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We welcome, Welcome to the what day is it? Aaron? Is it Thursday? Alreadyday? Thursday edition of the show. I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell. I don't know what day it is, but I got stuff planned anyway. Anthony Rodriguez is my producer and right hand and blower of the airhorn. That's what that is as well all through the day as we hand it off to KOA Sports in just a few minutes, well also a lot of minutes get it together. I know, like

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Bracket this year either. I've been I was so busy yesterday, got home yesterday, came and did the show, went then and worked on my super secret side hustle that you would know about if you followed me on Facebook, Mandy Connell. And then I didn't get home last night till like seven. It was a long day and I woke up this morning. I'm I'm a springer round of better. You know. I wake up the alarm goes off my eyes are open, my feet hit the floor. I stand up.

I'm ready to party.

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Really am that way. I am that way naturally. I am an early bird. I am an early riser. I am a wake up quicker. And this morning the alarm went off and I was like, so together, we'll get through this show. But I think we can do it. It's a Thursday, one more day till the weekend.

Got that going for.

Us, why don't we jump in and do the blog. You know there's a rod you have to Okay, I'm not even gonna tell him tell me to remind me to do this, because it'll remind me right now and not when I actually need him to remind me to do it, which is when we referenced. When I referenced could up, No.

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Today on the blog welcome it's this spring. There's actually a bill reducing penalties for attempted murder. Richard Oltar fluants to be GOP chairman. Johnston and Polis are responsible for gang activity. Three Peblo police officers are hospitalized because of Democratic policies. March Madness kicks off today at Ballerina Denver is going to spend fifteen million for bad ideas for paying a boulevard. Aurora's sales taxes mirror the economy. Brave

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You get to that story at the bottom of the blog on purpose. See what I did there? See what I did?

Put it at the bottom. No, really, you should go to the top of the blog first, and then number two.

All right, yeah, yep, yep, that's thing hanging fruit.

Come on, Yeah.

I got a couple of guests on the show today. We have, first of all, Representative Jarvis Caldwell. Who I think, Ayron, don't you think the name Jarvis Caldwell. It sounds like the alter ego of a superhero, rights you know, from Ironman, But Jarvis Caldwell sounds like the unassuming alter eco.

Yes exactly, mister Caldwell.

Yes, kind of, but also a secret agent. It's a butler who pretends to be a butler, but that's just his cover id. He's actually a superhero.

James Bond, but cooler, Yeah, exactly, and more helpful.

Way more helpful, very much more helpful.

In any case, Jeeves. Representative Jervis Caldwell is coming on the show today. He tweeted this out yesterday and I saw it and I thought, surely I can't be seeing what I think I'm seeing. And then I said to myself, don't call me surely, but you know, we have suffered in Colorado incredibly bad repercussions for criminal justice reform that has happened under the Democrats since they took complete power. We we became the number one country, number one seat

And it's almost like when you.

Decriminalize criminal crime, criminals are attracted here. Criminal syndicates have set up shoplifting rings, they have set up car theft rings. Drug dealers carry below one gram of fentanyl now because they know that anything more than that is going to be a felony, but they can still carry one and have it just be a ticket. I mean, these policies have been an abject failure. They've been an unmitigated disaster.

I don't I genuinely am confused.

I don't understand why only people in the center right. Maybe people in the center left can see it too. I'm going to give you guys credit for having some sense about you on this matter, But how can you look at what we've done in Colorado in terms of quote criminal justice reform and look at the end result and not recognize that there's probably a connection there. Now, I know correlation does not equal causation. I understand that,

Of those people.

I've actually been called a bleeding heart liberal because I support prison programs that truly work to offer rehabilitation to prisoners who earn the right to participate in such programs.

And let me explain, I am.

An enthusiastic supporter of programs that reward good behavior in prisons by allowing prisoners to tap into resources to do things like graduate from high school, get post secondary training for a trade, or even get college credit. Because I believe, after you've served your time time that is given to you by the justice system, you deserve a second chance.

The criminal justice system is.

I don't understand the democratic obsession with helping criminals. And I say this again as a person who says, look, we should offer people the opportunity to be rehabilitated. We should offer people who go to jail for drug crimes the opportunity to get significant drug treatment while they are in prison. Not just hey you're clean now, but no, do the kind of therapies and stuff they do in the programs that I support at step Denver or the

He was on that committee. It was in committee.

Yesterday, and maybe if they had killed it, I might have canceled the interview.

But do you really think they killed it?

No, they did not. We'll talk to him about that at twelve thirty and then.

At one o'clock.

The election for the next chair of the Colorado GOP is coming up. I believe it's a week from Saturday, and I've got Richard Holtor. Richard is a longtime politician. He ran he ran for governor. Excuse me, no, no, no, he ran for the fourth congressional race in that very crowded field, and now he wants to be chairman of the GOP. He is running on a slate with two other people, one of whom is daniel Neuschwanger, who was a Republican before she did something that I think blew

On this show, and I like Natalie. She's very passionate.

And Natalie said, look, I had conversations with Danielle Neuschwanger in the early part of the year about she wanted to support Bretta Horn and her strategies for supporting Bretta Horn, and Natalie her arm out and welcome the support because Natalie's not working on Britta's campaign for Chairmen of the GOP, but she is supporting her and it was very Natalie said she felt like she was a little bit being used to get to Britta because she thought Danielle wanted

I don't understand that they're.

Going to be on it one. Richard's got some really really good idea laid out in his plan to bring the Republican Party back together. I've gotten a lot of email about Danielle being on the ticket though, I'm and it'd be perfectly honest, perfectly honest. So we're gonna talk about all that stuff at one o'clock. So we're going to talk about what their plans are and the slate business, and you know, some grassroots who don't have a lot of faith in danielle sincerity, So we're gonna ask.

Her about that at one o'clock. So that's all coming up then.

Now, I got a lot of stuff on the blog today. You know, we were just talking about crime in Colorado when I talk about this just for a second, if you didn't hear the story out of Pueblo about the three police officers being shot. It happened because three police officers went to pick a suspect up who was accused of attempted murder or murder. Let me check this out. He was accused attempted murder. So they go to pick up this guy. He has a rap sheet a mile long.

Wounded, blah blah blah. So every once in a while.

Chuck will touch his back and go what is that? What is that? And every once in a while he'll scratch his back and a piece of shrapnel will have worked its way out. He got shot in nineteen ninety three, and it's still happening, although it hasn't happened in a while. But I mean, alternately, that's like the coolest story because the human body is amazing. It knows that that shrapnel is not supposed to be in there, and it just worked for all this time to just push it out.

Yay.

Joining me now to talk about the latest bit of idiocy is Representative Jarvis Caldwell.

First of all, welcome to the show.

Hey many thanks so much for having me.

So first of all, you have a name that sounds like you're the alter ego of some kind of superhero. So I'm just going to ask you this, what superpower would you like if you became a superhero?

Probably being able to stay awake on Judiciary long because it gets pretty well and we were up there until I think one am this morning having the debate the bill we're about to talk about.

Well, okay, this bill, when I saw it yesterday, I thought, surely he's exaggerating or something in his in his tweet, But you were not tell people what this bill that three.

Democrats have sponsored is trying to do.

Yes, So this is House Bill twelve o six. It's called extreme indifference offenses not causing death. So there's a lot of nuance around this law and that's what the discussion was yesterday. Let me just give you a quick example. You do a drive by shooting. You shoot at a crowd of people, but you don't hit anybody. Right now, that's a class to seleny with some pretty severe punishments. What the Democrats and how judicially want to do is they want to lower that down as low as a

So let me ask you this. You were there till one o'clock last night, and according to something I saw this morning, a bunch of das showed up to argue against this bill. What what are these three Democrats using as their justification for this bill. Why do they think it's needed.

Well, they're just saying that it's too big of a blanket right now, so that you know, they're saying there's a difference between if you hit somebody in the leg or if you miss them, and the DA's are basically they're saying, well, you know the common scene from the das, and it was bipartisan DA's. We had DA Walsh from Denver, we had my district attorney, Michael Allen from the fourth Judicial down in El Paso County, and every single DA admitted like, look, there is maybe area here where we

But let me, okay, let me ask this question more clearly, And this question is why are we supposed to care if someone randomly fired a weapon into a crowd of people, ostensibly potentially hitting them all, but just because they're a bad shot. I'm now supposed to what feel sympathy for someone who made that choice because I don't. And is that what they're saying, like, Oh, we should worry about these people to indiscriminately fire a gun into a crowd

Yeah, No, your take on it is exactly my take on it. So the first question I asked the bill sponsors when they propost the bill at the beginning of the evening, I said, why this? Why now? Colorado is number eighth nationally and violent crime were the number three most dangerous state right now, So why this and why now?

So what is the party breakdown on the Jujuiciary Committee. I know you guys are hopelessly outnumbered in the House, but how bad is it on Judiciary?

Yeah, it's seven Democrats and four Republicans right now. So in order to kill a bill or to pass the bill, you need to flip two Democrats. And there's I want to highlight. We passed one bill so far this session that actually enforces stricter penalties, and that's for firearms theft, because the current law says, if he's still a firearm under two thousand dollars, it's a misdemeanor. It has to be two thousand dollars or more, which is kind of rich.

I didn't talk about it because I had it on the blog. It was just one of those things that I didn't get to on the show because it didn't pass.

Or right, you can get probation right now in Colorado for raping a child, and actually seventy percent of these child sex crimes ends with probation, and we're trying to say no, you can't get probation. There needs to be a minimum, and that bill couldn't even.

Pass, especially because that particular crime. Sex crimes have a higher rate of recidivism usually it's not a one off. That's horrifying to me. I mean absolutely horrifying exactly.

And you know, if you get probation for a child sex crime, you're not getting that help that you're supposed to be getting to try to make sure you don't for a set of eate, which, like you said, is a very high crime. I mean, I'm pretty hardcore on this issue. I almost basically think you shouldn't see the light of day if you do this. But I definitely don't think you should be probate for committing such an act.

So let me ask you this, are there any democrats on the judiciary that are flippable that maybe I have listeners in their districts that could get on the phone and say please don't do this, you know, because a lot of Republicans think if they call their Democratic representative or state senator, they're not going to be responsive. But I'm telling you right now, you get enough people to call any legislator, it has an impact. It really does.

Were you know, what are we doing here?

Yeah?

So the one that we were able to flip to the gun bill, actually there's two. One of them was Representative Chad Clifford, and Chad is House District thirty seven. He's a Rapahoe County. And the other one we were able to flip was Representative Cecilia at the NOSA. So she's district for she's Denver. She is the one who beat Tim hernandez Oh in the primary.

There's already a hero for that, right.

Yeah.

And but again, like I ran a bill that said no pr bonds for repeat violent offenders, and she voted against that bill. She voted against the child rape the prohibition on child rate bill. So you know, I'm not very confident.

You know what, though, Here's the thing. If we don't try, we don't know. And if I have I'm going to do. What I'll do is I'll find out the contact information for both of their offices and I'll urge people. I'll urge people to go ahead and give them a call and respectfully say, please don't pass this bill. We're tired of making crime easier in Colorado.

We'd like it to stop.

And if you guys call and make a respectful argument, Respectful is the key here, because if you're an a hole, they will just ignore you. You can make a difference. I tell people this all the time. You don't believe me, but we have to put pressure on somebody because we've got to stop this nonsensical belief that some if we just give them another chance, they're gonna make a better choice next time, when there's no evidence that any of this is actually having that impact.

Yeah, no, you're exactly right. I mean, the recidivism rate for violent crimes, and especially these telitext crimes is extremely high, and we're just we're just letting people go and and they're not getting any kind of help or rehabilitation and we're just basically just hoping they get sixed. I mean, I'm sure you've probably talked about what happened in Pueblo.

Yeah, we talked about that just a minute ago.

Yeah, and you know, this guy was out on three selony bonds and had fourteen prior selonies, and it's like, you know, that guy wasn't rehabilitated. What the hell was he to excuse my language, but what was he doing walking around the shot?

Right?

Yeah, in the world did he get a gun? Because we all know felons aren't allowed to have guns. And look what happened. Three of our officers got injured. But in that situation, had had that person shot at those officers and not hit them qualify for probation. That's how ridiculous House Bill twelve oh six is that they're trying to pass.

Representative Jarvis K. Caldwell keep fighting the good fight. When's the next hearing?

So this this bill got laid over. I think they realized that they may the bill may die in committee because we may have split those two Democrats that I mentioned earlier, So they laid it over for action at a later date. But we don't know that date yet. So this bill will be hurt again and we'll see what happens. I'll make sure I keep you in the loop on that.

Okay, Representative Caldwell, I want you to offer an amendment. I want you to offer a passive, aggressive amendment, and I want you to make it an amendment to the Second Time Shooter Bill. That's what one of my text messagers called it, the second Chance Shooter Bill, and this one as as an amendment, please offer that if someone is given probation, they have to take a gun safety course so they can more carefully handle their firearm in the future, just like they're trying to do with SB three.

If you could do that, I would be forever appreciative.

Well, that's perfect for me to plug. The D three is coming to the Florida tomorrow and we're going to fight that thing all the way. So if your listeners want to tune in, SB three's on the Health floor tomorrow, and I make that argument all the time. There's no mixus between a gun safety class and gun violence. Yep. Right, people are gonna they're not planning to go shoot up a public place, and then they took a gun safety

Representative Caldbell gotta let you go. I'm late for a break. Good to talk to you, man. I hope we can talk again in the future. Very interesting responses from some of that conversation I just had with Representative Jarvis, including this one. Mandy. Not to be a Debbie downer, but this has been the trend in Colorado for years, and yet every election cycle the Democrats gained more and more

Do you own a house?

Are you trying to buy a house? Are you trying to buy eggs? Are you worried about going downtown something maybe you used to love doing but now you feel it's too dangerous. Maybe you live downtown and you don't like to walk your dog anymore because you have to deal with urban outdoorsmen clearly jacked up on drugs. We're

Rates in the country.

We are no longer the utopia of hope and dreams that young people came to seek when they came to Denver. Colorado specifically, but I fear that the Republican Party is going to get bogged down in social issues that in Colorado are absolute losers for the pro life people out there. First of all, I feel you, I understand your passion, and I believe that your mission is important. That in Colorado, trying to outlaw abortion is ridiculous. You will never get

That has been on the ballot.

They've all gotten creamed, absolutely creamed. So we got to stop talking about social issues. We've got to stop talking about the things that we think are incredibly important, like parental choice and parental rights. We've got to keep it on security and the economy. Security and the economy. That should be the drum beat over and over and over again.

Then what are we? You're on a lie I did.

That's what you are. You're a permanent majority or minority party and Colorado, frankly, we can't afford it. Coming up next, Richard Holdtorf wants to be the next GOP chair. We're going to talk to him and Daniel Neuschwanger after this.

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Welcome, Local, Welcome to the second hour of the show. I've got a quick question before we bring our next guests on, and that is something just occurred to me. It's Thursday. Do all of these school districts go on spring break tomorrow? So are they just extending their spring break with this rally today? That just occurred to me today right now. If anybody can answer that, you can text me at five, six, six nine.

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Now, we've spent a lot of time talking about something I normally don't even butt my nose into and that is the race to see who is going to be the next Colorado chairman of the GOP. I believe the party is in absolute shambles right now, and without a significant change in leadership, we're going to be dead in the water in Colorado. And I don't just mean Republicans, I mean the state. There's going to be nothing left. So joining me now is another candidate. Richard Holdtorff joins me.

So that is exactly what happens. Mandy Dave Williams, and.

He said, we're going to start with the chair elections on the twenty ninth, then we'll go to vice chair.

Then we'll go to Secretary. You know, in politics, a lot of times.

You make allegiances, alliances and you try to build people that.

Can work to help rebuild our party.

Well, one of my thoughts, Mandy, is if you want all these unaffiliated people that have left the Republican Party to come back, why not have a person that has taken that journey. Danielle has left the party, she was very frustrated. Now she's come back to the party and she has to take And Danielle can speak for herself, and I certainly will welcome that she's got to take

I see that this ship is sinking.

If we don't figure get this ship upright and pointed in the right direction, it will be just like the Titanic. The relevance of Colorado Republicans will end, and we will be waltpaper in the political landscape here in Colorado.

You're absolutely right, Mandy.

Well, and I want to go to Danielle and just ask a few direct questions because Danielle, you and I first met when you were running for governor, and I was very impressed with you, and I think you're very, very intelligent. And when you chose to leave the Republican Party and go be the governor's candidate for the Constitution Party, I expressed to you that I thought that was a terrible mistake because I was afraid it was going to impact your political future, which I thought could be very,

See, it's exactly what Richard said.

You know, there was a lot of frustrations, and I'm at a point now where I really don't feel like it's appropriate to continue to air out the dirty laundry of the Republican Party. We've had so much of that in the last year that we just don't need any more ammunition to fight each other. So I'm just going to put it all on me that I made a

And so I'm grateful for them.

And I think that there's a lot of people in our party who have left the party for the same frustrations. They've seen what's gone on in the last two years and can speak to those frustrations as candidates. But you know, they're ready to come back, They're ready to fight. They just need someone to invite them and welcome them back, and I think Richard did a great.

Job of that well. Last night, Natalie Tennant, who has created a group called Surrender Never Surrendered Excuse Me, she posted a pretty decent Facebook video explaining that you and she had had conversations back in January February, and because she has friends with Britta Horne, who is also running for the chairmanship, that you had expressed that you were going to support Britta, and Natalie just said, look, I just want you to know what happened behind the scenes,

Man? Can I jump in here one second? Yeah, and then I want Danielle to answer the question.

Sure.

But I watched all the mechanics, the gyrations, the political soccer matches that were going on in the spectrum of state party chair candidates. And the reason I got in the race is because I do not see the leadership that Colorado Republicans need.

And I've served in.

Leadership as a State House Republican whip. So I jumped in less than two weeks ago.

I jumped in this race.

And when you have strong leaders in the Republican Party that come in and say I'm putting the pads on and getting on the field, the whole game changes.

Everything changes. And that's what's happened.

And you know, Britta, she's a little disappointed that Holdthworf's in this in this election cycle for state party chair. There's other people because you know they need the Colorado Republicans need the leadership. Now, daniel I'm going to turn it over to you, but you know everything changed last Saturday when I went to welt County and announced my candidacy go ahead.

Yeah, And that's just it. So I had not had any intentions.

Of running for the state party chairmanship until you know, my phone started ringing in January, And in fact, I had had people reach out last summer when everything went down to Dave Williams, and I just didn't feel like it was the right time. I felt like we needed to focus on candidates, and so I had expressed it I would kind of, you know, wait to sit back and see what happened.

And at the time, Darcy and Berta were the only two.

Candidates announced, and I felt before the county rework meet things that Britta actually was the stronger candidate. And I have nothing bad to say about Britta, but like Holdworf, I decided to kind of wait to see what happened with the counties to see who emerge. And I was actually planning on running for chair and then I had a team in place, and one of our team members got an amazing job locker room.

We're so proud of him.

And it turned out that Holdwarf was going to jump in, and as soon as I heard his name, I was like, this is the guy. This is the leader that we need, his military experience, his passion, his experience, and it.

Was like a complete a sense of peace had.

Come over me because I had been so stressed about what was going to happen with the party, you know, feeling that kind of lack of hope for our future. And then as soon as he committed, I was it's just instant resolved, Like I really feel like if Colorado has his leadership, that there is not only hope, but there is going to be victory in our future.

Well, let me ask you both this question, and I'll let both of you feel it, because it speaks to your judgment Richard, that you have decided to endorse by putting Danielle on your slate. Danielle, you're just now coming back in the party after spectacularly leaving the party and burning a whole bunch of bridges. I'm going to be perfectly honest. I got a lot of email from people who do not trust you because of what you did

I mean you could see where that would be a little off putting.

Mandy.

I'm going to lead on this, and it's a very good question when you are wanting to win, and I want Colorado to make Colorado Republicans win again. And we know in Colorado and Republicans play all those attention because this really matters. We know that Colorado is a blue state. It's not turning red anytime soon. That's a political reality.

And you know that, Mandy.

Oh yeah, we know that over fifty to fifty five percent of the electorate are now unaffiliated. They're either soft Democrats, the Republicans that have left the party, or they're somewhere in the middle because they're so disenfranchised and disgusted with all the party politics and all the infighting either on the dem side, which is hyper accelerated now after November, or on the Republican side, which has been going on

You can't pivot farther to the right.

And say, well, if you're not worthy, you know, if you're not as red as I am, you're not worthy of being in my party.

That Yeah, No, we're in total agreement on that one.

Let's talk about winning those unaffiliates that have left our party. Let's talk about asking people to come back. There's over half a million, five hundred to six hundred thousand. Who better to ask that question of them than perhaps somebody that's left the party and has come back. Now, Danielle is a very thoughtful person. She's very intelligent. And I work on a cattle ranch. I'm a general manager of a cattle ranch running thousands.

I had a cattle out here.

I've been breaking horses since I was fifteen, and I'll tell you what, some of the best horses I've ever had are those mustangs that were wild, they were ranked, they would buck hard, and you know what, you had to bring them around. And finally when they came around and they wanted to be part of the team, and they wanted to say, yep, I will work for you and I'll give you everything I got. There's some of the best horses I've ever had on this ranch at Buffalo Springs Ranch, which started.

Oh by the way, in eighteen ninety two. So I see Danielle as one of those papers.

That have all this energy, and she can come back and win those unaffiliateds back and then perhaps when we get that contribution, we can make Colorado Republicans win again.

Daniel why not.

Take a more measured approach in your return to the party.

So again, you know, this goes back to I had no intention of running for this position until members of the SEC had actually reached out to me on numerous occasions. And it took a lot of convincing on their part because for the last two years I have been happily working with like local nonprofits, you know, developing rural sports programs for youth in our community. And I like to do things behind the scene. I don't like to be, you know, out in front. I don't like to have

To get me to even throw my name in the hat.

But what it came down to you and how they got me convinced is I'm a workhorse.

I love the work. I'm dedicated to working.

And when they said, look, Danielle, there's a lot of work that needs to be done and we need someone who doesn't mind having a heavy workload that can give somebody else the reins to lead, and it just kind of worked out where the work is what inspired me, and so I'm just really excited to get in and work with Richard Holtorf and his vision for Colorado and be the person behind the scenes that supports the counties and supports the candidates, because that is the entire mission

Let me get to some of the actual issues, okay, because there's bigger issues than all of this stuff. One of them is do you favor eliminating the Republican primary?

So I'm presuming and I see the screens kind of went away, so I'm presuming I'm still on here.

Yes, And you're.

Asking me that question, Mandy, Yes, go ahead.

Okay, so I am not in favor of canceling the Republican primary.

We need to have Republican primaries.

Some people say, oh, it has to be all through the Assembly, and the people that win in the Assembly then they go on the general ballot.

Well, if you.

Haven't been lately, and I'm the Washington County chair for the Washington County Central.

Committee, that's a job that I have right now. And if you ever go to any of these meetings and you're an.

Outside or just a guest or visitor, or you're a new Republican coming in, you sit there and you watch and you say, boy, this feels very scripted. Boy, this feels like an inside game. Boy, how do I join this team? Because it just doesn't seem like if I'm not in the inner circle, I'm not going to get a fair shake. And that is across the state in many different counties. Not all these counties are like this.

Out going how does these things look.

Through that lens? So we've got to let people participate.

We need to have a primary, and we need.

To let the Republicans decide who they want to run in the general, and that's every Republican, not necessarily the insider baseball or the back door secret handshakes that are made, are some of these other things that party bosses try to flex their muscles and wield their power. If I'm elected as a state party chairman, you those days end. This becomes a pluralistic, opportunistic organization that's going to allow.

Any candidate come forward.

Look when we did pre primary endorsements, when Dave pedaled out by the way, most of his endorsements didn't win, which was sad. So you're betting on the wrong horse, COGP and it's embarrassing.

But if you don't bet.

On the horse and let the people decide who they want, let the people decide, don't put your thumb on the scale.

So I'm absolutely not in favor of these pre primary endorsements.

I want the voters to decide, and I want people to go through assembly and then there's a petition process. Is if anybody knows about me, Mandy, and you do. I ran for CD four and I didn't get the endorsement from Dave.

My opponent did. And I'm a pretty tough guy if you haven't noticed, But you know.

How bad that would make somebody feel when you're like, geez, this is such an inside game that now they're going to try to kick me toside and box me out. And I'm just a Republican trying to do a good thing and be a good Republican and try to make a difference.

In this state. You can't do that to people a candidate, and.

Running a candidate campaign at the state level federal level is so hard. You can't do that to people because it's going to make them say I'm not doing it.

I don't need the headwinds.

I don't need the party to step up and say you're not worthy, you know, and kick me to the curb.

I will not do that, and I think it's unfair Mandy Well.

Richard, let me ask you a follow up question of that, because the Republican Party has two pretty significant factions right now, and that is the those who sit in judgment on one side of everyone. They deem to be the wrong kind of Republican, even though they can't define what a good Republican is. I know because I ask them. And then you have people that are just looking to have some kind of normal party politics. In my mind anyway, obviously I'm more aligned with one than the other. How

So, Manny, that's an awesome question.

And if you look at my platform which I sent you, Richard Holthorp announces Platform to Empower Colorado Republicans.

I hope you got that in your email.

I actually put that on my page release.

I put it on my blog today so people can click through and read it for themselves.

So perfect we know that Republicans go from the far side of the say, the rhino type flavor of Republican, all the way to the far far hard right, libertarian, uncompromising Republican. So we have this spectrum, but there are so many different flavors of Republican in between. I served as the House whip in the seventy fourth General Assembly.

And I had in the caucus the mighty nineteen. I had this spectrum, and we had to stay.

Together as a team. I had to manage those team in those differences. I had some Republicans that were social liberals and physcal conservatives. I had other Republicans that were far right, hard right, evangelical, uncompromising, unway of rank conservatives and wouldn't give an inch on anything, and they'd vote no on everything.

And you know what, if you want to get one hundred percent on your liberties.

Core cart, just vote no on everything. You'll max out on the test A plus. You know you'll be in the honor role, honor society. But will you get anything done in state government if you don't compromise and work with people, if you don't find solutions.

So I've had this experience in a microcosmic level. Now we have to extrapolate that to the whole state. We have to bring everybody together.

I have a message of you, and I have a message of building bridges, not burning bridges. And this is not the Republican Inquisition of the fifteenth and sixteenth century.

I'm from Spain, Mandy, I was born in Madrid. You av Rospaola.

I've seen the history and.

I know the failings were in Spain, in the country I came from during the Spanish Inquisition. That is not a platform, and that is not a position the state party should promote because it shouldn't be We're gonna burn everybody at the stake if you're not as far red right Republican as I am.

I mean, it's just common sense.

But we've lost our way, and I'm going to work to build those bridges, unify us, bring us back together so we can focus on the real enemy.

Who's the real enemy.

It's the far left, woke socialist Marxist Democrat that have ruined this state and are ruined the nation. And they were rejected in November, Mandy. We threw them out at the national level. And we have to have a message that resonates in Colorado say we don't need to go this woke, we don't know what need to go this far left. Let's get candidates can resonate in their districts and promote our Republican platform and their principles so they can win in their districts.

Let me ask you. We're almost out of time. I literally have thirty seconds. I've got Richard holtref I've got Daniel Nuschwanger, they're running to be chair and vice chair of the Colorado Republican Party. Richard, one last question, and I need like a short, tiny answer and that is, would you continue to pursue the lawsuit that Dave Williams is pursuing to block unaffiliateds from Bloke voting in a Republican primary?

Mandy, I feel bad that I'm taking a lot of Danielle's.

Time, But here's the answer. It's the will of the people. If the state Central Committee wants to pursue that.

I work for them. It's a bottom up process. But this is going to cost so much money. And as a matter of fact, when they did the lawsuit, they took money away from candidates that needed the money to campaign.

Why would I do that.

I would put the money where the investment is to get more Republicans elected. Then to go after a lawsuit and have this continued in fighting against these different factions within our party. We have to reconcile, We have to have a period of.

Reconstruction, and we have to reunite our party.

And you don't do that by enriching lawyers in court and legal actions.

That is, Richard Holdtorf he will be one of the candidates to be voted on a week from Saturday? Is that when the Central Committee meets? Is it a week from Saturday?

Yes, ma'am.

It'll be March twenty ninth, Radiant Church, and I believe it'll start at nine am.

In contact, we'll find out if you are the next chairman. Daniel Neuschwanger becomes the next vice chair after that. Thank you both for your time today. I very much appreciate it, guys.

Thank you.

All right, Well, my guys, let's take a quick time out. I will tell you that the text line delivered today. I'm just going to say not a lot of fans of Richard holdtorf on the text line, including a couple, but it made me laugh super hard because they're funny. I feel like I'm about to buy a youthed car, maybe hair growth tonic and my favorite, this guy almost makes me wish the Rockies were playing. So Texters, you

Now, knowing what.

We know about our homeless population.

Downtown, it is not crazy to.

Speculate that these were all drug overdoses. That would not be a crazy assumption. And the police have given up no information. March tenths, there were three deaths March thirteenth to deaths March fourteenth to deaths, one on Saint Patrick's Day and one on March eighteenth. Now, in my mind, this would indicate that there is a bad batch of drugs going around in the homeless community in downtown Denver, And if we had an effective means of getting toxicology reports back quickly.

We do not.

By the way, it will be ninety tw one hundred and twenty days because they have to send these toxicology tests to outside the state sources. But we will not get that information in time to find out which batch of drugs is killing these people. But nine people in nine days, can you imagine if we had nine shooting deaths in nine days in Colorado? In Denver, that would be front page news of every newspaper, it would be the lead story in every single television station, and yet

For their addiction.

They're suffering.

We want to make it easier.

We want to embrace harm reduction, give them the needles to inject their drugs or their pipes to smoke it, or whatever it is they do. We're compassionate people. But the reality is is that when you allow people and you enable people to wallow in their addiction, you are buying them death. On the installment plan, and nine people, over nine days, their installments got done. Their installments are up. You know what, chance they have of recovering from their

So all of the people that voted.

For these compassionate policies, these deaths are on you, which may be why nobody wants to talk about it, because nobody wants to be faced with the reality that sometimes your choice is though they may feel good and they may make you feel good, actually lead to the deaths of people on the streets of Denver. Now, I don't know if any of these people if they had been forced through the system and forced through a drug court to say, you know, we heard this from Paul Payson

I don't know, but I know that it.

Is as effective those statistics are born out. So thank you Kyle Clark and nine News for airing this horrible story. These are nine people. These are people's you know, brothers and sisters, maybe someone's dad or mom, someone's sons are daughters, and they were allowed to rot and kill themselves on the streets of Denver more than likely because our city council cares more about giving the appearance of compassion than it does.

About actually solving the problem.

Because addicts very rarely make the choice to get themselves clean, very rarely, so addiction generally ends in prison or death, one of those things.

But guess what, the.

People in prison, the ones that take that time to get sober, they're still alive, and I'm guessing that they probably wouldn't feel the same way about the people who enabled their addiction before they were forced to get sober. We can't save every person. I want to be clear about that. I am not Pollyanna. I do not think that if you force enough people into treatment, everybody's going to be fine.

There's gonna be no od's.

We're all going to sit around and sing kumbay Yah and braid each other's hair. I'm not stupid, but shouldn't

The entire agency, he.

Says, seems to exist for the benefit of those on the payroll. One employee told him, let me give you the honest truth. A lot of FMCS employees don't do a hell of a lot, including myself personally. The reason that I've stayed is just that I don't feel like working that hard. Plus location on K Street is great. Plus we have all these oversized offices with windows. Plus management doesn't seem to care if we stay out at lunch a long time.

Can you blame me? Listen to this.

FMCS official George Cohen used a recreation and Reception fund to order champagne and two hundred dollars coasters for his office and to purchase artwork painted by his wife. The tiny agency commissioned paintings of its top employees, as one employee told me, like they were reigning kings or something. It spent two four hundred and two dollars retouching the portrait of someone who briefly held the top job in an acting capacity. Their employees unblocked their government credit cards

One employee used his.

Card to rent a storage unit near his home in rural Virginia, two hours from the office he supposedly worked at. It stored his personal positions, such as a photo album of his dog Buster. He also spent eighteen thousand dollars at a jewelry store near his house and destroyed all purchase card records upon leaving the agency when a different retired.

A working phone. When an accountant blew.

The whistle, the director forced her to send an email retracting her statement he actually wrote it. One purchase was for thirty thousand dollars on trinkets making employees anniversaries. The agency's office was absurdly oversized, but it refused to move It. Hired a consultant for a hallway improvement project to decorate. It, had an in house gym for employees, purchased one thousand dollars TV for the gym, a three thousand, eight hundred and sixty seven dollars ice maker, and a five hundred

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show. I'm your host for the next fifty six minutes, Mandy Connell, joined by Anthony Rodriguez and brol Of You thank you, little air Horner. For all of you who hear me talk about the blog, let me tell you where to find it. Mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look in the latest posts section and you may have to scroll over to.

The right, depending on what time of the day you go. Look for the blog.

Because as a Rod posts the podcast from the show, he's already posted. Did you already post the one from earlier or is that after the show?

Which one?

Well, we had a great interview with Representative Jarvis Caldwell posted posted, and then we had another interview with Richard Holdtorf and Daniel Neuschwanger. Yeah, okay, they'll be up shortly, but you can all find all the podcasts. If you want to share any of those interviews, we'd love it because that helps the show grow and is important for me, your talk show host. So mandy'sblog dot com, we'll take

A decade.

And this is what he had to say. What surprised me most about my FMCS investigation was what happened afterward? Nothing And Inspector General made a referral to the FBI, but there were no prosecutions. Instead, President Barack Obama nominated a chief subject of.

The investigation to the top job.

A decade later, Trump has shut down what even the agency's own employees said should have happened. Shut it down. So maybe under Cash Mattel's FBI, we can actually prosecute the people who blatantly stole money from the taxpayers. Okay, I've got to direct you to the craziest tweet that I've seen in so long, but also one of the least surprising. So this is from Steve Karnaki who is on MSNBC, and he did a piece on MSNBC the headline white men, white women, and the gap within the

They're at plus one. Then we get to white women with no college.

Degree, and they're at plus fourteen plus fourteen. Then we get to white women with a college degree. Hey, Rod, what do you think that white women with a college degree from plus one hundred to minus one hundred, where do you think they are on that scale in terms of how much they like Donald Trump? Knowing that white men with no degree were plus forty one, okay, plus one hundred. Oh no, no, no, no, they like how much they like him? White women with a college degree,

Minus five.

White men with a college degree they like him. Plus eleven white women with no degree minus three. White women with a college degree. They I think he is a dreamboat. They are at plus fifty three. He is more popular than anything else with white women with a college degree. You know why, because they're not going to be the ones fighting and dying in that war. Isn't it funny that white women with a college degree are now the

Ones plus on that one.

And then the Democratic Party. No one likes the Democratic Party. White men with no degree minus fifty eight, white men with college degree minus thirty eight, white women with no degree minus thirty six, white women with a college degree minus four. It goes on from there, But I mean, talk about a group of people that are out of step.

With everyone else.

It's just it's crazy how out of step college educated women have become. And it's rapidly apparent to me why so many of them are single and unhappy, Because they're diametrically opposed not to just white men without a college degree. They're also kind of opposed to white men with a college degree, but not to the same extent. And here's the kicker. They are the most strident, loud, most likely to show up at the women's march, most likely to key a tesla group of people that I know, and

No?

More than normal?

No, I mean I don't feel like that.

I feel like it's just like the standard level of rudeness. Like if there was a graph, you know, there'd be like some up some downs, But I feel like this is just on the median line. Really, like, just write that same level. Yeah, yeah, I don't feel like we're making any big gains. No on the rudeness section. Voldemir Zelensky. Where's Harry Potter in this statement? I've never been able to say his first name right, And I don't know

That's a big animating issue. But it goes beyond that.

People that go to college graduate from college, a lot of them move into the sort of these jobs and positions where mayor autocracy is very important and they're very married to the hierarchy. Right, So they've also spent four years being going to colleges where the instructor base is almost always overwhelmingly liberal, overwhelmingly not even close. We have the story about CU which has become apparently a landing pad for old political you know, members of big administrations.

So we already know they're being indoctrinated for four years.

And I'm not saying that they're easy to indoctrinate, but they're easy to indoctrinate. And then they get all that for four years and then they come out and they move into the hierarchy. The hierarchy, by the way, which they've been told is they work really, really hard, they can move up in because that's what our society is supposed to be based on. But they don't like anyone

Trump. But I think it goes more than that.

I think people on the right tend to be more individualistic. I'm seeing a lot more tribalism on the right than I've seen previously in my lifetime, and I don't like it.

I don't think it's productive.

That's why the tribalism and the Republican Party here in Colorado bothers me so much. It's unnecessary. First of all, it's stupid. It's juvenile to sit around and call each other names. I mean, what is the point do you go to bed at night if you're one of these people engaging on Facebook and these various groups. I'm in a bunch of Facebook groups, not under my Mandy Connall account, and I just watch these people going at it. They're going after each other, and it's just so petty and

There's no good, good point in it.

That's part of my issue trying to wrangle all the kittens on the side of a Republican party is because people tend to be much more individualistic, you know. It's sort of the thing that goes to the question I asked earlier. When people are out destroying Tesla dealerships and cutting the cords on the charging stations at the Colorado Mills Mall, that just happened, Like what left wing companies

And by the way, if you don't want to buy a Tesla, that's fine. I haven't wanted to buy a Tesla since.

They came out. We're now on the same side. So I think there's a lot of that. But I do think that left wing women who go to college have spent four years in a echo chamber of epic proportions as more and more colleges are being run by women and more things are being put in place in colleges that are designed to soften the blows that the world gives for young women. We've heard about the crying spaces and the safe space conversations when things happen that are upsetting.

I really I don't understand it.

They're not going to go fight, they probably don't have children that are going to go fight, but yet they're supporting Ukraine, and where's the support on Israel for defending itself?

Same logic, But you know, I would say what happened on October.

Seventh could be stated as an invasion and they are just protecting themselves. I mean, that's my take on it, and I'd love to know what you guys think about that. And I'm not even being insult to get obnoxious about that. I've given that a new I've given that a lot of thought. I've given a whole lot of thought. There's certain things in life that are very clearly gender divided.

Got this great.

I love your Twitter feed, I love your ex feed because it's a great crypto deal for you. If you I got this blogged and reported, go away, go away please. So a couple of things that we've got on the blog today that I think is super interesting, although not really kind of those big deal stories. I do have a story about AI and copyrights. Why do we care about this? Well, as yours truly works on the radio,

It.

What would have taken me just to format it would have.

Taken me, like you know, at least half an hour because I'm not good Like that took chat GPT three seconds. So more and more people are using AI. But I think it is a valid question about whether or not that AI in and of itself could hold a copyright. But my question for this guy is, in every AI platform that I have tested, and I'm not I haven't tested all of them, I've tested like ten, right, the AI doesn't do anything until it is prompted by me

I don't know.

GROC has let me down a couple of times, you guys, because I'm still at the stage where whatever AI tells me, I'm gonna check their work not I am not good because the stuff that I'm asking about I'm gonna bring to the show. And the last thing I need to do is make an idiot out of myself because I believed AI. That was stunningly wrong. And GROC has let me down a couple times. So ROCK is not there yet. Chat GPT still works for most of the stuff that I need it for. I love it. I gotta tell

Yes?

Yes, I have done that. I have asked for references. But then I'm also super good on the Google, so I can pop whatever they tell me and I can throw it in Google and find for myself, like what you know, where they were going with that, Mandy chat GPT is really good with medical information and I also use it to plan driving trips and foreign countries around history and food. I tried that when we went to Switzerland,

Does anybody know.

What's going on on eastbound colfax?

Anybody anyone know what's going ont?

Do you guys belong to one of those groups from your hometown, like you know you're from wherever? If like anything like that or blankety blank gossip? I love those from my hometown. And let me tell you what every post is, every post is. Did anybody hear that loud noise last night? Anybody know what's going on down the Highway forty seven? There's a lot of cop cars down there. The whole Facebook page is at I love it. Trump is sitting down right now. He just signed it, not

Act on this.

And you are not gonna move enough Democrats in the Senate to make this happen. But that being said, it is the start of something that I strongly believe needs to happen. If you look at how the United States has performed compared to other nations, educationally since the formation of the Department of.

Education, which by the way.

Was formed to help our students be more competitive around the world. Even though we were tops in education back then, we've now fallen to the middle of the pack mostly sometimes even further than that. The only areas that we've seen improvement are in math, which is good, but reading our scores.

Of state exactly the same.

This has been the most colossal failure of a department of any department other than the Department of Energy, which remember the Department of Energy, created around the same time, was going to wean us off for an oil that's gone super well, as you can tell. But as Reagan said, there's nothing more permanent than a government agency. Thomas Massey, by the way, who is coming on the show this next Thursday, Wait a minute, let me check and see so I can get this right. Got him on the

Grants should come without strings.

And I love it when people say, but what about the states like Kentucky and Mississippi. His education systems are not that great. Well, they've sucked under the Department of Education and have continued to suck under the Department of Education. When I was on the Aaron Kentucky, we used to say all the time when there'd be you know, rankings put out about nationwide schools and stuff like that, the bottom two forty nine and fifty. We're generally speaking Kentucky

So I'll be fine without a department of education.

I'm good.

I'm completely good, Mandy.

I still carry a map and compass when in the back country, hiking or backpacking.

Does that make me a luddite?

No, it makes you smart. Smart because not only you know that you're not going to have service to tell you where to go, but smart too because you.

Know how to use a compass in a map.

I'm telling you, in a post apocalyptic society, the younger generations, they are so screwed. They're all going to die like the first few weeks. I mean, I'm not saying you should hope to get taken out by the first strike, but they have none of these skills we're talking about. As a matter of fact, I am now starting I'm becoming pen pals with my grandsons so they can learn to read cursive. So games is going to be writing the letters incursive just so they can learn cursive. Thank you, Texter.

What is that road?

Golly, I can picture the road and it goes right by Fort Carson on the back. Well, I guess the which side is that? Where you actually drive by the range. It can be very unnerving if you're on that road and you hear one of those big guns and you're not ready for it. Wow. Also, maybe if those Democrats knew they wouldn't get elected again, if they didn't get rid of the Department of Education, maybe they would be

Man, who was playing first of all when you were down there? So when I was down there, it was Montana and Wisconsin. Wisconsin beat him up pretty good. Montana.

Montana was asking for respect, and I'm like, winning.

We'll give you the respect.

But to watch their final game against Northern Colorado and their conference tournament, and I thought Northern Colorado was a better team, but Montana won and they kept it close in the first half. But you know Wisconsin right, big ten school, and the atmosphere down there is incredible. I can't imagine the game going on right now. Is VCU and BYU and BYU travel their crowd, man, So I'm

That'll be fun. But yeah, it's my favorite sports time of the year.

It is so and I've had the chance to go to these first round games, and the crowd is a mix of fans who traveled, but a lot of times you have schools the fan base isn't necessarily going to travel as much, so you have a lot of locals. It's such a fun experience. It's just different than anything else.

It's so different, and college sports are just a different beast because the fans are just so passionate, you know. That's usually they're alma mater or they have someone they know that played there, and it's just it's so much fun. And I we got to interview this kid, Marshall Almos who we ran the story on me and Rob Dawson

So like, it was so much fun and it's it's it's really it is. It's the best time of the year.

Ben alright.

Also in the studio, Ben, I heard you've been giving out money this week. Not that guy, Oh yeah, just randomly rain on veterans and establishments. The money for our heroes.

Thank you, some of us going out this week. We had a couple of those.

We get to more tomorrow.

I think people to understand how hard it is to coordinate all the kids to make those giveaways happen. But the videos where the videos they rot?

Are they?

Another one posted today across all of our socials and the end, like Ben said, two more tomorrow. So this is the second one. Another one if you missed the first one with Rob obviously you love that one. Not a great one.

Yeah, I really emotional one yesterday.

Fine they all are.

It was a little reclemped.

No, Ben, your tiny heart, that's three sizes too small.

I think it's more than that size is too small.

I'm not going they squeeze juice from a stone for once. There you go.

Now I got both of you guys in here because now it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio of It's Kine and the worm of the day.

Of course Grant takes it because Ben never knows what's to say.

Okay, there you go. Oh geez geez, Grant, someone DVR the game. We should have given a little warning.

Like the time the last.

You're a true fan of Montana, like you're not watching the game live it is.

Sorry, sorry, jobs, I'm just saying, what is our dad joke of ada? Please?

Well, you know, I just realized that the word seven has even in it.

That's odd, good times, good times?

All right?

When is our word?

It's an adjective adjective vernal v e r n A l vernal.

I know what that has to do with, Okay, lunar vernal is vernal. There's a vernal equinox means.

So the root spring, so it has to doring.

Spring, and the other one is well.

The Pagans called this the formal adjective that describes something that relates to or occurs in the spring by the.

Put a big article a couple of articles about the spring equinox that I thought were kind of interesting on the blog today at Mandy's blog dot com. All right, our trivia question of today. In twenty twenty one, a science fiction mini series called Station eleven was released.

On HBO Max.

It's based on a best selling book of the same name.

Who wrote the.

Book, I have no idea, No, I'm oh no, no no.

The Old Emily Saint John mandel O color novels includes The Glass Hotel and Sea of tranquility.

Oh, I think I've actually heard of cea of tranquility.

Yeah, that sounds smooth. Yellow one doesn't.

Okay, we got Mandy, we got Ben, we got Grant. What is our category?

I'm always angry? Okay, which I'm not the category of? Yeah, I'm always angry. If you're this as a hatter, you're said, Mandy, what is mad? We're coming at you fast?

And this bend?

What is furious? Correct? It can describe and acrid, acrid, acrid taste or an acrimonious feeling acrid. In the song Monty Python said, God gets quite this angry word, rhyming it with great, Ben, what is that great? To grant?

I have cereal.

This sixth letter word for to irritate is properly intransitive. The insults blank, not the insults blank me. You guys got a winner hair because I heard read one time. Six letter word for to irritate is properly intransitive. Wrong answer is wrinkled.

Congrats, been, congrats, and today I got no glory? Is what I got for my guts?

I don't on that way, you know what? Take the w man the same on the scoreboard.

Been in my heart will know too small.

Are you doing k sports today? What do you guys have it coming up?

We go a whole bunch of stuff coming up, talking about tournament a little bit. We've got Nick Ferguson's going to be in here on the will.

I love the Ferge Keenan Dixon from our news bear to joining us live from Ballerina.

Excellent, lots of fun.

Former guest of the taking.

It for granted everybody there By the way, somebody wants you to do a taking for granted with Jesse Thomas.

I will not this time here because he's a busy man.

Well, I had the best time with him in Arizona. I mean it was just going and have you done spring training there? But I want to go so it stay in Scottsdale. First of all, pay the money. It's so bougie and fantastic. But that stadium is phenomenal. The weather was incredible. It was just and I got a couple of Rockies players that I'm going to be keeping an eye on now.

I even bought a sweatshirt. I'm back in grant I'm back.

No better place on a summer day than Coursefield.

Remember that. Let's just see if we can maybe field a team though. I mean, I'm not being critical, I'm just wondering and wishing out.

One hundred losses this year.

Yeah, just ninety nine.

No, I'm just kidding.

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