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03-27-25 FULL SHOW - Is SB-003 Even Constitutional? And There's a Wine Walk

Mar 28, 20252 hr 47 min
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Speaker 1

The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock Accident and Injury Lawyers.

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No, it's Mandy Connell and Dona KA FM.

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God wanna say the nicety prey Andy Connell, Keith sad thing.

Speaker 4

Welcome to Welcome to the Thursday edition of the show.

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The show being the Mandy Connell Show. I being the Mandy Connall. I am joined, of course by Anthony Rodriguez, who looks stapper and a plaid show today. Very springy, look springy today.

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I gotta I gotta look nice for our final heroes.

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Thank you presentation.

Speaker 5

Yay, all right, we've got one of those on the blog today. Okay, someone just sent this text message to five six six nine. Oh Mandy, please forgive me my real job is interfering with my listening to the best show on the radio. Yes, the Manford O'Donnell's Show. Yes, that's it, Manford O'Donnell. It's Randy Cromwell to you, sir. Yes, come on, anyway, let's go to the blog because I got a bunch of good stuff on the blog today.

Speaker 4

We got a couple of.

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Guests and it's our last show of the week that is not interrupted by baseball. Ayrn, I just looked at the schedule for next week three times next week?

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Yeah, three times. Yeah.

Speaker 5

And I have a whole discussion on the blog today about whether or not baseball sucks. Spoiler alert, I say no, I love baseball.

Speaker 4

I'm excited about baseball season. I've decided I'm just gonna.

Speaker 5

Put my irritation for prior performance aside, and I'm all.

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In on this Rocky team.

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Bold question, I expect nothing other than a bold answer.

Speaker 4

Who wins the World Series this year?

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You know what?

Speaker 4

The Colorado Rockies.

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That sounded stupid coming out of my mouth, as I was like, I don't believe me right now, and I don't believe that. I look, I realized the bar is super low.

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I'm like, hey, could we just lose? Under one hundred games is the standard? But they heard you heard it here first. They will there's some less that. Okay, that's my I'm I'm just gonna that's my That's that's the bar right now. They will lose less than a rod stop it.

Speaker 5

Stop it right now. Well, let me just say this. This young kid, Chase Dolander, he's a pitcher. He has some stuff. He has some he He's going to be a fun young pitcher to watch if he can avoid the yips, you know that young pitchers sometimes get. But and he apparently has not made it up yet. I haven't seen him called up here.

Speaker 6

And we're already excited for Doyle, We're already excited for Tovar. But here in a couple of weeks months, maybe Zach vinheime get ready for that call up.

Speaker 4

He's the next guy.

Speaker 5

Yep, So there is there are some things to be.

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Happy about and excited about.

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And I don't think baseball sucks and we'll talk about more on that on the show again. Mandy, do you think you'll ever have a real show again, like a real show on what stuff and things hang on to your horses?

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Buddy?

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Listen to this today on the blog, which you can find by going to mandy'sblog dot com. Then look for the latest post section and you may have to scroll over to the right to see the headline that says three twenty seven to twenty five blog is SB three even constitutional? And there's a wine walk Click on that and here are the headlines you will find within Hi Tech Toe a winner.

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I think you listen to listen in office half of American all with ships and clipmas of say that's.

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Going to press flat.

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Today?

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On the show, did the Dems just pass another unconstitutional gun bill?

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There's a wine walk coming up. More shots, Wait a minute, more COVID shots, more COVID Dems.

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Accused head seth and being drunk. CIA director John Ratt Brogline. Former Mayor Webb says, see who's chancellors are to white? Suicide attempts down by twenty nine percent in teens, and a school program as being credited. Another predator uses roadblocks.

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To you to lure a kid.

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Why didn't Jared Polus pardon this soldier? A twenty five million dollar Corps request shows the arrogance of government.

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Colorado's ban on.

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Conversion therapy heads to the Supreme Court. Another teacher steals a kid from parents to honors on the lamb in Wisconsin, No baseball doesn't suck. Next Friday will be at twentyeth in Blake for opening day. States are banning synthetic dies in food. Signal is not approved on city devices. It's time to privatize. The Post Office will be spending four billion to run more buses. Make a difference. Andrew Kate is a complete scumbag. The climate emergency is on its way to being over my heroes.

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Thank you rolls On. A dude had an epic back tattoo.

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What is the man? What the Mandy show ban does in their spare time? Dwarf not happy with the new White.

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I'm calling hr Rhino named.

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One of the coolest neighborhoods, snow White being called out.

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For taking the film old people. Anyway, those are the headlines. There's some more stuff.

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Just stop.

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I know it wasn't my best work.

Speaker 5

I ran out of breath like halfway through, and then there was way more than I thought there was. It's a very long blog today, if I do say so myself, and I do because I did it. This texter said, Manby, have you heard about the home rule designation that Douglas County just set up there? Working towards it? And I am educating myself. I am not familiar with the whole home rule style of government, so I'm in the process of educating myself about that, and we will be probably

having some guests on it. I'm not sure what it means yet, and I didn't want to spout off before I had a more a fuller view of what everything means. Anyway, I got a lot of stuff on the blog today, and we're going to start right up there at the top, which is so far away right now, with this story. Come on, Mandy, I didn't link to the rest of the story one moment.

Speaker 4

Please as I find.

Speaker 5

This because it's very important and I want to make sure that we are getting it. It's off Alex Berenson's substack, and let me just go to the blog and I'll find it a minute. There's new research out of Spain and they studied a group of healthcare workers and.

Speaker 4

They started studying them.

Speaker 5

Before the COVID vaccine came out, so they had a pretty good longitudinal study of these healthcare workers during COVID and they were able to study the effect of multiple COVID vaccinations. Now you would think that, like when you get a booster for another kind of vaccine, it would decrease your chances of getting that illness at all or

with any severity. Well, we know the COVID vaccines don't actually keep you from getting COVID, But now it appears that the people with more COVID vaccines create antibodies of a very specific kind. Now, there are four kinds of antibodies identified in this story. I don't know if there's other antibodies, but there are four IgG one through IgG four, and IgG.

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Four is very rare.

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It's not necessarily created by a regular vaccine, but it is for some reason created by the mRNA vaccines, which the COVID vaccines are.

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And this study found that people with higher.

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Levels of those IgG four antibodies were eighty percent more likely than those with lower levels to become infected with COVID over a six month period. The association had a lower bound of one point two. That is a very fancy way of saying it almost certainly was not due to chance, and the researchers wrote, these findings suggest a potential association between IgG four induction by mr NA vaccination

and a higher risk of breakthrough infection. And then, in what is surely one of the greatest understatements in the history of understatements, the researchers wrote that the results may necessitate reevaluation of vaccine formulations or booster schedules.

Speaker 4

What I mean, what I remain and I rooted on the blog.

Speaker 5

I remained so sorry that I backed I have backed these vaccine schemes. I believed companies that are not worthy of believing and really, really really, oh wait a Rod, there's a message on the text line for you. Even though says it's for me, it says Mandy, I listened to your show Tuesday Thursday.

Speaker 4

I must have missed something. Where's the tick tack toe? So now you've said an expectation. I literally today, I didn't hear it. I literally did when? Yeah? When today?

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Today?

Speaker 4

What time? What happened right before? What happened right before it?

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I don't know, but the blog happened right after we I don't think I don't think we did.

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I'm just saying, there we go. There, you go, check the record. We'll see I don't know this is I will find this study very very quickly on the break and I will add it back to the blog.

Speaker 5

But Alex was one of those people who was down in the alarm and everybody kept saying, you're a crank, You're an idiot, and.

Speaker 4

The problem with being a complete contrarian. We're going to go back in time now, Okay, go ahead, Okay, Well here we go.

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Okay, quick on, and here are the headlines you will find within I don't know what this texter was talking about. I have no clue. They're obviously crazy, probably drunk.

Speaker 4

I don't do it every day.

Speaker 6

It makes you want it more, Mandy.

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I personally know several people who got sick with COVID within three weeks of getting a booster. And I'm just saying this like, I'm gonna send this to my mom today and say, please don't get any more shots. My mom is in great health, even though she's eighty two. She has no comorbidities. But this is this is scandalous, you guys.

Speaker 4

If this is anything else other than this vaccine, there would be lawyers right now gearing up their ads for this radio station. Have you been harmed by a COVID vaccine? Call so and so, and they're gonna you know, I mean, it would already have started because not only was this a COVID vaccine, they were given immunity.

Speaker 5

I mean, so now there's no recourse. This is like the greatest scam of the twenty first century.

Speaker 4

We're not even in it that much. It's uh we all were basically the Tuskegee airmen, right, I mean, who were experimented on uh not the Tueski airman. What am I talking about?

Speaker 5

No, there's a medical experience with syphilis, and I just completely conflated that with the Tuskegee airmen. My apologies, they are two completely different things. But we all just got experimented on it. And I'm one of the guinea pigs.

Speaker 4

But remember when Joe Biden kept getting covid like one It felt like one after the other after the other after the other, and and everybody was like, has it even vaccinated like a hundred times? Yeah, kind of Mandy.

Speaker 5

Are people seriously still getting the COVID shot? Yes, old people are still getting it. My mother's doctor was like, dude, do you want your flu shot your COVID shot on the same day, which put her down for like forty eight hours.

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She couldn't get out of bed. I mean, I just don't understand people. I don't get it.

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Uh.

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Oh, the texter is now fighting back. That's obviously an.

Speaker 4

Old clip from another day, not today's blog. Stop it. I'll go back and play it again. Stop it back further. I'll do it.

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You know what. No, we're gonna skip ahead to where you start reading the blog right after this.

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Okay, here's this first tech te YEP.

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Today on the show, did the Dems just pass another unconstitutional gunmill?

Speaker 4

Here at the top of the blog right there. Interesting? Yeah, I don't know. This listener is out of control. Interesting, crazy and I receipts. Yeah.

Speaker 5

The worst part about this is not only was this COVID vaccine so we have no recourse, it was also forced onto people against their will.

Speaker 4

Right when people were faced with the prospect of you have to have this shot to keep this job.

Speaker 5

People that would not have otherwise gotten this vaccine got the vaccine. And this is just this is so incredibly terrible. Oh, now you have tic tac toe defenders the text line. So it's all coming full circle.

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So what we're saying is is that is tick test to a winner.

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Absolutely for me, that is a winner.

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I know who's texting in. Yeah, Joe's mad. Ain't got nothing else.

Speaker 4

He thinks he's changing the channel on the TV and he's just sending text messages. I thought I was texting Jeffrey Goldberg.

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Of Aliens Agriculture, Like I said, you got nothing else to do?

Speaker 4

Cool? Welcome Joe, Mandy. Why don't you get Trump any blame for this?

Speaker 5

I blame everyone who was pardon parcel of this nonsense. I blame Trump for not recognizing that doctor Fauci was mad with power from the get go. I blame everybody who was involved with covering up any kind of contrarian sidecience to keep it away from the public people like me. I blame everyone who lashed out at people who made predictions that have turned out to be entirely true, who.

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We should have listened to.

Speaker 5

I blame the people that kept the schools closed forever.

Speaker 4

I blame all of them.

Speaker 5

If you guys can't tell how completely cynical I am about government at this point, I don't believe anything they tell me about anything anymore. And at this point I just look at whatever pronouncement comes out of the government, even under the Trump administration, and I just weigh it for how is this going.

Speaker 4

To affect my life long term? What's the worst that can happen?

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Do I need to get a pitchfork and head to the Capitol with a torch? Or can I just like, Okay, it'll be fine after a while. A vast majority of it is it'll be fine after a while, totally fine.

Speaker 4

Anyway? There are you.

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What a.

Speaker 4

Rod and the moon landing two things that were faked that he thinks you're not faking. Stop. I'm going to stop reading it, but they keep making me laugh.

Speaker 5

I'd been just worth the if you better laugh or you're gonna cry kind of stage of life.

Speaker 4

Right now. There are so many things happening that I'm so concerned about.

Speaker 5

I was talking to my nephew today and I just asked his opinion. There are protests in the Goaza strip right now. People are protesting Hamas, and I'm so skeptical. I don't believe anything. I don't believe anyone. So I reached out to my nephew in Israel and I said, do you think these protests could be real? And he said, yeah, they hate Hamas, but they don't have any way to

fight them, you know they don't. He said, It's more like North Korea over there than Syria, and that, I've is an odd analogy only someone from the Middle East would.

Speaker 4

Actually think of. But I'm so cynical.

Speaker 5

I want to believe that people want to live in peace and harmony and all that.

Speaker 4

Good stuff, but man, we don't act like it, do we We do not.

Speaker 5

Anyway, maybe why don't you broadcast your show on K how or something while being replaced by Rockies Baseball. Well, the talented people who work on k K how would probably be upset by that. I know I would if I was. I know, k Rod, I got it all computer. Now you're like a Kop singer, K pop singer, k Rod the k pop that's it.

Speaker 4

That's it. Yep. But I don't want to be this cynical. I don't want to be this jaded.

Speaker 5

But I am because this has been my job now for the last twenty years, and I'm coming up. I've been trying to figure out the first day that I did my own show, that I got my first show because the guy that I was producing for in a morning show in Fort Myers quit and I said, I can do this job until we find somebody else. So the next day I get on the air and I open up the microphone and say, it's Mandy called off for daybreak until a more suitable replacement can be found.

Speaker 4

And I said that for a long time, it's coming up.

Speaker 5

But I've been following politics now for twenty years, consuming it at such a high level that I now, especially after COVID.

Speaker 4

Two big backbreakers for me were.

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The weapons of mass destruction in a Rock and the entire Rock War, and now this COVID response. Not that I had a ton of obviously, you guys will listening to the show. I was doubting, you know, every day, But I still had faith. I still, somehow there was a little part of me that had faith that the government was going to do its best to do the right thing, only to find out later that everything they did was about covering their own behinds, and it was just It's just it took the last out of me.

So I don't hate the government. I'm not an anarchist. I don't think we could possibly run this country without some form of government.

Speaker 4

But if you've ever wondered.

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Why I am excite to think of things like the destruction of the Department of Education and raining in agencies like USAID that have just been blowing through money, it's because of that they've lost my trust.

Speaker 4

Just saying Mandy used to move the app when baseball came on. What happened to that?

Speaker 5

We are now a streaming partner with the Rockies. So there you go, there you go when we get back. I have so many good stories today that I want to share with you at one o'clock, we are going to talk with Dave Copple or Copel from the Independence Institute. He's their Second Amendment expert, and I'm excited to talk to him about that. But when we get back, I want to tell you a story about a school program that is being credited for a twenty nine percent decrease

in suicide attempts. But it's going to sound oddly familiar to a lot of people. This is from the official the Democrats Twitter page. Okay, so it's just says the Democrats, and it is a giant picture of Senator Tammy Duckworth, and it's a quotation. She's smiling in the picture, and under her smiling face and big white letters, bold letters, it says Pete Heggseth is an efing liar, but it doesn't say efing. So under Senator Tammy Duckworth's picture it

says Pete Hegsworth is a blanking liar. Okay, and then it says Senator Tammy Duckworth right under that. And this is sent out by the Democrats.

Speaker 4

Now, I am very.

Speaker 5

I don't want to say conflicted, because.

Speaker 4

I'm really not conflicted. I am a time and place cursor. Let me explain.

Speaker 5

When I am among friends or people I perceive to be friends, oh, I can curse with the best of them. But if I am in a work environment, if I'm on the radio for three hours a if I am in a professional setting, I'm not going to.

Speaker 4

Walk around dropping curse words.

Speaker 5

I mean, there's a time and place for everything, right, There's a level of decorum that you should maintain. And this is something I try to impart to my daughter. If you think your teenager is not cursing, well you.

Speaker 4

May have the only one.

Speaker 5

But man, they got some potty mouths on these kids. I'm trying to teach my daughter to be aware of who's around her, to be respectful. But I have a genuine question, now, in what way does this move the needle for you? Now, I realize my audience mostly Lane's right.

Speaker 4

I get it.

Speaker 5

We're all kind of on the same page. Although I do have a lot of left wingers who listen. Some hate listen, and then some just listen to see.

Speaker 4

What's going on. And I appreciate you all, every one of you.

Speaker 6

But this is now.

Speaker 5

I mean, this is a senator, a United States senator, and she's talking like she moonlights in a truck stop, and it doesn't matter that it's male or female.

Speaker 4

I don't put any difference on that.

Speaker 5

If you're in a professional setting as a male and you start dropping F bombs, it's not a good look.

Speaker 4

Trust me, someone is judging harshly. But is this where we are now?

Speaker 1

Is?

Speaker 5

And I just say that, like, how does this move the needle? Because the Democrats are having a real problem right now. They can't find their footing. This is why the heckset thing is going to be the thing that they are going to hang on to, I swear until the midterms because they really have nothing that right. They put themselves in the position of arguing against some things that Trump is doing that are wildly popular according to polling data.

Speaker 4

So they're in this really. So their decision is, I know, we'll just get down with it.

Speaker 5

We'll show them how like them they are by dropping an F bomb in an interview with a major publication, and then we'll have our social media tweet it out to show how edgy we really are.

Speaker 4

I mean, what are we doing. I don't like it when anybody does it. I don't like it when President Trump does it casually it's beneath the office of the President of the United States, and he's never dropped an F bom that I know of. Maybe he has. I'm not saying it hasn't happened.

Speaker 5

I'm sure he has in his real life, right, I'm sure every president has dropped an F bomb in his real life.

Speaker 4

But I don't like this. I don't. I don't like it. It would be like, all of.

Speaker 5

A sudden, they were like, you know what, everybody, we should all start coming to work dressed like John Fetterman. It's bad enough that he goes to work in Jim Schwartz and a hoodie. I actually am turning into kay. I don't want to say I'm a John Fetterman fan, But the more he talks, the more I'm like, yes, sir, I'd like to hear more of what you have to say.

Speaker 4

I might not agree with it, but I want to hear more.

Speaker 5

But what are we just gonna go to like gym class casual on the floor of the US Senate while we're I mean, I just don't.

Speaker 4

I don't know what to think of this.

Speaker 5

Am I being approved here because I am I being a hypocrite. I don't think I'm being hypocritical because I'm not telling Senator Tammy Duckworth never to curse.

Speaker 4

That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying, don't curse.

Speaker 5

When you're representing yourself as Senator Tammy Duckworth in a magazine article.

Speaker 4

You know that they're gonna pull quote that. I mean, I don't know. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

Speaker 5

I'd love to get a text message five sixty sixty nine to oh, I don't believe I've heard President Trump curse, have you? Yes, but not one of your like horrible curse words, just like a lighter curse word. I believe he used the.

Speaker 4

BS one time.

Speaker 5

So yeah, Mandy, how much is a duckworth? It depends on how much you're willing to pay for it.

Speaker 4

I guess I don't believe, Mandy.

Speaker 5

Why is it mandatory to use the F word to identify with Hollywood? No, I think they're trying to They're trying to show the you know, the the blue collar workers, just because this is.

Speaker 4

What they think you are, this is what they think the normies are, well, you know, normal people. They curse all the time as to their blue collar jobs in their ring around the collared collars.

Speaker 5

I mean, you know, isn't that how they live? Hello, fellow kids, that's what this feels like.

Speaker 4

We're gonna show them we're just like they are. Well, I don't curse at my job, and I don't want you to curse at yours.

Speaker 2

Mandy.

Speaker 5

It's hard for me to picture Jimmy Carter saying, f you know what, you might be right, You might be right.

Speaker 4

That is that is tough. I will I will concede that Jimmy Carter may be the only one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just obviously.

Speaker 5

I might be the only one because not that many people are texting five six six, I know, to either agree with me or disagree. I don't like the coursening of society in that way. You know, people used to have respect when you would be in mixed company, as they say, if you were around older folks that might be offended by such things, you.

Speaker 4

I'd never dream of cursing.

Speaker 5

And now you go to the mall or whatever, you're standing in line at Starbucks and these little rap scallions are are absolutely like dropping.

Speaker 4

F bombs left and right, and I give them a look. I ton't And sometimes I'll tell them to stop, like, you know, you need to pretend your mom can hear you. I'm just afraid they'll tell me to f off. Mandy.

Speaker 2

I think maybe a.

Speaker 5

Smart Republican put that up secretly to show how.

Speaker 4

Bad they really look. I mean, maybe maybe this Texter said, who cares?

Speaker 5

If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have known about it, and it has no bearing on my life. Congress and decorum do not belong in the same sentence. I think the thing that I find shocking is a Twitter account called the Democrats sent it out like it's something to promote. That's what I think was shocking to me. Yes, Congress, people should be dressed properly. I'm a GM at a company and basketball.

Speaker 4

Shorts are my go to eh.

Speaker 5

You know, I mean, I expect that kind of language from Bobert, but I don't recall Lauren Bobert dropping an F bomb and it being the headline. Maybe I missed it, Mandy. What are your thoughts on Daniel Drinsky saying abortion will save the state money? I had not heard that, but perhaps I can ask her about that in the near future. As a family of veterans, we drop bombs all the time, and yes, there's a place in time for this language.

She is not being professional, but it's more than Tammy Duckworth.

Speaker 2

This is now.

Speaker 4

They're dropping cursewords in committee meetings. They're dropping curse words. I mean it, and it's very weird. It's very weird.

Speaker 5

My grandparents have never heard me say one curse word, and I'm fifty three years old. My nephew cusses in front of his grandmother NonStop, and it drives me insane.

Speaker 4

Why don't you tell him to stop?

Speaker 5

I guess I grew up in the kind of family where if you were doing something stupid, it didn't matter whose kid you were, they would cut their eyes at you and say, what are you doing?

Speaker 4

Show a little respect.

Speaker 5

If nobody else is gonna step in, you have an obligation. Otherwise that person's gonna be a real turd as they get older. Mandy, do you think we'll ever see a Republican in Congress carrying a pipcane? Okay, to be clear, I have had my eyes opened about the cane situation.

Speaker 4

I have a guy on Facebook. His name's Tony. Tony apparently exists solely to comment on every day, every day on Facebook Tony comments on my blog post. I don't think Tony.

Speaker 5

Listens to the show, but he's a lefty and he comments every day and somebody inevitably engages with him and they get in a fight. It's so it's like it's like will the sun rise in the east, and will Tony comment on Mandy's face? And if you go there to fight with him, he'll fight with you. He's a smart guy, he really is. You just completely misguided. But he helped me understand that in for older black gentlemen, a cane is like an accessory.

Speaker 4

So it's kind of like, you know, it's it's a style.

Speaker 5

A sort of a completely outfit accessory like I had and a cay that kind of thing. And I was like, oh, because I've never seen him actually use it to walk, so for him, and he is a quite the natty dresser, right, He's a very snappy dresser, that congressman. So it makes sense. So we can all move on from that anyway, We're gonna take a very quick time out. Got a lot of stuff on the text line now, Mandy, I completely agree. Maybe it's an age thing because I'm your age, but

I think it's extremely crass. I also teach my fifteen year old daughter when whoops way the fifteen year old daughter when is appropriate or inappropriate, and to check her surroundings.

Speaker 4

My father was very adamant about us never using the F bomb.

Speaker 6

Guys.

Speaker 5

I didn't curse around my mom until I was like forty five, and I'm not even kidding, and even then I think it was an accident.

Speaker 4

This from Denver seven.

Speaker 5

A new study in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine shows suicide attempts in Colorado high schools are down twenty nine percent thanks to a school based peer led program. The program, Sources of Strength, is for reducing suicide attempts. They're giving it credit now and the Lakewood based program comes into schools to train student leaders and staff members, those people that engage with students and promote good mental health.

This could mean anything from launching an awareness campaign about loneliness to getting the word out that there are people in school you can talk to when you have problems. The overall effect is to normalize good mental health practices. Now I read that today, and don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled that this organization exists.

Speaker 4

I'm glad because if.

Speaker 5

It's helping move the needle in the right direction, I am all for it one hundred percent. But doesn't that sound like just being a teenager when we were young. I mean, I'm fifty five, I grew up.

Speaker 4

I'm gen x. I am so gen x. It's incredibly painful sometimes, but we grew up in a completely different, unsupervised world. And for kids today, they.

Speaker 5

Don't have the same support systems that we had when we were growing up. I think a vast majority of us and if you were one of those kids who, even back in the eighties, struggled in school and you were lonely and unhappy, and I'm glad you got through it, It's not the same for everyone. But I'm just talking kind of sweeping generalizations. And I'm not just talking about

cool kids. I'm talking about the choir kids and the football players and the band kids, and everybody sort of found their place, but they found their troop, right, They found their people, and the people didn't stop after school got out. We spent time together, We hung out at each other's houses, we were constantly visiting and doing all of this stuff.

Speaker 4

We were always around our peers.

Speaker 5

So when things were bad, we had a support group that was there, and a lot of times I gave awful advice. Right, let's be real, Getting a boyfriend advice from an eleventh grader who's never had a boyfriend is just not a good move. But all that being said, it did create a safety net that was there when we needed it, and it seems great again. I'm thrilled that Sources of Strength is working and I want to again support that. But isn't it kind of sad we have to bring in an outside company to do that

very same thing. There are things in life, you know, life, Each generation is going to have an entirely different experience in the United States of America and anywhere else really, I mean, except.

Speaker 4

For the horrible craphole countries.

Speaker 5

Like yeah, men who never get any better and just remain a pit of corruption and discussing this, those people never have anything to compare it to. But there are things about this generation that I find fascinating and really really cool and really exciting. But then there's so much that I just go, man, you guys got jypped, you really did. You guys got ripped off because we had the ability to just be friends. We didn't have to

be online with them all the time. Bullying usually stopped at the school door, maybe on the walk home, but you didn't have to deal with it after that. There wasn't a thing in your hand that constantly pointed out all the people that.

Speaker 4

Were better than you. You know that with social media's it's like, hey, look at all these people that are better than you. It's just super stressful.

Speaker 5

And I just thought that was It struck me as noteworthy because, you know, growing up in the eighties, we had the threat of nuclear destruction over us at all time, and maybe that was more pronounced in Florida because we were so close to Cuba.

Speaker 4

And you know, the Cuban Missilechrist and blah blah blah.

Speaker 5

We had things like AIDS pop up and we had no idea and everybody thought you could get aged just by being in the same room with someone who had AIDS, and it was terrible and scary and awful. And then it wasn't all sunshine and roses, but we also had going and playing outside and not having to check them with our parents and our parents not knowing where we are, and learning how to negotiate with our fellow playmates when things went wrong, or someone cheated, or a ball went

where it shouldn't have gone. You negotiated and learned and did all of those things. How do we bring that back for kids in an era when parents, myself included. I'm not nearly as bad as Chuck is, though, Chuck, if he could wrap the queue up in bubble wrap and send her out to the world every day, he would. That's his baby girl. But how do we get back in an era where we know too much? You know, we know every bad thing that's happened across the country because it's all on CNN or MSNBC.

Speaker 4

Or Fox News or wherever we watch it.

Speaker 5

I think if we don't, we're in a real danger of having the next generation be even more sheltered and more incapable, and more anxious and more depressed.

Speaker 4

So, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5

Unleash the hounds. I was on a friend of mine's radio show this morning back in Louisville, and Q was four when we left there. So when I say she's fifteen now and they say, oh, what kind of teenager is she? I'm like, you know, I'm honestly a little disappointed because I've been practicing my whole adult life, getting ready to have a teenager that tried to get away with the stuff that I got away with, And nobody's getting away with anything because nobody's even trying.

Speaker 4

Just really good kids, What have we done?

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Speaker 4

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Speaker 4

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Speaker 5

We've talked pretty extensively about SB three, and now it has passed, it has still not become a law. The governor has the option to either sign it, veto it, or allow it to go in the law without signature. But I thought I would bring in a smarty Pants about gun laws to find out if this thing is even constitutional and joining me now the Second Amendment smarty Pants from the Independence Institute.

Speaker 4

He's Dave Coppel. Hey, Dave, how you doing.

Speaker 2

I'm good?

Speaker 7

How about you?

Speaker 4

I'm doing fantastic. I've been waiting for this bill to be done because in my mind there was no doubt that it was going to pass. So I've been waiting to see how it was going to turn out. And I'm assuming that you have had a chance to dive in and look and see what finally came out of the legislature.

Speaker 7

Well, it's not final yet. This it was introduced in the Senate, past the Senate in one form, then went over to the House, was amended in the House to be different from the Senate form. So now it has to go back to the Senate, and the Senate can concur with the House amendments, or they can reject them and just say screw you.

Speaker 4

House.

Speaker 7

Either pass it our way or forget it, or what's most likely, they will vote for it to have a conference committee. And a conference committee is six legislators, three from each House, typically two from the majority party one from the minority party, so you'd have a four to two anti gun conference committee. But that is still going forward. And then once the conference committee comes out with a report of whatever however to resolve the differences between House

and Senate. Then at that point the bill goes to the governor, as you said, to either sign it or vetail it, or let it become all without his signature.

Speaker 4

So what are the big differences between the Senate and the House right now?

Speaker 7

The House version is even more elaborate, and it moves the licensing system which is currently only for some guns in the bill, but will certainly be over time expanded to all guns. It creates the licensing system to be run by the Colorado Department of Parks and Wildlife.

Speaker 4

Two And okay, wait a minute, so that is in which in which house has that portion in it. That's pretty significant.

Speaker 7

I mean, that's that was putting it on the House side. And you have to understand about this thing in general, that this is by people who hate guns, hate gun owners, and what they the things they say in favor of the bill are almost entirely lies. So you had testimony in the House, for example, by people saying, oh, we need this bill because of the murders at Virginia Tech, the college, the college, and they're the criminal used guns

that don't appear to be covered by this bill. And the other thing is supposedly this bill is to stop mass shootings purportedly, but that's a lie too, you know. Now, Originally this was a gun ban bill that would ban all future sales. Under pressure from Governor Polus who the bill was turned into a very complicated and severe licensing system, and the core of the system is to require lots of hours of training. So if this bill works, mass shooters are going to be better trained.

Speaker 4

Great, that sounds like that's going to be really helpful.

Speaker 7

Yes, this is a bill designed by the text to make mass shooters more competent. And that's actually quite a dangerous thing because some past shooters are not. Like the guy who attacked the Aurora movie theater in twenty twelve, there were a lot of lives saved because a he used a one hundred round drum magazine, and you know which the it's like a coil as the ammunition moves through that circular drum, and at the current technology, magazines of that size jam all the time, and his did.

And so then after that jammed up, which gave people and a time to flee while he cleared the jam. He then started using thirty round magazines in his rifle, except instead of putting thirty rounds in, he had overloaded them by putting in thirty two rounds, which if you go to a firearms safety class, I'll tell you don't do it. Yeah, if you have real powerful thumbs, you can jam an extra round or two into the magazine by further compressing the spring that sits at the bottom

of the magazine. But if you do that, you increase the chance of the magazine malfunctioning, which it did in this case. So we are now going to have in Colorado some of the most competent, well trained mass shooters. That's what this bill leads to.

Speaker 5

My frustration here is that in my view, this is pretty much the closest thing to a poll tax on firearms that I've ever seen. I mean, it's one thing to say, look, you have to pay for concealed carry permit, you know, which is a whole different horse of another color for this conversation. But this is going to create a situation where people who may live in a high crime neighborhood and they're living in poverty, they're not going to be able to afford either time or money investment

to do all this stuff. And now we've essentially created an entire clas the people that if they want to protect themselves are going to become lawbreakers.

Speaker 7

Well that's the point. The gun ban lobbies are opposed on moral grounds to self defense by people who don't work for the government. Their view is, if you want protection from somebody who's attacking you violently, you call the police and they'll send a government employee over to take care of it for you, hopefully after they arrive, you know, by the typical response time for nine to one one highest level life you know, life in danger right now

type calls. It varies around the country, but it's seven to twelve minutes in general. Obviously, sometimes longer in catastrophic situations where the police take a very long time. So yeah, if the police show up eight minutes after some guy breaks into your house and starts attacking you and you're still alive, well that's nice. But the point is they don't. They are morally opposed to self defense. They think it's disorderly.

Speaker 5

Is this bill going to be constitutionalist it comes out with all these requirements, I mean, which surely it's going to be challenged.

Speaker 7

Yes, and that's a channel. Well, I'll give you the argument on each side. On the one hand, the current controlling precedent is the Supreme Court's decision in New York State Rifle and Pistol Association Versus Bruin, which held said that New York can't deny carry permits to the general public. You know, the New York said, will only give you a carry permit if you have a special need that's distinct from the rest of the general public. And by six to three the Supreme Court said, you can't do

that for a constitutional right. You know, whatever a constitutional right is, it is not something that is only for special people as determined by the government.

Speaker 5

And isn't there a similar provision in this bill though, that you have to be certified as having the right kind of course by a local sheriff or what am I thinking of?

Speaker 7

Well, now, let's so. On the one hand, no, and Bruin also said, we you should decide cases based on the original the text and original meaning of the Second Amendment, and the closer you get in time to the enactment of the Second Amendment in seventeen ninety one, the more any particular practice shows what the original meaning is. And something that was enacted after nineteen hundred doesn't give you any evidence about original meaning. And up to nineteen hundred.

There's no licensing system of this type anywhere for American citizens with full constitutional rights, So that's the argument why it's unconstitutional. On the other hand, in the Bruin case, they there is footnote nine, which says, we don't mean to call in doubt the constitution constitutionality of shall issue licensing systems like Colorado adopted for concealed carry in two thousand and one, which is, you know, you have to you have to fill out a form, you pay a fee.

In some states, including Colorado, have have some training, and the court said that's okay. Now there's a contradiction between them saying that's okay in footnote nine versus their more general rule of just stick with original meaning and original practices.

But courts in general are taking footnote nine as meaning that licensing systems for concealed carry certainly are okay as long as they comply with the Supreme Court's rule that you can't have lengthy wait times or exorbitant feats, so they have to.

Speaker 5

Be reasonable to the court standard. Without a clearly defined court standard.

Speaker 7

You know, so you've got counties in California that are taking over a year process concealed carry permits. That seems like a violation of Bruin, although even in California the courts have been they've taken some baby steps on addressing that, but not not very much. And the fiends how much will they be who knows. But back to your point about that this this is designed and intended. I mean, it's an example of systemic discrimination against poor people, which

are who are disproportionately people of color. Because you got to you gotta a here's the steps you got to go. If you want a concealed carry permit. You find a class, take the class, which can be done in one day, and then you go and part of that class, and some of the class can be online, not the whole thing. Then you take your certificate from the class, You go to the sheriff's office, you fill out a form, you get fingerprinted, they take a picture, and then several weeks

later you get your permit. And they could have done something like if the objective were moderate gun control, they could have have done a similar system like that for licensing to possess a firearm or to buy a firearm. But instead, first you go to some third party vendor who conducts background checks and you pay that third party vendor to conduct a background check. Then, so it's timeline for morek once once you get that done, you get

your certificate, go to the Sheriff's office. Sheriff's office, You fill out a form from the Sheriff's office. Then the sheriff processes that, charges you a fee. Then the sheriff sends to Colorado Parks and Wildlife a record that you were eligible to take a safety class, uh, to acquire one of these firearms after and then then you oh, so you've already got multiple steps, three steps before you can even take the class as opposed with a concealed

handguttingtory permit. You just you just take the class. Then after you've passed, then you're The classes are either twelve hours, which have to be done completely in person on two separate days. You know. Now you know, imagine you're a single mom who's working hard, you know, to provide for your children, and uh, you know, had doesn't have all this time to take off from work or to leave her children alone, or or you know, maybe the money to pay for a babysitter. Then you take the twelve

hour class for whatever that costs. Or if you've had a hundred safety class, which I have, which is a very long class, and that's typically taught in like eight evenings, although happily you can take in Colorado. You can take much of that online except for a final half day session which has to be in person. And if you've taken the if you've already got hunter safety, which is sort of not typical for a poor person living in five points.

Speaker 2

Yeah, then.

Speaker 7

If you've got you've already got hunter safety, you can take a four hour class. If you don't have a hundred safety you have to take a twelve hour you'd take the twelve hour class. Then after you've done that, you get a permit that allows you for the next five years to purchase the firearms that are covered in the bill. But what if you took the But it gets worse. If you took the a class more than five years ago, that often doesn't count, so you got to go back and take more class.

Speaker 5

So wait a minute, what if you've taken a concealed carry class? That doesn't count for anything. And this person on the text line just asked a really really good question, Mandy, what will Parks and Wildlife teach me about guns? That twenty four years in the army with multiple deployments hasn't already taught me.

Speaker 7

Probably nothing. Well, I guess from the sponsor's point of view, they would teach you about Colorado specific laws, so you would have, for example, among the mandatory things they have to teach you about in the classes are Colorado's red flag laws and things like that. I but again, you

don't need twelve hours no teach that. And by the way, in contrast, the Concealed Carry Act was passed in two thousand and one bipartisan and negotiated with the sheriffs who were still very much see themselves as protectors of the people, including their constitutional rights, including the Second Amendment, and the

legislators during the hearings were complaining about this problem. Specifically said that, you know, it's a problem in Colorado that so many sheriffs think of themselves as defenders of the people's Second Amendment rights.

Speaker 8

Problem In two thousand.

Speaker 7

And one act, yes, your military experience could count for the required training.

Speaker 5

What somebody just asked this, do any of these new bills change something, change anything for someone who already has a concealed carry permit?

Speaker 4

Or are we grandfathered.

Speaker 7

Well, this bill doesn't affect your right to carry, okay, so it's just being able to buy a firearm, which is even worse, Dave.

Speaker 4

This it's going to do to firearm stores.

Speaker 7

It's about the right to buy currently it's about the right to buy some firearms. There's no question that if this becomes law, the bigots and haters will be back to expand this step by step to eventually cover all firearms, which is then the point is to make it as difficult as they can under political circumstances for people to acquire farms, because they think firearms are evil and gun owners are evil.

Speaker 5

Dave, This legislature baffles me because at the same time they're doing all this to further restrict the ability of legal gun owners, who a vast majority of whom, especially concealed carry permit holders, are never going to commit a crime. And at the same time, they're trying to lower the penalties if someone doesn't hit anyone in a drive by shooting, so they can get out earlier and not.

Speaker 4

Face the same penalties.

Speaker 5

And I'm thinking to myself, they're true empowering the criminals here, they're disarming the people and empowering the criminals. I don't understand why they don't see that, because our.

Speaker 7

Well to state what they would say if you put some sodium pentathal in them and made them tell the truth that America is founded on white supremacy, and capitalism is inherent and white is inherently white supremacist. America is exists on stolen land. The whole system is illegitimate, and therefore people who commit crimes are more victims of the system. They're they're the marginalized, the people have been mistreated for so long, and everybody else is to some extent complicit

in the systemic oppression that makes people commit crimes. So, as you said, if you perpetrate a drive by shooting and end up hitting somebody's spinal column and severing it so they're in a wheelchair for the rest of their life, you, under current law can be charged with attempted murder, which

carries a penalty just one step below actually completing him. Right, but this would like move it way down, and so it would be it would make it a significantly lesser penalty for attempting to kill somebody if you don't succeed.

Speaker 4

Uh, it's we're living in crazy times. I'm talking with.

Speaker 5

Dave Koppol and if you just joined us, he was giving the litany of reasons why Dave just I'm sure has heard those litany of reasons.

Speaker 4

That's not his belief system. I don't want to.

Speaker 5

I don't want people to be confused about why I left this left wing wackle on the show. Dave's work can be seen and read at complete Colorado dot com. He is part of the amazing team at the Independence Institute.

Speaker 4

Dave good to talk to you.

Speaker 5

Let's regroup when this thing finally passes or whatever. And and do you think the Governor's going to sign this, because we all know the governor has presidential aspirations.

Speaker 4

If he signs it, it could be a huge problem.

Speaker 7

It's less of a problem for him that he armed with. Governor Polus in his heart does not hate gun owners. He would be perfectly happy to leave them alone. And if we didn't have gun control bill, he wouldn't be pushing the legislature to enact gun control bills. But the fact is, the billionaire lobbies, you know Michael Bloomberg, who believe me, his security guards don't follow the gun laws that applied everybody else because they're retired in New York

City police. The governor is timid and submissive to the to the hate groups in the legislature because they have a lot of political power. You know. Bloomberg put in a million dollars in the last election just for Democratic Senator Tom Sullivan, who's the sponsor of this bill. And the governor got the bill changed from a ban which would have allowed people to keep their existing guns but no more sales, to this oppressive licensing system. So I think in his view he's threaded the needle. Is he

can run for president and sandemocratic primaries. Oh, I did something about so called assault weapons. But then in the general election he can say, oh, look what a moderate fellow I am. They wanted a ban and I said, no, we just have to make it a licensing systom that poor people can't comply with.

Speaker 4

I hate that.

Speaker 5

I think you're right, Dave, I'm out of town. I mean, I'm out of time, Dave Koppol from the Independence Institute.

Speaker 4

I appreciate your time today, Thank you very much. All right, we'll be right back.

Speaker 5

We will have him back on again when the bill finally passes and finally goes into law. And one of the reasons I didn't talk about this. And I admire all of the people that showed up at the Capitol and testified and did all of those things. And I'm happy that there were a few concessions wrangled out of this. But ultimately I knew the cake was baked before it

even before the ingredients were put on the counter. The Colorado legislature doesn't have to listen to you, it doesn't have to listen to the Republicans.

Speaker 4

They can do whatever they want.

Speaker 5

So I'll have Dave back on when this bill finally passes and is either signed or let go into law, and we'll have a conversation about what that looks like once again. Now, So an interesting thing happened. I think everybody that I know loves Cereal? Right, I mean, is there any a rod you love cereal?

Speaker 7

Right?

Speaker 4

Do you love cereal? When I was a child.

Speaker 5

See, here's my beef with cereal. Cereal is so not good for you, sure, just sure.

Speaker 4

Not good for now.

Speaker 5

If you do the unfrosted like bricks of shredded wheat, they're not bad, but they're also absolutely flavorless.

Speaker 4

Yes they're bad. Yeah, they're bad.

Speaker 5

But that being said, we don't buy a lot of cereal. If we do, it's honey nut checks or it's honey nut cheerios. Those are the only two we buy, and we don't buy them very often. So this week I was actually in the school, my daughter's school. They're working on their fall musical, and because the kids are rehearsing late, the parents volunteered to taking food and it was breakfast for dinner the night they chuck and I took in food and I saw a box of fruity pebbles the

inside of a box. I've never been a fruity pebbles fan, not just not a cereal laborate. If I was gonna eat a fake fruit flavored cereal, it was gonna be fruit loops. That was always my preferred fake fruit cereal over fruity pebbles. But I'm looking in the box, and I'm looking at the colors of this cereal because it's little flex it kind of looks like rainbow.

Speaker 4

Colored kitty litter in a way, flaky kitty litter. And I'm looking at it, I go, these colors.

Speaker 5

Don't occur in nature. They're not natural colors, and that cereal is full of synthetic dyes. And all of those synthetic guys that are in our are food are there strictly for marketing. They have nothing to do with flavor, except as flavor is enhanced by our eyeballs, right, So they don't serve any purpose other than to make the food look appealing, so you will want to eat it, and then maybe you will want to buy more because the sugar rush that it gave you is desirable and.

Speaker 4

You want to move on with more of that. A funny thing has happened in the.

Speaker 5

World of Maha Maha, of course, being RFK Junior making America healthy again. Now states are moving forward to ban synthetic dyes used to make these brightly colored fake foods, and I am floored, absolutely flabbergasted that West Virginia, which ranks at the bottom of the US like number forty nine or fifty for most health metrics, became the first to sign a sweeping statewide ban on seven such dies

this week. Now, as in twenty states, and some of these are red states, West Virginia is a deep red state. They are Trump Country in West Virginia.

Speaker 4

They love President Trump.

Speaker 5

And you've got West Virginia to ride across into blue state California. They're making bipartisan pushes to restrict access to dies.

Speaker 4

And here's why. There is a body of music music.

Speaker 5

There's a body of study research that has connected some of these dies with neurobehavioral problems in children. Now, it doesn't mean if your kid eats Freddy Pebble's, they're going to have ADHD or they're going to have some neurodevelopment issue, but some kids seem to be deeply, deeply affected by this school musical not Fall Musical.

Speaker 4

Did I say fall Musical? I think I said school Musical. I might have said it's the Spring musical. Obviously, sorry about that text, or if I was on it's altogether possible I was right.

Speaker 5

So Republicans are now leading this and it's really only a matter of time before RFK Junior bans this stuff anyway, But it really looking at that box, I was kind of struck by the reality of how much big food and we're gonna call them big food, just like we have big oil, we have big pharma, we have big food. Big food are the people that specialized in ultra processed foods and ultra processed foods are not good for you. Now,

they may not all be horrible for you. Some may be emotionally good for you, but neutrally bad for you. But overall, if you are so far away from the natural product that you cannot list the ingredients on the package, it's just not a good thing to eat. And they have spent so much time and money and energy and sugar trying to.

Speaker 4

Get us to eat these foods.

Speaker 5

And now we have a guy in Robert kid Junior, And though I disagree with some of his, you know, stances on some issues, he's genuinely concerned about our food supply. If you've never traveled in Europe before, let me tell you what I hear from people. So often it's I wish I had started charging.

Speaker 4

People, Like when people said this to me, has a great Give me a dollar, I'd have enough money to go to Europe. I have met so many people who say, you know, if I eat bread here in the United States, it really messes up my guts. But when I'm in Europe, I can eat anything and nothing upsets my stomach.

Speaker 5

You go into their grocery stores and their markets. They don't have row upon row upon, row upon row of hyper processed packaged food. They have baked goods that were maked last night to be sold today. And by the way, when you run out, you run out because they maked them and that's all they had. So it's it's really interesting to me that finally we're starting to get a pushback on this mandy. They can take my count chocola when they pry it for my cold, dead, diabetic fingers.

I used to be a Lucky Charms junkie when I was a kid. But here's the weird thing about me. Do you know what I like about the Lucky Charms?

Speaker 4

Not the marshmallows. I like those hard, crunchy pieces whatever they are, no clue what they actually are, but they're delicious. So I'm excited.

Speaker 5

I'm excited to see some of this stuff happen because I think that public education is great. But we are making, we're building foods that are designed to be addictive. And they're owned by the same companies that used to own tobacco companies, so they know about addictive. So if we can clean up the food supply, especially stuff that kids.

Speaker 4

Are eating, and make it so it's not quite so bad because they're going to continue like this texture to eat their count chocola.

Speaker 5

I'm just the point in my life where it's just not worth it. Like Eh, Mandy booze pot tobacco aren't good for you? Should we ban those? No, But banning something that is unnecessary in a food item that could be harmful as well, and a lot of times people don't even know they're getting it, is a little bit different.

We know, when you go buy a pack of cigarettes or you get a dip and you put it in your mouth at this stage in the game, if you don't know that it's addictive and bad for you, it wouldn't really matter anyway, because you've decided that doesn't matter or it's not gonna happen to you. So this, I think, is a little bit different when we restrict a lot of stuff, especially ingredients that we eat.

Speaker 4

So yeah, anyway, sugar pops with ice cream yum. Okay, I want to act horrified right now, but I'm not saying I would eat it, but I would definitely try that. Huh, sugar pops? Oh with cream? It just with cream and I read ice cream. I like mine better, not as much as I do.

Speaker 3

Here.

Speaker 4

Having two German short haired pointers h omg with ice cream. That's probably too much sugar, even for me. I'm not saying I would eat it on a regular basis, but crunchy cereal on cold ice cream kind of sounds intriguing. Can you do that at cold Stone Creamery?

Speaker 7

Ay?

Speaker 1

Rod?

Speaker 3

Do you know?

Speaker 4

Are you a cold Stone Creamery guy?

Speaker 8

Can you do what? On what?

Speaker 4

Get cereal in your ice cream at cold Stone Creamery? I feel like they have that as a topic. Yeah, I think it.

Speaker 5

Would depend on it. I mean, it would depend on which of it you know you were doing. Mandy, I always taught my children to eat things that.

Speaker 4

Were as close to what God made. That way is healthier.

Speaker 5

We also make our own bread because we can actually pronounce each of the ingredients.

Speaker 6

That is key.

Speaker 5

One of the most helpful pieces of advice I read. I was in college when I read it. I said, if you want to eat healthier, the easiest thing to do is only eat products.

Speaker 4

That you know what the ingredients are on the back.

Speaker 5

And if there are a bunch of products that you can't buy in that grocery store, don't buy it because it's.

Speaker 4

All ultra processed. As part of their.

Speaker 6

Well where to go at the end of the rainbow has lucky charms on it at cold Stone, Oh.

Speaker 4

That seep with that lucky charms.

Speaker 5

I wouldn't want in there because I don't I don't want to bunch that I would be interested in, like I would be interested in honey nut checks on there.

Speaker 4

I think that would be good.

Speaker 6

Lucky charms, ice cream, Lucky Charms, cereal, whipped cream, and gold glitter. That seems excessive ice cream at the end of the rainbow, and it looks like it comes in like a green waffle cone bowl.

Speaker 5

No, I would totally do vanilla ice cream with some honey nut checks. But that's as far as I'm going not doing that. Other people are saying cereal on ice cream is the best.

Speaker 2

How did I miss that?

Speaker 4

It does sound good? I mean, out of all the junk food that I've.

Speaker 5

Consumed in my life, how did it never occur to me to put cereal with ice cream.

Speaker 4

I will take soft serve and French fries. Thank you, though, well duh, I mean thanks Wendy's.

Speaker 5

We appreciate you because we might not have thought about that without the you know, the frosty and the fries. Mandy, there's some cereal top one of those new trendy frozen yogurt places.

Speaker 4

Look, guys and gals.

Speaker 5

I got burned by those frozen yogurt places in the eighties and nineties when they all told us that.

Speaker 4

It was healthier.

Speaker 5

But what they didn't tell us was that it was all full of sugar. And we were basically eating ice cream topped with m and ms and oreo.

Speaker 4

Cookies and nuts and whipped cream and whatever, like we were all gonna stay healthy. Eating that froyo is for when ice cream is not an option. I don't mind good froyo. I don't like icy like ghetto fro do, you know, And I don't want to want that where it's like yucky and gross. Nobody wants it like that, not even people who live in disadvantaged neighborhoods. One ingredient foods.

Speaker 5

Are the healthiest, they're also sometimes boring. This is one of the things that a Rod and I were talking about. It's like, yes, eating healthy is sometimes really boring.

Speaker 4

You gotta be real good. It's seasoning. Yeah, oh boy, yes, oh.

Speaker 5

Although I have discovered Jimmy cheeries, you know, like a mix of chopped green things with a little bit of oil and you know, a little zap of vinegar to kind of spice that kind of stuff. And I made Piking gyo the other day and put that on a bunch of stuff, and that was really good. Anyway, Mandy, doing rice crispy trees with fruity pebbles is amazing.

Speaker 4

Oh my god, that just made my teeth hurt.

Speaker 3

Wow.

Speaker 4

I can't do rice.

Speaker 5

Krispy trees anymore. They're just they're too sweet. I cannot do it so good. Although plain rice crispies are great on ice cream, says this text, Yucca app is perfect for that, Mandy y Uka. It breaks down all of the ingredients for you and gives the product a ratings score. It even tells you the health effects that the bad ingredients will cause. Now that might be a bridge too far for me, because sometimes I will look at the bad ingredients and I will decide.

Speaker 4

This product might be worth it. Not every day, but some of the times, Mandy.

Speaker 5

A few years ago, Baskin Robins had three different flavors of ice cream with fruit loop cereal. So obviously I'm just somehow on the outs with us, and I just I didn't know. Hey, I just want to have a follow up to a comment that I made a couple of weeks ago about Andrew Tate and how people on the right are sucking up to him like he's some

kind of person we should want to be around. He's now been accused and a police report has been filed of choking and slapping his girlfriend, and she released text messages of him talking about how he needs to beat her because it makes him feel good. Aout himself. This guy is a scumbag and when when? When will we learn that sometimes sometimes we don't have to immediately like people that the left rejects. We can say, yeah, we're not interested in there in our team either. Mandy, worry

not about the ice cream and cereal. Your goldfish on chili has elevated you to food goddess. I maintain that I may have been the first to put goldfish on chili, and it is amazing, absolutely amazing, delicious, just totally delicious, like frosted lucky charms.

Speaker 4

Anyway, so Andrew takes a scumbag and want to get that in. We've got a couple of really good videos on the blog.

Speaker 5

I'm trying to mention the blog every hour now because I feel like you guys in the one o'clock and the two o'clock hour, you don't get the same blog love that we give. We don't have to do that, we don't have to do the whole thing, but I want to. I'm trying to give attention to something you put on the blog today. First of all, we have another heroes, Thank you.

Speaker 4

These are so good and.

Speaker 5

The people that are getting these checks, they get big giant cardboard checks. They're also deserving and they're great stories. But that's not what even what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4

You've got to go to the blog today and see the full back tattoo that one of our winner he was the winner, right, and one of our winners has a full back tattoo of John Elway's jersey. And you call yourself a Broncos fan.

Speaker 6

We are trying to get it in the space enough to where mister Elway sees it offers up an autograph so he can then tattoo that autograph on the back of the jersey.

Speaker 5

I mean, if I am John Elway, i am I'm going to this guy's house, right. I just think that that level of dedication. Come on, you know what, if I'm John Elway, And of course I'm not. But if I'm John Elway, I'm taking this guy to dinner. I'm taking to dinner and talking about you know, I mean what, I don't think any of the listeners have ever gotten my jersey tattooed on their back. I mean, I don't have a jersey, but you guys could have made one up.

Speaker 4

Cromwell number seven. Also, that seems kind of like I'm putting myself up there with Elway.

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Man.

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If I was gonna choose a number, it would be eleven, eleven, number one number. I'm so good, I'm number one twice.

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To the third hour of the program. Coming up in two thirty, James Blanchard from Blanchard Family Wines is going to pop in to talk about the April Wine Walk coming up. And I have to say, I just got a text message from someone and it's such a fair

criticism that I have to share with you. It'd be wrong if I didn't so if you weren't listening, we were talking in the last segment that various states are now banning certain food dies and additives that have been shown to cause neuro issues in some children, things like ADHD and other stuff like that.

Speaker 4

And this texter said, Mandy.

Speaker 5

A month or so ago, you dissected someone for saying or promoting something that.

Speaker 4

Was abhor it to both you and me.

Speaker 5

Your solution was for this person to lose his or her job and never be hired again. Today you are advocating for a ban on certain foods or food additives. What is the difference between the woke crowd knowing what is good for us and legislating those policies and your advocation for restrictions on our diets because you know what is better for us. I've been listening to you since your k how days at six in the morning. I

swear I've heard your libertarian roots ad nauseum. What is libertarian about your desire to silence someone with whom you disagree and your advocacy for taking our food choices away. No matter how sensible your advocacy is, it is not your call.

Speaker 4

Now. I have no idea what they're talking about for the first instance. So I'm not saying it didn't happen. I just don't know what you're talking about, Texter. So I'm just going to address this issue right now. You're one hundred percent right, You're absolutely right. And what I did there was look at the fact that we have this entire regulatory system on our food shape like all of it, and instead of saying, what is that regulatory system really doing? Because now the regulatory system has been

captured by big food. People that work at the FDA, the USD, they just cycle in and out of big food and big pharma. It's the same thing. They're basically regulating themselves. So what I should have advocated for.

Speaker 5

Was the dissolution and I'm not even being sarcastic, the dissolution of our entire regulatory structure and allow the chips to fall where they may. Now, the issue in this stuff is that unless we are going to restrict and I am, by the way, in full favor of this, I think if you are getting snap benefits, you.

Speaker 4

Should have to buy real food with it. You should buy actual food, you know, real actual food with it.

Speaker 5

I don't think that snap benefits should be used for any kind of jon't food, any kind of soda, and if you don't like it, well, then you know, work your way off snap benefits and then you can buy whatever you want to buy. So I do think there are things where you can exert influence because there's this social construct or social contract that should come with responsibilities on the on the side of the recipient. But you're right, Texter,

You're absolutely right. I guess it's frustrating because there's so much information in the world, and so many people are consuming so much information that really doesn't matter. There's a lot of people that aren't consuming the kind of information that we need them to consume about nutrition and taking care of themselves, and what ends up happening is they end up putting a tremendous strain on our medical system.

Speaker 4

And so the urge to say you've got.

Speaker 5

To do better, or at least the food industry needs to do better, because these people are obviously not going to take responsibility for themselves is pretty strong, as evidenced by the fact that I just got called out rightly for being very unlibertarian. People should have the right to eat whatever it is they want to eat. They should have the right to put the crap into their bodies

that they want to put into their bodies. But unfortunately, the way our system is set up, the rest of us, in the form of taxpayer dollars, have to bear the brunch of all their bad choices. So until we go full liberty in and strip everything away, right just like, hey, let the chips fall where they may, but we're not going to pay for the consequences of your bad decision making.

Because an elderly person who is type two diabetic because of their lifestyle choices, they have high blood pressure, they probably have high cholesterol, though I stop really worrying.

Speaker 4

About that at this point in my life.

Speaker 5

They're going to be a greater burden to the healthcare system that is Medicare and therefore on the taxpayers.

Speaker 4

So I guess in my desire to sort of rain all that back in in the current system that we have, I got over exuberant. Thank you for checking me. I appreciate that, I really do very much.

Speaker 5

So funny how you're reporting on this male teacher's inappropriate activity with a female student, but then with the lesbian teacher who.

Speaker 4

Groomed that girl at Columby in a while back. Somehow it didn't because are you joking me? Texture? No offense to this texture.

Speaker 5

If you weren't listening to every single show, you should shut up on the tax line about what I did and did not cover.

Speaker 4

We covered that extensively on.

Speaker 2

The show, on the blog.

Speaker 4

You can go back and look it up yourself.

Speaker 5

That really, that is one thing that continues to annoy me in this job when somebody who obviously doesn't listen to the show enough sends me a nasty text message.

Speaker 4

You're like, why aren't you covering a goat? President Trump has to it? Why aren't you It's like, I'm sorry, We've just been an hour and a half on that yesterday.

Speaker 5

If you don't listen every day, lady, text and ask if I covered the story, because we covered it. I mean, like on days we covered that story cause it's terrible. We have another story on the blog today out of Durango.

Speaker 4

I know that Durango has always been kind of like little Boulder in terms of its politics.

Speaker 5

It's always been super liberal. There's a little college there. It's this little bob kind of tucked away in the mountains. It's absolutely lovely, Like I love the town of Durrago. But Durango is now full of the nastiest liberals.

Speaker 4

That I have I've seen since Honestly, Kentucky.

Speaker 5

Louisville, Kentucky has some of the nastiest liberals I've ever dealt with in my life. And I mean nasty, mean all full of people that would probably run over you if they're with their car if they had the chance. First, we have two stories out of Durango. The first one is a woman who is recovering from cancer finally gets clear to go work out in her little rec center.

She wears her Make America Healthy Again hat and a cratchity old man comes up and tries to you know, yell at her in her face and is tapping the hat trying to knock it off her head, and the people in the gym.

Speaker 4

Around him are applauding him. And now we have a story out of Durango where a former math teacher I guess there's something in that she's former with a trans husband. They took in a girl who thinks she's a.

Speaker 5

Boy against the will of this girl's parents, And when the parents took the cops over to.

Speaker 4

Get this girl, who's by the way, is seventeen. She is a minor.

Speaker 5

The cops were like, oh, sorry, there's nothing really we can do. She doesn't want to leave. We're just going to leave her here. What is happening in Durango? I mean, if they just lost taking leave of their senses, Randy, this is from a Texter all testifying court that you talked at length about the Columbine story and the jeff Go school district. Thank you, Texter, thank you very much. Oh clarification from the initial texture. It wasn't reported when

it happened, is what I meant. I was on your side. It was hidden for so long and should have been exposed earlier. Okay, I apologize, but you can understand my fit of peak.

Speaker 4

Mandy and Cheyenne.

Speaker 5

During lunch, there will be fifteen people in line any given time at Maverick buying a fountain drink and two slices of pizza, all using an EBT card. They can't go to the self checkout because the clerk has to give them a receipt. Of course, ninety five percent of these people are not healthy. I didn't use their characterization of the not healthy because it wasn't very nice, not very nice at all. We're going to take a very

quick time out. When we get back, I need you in the meantime to go look at this video on the blog. This is my favorite story. So in Wisconsin. I believe it's in northeastern Wisconsin. So that's way way up there, right way way up there in northeastern Wisconsin. There's a zoo and they had a big snowstorm and these two otters. I envision them because I watch too many Disney movies. I envision them plotting their escape right they see the snowfalling, They're like, ha, we've dug a

hole into the fence. And these two honters, these two river Owters, they escape from their zoo enclosure and now they're on the lamb and they've got video of these two otters playing in the snow. And seriously, if you're having a bad day, otters.

Speaker 4

Playing in the snow will take care of it.

Speaker 7

You know.

Speaker 5

I love the Free Press dot com. If you do not subscribe to the Freepress dot com, you're missing some really great journalism. That's a website founded by disaffected journalists out of major news organizations who got tired of having their stuff edited or not published at all.

Speaker 4

So the Freepress dot.

Speaker 5

Com is they do really great work and today they have a column an argument. Rather, they call it the fight Club, and today's fight club is does baseball suck?

Speaker 4

And I want to ask you guys a couple of questions. And here's the thing.

Speaker 5

We're going to take the part where this show is preempted by baseball out of the equation. Okay, this is a conversation about the game itself, because today is opening day, although the Rockies and the Rays will not play until tomorrow. And the good news about this series coming up, the Rockies at Rays is that as a before I moved here and became a Rockies fan, I used to be.

Speaker 4

A Raise fan.

Speaker 5

So either way I can be happy about this outcome in this first series.

Speaker 4

Okay. That being said, there are a lot of people who say.

Speaker 5

That baseball should not be the national pastime and that you know, attention spans have changed and we need to somehow make you know baseball and more like TikTok, I don't know, I mean, what are you looking.

Speaker 4

For from baseball? Baseball has made some changes that for fans like me, kind of old timer fan, I was not happy with initially, but I do understand the need for it. The pitch clock has been a huge change.

Speaker 5

The pitch clock has sped up the games so dramatically, and a couple of things I do like. I do like them only being able to throw to first a certain amount of times, right, because there's nothing more frustrating. And it always seems when the pitcher's having trouble, like the picture's in a bit of a jam, trying to settle himself down, they'll throw to first a couple of times trying to get that guy out. And sometimes they'll

throw to first like six times. Okay, those rules have been changed, But I really want to ask you guys sports fans out there, if you are a sports fan, where does baseball fall in the top four? And yes, I'm going to say the top four, and that would be the NFL, the NHL, the NBA, and Major League Baseball. Now, some would argue that we have to start adding in Major League soccer, but major League soccer is not there yet.

I think they're growing at such a happen rate because so many kids are playing soccer now in school and they grow up fans and they know the game and they love the game and Frankly, they're not playing football. So I'm curious where do these sports rank. And I'd love to hear from you people, and I can only do it via text message for this segment because I've got James Blantard coming in the next segment.

Speaker 4

I love baseball for the following reasons.

Speaker 5

I love it because you sit out there at the ballpark and I read something in this story and it said it's like a meditation, and.

Speaker 4

That is what it is.

Speaker 5

It's like a meditation. It's like the time that you're at the game. If you engage and watch the game, life slows down just a little bit. And for that two and a half hours, which is what games really cost now, I mean that's the amount of time they run now, is about two.

Speaker 4

And a half hours.

Speaker 5

You just sit there and enjoy being outside, and you enjoy the crack of the bet and you enjoy great pitching, and you enjoy watching these guys try to make incredible plays. It's just it's such a great experience and it's so zen for me compared to any other sport with so much going on, and you know, it's just different.

Speaker 4

I like it, Mandy. I'd rather get kicked in the crutch than watch baseball. Okay, so that's one. Not for baseball. It's been a long time since it was a national pastime. Football is now.

Speaker 5

Yes, indeedy not having a salary cap limits how great Major League Baseball can be a lot of people are starting to make that case, and the Dodgers will have no one to blame but themselves.

Speaker 4

When it happens. I do think it is going to happen.

Speaker 5

You can't have the Kansas City Royals and the Los Angeles Dodgers in the same game because it's so so different in order of preference football, hockey, baseball, basketball.

Speaker 4

Thank you Texter for paying attention. It sucks because it's four innings too long.

Speaker 5

It's in last place. When I go to a baseball game, I don't go until a fifth inning. Behind the NFL number one, football number two, basketball number three, baseball number four, hockey. For me, college football is number one, baseball number two, NFL number three, then the NHL, the NBA, and your numbers are messed up.

Speaker 4

People.

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There.

Speaker 5

A lot of you were saying the NFL, but a lot of you are also saying Major League Baseball. But a lot of you are also saying Major League Baseball is fifth, and you've now provided me with a different sport like.

Speaker 4

Golf or lacrosse or soccer, be goes above baseball. Baseball is the.

Speaker 5

Most interesting, cerebral and the subject of the best sports movies.

Speaker 4

And that, my friends, is why baseball rules. Thank you, Texter. I'm going to leave it on that note.

Speaker 5

When we get back, there's another wine walk where you can have the chance to try some of the great Colorado wines that you hear the wind you you talk about all the time on this show. And coming up next, we're going to talk to James Blanchard from Blanchard Family Wines.

If you're coming down to Spring training week, like if you're one of those people that just comes down for the day to just soak in the vibe, because the vibe is amazing, you should wander over to the dairy block and check out that whole little alley on the dairy block.

Speaker 4

It's so good, it's so so good.

Speaker 5

We'll talk to James Blanchard next from Blanchard Family Wines. He is James Blanchard. Because it's about time again for a little stroll through the dairy block in the coolest alley in Denver, Thank you many.

Speaker 1

It is.

Speaker 4

Have you seen the weather outside? It is almost opening day, it's festival season. It's beautiful. It's gonna turn on us this weekend for a little bit, but you'll be back. Dave Fraser said it was.

Speaker 5

It will probably be really nice on opening day, like mid sixties, which for me, that's glorious, right And I.

Speaker 4

Always tell people if you're coming down for that.

Speaker 5

Just kind of caddy corner from McGregor Square is the dairy Block And within the dairy Block there is an alleyway. And it sounds so stupid to say it's the coolest alleyway in Denver and you should go visit it, But it's the coolest alleyway in Denver, and you should go visit it.

Speaker 4

What else is in there besides you guys.

Speaker 9

We've got breweries, wineries and distilleries, so Deviation Distilling westbound and down. They've got a tap room down there, the milk market, a Pocolola, seven Grand, Loto Bakery. They're doing a remodel right now' gonna have litt Cofee shop in there as well.

Speaker 4

It's just a fun little spot right there.

Speaker 5

It is so cool and on opening day there's always good traffic and stuff like that. But we're not here to talk about opening Day. We're here to talk about the next Colorado Wine Walk. Let's talk about that. What are you guys doing.

Speaker 9

No, we'll call it opening day for wine first festivals of the season. April thirteenth, Colorado Wine Walk. We're doing our seventh Wine Walk down there in the Dairy Block alleyway.

Speaker 4

No, how did this.

Speaker 5

Obviously you're a winery and we've talked to you before about how you and your brother sort of joined forces after you both became interested in wine separately after military careers to create Blanchard Family Wines. How is your we've talked about you guys started in California. Now you are really focusing like a laser on those Colorado wines that are being made here.

Speaker 6

Yeah.

Speaker 9

When we came here, we were at California Winery. That's what we drink, that's what we sold, that's what we made. But once we learned about the Colorado wine industry and opened our eyes to what's going on here in the state, that was really became our new mission. And that part of the purpose of the Colorado Wine Walk is to really promote the top end, the best wineries, the best wines that the state has to offer, and showcase them off to the front Range.

Speaker 4

Now, how many wineries are going to be at the Wine Walk on April thirteenth. We have twelve wineries.

Speaker 9

We keep it small one because the dairy Block Alleyway is a confined space. It's an intimate, fun environment where we get to really engage with the guests. We also want to keep it at the top level of Colorado wineries. We want wineries of the year, wines of the year, those wineries that are really pushing the frontier quality in our state.

Speaker 5

And there are some incredible wines in the wine Yogi comes on and we talk about a lot of these wines. Can people come down and actually buy wines in addition to doing the wine Walk?

Speaker 9

Yes, that's a big factor of This is a purchasing event. So come down, get your ticket, drink all the wines, talk to the winemakers. But the best way to support your small, family owned wineries in the state and the entire local industry is to buy those products.

Speaker 5

And some of these products don't have distribution on the front Range. That is always a problem. Because Crystal travels all over the state and brings them back and sometimes you can't even buy them on the front range. Do you have some of those purveyors coming.

Speaker 9

We do, certainly we have some of the big guys as well that the carboys and cal Terraces that do distribute, that you can find in your local liquor stores and grocery stores. But a lot of these wineries Leneu du Bois, asp and Peete, those type of things, they're small. Again, they're all family owned and they don't distribute, and you got to get to get to their taste room out in Palisade, cedar Ridge Intros, you know, out off the beaten Path, or come to the Wine.

Speaker 4

Walk, and I know that most of them have wine clubs. Now, you guys have a wine club, don't you?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 1

What is that?

Speaker 4

Tell me what the wine club is and how those work.

Speaker 9

Wine clubs are great because if you find a producer you really love and you want to keep trying, like keep drinking their products, but again you can't travel there as frequently they're not in the grocery stores. Joining a club is a great way to get those wines at

discounted prices. Different clubs could be monthly quarterly, semi annually, just kind of depends on how their structured ours is quarterly, so you can always find a level that works for you and get those wines delivered or ship to you or pick them up your local wineries.

Speaker 5

Do people have the time to stand and talk to the winemakers or the wine makers, the actual ones pouring, Yes, and.

Speaker 9

That's important to us a lot of the big festivals. It's great to go to a festival with four or five six thousand people at it, but when you got one hundred people in.

Speaker 4

Line, yeah, you don't really get to talk. Frustrated.

Speaker 9

So we've looked at our numbers and we try to keep the guest to winery ratio at a pretty reasonable number, about thirty five to one or so, so you can get in those lines, you're not waiting thirty minutes to try the wines, and you get to talk to the winemakers, the owners and those.

Speaker 4

Kinds of things.

Speaker 5

So the tickets are fifty bucks and I only say that because the VIP tickets I looked at we're sold out or where gone is of today yees yah. So and we try to get James in early enough that there are still tickets left, but this will sell out.

Speaker 4

They sell out every time it will.

Speaker 9

It's been fantastic, you know, those first few years we put on the festival. We're always nervous if people are going to like our product. But we have a waiting list of wineries to get in. We have a waiting list of people to get in. Our seminar our wine and Chocolate pairing and Seminar in the Middle is already sold out, and our VIP tickets for a morning and afternoon.

Speaker 4

Are sold out.

Speaker 9

In the chocolate pairing because I love that the chocolate Therapist in Little Too providing the chocolate s It's fantastic. We love they're working with her for years. But I will be the one actually leading the seminar.

Speaker 5

Oh very nice, because I've done her wine tasting that she does in the shop there at the Chocolate Therapist. She's the best advocate for chocolate that I've ever met my entire life.

Speaker 4

And just a dynamite woman to boot. So what do you get with that fifty dollars ticket because that's all that's left. Yeah, it is all the general mission tickets. We have two sessions.

Speaker 9

One will be at eleven am to two pm and then a second session from three to six.

Speaker 2

We split it up.

Speaker 9

That way give our wineries a break as well. Is that way we can get more people in. You'll get your glass, get to wander around the alleyway, try all the different wines from the twelve wineries.

Speaker 4

They'll be live music throughout the day.

Speaker 9

We'll have Shirt Kitchen doing some amazing catering as well, so I have a lot of great food options and then of course you're purchasing options as well.

Speaker 4

So there's no dinner this year. Someone of the text line asks no dinner. It was that just too much.

Speaker 9

Well, I'm glad they're asking, which means they remembered from last year. Yes, every year it is a little bit different, and we have to look at the bandwidth of myself and my staff additionally, and what we can pull off. And the wine dinner's fantast We love doing it. Last couple of years, it's a lot of work. Yeah, so we chose this year to go no dinner, but do the wine and chocolate seminar instead.

Speaker 4

And I trust me. First of all, you want you want the chocolate therapist chocolate, and that's the chocolate that I drive from my home all the way across.

Speaker 5

To Littleton just to buy Julie's chocolate because it's my favorite. I want to ask about the wines you brought in, because you brought two of Blanchard family wines in for the spring.

Speaker 4

So you said this is like the kickoff for the wine season as well. Explain that a little bit.

Speaker 9

It is. I think we're one of the first wine festivals of the season. As we get into you know, May, June, July, August, that's one of the most of the festivals are. We run our festival in April and September. We want to kind of bracket the main festival season. You know, we love doing those festivals in July when it's one hundred degrees out and you're in the middle of the field somewhere and you're you're drinking red wine and it's so hot. But for us, you know, the April and September a

great dates for us can bracket that hot weather. And so this being the first one of the season, we've got some sweet rose, We've got our reasoning Chardonnay's will be a lot of those brighter, fresh rosees and whites to kind of kick off the season.

Speaker 4

Because rose is the wine of summer. Well, it's rose all day, any day, all the time. You've been reading T shirts at Target. But haven't you change as the weather's changing. It's the season for it.

Speaker 5

Well, and you know, one thing I would say, and somebody just texted in love the Dairy Block.

Speaker 4

We've stayed at the Maven there. It's awesome.

Speaker 5

This is one of those little kind of self contained places in Denver and I love telling people to go down there after before.

Speaker 4

A baseball game because it's so close.

Speaker 5

But you're still, you know, in an area that you don't necessarily have to deal with urban outdoorsmen or other such inconveniences.

Speaker 9

I agree, and I know I we're well aware that there's a lot of you know, bad publicity, a bad feeling about downtown. As the sixteenth Street mall is reopening, we'll see what that does for for Loto. But as you mentioned, it's an alleyway and that sounds negative, but it's not fantastic. And the great thing about the Dairy Block is once you're inside the four walls of that environment there, it feels like you're in another world. It feels like you're transported to some European city where all

the businesses opening it. But the alleyway, there's music, there's art. We have twenty four hour security out there. It's a very safe We have parking garage on site, so you never even have to leave the dairy block from parking through your experience all the way out. It's a great say.

Speaker 5

You have so many different options within the dairy block where you can eat. You can get a little bite, you could have a real meal, you could just have a glass of wine and some popcorn because James has popcorn. It pairs very well with the wines at Blantern Family Wines is one of the things that I love about it. James, what has changed for Blanchard Family Wines in terms of

your vision since you started this? And I want to ask you this as a businessman, right, I want to ask you, like, what you thought this was going to be, what it has turned out to be, and what you want it to be now?

Speaker 4

Has that changed? That's a good question. I haven't been asked that one, I think.

Speaker 9

Ever, We're still we still make California wine out in Heelsburg, California. It's no mom My brother Mark still Bruns at operation. So that still is in our mind of California and the quality that comes along with that. But our Colorado focus and exposing the Front Range, particularly to the wines

of Colorado is really important to us. So not only through the Colorado Wine Walk, which we do both in the Dairy Block we did in Fort Collins last year until we close that location, hopefully take it to Grand Junction next year as well, but we're also doing a Colorado Wine Walk at home and a Colorado Wine Walk on tour. We're going to start doing tours out to the Western Slope and that's fantastic.

Speaker 4

Say so many people that.

Speaker 9

Come down to the Dairy Block, whether it be for the festival or just come down to our taste room and say, oh, I know you have a wine country, but I've never been there.

Speaker 4

It's too far away. I don't know where to go. I don't know how to make that trip.

Speaker 9

Well, we're going to create a little tour company to help take people out to the Western Slope and show them the best wineries and do wine dinners and tastings and all these activities. So we're really expanding that aspect of the business of exposing Colorado to Colorado wine through experience.

Speaker 4

Wine tourism is huge. It is massive in California.

Speaker 5

I would venture a guest that without the wine tourism that has been developed over the many years in California, a lot of small wineries there would never make it. They would never make it if there weren't bus loads of bridesmaids coming and doing wine tastings and buying a case whatever they just tasted. I think it's incredibly undervalued in Colorado. And as someone who loves to travel, and I do when I go places other places, I do these kind of tours.

Speaker 4

Right I'm getting on somebody else's bus. I've talked to friends.

Speaker 5

About this very thing, about the opportunity that exists there to tap into a culture that's already established, but just bring that culture to Colorado, and I think it would be huge for Palisades and the Western Slope and areas that could use more, you know, economic development. And this is a great idea. So when do you think you're going to launch that.

Speaker 9

We're hoping to do our first one near the end of May, so I'll let you know, get you on the bus tour and gets you out to Palisa with you.

Speaker 4

Generally speaking, I don't do bus tours anymore. Because you know, people know me and I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. No, I think that's fantastic. Good for you.

Speaker 5

So James Blanchard is my guest from Blanchard Family Wine. So the Colorado Winewalk is coming up on April thirteen. Two sessions, one at eleven.

Speaker 4

Am, one at QWO pm, and then we also have the three pm to six pm, so they're about three hours.

Speaker 9

Correct eleven o'clock and three o'clock the two start times. Tickets are at Coloradowinewalk dot com.

Speaker 4

Okay, Colorado Winewalk dot com. One more question for you, and I asked you this.

Speaker 5

You're talking about expanding into doing things that are almost non they're wine adjacent but not wine directly related. What other opportunities do you see in Colorado that you're not tapping into because you're focused on your mission when it comes to being wine adjacent.

Speaker 9

This is something that probably isn't well, this isn't public yet, so I don't know what we're talking about what we can't talk about. But the centennial celebration is coming up for here in Colorado and the state is really helping to push the agricultural industry in our states, So we are creating a wine. The Colorado Association of Aticulture and Analogy is creating a wine to represent the state for

the centennial celebration and then to move on forward. So we've been spending a lot of time as an organization determining the varietals, the blends, how we want to judge this. But we're going to create again a wine that's going to represent the state both for the centennial celebration as into the future.

Speaker 4

So there's a lot of fun things. Is the way we can kind of promote our industry.

Speaker 5

You just gave me a vision of a bunch of wine nerds, like sitting around with wine glasses in their hands, yelling.

Speaker 4

At each other about varietals. I don't know why. I mean, I'm sure it's more more civilized than that. It's not. It's taken us almost a year just come over with the name of the product. Well, let me throw one more out at you. I mean, we've got that going for us, but it just my last question just went right out of my head. But that's okay, James. When you got into this.

Speaker 5

And I'm asking this because I'm trying to pick the brains of people who are in interesting businesses, right, and you're in an interesting business. So when you look at the landscape now and you see a lot of people, and we were kind of talking about this off the air, we have a lot of people who are kind of doing these little strip mall wineries where they're buying grapes and they're making wine.

Speaker 4

Some of it's very very bad, some of it's good. You know, how do you feel about that?

Speaker 5

Part of you get to reach peak wine making, likely reached peak craft brewing, because I do believe we have passed peak craft brewing in Colorado.

Speaker 9

Yes, and I think not only in brewing, but in distilling and wine making as well. Across the board for better worse, alcohol sales are down across this country.

Speaker 4

I blame the youth. Well it is why I'm not blaming the youth, but it is the youth.

Speaker 9

They are more health conscious, they are more focused on sober activities, and they're drinking less.

Speaker 4

So from our.

Speaker 9

Perspective, you counter that by creating better products and better experiences. If you are going to drink less, less frequently, less volume, then you should be drinking better quality and having better

experiences when you are drinking. So as opposed to going binge drinking at the bar on a Saturday night, come to a wine education class or a wine and food pairing and class, or again beer education, spirit education, learn more about your products, educate yourself on what you're drinking, and again, more better experiences and better quality as opposed to more volume.

Speaker 4

Well, I do think that there's a positive there.

Speaker 5

Right, It's like, Okay, are you going to go out and do your shots of school vodka or are you going to go out and have a lovely cocktail, Which just backs up what I've been saying since I was in my twenties, Life's too short for cheap alcohol, right. It really is having a really nice cocktail with your dinner. It can be a great experience. Having a great glass of wine with your dinner can be a great experience. And I hope the young people understand that it's not

drinking to get black out drunk. It's to enhance whatever other experience you're having as well.

Speaker 4

Agree, but I would twist that a little bit.

Speaker 9

As opposed to saying life too short for drinking cheap alcohol, just say bad alcohol. Okay, we're all aware of the economy today. We can't always drink expensive alcohol, but you can have good product that doesn't have to break the bank.

Speaker 4

So it is life is too short for bad alcohol.

Speaker 5

Well, I'll tell you a little story, a little bit about myself and my husband. When we got married, we were doing it all the cheap. We were just like, we're going to spend as little money as possible. And I walked into a mass wine store, just a giant wine store, and a man walked up to me and he said, can I help you find wine from any particular region. I said, I would like to have wine from the five.

Speaker 4

To ten dollar region, and I'm going to have to buy a a lot of it for my weddings, so I need a red and a white. Hook me up.

Speaker 5

He did a wine tasting for us of bottles that started from three ninety nine. The most expensive one was eight ninety nine, so that was a high dollar and we actually found two inexpensive wines that our WINESNOP friends were like, great wine.

Speaker 4

Of course we didn't show them the bottle, right, we just wourn the wine. So to your point, they definitely.

Speaker 9

Have some options, a lot of great wines at different price points. I think the key is to find out what those ingredients are that we don't want added colors and flavors and all these chemicals that some of the mass produced wineries add. You know, stay local, stay small, stay craft.

Speaker 4

Are you guys organic? Somebody just asked on the text lines. Great question.

Speaker 9

All the vineyards and Sonoma and most all the vineyards in Colorado are grown organically, so they are farmed organic.

Speaker 4

Once you hit the winery.

Speaker 9

It's really hard to stay organic without adding sul fights or any preservative. So we as a production company are not organic, but as a grower, congrins we purchase are organic.

Speaker 5

It's also do you know if the growing operations are certified organic? Because that process is a freaking nightmare.

Speaker 4

It is, and some of them are, particularly in California.

Speaker 9

For all the vineyards out there, it's about ninety nine percent certified organic in Sonoma right now.

Speaker 4

In Colorado's well on its way.

Speaker 5

It takes years to get like a certification that you are in organic form. It's it's a very very long process. James, do you want to stick around and play our dumb game.

Speaker 4

Of the day. I always lose this game, but let's do it.

Speaker 5

That's okay because I expect everyone to lose except me, and even then I still lose. On occasion, Grant has become a rod because a rod turned into a pumpkin.

Speaker 4

So Grant, what wait a minute, you try this? And now it's time for my most exciting segment all the radio of its kind?

Speaker 1

Is it?

Speaker 4

Grant in the world of that day? All right? What is our dad joke of the day?

Speaker 2

Dad joke of the day.

Speaker 4

If you don't like it, play a rod?

Speaker 8

I asked my wife if I'm the only one she has ever been with? If she said yes, all the others were nines and tens.

Speaker 5

Okay, that's when I heard that one before. All right, what is our word of today, please, grant.

Speaker 4

Word of the day today?

Speaker 2

It is escape.

Speaker 4

It's a noun escape I n sc ape, n sc a.

Speaker 5

So if escape is to break out of something, I'm going to say escape is to break.

Speaker 8

Into something good, guess, but not quite. But it does involve the inner of something.

Speaker 4

Okay, James, you want to take a shot. I like your gate, your guest, But to how about to to fall inside your own mind?

Speaker 1

Oh?

Speaker 4

Oh, go in the deep things philosophical?

Speaker 2

Here?

Speaker 8

No, it is the unique essence or inner nature of a thing. Oh, okay, the escape of your mind.

Speaker 4

You can escape to you were closer technically, all right.

Speaker 5

Who is the Lay's brand of potato chips named for. I mean it's got to be whoever like Larry Lay's, Larry Lay's Bob Laise I have no idea. Well, yeah, company founder Herman wladan snack empire by selling chips out of the back of his car in the early nineteen thirties.

Speaker 4

Get Herman exactly. I mean I remember him selling chips his brother Harold. Yeah, hey, everybody, I got chips in the back of my copy. So how it all got started? Right there? How do you feel about the Layze potato chips? What's your potato chip of choice? Middle chip of choice? Kringles. I like a kettle cooked. I like the kettle chips from Costco Big Bag. They are so good.

Speaker 8

We'll buy a you know, since you guys are talking wine, she'll buy a really nice bottle of wine and we'll pair it with Lay's original potato chips.

Speaker 4

You know what, A congsalted the wine horse perfectly?

Speaker 6

All right.

Speaker 4

What's our jeopardy category? Please?

Speaker 8

Well, speaking of building empires, the company's animal mascot, I will describe the mascot.

Speaker 4

You tell me which company good or you know something related to that?

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 8

Introduced in nineteen sixty one, Arley was this type of fish.

Speaker 4

What is chicken of the sea? Incorrect? Let me finish the question.

Speaker 8

Shoot fish who bizarrely wanted to end up as product for star Kiss.

Speaker 4

Correctang it?

Speaker 2

What is tuna?

Speaker 4

But James? Yes, you got the James, say your name and then what is it? That's good? It's your first time. We got a point.

Speaker 8

Next one wearing flip flops and sunglasses. This drum pounding mascot began going, going, and going and going in nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 4

Manny, what is Chester Cheeto? Incorrect? Hang it anything, James, You're so stupid. You are so stupid. I can't even believe I just did that. I know what it is. It's the energizer bunny. Correct but incorrect. You still wrong.

Speaker 8

At nineteen ninety seven New York Times headline about a mascot change, read.

Speaker 4

Joe this a giant and tobacco marketing man, what is the Jolly Green Giant? In correct? Joe this a tobacco marketing is dead? At age twenty Thames, what is Joe Campbell? Correct? James. That's two for James, and I'm minus three.

Speaker 5

I'm birthday in the trail and James. The sad part is I'm not even letting you win. I'm just bad at this today.

Speaker 8

Next one, last name of the tennis player? Oh, scene here, can't do that. The crocodile logo on his coat would become a fashion icon, Mandy, what's i OD incorrect?

Speaker 4

James? What is Lacasse correct? It's the same company saying it. James, you won if you can get to four minus four? Yeah, company's logo.

Speaker 8

Two bovines run directly at each other, perhaps energized by the product they represent.

Speaker 4

James, what is red Bull correct?

Speaker 3

Right?

Speaker 8

Yes?

Speaker 4

Four to minus four?

Speaker 5

This is the worst butt kicking of my entire lifetime in this game.

Speaker 4

I've worked with you for a lot of year. It's an eight point swing. I already crumpled it up, James, because I never want to see it. Christahl kicked out, but last time I was here, so I'm glad he's not here.

Speaker 5

You're doing great anyway, James. Blanch Or Blancher Family Wines. Get your wine Walk tickets before they sell out. Thanks for coming in today, James, Thank you many we'll be back KOA Sports Live from Sam three at Glendale and you can sit and watch the games with the boys.

Speaker 4

Because basketball is coming.

Speaker 5

Up tonight as we enter the Sweet sixteen. Go check them out, have one of those giant burritos for me, and in the meantime, keep it on KOA

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