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But they're good guests.
And then apparently Trump is supposed to speak at one, we will have our guests on because I really want to talk to chief, our former chief, Paul Payson about a new report from Common Sense. By the way, I'm Mandy Connell. That guy over there is Anthony Rodriguez. We call him a rod Yes, Yes, indeedy. And let's see the blog. Shall We find it by going to mandy'sblog dot com. That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline this is three fourteen twenty five blog The Lakewood Informer
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Those are the headlines on the blog mandy'sblog dot com and to the texture just said, Mandy, I thought we had basketball again. No, and I'm just gonna say on Wednesday, I was annoyed that the cu Buffs won their game and A preempted the show.
But by Thursday I was like, Okay, we're going to win it now.
See you right, We're gonna to just go the whole way since you've now preempted three of my shows. And then they had the nerve to run into the buzzsaw that is Houston.
Last night.
They had a few moments they did. They almost came back. They brought it within five, and then Houston was Houston because they really.
All of a sudden, like they got within five and Houston was like, oh we're still playing.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, and.
That well, Mark Johnson and the broadcasting and even noted like, yeah, this is not a team you want to get down to.
Yeah, they are really good defensively.
So when they brought it within five, I was like, oh, oh see, you might might be that outlier here.
And then yeah, nope, nope.
But even if they won yesterday, it still would have preempted the show today because the next game is at.
Six o'clock tonight.
So I was rooting for him, and I'm sad that they lost. But here we are and we'll be okay, making.
The best of it.
Oh man, I was late in switching off my bad. I'm the one that can't stand the air horn and the human air horns. I know it's just me, but I can't listen after that. No, it's not just you. We have no multiple people that do complain, but we have far more people who comment in the positive. This is why we have the human airhorns. Can the little kid air horn? Even a little kid?
I really will up? Okay, I'm sorry. Okay, he's not sorry, he's not.
Every time you complain about it, an angel gets his way.
That is her. She is coming into two thirty. It's Saint Patrick's say, it's Easter and your air horns a rod. At iHeartMedia dot Com, I can on the.
Wall or they could do the talkback that to talkback is the easiest way to send us an airhorn. All you have to do on the iHeart radio is use free to use iHeart Radio app preset for conn show. By the way, I wanted to say this. I just found out in a meeting the other day that iHeart Media is actually kind of paying attention, huge emphasis to who is on your presets, meaning if this show is on your presets, it would help his sister out. I'm just throwing that out there, Okay, I'm trying to win
the preset award. So if you download the new app or update you're at, you get presets across the top. I've set all of mine to my favorite podcast. Isn't that sad that I don't have one music station? But honestly, if I don't listen to music, I don't really listen to music. Isn't that sad? It's kind of sad that I've never I'm not.
My daughter music is.
Like oxygen for her, you know, she has to have her music, and she's actually.
Introduced me to some very cool music.
But I've never been one of those people that have to have music on.
I drive in my car in silence every drive.
Nope, not every drive, but probably about seventy five percent. What yeah, I drive in silence. That's my thinking time, Like thirty minutes oh gosh, longer than that sometimes, So I've done road trips for two and a half hours in silence because I'm thinking about stuff. Sometimes I talk out loud to myself.
You don't do this other people?
Okay, I need to know texters on the Common Spirit Health text line, Who among this listening audience has a conversation with themselves out loud in the car when you're by yourself?
Who else? Every year drive?
I mean, I will say within the last week I did do one just to like calm myself.
Yea measure and time.
Probably, like I'd say, probably seventy five percent.
Of the time I drive in silence.
You're strange, I I duh, No, that's no. When I say you're strange, it's beyond the normal. You're strange. It's that's strange for you. Mandy Connall, that's strange.
Oh, you haven't begun to scratch the depths of the strangeness of Mandy.
Connon like weirder weird stuff off the air. Is it weird for you to have things in common with serial killers?
Because I think that's probably one of the things, maybe because need to be.
Stuck in their own minds. Yeah, may drive in silence. You're now with them. Yeah, that's weird. We have a text who wants to belch the air horn? Yes, God com please give him a call. He's right there on the text. I need it. I need to get on the track back. I need I need it.
So, sir or madam, who's going to belch the air horn? You have to go to your iart radio app, the one where you're going to make the Mandy Connall show a preset, and then you were going to hit the little red button on the microphone button.
Yes, and you hit that. You got thirty seconds to record whatever you want to record. If you take nice things seven minutes, I will play it. There you go multiple times. Oh, this text said hamas members drive in silence.
Also thank you text. That's actually very funny. That's very funny. I'm laughing on the inside where it counts. Yank Jason says, of course I talk to myself while driving.
That's the only time I can win an argument.
Well, we don't want you to talk to yourself right now. We want to talk back to us using the free us at radio app.
Using the talkback is like talking to yourself, only to us.
Yes, see purpose yeah, not to be your serial killer. There you go, Mandy.
I talk to myself all the time while driving, and once I even turned down the radio so I can hear myself better. Okay, I haven't done that because I usually turn the radio off like there's no sound there.
I'll interview myself about stuff. If I need to see better when looking for a parking spot, I turn what.
You have to.
Everybody knows that if you can't see a street sign, you've got to turn the radio down. That's I think they teach that in driving school. Now it's just universe, Mandy. I talk to myself all the time, But you're a psycho for driving in silence a psycho.
No it's not, Mandy.
Just cursing out stupid drivers count as a conversation with myself.
No it does not.
I'm talking about when you have a problem to work out, right, because I found and I'm trying to teach my daughter this now.
Sometimes when I'm in.
My head thinking about stuff, when I say whatever I'm thinking out loud, I realize how absolutely batpoop crazy what I'm thinking is.
This is why this show is so cathartic. This is exactly why this show is cathartic because.
I just say whatever's in my head to you guys, and sometimes it comes out of my mouth and I'm like, you know, it doesn't quite sound the way I thought it was gonna sound, but hey, whatever, it's out there, Mandy. I used to drive to Denver to Salt Lake City about half the time without the radio on, and I would mention a few things to myself. I'm sure, yeah, Mandy. I drive or am at home in silence, and in my head, I've got depesch and enjoy the silence playing.
In my head.
That's a lot of concentrating about silence. I just go with the sound of silence. That's what I hum to myself as I drive in silence.
You guys.
I think maybe part of it is having headphones on for three hours a day, because now I'm hearing myself. I'm hearing my own voice for three hours a day and it's right there.
And by the time I get in my car, I just want.
Quiet from my own voice. What does that say about me? I think I need therapy anyway.
Let me tell you what's actually.
Happening on the show today. I did not I was not was a rhetorical question. Oh sorry, you think I did not need any kind of affirmation on that. You got it anyway, An Belch, you weren't here when I asked for snitches on the air, people to rat out their local governments, their city councils, their town managers. I wanted to know because I can't pay attention to every bit of dirt. And I can't even tell you how many people emailed me and said, you've got to get
the link an informer on the show. First of all, I like anything called the Informer, but Karen Morgan has been doing the Lakewood Informer. I don't even know how long we're going to find out when we talk to her at twelve thirty. It is a website devoted to Lakewood, So if you live in Lakewood, you're probably gonna want to check this out because much I mean in the Lakewood story is being.
Told all over. It's being the same story.
And that is the battle between residents who moved to an area for a certain ambiance and the push to create greater density, to drive the tax space, to rate make more money so they can have more amenities and do all of those things that happen in a growing city and it's conflict. And this is happening all over the front Range. I mean, it's happening in Littleton where they're trying to approve some big project in Littleton, and you know you've got citizens pitted against developers, you know,
pitted against city council. That's what I want to know because I'm paying attention down here in Douglas County, right, I'm Intoglass County, and I pay attention, and we got some shady stuff going on. It's board a county commissioners. I've just heard that they fired a woman from a planning commission seat, and I'm getting her on the show to find out about that. So it's like, I'd love to dig into some of the stuff. I'd love to expose stuff. But I will tell you what I'm having a hard time with.
I got a couple tips from a couple of different.
Smaller communities and they were basically like, here are the rumors.
Right.
Well, I can have the mayor on the show and I can say, here are the rumors. Is any of this true? But I don't know the answers to those questions, and it's hard to find out in a small farming community what's actually going on. So I'm basically enlisting all of you to rat out the stuff.
That's going on in your communities.
The only way to solve these problems is to shine sunlight on it. And this is something that the leadership in Colorado absolutely hates, which just makes me want to do it even more if you look at what's happening in the Jefferson County School District where they have demonstrated.
And I got to get Lindsay Dakko back on the show because she is just going lights out on these people as a citizen journalists doing CORP requests, and she has proven how dismissive of the actual parents in Jefferson County, this board and this superintendent are. I mean, it's stunning some of the stuff that's happening, but I can't cover it all, you guys.
And I'd love to.
I love disrupting sanctimonious people in government who think they are better than the people that they are supposed to be serving. And we've got more than our And by the way, I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat, I really don't. All three members of the Board of County commissioners and Douglas County are Republicans, and I still don't trust him one of them. I don't
fully not trust because you just got into office. But I'm waiting to see if he is the rubber stamp that I've been told he is.
We shall see.
Oh.
You know the best thing about the Internet, I think that has been so democratizing in the sense that.
If you have music.
Now, if you're a musician and you have a lot of talent, I'm not saying you just put your stuff on YouTube and you're gonna get discovered, But the reality is is that more and more musicians are getting discovered because young people find them on YouTube or they find their music on Spotify. That would have been absolutely impossible two decades ago, not even maybe fifteen years ago, right because you just have to go through a record company and you had to sign a contract that was inevitably
suck really bad for you. But that's been taken care of, and now we have this entire class of citizen journalists who have risen up, so they're out there doing the work that reporters that work for newspapers and television stations either don't want to cover, their editors don't want them to cover, or they simply don't have time.
One of the big.
Areas of defense that I will always issue for people in the mainstream media newspeople working for any kind of television, newspaper, whatever organizations.
They are all working with far.
Fewer resources than they were just fifteen years ago, and they're working their butts off, but there's so few people that they cannot cover everything anymore. And then there's the editors who say, no, we're not going to cover that for whatever reason. But the citizen journalists are doing incredible work, and this is incredibly powerful opportunity to cast a light on some of the bad behavior that is going on. And it doesn't have to be evil, it doesn't have
to be criminal. It just has to be something that makes you go, wait a minute, is this right for the community, And are they doing it for themselves or are they doing it for everybody else?
And this is how we make it happen.
So I appreciate that we're going to talk to Karen Morgan here at about twelve thirty from a Liakewood informer.
I link to it. If you're in Lakewood, I would suggest you check it out. We also are going to have former chief of Police.
Paw he's now a fellow with the Common Sense Institute.
And they just did a new report that I'm making sure I can open the report.
Okay, Yes, they did a new report the Fight against Crime in Colorado policing, legislation and incarceration, and they compare in a lot of it Colorado Springs and Denver. And I'm just gonna get I'm gonna I'm gonna let you guess. I'm gonna let you guess which city spends more as a percentage of its overall budget on policing, which city has more police officers per capita, and which city has a lower crime rate. Now, if you guessed that those
through three things may be connected, you guessed correctly. But we'll talk to Paul Payson at one o'clock about that. And then we are coming up on Saint Patrick's Day on Monday. We are coming up on Easter in a few weeks? Is it just a few weeks? Holy macaroniates? What so lent ash Wednesday? I can't do the mask in my head right now?
Yeah?
A little over a month, No, not even a month. Sorry, guys, don't ask me to do math and dates. Ever, for this very reason, she's got some suggestions, some bubbles, and I said to her the last time we spoke us, so, you know what may be helpful for all of my listeners, why don't you start doing wine store reviews. So that way, when people hear us talking about something and they go, well, I live in Oravada, so I don't know where to get this stuff, they can go to I am Thewineyogi
dot com and find a review. And by the way, that's just started, so they're not all up there and they're not all done, but that way you can help people find stores that we're really good. So she has taken that to heart and has our first wine story review as well.
So we got a big show, and we've got a whole show, a whole entire show just ready to be done. And I'm so excited right now, so excited.
Okay, I love all of y'all for sending me tips about stuff to look into. I need you guys to email me because the text line is here and gone, right, I don't it doesn't stay. Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com. Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com. So check that out to the text or he just said Kyle Clark drives around listening to recordings of himself.
I bet stop it. I'm trying. I'm trying to find commonalities with Kyle.
He's doing some really good reporting on the GOP chairman's race. Just trying to, you know, send out positivity, people positivity. We'll be right back with the Liquid Informer. Keep it right here on KOA and it's past twelve thirty. M super excited about that. I asked you guys to on my snitch line by emailing me Mandy Connell at iHeartMedia dot com tell me about the shenanigans.
That are going on your community. And I said this a couple of weeks ago.
Within two minutes, I had five different emails saying, You've got to talk.
To the Lakewood Informer. Now I am talking to the Lakewood Informer. Now, Karen Morgan joining me in the studio.
Let's talk about your website, Lakewoodinformer dot com. But first let's talk about why you decided to start reporting on shenanigans in Lakewood.
What happened to you?
Hi, thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate the opportunity because there are shenanigans at the local level and once you notice and you can spot it at the higher level.
So I appreciated.
In my case in Lakewood, I was working with my kids. My husband was building model rockets and we wanted to go to the park and shoot them off, and they we got pushed out of the Lakewood parks. There is a law on the books that says model rockets shall not be prohibited.
What'd they do prohibited them?
So where was the law that said they shall not be prohibited? Was that a state law?
It's city ordinance?
Wait? Wait, so they violated their own city ordinance.
They redefined model rockets as dangerous missiles as a gun ordinance?
Are you kidding me?
So it's now science is out in Lakewood. So they pushed you out of the park. And what happened after that, Well, then I got.
Involved in other things, and I see this happens all the all the time. For example, you know, now I'm looking at pick an issue, it happens there. I write a lot about crime. People come and complain about the crime in Lakewood all the time. They come to city council meetings, in public comment online on next door, and
nothing happens, right, as a matter of fact. And then we bring it up and they they say that the police deprioritize certain all the city crimes, the drug paraphernalia, they're testpassing.
The nuisance crimes.
Yes, yes, And they say it doesn't really matter, don't And then they say, well, it doesn't rise to the level of our interfering because we just don't have the staff.
Well, which one is it? Right, is crime so high that you don't have time for this?
And which one is? Or these policies working and therefore you should have time for.
Right, you should have time for the major crime.
Yeah, they want it both ways.
They want to tell you that these policies are working, to not enforce and to forgive crime, and they go the extra mile to say that everything is fine, but it's not fine because things are still bad.
Well, it's interesting that you're on here today because my next guest coming up at one is former Denver Police Chief Paul Pais, and he's with a Common Sense Institute and they did a breakdown of Denver and Colorado Springs and amazingly, and of course correlation is not causation, but Colorado Springs spends a much bigger portion of its budget on police. It has more police officers per capita, I believe,
and they have a lower car I'm right. I mean, I'm not saying they're connected, but at some point we've got to connect this. How big is the Lakewood Police Department's budget as a percentage.
Of the overall budget? Do you know?
You know, I don't know the numbers offhand. I know this year they did not ask for a budget increase. They are shifting resources into more it's resource management, it's community officers, so that they will give out resources instead of and they are this year they're going to be doing more AI assisted report writing. That's what they're saying. But I researched that early on. And for the size of Lakewood, for the population, we should have enough police officers.
That's not the problem.
All things being equal, we should have enough police officers.
What is different in Lakewood?
And could it have something to do with we have these laws on the books that we're just not enforcing right people, the residents don't know that. The residents still call in and ask for help, and city council outright refuse to tell them multiple times, we refuse to study the situation.
Refused to tell people that's.
What is going on, and that's got to have something.
To do with it.
So what do you think it is about Lakewood specifically, because depending on first of all, depending.
On what part of Lakewood.
Lakewood is a lot like Aurora in the sense that there are parts of Lakewood that are beautiful, like really beautiful, and then there are parts of Lakewood that are way.
More beat up. So how does that all play into making Lakewood what it is?
You know, that's very interesting because that is really getting to be divisive at the city council level. It's you guys have a one section words four and five. You have a beautiful part of the city, So you should be concentrating over here along coal facts for example, and putting the resources over there. We should be spending more
money and going like this. But you know, overall, people come to the city with all of these problems and they're asking for help, and it almost doesn't matter where you live or what your problem is because the city council isn't listening.
City officials are not listening.
People are now coming into the hundreds to city council meetings, which where that.
In and of itself is remarkable because no one goes to city council meetings.
I mean it's right, you guys.
Nobody wakes up in the morning and goes, yes, I get to go to a city council meeting tonight.
So the fact that people are.
Showing up by the hundreds, what are specifically some of the biggest issues in Lakewood? We've already talked about crime. Are you guys having the same issues that we're having in Douglas County and in a Rapo County where you have people that have been there for a long time.
You want to preserve the.
Character of wherever they are right and then development, you know, obviously they want the tax space, they want a larger business community or whatever. Are you having those same kind of conflicts at the board as well?
Absolutely? Absolutely so they're coming in. One of the big issues. I mean, that's affordable housing right right is the big build up And you've mentioned that, how do you make affordable housing work for all these other different cities? And I don't even know if it's the tax base, but anyway, people have come for that.
They show up, they ask for setbacks on.
Their property, they ask for park money, park land to.
Be set aside.
They ask for these things, and then the city has one excuse after another. That's really what it comes down to, one excuse after another. And then if that's not good enough, what the city is doing now is taking it up to the state level and inserting provisions into.
Bills to make the excuses to the city. And then they say, oh, there's nothing we can.
Do, like what give me an example.
For example, ten ninety three house built ten ninety three just passed.
That was a limit to local growth.
We have another one. How does that look? I am not familiar with that.
It's an anti growth restriction.
And an anti anti growth restriction, meaning you can't vote to municipality can't say we're going to.
Limit growth right.
Well, and that was I've lived in.
Multiple communities in Florida, because I've already been through this once in Florida where everyone from the northeast invaded, right, So there are there were any time they tried to limit growth. All they did was jack up remaining property prices so high that it had the opposite effect of trying to bring, you know, make anything more affordable.
It was kind of a disaster.
And I should say that's not this bill specifically, because I already repealed that in commone right, But for example, we have Lakewood is fighting for parkland dedication and.
Actually, let me back up, because I know.
Better, House Bill twenty five, twelve eleven, that is something silly.
It's a water tap fees. Okay, how much you're going to.
Charge to tap into the system your share of the overall infrastructure, right going on?
Lakewood wants to limit that. They have wanted to limit.
That for decades, and now is their opportunity. So they have there inserting that at the state level to make sure and do that here in Lakewood. And that is they're saying a little bit of limiting tap fees, it's a lot of making sure you develop every square inch of land because if you don't put concrete there, then you have to pay for extra watering and irrigation whatever, just go through the roof.
So it's really a development aid.
Do you feel like the Lakewood City Council is to beholden to developers? Is that a common feeling in Lakewood?
You know, there's a balance you really have to strike with the development. But what I do know is that you can't take away the local control of the water districts who set their fees, and for disclosure, I am a director elector director on one of these water districts.
You can't take away the local control from.
People who know how to set the fees equally to do some city agenda or state agenda for that matter, because the only agenda of these little water districts is to get the bills paid.
Right.
So let's take a quick time out. Karen Morgan is my guest from the Lakewood Informer. I want to ask you some of your favorite stories that you have covered, and I want to talk about Bill mar Park for just a second, because that was mentioned specifically by multiple people, and this is kind of what we're talking about now, where development and green space are colliding.
Will be right back.
Happy Friday to everybody, even those of you driving slowly in your fast car. I never realized how ironic it was that this car the song is called fast cars and it's so slow in silence. Shush by the way way in on our Twitter, our Facebook or our Instagram pages, we just asked if anyone else drives like a psycho
in silence. I'm with Karen Morgan, the Lakewood Informer and Karen a couple questions, one from this texture, Mandy, can you ask her for details as to why Lakewood council member Rich Oliver gave up his seat?
Please? What happened there?
Rich was really fighting upstream and nobody wanted to listen.
They shut him down, They wanted to censure.
Him at one point, and he walked away. He said, there's no point in being here. This is not a collaborative effort and there's nothing he can do.
So we just called it out and stopped wasting his time. I admire that I'm getting him on the show. Let's talk about Bellmar Park for a moment. This is a big thing going on in Lakewood. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. This is my outsider looking inview. Bellmar Park residents said we want to protect green space for this development, and they did. They pass an initiative or something, or they pushed something forward, and then the city council basically went, nah, uh, how close am I?
You're so close? Except you missed all the shenanigans.
Okay, I did be the lead. There was more.
Yes, they're trying to protect the open space. The new development going in is going to be developed right up into the lot line on Bellmar Park, which on one hand is your right. On the other hand, it's really encroaching into the space. The development space will be pushed out. It will destroy the setbacks that have already exist. People got upset about it. Cities said there's nothing they can do. Residents did get together and I'm the least qualified to
speak on this. Save open Space Lakewood and save Bellmarpark dot com.
They're the ones who have really put in the time. But they asked for the thing. They didn't get any accommodations.
They started a petition, they got six thousand, they got more than six thousand. They got to the wild registered official press signers.
Yes, and.
To mandate that you have to give land. You can't buy your.
Way out of the right on dedication. That's what they were trying to do. They got the initiative passed and they were going through. But during this process morshanianigans and they inserted into a state bill that you.
Who couldn't do this, So they preempted the bill before it could even get going.
While it was getting petitions. Now Lakewood didn't do this, They didn't do it at the city council level.
They did at the state level, and now as part of another state bill this year, they're saying that these citizen initiatives just can't.
Be done because they're illegal. They're going against state law.
So this person, said Mandy on Belmar, Lakewood City Council are using the excuse that they cannot put it up as a ballot measure on the usage of land versus green space. So my question is are they just lazy or would they rather have the state do the work that they were voted to do.
And that's you're telling me it's the second right there.
I think it's the second.
But you know, they said that they didn't want to risk people voting for something illegally.
I think they just knew that they were.
Going to lose.
Yeah, I would urge anybody in Lakewood to go to Lakewoodinformer dot com.
I put a link to it on the blog today.
Karen's actually got information interviews with special election candidates, which I think is really great that you now have enough gravitas that people recognize they should talk to you. I haven't listened to them yet, but I think that's wonderful for you. That really says that what you're doing at the Lakewoodinformer dot com is getting it, Doug.
Well, I appreciate it. I appreciate the time today. I appreciate those candidates who talk to us because that speaks well for their ability to listen too.
Yeah, Karen Morgan, thank you for what you do. And when you get a big scoop, we'll have you back on again. I appreciate it so much.
Thank you.
All right, we'll be right back. Chief Paul, former Chief Paul Paysan joins us. The Common Sense Institute did a report talking about some of the stuff Karen is talking about in Lakewood, only with Denver and Colorado Springs, and it is really interesting but totally unsurprising.
We'll be right back into the second hour of the show.
Anthony Rodriguez has turned into a pumpkin and it's turned into Zach Seger for the next two hours. But that's okay because we have two more hours, not just four minutes, two more hours in joining me in the studio. Now, he used to be a police chief, but now he's just a guy without a uniform. His name is Paul Paysan, and he also happens to be a public safety fellow with a Common Sense Institute.
Now, if you don't know what common sense does.
They look at the economic impact of a variety of different things, and in this case we're going to be talking about public safety.
They also, in this study that we're going to.
Talk about, look at the results of policies that are utilized by government in order to try and fight crime, or in some cases in Colorado, I would argue, make crime easier and more convenient for criminals.
So, first of all, welcome to the show. Appreciate you coming in, Mandy, Thank you, it's an honor to be here. And love the introduction. You actually nailed it. A man without a uniform.
There you're doing.
All right, let's talk about this Colorado's crime and Aurora's experience with auto theft and guys, I promoted a different study because I asked the chief, I said, well, what study are we talking about today? Because I looked at the title of paperwork he's got it and he said, oh, it's this one. I read this study. I just didn't promote his study. So if it makes you me seem crazy, well I'll just all cop to that. So this study
specifically was about Aurora's experience with auto theft. We know that Colorado was number one in the country for auto thefts. Just like a year or two ago, Aurora decided to try and do something about it. Tell me, first of all, what they decided to do well, It was.
A dubious title that no state would want to have number one in the entire country for auto theft, and that is per kapup per one.
Hundred thousand residents.
We didn't get there on accident and really bad policy equals bad outcomes. We used to be one of the safest states in the entire country, with crime rates including auto theft, at or below.
The national average.
After we made some statewide policy changes, some state statute changes, we saw dramatic increases not just in auto theft, but in property crimes, total crimes, and violent crimes. Now Aurora said, hey, we're not going to tolerate this anymore. And kudos to them for standing up and saying this is not what we want for the people that live, work, in play in our community. And they enacted a tough city ordinance to address auto theft.
And what the Resultsman, Because it's very frustrating for me and we've seen this happen so much in the legislature. Whenever you talk about making crime more difficult, there's always this little group of harpies in the background that says more cops does not equal less crime. We know we have statistics, and I get wanting to allow people to have a second chance. I get having a system where rehabilitation is a part of it, a big part of it.
But what I don't get is the notion that somehow we're going to make excuses for people that are going to commit crimes before they even commit them and then let them off the hook, which is.
What we did with gar theft. That's exactly that, Mandy.
I wish I could just take you with me and you could rephrase that or say that over and over again, because that's exactly what happened in the state of Colorado. I am the first one to raise my hand and say I believe in rehabilitation. However, I believe in accountability. And if we make excuses for criminal behavior, we are going to continue to see outpaced crime rates greater than the national average. And what Common Sense Institute does is it looks at the economic impact now crime and the
fear of crime drives the behavior of a community. If people are afraid to live, work, or play in a community, to go to work, to go to the grocery store, to cross the street and go to the park. They're going to make different choices, and sometimes those choices are no longer being residents.
Of the beautiful state of Colorado.
They will move to places where they feel safer, where that economic impact isn't as pronounced as it is here.
I have a tiny anecdote about this.
Yesterday I posted something on the blog about Auroras having an international food festival and they want looking for nominations. Just gott a throwaway story. I got an email that said, I would never go eat in Aura because I love a Wars food scene. I think it's amazing. It's all these international flavors.
And I would never go eat in Aurora.
That's the kind of perception issue that has a direct economic impact.
Is that kind of what you're talking about here? That's exactly it.
If you do not prioritize public safety, If people don't feel safe in your community, they will not go and shop in your city, they will not live in your city.
They will make choices based on safety.
Safety Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it's foundational government's first role is the protection, safety and security of its residents, and we have to prioritize that, and that hasn't been the
priority for the elected officials. The decision make the people in power who have watered down, who've made excuses for criminal behavior, who have erased a lot of the accountability, not just for auto theF but we're talking about hard drugs like fonol, cocaine, meth amphetamine that we've watered down penalties.
We've also watered down penalties went with regards to bond and letting people out on serious crimes on PR bonds or what they've done is they created monetary bonds of one dollar and two dollars, which effectively is a PR bond. So when crime goes up and we don't hold people accountable, we shouldn't be surprised.
So how is this worked out from Aurora in terms of how are their card safts different than the rest of the state, and especially say, I'd love to know their neighbors.
What that looks like? Oh, perfect intro into the report itself.
So again in twenty twenty two, Aurora said, no more, We're not going to tolerate this.
We are going to hold accountable individuals.
Who steal that car from a young family that's struggling, a single mom who needs.
That car to get the kids to school, to go to the grocery store.
They're going to say we will hold people accountable, to include a mandatory jail sentence for individuals caught stealing cars. And what the report has shown is that they have a dramatic decrease in auto thefts in their city. The projected model is they have reduced auto thefts in Aurora during that time period by at least seven hundred and twenty three auto thefts. Wow, seven hundred and twenty three
fewer victims of that particular crime. And what also gets missed in this is oftentimes a stolen car is involved in another higher level crimes, yes, higher level violent crimes. And if you're able to reduce seven hundred and twenty three crimes in your city, you're also impacting those higher level violent crimes. So they're making progress and that's exactly what this report shows.
One of the things I've always wondered as just like a normal citizen who doesn't have a lot of contact with criminals that I.
Know of, is are criminals? Are they up to speed on these laws because you know, you would think that. I mean a lot of these.
Criminals are not the sharpest people in the sharpest tool in the shed, because they would be doing something more productive if they were.
But they do know the laws, so do they know where they are? They're not going to steal a car in Aurora? Is it that calculated?
It becomes that calculated when you publicly announced that we're going to hold people accountable, as George Brockler did recently with his new position. He put the boundaries up, said hey, if you commit crimes in this area, I will hold you accountable to the fullest extent of the law. That is a deterrence effect that lets people know, hey, they're serious there. And that's exactly what Aurora did in twenty twenty two, and the report bears that out that they're
having greater success than the rest of the state. Now, I believe that their actions help push the state because the following year, the state of Colorado said, wait a minute, us defelonizing auto theft right excusing criminal behavior has had a negative impact on us. That led to the number one per Kappa crime in the entire country. And so they refelonized this crime, and we saw a decrease in the.
Rest of the state.
However, Aurora's leadership in this help nudge the state of Colorado and their results are better than what the state has done.
So, you guys have done studies in the past about specifically like how policies affect all of this stuff. Hasn't been consistent across all of these different studies that you've done. You see a consistent seam that when you invest more in law enforcement, you see a lower rate of crime. Do we now have a statistical body of evidence that would allow us to say that.
We at the Common Sense Institute, we really look at this from that economic picture frame market.
We want to make sure that we can show cost benefit.
Analysis that we're talking about here whether investing in public safety has those downstream.
Positive impacts, and it does, it absolutely does.
So.
For example, the economic impact in.
Aurora of that reduction in auto thefts is more than sixteen million dollars that they have saved.
For their community.
There is a cost per crime and auto theft in particular, it's about fifteen thousand dollars in direct costs, but there's also indirect costs associated with the adjudication, investigation, incarceration that pushes that number closer to twenty thousand per c. Now, same way, if we utilized Aurora's approach for all crime in the state of Colorado, we would see a one point eight billion billion with a B dollar savings for the people of Colorado.
And that's just on the cost of the crime itself, right, And then we're not even talking about And I'm going to use downtown Denver as an example. You were police chief in Denver, and I have spoken with police officers in Denver. I have some that email me on a regular basis, and they have been so frustrated over the years because they are arresting people and before they can finish the paperwork, the people are already out again. It's
been a very frustrating cycle. And now we see a situation in downtown Denver in my view, that we have enough of a perception a violent crime backed up by things like a flight attendant and a man being murdered on the sixteenth Street mall not too long ago. And yet I personally do not feel that either the Denver City Council nor the mayor are giving nearly enough credence to that public safety component. But I'll tell you this, I don't drive my car downtown anymore. I don't go
downtown for dinner and a show. I don't spend nearly as much time downtown as I did before because I don't know if my car is going to be broken into.
Or it's even going to be there when I get back, depending on where I am. So in terms of the economic impact of these crimes, I feel like I don't understand why people don't understand that should be the first piece to your point. What can citizens do to.
Drive the point home that, because everybody's howling about public safety, but yet it seems to be bouncing off.
The people who can actually do something about it.
So thanks for sharing that, And actually I think you are very articulately making the point that public safety matters right right, that people make decisions based on their safety and the safety of the people that they love and care about, and they make decisions on where they're going to shop, on where they're going to recreate based on safety needs as well. So it is foundational that city governs,
state governments, federal governments must protect their citizenry. That is first and foremost for people to have a high quality of life. Now, all of that being said, this report is actually quite timely. What can citizens do? What can community members do when they realize that the public safety really is a critical component of their overall quality of life, is they can see how these laws are impacting them. Right now as we speak, in the Colorado State legislature,
they don't like what Aurora has done. They're enacting a bill that they will say, hey, cities, you can't do this anymore. Even though you're prioritizing public safety at a higher level than we do, you cannot do this moving forward. And there's legislation where it says you cannot have penalties
higher than what the state does. Well, what I will tell you is if we're leaving public safety up to the folks in the state legislature who have made these water down laws beginning in twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty, the laws that mandate that repeat offenders must be released from jail within four hours, how does that make any sense?
How does it make anyone safer? Exactly?
And when they defelainize fentanyl, the most deadly poisoned drug that we have, it used to be a felony. They thought it was a good idea to turn it into a misdemeanor. Meth Amphetamine, cocaine, heroin, deadly serious drugs they have decategorized, defelinized.
And what this shows is this is one.
City's attempt to take public safety seriously and they're having positive results.
What should be happening is folks.
Saying, wait, we can hold people accountable, we can reduce crime, and yes, we can also focus on rehabilitation on the backside, so that when this person gets out, they're not stealing cars in the future, but you still have to hold them accountable for those criminal actions that they took in the first place.
Wouldn't it be ironic if essentially the same makeup the legislature that made it easier for communities to make it harder for a citizen to own a gun then decided that the communities can't make it harder.
For criminals to do a crime.
That's where we are in Colorado. It is so it doesn't make any sense to me. It's super frustrating. We got a text message on the Common Spirit Health text line you can text your questions in at five sixty six nine zero. This texter said, Hey, Mandy, former addict and criminal here. If I wasn't held accountable, I wouldn't be able to say former, And I think that you know, what is your take and on the economic impact?
Oh, actually, somebody just asked this question.
Hey, Mandy, please ask Paul if he thinks marijuana becoming decriminalized was a major player in the crimes rise here. Have you guys studied the criminal economic in pact of legalization? Because that's you know, I'm a libertarian smalll libertarian at heart, right, So I was like, sure, legalized pot, seeing what it's done to Denver and seeing what has changed here since even I moved here in twenty thirteen, because in part coincidentally, at the same time.
I'm not sure to feel that way anymore.
You know, have you guys analyzed the impact economically of that decision?
Yes?
Actually it's a very recent report.
And a fellow fellow I love saying, fellow fellow Mitch Morrissey. He's the former d attorney in Denver, and this report is no more than a month old, and it looks at marijuana as well as the impact that marijuana has on additional drugs, the costs associated with that one area that truly is underreported, that it's not talked about enough, is the direct link between.
High potency THC and that increase levels in psychosis.
It is causing mental health crisises in communities where you see, in particular, there's a Mayo clinic report, a Cleveland clinic, additional studies that are coming out on a regular basis that are saying this is driving psychosis mental health diagnoses, particularly in boys age sixteen to twenty four. So we are causing more harm in our community by having the essentially the wild wild West. It's unregulated the amount of THCHC, and that is causing long term harms in our society.
Fascinating stuff. They're doing all of this stuff at the Common Sense Institute and.
It's not all about crime. I mean, you guys really do. And I love the way the reports are written in such a way that you can draw your own conclusions. You're not sitting here telling people here's what the data is, and here's what you should think it is. Here's what the data is. You can make your own choices in your own decisions. So Paul Paysan so appreciates you coming.
In on this issue.
And I'm a huge fan of what's happening in Aurora. In my job, one of the things I get to do is I get to choose to watch things. When I first got my first show in two thousand and five, one of the first things I talked about was Venezuela at the time, still under Yugo Javez, and I told my listeners, you guys, we're going to get to see the fall of this country in real time because everything that I saw, they were headed.
Off a cliff and we've gotten to do that.
I'm watching and have been watching what's happening in Aurora under an aggressive city council, under a supportive mayor who really want to provide a vibrant, safe, beautiful place for people to live in Aurora, Colorado. And I think it's a fascinating sort of side by side study with Aurora and Denver.
I think that's going to be something to watch going.
Forward, whether it's how they're dealing with homelessness, how they're dealing with all of the other issues. It's just we have this real time case study and we get to watch it from afar and hope everything works out.
You're exactly right on that, and I think that you know, as you described, and whether or not people will go there for the International Food Festival things of that nature.
They'll go there if they feel safe, Yeah, and they'll go to downtown Denver if they feel safe, exactly. And this is showing that they're taking it serious. Some of the recent policy changes that they publicly announce.
They're saying it publicly. And why are they saying it publicly? To provide that deterrence impact and reduce the crime from prevent the crime from occurring in the first place.
And that's why you had George Brockler surrounded by law enforcement officers having a press conference to say, if you come to the twenty third and do something, you're going to jail.
That's exactly it. And I live in the twenty third, so I'm here for it, here for it. Former Chief Paul Paige, and I really appreciate your time today.
Thank you so much for coming in. And this is great work coming out of the Common Sense too. And Ross Kimisky is now an economic fellow there, so that's kind of some I got one more question, Mandy. Can you ask if the use of pot has any connection to the use of hard drugs? Is that something you guys have in terms of the Gateway drug situation. Yes, and I would encourage folks to take a look at that most recent report from Mitch Morrisey. It's very detailed.
It shows exactly in line graphs how the impact of marijuana has had on the more dangerous, more serious the types of drugs that have killed, poisoned so many of our fellow coloradoms.
I put a link to this report about a war, but you can also that's going to take your right to Common Sense's.
Website, so you can go ahead and check it out there. We will talk again in the future, sir.
We will be right back. Keep it on KOA.
Donald Trump is supposed to be speaking at the Department of Justice. Do we ever figure out who' speaking now? Is it still a female?
Yes, it's probably Pam Bondy. Go ahead and bring it.
Up you all.
I promise she was speaking. We turn it up for the Yeah. No, she's speaking right now. That is her.
So we're gonna so have two angel moms here today.
You know what, well, just when Trump comes on, I want to hear that. No offense to Pam BONDI, who I actually like. Well, she's got a rash of you know what for not releasing the Jeffrey Epstein files. Mandy, you can always text us at the common Spirit health text line. This texter said, Mandy, what state bill is it that doesn't allow cities to have harder penalties than the state? Want to email my state reps? So ridiculous. I don't know, but I will find out. I will
find out, Mandy. George loses some points with me. He and Darren Weekley are too fond of social media. In the camera, they love to tuote their own horns and showboat. I will just have their back for just a moment. I would much rather have law enforcement at the forefront on social media talking about fitting criminals in jail, and Douglas County does a great job on their social media of telling you how they arrested someone.
And why they arrested them. I love it.
As a Douglas County resident, I want criminals to go. You know what, I'm not coming down here. I actually I think it was the Parker Police Department, maybe Castle Rock. I can't remember which one because I follow them both on social media, and they actually had a video of a guy getting thrown into the backseat of a car, and he said, you know this wouldn't happen in Denver. It only happens in Douglas County. And I was like, yes, sir, you are correct. Take your happy, little stealing self back
to Denver. Then, Mandy, there's no way that marijuana is worse than alcohol. It's just that alcohol has been around legally for so wrong, so long, that people don't even consider it a drug anymore.
I actually agree with this. I am.
I am increasingly disgusted by mommy wine culture.
I've talked about it here. I don't like it. I don't think it's healthy.
I don't think children need to be seeing that behavior modeled when you have kids. Zach, you don't have kids, yeah, Zackson for a right a Rod went to get some sleep when you have kids, I mean for me anyway. And maybe other parents didn't feel this way. And actually I've seen other parents' parent differently, so I know not
everybody feels this way. But when I had the que and even when Chuck and I got married and Ryan and Phil were already there, they were in their teens, it became really important to me to model good behavior around them. Right at the time, I was still a smoker, and I never smoked around the boys, not once, not ever. And then once I decided, or we decided, that we're gonna try and have a baby, I stopped and that was it and I never started again. But I still
tried to model good behavior around the kids. You know, the old saying is is that kids learn a lot more by watching you.
Than what you say.
And that is so incredibly true. And I am not a perfect parent. I will be the first to admit it, but I have always been conscious. I never cursed around my daughter until fairly recently when she deserved it, you know. I mean, she's a fifteen year old teenager now, and she cursed in front of me, Zach, she dropped the S word, and then as soon as she came out of her mouth, she went, oh.
Like that.
And we had a conversation about time and place when it comes to cursing, Like, you know, make sure there's no adults around.
I know you and your friends curse.
I'm not an idiot, but make sure that you are respectful of the people around you and not polluting their airwaves.
But I think to myself, like.
I want to model good behavior and I want law enforcement and prosecutors in my neighborhood to stand up on social media and say, if you come here, we're going to arrest you and you are going to go to jail.
So it may be annoying, but unfortunately this is the world we live in. I how can I say this?
Jelly despise the fact that I have to have a social media presence, but ultimately I have to have a social media presence. It's impossible to do my job without a social media presence.
Now.
Unfortunately, I got into radio because I didn't want.
People to know who I was straight. That is legit, one hundred percent true when I was a kid.
Here's a little radio background for you and guys, there's way more important things we could talk about. If you want to text me and ask me anything, tell me what you want me to talk about. It's been a crazy week.
You can text me on the Common Spirit Health text line at five six six nine.
Oh, but.
I completely lost my train of thought.
What was I talking about, Zach, You were listening, You were paying attention, or at least you were pretending to.
Dang it, It'll come back to me in a minute.
Oh that was Parker Peadie that posted the guy getting arrested in the back seat, Mandy, Aurora has sucked for fifty four years of my life in Denver, and I will never go there. Unfortunately. Now I will not go to downtown Denver. Even as a Denver resident. I go to a lot of stuff in Aurora.
There.
When I say I love the restaurants in Aurora, I'm not kidding because Aurora, unlike Denver, you can go to an incredible little mom and pop shop that is not going to cost you fourteen million dollars.
You're not going to walk out feeling like you got robbed.
You're going to be supporting a local family, probably an immigrant family, and you get this incredible meal for a reasonable price from around the world. We have all of this international food that it's like and people are like, oh, I weant go to Aurora.
Well, you're missing out. Now. There are some scary neighborhoods in Aurora.
We already know this scary, but I avoid those and I just go to the places and enjoy the great parts of Aurora. And this is why I'm watching that city council. This is why I'm watching There are already a ton of people who have announced for the city council race coming up. I'm telling you, Aurora, you've got to vote on this, and you better vote very, very carefully.
Mandy.
We tried outlying alcohol once in this country and it led to higher crime rates. Oh, don't get me wrong. I am never I am a one hundred percent posed to outlying any vice. I'm opposed outlying cigarettes, even though I think they're gross.
As a former smoker, I am.
I'm opposed outlying alcohol, even though as I get older, I find it to be very destructive. As the win Yogi shows up to do a segment on bubbles Pree, it's like anything in moderation, right, but unfortunately we see a lot of things happen bad because of people that can't do moderation. Of people that can't or for whatever reason, alcohol controls them instead of the other way around. It can be extremely destructive in families. It can often lead
to domestic violence situations. Not everybody, of course, but it's just it's not.
Great for us.
And I don't like the sort of cool like let's just make it super awesome.
For a mom to drink a bottle of wine every night. It's not healthy at all.
So in any case, that's where we It's not Saudi Aurora, stop it right now. Aurora has way more ethnicities than arab They have a burgeoning African community that has amazing restaurants.
It was just so much going on in Aurora. Mandy, who's the better driving instructor? You or Chuck?
Well, when our first Ryan got old enough to learn how to drive, he went out with Chuck. Once Chuck walked back in the door and said, I cannot do that. So I got to teach Ryan how to drive. Phil just seemed to know how to drive through osmosis.
He was easy.
And Q.
Has not gotten your learners permit yet because she doesn't want to. And I we finally put the hammer down, made an appointment. She's going to be doing that soon.
Uh, who's the wait? North Blend is getting really bad. Prime wise guys.
When you invite a bunch of people in the country and don't vet any of them and one of them happens to be a Venezuelan gang that decides that Denver, Colorado is the place they want to call home.
Of course it's going to increase crime.
We've now had in Highland's Ranch three burglaries where the houses were cut off from the Internet. They used to WiFi jammers so none of their alarm systems worked.
The houses were.
Ransacked and one homeowner came home three in like two days. Crime is everywhere now and we have the delightful I think delightful immigration policies to blame for at least a bit of it.
Uh.
Mandy, you were talking about working in radio for an anonymous person.
I don't even remember what the story was. Now, dagit, Mandy.
I agree with you on almost everything, but you are obnoxious. Sorry, I'll come to that. I'm fine with that better than being boring, because being boring in this job is a death now. Oh, Mandy, you were talking about your approval of Brocolo loving the limelight when you lost your train of thought. Now I had already moved past that. I think, what are your favorite mom and pop restaurants in Aurora?
You know what I'll do, because a couple of mine have closed they did not quite make it out of COVID intact.
I'll make a list. Ooh ooh, I have an idea. I have an idea brewing.
We could do a Mandy Connell listener takeover of certain restaurants on certain days. Ross does this on occasion where we just say, like Thursday at six, we're gonna meet here. That would be fun. C ever drank or vaped as far as you know. Well, the queue did try beer with us in Belgium, cause you know, we were making Belgian waffles with beer. And she tried three different beers. One of them was a cherry beer that tasted exactly like cherry soda.
It got the thumbs up.
The next one was an ipa that tasted like a glass fill of grass clippings.
That was a big thumb down. And the last one was some kind of peach thing or something.
And she was like, Eh, she's not interested in vaping because I constantly talk about how much money I just wasted smoking. God, that still just chaps my hide. Not that I would have anything responsible with it, but I shouldn't.
Have spit it on that.
Free speech and many other things and values in America, My administration stripped the security clearances of the disgraced intelligence agents who lied about Hunter Biden's laptop from Hell. We revoked the clearances of deranged Jack Smith, Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, and the crooked Law firms that aided their partisan persecutions, and I went through it. These are state and city courts,
and the corruption is unbelievable. We also terminated the clearances of the Biden crime family and Joe Biden himself.
He didn't deserve it.
In fact, he was essentially found guilty, but they said he was incompetent and therefore let's not find him guilty. I guess nobody knows what that ruling was, but I didn't want any part of it. I think I would have rather been found guilty than what they found with him. They said he didn't know what the hell he.
Was doing, and therefore he's let him go. I said, you know, I'd rather be convicted, Pam. I think that that was I said, please convict me.
Don't say that. I pardoned hundreds of political prisoners who had been grossly mistreated. We removed the senior FBI officials who misdirected resources to send SWAT teams after grandmothers and Jay six hostages.
And it was a great honor for me to fire.
I will tell you this, a great honor to fire James call me a great, great honor.
That was nothing.
That was no better day a lot of people said, oh, that's too bad, you did that, and they said that's going to be and you know what, a year later they said that actually saved the administration because a level of corrupt things that we learned after that turned out to be that they were doing, in fact, really bad things. He was a terrible person, did terrible things and persecuted people, and all in the guys.
Are being an angel, but he wasn't an angel. We created a brand.
New DOJ task force, an anti Christian bias, and under Director of Patel, we're getting the FBI agents out of the headquarters in Washington, DC and back on the streets in pursuit of dangerous criminals.
Where they belong and where they want to be.
And you know, you have that big FBI building, and it's a very big building, and they were going to build an FBI headquarters three hours away in Maryland, a liberal state. But that has no bearing on what I'm about to say. But we're going to stop it. I'm not going to let that happen. We're going to build another big FBI building right where it is, which would have been the right place, because the FBI and the DOJ have to be near each other.
You can't. That's one thing I did learn from this persecution. The FBI and the DOJ work together.
In my case, they work together for bad purposes, but they do. They were awas together. So how can you have one that's three hours away? But one thing I said to Cash, Well, we're going to get a great building built.
It's going to be a magnificent building. He said, So we don't need that kind of room. I said, what do you mean?
He said, I'm just going to take a old Department of Commerce building that's about twenty five percent the size, and that's what I need. We're going to have the best staff that you've ever seen, and that's what I need. It's in a nice location, but.
I don't need that big building.
Why don't you just sell the site to somebody and we're going to be very happy and they want to have far fewer people.
But we also want to have them in DC.
And if for no other reason, we like having law enforcement walking the streets of our capital because when the bad guys are out there and they see.
There's an FBI agent, that's the.
Ultimated law enforcement and they're not going to be acting so bad we're leaning up our city. We're leaning up this great capital and we're not going to have crime. I'm not going to stand for crime. And we're going to take the graffiti down. And we're already taking the tents down and we're working.
With the administration.
And if the administration can't do the job we're going to take we're going to have to take it back and run it through the federal government. But we hope the administration is going to be able. So far, they've been doing very well. The mayor's been doing a good job. We said there are tents galore right opposite the State Department. They have to come down, and they took them down right away, and so so far, so good. But we want to have a capital that can be the talk
of the world. When Prime Minister Modi of India, when the President of France and all of these people, the head of a Prime minister of the United Kingdom, they all came to see me over the last week and a half. And when they come in, I like to had I had the route run. I didn't want to have them see tents. I didn't want to have them see graffiti.
I didn't want to have.
Them see broken barriers and pot holes in the roads, and we.
Had it looking beautiful.
And then we're going to do that for the city and we're going to have a crime free capital. When people come here, they're not going to be mugged or shot or raped, and they're going to have a crime free capital again. It's going to be cleaner and better and safer than it ever was. And it's not going to take us too long.
All right, we are going to dip out right now.
I'm not hearing lent new stuff right now, and I'm not knocking what the President is saying. I'm just I'm not hearing new stuff come.
Out right now.
We will monitor this on the break and we will be back. I have a thousand things on the blog that I had a thousand things this week that we didn't get to, So we may not dip back in, but we'll be back after this. We'll let you know if something good happens.
About the show. Yes, indeedy we had three hours today. It's been glorious. I have squandered quite a bit of it, but that's okay.
Coming up at two thirty the win, Yogi joins us, we've got easter bubbles to talk about, Saint Patrick's day to talk about, and she's been doing a series of wine store reviews. So wherever you are, eventually the win Yogi will be able to tell you to go where to get the wines that we talk about, or just similar wines and help. So that's coming up to two thirty. In the meantime, though, I do want to answer this question because thank you Texter.
When you lost your train of thought.
Earlier, you were about to tell us why, even as a very young person, you preferred radio to TV for a career.
First of all, it never occurred to me to go into television.
I'm gonna be perfectly honest, because I am a giant person. Zach is in for a Rod. A Rod went home.
He had to work in the morning show, so we let him go so we can actually get some sleep. Zach, do you go any TV people? A few? Yeah, Daryld, Tiny aren't they?
Yeah?
They want to They're tiny people. They're like little pocket people.
Right.
So, the few times that I've been on camera on television, and even when I was in my early twenties, I did I worked for a restaurant and I did a television hit with a local television station, and the first thing I noticed was that I am like Godzilla around other television people. I mean, I was a good I'm five ten, so I was like three inches taller than the male anchors, and I was like five inches taller than the female anchors and they were wearing heels. So
I didn't belong there. But radio has always appealed to me because it used to be anonymous.
There was a guy when I was growing up in Jacksonville, Florida. He was the ape Man. I didn't grow up in Jacksonville, grew up in a town adjacent to Jacksonville.
We were part of their radio market and the ape man. Nobody knew who the ape Man was.
He would go.
Into work wearing a gorilla mask and then he would do this wild show like he was one of those early like nineteen seventies, eighties kind of I don't want to say shock jock, because he wasn't as bad as Howard's certain.
But he was really edgy for the time, you know, and nobody knew who the ape Man was. And I was like, that is so freaking cool. You're like a s but you're on the radio.
I mean, think about that for a second, having no one know who you are, and yet everybody knows your voice. And through the years, I will say I have been until the Internet, I was recognized by my voice far more than I was ever recognized for the way I look. Well, now you know, now, I think it's a little bit different.
People look at you on the Internet. They follow you on Facebook, which you should do Mandy Connell or Instagram at the Mandy Connell And I say, this is part of why I hate doing social.
Media, but it's a necessary part of the job now. And for ulsters like me who are in.
Radio meeting with this big muckety mucket I heart the other day is a VP something something in social media something something.
Super guy, super guy.
And I'm sitting in this meeting and I legitimately have no idea what the words coming out of his mouth mean.
I have no idea what the initials mean. I have no idea what language this man is speaking. And I just sat there and I was like, Okay, just nod, just nod and smile and not and smile, and at the end of it, just say, great job, appreciate you so much. And that's what I did. I was like, I have no clue what this man is talking about. But I have a rod. Please, I have a rod, so I don't have to worry about it. Want me to buy you a monkey mask? Lol.
With the Internet, the cat is out of the bag. Nothing I can do about that. So thank you Texter for reminding me of what I was talking about. By the way, we'll make it and ask me anything till the wein yoga gets in here. Five six six nine O is the text line. In the meantime, let's talk about some actual news for just a minute.
I actually have a story on the blog today that I'm genuinely.
Concerned about because we already know that illegal immigrants came across the southern border and told people at the border they wanted to come to Denver because of our immigration policies, namely that they could come here and be pretty much immune for any sort of prosecution. And they knew we were a sanctuary city and that's why they chose Denver. So imagine my surprise and frankly a little bit of upset when I see this headline on Denver.
Seven new Colorado law will fast track.
Process for immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.
Oh yeah, this should go well.
A new Colorado law will speed up the process for new immigrants to obtain their driver's licenses. Colorado already allows they say undocumented I'm going to say illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, but they currently must live in the state for at least two years before qualifying and provide a Social Security or individual taxpayer identification number. Which was signed into law by Governor Jared Pulis in June of
twenty twenty four, it will drop those requirements. So let me just tell you what the bill summary does.
The new bill just signed by Jared Pulis.
It repeals the requirement that the applicant have filed a Colorado resident income tax return. It repealed the requirement that the applicant demonstrate residency in the state for the immediately
preceding two years. It repealed the requirement that the applicant provide a documented Social Security number, which they can't have if they're an illegal immigrant unless they bought it from someone else, or an individual taxpayer identification number, and allowing an applicant to present a passport, consular Identification card, or military ID document from the applicants country of origin that is unexpired or expired less than ten years before the
date of the applicant's application for a driver's license or identifying document.
Now, let me just explain what this does.
This makes den for the place and Colorado the state where you can break into the country illegally for you know, good purposes or bad.
They don't ask.
You can come into colorad and immediately go to a driver's license office and they are going to give you a driver's license, which immediately gives you legitimacy. Now, whether you say or not, it doesn't matter. You already have a legal document from the United States of America that says you are here. So they can then take that driver's license and go wherever they want to do whatever
they want. And the reality is this, there are a lot of really good people who are suffering from economic disasters, mainly because they're coming from socialist South and Central American countries who want to come here to give a better life for themselves for their children. I get that, but there's a certain percentage of these people that are coming over to set up outposts of trendy Arragua or other gangs from Central and South America and we are about
to give them legitimacy immediately. This is going to be a problem going forward as will it should be oh mandy, but no proof of insurance required. Of course, we can't ask for people to actually follow all the laws.
Anyway.
Maybe it's Friday, woohoo. How about some happy stories. I want to see the baby giraffe at the Denver Zoo. Does the little tyke have a name yet? That from Jared and Boulder Jared, good news. You can actually vote on the name of the new baby giraffe at the Denver Zoo, but you got to pay to do it.
It's a fundraiser, you know what.
For though to take caure of the baby giraffe. Best fundraiser ever? I believe it's Denver Zoo dot com.
We'll be right back. Speaking of fire, there was a fire at the airport.
Air American Airlines plane had engine some kind of engine vibration situation trouble. The last thing you want is an engine that's vibrating, because that means something that is spinning has come loose, and that is an absolute disaster, I mean,
not an actual disaster. I shouldn't say it like that because obviously the plane landed, got to the gate, and then caught on fire, which you know, I'm actually kind of surprised because normally, if there's any kind of situation with an airplane where there's any kind of fire, they will back that thing away from the gate.
And they don't appear.
I don't think the jetway was up there, but they do not appear to have backed it up from the gate. But I also from the video that I have on the blog today, you can see it from two different angles. Now, the only reason I say this is because there are going to be more people and I see this online like, oh my gosh, it's so unsafe to fly right now.
No, it's not. You guys, you first of all would be shocked and horrified to find out how often things like this happened. Okay, this is not super unusual. Now, I'll be honest.
In the five and a half years that I flew, my planes never caught on actual fire.
We had smoke in the cabin and stuff like that.
But I'm getting on an airplane this afternoon because I'm going to be broadcasting from training next week, and I'm pretty not the whole week, just in Monday and Tuesday Tuesday, I get to broadcast.
From the actual stadium.
I'm super excited about that, super excited to the Texter, said Mandy. At least the Zoo was smart enough to limit possible names. I would have spent money to submit and vote on the name Tali mattal face, and of course a reference to voting mcboat face, which the Navy was actually going to have to name some kind of craft because everyone voted on that. This is what happens
when you let the internet decide people. When I was pregnant with a queue, I said to Chuck for just a moment, I was like, hey, we should do a poll and let the internet pick the name of our child.
And he just he did that thing.
I think everybody has this in their lives. You have that person who doesn't say anything. They just stand there and they stare at you, right, just that dead stare for a good like thirty forty seconds. And I was like, yeah, that's probably not a good idea. After I said it out loud, Oh, let's do what's going on in.
The up speech.
There's act somebody said Trump is making a bizarre speech right now, let's check it out.
We're all straight into the USA and open border.
We had an open border policy.
Anybody could come in, no matter what you were, no matter where you came from, no matter what you look like, no matter what you were doing, no matter what you did, no matter how many people you have murdered, you could come right into our country.
Runs right now, walk in the streets. Yeah, again, not wrong.
We're joined today by Tammy Nobles, who's twenty year old daughter, Kayla, was attacked in her home three years ago, horrifically assaulted and strangled to death by an illegal alien MS thirteen monster set loose into our country under the open border Biden regime. Kayla was one of countless American victims ripped away from their families by the.
Open This is just more examples of the negative consequences.
Kayla's stepfather Jered, So, maybe.
We missed the bizarre part. Bring that back down, Bring it back down, and I'd love it.
I'll go over all that on Monday. I'll have time to die. I dissect the whole thing on Monday. And again, it's not that I you know, don't want to hear Donald Trump say things, but if it's breaking.
News or something new, then yes, we can do it. I have a favor to ask from you listeners.
Dough has canceled a bunch of leases in Colorado, and here's what I need citizen journalists to do. The list of all of the properties is linked today on the blog. Are friends at Fox thirty one have a list. If you are anywhere around any of these addresses, go see what's up.
Are there any people in these addresses? What are these businesses or offices? What are they?
Because some of them are big, eighty six thousand square feet in Denver off Broadway.
So I'm curious if you've got time and you've got the inclination.
I know there's a couple down south in Douglas County that I'm going to go check out.
I just I just want to know what we're canceling leases for. I'm a posed to it. By the way.
I just wonder know if people are gonna be working in their cars now, because that would be a little inconvenient. The wine Yogi up next. We're talking bubbles for Easter and delicious Irish cream for Saint Patrick's Day. A new wine store review, and she has brought in a unicorn product. It is low car bread that is freaking delicious. We'll do all that next, wine Yogi Cristo Alfonso to join us.
And right around the corner, two things are happening. Number One, Saint Patrick's Day is Monday, and we could have spent a lot of time talking about fancy Irish whiskeys. But let's be real, you're just gonna drink crappy green beer. Probably why not not?
You?
Now with you in the greater collective sense of you, people don't. Here's the thing? What is it about?
Because Irish whiskey doesn't suck? Right, it's not horrible coffee, but it doesn't get a lot of street cred. You know, it's definitely you think about beer. You think about, you know, green beer. You don't necessarily think about a fine Irish whiskey.
The green beer reminds me too much of the Green River in Chicago. So that's why it's kind of.
Already passed for me.
I don't like what nevermind, I won't say what it looks like coming out the other end anyway.
Wine Yogi is doing a couple of things on.
Today's blog that I've linked at my blog at Mandy's blog dot com. But you can always find her at Iamthwineyogi dot com. But let's talk about first the liquor store reviews or wine store reviews, because this is something I said, you know, Crystal, we talk about all these great wines, but then people will email me and say, where.
Can I get this in Nevada? Where can I get this in Aurora? Where can I get this? Where? I have no idea?
So I have set the wine Yogi on it, and she's begun her reviews of wine stores.
And I thought it was very kind that you mentioned that you went into.
A quote wine store in Aurora, but we're so unimpressed you decided to not even name them.
Well, so specialty is in the name, and it was.
There was nothing special other than how they stored some of their cheap Chardinay.
And that's fine. There are.
You have liquor stores out there that they serve.
A demographic and and God bless them, they're just not the kind of place.
They're unsophisticated wine drinkers, if they even drinking. It sounds like an insult, but it's really not, because at one point I was an unsophisticated wine drinker. And you develop as you try new things, and you go to wine tastings and you learn more about wine, but everybody starts somewhere.
I think this is more just kind of the business model. If you kind of think of your convenience stores. When it comes to a grocery store, they have like your basics, and you can run into the loaf and jug or whatever the convenience store is you need to run into.
You can grab what you need. You know, it may not be what you normally buy, but if you're in a pinch that that will work. There you go.
So that's how I kind of regard.
A lot of these places. But I had had I hopes.
The general area that this was at seemed like kind of a based off the restaurants and the living situation, like with the apartments and kind of the homes. I was like, oh, I think this will this will be pretty nice, and had great reviews, fantastic.
Reviews, and I just walked in. I was like, wow, I know exactly who your distributor is and you only have the one for wine.
And so I walked in and I pretty much did a quick loop around the store and walked out. So then I started googling somewhere else, and that's how I came across mister B's over at the Stanley Market and it was pretty close by, and so I was like, okay, I have to cleanse my palette in my eyes of what I saw because they were stored. They did actually have chardonnay sitting in a window with nothing, no type of sun protection.
Just to let you guys know, light degrades most liquids, yes, okay, it degrades beer, It degrades wine, It degrades milk, It degrades a lot of stuff.
So light is the enemy of anything you pour, especially wine.
And especially something that's in a white, clear bottle, right like a chardonnay, and it's going to just chard nation, uppy brown. If you've seen bottle shock, that was kind of the issue behind the whole story was what.
Is bottle shock?
Bottle shock is when you bottle wine. And first of all, it's a great movie. Absolutely, it's a documentary.
It is not no, it's Chris Pine, Bill Pullman.
Oh my gosh, you have to watch it.
It is so good.
Should have downloaded it for the plane.
Oh and.
So snape from Harry Potter Alan Okay, So it's about the great blind of nineteen seventy six. First of all, it is an amazing it's called Bottle Shock.
It is an amazing wine movie.
Wait stop, what was the great You said it like I should know, like it was War of the Roses or something great bottle what was that?
Okay?
So the Great Blind of nineteen seventy six was the bi centennial obviously of us Steve Spurrier, who is portrayed by Alan Rickman.
It was football coach. No, okay, this is this is tracking a wine snob kind of person.
He was not happy with Alan Rickman's portrayal of him, by the way, in this movie, of course, but he was an expat brit living in Paris and his Parisian nobody really kind of paid any attention to him because he's a brit and the you know, French wine snobs thought, well, you're a brit you don't you know know anything about wine.
Well, you don't know anything about blow exactly we.
Know about wine.
So he came up with kind of a marketing idea to have a great blind tasting. Somebody told him you need to go check out these wines. These crazy farmers in Napa are making some amazing wine. So he goes out and so the story is basically how he kind of discovers Chateau Montelena, Oh California wine wine brings several wines, so stags stags leap. It was the cap sab that beat all of the French Bordeaux and they're red wines of blind.
Tasting and these were these were.
Master psalms, chefs, Michelin.
Star restaurant type stuff.
I mean, these were the kreme de la krem of of French wine that were judging it. And Chateau Montelena chardonnay is the one that won for the white. They couldn't believe it actually redid the whole because they did not believe it. They thought that it was fixed somehow. So they actually had another blind tasting. They're blind blinds and America. Still one's hilarious.
You know, the French ship in service to watch this movie so good. It's so good.
Okay, So tell me about mister Bees.
Mister Bees is a great I would call this more of a specialty boutique wine store.
They have three locations.
They the the guys there were awesome and super friendly and helpful, and they shared with me that the one in the Golden Triangle is probably more specialty wine. If you are, you know, desperate to find something specific, those folks can probably help you out even more. But it's just a local owned wine and liquor store. Great bourbon selection, fantastic, just spirits and craft beers.
I just want to interject here and say this, A great wine or liquor store should should operate like this, and you should feel comfortable as a newbie knowing nothing. So go in and say, look, here's what I'm serving, here's what I kind of like. Can you direct me into the right area?
Can you help me?
A great liquor store will do that, and knowledgeable wine people are there, and most of the time, knowledgeable wine people who work in a wine store they want to share information with you.
They want to help you find.
Something that you absolutely love. They're all very motivated by a love of wine. So don't be afraid to ask for help. It's really that simple, it is.
And you know, these guys were all great. They were because when I walk in, I know what I'm looking at, and so I don't.
Really need a lot of assistance.
But then when I started, I want you walk in, like, excuse me, alp over here.
Well, when I start asking more pointed questions, Hey, do you carry any Colorado wine? Colorado wines? I never heard of such and such and things like that, So do you have your code question? I do have some a few questions. I ask about tastings.
I ask about.
Specials because most reputable places are going to give you like case discounts, and in this case, mister Bees gives you if you buy six bottles, you get.
A ten percent discount right by a case. I think it's fifteen percent.
I listed it on the block.
But they also have they do offer a while not a steady set wine tasting, complimentary tasting. On Fridays they usually are tasting something. So today they're doing something with Avalanche Brewing. So it's it's kind of a little bit more variety because it's not just solely focused on wine. But yeah, fantastic wine selection. I ended up picking up a Sicilian read that I had a grape I've never heard of, and so because Italy has like thousands of fit is fine for us.
So I was pretty stoked about that and picked one of those up. So let's talk about easters coming up right around the corner. You say.
We already talked about Saint Patrick's say will come by to cool Swan in just a moment.
You brought in a couple of bubbles today, and you know I love the bubbles. Yes, and they are both.
Oh you know why I like bubbles. You know, I like sparkling wine. It feels like summer and celebration and fun. There's nothing stodgy or boring. It's all like it feels like a like a celebratory beverage. It feels like you've been resurrected or just Jesus whatever, it's fine, be born or whatever. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine.
But so yeah, no, these are and I know we're probably going to get a text of she only brings in Colorado wine. Well, I just happened to have been last month for my birthday in Uay for the Winter Wine Festival, and I had these two particular bubbles, and I do know you love bubbles, and they're from places I've never poured for you before.
The first one is a Blanca blanc.
It's actually when you said unicorn product, I thought you were talking about the load Eye wine, but I actually like because I don't like load Eye wine. But this is a blanc to blanc, so one hundred percent shardina coming out of lod Eye that Sutcliff Vineyards down.
In Cortez has. This is freaking delicious. It is beautiful. They have front range distribution, you know.
They self distribute and you can have you can get wine shipped for them. I have to follow up with them if they do. If they do have front range all the way up here, so TBD, I have to reach out to them because I do want to go see this vineyard down in Cortes because it just looks absolutely stunning.
So somebody just asked, what's your favorite Colorado wine? Really depends on what I'm having, Like, actually, give me like.
Top three, top five, not in any particular order. Just give me a lot of the wines you love in And here's the thing. I love that Crystal brings in Colorado wines because there are a lot of wines on the Western Slope that don't get a lot of play over here. And I love supporting our local economy. I
love small growing this economy. And anybody can tell you about a nap of wine or an old world wine, but I want to hear about people who are getting it done here in Colorado, so I'm not I've never said only bring Colorwao wines, but there's some great wines that are being made here now.
There are. In fact, I just poureded this Buckle sparkling rose.
So buckle Is Family Wines is out of Gunnison. Joe and Chamma Buckle have been making wine for that are part of twenty years he has.
Joe has ties to Cuckcliffe and yours.
They're the ones down in Cortez that made the Blanc to Blanc sparkling wine. I am loving some of buckles wines right now. We did a wine maker dinner at the Western Hotel in Ura on Valentine's Day and we started with this rose and it's a Sarah and Bigner.
It is absolutely.
She's like, oh it paired.
So it paid was just about everything we had because I kept replenishing because I was just I was overboard about this particular wine and it just was so beautiful and it does not disappoint even when I you know, because that's romantic. You're in Ura, You're at this beautiful hotel and restaurant.
So when I try it a second time, oh yes, at home, yes, it stands out not just locationally, it's not.
Just a memory type thing or yeah, location experience. So really enjoy a.
Lot of Buckle. Buckle.
Also, I have been known to buy winemakers out of certain wines that I like to roll to goo is from Carboy or from Chill Switch. I've been known to just how many cases do you have left? I'll take them all. And the same thing with Buckle with their son. So that's a red wine that they had that survived the twenty twenty early freeze that killed most of the grapes. I ruined the crop in twenty twenty up in Grand Valley Palisade area.
But so I love Buckle. I love Storm Cellar for my whites and rosees. She'll switch for my big juicy reds. So let me ask this question because it.
Came up earlier and I want to get it in. Have you spoken to any of the wine shops that you know? You're very well connected to the wine gallery in Colorado Springs. What are they worried about with these tariffs? Have they begun to to talk to their distributors? Have there been any discussion about what that's going.
To look like?
So we've been dealing with a lot of issues already in the wine industry. Pretty much since COVID, there's been a backlog of just wine making in general, because Europe was a little bit slower to kind of start opening things back up.
So when you're especially talking about old World wines.
There's been already a shortage of wine, if you will. There's also issues with bottles, actual glass to make the bottles, the world lines to go into, so all of that has already been happening most of I would say, less
about tariffs, more about people watching their spending. People are not wanting and I would say probably prior to the new administration, people were already starting to pull back their willingness to spend a lot of money on more expensive lines and kind of going more with the ten to
fifteen dollar price point. So like, for example, most of these wine stores, you have a plenty of stock because people are not necessarily oh so they're staying, and people are sitting and not choosing, they're choosing like to spend their money on that.
Would it be wise to go ahead and stock up on the wines you like? So if they are old World wines.
I always stock up on any wine I like, especially if I find one that kind of uh you know, it's tic tac toe a winner. And that's that's just how I am programmed. Though I don't just buy one bottle at a time. If I like a wine, right, I'm going to go I'm going to go in and buy a few of it. That way I can lay them down, especially if they're red wines, so I can lay them down and have them later.
We have a couple of wine stores for you to check out.
We've got Casque and Craft off thirty eighth in tay Hoone. They said they have some very interesting wine options. And then this one says mandy and wine Yogi. I was driving uber and drove the owner of Persona Wine in Boulder, which is a natural wine store, tell us the natural wines versus commercial ones. What's the difference? So, basically, because we're almost out a time, we want to play of the day.
Yeah.
So natural winds, like with anything that's labeled natural, it really just depends on your definition of natural.
Right, So what you want to look for if you.
Are concerned about things getting into your wine, you want to look for certified, organic, certified, biodynamic.
Uh.
In fact, uh Some of the wines I'm tasting this weekend at the Wine Gallery are certified organic and biodynamic, which means sustainably farmed. Natural is just kind of like when you it's a marketing orders. It's a marketing work, so you really want to start kind of diping down into figuring out what do they mean by natural.
It could be harvesting by moonlight. That's how I like to harvest.
Yeah, naked in the moonlight. That's when I harvest my grapes. That's not happening. I don't eat grapes, is like eating eyeballs. Chuck has come in because he's pick me up and take.
Me to the airport with him, and he's going to try He's gotta try this the super fuw.
You know, oh my gosh, we haven't even gotten this crystal broad in this low car bread.
Babe, you're not even ready. You're not even ready for this bread. Okay, try oh no, try to croissant first.
So we had a we had hero Bread croissant cheddar biscuit hero Bread dot com.
It is, oh my god, damn bread. But if you're looking for low carbread that actually tastes and feels like bread, they have cracks of code and it iss like, what what is it again? I know it's so expensive, babe, but we're gonna order someone bo.
She when you used to do the show from home, she would come in, So come downstairs and have a shmortgage sport.
Yeah, and everything she brought in. There's even stuff I didn't like. I cried, because you bring in stuff that I like, and you do get a discount if you subscribe.
Yes, here, we'll make that a hero bread if you're looking for low car bread. I'm so good, I told Crystal earlier. I said, I kind of feel like this is going to be like frozen yogurt in the eighties and nineties, where we were all told frozen yogurt was healthy and then we just all got fat from eating frozen yogurt because.
It was by yeah gcby Baby's so good.
Anyway. Now it's time for the most exciting segment on the radio on its guide in the world of the day.
Okay, we got to do a speed round here because we're almost out of time. What is our dad joke of the day, Please, Zach Dad that music out just the bitch.
Yeah, there you go, Dad Joke of the day today.
What's the difference between a well dressed man on a unicycle and a poorly dressed man on a bicycle?
Am?
I don't know? Oh? She was so close attire?
Boo.
What's the day's word of the day? Got a good word of the day today? Bamboozle.
Oh, bamboozle means to puzzle over somebody's eyes.
To fool hm, bamboozled seem from him too?
Yeah?
Exactly correct? All right. Today's trivia question.
Who invented the allie, a skateboarding trick in which the skater makes the board pop into the air by kicking the tail of the board down while jumping. I'm gonna say Tony Hawk because he's able.
Only one I know and I'm wrong. Just to let you know.
Guy named Ali, Yes Alan Olie Gilfriend pioneered the trick in nineteen seventy seven. The ali is now a staple move in skateboarding, and often one of the first tricks new skaters learn.