go But you know what, I don't have to worry about it because I'm a lucky person and everything works out for me. And it really just like nice, it just finishing up any You can rant and you can rave, and you can I think

that's the only two things you can do. You can complain about your life all you want and more power to you get it out. But at the end of it, just book, book and market with But I'm a lucky person and things always work out. It doesn't mean it's going to work out the way you want it to, but it's gonna work out. My fiance Ali did that the other day because of you. Really, yeah, she was doing she was ranting and raving, and she couldn't think

of anything else to do besides those two things. Yes, And then after it she said, but I am lucky and things just work out and this and that. She literally said, I'm saying that because NICKI told me, Oh that's so nice. Thanks Alie, that's so sweet. Well, Um, speaking of like things about you, you have a fiance, Ali, who you were marrying in June. Chris just my boyfriend, Chris just told me he booked UM cabins for us

in Colorado. Um, I'm very excited about your wedding, UM, and it's gonna be a fun little trip for me and my UM boyfriend. I was gonna say fiance, but that's not at all close. But Chris, I thought you were gonna say Chris the post but you know that. I can't wait to say fiance because it's just a cool word. But anyway, we're very excited about that. We wanted to do a little thing um in um you know ingratiating you into the show permanently. I want everyone

to feel like they do know you. So let's do a little burning questions for Bob. Now. This was a segment we originally did for Bob Sagen. He's no longer with us, but it's just a good way to get into some questions for you. Brian. Now, these are going to range between the trivial. And then I did look up I like googled, you know, good to know you questions for like you know companies where it's like very surface, and then I did some like ones for like relationships, intimacy. Okay,

so they're going to run the gamut. You can pass, but I I'd like you not too. Okay, if you can, you know, you'll figure out something. First one is how are you? I think I'm That's all I can say. Usually down, so good, good so far. Yeah. Well, we had a really once one day when I was in LA and we had just done the podcast. We had a breakfast and there are so many layers to you and that we are going to get to know through the course of the show that I hope you share

with us. You're a fascinating person and I did think everything was just going great for you. But you have some complexities to you I'm excited to get into. We're not going to do that right exactly now, but here we go. All right, First question, um, what was your first concert? Oh? Well, uh it was a Creed I want to go at the Jones Beach Amphitheater and I remember it there's there was old are you? There was

a how old am I now? Yeah, thirty five. But there was this girl who, uh this was like this is There was this girl who I liked, was a little older than me, and they were going to see this Creed concert and I like, somehow weaseled my way into uh, you know, this is like Jones Beachampi Theater. This is where the bands go to, you know, have their final whatever and uh what wait, final whatever? You don't You're not gonna get Taylor Swift at the Jones

Beach Ampith Theater. Oh really? Yeah? Oh I feel like today Matthews plays plays Jones Beach. He'll play Jones Beach sometimes. Yeah. So there is like every you have everyone from Creed to Dave Matthews Man. Yeah, you'll have a lot of like um Allman brothers will be there and it's like, okay, we know what the vibe is here. There is this

girl way out. Yeah, there was this girl who I had a crush on, who was a little older than me, who was going to this concert and somehow I weaseled my way into getting tickets with them, and then she didn't come, and I was really upset. That was like my first Oh god, yeah, and I was like a

little too upset. I was like, what the hell, why why wouldn't she didn't make any sense, but Creed, you used to have that constantly, where you would think a crush was going to be someplace and you get all dressed up, you get gussied, and you show up and they're not there or they like called in so they're not doing their set at the cellar that night, and you're all dressed up for no reason, not really no reason. You're going on stage, there are people looking at you.

You should dress up for the audience, but you specifically had like an outfit in mind, and you thought you might get fingered, like there's just things you prepared, and it was a waste. I gotta tell you, there's nothing sadder than being dropped off at a Creed concert. I mean if my parents. I was alone, and yeah, so you were in like eighth grade. I walked away. I don't remember I walked away. I walked away from the my my my dad's car alone to go to see Creed.

That was what you were a fan. I wasn't. I just said that the girl was going to see it. Didn't. Yeah, okay, okay, all right, So that was like ninety nine, two thousand dish maybe later. I don't know, have no idea, But how did you meet how do you know a girl that's older? Did she go to school with you? Yeah? Yeah, she went to school. She was in like the grade above. And uh, it was just like a thing to go to go see his go to this concert. What all the good Christian kids were doing? I mean I didn't

Well that's the thing. Back then it was called Creed, and I don't think people really connected the fact that it was a Christian band. It was just like mainstream. Same with um. She is everything, he is everything humor, he is everything you need, He is everything inside. You know that song Vertical Horizon. They were a Christian band. No one knew. Wow, that's about God. I always used to say, if you want to know who's a Christian rocker, take any song that a man is singing where he's

singing about a man. That is that's the only time men sing about men. As Clay. Yeah, oh my god. I loved Jars of Clay. I love that one. I mean that one song flood Yeah. Um okay, Next question, when did you last cry and what was it about yesterday? Um? I cried several times, blood, I cried. I cannot believe how many times I cried watching binge, watching Love is Blind. Love is Blind. Oh, I cried. I cried a lot because of the love. Or yeah, I mean obviously because

of the wall. I couldn't take the wall. It was squeeze again. So let me guess when you cried. Tiffany and Brett. Their love is so real? Yes, right? My favorite character who fell asleep on Brett and that we thought it was over and then it was like nothing. Can we just say that is a perfect example of, you know, someone being so wounded by something that someone else does. For those of you who don't know, Love is Wideness a show where two people meet in pods.

There's a wall between them. They just fall in love through their voices. Tiffany and Brett were for the first time confessing their love to each other. Tiffany says everything that Brett wants to hear. Brett then returns the love, but Tiffany's had a couple of drinks. You can tell it's late at night. These people are I know, reality shows.

They don't get much sleep. And Tiffany's laying on his couch and she falls asleep to Brett's soothing voice telling her that he loves her, and she falls asleep, and he does. He thinks she left or something like I don't even know what he thinks. He's just like hello, Hello, and then he leaves and in the music is just like this guy's heartbroken. He goes back and he's like, fuck that man. He's talking all the boys back at the house and he's mad. And then you think and

then it's Cliffhanger and they go, oh my god. You go, oh okay, I can't wait to find out what happens. He goes the next episode, and then Tiffany's just like Brett, I am so sorry. She first of all wakes up to her friends coming together. You can tell producers who was like, hey, girls, go in and wake up Tiffany. She's asleep, and she wakes up like singing because they're like singing a song, and she just wakes up singing.

It's really cute, and then she's like dancing and then she kind of pieces it together like oh my god, when did I fall asleep? Oh no, oh no, and she's like I'm so so she apologizes to Brett, and Brett like a real man, like a real human, let's just say, in a relationship, even though he was almost mortally wounded by her falling asleep, he instantly understands her side of things. She's like, I fell asleep. Your voice

is so soothing. I love you so much. I'm so sorry, and he goes, you know what, I think in the end, this is just going to be a funny story between us Boom. He gets on his knee and proposes, I'm not saying get over stuff that quickly, but kind of do okay, Like if someone doesn't mean to hurt your feelings and you apologize and there's a good reason for why it happened, Like I didn't leave the pot, I wasn't ignoring your love. I fell asleep because I'm tired

and your voice is soothing? Can we just like Brett's turnaround for forgiveness was the kind of turnaround I think I have for forgiveness and that I want from others. Oh, I've seen it. I've seen you forgive for much worse offenses than falling asleep. While someone says I love you, I mean, it's really yeah, and like, also, that's not a big deal, like, Okay, she fell asleep, Like there's no reason he should have been that upset in the first place. So that he was having a hard time

with those words because he didn't really receive them growing up. Yeah, it was very vulnerable for him. I thought she might have left or something like we don't know what was going on in his head of like what could have happened,

and so but just the how mad he was. I was thinking, Man, this guy is ruining everything by getting so upset about this and now it's all ruined and I was so upset and then immediately he's just lets it go and it was like that that to me, I just I was so I was so happy for Tiffany because she's picked a guy who is not going to hold grudges and lord things over her, and like I thought he was going to based on his reaction,

It was just did you what do you? Did? You guys think that was kind of like a quick turnaround for how upset he seemed to be and were you Were you as impressed as I was? Or was it kind of I thought they edited it in a way to make us wonder if she might be have like an alcohol abuse problem, because you know, we're like, wait, if this this girl's going to be passing out all the time. Because she had been kind of drink, I thought she had a narcolepsy. I thought the same thing

because they weren't showing her drinking. We only knew that because we saw a bottle and we had to like rewind and see it, so they could have showed her drinking to insinuate that. I don't think that's what they were trying to do. We thought i Arena had narcolepsy. So to have two narcoleptics on one show, sleep the Sleepy Snakes, the sleep sleepy Russian snake that I'm just saying Russian because's Russian and I'm not assinuing Russians or snakes or they're sleepy. It was just funnier to add

a third word there. But she um Irena is the funniest character. Did you cry about her? Brian? No? I know when he cried. Well, I cried for Breton Tiffany many times. And what's her name's photo shoe or they're wearing me on yellow that I couldn't. First of all, she's always dreamed of having this photo shoot. Don't know what I'm talking about Kwami and Chelsea. Kwami did not pick Chelsea right Initially, he wanted Mica, who has like

a very baggy rabbit mouth, but it's adorable. She is like she her mouth is like so sexy, it's sexual, and I want a mouth like that. It sounds like I'm being mean, but it is kind of like. And she like talks like us, and she and actually ended up with a guy who's kind of perfect for her, Paul, and they both kind of talk with like clunch straws and they like don't open their mouths like us. And

Paul is like scientific, He's a science nerd. He's an environmentalist, he um and he looks like he would have gone to Jones Beach to see the others like and then but she so anyway, Paul and Mica end up together. Mica also had a connection with Kwammy. Kwami is head over heels for Mica. Then Mica breaks up with Kwami, goes to Paul and and Kwami then is left. We've seen this happen on seasons before. He is left with choosing his second choice, and he does and he falls

in love with her, and it seems legitimate. They have a great sexual connection. She at one point says that I want to have a spiritual connection with my husband's body. Girls, are you listening to me? If you want to turn a man on so much that he gets a boner through a wall, tell them that you want to have a spiritual connection with your husband's body, they'll marry you tonight. It was so horny. So then they end up together.

It's his second choice. Chelsea, however, great example of a woman that is not going to let the girls from the past affect her. She's not like feeling like a second choice. She's not like woe is me? She knows about Mica, but she is certain that her man chose her, and she is not suffering any kind of like jealousy or insecurities until And we'll talk about that when we get back, and we'll find out why why else? Brian cried? All right, we're back. Did Chelsea and Kwami's relationship make

you cry? No, Chelsea, Kwami is making me so upset because I've never seen someone lie to themselves so many times to justify his relationship with her. He wants out of that relationship so bad much. And Chelsea is to blame too, because she has been dragging him along this entire time, forcing him into decisions he doesn't want to make, and she has been, uh, she's been forcing him to do things and she I forgot what I was gonna say,

and I'm just saying she over and over again. I will say that I was always team Chelsea because this is a confident woman who feels like she knows herself. She is very just like powerful in her body. She has a great posture, she has a great physique. She just like exudes that's true confidence, amazing posture. She has a fun, fantastic rig. I mean her body, her rig is good, best rig on the show. I think she has a good face. She has. She's good. She I like her and I just like who she is. She

seems to know who she is. But you know what, when she was fake as fuck during that little like trying on outfits together when they had gotten into a fight in the morning, do you guys remember what I'm talking about. So we didn't see the fight in the morning, We only hear about it. But this is later on when they're living together. This is about a week out

from them getting married. So what happens on the show is that they meet through a wall, they get engaged through a wall, then they meet in person, and then they go to a vacation like a little honey pre honeymoon for about probably four or five days. Then they leave there and they move in with each other to an apartment in the town that they're both from. This so happens to be this show is like Seattle, PORTLANDY based,

so they're like in the Northwest region. So at this point there and then in four weeks after living together, they get married. So and then at the altar we really decide like what's going to happen here. They kind of keep it. They don't break it off before they get to the altar, which is there's myriad reasons why. It's mostly to do with production and like we just want the show to have the most stakes possible. No one really seems to think that they can just say, hey,

let's date and not get married. That doesn't seem to be an option. People though, it's like the number one obvious thing in the world be like, you know what, maybe we shouldn't get married in twenty days, maybe we should just yeah, well it did kind of happened this season with Zach and Irena and then adding bliss in. Yes, now blissing Zach are getting married, Yes, but they're pressured to marry. There's no like, let's just date because that's

not what the show is. That wouldn't be exciting to watch. There's got to be steaks. And the show is brilliant because it has so many levels, there's so many different settings. It really is one of the best reality shows out there, including Boy. Can I just say F Boy Island is amazing? I have something I want to say about F Boy Island, But can I just say about Kwamie and Chelsea is If you're in a relationship and you find yourself over and over again convincing the other person to do things

you want them, you cut out. Oh, this is hilarious that we lost him on this brand. Now he finally has some because we lost you for all of that. Now we lost you after convincing another person. Well, you can't. If you're in a relationship she where you're convincing the other person over and over again to do what you want, then it's not a good relationship. You can't go through your whole life just forcing a person to do something. Yes,

and those two well, I mean big things. Yeah, it was like, you have to move away from Portland, you can't play soccer ever again, I don't. You can't have your mom's acceptance. I mean, this is insane that this guy is still in this relationship. Yeah, and then it lies to everybody, he lies to himself, to his sexual connection, I think is off the charts. And which can you know? Blind? You? Okay, let's get back to the questions because we can always go off on a Love is Blind tangent and I'm

sure it will come up again. So you cried several times? Was it all Tiffany and Brett related? Was there any other thing in Love is One that made you cry? I don't get it. I'm I'm I think I'm an easy cry because I cried. I just like seeing good people love. Love is Blind is a great reality show because a lot of the characters are actually good. They're good, yeah, they're sweet, yeah, and they're looking for love and they're they're not trying to play a game and when they

actually are trying to find something. I just love watching good people say nice things to each other. Is that? Is there a show like Trump. But you said good people, did you, Brian? Did you know the song that Zach sang when he proposed was a ludo song? Wa? Yes, I didn't even realize that. Yeah, the Blarnie Stone song that Zach who is I will say that when we were watching it together in On the Girl's Trip in Palm Springs, Noah, who has Betten rather quiet the whole

time we're watching. I mean, she comments here and there, but we're all just kind of like absor Noah for the first time takes a struck opinion about Zach. And he's wearing I think he was wearing jeans with a black belt and then black dress shoes. And then he was also wearing a like target kind of um, you know, athletic shirt that is something you'd wear running with your running shoes. It's like a sweat wicking thing. And it

was or like light orange. And he had food on his mouth, and he had his legs on a couch, yes, and he like on a pillow, like in the pillow, you know, like where someone would lay their head, and Noah just goes, ah, he's a wreck. Yeah, so funny. He constantly had frosting. So one said as soon as they saw him as like Taylor goes he has bad breath. He looks like he has a bad breath, bagging on

him so hard. I thought he was so cute. I thought he's cute too, But there were times where I mean it was he's just himself and but yeah, there was a lot of bag He's ah so the song he sang. The reason I'm bringing this up is Ludo is a band that my boyfriend's brother, one of my good friends, Tim and and Brian Frangie's ex roommate Tim Conby was in a band called Ludo. They were huge. Let's go back to two thousand and eight. They were huge. They have massive amounts of fans that like get tattoos.

I mean, Ludo fans are like Swifties, They're like insane fans. But the band broke up in two thousand and eight, but they're still around. And Tim had told me that Love's Blind contacted them because a guy on the show had sang three of their songs. This was a year ago, and so a Love's Blind has already There was a season of Love's Blind that I was like looking for Ludo and he's like, no, it's next season, so they shoot these things far in advance. If you've seen a

picture of Zach now, he looks like a caveman. I mean, this is a while ago this show happened. So he sang a song to propose to Irena, and he said, he said, I wrote this song. They clutch out. Apparently they cut out the part where he said this is a song that I rewrote. Like he was like, it's a ludo song and I wrote it for you, like because he changed some words in it, so like the way that weird al would saying I wrote this song or something, you know, like it was yes, like be

eat it. Yeah, he and everyone got I mean ludo fans. I mean it was a whole thing. Tim Gott like interviewed by publications about like what this guy lying say he wrote your song, and he was like, no, the producers knew it was our song. He had said it was our song. Zach even claims like they cut out the part where I was like, this is a ludo song that I wrote. You know the lyrics too, or he was just nervous about to propose and he was like,

I wrote this song. You know what I'm saying, Like I don't think he was a bad guy, but it was so funny that he's saying he butchered a Ludos song, so you hear that song is nothing like Ludo. That was hard to watch because you know that Irena, on the other side, has no capacity to she got a clue. She that was her first clue this guy might not be what I think he is because if a spoiler alert, Irena does not is not attracted to Zach, but she sees him. She is gross, He's a wreck to her.

She is no, she does not like him at all, and it's shows on her body, like in her body language right away. But I think that song was the first time that she was like, this is a little cringe like. But he was about to propose, so it was like, oh, let this go. It was going on a little long. The other worst part of the show for me, I don't even want to talk about it was when Kwamie and Chelsea sang together that stupid song I'm looking for the real thing, but I don't want

the real thing. But that's perfect for each other because she's like, oh my god, this incredible. She was, Yes, I thought she because she talks about it later to her parents of like he's sang the song. We wrote the song together. It was the worst song I've ever heard. It was it made me. I thought Chelsea was gonna go I'm done, but instead she's sobbing because it's so good. I love that there's a pot for every lid, a

lid for every pot. Like I if someone would sang that horrible song to me and say that they're a guitar player and clearly they're not, Like I mean, I'm not, I'm someone who's bad a guitar, I would never be like I play guitar. I would at least like say I suck, but I kind of can do some stuff. He's like, yeah, I play, and he's just like hitting these basic chords. It's not even good. There's no like it was bad. But she was eating it up. So it's like, it's nice that two dorks can find each

other like this. In his defense, when I was in New York many years ago, I was a contestant potentially. I was a potential contestant on a reality dating show, Wait Dating Around. It was a it was like a game show situation. I didn't make it on the show, but it was a game show situation where a guy would go up in front of a hundred women and then they would start asking you questions and then the women would buzz if they don't want to date you anymore.

And the roll was you need to have at least one woman left at the end of them getting to know you. You get up there, there's like a noise violation, yet buzzing that would be fun. So they asked me, like, do you have any special skills, and um, I said, I play piano, but I don't play that well. And I can't imagine if I went on the show and I actually had to play the piano that it would

have gone any better than what happened with Kwami. But he had the confidence of someone who was good at playing guitar and good at writing songs, and it was that was what bothered me about it, and it was a bad song. I just hated it. That's when I wanted to cry. Okay, back to questions, Uh, Brian, what's the weirdest item you keep by your bed beside your fiance who's not in bed with you and isn't a separate bed across or your dog Jack. It's like my

scream pillow. Well, recently I got this black turmaline stone. So this is a stone that absorbs negative energy. Uh oh yeah, I'm not I'm not really like a stones guy, but I have a stone more of the Beatles, Yeah, I'm more of a more reveals Nikki. A termaline stone is what I bought a guy that I liked a lot and couldn't stop giving gifts to. Oh no, oh no, that was so bad. I'd be like in Mexico, the

same guy I bought the rug for. In Mexico, I was like, also, I found a termaline stone because he once said he had a bunch of negative energy around him, and I was like, I got this from NYA. Do you believe in them? No, when you're when you're desperate, you'll believe in anything. So when I was heartbroken, I had so much rose Courts shoved up my vagina or wherever that I was like, Okay, whatever you guys told me to do. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. That's

so funny about him termaline. Where do you think he's he has that? Now? Do you think he still has it in his life? It's where the Mexican rug is somewhere storage you're hoboken. Yeah, god, it's And for those of you who don't know what we're talking about, girls do not give men gifts before they're before they're in love with you. But bliss, babe. Maybe As for Zach and she didn't get picked, I think that works in reverse too. I think, don't get women gifts before before

you're a thing. I mean, there's nothing that looks more desperate than a man, like if you do, don't show up to a first date with flowers, don't be like the second date like, oh you mentioned that you like, you know, puzzles. But for some reason, we do it because we think what it'll get people to like us more. And again it doesn't like no gift, no matter how much she needs it or wants it, like, don't do it because it just makes you look servile and weak.

And for a girl to do that for a guy, it really I don't know what it biologically does to a man. Noah or Anya, do you know why giving a gift to a guy repels them? He was repelled anyway, But yeah, I think I don't know if the guys get repelled by it necessarily. Well, that's what doctor Pat Allen says, don't buy them gifts. So what's the logic behind that? Do you know behind not getting them stuff? Yes, before you're in love. It's mommy ish, she says. That's

a good point. Yeah, it's a turn off. I think because mom want to take care of you and bake you things and make your lunch. The guy actually wants to nurture, which is mean. I have a theory that if if you get someone a gift early on, that puts you in a lesser position than the other person, and it's just a sign that things are not going well, Like you're in a desperate position and you were trying to balance it by showering them with gifts, and that

just already means that this is not working Allan says. Guys, she says, it's you're robbing a guy of the opportunity to court and he wants to woo you, and part of wooing is gifts later or like taking you to dinner. Yeah, I don't know that it's really Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think we forget that men like the chase, even though no one seems to really like the chase. You like to earn things when when um,

you know, like the whole zempic thing. I just want to give a statement on ozempic real quick in the middle of these questions, because I've been meaning to do this for a couple episodes and I keep forgetting so

it came up. People are mad about Even I was like, I see there's a certain celebrity who lost a lot of weight recently, and you can tell she's someone that has been struggling to be thin her maybe her entire career, and but suddenly she's thin and um, and everyone you know in her comments always writes ozempic, go zempic, like oh oh, oh, oh, zempic, Like they're just just bullying

her about it. And I and I was thinking about it, and I go and even I have this thing of like, oh, she just uses a zempic and like mad about it. How really is that different? Because because what people will argue when they say ozempic is bad is that it's bad for you. She's going about the unhealthy way of losing weight, right when really you're just jealous you don't have ozempic, or that you aren't doing it, like you're jealous that someone has a shortcut to look good. That's

what we're really jealous about. Let's be honest with ourselves. Don't couch this whole. I don't like ozempic because I'm worried about their health. You don't give a fuck about another woman's health. I just don't believe it. I don't what you are are jealous. This is for me at least. I'm jealous that someone's doing a shortcut thing, and I

want to be able to do that shortcut. I don't want to work out and diet and exercise in all these things, or have a spiritual connection with God and my body and forgive myself and forgive my parents, and work through trauma to process my food addiction or whatever is making me the weight I don't want to be.

I just want to take ozempic. And I'm jealous. Now, if you really are worried about these women's weight, why is it that when they work out and they diet and they starve themselves and they fit into these little dresses, we all go good for them. They did it, because you know what, it's the same thing. It's just as unhealthy as ozempic. You're not worried about their health. You are just jealous. That they did the fast track. And you know what, I'm kind of happy for these people

that have ozempic. There's some people who being a thin and let's be honest, being a thin person get you things. In this world, there is there's a completely bias and discrimination against fat people. It's just as a thing. There's no denying it. I'm not saying anything outrageous here. So for someone who's always struggled with their weight to always feel like, man, if I just got thin, I would be I would have this new kind of life I

would have would life would be easier. I'm happy that these people have something now that they can take, and I know that they are negative side effects, you like puke your brains out, or you get really sick, or you diarrhea forever. And also people are saying, oh, people with actual diabetes can't get the medication. Are you really worried about people with diabetes not getting my medication? I don't think you are. I think you're jealous that someone

has a shortcut and they're gonna be thin. But I'm already thin. I'm not jealous. Well, I think you're jealous that other people are gonna be thin too, and rob you of some of your little thin privilege. That's what I think, and that is my final Stunano ozempic take ozempic. I don't give a fuck. I'm happy that you have finally something that is going to get you the thing that you think is gonna make your life happy, even though you're gonna realize every problem that you have is

still on the other side when you're thin. But there is no question that your life will be different as a thin person because our society is so discriminatory against fat people. So there's I've changed my whole outlook. I used to like hate people that use ozempic. I was judgmental. I was just like, oh, she's used a zempic, and I would just like zoom in. I would send it to any and be like, look at ozempic. Another ozempic, azempic.

But I to be like, look at the ozempic. Yes, I love judging, let me ask you this, and I love writing people's hard work off and guess what, o zempe cause a thousand, like thirteen hundred dollars a month. You're telling me that's not hard work to earn that kind of money and to shoot yourself in the stomach and puke your brains out, mark in diarrhea everywhere all months. They should share that. Okay, sorry, they didn't do the Tracy Anderson method. They're both they needed to share. She's

doing that experience. That's how you get not that's how you knock. It's showing up skinny and being like I'm skinny now without showing the work. I think that's why people like working out. They want to see diarrhea and be like, I'm having such a hard time, and then you can say I'm skinny, and then people will appreciate you, and then people know she worked for it, she earned it. But just know that people knowempic are shitting their pants

they have to wear a diaper with that size to dress. Well, it's not It's not a good I mean, I don't think it's always like that for everyone, but I've read enough about it to see if I should try it. That it is that is it's not fun. You have to first of all, you have to stab yourself in the stomach with a needle once. Awie, It's like, this is not fun. So let's cut these people some slack. If they are using ozempic and if they're not telling

us the whole story. What's fucking new with Hollywood? You know? Or do you think that everyone's telling the whole truth about what they do for their hair, for their skin, for their like nails. They're all lying to you about everything, So this is just one more thing they're lying about. Except the housewives that are like, yeah, I don't know zempic. We all are. I'm not going to show up to the reunion. Fat. I got on Ozempic as fast as

I could. One recently said yeah. She was like, yeah, I was the last one to get on it because I didn't want to show up at this thing. Fat and everyone else's thin. She goes, I go to dinner with these girls, No one eats anymore. We just don't eat anymore. They you know, they're saving money on the green rooms for these reunions. But I just had this realization though of like so much of my judgment, and I've said it a million times, it always stems from

a jealousy of they even nepotism. People so mad about nepo babies. What are they supposed to do? What are they supposed to do if they want to be an actress and their parents are actresses, do you just not do it? And also I'm jealous they have they have a leg up and they were born with probably good acting genetics as well. That probably constitutes a good reason, which to me constitutes a good reason why they should

have a foot in the door already. Like, if your parents are both actors, you're probably going to be a good actor. You should get an audition for the role. And it's just you know, all these things that we can ask you this fast tracks. It's like if you just jez for so. In the comedy world, you know, we've all done open mics, then worked our way up

and slogged for years and years. Well, cosy, how do you feel about somebody who got on TikTok in twenty twenty, gained a million followers and now is getting spots at the comedy store without having done stand up for more than like a year or two. How could you blame them? How could you blame them? They grew I you know, I'm jealous because they got on TikTok, they did a fast track and by the way, they're not gonna be

good at stand up. They're gonna get good because they're gonna get the spots and everything, but they're not gonna be good until they put in the ten years of stage time that they could probably fast track in five years with their work ethic. But the fact that they blew up on TikTok is not their fault, is not something they could control. It's luck and obviously something they hit on, something that you know, I'm always kind of shitting on people that are on TikTok are famous on there,

or at least I used to. Now I really see it as like that's a talent that I don't have. I don't. I just don't have it in me to get on TikTok and do those things. And so I can't begrudge them. But is it stand up? No? Do they have an opportunity to become a very good stand up quicker than most people, Yes, and they probably will, But getting good at stand up, I mean you can't.

You can't fast track that, do you Guys? Get ever, like ever get bummed out about these people that do get big on the internet and then now they have they're selling out shows in theaters. But then you'll watch clips of theirs and you can see they're just not objectively funny they're not. They're just they have a good personality, but these jokes aren't good. But then do you ever wonder like, oh wow, this is deluding people's idea of what is actually funny. Yes, Remember I went to go

see and I couldn't. Yes, but I wanted to so badly because it made me disgusted with where we are communically. Yeah, I feel that way all the time. That But then, you know, here's what prime example. I put this on the Instagram. You might have seen me bitching about it. You know the new Barbie trailer they did anyone to

see that, everyone's talking about it. There's this one shot where Barbie takes her foot out of a heel right and her foot stays the shape of the Barbie foot pointed right, and she walks around and you can see that she's maybe gonna walk around it's gonna And people are losing their goddamn minds over this. They love it. People are like, I, well, I this has changed my life. This has changed the topography of my subdivision. Like people are like, people can't. I mean, there was this whole

there were a couple of days. I don't know if you saw it on in social media. It's all a marketing campaign by the Barbie Movie. By the way, they said, we'll pay these influencers to lose their mind about how genius this that we kept her foot that way, and the Barbie movie, if you've heard anything, no one knows anything about it. There's no trailer beyond that. So the only thing they're giving you is this one joke. It's not that good of a joke. You could think of

it person who's never done comedy in your life. A Barbie's If we make a Barbie movie, let's maybe make her foot like the let me let me make another guess about this. Yeah, it's it's just exactly that's that's where Barby's feed. Guess. Barbie's gonna get some point in the movie, gonna have someone give her a tamp on and say where am I gonna put this? No way? Or someone's gonna be like a or is gonna be like a baby nursing, and she's gonna be like, I

don't have a nipple. We're gonna see and people are gonna go, oh my god, you're yes. Where It's like, come on, everyone, let's get real. How can you think that is so funny? Do. That's what I wrote on my history was, have you guys seen Veep? How are you alive? If you are losing your fucking mind because this Barbie foot thing? How do you survive an episode of Veep without just running into traffic? That it's so brilliant because Veep is the funniest show that's ever been.

Let's tross in thirty Rock, Let's tusson arrested Development. Um, these are the these are the top notch comedy, like, let's say, the funniest things that aren't like too cerebral. I mean, Veep can be, but um that it does make me worried when I see how low the bar is. But then I go, but then I love it beca because I'm like, I already think I'm low bar sometimes where I watched John Mulaney and I go, what the

fuck am I even doing? You know, like this is just so precisely written, and every word is chosen specifically to make this bid is essentially word. I don't know. It's just so good that I feel like what am I doing? And then I'll watch someone doing crowd work at New York Comedy Club in a clip and I go and it's has like a million views, and I go, okay, well I'm better than that, So this is that makes me feel good sometimes as a musician, do you feel that way on you about musicians that like you or

like this person sucks. Don't you realize don't you think they're gonna be found out? It's just gonna be a one hit wonder and they're gonna be found That's what I always think of, people are gonna you know, I think I'm in a cynical place in life where I'm like, I don't get so much of what's radically popular and just like objectively popular that maybe I'm just fringe and I'll just stay over in my area listening to the

stuff I like to listen to. But the most important thing is to be true to yourself, you know, Like, right, as long as I'm authentic and making music, I like, that's cool. But when I start writing, Like when I spent a lot of time in Nashville writing for other people and with other people, I was like, I can only do this for a short amount of time before I start feeling like my soul is dying a little bit. And you know, I can write a pop song I don't enjoy it though, Like I just tend to enjoy

stuff that's a little different. You could write a pop song. I mean, I don't know if you had the choice, if the devil came to you and said you're going to write a pop song, it's going to be like this the most basic pop song, but it's going to give you ten million fans, And then would you take that choice? And then but then people would be always demanding that pop song only if only if someone else would sing it. And so you don't want to sing

a pop song? No, really, I don't want to know, not if I don't like I've written songs that I've released songs. Actually you are pop songs that are poppy and people like. But I find myself going, I don't really want to feel I don't feel like singing that. Like some other guy wrote this, he wrote seventy five percent of it, so I'm not connected to it. And I noticed that, and I'm like, I just don't want to do that again. It not that I regretted. It was fun and I think those songs are great and

people relate to them. But I really enjoy playing and singing stuff that I wrote and came up well. I think that that's a common thing in comedy that takes so long to weed out because you start from a place of what do other people want to hear? Whereas I think musicians a lot of times start from I mean, I can't speak to it, but I think you start from musicians are just so soulful and are so compelled

to get what is happening in their hearts out. I just feel like comedians are more just like you're like frontal cortex of like just thoughts, and like they don't they aren't trying to convey a feeling, whereas musicians have feelings that need to get out, so they start running from a place it's more authentic than comedians do, Whereas I think comedians eventually end up more authentic once they find their voice, but they struggle in the beginning, and

you try to just give people what they want. Like, no one knows how to be good at comedy right away. No one really nails their voice right away. I think what's so cool about what you guys do is that you you are so like The greatest comedians that I enjoy are the ones that really speak from their own unique perspective, which is often so weird, but they're like they can't help it. They're just like saying what is? And those are the people I think, are you know

the best? Like you do that? I think Amy does that. She has such a unique voice. Just people that like a tell and like I just saw Jim Norton over the weekend and I was fucking blown away talking about his trans girlfriend and living with her, and he's like, I hate liberals, I hate Trumpers, but I kind of see and it was like he completely connected to everyone in the room. We were so on board, and I was like, at one point, I'm thinking, like this guy

needs to for president. Like he's just making sense, but he's he's like speaking from the heart and he has such a weird, unique perspective he's coming from. Jim Norton is the first comedian. It's funny you bring him up when we're talking about like knowing yourself and writing from a true place. He's the first comedian that I ever heard talk about like like being molested maybe or like

being like doing weird sex stuff. As a kid, he had this joke called or like story about called monster Rain and that he would share on Obie and Anthony Show. And this was two thousand four when I heard this, and it blew my mind that he admitted to as a kid, he would play a game called Monster Rain with and he's a straight man. He dates trams women, I believe, but he's a you know, he's not. I don't think he. I mean, I don't know what he's into.

It doesn't matter. But it was the first time that a guy that I assumed was straight shared a story of blowing another boy underneath a deck because they would Monster Rain and they would run under this like porch and they would blow each other. And I couldn't believe that he was on this really hyper masculine show Opie and Anthony admitting to this, and it was it. Yes, I could not believe. I loved it because it grossed me out, like it disturbed me. But it was so honest.

It was like unapologetic, not that he would need to apologize, but it was just um that it was just so cool to me. It was authentic, and it's like, and he's a good person at heart, you know, Like I don't want to hear someone be authentic and a bad person like I get andertained is not an authentic person, but he's just like pure evil. I don't really I don't want to hear his authentic side either, But Jim

Norton's a good person. I want to no matter what his thoughts are, I want to hear them because the baseline I know he's like kind of a good person, you know. Yeah. So um, okay, we have more questions for Brian when we get back, and I also have to talk about my Taylor Swift experience and just all the Taylor Swift news that's going on. So we'll finish up questions when we get back and talk all about Taylor. Stay here all right, Brian. Um, besides wallet, keys, iPhone?

What is always in your fanny pack? Oh? Um, chopstick? No, I don't use chapstick. Oh good, Okay, um, I good. I don't want to show. Yeah, I have a little vial of advil pills. Okay, I've got a little vial of No. I got a kick out of that, of course you do. That's the tube. Yeah, I like those the tubes. I have dramamine and zer tech. Um, I have a hand tramamine. What are you are going on boats often? Or you get car set? I'll use it

on the plane. I'll use it, okay, Remember but just in your fanny pack day to day, just in case you could invite it. Yes, yes, I'll well, you know I don't want to. I want to have it all in there, just to feel secure that I'll have it when I need it. Okay. Um, I have my key, I have my hand sanitizer, little little bottle hands which is great for the gas station, and a little headphone headphones in a little in a little ziplock bag. Do you have, um AirPods? No, I have wired head m

I want wires. You want to wire? Okay? The amount of times I've seen someone, yes, EarPods fall off and fall on the dirty ground and then they have to pick it up and then and then they get an ear infection like me, Yeah, it's happened. It's happened. Yeah. Um. What I will say is that I was in La a couple of weeks ago, and I went to the bathroom and I came out of the bathroom and there were two air pods on the floor, loose, two air pods. I went into the bathroom, they were not there. I

was alone in a bathroom. It was like they fell out of nowhere. They're right in front of my stall on the floor. I picked them up. I'm looking for the case because it looks like the case spell and they flew. The case is nowhere to be found. I check every stall. I walk out into the lobby and I decide I'm gonna keep these. I'm not gonna because I go Chris, I got AirPods, and he was like, you should, you should give him to the front us. And I'm like, I don't think anyone's coming back for these.

And I got an empty case at home, and I know that you can just like switch about. Now. What you can do is I have so many pairs of air pods. I know that you can. They can go to sleep in different little air pod homes like in the cases. But you cannot have a left AirPod and a right AirPod from separate air pods and combine them to make one. But you can switch them out to different homes. So I have tons. I've lost air pods before, So I have tons of these little you know, the

little floss containers. They look like flosses, And so I took them home. There they belong to a woman named Grace and she's still tracking them. I get info on my phone all the time that says Grace is tracking them. Can I just say, I've never used these air pods except one time at the Taylor Swift concert because I forgot UM headphones or I forgot UM ear plugs, and so I was either going to go deaf or I was like, you know what, I'm going to use these.

So I put them in my ears, UM, and I kind of wiped them off on my shirt so you know they were clean, and then um, and then I plugged them in when I got home and it came up. So, if Grace is listening, if you lost your AirPods at the Low Lows Live in LA in the bathroom, um, a few weeks ago, I will send them to you. I feel bad that I have them. I'm not using them.

I'm going to give them to Taylor, who is a friend that like doesn't care about stolen merchandise, because I'm scared that she's going to track me down and murder me because they can still track them. Wow, if she's still tracking them, that's a lot. If anyone knows at a hotel, she could be from anywhere, because there was at a hotel. This is I learned my lesson. I thought I was going to get away with something you'd be able to use. When her name showed up, I

was like, this is someone's I can't use these. I shouldn't do it. You know, it was tempting and I could use them. So is she getting alerts? Sit there and I'm sure she's fascinated by it, just like you would be, just like anyone would be like, who this fucking bitch stole my fucking phones? And so I'm like, when your brother in law car Yes, So I'm giving them to Taylor because I do not want these what is it called when they um? What do they have

on them? When they're stolen? People say the hot they're hot. I don't want these hot headphones. I gotta get rid of them. So I learned my lesson. I'm always going to bring him to the front desk. Okay, um, let's talk about Taylor Swift? Can we? Um? Why don't we start off with um me going to her concert? This was. I would have talked about it last week on the show because it happened two Sundays ago, but um, here

we are. We had last week off, so for all the Swifties that want to know what it was like. So I flew from a girls trip that we had in Palm Springs, which was very fun. There are many stories from that which will obviously leak out throughout the episodes on this show because Noah and Anna were both there. It was so much fun, right, so fun? Yes, fun. So I flew out. We we did Thursday through Sunday there, oh god, and then Sunday I flew from uh Palm

Springs to Dallas Springs. I'm flying to Dallas. I land at four the concert. I have to be there like you know, six, and I'm staying three minute walk from the venue. It's pretty much right there. I'm staying at a Low's Live that is right next to the venue, right, so exciting. This is gonna be easy. I have a whole outfit planned if you are if you know, um,

it's like Halloween. When you go to a Taylor Swift show as a Swift, you'd like dress up like her her and sparkles like thematically, like you don't have to, but it's just fun. You just have to wear sparkles. That's pretty much it, or like some version of some of her era. So I had a whole bands up as a priest, um, so you you should be glad that girl didn't show up that And so I get I'm flying there. I wake up on the plane to us being diverted to Houston because of strong winds, and

I'm like, I'd never had a plane diverted. Of course it's to say, but I'm just like, you know what, I'm a lucky person. Things work out for me. It's fine. So we land in Houston, we get fueled up, and we take off like an hour later. And now I am landing an hour before she goes on stage, and we d get to the baggage claim, and then the baggage claim is saying that they're going to take forty five minutes for bags because of wind conditions. And I've never heard of a delay on bags because of wind,

but that was happening. So now it's putting me at fifteen minutes until she walks on stage. I still have to take a twenty minute uber to the hotel check in. I have to change still, I have to shower. I wanted to like do so many things. I wanted to pay my nails. All of these things were falling away as I was getting closer to the time, and by the way, I was going with a fan. I was going with a bestie named Brooke. Shout out, Brooke, You're amazing. She made it so simple for me. She just gave

me a ticket. She didn't even charge me for it, which was so nice. She texted me that she was in the merch line, which are notoriously long, and she was like, do you want me to get you something? And I was like, of course, and I'll bend MoU backs. So she got me a shirt. Was so nice, so so so nice, and she's like, I hope you make it, and she brought me a water from the VIP room like she like, she was so sweet and so cool.

I at this point realize, now the bags, I am definitely going to miss the opening and at least maybe a couple of songs. So I'm in the uber, in the back of it, changing furiously into my dress, trying not for the driver to see me. I'm putting on the boots, I'm doing my makeup. My hair has not been washed in two days, so I was going to do this whole thing with it pin behind my ears like she looked in the Bejeweled video because my dress is kind of an homage to what she wore in

the Bejeweled video. Not getting any of that done, I'm doing like a winged eyeliner in the back of this uber. It is smudging. I look insane. I'm just like feeling pale. I wanted to do a spray town. I'm like, I never wear dresses and expose my legs. If I don't get to spraytan, I just feel it's think about the one thing that could make you feel the most disgusting,

and that's what it is for me. I would rather be unshowered for a week than because at least I'd have some dirt on me that would look like spraytan, than to have just my pale legs. I just can't have it, you guys, I don't know why and so, but I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna be pale tonight. No one's gonna see me, no one's looking at me. It doesn't matter. So I get to the hotel and the show is about certain five minutes now,

but I'm three minutes away and I'm already dressed. I just have to go into the bathroom touch up my makeup and then run over there. I get to the hotel, I check in. We don't have your name here, and I'm like, that's weird because I'm definitely staying here. And she's like, sorry, you're not in the system. And then I go, look, here's a reservation. No, honey, you're staying at the w that's sixteen miles away. And I'm like what.

So my assistant Jen, who is fucking incredible and never misses a beat and we're all allowed to make mistakes, got the got the arena confused because Taylor Swift was at the AT and T Arena and she thought it was the American Airlines Arena, the AA Arena the Alcoholics Anonymous Arena, which are two huge arenas in Dallas, And so she got me a hotel three minutes from that arena. And so I'm across and so the sweet woman at the Lows Front Desk Lows Live Again in Dallas in Arlington,

she was like, just story your bags here. I go, I'm not staying. I'm not even staying here. She goes, it's fine, just come back after the show. So I'm like, you are amazing, Thank you so much. That is so kind. And so I'm giving I'm getting the bag tags and then I'm like, I'm just gonna do use this one bag. I'm gonna come right back. I just touch up my makeup.

So I run to the bathroom. As I'm running to the bathroom, one of the valet guys who saw me sprint in in like a rush and go where's the arena? How far is it walking? He's like, it's not three minutes walking, it's fifteen minutes walking. And I'm like, oh my god, because the other one was three minutes from the AA arenas that makes sense. So he comes in as I'm sprinting to the bathroom. He stops me and he goes, do you want to ride over there? I

got the shuttle bus and I go where the fuck am? I? Like? Did I die? Is this heaven? Because I've never had customer service in a place i'm actually a customer of. I'm not even a customer here, And I go, yes, I would love that. So I go in touch on my makeup. I run into a swifty in there that it was at the show the night before, and she was like, oh my god, it's amazing. I'm like I'm missing it right now because I have to do my eyeliner.

So I run out and you do that thing where you're already late, so you're just like you go slower for some reason? Does that? I know it's a meme. I've seen why. I just was like, you know what, you know, it's it's fine. It's just gonna be the way it is. Things work out for me. I'm a lucky person. So I get in the shuttle. The guy is so nice. I'm riding front seat in this like airport shuttle he got drops me off right outside the arena. It is dead quiet outside this room. There is not

a single person in the parking lot. I mean this is and this is two minutes after the show started. At this point, there is no everyone is inside. It's like, oh, there's like dust bunnies or what do they call those little I mean it is. I could not believe how desolate it was. It was so nuts. There was no one there, not even security. So I walk in and I easily walk in there. They're complaining about like hours

long merch lines. There's no one at the merch. If you want to get merched on Taylor Swift show, just go while she's opening the show. There's no one there, there's no one at concessions, there's nobody. I was totally alone. And then I'm running around trying to run to my seat. I get to my seat, I get there for Lover, I walk in as Lovers playing. I think it's the fourth song she does on her set list. So I've already missed three songs. Oh wow, that's not bad. Not bad.

I did want to see the opening because it's insane.

The opening. I can't even I can't even tell you how excited I am put the opening because they just they're these guys that come out with these big feather fan things, like huge, like a story two stories high, and they're like waiving these big um you know, I don't know, they're like flags, and then they put them in the center and then there, and then you hear echoes of all of her different eras coming out, and then they go, she goes, it's been a long time coming,

but and they lift it up and she's like right there, and then she starts off with Miss American and the Heartbreak Prints, with which swift as no one could have predicted she would open with that, but it makes sense. It's been a long time coming. She had to cancel Lover tour. We haven't seen her on stage twenty eighteen. This is very exciting. So I missed that, and that's fine. I also missed um, you need to calm down, Lover and the Archer. But then I go I get there

for Lover. I'm running through. I'm not even seeing Lover. I'm just seeing her on the screen and I see it for the first time on the screen because I can hear it. But then I see it and I start crying immediately because she's just so beautiful and like, I'm so exciting because she's like there, even though I'm looking at a screen. I mean, it's no different than if you were watching it live at home on TikTok or whatever. But I'm like, I'm that's the irony of

going to concerts is like it's real. It's like you're watching a screen the entire time, though you're not like looking at her unless you're upfront. Get to my seats, pretty good seats. I would prefer to look at the screen then her. I could see her, but she's tiny, tiny, and and I just can't get out of my head. I'm not kidding you. I could not. I could not enjoy it the way I thought I was going to enjoy it. I will say to you, and this is

no fault of Brooke. It is and I don't want it would pain me to think that Brook thinks I didn't have fun. I had such a good time, but I couldn't stop worrying about my life. I was worrying about a terrorist attack happening. I was picturing a plane just going like and then I was like, well, if you die here, this is like where you'd want to die, like you would die with Taylor Swift Like, Okay, sign me up. That that sounds like I'm a crazy fan that's gonna do something. But I mean like I was like,

I I hope she survived it. I would want to die. I didn't, you know. But I was just thinking of like the mayhem that would happen, of all these screaming girls trying to get out if there was like a fire or explode. I mean I was thinking horrible thoughts. God, really, yeah, because I've always been that way as a kid when I would go to big events, I would think about fires or like bombs or planes crashing. This is before September eleventh, like I never feel safe when there's thousands

of people in one place. I just feel like it's just it doesn't And I'm not wrong to not feel that great because they are the targets of terrorist attacks. I mean, if you want to get as many people as possible, you pick a you know, a place where they're all congregated together in a small space. It makes sense. So I'm in there thinking like a terrorist just like this would be perfect, and trying to enjoy it. I can't,

I swear to you. I am more present with her music when I am like driving with a dog in my lap and one air pod in, listening to like a voice memo and then her song in the background, like it was that much going on in my head, and I was then I'm disappointed in myself. Why can't I get present? Why can't I enjoy this? Niky, this

is your favorite song. It took until August, which the song August, which was honestly probably thirty songs in for me to feel like a Swiftie, to feel like my inners, like the joy come out of me, and then it went away after August. I don't know why, I don't it went away again, and then it came back for um Karma at the very end, but I like only had like three songs where I really felt like what I was going to feel like the entire time, do you know what I'm saying? And it was. It was

such a disappointment to myself. Then I go home after the show and I'm I'm honestly an acceptance of it because I'm like, you know what, this is great because now i know what the show is. I didn't get to see the whole show. There's still more for me

to see in the future. And I leave and I walk over back to the Lows and I wait there for like two hours for the traffic to clear out before I can catch an uber, and they opened the streets for Uber's and I'm sitting there and thinking about it, and I'm like, you know, this was meant to be. It was always meant to go this way. I'm like, there's just what was off for me. I go back to my hotel sixteen miles away and I'm just like

kind of bummed that I squandered this amazing experience. And then a few days later I remember where I was. It was April eighth. I am on my couch Friday night, I believe it was, and I am getting ready to watch what did I watch that night? I think I started watching the Waco documentary. Something was happening and I look at my phone. Final thought. I look at my

phone and I see alert like on Instagram. I guess it's a picture of Joe Alwyn and Taylor Swift and it says it has like a split down the middle, and I gasped. It was the same spot I was in when I found a Bob Saget die. I'm just gonna say, like, it was the same place on my couch,

like things happen in that place. And I know I'm not comparing his death to them breaking up, but am I because it honestly, I don't know why, and I know it's because of a parasocial relationship and I'm fucking crazy and swifties are dumb and don't you know that she doesn't know you and she doesn't you don't really

know her and all this stuff. I know that I know it's insane, but I felt so sad and I was texting people right away about it, and I kept saying, you know, it feels like one of my best friends split up with their fiance, like it feels like Anya and Matt split up, But I gotta say it feels worse because no offense, no offense, No, it's it's that would make me feel terrible, But it's different, it's not It isn't that. It isn't that clue, that's not the

thing that not that it feels worse. It feels much different than that. That would make me sad on so many different levels because I love Mad and it would mean he's less in my life, and it would mean that you're sad, like all these things. But there are only there are like three songs that you wrote about Matt that like I And when I sing those for whatever reason and listen to them, I don't think about Matt. I don't know, maybe it's just too close for me

to think about him. But I think about Joe when I sing these songs, and like, I don't know what it is, but I know that I'm not alone because people were freaking out and I was not the only one. And I've and this is why I think this is all connected. I have a sense that she was kind of sad that night, and I think I picked up on it, and I'm not trying to toot my own horn like I'm some kind of EmPATH or I'm so in tune with Taylor Swift. There was an and there

was nothing she did. The concert was amazing. She was in a good mood. She was being silly, she was being funny. She seemed like on all accounts, there was just something that I go, maybe that's what I was picking up on because they said couldn't get into it. They said that she changed the set. Was that on your tour? Yeah, they said that she had done it a night before. She changed the song Invisible String to

the one now. Invisible String is all about how her and Joe were always meant to be together and there was always an invisible string tying you to me, and it's all about how like it's just this beautiful song about like when you were doing this, I was here. This is how our cross paths throughout our life and

finally we meet. And then the one is about is about when you break up with someone and you like are still thinking about them, and you're like, I'm doing good, I'm onto some new shit, having adventures on my own, and then she goes, I here you met some woman on the internet and take her home and she's just imagining what he's up to. And it's like she changed that the only thing on her forty five song set list that she's changed. And so there are people speculating,

like why that happened. I think it was just maybe more of a change of like I just want to sing this song more than this song. But why would you want to sing about a guy the song that is so much about the guy you just broke up with?

Um and um and then she So this weekend was just like, first of all, a lot of Swifties freak out at first, and then we were all like, well, it's not she hasn't confirmed it, you know, this is just et It was like a rumor from ETU Entertainment tonight, which some people were saying, how did that fucking alien know about this ship? And they were like posting pictures of et being like the Roman being like, well they

haven't confirmed for sure. Yes, yes, Roman on Succession, Yes spoiler alert, Yes he also could not believe what was true. But we also there's been so many rumors about them getting married, being pregnant, breaking up, and like, so it's been they've been together six years? Would you tailor Swift dating times? And I'm not saying this because she's a serial dater. That's no judgment about her being that famous and that under scrutiny and dating someone for six years.

I'm honestly, it's like a hundred years. And I'm not exaggerating. I think it's that is an impossibility. Like your grandparents that were married for sixty years and went through wars together. Doesn't compare her to Taylor Swift with a six year relationship, it does it. It's just it's impossible. And she sacrifices so much to be the artist that people like me want her and need her to be. And I'm just really grateful that she keeps putting out music and doesn't

go away because she could. Because she actually played the song at the show that I went to. She has two songs during her set list that she plays that she gets to do acoustically and their secret songs, and so no one knows what she's gonna play, and she takes requests from her friends and and every song is different there. She's never going to repeat one of one of a song on the tour unless she fucks it up, but she did fuck up one a couple of nights ago.

She's gonna repeat that one. So you know, she's doing like forty city, so that's like eighty plus songs of new, including the forty four that she's playing in the song forty five in the set list. So but one of the songs she played was the Lucky One, and she introd it at my show, was saying, this is a song about how horrible it is to be famous, and she was kind of saying it like sarcastically, like oh where where She's like, how horrible it is to be famous?

But the song, if you hear it, it really And she wrote this on Red, which is like five albums ago, so this is very This is twenty twelve ish when she wrote the song, and it was the song is about she's she's new to town with a made up name in the land of angels, seeking fortune and fame, and everyone's lining up to like get a place in line and to become a star. And then the next verse is like you had it figured out since you

were in school. Everybody loves pretty, everybody loves cool, so overnight you look like a sixties queen and so like you just transform yourself to fit in and then you're famous, and then um, and then the precourse is like another name goes up in lights. I wonder if I'll make it out alive. And so then at the end the bridge is um uh. When I first moved to town, I heard about you. It's it's not these aren't the lyrics, but it's like, um, it's about this woman. She's like, um, oh, god,

what is the lyric. It's about a woman that came to town that she Oh, people still speak the legend of how you disappeared, how you took the money in your dignity and got the hell out you said, someone said you bought a bunch of land somewhere. Um chose the Rose Garden over Madison Square. And it took some time. But I'm getting chills, and it took some time, but I understand it now. And she goes, and now because now my name is up in lights, and but I

think you got it right. And so she's talking about this woman that like got out before as it was because fame was so crushing, and how everyone says of that woman, like, oh, she just wanted to go retire on a farm. But she like and then Taylor's saying like, no, you got it right, like this is it is a huge sacrifice to be famous, and it was, and there was a sadness to her singing in I think there

was that was a little foreshadowing. And so when I was reading about the breakup, which they got this from a source, I don't know who that source is. Of course they don't tell is this People magazine? I think it was one of them. Yeah, so, um, the source said that it was swift superstardom that was a factor in the split. Joe has struggled with Taylor's level of fame and the attention from the public, adding that they've grown apart. And I'll add this to this and everyone

is saying swifties. Let me just say, are saying that the statement from People magazine, the source that the People magazine is probably Taylor herself, coming from her publicist, Tree Pain, because Tree only deals with People magazine. So if it comes from People, it's probably Taylor Swift because People would not fracture that relationship by getting sources elsewhere. So it probably was her fame and it became so overwhelming, which it doesn't sound like she's saying he couldn't take it.

He's just a little bitch and he was jealous or something. It's like that amount of scrutiny and that amount of like, you know, your whole life is like, you're just dating Taylor Swift. You lose your identity in that. But I will say that this sounds crazy, but Taylor Swift before the pandemic had something like she had half the Twitter follower or half the Instagram followers. She has now since Folklore and evermore, which gained her this like indie cred

and people are actually like, oh, she's good. She's doubled her fan base since COVID. So they started dating six years ago. That was even pre COVID. He went through the reputation tour. He was on tour with her. But this is she's at a new level that it's just like it just out of control. And no Onah and I were talking about this recent outfit she's been caught

in because she made her first public appearance. She had this weekend off, which was great because that's when the news broke that she was, you know, not with her boyfriend anymore. And she was spotted last night at dinner with Jack Antonof at Via Kuroda. By the way, I was, and she's wearing two nights ago, you were. I was. Actually I was there on Saturday night. Looks amazing. She was wetnight Sunday, last night, Okay, Monday, she was there

with Jack Antonoff. And it's four minutes from Cornelia Street, which she has a song called Cornelia Street about Joseph that's like if we don't make it, I'll never walk Cornelia Street again. And everyone's saying, oh my god, she's not gonna walk Cornelia Street again, but she was four minutes from it. Now, this is single girl summer outfit

like Taylor Swift. Generally when she was with Joe, she would be spotted like hiking Lulu lemon leggings, baggy like flannels, sweatshirts, and this outfit just screams to me, sangle like it's off the shoulder blacktop. There is a butterfly embroidery like cut out on her leg, which could just be like she likes butterflies. I mean, I know she does. She's a girly girl, but it kind of Noah pointed out, like butterfly like awakening. And then the last time we

saw her in public. It was the iHeart Awards that I was at. Does anyone remember what she was wearing? There a hood, a greenish sparkly hood, almost like a cocoon. I'm not kidding you. This girl. I'm like, she came out of her cocoon and she is sangle now and it is I mean, as soon as I saw that outfit, I was like, I don't need her to confirm verbally, this is confirmed. Taylor Swift to single. She's wearing heels and jeans and a cute outfit with a sparkly purse.

Like she looks so single, and I'm just reflited about it. Yeah, red lips, she just looks she looks great and so but I will say, and this is the final final thought, is that on Saturday, I was really struggling with this information, and I felt really stupid for feeling so upset about it and feeling emotional. I had to like, I was like emotionally eating over it. It was just not a good night on Friday night. And I'm obviously protecting my own stuff onto this. But Saturday went over to or

I guess it was Sunday. I went over to my parents house and for Easter, and the kids were there and I was talking to my mom and I was like, you know, I bought tickets to go see Taylor on my week off. She's going to Houston, which is where my plane was diverted to in the first place, and so on my week off. I was like, I bought it a single ticket to go see her on Saturday night. And I was like, and I think I'm want to

go Sunday too, but I just don't. I don't know if I want to go two nights in a row alone. My mom was like, I'll go with you, and I was like really, and she's like, I'll go. And I was like, because they're front row tickets available and you can only buy them in twos, and I don't want to buy two and then not use the other one. But I also want to go with someone who like will matter too. And I was like, but you're not gonna like the price, mom, because my mom not like

when I spend too much money on stupid things. And I told her the price and she was like, you can't and I go, but it would be so fun front row because I think that was something about the concert that I couldn't enjoy it as much as I wanted to because I wasn't like close to the action like I needed to be close. And so on Saturday night, I'm going fourth row down there, so that's nice. But then Sunday night, I did buy the tickets for me and my mom to go front row on Sunday night

in Houston. And I will say that seat geek. If you buy tickets through them, you pay forty percent, like literally forty percent in fees, And when you're spending thousands of dollars on tickets, forty percent ends up being thousands of dollars, Like, it's so nuts. I spent the most money I've ever spent on anything in my life outside of a you know, I've never bought a car, so you know, outside of no I think it's the most money I've ever spent in my entire life on anything

on these two front row tickets. But I reasoned because my sister was like, God, you could like send your kid to college for a semester at like a good school with that, and I was like, which I don't have,

and that's what I get to do with it? I don't And what do you get out of sending your kid to college them getting a drinking problem and call that late at night and asking you to put more money in their account, like and worrying about them constantly and them having a degree that's worthless in the real world. Like what, at least I get something out of this.

So I feel really good about my purchase. I'm gonna go to that show with my mom and it's gonna be the best night of my life and hopefully make eye contact with Taylor and have her go what are you doing here? Like that's my thank you. That's so cool. I'm proud of you. That'll be exciting. And I loved you explaining to me the other day we were texting and I was asking, like, why is this breakup so

significant to people? I'll help me understand, But it's wholly made sense when you were talking about how you connect to the songs and that like it sort of fractures something in the way you experience the songs, because you always experience the songs thinking about those two people. Yeah, I think it's and it really I think a lot of celebrity relationships people do this where they go this means love is dead. If this can't work, then what

is love? And it kind of felt that way. I mean, there were a lot of swifties saying like hey, you guys like really being supportive of each other on Reddit, saying like, don't break up with your boyfriend because she broke up with hers like this doesn't and they were really saying that, like please don't do that, guys, like this isn't time to do that. And it what there is like something in me that's like, well, if that

doesn't work, what the fuck am I doing? Like it makes you just want to burn it to the ground, which she does do and her show she burns down the lover House, which is a swifty thing, but it does it makes you believe like, oh, if that can't work, this thing that I know so much about on in such a poetic way, that's the only way I know

about it? Then and what then? What is there? If this kind of love could inspire my favorite songs And I'm not talking a couple of songs, I'm talking forty songs, then what and that and all her pain before this was all leading to him? What was your favorite songs? Are songs she wrote about him? Right like because of him and about him so yeah, and all the songs leading up to him, even the songs that she wrote before she met him, were about him because it was

all leading to Joe. We all knew Joe, was it Like there were a lot of us that resisted Joe at first, but for six years we've been like, it's mom and dad. I hate when people do the mom and dad thing, but that's how it feels. And so I'm over it now because I saw that single outfit and and I'm so excited to go to a concert and be like, girl, you are single. Let's see now knowing having the context of what's really going on, which I, by the way, I don't know what's really going on.

I'm not stupid. I know that I don't know Taylor. I don't know the first thing about what's happening in Taylor's life. I she wore butterfly pants pub she just likes those jeans, and like, didn't even realize I was a butterfly on them. I read into way too much stuff, But I think contextually it's going to make the show a lot better. To know what phase in her relationship she is with This context is gonna make it very fun. And I just want to be there for my friend.

If that sounds crazy, like I just want to be like I felt. I felt a sadness from her that night, but maybe I was projecting because my flight was delayed or whatever. All right, thank you guys for letting me talk at nauseum about Taylor Swift, especially on your debut show. Brian. We have so many more questions for you. We'll get to know you tomorrow on the show as well, and we'll just continue getting to know each other because you're not going anywhere, and neither is Anya. Noah is here

to stay as well. Um. Thank you Bessie so much for listening, so we'll see you tomorrow. Also, I am on tour this weekend Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, New Newport, no Hampton, New Hampshion, Hampton, New Hampshire at the Casino, two shows in Hampton, one in Pennsylvania, and then next week we have Tucson and then Vegas with David Spade. So get on at Nicko Blades dot com for tickets. And then I'm all over Europe. All over Europe. I mean, you can't find a European city I'm not going to be

in In May it's literally all of them. Come see me in Anya on the road and don't be cut And did you just spend a fortune on tickets that you know only last one night and you only have your memories to go for it,