As the Finals shift to Dallas for Game 3, Verno and KOC discuss how the Celtics have been able to exploit the Mavericks' defensive weaknesses, as well as limit their offensive production en route to a 2-0 series lead (01:24). They also discuss the impact of Kristaps Porzingis, Kyrie Irving's struggles, Luka Doncic's need to produce some of his signature magic, as well as Jayson Tatum’s poor shooting but effective playmaking and defense. Next, the guys debate whether Dan Hurley just used the Lake...
Jun 11, 2024•1 hr 10 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC react to the Celtics' Game 1 blowout victory, as they take a 1-0 series lead in the Finals (01:54). They discuss Kristaps Porzingis's dominant return, how the Celtics defense dramatically affected the Mavs offense, shot-quality numbers, expectations for how the Mavs can respond, and more takeaways from Game 1. Next, the guys dive into the latest rumors involving the Lakers' head coaching search that now includes UConn’s Dan Hurley (38:32). Can the Lakers offer Hurley enough to make...
Jun 07, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Transcript available on Metacast Ahead of the Finals, Verno and KOC have a rendition of everyone’s favorite game: That’s True, That Might Be True, That’s Ridiculous (01:09)! They discuss various topics regarding the Finals, including Kristaps Porzingis’s health issues, the Mavs' defensive strategies, Luka’s first Finals appearance, and Jayson Tatum. They also give their predictions for the series. The guys then dive into some draft talk and discuss the vast parity that is currently in the league, as this season will have the si...
Jun 04, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC congratulate the Dallas Mavericks as they beat the Timberwolves and advance to the Finals to face the Celtics (01:07). They discuss Luka Doncic’s brilliant Game 5 performance, and give credit to Mavs GM Nico Harrison for finally building the right roster around Luka. Next, they debate what the future holds for the Timberwolves, as they are nearing the second luxury tax apron and will face several restrictions when it comes to improving the team (18:08). Do they run it back? Or will...
May 31, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss the Celtics' comeback win as they sweep the Pacers and move on to the NBA Finals (00:55). They dive into why the Celtics have been so successful with Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, as well as what the sweep means from the Pacers' perspective. Next, they discuss the potential sweep in the West, as the Mavs look to finish the Timberwolves and advance to the Finals (25:27). The guys discuss the Mavs' terrific defense on Anthony Edwards and Karl-Anthony Towns all series long, a...
May 28, 2024•59 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss the absolute stomping of the Pacers by the Celtics as Boston takes a 2-0 series lead (01:00). They debate whether the Pacers stand any chance of coming back without Tyrese Haliburton, who left Game 2 with an injury, and discuss Jaylen Brown’s performance after he was snubbed for an All-NBA team. Moving on, they discuss how the Mavs defense was able to restrain Anthony Edwards to take Game 1 (23:48). They discuss the Timberwolves’ defensive strategies and whether Chris Finch...
May 24, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Transcript available on Metacast The conference finals are finally here, as Verno and KOC break down how the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets in Denver to reach the Western Conference finals (01:23). Now that the Nuggets are eliminated, the guys go through what they should prioritize this offseason in order to remain competitive in the rapidly growing West. Next, the guys dive into the Thunder’s weakness in the middle that was exposed in their series against the Mavs, and debate whether Zach Edey can be the missing piece (25:20). ...
May 21, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss the Game 6 blowout win from the Timberwolves, as they force a Game 7 on Sunday in Denver (01:18). They then move on to tonight’s Game 6 between the Knicks and Pacers before discussing the Cavs' future after they got eliminated by the Celtics (23:14). Also, the guys debate whether the Thunder can push for a Game 7 against the Mavs and KOC shares his experience watching Dead & Company at the Sphere (42:42). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gm...
May 17, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Transcript available on Metacast Chris and Kevin immediately react to the Thunder’s comeback win against the Mavericks to tie the series at 2-2 (1:17). They discuss Luka Doncic’s current status, and who will win the series (5:24). Then, they discuss the Celtics' win over the Cavaliers to take a commanding 3-1 lead (22:52). Later, they compare the Knicks and Pacers’ benches and the difference it can make in their series (27:58). And then, they debate whether Anthony Edwards could have scored even more points to lift the Timberwo...
May 14, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss PJ Washington’s performance in the Mavs' Game 2 win over the Thunder to tie the series (01:13). They also discuss Kyrie Irving’s impact, the Mavs defense, as well as Josh Giddey becoming close to unplayable. They then move on to the Cavs, who tied their series with the Celtics after the getting the best version of Evan Mobley, and also discuss why the Jayson Tatum-Jaylen Brown era Celtics have been extremely inconsistent in the playoffs (20:34). Next, the guys discuss their...
May 10, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC go through the Timberwolves blowing out the Nuggets to take a 2-0 series lead (01:03). They discuss the Wolves stingy defense on Jamal Murray, Chris Finch’s shortened bench, and debate whether the Nuggets stand any chance to come back. The Knicks were lucky to escape with a Game 1 victory against the Pacers, and the guys debate whether the remainder of the series will be just as competitive, and if Tom Thibodeau can sustain playing his starters extended minutes (31:34). Also, they ...
May 07, 2024•1 hr 12 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC go through Thursday night’s set of elimination games, starting with the Knicks surviving the 76ers and advancing to the next round (01:07). They debate who’ll get the blame in Philadelphia (other than Tobais Harris), how Jalen Brunson remains vastly underrated despite putting up Steph Curry-like numbers, and why Tyrese Maxey’s emergence is enough to keep Joel Embiid around for at least one more season. They then move on to the Pacers eliminating the Bucks, preview Game 6 between th...
May 03, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC recap Monday night's slate of playoff basketball, starting with another Jamal Murray game-winning shot for the Nuggets, who eliminate the Lakers (01:06). They discuss Murray’s rise as a playoff performer and debate what the future holds for the Lakers, as well as for LeBron James. While the Lakers avoided a sweep, the Suns weren’t so lucky, as the guys discuss Anthony Edwards’s rise to superstar status while determining what’s next for the Suns (15:50). Also, they discuss the Thund...
Apr 30, 2024•2 hr 38 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC recap Thursday night’s slate of playoff basketball, starting with the Nuggets' 11th straight win over the Lakers (01:13). With the Lakers in an 0-3 hole again, the guys discuss what the future holds for LeBron James and the team. They next discuss how the Magic and 76ers were able to win their Game 3 matchups against the Cavs and Knicks (24:10). The guys move on to preview Friday’s night games, starting with Bucks-Pacers, before moving on to Mavs-Clippers (46:28). After going down ...
Apr 26, 2024•2 hr 55 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC go through all the playoff matchups from Monday night, starting off with Jamal Murray’s game-winning shot to put the Nuggets up 2-0 over the Lakers (01:26). Next, they discuss how the Knicks were able to grind out a victory over Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey, and the Sixers (14:06). Also, the guys discuss what makes the Cavs a little different this year, and debate how far the Timberwolves can go with this version of Anthony Edwards (30:06). They then discuss why Khris Middleton is piv...
Apr 23, 2024•1 hr 20 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC share what they enjoyed the most from KOC’s interview with Victor Wembanyama before turning their attention to the play-in games from earlier this week (01:29). They discuss their disappointment with Zion Williamson's injury and Brandon Ingram’s performance in the Pelicans' loss to the Lakers, as well as their surprise at the Kings easily defeating the Warriors (10:16). Do the Lakers stand any chance to upset the Nuggets? How far can the inexperienced Thunder go? The guys debate wh...
Apr 19, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC open the episode by briefly teasing KOC’s interview with Victor Wembanyama (01:52). They then turn their attention to the playoff matchups, as well as this week’s play-in tournament (13:20). Should the Lakers lose on purpose to avoid the Nuggets in the first round? Do the Timberwolves stand any chance against the Suns? They debate this and look at the other playoff series in the West. Also, while looking at the East, the guys discuss which teams are in the best positions to make a ...
Apr 16, 2024•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC open up the episode by discussing Stephon Castle’s rise to no. 1 on KOC’s draft board (01:36). Next, they dive into everyone’s favorite segment: "That’s True, That Might Be True, That’s Ridiculous" (10:25). They discuss Jrue Holiday’s extension with the Celtics, debate whether this will be the last year we see Trae Young in a Hawks uniform, Luka Doncic’s MVP chances, how much pressure is on the Suns, and so much more. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailb...
Apr 12, 2024•56 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss last night’s national championship game, which saw UConn continue its dominance against Purdue as it secured back-to-back titles (01:07). They share their thoughts on watching basketball games at football stadiums, KOC's updated draft stock for Donovan Clingan and Zach Edey, the most obvious team for Clingan, and Tristen Newton’s NBA potential. With the season nearing its end, the guys discuss which playoff matchups they want to see the most in both conferences (30:51). Got...
Apr 09, 2024•57 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss the 76ers' impressive win over the Heat (01:30). How deep of a run can the Sixers make with the returns of Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxey? They then turn their attention to the Bucks and debate whether they can still make a Finals run despite their struggles (14:46). Also, the guys discuss how far the Knicks can go now that Julius Randle is confirmed out for the season (24:01). Next, they discuss the Warriors' huge win over the Rockets, as well as their excitement for this we...
Apr 05, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC recap last night's slate of games, beginning with the Suns as Devin Booker goes off against the Pelicans (01:47). Luka Doncic has the Mavs riding high as the guys debate whether they are the scariest team headed into the playoffs (05:46). As the Celtics continue to dominate the regular season, the guys debate who is going to be the key bench player for their playoff success (15:40). Josh Hart doesn't sound too optimistic about the Knicks’ health issues (24:03). Also, how close is J...
Apr 02, 2024•1 hr 1 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC go through last night’s slate of Sweet 16 games and discuss which players' draft stock rose (01:33). After the Pelicans beat the Bucks, the guys debate just how high their ceiling is with Zion playing at this level (14:00). Next, they discuss the Hawks' OT win over the Celtics and debate what is going to happen with Dejounte Murray and Trae Young, as well as Tom Haberstroh’s latest report suggesting that Jaylen Brown is a better clutch performer than Jayson Tatum (22:38). They also...
Mar 29, 2024•57 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss the NBA’s investigation into Jontay Porter after multiple instances of "betting irregularities" were discovered and debate the type of punishment the NBA should hand down (01:20). After this weekend’s March Madness games, they discuss the draft stock of Kentucky’s Reed Sheppard, UConn’s Donovan Clingan, Marquette’s Tyler Kolek, and more (19:32). While there are no franchise cornerstones in this draft class, the guys explain why the prospects in this class can still make a b...
Mar 26, 2024•1 hr 8 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss how the NCAA tournament can greatly impact the draft stocks for prospects and highlight a few of the prospects participating, including Purdue’s Zach Edey, Colorado’s Cody Williams, North Carolina’s Elliot Cadeau, and more (01:34). Next, the guys each select four players they are keeping a close eye on with just a few weeks left in the regular season (23:34). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an email at nbamailbag@gmail.com! Or you can send the guys a tweet @Chri...
Mar 22, 2024•1 hr 17 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss how the Thunder’s organic team chemistry has led to their success this year (03:04). The guys react to Kyrie Irving’s game-winner over the weekend before taking a hard look at the Suns after losing to the Giannis-less Bucks (19:59). Also, was Alperen Sengun holding back Jalen Green (33:56)? Finally, the guys discuss how important OG Anunoby is to the Knicks and share their excitement for the NCAA tournament to begin (45:06). Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an em...
Mar 19, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss Al Horford and Jaylen Brown’s performance in last night’s Celtics win over the Suns (01:48). Is Brown quietly becoming the new leader in Boston? Next, the guys dive into Tom Haberstroh and Ethan Strauss’s recent reporting about how officiating has changed and the lack of fouls being called in games (23:05). The guys speculate about whether this is something Adam Silver has quietly done to improve the game for potential future broadcast partners and whether this could lead t...
Mar 15, 2024•1 hr 8 min•Transcript available on Metacast With just over a month left in the regular season, Verno and KOC discuss their levels of belief in all of the potential playoff teams in each conference. They start off in the East (02:45) before turning their attention to the West (37:51). Also, with KOC’s NBA Draft Guide launching and the March Madness tournament starting up, the guys dive into some draft talk and discuss a few prospects they like (01:09:10). You can find KOC’s Draft Guide here. Got a question for Verno and KOC? Send them an e...
Mar 12, 2024•1 hr 28 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC start with the highly anticipated matchup between the Nuggets and Celtics, which saw the Nuggets sweep the season series. They discussed what this matchup could look like in the Finals, how to guard Denver, and more. Then, they discuss some of the other close games from Thursday night, including Luka getting another 35-point triple-double (18:30), Anthony Edwards exploding for 44 points and a game-saving block (21:27), and the Bulls upsetting the Warriors (40:29). Then, they quickl...
Mar 08, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC discuss the Bucks’ impressive win over the Clippers, despite being without Giannis (01:42). Dame showed us he still has some of his Portland magic as the Clippers continue to slide. The Celtics are riding high after completely blowing out the Warriors over the weekend, extending their win streak to 11. The guys then preview the Celtics’ highly anticipated Thursday night matchup against the Nuggets (20:39). After losing to the Lakers, the guys debate whether the Thunder can match th...
Mar 05, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Transcript available on Metacast Verno and KOC break down what could be the next great NBA rivalry between the Spurs and Thunder with Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama (01:50). They dive into how special these rookies are and why the future's so bright for both. With Andrew Wiggins away from the Warriors, Moses Moody slides into the starting lineup—the guys explain why this move could be beneficial for the team down the stretch (14:28). With the no. 5 and no. 10 seeds separated by only 3.5 games in the West, the guys debate w...
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