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Welcome also lovecome to a Friday edition of the show. Altogether now woo all together now Anthony who we knew May a day?

And it hasn't even gotten started yet.

So I don't know if you guys have if you don't listen to Rossa's show and now you're joining me, did anything happen? Well? I figured I would just well, let's do the blog first, let's knock out the busy work, and then we'll get into what's.

Not even on the blog.

Because I finished the blog, I would to take a shower, get ready for work, get ready to come into the office. I get in my car and listen to the Roskiminski Show and I'm like, oh my god, what happened? So I had to stop my car, pull over, pull it up on Twitter, where of course it already was, and watch the conflagration between Voldemore. I call him Voldemore, but

We need nuclear in Colorado.

The wingman takes the stage about the Epstein files release why we need to know who is working where in the federal government, the revolving door between the FDA and drug companies. Go outside, you'll feel better. What is your emotional support movie? Get your high school diploma for fifty bucks tgif everbody, how do you not talk to your ninety five year old father for a couple of months about Andrew Tait? Scrolling? Scrolling? Europe has overseen its own demise,

And he did an exha Bristins.

We decided the change of fitting, but he did into this right now is the list. He's talking about the failure of Vladimir Putin when it came to priorities fires.

I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country gas.

But he's a president.

It's a president with respect.

I think it's disrespectful for you to.

Come to the Old Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now, you guys are going.

Around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.

You should be thanking the president and going to bring it into this ODI into Ukraine that you stayble thro those have I have been to come along.

I actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you.

Bring people, you bring them on.

A propagy edda to our mister president part do you disagree.

That you've had problems of bringing people.

In your military and do you think that it's respectful honest to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your kind.

An old question less.

Up from the big shortcoastal roles.

You in the warm.

Everybody has forbs given you, but you have my SoC and don't feel out.

But your field is in the future.

Now, let me just stop here, because what you have here is jd Vance playing the role of attack dog, and knowing what we know about Donald Trump, and knowing what we know about jd Vance, I'm just gonna say zero percent chance jd Vance does not go after President Zelensky unless he was told by President Trump to do so. My guess is is before this meeting, some version of Trump saying you're the bad cop. I'm the good cop. You bring the wood, I make everything better. That's the

I'll you because there no position to dictate that.

I remember what we're doing.

You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're gonna feel very good. We're gonna feel very good and very strong till each And you're right now not in a very good position.

You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position.

And he's happens to be right about the were at the beginning of the war. Not in a good positions.

You don't have the.

Cards right now, which is absolutely right.

The Oneski is holding like a one, a seven, a jack, a ten, you know, not of a match. But he came in argumentative, and here I'll let them continue with us. You start having cards right now. You're you're playing cards.

You're playing you're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

See you gambling with world War three. You're gambling with World War three.

And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country that's back to you.

Far more than a lot of people said they should.

Have have you said thank you once this entire meeting, in this entire.

DA and you said, they live today, and you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.

Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country is you've.

Seen that if you will speak or lawfully involve the war, you're.

Not speaking loudly. Now that again another missed opportunity by President Zelensky, who again has no leverage. The Europeans can't bail him out. The Europeans are funding both sides of the war. Right now, you guys, I have an article on the blog and it's basically about how Europe has basically overseen it's becoming more irrelevant, right and I want

Your counts in big trouble. You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble.

I know you're not winning all. You're not winning this.

You have a damn good chance of belding out.

Okay, because of.

Other bread we have seen Inawa conference stays strong from the Larry begin on, the war wouldn't be a little and we are sayingle I said, sans you.

Have you haven't been alone.

These he gave you, said, stupid president, three hundred and fifty billion dollars.

We gave your military equipment. You and your men are brave, but they had to use our military money.

Miss if you didn't have a military equipment.

Now, I'm just gonna stop it there, because you're beginning to get the the vibe right. This did not go well for President Zelensky at all. They ended up canceling the rest of the diplomatic portion of the meeting and he left, and as Ross pointed out, in a Chevrolet, you know, with a little Ukrainian flag on it. This is this is fascinating, and people on X are just freaking out, and they're freaking out based on partisan lines. If you are on the left, your standard line is how can Trump do this?

This is the worst thing ever.

And if you're on the right, you're like, yeah, about time, About time somebody shut them up. Yeah, yep, here's what I think about all this. And you can text me on the Common Spirit Health text line at five sixty six nine. Oh, by the way, Brett Beher is supposed to have an interview tonight with President Zelensky, and as of right now on X he's saying it is still on. So yeah, you can watch him tonight defend whatever he thinks he's going to do. But there's a couple of

No.

Oh, yes, I did see. Oh, go ahead and read it. You have it in front of end of you. I saw it on This was sent out by the White House very very shortly ago. Right before the show started. Go ahead and read the statement from the White House. Yeah, I'm from Donald Trump himself.

He says, I have determined that President Zelensky is not ready for peace if America is involved, because he feels our involvement gives him a big advantage in the goiations.

I don't want advantage. I want peace.

He disrespected the United States of America and it's cherished oval office.

He can come back when he is ready for peace.

All right.

So, if you are a Donald Trump and you want to show the world exactly who Ukrainian President Zelensky is, this was the perfect way to do it. Bait the guy and then wait for him to rise to debate, and he truly did, truly did.

So.

Now, how does Zelensky go back to Ukraine? And I said this off the air, and I really think there's part of this. You know, when you are showered with adoration from all camps for a very long time, it's very difficult not to let that go to your head, very difficult. And I think that over the last three years he's been treated like a rock star. Zelensky has been treated like the greatest thing ever. Because the enemy

I mean, come on.

But the reality is is that maybe he's not a great guy. Maybe Vladimir Putin is a horrible person, but maybe so is Zelensky. Maybe there are no good winners here. I don't know.

I don't know.

I do think, and I said this on Ross's show earlier, I don't think that you can underestimate everybody thinks that Donald Trump is just working on the fly, and like everything he does is just I'm making this up.

I'm just you know, going as I don't believe that.

You know, in the first round, in Trump one point zero, I would have said, yeah, you can make an argument for that. But in this go round, I think everything he is doing is calculated for an end result that we may not be privy to yet. And I think perhaps what he's doing by sucking up to Vladimir Putin is trying to peel Russia away from their growing alliance with China, because this administration has been very open and very clear in believing that China is the biggest geopolitical foe.

China is their friend.

But as soon as they don't, as soon as they're not useful anymore, then boom, they are not going to be as close to Russia. And if China decides to be aggressive with Taiwan, we've got to have all hands on deck to contain China. We don't have the manpower, we don't have the navy, we don't have the military right now to go to battle with China, and China knows it and we know it.

Now.

Just ticking off the rest of the world. I don't think that's productive either. A couple interesting things, and I don't have these soundbites, but I heard them when I was on my way in as I was listening to all this longer press conference that went on quite a long time. Trump's status when it comes to NATO has always been in the first term, in this term, that he wants to be a part of NATO as long as the other NATO nations pull their weight.

And I feel the exact same way.

I'm tired of being the world's policeman and nobody ever. You know how many people from the UK came over and helped the people in North Carolina after a flood, You know, I just we don't get back what we put out there in many many ways, and we are bankrupting ourselves helping other nations while we've got people in our own nation that are struggling. And it's the point Howard's like, wait a minute, why are we doing this?

Why should we?

And I think that's a reasonable position. So I think there's a lot of different moving pieces here.

I think there's a.

Lot of different moving parts that when you look at it in isolation, you look at this blow up in the White House between President Zelensky and JD.

Vance and isn't it Trump? You look at this, and if you look at that in a vacuum.

You think, holy crap, that's terrible, but it cannot be seen in a vacuum. There's there's all of these other parts that are moving around at the same time. It's getting NATO to live up to their commitments to fund a force that is worth having. You know what we just I don't know, and I didn't talk about this, and I just read about it yesterday, So I'm sorry if I missed it. Because there's been so much coming out of the White House, I'm missing some things.

But I don't know if you guys.

Knew this, But we withdrew from the World Health Organization and I'm fine with that. After what they did in COVID. They ran cover for China the entire frickin' time. They lied about where that virus came from the entire time

Why is that?

And I really believe that Donald Trump is tired of seeing us and he says it all the time, being taken advantage of, taken advantage of, taken advantage of. And that's what he sees happening with NATO. It's what he sees when he has a Ukrainian president who was stupid enough to come and campaign for Joe Biden instead of remaining neutral in a presidential race because he did not foresee that Donald Trump could be president again. Oh man,

I wore out that cassette tape.

Wore it out.

Do that later in the show. But when we get back, I want to tell you why.

I'm actually kind of happy that this whole thing happened in front of the cameras, in front of reporters, And it's funny that people are so apoplectic, right They're like, oh my god, this is sigit breach up de Korum, Oh hew, can this stand? It's absolutely terrible?

Hell can we even for a second allowed this kind of thing to go on?

Well, you know what, what, how's it been working for us in the past compared to what happened today? If more quote diplomacy was handled in this fashion, I think would be a lot better off. I'll explain it all on the other side of this break. Right after this, you should be thanking the president had to bring it into this color.

Let me into Ukraine that you say, what problems we have?

I have been to come on.

I have actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people.

You bring them on a propaganda tour.

Mister president, are do you disagree that you've had problems what bringing people in your military? And do you think that I respect I'm allowed to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your coin.

A lot of a lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. Sure fills to wall.

During the war.

Everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice solution and don't feel now, but you will feel it in diffusion.

Less, you're less. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel.

I'm because you're in no position.

To dictate that. Remember this, you're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel. We're gonna feel very good, feel We're gonna feel.

Very good and very strong influence.

You're right now not in a very good position you've allowed you to be a beginning to be right about from the beginning of the war, not in a good position.

You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having right now, You're you're playing car You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country, far more than a lot of people.

Said they should have.

You said, you.

Said today, you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition.

In October, offers some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.

That voice you heard was jd.

Vance, who played the role of a tack dog perfectly today. And I say, before the break, you know, I don't hate that this happened and diplomacy wise, because previously when we had diplomacy happening, here's what would happen. There would be a meeting behind closed doors, and then the leaders would come out and they would sit there and they would take like a few questions from the press, and

And oh what a great talk we had. And then whoever was in the room, the actual.

Room would start to leak things to sympathetic media outlets, and depending where you were, your media outlet maybe reporting something completely different than a different media outlet who got a leak from someone else. This is all happening in public. Not only just in public, it is happening in a room full of reporters. Say what you will about Donald Trump and his little spat with AP, but anyone who tells you he doesn't respect the First Amendment is insane.

Like, heck, yes, let's do it. Rock and roll, baby, rock and roll.

If I am the Trump administration and I have questions about Zelensky, and I have questions about Ukraine, which, by the way, our own former president Joe Biden, remember he threatened to withhold Ukrainian aid before the war because of corruption in Ukraine, allegedly by the Biden family. Now what we now know is that the Attorney general, the essentially the equivalent to the Attorney general in Ukraine, was investigating

You set him up. You set him up, You go after his ego. He takes the bait.

He looks absolutely terrible. And now when people are like, well, no wonder the United States doesn't want to help the guy, it gives you a little political cover. Now let's talk about the sucking up to Putin that Trump is doing. I don't like it, want to be clear, don't like it. But one thing I've learned in the first month and a half of the Trump administration, which has been wild, not even five weeks, five weeks he's been president. Let me just wrap your head around that for a second.

What's the endgame to be gained there?

I don't think Trump ever, ever, ever sees Russia as being a superior nation to us.

I do not believe that.

One thing I've always thought about Trump, even though if I personally disliked the guy, I always have thought that he loves this country, absolutely loves it, thinks it's the greatest country in the world. There's I'd never doubt his love for the United States of America.

I just don't. So I don't think it's that he thinks Russia is well better.

Than us in any way, shape or form. But if you're trying to get Vladimir Putin away from China, which you now have said multiple times in multiple settings that China is the big geopolitical foe here, if you're trying to peel Russia away from their growing friendship with Russia. By the way, you know what's happening in Central and South America right now? Do you know why Secretary of State Mark Aruba went there. First, he went to Saudi Arabia,

That's not what I said. They're very similar.

They're very, very very much alpha males very much, both of them, no doubt about it. So Trump understands just like I think Trump fundamentally understands that he is. What's the word I'm looking for an attack point for Trump is going after anything related to his ego. We saw it in the debate when he was doing so well and then Biden went after something stupid, and he just walked right into it, because you know, God talking about golf handicaps.

I mean, that kind of stuff is so dumb.

But I think Vladimir Putin is the very same and Trump knows that, and Trump recognizes that. So if you're trying to interfere between Russia and China in order to hopefully make it easier to push back against Chinese aggression against Taiwan and other places, then did it makes sense?

Now?

Is that the grand scheme?

I don't know. And that's the real kicker with this administration. No one knows what's going to happen next. I just saw a comedian whose name just went right out of my head. Oh no, gosh.

He has a really funny bit.

He said, Trump being president is like having a horse in a hospital. Do you know it's bad? You're I mean you don't know what's gonna happen next, but you're pretty sure it's not going to be normal. So I don't know if what I'm saying is accurate. John Mulaney, thank you. It was a very funny bit. Made me laugh.

But he's right.

But the downside of that is it makes it very hard to figure out planning and thinking of and not freak out every time something happens. But on the flip side of that, being unpredictable on the world stage works to our advantage. I really believe it's why no war started when Donald Trump was in office, and I'm hoping that the same will hold true this time. We've never had as anti war a president as Donald J. Trump.

I think that's what he've views.

The Russians and the Ukrainians are just wasting an entire generation of young men that are never coming home to produce children or anything else. And if you look at it from that perspective, he is trying to get a deal done. But I think he's going to go back to Putin and say you know, we'll see if this guy actually wants to make a deal. Right now, it doesn't feel like he won't. By the way, Trump s merely dismissed Zelensky from.

The White House. Ooh, that's gotta hurt.

Somebody sent me a text or an email with some backstory on it, and I want to share that very very quickly as soon as I find it again, pointing out how all of this nonsense got started today and it didn't start with Trump on the blog I did, I mean, on the break. I did a little search on the interwebs and I found a story that gives interesting context to this entire situation. I just said, I'm glad this happened in public, because before everything's happening behind

Heard outside the room.

He was very angry, a person present told The Financial Times. However, The Daily Mail has been told a report was one hundred percent fake news spread by Zelenski's team. Two sources told Dailymail dot com there was tension and disappointment in the room, as obviously if they thought it was a done deal with Zelenski, but disputed the notion that Bassett was shaking afterwards. Video of Thesent's remarks with Zelensky after the meetings showed he was increasingly cautious and his voice trembled.

As he spoke to reporters.

He also appeared to be sweating as he spoke about future negotiations with Ukraine. The exchange between Zelensky and kicked off several days of angry statements from the Ukrainian president and Trump that threatened to destroy any goodwill between the country. After Trump criticized former president Joe Biden and accused Zelensky of triggering the war in Ukraine, Zelensky complained that Trump was living in a web of disinformation.

Trump fired back, describing.

Zelensky as a modestly successful comedian before becoming president and a dictator without elections. Zolensky better move fast or he is not going to have a country left, Trump warned. He added that the Ukrainian president probably wants to keep the gravy train going. But Trump indicated Monday there's a strong possibility that Zelensky would eventually sign her minerals agreement, suggesting a deal between the two countries could.

Close this week or next week.

Zelensky, however, indicated there were more negotiations required before he could sign a deal, complaining of a one to two ratio of repayment to the United States in return for aid. I'm not signing something that has to be repaid by generations and generations of Ukrainians. Well guess what, President Zelenski. The money we're sending you it's gonna have to be repaid by generations and generations of Americans. This clown can poundsand for all I care. I feel terrible for the

Go to for help?

Now?

What of their countries are willing to give him the kind of money and access to military hardware that we are. I can't. I'm genuinely I'm sitting here thinking, I'm like, Okay, who are gonna ask? You can ask Europe because currently Europe is given more money to Russia by buying their oil and gas than they've given to Ukraine.

I have that story today. So they're funding both sides of the war, and they.

Can't afford to really aggressively go after Russia because Russia could just turn off the spigott, although I don't know who else they would sell it to. I mean, this is just this is really convoluted and complex. All I know is that I would not underestimate President Donald Trump in this situation. I think Zelenski got out over in front of his skis and it showed, and I have

I am not one of them, because I don't like to blow smoke out of my rear end.

And anybody who says they know what's going to happen next, I believe is lying.

You could make an educated guess, and I'm trying. I'm really trying to make educated.

Guesses about where I think things are going, which is why I laid out the whole geopolitical picture in the last segment. But if anybody says they know exactly what Donald Trump is thinking, of what they want to do and what they're trying to achieve, I just I don't believe them. I think it's just crazy, absolutely crazy. By the way, President Zelenski apparently also canceled his appearance at the Ukraine House in DC, so we'll see.

Maybe he's back on a plane back to Ukraine right now. I'm interested to see.

Tomorrow. I will pull up Ukrainian newspapers and there are here's a fun fact you guys. You can go to newspapers are in the world on Google and you can hit the translate button and they will translate it all into English for you. It's usually pretty bad. You have to really work to kind of figure out what we're doing, but it's very helpful to see exactly what they say

We're gonna take a quick time out. When we get back.

Mary Alice Parks from ABC News will bring us the very latest and then we will put a cap on it and talk about other things that I have on the blog today. We'll be right back.

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We will have Mary Alice Parks from ABC News in just a few minutes to talk about the dust up in the White House between President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and President Zelensky of Ukraine. The White House has issued another statement. This one says President Donald J.

So oh, wait, I miss, I miss the whole page here.

Even if the West did come through with all the weapons they pledged, we don't have the men to use them. One of Ukrainian President Voldemir Zelenski's close aides told Time Simon Schuster, revealing that the average age of a Ukrainian soldier has already reached forty three. One of Zelenski's Aids also told Time in twenty twenty three that he is

Yeah.

Yeah, it's not good, not good at all. Whatever's happening not good. Okay, So we're just waiting for us to her to call us. Okay, no problem though, we will talk to her in just a few minutes. We went through a lot of stuff in the first hour. The text line is on fire and I haven't been.

Able to get to it.

So, Mandy, so you are fine with the US voting for Russia and North Korea, et cetera in the UN, because you please answer this. No, I'm not fine. I already said that earlier in the show, but not everybody listens to the whole hour. I'm not comfortable at all with the sucking up to Vladimir Putin that is happening right now.

I'm not happy about that at all.

You can believe these I believe both of these. I don't particularly care for either of these countries, Okay, I don't particularly have a dog in the fight personally. I think Ukraine has a tremendous amount of corruption and has for a very long time. And this war has been the best thing that's ever happened in Ukraine in the sense that it has given them an air of respectability

World to say that's not okay.

And if Russia as sides with China, then that creates a whole other situation. A text are sent a little while ago, but it has already fallen off. Wait here we go, know here it is, Mandy, I agree with you regarding the reason that Trump is cozying up to Putin. I even uh blah blah blah text to to Ross.

I think Trump understands that Russia.

At least has to not lose too many more military personnel because if they do, that'll in volden China to go after Siberia and or Taiwan sequentially.

And that's the bigger part of this conversation.

And by the way, Texter, I don't know. I don't think that people on the left love to oversimplify Donald Trump, right. They love to be like, oh, he just loves Putiny. What's to be like Putin? He's not a simple man, our president. He's not a stupid man. And if I were on the left and I kept saying this guy was stupid, well, you guys got your butts kicked by

Spandy. Never seen anything like that in my life.

And if you support that childish peeing match we just saw by these two men who are unbelievably insecure individuals, you're part of the problem too. Okay, So, Texter, what do you think about Zolensky's performance. Here's a guy who desperately needs our help, desperately needs our help, and he certainly made some bad choices. Mary Alice Park joining us now from ABC News Wow, Mary Alice, what a day. Yeah, what a day.

I've never seen something like that at the White House.

You think about these meetings with heads of state.

They're normally so formal, the language so coded.

Even frankly, when those meetings in the over Office are tense or not.

With a traditional ally, they.

Still don't normally include raised voices.

It was a remarkable scene.

Well, Miriollis, I just shared a story with my listeners from Monday of this week where apparently it is alleged that during a meeting with Secretary of the Treasury Scott the Sent that Zelenski's people came out of the meeting and started telling the media that the sent was trembling

Yeah, I hadn't heard of that. The reality is the bas job going into.

This meeting was already tense, you know, about the last few weeks when when the United States on boy was meeting with rushing counterparts without inviting Ukraine to the table. The language we've heard from the President in the last few days, calling Olymskape a dictator frankly, so much rhetoric that had rattled in Europe.

I mean, the reason that we have got other European leaders also rush here to Washington to try to convince.

Prompt to stick with Ukraine, to stick with them, frankly, And that was the backdrop one into this meeting.

That was LISSI had hoped to keep things cool. It's in his interest to continue to have you as the United States support.

And you could tell watching him that there were moments.

Where he sort of.

Stobbed himself, tried to sit back.

It almost was like wanted to roll his eyes a few moments, but tried to catch himself. And I guess I'm saying, is watching it it was hard.

I felt like I was watching.

Someone who was biting his tongue and then at some point couldn't take it anymore.

Unfortunately, though he needs our help way more than we need him. And that's the reality. I mean, as far as doing diplomacy goes, I don't think he did himself any favors. And I think the Trump administration, if they were trying to demonstrate why they don't want to work with Zelenski, they've set him up and he took the bait perfectly.

Yeah, I mean they they accused him of not of not wanting to engage in diplomacy, and he really showed true skepticism about working with Putin.

You know, he tried to talk about times when when before the war, whether they worked on potential to these deals, and in his words, you know, Putin back down, the reality is the.

And invaded anyway.

You know, the reality is you're right that they have been relying on us age to try to fight Russia's invasion.

And he came kind of pull at those heart strings.

I think he had a minilla envelope with pictures of Ukrainian prisoners of war and how they were treated by Russia. He talked about the tens of thousands of Ukrainian children.

Russia has taken back to Russia, trying to talk about just the human.

Cost of Russia's invasion and so the meeting and you could feel Trumps, of.

Course, the pathetic to the horrors of war, but you're right, even though it started that way, it's a pathetic.

By the end, it was hard to.

See that that Zelenski had managed in any way, so Trump's good side.

Do you know what happened after the meeting that's been being reported in various places that basically Zelensky was dismissed. Do you know he's canceled some appearances, But do you know if he's planning on leaving the United States right away?

Is this is this dead in the water as we know it right now?

You're exactly right.

Our understanding is that he was essentially dismissed, that.

He had hoped to continue some conversations with White House folks, but that after the meeting, the President decided that he was done and didn't want to talk to him anymore and basically kick the Ukrainians out of the White House, and they.

Canceled what was supposed to be a joint press conference and at other digning ceremois and other events that had been previously scheduled.

I don't know if he will leave the country immediately. I mean, he had going into this meeting done.

A by part of the meeting on Capitol Hill with a number of Republicans so I'm not sure if he will try to continue to be with other Republicans before leaving.

But yet basically the President said he was talking to him for the day.

At least not good for the Ukrainians, this certainly was. I mean, if there was ever any doubt that things are not being done in DC as they've been done before, I think this pretty much should put that to rest. I mean, that's fair.

It is a complete pivot in the United States foreign policy, and this is a had been long seen as an ally. I remember when Ziloski was first dealing with this crisis, dealing with a Russian invasion in games to Washington and.

Was received with open arms.

We remember those pictures on Capitol Hill with Democrats Republicans.

Something's actually more.

Often the Republicans that were that would stand in a plot and support Ukraine because.

They wanted to fight I push back on Russia's invasion, and.

Of course we've seen this president be skeptical.

We've seen this president be quick to take Russia at its word and a big, big, potensil size.

Mixtift in the relationship between the United States and the rest of Europe.

Mary Alice Park from ABC News I appreciate your perspective today. Thank you, thank you. Her connection was terrible. Sorry, I'm wanted to talk to her a.

Little bit longer, but I can't chirpy chirpy connections. I can't do.

But you know, like I said, I'd love to tell you I know what's going to happen next, but I don't try to pull up Bret there. Brett Fair on Fox News is supposed to have an interview with him today Zelenski, so we will see. I'm watching to see if anything pops up. It says it's still on the schedule now. So Brett says, we're still we've been so that that's going to be a must watch tonight. White House officials, by the way, have said Trump kicked out Zelensky,

Oh well, we understand that at least per the President's schedule, he is now supposed to be wheels up tomorrow.

Lago.

Okay, we think the President is done with this issue for today. That's a very AliOS Chid.

Yeah, she said it's done, done, done, so nothing significant is going to happen. But I mean, it can't be left this way, Kathy. You know, it's not like this could be Ukraine can't afford to have it left this way. I mean, that's the thing.

And I think that's the point Iris trying to make with Ross a little bit earlier, like what happens now in all of eastern Europe as a result of this willing meltdown in Washington.

The shockwaves, the shockwaves, I'm guessing.

I'm guessing that in the EU right now people are being jostled out of bed to have a conversation about what occurred in the White House today because this puts a tremendous amount of pressure on Europe. And Matt Crow has been trying to gather up what he called the important nations, but then he made everybody else who didn't get invited mad, so they can't even convene a meeting without some kind of you know, situation. And I don't see Europe being able to get it together enough to

It's late, late, late at night in Europe on a Friday night, on a weekend.

On some level, this just fasters through the weekend.

Very hard for people to react and get policy statements made and policy shifts done on a weekend.

It's very interesting on x to watch the responses because I follow a pretty varied group of people. I follow people on the right, I follow people on the left. And really it has become tribal instantly, instantly, And it's fascinating because we all watch the same thing. But isn't it interesting to see how differently we all perceive what we just watched based on whether we like the people involved or not.

It's this whole thing.

I mean, if it wasn't so serious and there weren't people dying right now because of it, this would be like the most amazing House of Cards episode in the history.

Of House of Cards, unprecedented what we all heard and saw today on television.

Yeah, from the Oval office.

Yea, So we are going to I've got other stuff that I really want to talk about today. I realize this is a huge story, but I do have things that I want to talk about that don't have anything to do with it. Yes, so, And by the way, I did a whole blog today before any of this happens. So it's all this stuff that has nothing to do with that. But I'm curious as to whether or not you guys, And you can text me at five six six, and I know even my text line is very different,

Guys.

Can I ask you a question, Nana, and I mean this about that particular thing. I love the notion of decorum. I think decorum is important. It's one of the reasons that I don't like the fact that John Fetterman continues to wear jim shorts when he's going to work as a US senator. Right, just put on some long pants. That's all I'm asking Just a couple, just a pair

And how's that worked out for us?

I mean, do you really think the world and the world of diplomacy is working in its current form? And don't get me wrong, I don't want every bit of diplomacy to be done in a brawl and you know, on a bar you know, a barroom brawl.

That's not what I'm asking for.

But if they know something about Zlensky that we don't know about Zolensky and they want us to see what they think he is, what better way to do it than to put it in front of the cameras. That way, nobody can go out and leak what happened. Nobody can go out and say, you know, Zelensky was just he was the greatest guy ever. He was so respectful and jd. Vance was just super rude. Jd Vance was tough, But

I mean, I'm not sure to be disrespectful.

You can have your opinions about Trump, but I do think that you're making all these grandiose statements too soon, because where you see one incident, I see a process, and I don't know what the process is. There are things going on in the White House that we're not privy to that. I actually think there is a plan. And I know for people who hate Trump, they can't even believe the guy would have a plan. But I think he has a plan, and I think we're only

They've had three years to do it.

They've had billions of dollars to make that happen, and Russia is still hold and steady. As I said before, the gains, they're gains of inches, not of miles, not of kilometers. So you know, how would you like to see this work out? Texter? How much more American money would you like to just throw into this? And did you feel the same way about the endless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? Were they too righteous wars because we were fighting the Islamis over there instead of here. That's

Just saying.

Mandy, I think it's extremely hypocritical that Trump has an issue with disrespect in the White House, yet he excuses all the January sixth disrespectful people. A lot of people in the January sixth prosecutions deserved to stay in jail, but a lot of people were prosecuted ridiculously and maliciously.

So make sure that we divide those people up.

Because though I wish she hadn't pardoned anybody that committed any kind of violence. There was a lot of people that the Biden and Admin went off after that did not deserve it at all. And that's why pardonable, truly, truly. Okay, when we get back, we're going in a completely but

You know, she has a point.

Oh boy, did my followers disappoint me. We'll talk about that with Hadley heading meath I had Wait a minute, we try that again, Hadley heath manning right after this, I want to talk about a dust up I created on x dot com that I didn't think would be much of a dust up. Okay, let me just lay the groundwork here. Representative Britney Patterson, who is a young woman, She just had her second child, The child is five

To represent, she had to fly and she took her baby with her.

And yes it was a photo op to stand there with her baby in front of the Capitol, But the underlying point is solid. There should be in the modern era a way to allow women of child bearing age to have time at home with their newborns while still be able to represent the people that they were elected to represent. And joining me now from the Steamboat Institute, Hadley Manning Heath. Wait, Hadley, you've dropped the heath now that you've just gone with Matt Manning. What is your what do you go by?

Now?

You could call me really, any of the if of Hadley, just call me Hadley Cadi.

So you reached out to me because you also are a young woman, you have had children while you're pursuing very difficult and high level jobs. I was disappointed by the response that I got on my x feed for my followers, who I think more than probably seventy five percent lean right. They were dismissive, they were ugly. She shouldn't have run for Congress. She should have resigned her role. They were anything but sympathetic to the needs of a new mom, and you were like, Ah, this should be an.

Area that the GOP should really lead on. Dig down on that for me, that's right.

We yeah, I mean, I think both parties should try to support working moms and working families, and we shouldn't. You know, I don't want conservatives to seed this to the left. Yes, it was a photo op, but it was a photo op that was created because her request to vote remotely was dismissed, was turned down. So I think you got to think in forty chess terms when you're in today's political environment. Of course, it created a pr set of optics that were bad for congress a leadership.

Study about whether or not.

We should have an entitlement program to provide paid family leave to everybody in Colorado from the government, And of course.

That's that's bad. I don't like that. I think that's government meddling where it doesn't belong.

But there are specific questions, like what happened with Representative Peterson that you have to remember.

In this case, the government is her employer.

We the tax payers, we are her employer, and so we're making a very specific decision. She's only the thirteenth person to give birth while in office, so it's a very small number of people who've had this experience. It's almost as if this is more symbolic than consequence. But the symbolism really matters, and I think that this is again conservatives should not see this to the left and give.

Them more ammunition to say, oh, look, how hypocritical. They say they're the family values party. They say they're in favor of women and supporting women.

And by the way, we just had a great, you know month the last month with the executive.

Order on women's sports.

You know, I do think that conservatives have really had a morally and politically superior position on women's sports.

This is a great wedge issue.

It's an opportunity for us to say, actually, we've been we've always been in favor of doing what's best for women. That just didn't come out in this series of events around Representative Patterson.

A lot of people responded with some variation of where does it stop, Like, essentially, if you allowed a nursing mother to vote remotely, then some guy who just didn't want to come to the office would want to vote remotely. And I think that those are things they can be

It's time to modernize it been allowed to in Congress, right, I mean, yeah, No, I understand the argument, slippery slope argument.

I think that's fair.

I think that's we should always ask those questions about anything related to public policy, because we shall always.

Guard against it.

You know.

But I've in the past, you know, a couple of weeks while they've been debating the budget, I have heard very reasonable arguments from conservative lawmakers about the Medicaid program. For example, we want Medicaid to be available to single mothers and children. We want to provide for the health insurance needs of people in the population who otherwise, you know, would be falling.

Through the cracks.

But we don't we draw a line at we don't want to provide Medicaid for an able bodied, twenty nine year old guy who could be out there working. So this is public policy. This is where we make reasoned decisions about the cost benefit analysis.

You know, I don't believe in no government. I believe in limited government.

And again, in the case of Representative Pedterson, the.

Government is her employer.

This is more similar to I think the rules change that took place in twenty eighteen when Senator Tammy Duckworth became the first US Senator to give birth while she was in office. The Senate, in a bipartisan way, changed the rules so that she could bring her breastfeeding davy with her onto the Senate floor. I mean, prior to that,

Could go in and vote. Stuff like that's kind of silly.

I think we can make room for people who have families to participate in government as elected representatives, and that does not commit us should not commit us to going to the full extreme. I mean, COVID showed us, yes, there are benefits to remote work, but there's also an unreasonable extreme that allows people to shirk their responsibilities and not do their jobs.

That's not good. I don't want that.

I think when it comes to this particular.

Issue, I think lawmakers who are women who are mothers who have you know, have to give birth, who are recovering from childbirth, I think that's a very unique circumstance. I think, you know, the next step would be what about all the dads in Congress?

There's actually a lot more dads in Congress than there are minds. But I think in this case, just like we've said.

When it comes to the women's sports issue, there are biological differences between men and women, there are differences to.

Mens and dads.

I think in this case, asking a mother to board a flight to DC to cast a vote and then fly back that's a lot harder than asking a post part of dad.

Like, what even is a postpartum dad? You know, this is what I'm talking about, is a dad who has a newborn patient.

Right well, and because let's just forget about let's take the breastfeeding part out of it, because dads don't breastfeed. The physical act of getting a baby out of you, whether you do a natural birth or you do an induced labor, you do a C section, it beats the crap out of your body, and you deserve, as a new mom to not have to worry about hopping on a plane to go do this.

Hardley, I appreciate your perspective.

I was shocked, honestly, and I think that if there had been an R behind her name, everyone would have had an outflowing of compassion. And I think that's awful because, like I said, I don't agree with the single thing I don't think with Britney Patterson except this, and this should cut across all partisan lines, and we should be able to make it okay for women of child laring age to be in Congress.

Yeah.

I like that she supports direct primary care for Medicaid patients.

That's good.

I mean, we can probably find some common ground with just about anybody. Well, maybe not just about any I think there is certainly a case being made here that this is one of these issues where we have a tendency to put partisan goggles on, you know, because in this case, yeah, I could see the temptation for congressional leadership to say, hey, this would you know, this would be one less vote for the Democrats if we say no to her request to vote remotely by by proxy.

Okay, fine, well, look.

At the big picture.

In the big picture, we want family friendly lawmakers. We want lawmakers who are more likely to share you know, pro family values. Yes, limited government values too, But a lot of times those people end up in the middle of the finn diagram together. You know, there's a lot of limited government conservatives who also love families. And I'll just end by saying this, every new life is a gift, is a blessing, is something special, and that should be celebrated.

And I do think that people with children do have a different view of the future than people without, because we have a vested interest in leaving something behind for our children that is worth it. Hadley Manning, I'll talk to you soon. Young lady.

Thank you, Mandy.

All right, that's Hadley Manning from the Steamboat Institute. We'll be right back. The conflagration at the White House. As President Voldemort Voldemir Zelensky. I don't know why I keep trying to call him Voldemort after today, I mean maybe if you missed it, can I my computer a rod is my computer up? If you missed it, let me just play it for you. This happened in public in front of the cameras. It was quite traumatic. You should be thanking the president for any been to Ukraine that

I have actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring.

People, you bring them on a propaganda tour.

Mister President, are do you disagree that you've had problems with bringing people in your military?

And do you think that I respect Alan's to come to the Oval Office.

In the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your kind.

At a lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems even you. But you have nice otion and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.

Bless God, bless you're.

Not blessed, you're not.

Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you because you are in no position to dictate that.

Remember this, you're not.

You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. We're gonna feel very good. Feel We're gonna feel.

Very good and very strong, feel influenced. You're right now not in a very good position.

You've allowed you to be in the beginning, and he's from the very beginning of the war not in a good position.

You don't have the cards right now with us. You start having right now, you're playing. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with world War three. You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing is very.

Disrespectful to the country, this country.

Far more than a lot of people said they should have.

Have you said thank you once locker times, No, you said you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the President who's trying to save your country.

So that went well.

Shortly thereafter, Zelenski was dismissed from the White House. You can go, and so far the world has erupted. Michael Bennett issued a statement, and I'm not going to read the whole thing because has gone along. Colorado US Senator Michael Bennett released the following statement in response to today's Oval Office meeting between Ukrainian President Voldemir Zelenski and US President Donald Trump.

And this is the statement. As I said last week on.

The Senate floor, the American people have been extremely generous in our support of Ukraine. It is also equally true that the Ukrainian people have earned a debt of gratitude from the entire free world, including the United States. Their courage, our weapons, and the weapons of our allies have put Putin's army at the gates of Europe. I don't understand. I held have held Putin's army at the gates of Europe in defense of their country democracy in the West.

As I said on the Senate floor last week.

Rolling over to Putin will embolden other dictators around the world, especially Jijinping of China.

When we get back, I'll explain or actually.

Ask a question, and maybe we'll reach out to Senator Bennett's office and see if we can get them on the show. They have been receptive to being on the show. I'd like to know the answer, and you know what, you can text me at five sixty six nine zero and tell me what does victory look like in Ukraine? According to Senator Bennett, what does that look like?

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We are working our way through the third hour of the show, and man, what a day it's been coming at that two thirty. We are going in a totally different Finally, it's Friday, Simple fun direction the Freddy Jones Band in studio, well, two members of the Freddy Jones Band, neither of which are named Freddy Jones, because apparently there's never been a Freddy Jones in the band.

We're going to find out.

Rick Lewis may pop by as well, because tomorrow night they're all playing at the Wild Goose Saloon and Parker and it's going to be a fun night. So, uh, somebody just sent me a message. We're talking obviously about the dust up in the White House between Voladimir Zelensky and that is his name is not Vladimir's Voldemir Zelensky

Didn't do anything.

That's so weird, Gousha, I never really thought about that until right now. So Russia keeps Crimea and maybe some you know here and there, like right along the border, but that's pretty much the best you're gonna get if you're Ukraine. I don't think they're ever gonna get back their pre twenty fourteen borders. They should have fought harder in twenty fourteen. And I mean that. I love it when people are like, like Israel is there should get

I hey, I don't know.

Maybe, I mean, I mean, maybe you know at this point.

What kind of whack of noodle stuff?

I just I finally learned to just be more cautious about stuff where.

I'm like that couldn't owe.

Wait, it did happen.

Dang it, it did happen. Rats, Rats.

This comment about our conversation about Representative Britney Petterson, Mandy, in all seriousness, I'm tired of the left using our values against us and then refusing to own up to their own lack of respect for human life, especially when it comes to abortion. In my opinion, missus Peterson is trying to have her cake and eat it too. You have a point, but that doesn't mean that we should cast aside the family values of supporting families, supporting people

I don't care.

My values are not affected or impacted at all by what Democrats think of me, not at all. My principles remain the same. So I you know, the thing is is that we're allowing them to get ahead of us, even though to your point, there's a lot.

Of hypocrisy there.

In any case, I want you guys to tell me five six six nine, oh, as an American citizen, what do you want to see us do here?

Now?

I realized that my audience leans right. So I'm guessing a lot of you are going to agree with President Donald Trump. But if you don't, if you want to see us just continue to fund an endless war, nobody's.

Going to say that.

Nobody who's even supporting Ukraine is going to say, yes, I want endless war, because that's absurd. If somebody had said to us back when Colin Powell gave that speech to the UN, about you know, a rock having weapons of mass destruction and all that. If you had said to the American people, because they pulled people in the United States, should we go into a rock and make sure that they don't have nuclear weapons? People like, heck, yeah,

Yeah?

Maybe not, maybe not, But have we not learned? And this is the part that gets me with Zelenski. Without our help, there's a zero percent chance that Ukraine comes out of it even where they are now.

Period.

Europe can't pull it together, you guys. Europe doesn't build weapons. Europe doesn't have soldiers. I mean, they have soldiers, but they.

Don't have a lot. They don't have a lot of army to spare.

Their average age of their soldier forty three years old. Forty three that's insane. I mean, wait a minute, the average agent Vietnam. Let me just see not this is better average average age of Vietnam soldier okay, twenty two to twenty three years old. The majority of combat infantrymen falling between the eighteen and twenty one year old range. Ukrainian soldiers are twice as old as that. How are we supposed to think they're going to win? I just

Well?

Donald Trump sent out a press release.

Hang on one second, I will find it right here the White House. According to a November Gallop pole, fifty two percent of Ukrainians want a quick end to the war and believe Ukraine should be quote open to seating some territory in exchange for peace. Fifty two pretends not a lot, but it's a majority anyway. Today says this texter was a mostly narcissistic, egotistical Trump getting back at Zelensky for supporting Kamala. Believe that at your peril. This

Let me expand. First off, the rest.

Of the world has been looking at the United States as weak and something because it was being guided by a leaderless government. JD.

Vance and Donald J.

Trump's behavior and tactics are merely an instrument to tell the rest of the world the United States get no longer be messed with. The second part of this is Zelensky's behavior. Much like how progressive social media and parenting has made our younger generations become more self centered and entitled, so has the progressive treatment of the Ukraines of Ukraines

I can't read the rest. I don't know if I go so far, but I will say this, and I said it at the beginning of the show.

Voldemir Zelensky has been adored since this war started. He shows up in his green outfit. He went black outfit, same army outfit, but he showed up in his You know, he's got his green outfit out on everybody. He's like, look at him. He's so amazing.

He's fighting the bigger aggressor.

And it's true.

It's a really good story.

Except after a while, when everybody tells you you're great, you're great, you're great, you're great, people start to believe it. It's really hard not to believe it, because it's nice when people tell you you're great, you're great, you're great, you're great, right.

I mean, everybody wants that.

I do think that he's been told he's great won too many times, and it certainly appeared that way today in the Oval Office, that he believed in his own greatness and more importantly, did not believe in American greatness. The comment that he made that keeps rolling around in my head is that you don't feel it, but you will, he said, but you will.

Brett, there is uh doing an interview.

They're just advertising on Fox six o'clock tonight with Zelensky. So that's going to be a barn burner. So a couple of you yes, sending this answer to your new question. How about this Ukraine becomes a territory of the United States rather than under the EU. It's a win for the US. We get our money back in the value of land transaction, and Zelenski gets the supporting needs. But under the agreement that he steps down as president of Ukraine.

So if they want our help, then let's make a deal.

But it doesn't seem like Zelensky is interested in making a deal or interested in peace negotiations at this time. I mean, wouldn't it be interesting if he turned into the oh gosh, oh he just went out of my head, who is to be the ruler of hamas Arafat that turned down every peace deal that was offered, every single one, he turned it down, every two state solution he turned him down. Wouldn't be interesting if Zelensky turned.

Into that guy, Mandy. I'm very sad for the people of Ukraine.

The elites in the world are driving this war, so I'm glad that Trump threw the hammer down. You know, the elites of the world that have been very happy to embrace every war they can because it creates a tremendous amount of money for certain industries. They have to be downright concerned because Donald Trump is not interested in war, not at all, and that could be a big problem going forward. Anyway, We're gonna shift gears entirely. I've got I got musicians coming up next, which is on a Friday,

Well, the funny thing is is that we for years were so embarrassed about the real story that we, oh, it's not good.

Look, here's I apologize. But we told so many FIBs over the over the years.

The real story isn't really that exciting, but you know it turned into the first Canadian to cross Lake Michigan in an inner tube. Obviously was Freddie Jones. You know, all right, skydivers, trumpet players, you name it. We came up with Starky's flat tires fixed by you know, all kinds of no.

Spontaneous combustion that's already run by the way, and we've got uh, we've got Rich Ross in the studio as well, from the Freddie Jones man. No, you know, I had no idea, and I just told the guys a funny story about a friend of mine getting fooled by a guy named Freddie Jones.

He had a driver's license and everything.

I'm sure he hit. His name probably was Freddie Jones. I mean, there is a Freddie Jones.

There was a guy that played at halftime on the Dallas game and it was Freddie Jones.

And my phone's blowing up. Oh my god, I can't believe you guys are on halftime.

I was like, girl, No one told me, yeah, the trumpet player Thanksgiving Day, Dallas Cowboys, Eddy Jones.

How long have you guys.

Been doing this? For years?

I wore out a cassette tape of yours, by the way, like.

Literally broke it.

I broke it.

It's not that hard to break a cassette, well, but you know, you got to You got to play.

It a lot to break that cassette tape.

And I did have at the time a really bad car with a really bad you know, I say sound system, but that's generous, right. It was a really cheesy like post install radio that had a cassette player in it, and it ate every tape and it ate one of your tapes, so I had to buy another one, So you're welcome for that. It was hungry. It was hungry, okay.

Marty started the band in the late eighties, and I mean, now we're getting kids coming out to the shows, you know that are that are coming out with their parents, and the kids are singing the lyrics because they grew up listening to it, you know, the last of the few people that don't like rap.

You know.

Well, I think it's kind of interesting. I have a fifteen year old daughter, and so she plays DJ Quicksman where we're in my car, and it shocks me sometimes when she puts on some of my music, right, and it used to me too, Yes, And I'm like, where did you hear that?

She goes, I don't know, the internet. So you guys live on on the internet.

All you do you need to get on somebody's show, though, you know what I'm saying, Like that's the key. Stranger Things brought a lot of music to a lot of younger kids. Trust me, we try, we have tried. We're available. Yeah, there you go.

There you So where did you start? How did you start this band?

Well? We I mean, first of all, there were a few different configurations of high school bands together, and then some of the some of those members from different bands got together in college and it was in South Bend, Indiana, and we just sort of ran into each other like, well, looks like we're doing it here too.

And there were some guys ahead of us at school.

There they were were you Notre Dame? Well, I told my parents I was going to transfer into there.

I was your Notre Dame adjacent adjacent.

I had previously been a you know, amazing scholar at Xavier University in Cincinnati. Oh well it's a good school, yeah, I left so well it was awesome though time there for one year.

Yeah, I too, am a college dropout, but I did four years of college that I then had to pay for without the degree.

So you did a better job than I did by just calling it today.

So there were these guys in South Bend Notre Dame students. They were called the Pat Giblin Band, Oh of course, And the guy Pat Giblin was not in the band. He was just a buddy of theres and they practiced in his basement. He was like a soccer player or something, and for Notre Dame. And I just I thought that

There it is. That is That's almost as ridiculous as the Leonard Scared story, which is also ridiculous as well.

But I kind of like it because it adds to them the mystery.

It's the real story when you heard it live here. So if you hear another you know, crazy, crazy ass story from us, or you meet a.

Guy who says he's Freddy Jones from the Freddie Jones Band, he's lying, don't go home, Y, don't don't do that.

I can tell you many times we'll walk into a venue and the sound guy or whoever's at the venue will look at Marty.

And be like, hey, hey, just Freddie need anything I'm looking around? Yes he does. Yeah, you guys, you know what are you trade off? Who gets to be Freddie? Like rich one day you can be Freddy, then Marty you can be Freddy. Just roll it through the band. Maybe we'll just pass the hat around. Yeah, I actually love that story. How did you guys get your break? When did that happen? You had a couple of really big hits in the nineties to my you know cassette tape.

Joy?

Yeah, how did that happen? How do you go from South Bend, Indiana to not happening? Well? I decided, you know this, this isn't for me.

I'm going to Chicago, and then some followed with me, and then we found different guys in Chicago and became the Freddie Owns Band in Chicago, and then we were we started writing songs right away. Daydream had been written right around that time, and we played a show opening up at the Park West for widespread Panic.

Oh gosh, we got all the hippies following.

Around, so it's a bunch of twirlers, you know, and having having a good time around the around the dance floor in the front of the stage.

And there was a dude sitting on the floor with his legs crossed, like what is this?

And he comes up to us afterwards and he's like, I'm from Capricorn Records in Nashville and they sent me here because they want to meet you guys, and they want you to come down for a meeting.

And we did. We went down and.

Played the Exit in played a showcase and Phil Walden was there and he introduces me to Justin knee Bank, the record producer, and he's like, this is who we think you guys should work.

With to produce the record and what does that? It all happened in like forty five minutes, but here's the thing, Like how, I mean, how does that I hit you when you all of a sudden are meeting people who have obviously had conversations about you. I mean, were you like, how do you even know who we are? Yeah, they took notice.

We already had our own CD right back when there were CDs, and we were just traveling around to like big ten schools, selling the trunk in the car.

Just in Midwest.

We didn't feel like we'd work on the coast, just the bus as far as we could go. We're all driving our own cars probably at the time, and they just took notice. You know, They're like, yes, some little that's.

A cool story. Which when did you join the party?

So I played in the samples in the nineties, okay, and you know I got in that band in ninety nine and Sean and those guys who are from Denver.

It was a shock for me.

I was really young, and that's when I met were young, so you know it probably twenty five, never never been on tour.

Yeah, well I guess that probably was kind of just overwhelming. Yeah, situation, you.

Go out, you're on a bus and then and then that's how I met Marty. I met Marty at a show and then you know, I continued playing with the samples over the years. I mean I still play with them now and then, you know, and then just go in and fill in. But you know, when Marty and I Marty, this band went away for a while, and then and then when the band came back, Marty and I got together, and then that's kind of when we got everything.

It's been ten years now, we've.

Been really out hitting it and you know, we recorded new music, playing all over the country and it's it's been quite an experience.

You know.

Well, tomorrow night, you guys are playing at the Wild Goose Saloon and Parker. It's a great little venue. It's like super cool. It is a very cool place to just be. First of all, I haven't seen a show there yet. Yeah. So because I'm you know, I'm a woman of a certain age, I like to be in bed by nine thirty.

So if you guys could do like a two pm.

Yeah, Honestly, we told our agent, Hey, we're cool with playing alone, and we're also cool with starting at eight and being done at nine thirty. But tomorrow is a special night because Rick Lewis has been a friend of mine Friday time.

I adore that man.

He's here somewhere.

I just saw him walking around somewhere.

I love Rick and the Rick Lewis Project is opening for you guys tomorrow, so it's gonna be a lot of fun. When you started this, or did you even think like this when you were young, because you know we're all invincible when we're young. Did you think to yourself, like, I hope I'm doing this in thirty years or was it one of those things where you thought, we'll do this as long as we.

Can t.

Like, oh man, rick Lewis, I hope I'm still around in ten years doing this playing music.

And you probably thought when I'm old in ten years that perspective changes so much. Yeah, exactly. So now that you guys are still how has your music changed? Because in the nineties, the big hit that you had and it's not just called daydream, what is it called? I know what it's called in a day dream? Thank you. I'm like, I know the song. Yeah song.

By the way, people they call it the wrong I mean all the time people come up to me like, oh.

Man, I love that song Living in Tuesday Morning, So it's a lie living in a dream, Yeah, Tuesday morning or like no wonder.

I mean that that song, you know, it was thirty years ago pretty much, and it's that song single handedly put the band on the map.

That was the song that didn't.

We actually re recorded it a couple of years ago, oh, for the thirtieth year anniversary, and we have a thirtieth anniversary edition streaming everywhere on our website, Freddie Jonesband dot Net.

Of that song, did you guys where I play it now in the summer? Was that a summer song?

It was?

You know, because I got to tell you I listened to it this morning because I haven't heard it in a long time, and it just took me back to this like one summer, and I remember all the things I did with my friends in that summer, and I remember going to the beach and hanging out and all

Yeah, you know, I can't remember what time of year it was when that came out. That was actually the second single off that record. They weren't even sure what to put out next after Take the Time that was the first single, and I remember kind of sitting back thinking, they're not going to.

Miss the boat on this. They're not going to like that's so obvious that that should be, and they did.

They got it right, So I'm thinking maybe it was probably going into that next summer.

I remember it being a summer song.

I remember it being a part of my summer.

I used to work with a classic not a classic rock, but an oldies program director, and he programmed his oldies station based on what was hitting at that moment. So if it was a winter hit, he would play it in the winter, and if it was a summer hit, he would play it on the summer. And I asked him, I was like, I don't understand why you're going to

Everybody chair, Yeah, you put me in the kids chair, Lensky chair.

That's what I'm gonna come from now after today's dumpster fire in the White House.

So yeah, that's that's the Volensky chair.

Well, it's gonna be a fun night tomorrow night.

Rich Ross and I go way back.

Yeah. In fact, he used to play in my band.

Really.

Oh yeah, your samples, but you didn't mention my band.

Yeah.

And then Marty, we opened for Freddie Jones' band the first show at the Pepsi Center back in nineteen ninety nine.

Oh yeah, you guys were a big time then. So we never met, but I'm gonna interest we're big time.

Rock is big time now.

Too, No big time.

You had a couple of big hits which you guys talked about, and hey, this this is a great band. You guys still sound incredible. Rich sends me your stuff all the time. And it's going to be a really good night tomorrow night.

It is going to be a good night. Yeah, I'm excited.

And it's your birthday and it's my birthday birthday act today, but we're saying, Marty, birthdays.

Are going to be cake because I'm coming to the show.

If there's gonna be cake.

I want to save room.

Yeah, you guys, everybody can come backstage and we have cake.

Yeah what kind of cake are you having?

And I'm gonna be on here about the cake. I want to make sure, don't know, I don't know what.

I'm sure Marty's running to King Sooper's right after this, if they're not still on strike or wherever.

Let's go have she It's always a better cake.

Yeah, she just letting you have she can. I'm sure he's got something huge plans for me.

You know me very well.

Yeah.

Can I ask you guys just a general question about the music industry, because your story about a guy coming and sitting there and watching you and then you get signed. We are now in a period of time when the Internet has democratized so much stuff, especially with music. My daughter listens to artists and I go, who is that. She's like, oh, it's so and so. I've never heard of them in my life. I go, well, where did

Now.

We do everything.

We finance everything on our own. We you know, set our own schedules. We I mean, that's how we're doing it now. It's great because you know, the band's legacy has got us to a position where you know, we're friends with everyone in the industry. You know, we were out with Train recently, Pats a friend of ours, Rob Thomas from Matchbox twenty, all these guys, they talk about taking us out on tour.

It hasn't happened yet, but it's something that we're hoping for. Right But we're doing this independent.

Guys have jobs on the side and and you know, do the band and and we just kind of schedule it.

Around what we want to do.

You know, We've got some really cool stuff coming up this summer, play all over the country, and you know, we'd like to do more, but the economy definitely is limiting live music.

Yeah, it's hard. I mean here we're in the kind of like the mecca of live music in Colorado, I think because we have so many options and so many incredible venues. But I talk to people around the country it's like they're not going to shows. And granted, I'm old now, so they're not going to shows. But we are very lucky here in Colorado to have the scene that we have.

You know what, it is hard to make money. Excuse me for jumping in in the in the record business story. I've got a couple of guys in my band that are recording artists as well. And you know they got a million or two downloads from Spotify, they get like a hundred bucks. Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty difficult unless you're a Taylor Swift or you know.

See million on merch alone at or stopping Denver. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, don't you think that's my concert? Tickets are so expensive right now?

These are very affordable.

They're twenty five bucks at the all the VIP stuff is sold out, but there's there're twenty five bucks to go see the band tomorrow night.

And it's going to be a blast. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm going to be there.

Does anybody need to know anything else?

Come on, we have a lot of friends. I grew up in Colorado and we have a lot of friends coming tomorrow. Hopefully Sean Kelly may even show up. He mentioned he might come out and you know. We that's the best part about traveling around.

I mean, Marty and I. We've done the anthem at the Cubs. You have first page. We've done cool.

You know, we go out and do all the we love sports. Marty and I are the sports guys in the band. We're watching football and the fall and baseball and going to games on on days that we have off, and and we we get to do these pretty cool experiences that are a lot of fun for us. And obviously growing up in Denver Broncos fan.

Again right now, it's gotten fun. This last seasons changed.

I was a little excited about that next season.

Yes, very much, so very much.

So.

You don't rich me up for tickets all the time.

I don't just hit him up for tickets. I hit them up for tickets to come to practice, you know, with.

The coach and I was in the locker room.

I don't know how long ago was that during during camp here, you know, I had I had a blast, And coach says he loves the band.

I don't know if that's that's true. You know what, just lean into it. Don't as follow up questions. Just go with the first response. Okay, it's fine, as long as he doesn't say yeah that Freddie wants he's a great guy. Yeah right, went over that. Okay, guys, it's time to wrap up the show. And every day at the end of the show, I play this stupid game. You want to play the stupid game with me? Nobody will you want to play? But I'm out stop, I have nothing to do right now.

No headphones, he's got.

It goes like this, first of all, but do me a favorite rick before you leave. When I get to the end of my think you yell in the world really loud. Okay, ready to go.

I now it's time for the most.

Exciting segment on the radio of It's Gone.

Of the day.

All right.

It works like this, guys, it's a dumb game.

Remember that.

First of all, we do Dad joke of the day. You can laugh, you can grow, and you can sit in quiet judgment of the joke. It's entirely up to you. A rod, what's our dad joke of the day? Dad joke of the day?

Little known fact before the crow bar was invented, crows simply drank at home.

Yeah, there you go. That is a dad joke for you.

And then we do word of the day where we guess what this word means and we get it wrong most of the time.

It is a verb verb propitiate, p R O, p I, T I A t E, propitiate, good luck, propitiate herb. Could I blurt it out? Yeah, go ahead, Yes, to lose your hair, Oh, I love that you might propitiate with losing your hair.

To complain or be upset or to complain, No, you got to shot, coun to contemplate.

To think that's a good play, cave or make peace with Ah, we're all wrong.

That was my next guest. Public schools. Yeah, there you go. What US Museum created the National Toy Hall of Fame in nineteen ninety eight. I think it's a Smithsonian. I feel like they were involved in that. Oh, I'm totally wrong. If you don't know it, you're not going to give it. Definitely the Denver Museum. No, No, it would be the Strong National Museum of Play in Rochester, New York.

I bet you were, Marty, I bet you were yep, right on the tip of his tongue.

No, nothing, everybody knows that. To play Jeopardy right, sure here instead of buzzing because we don't want buzzers. You shout out your name, Marty or Rich okay, and then we call on you, and then you answer the question in the form of a question. I will wait until the end of the question because your guests and I'm trying to be nice. Normally it's a blood sport. You can jump in at any time, okay, so jump in whatever you know the answer?

Go ahead.

What's our category?

Peaceful words? Peaceful words words? Okay, still or nearly still? Keep this and carry on.

Mandy, what is calm? Correct?

You guys gotta jump in?

See about halfway.

Between extremes or one who communicates with spirits?

Mandy? What is a medium that is correct?

It's okay, everybody loses this part.

It's music. Pian means very this.

You're a musicians channelmen, pianissimo.

Do you know this?

I don't know it. I'm not a musician. I don't know that word. I know, I've never heard of it. I don't even know what you guess is softly? Okay? Softly? This wasn't in the re fa.

Proverbially you do this to your heels when you're kept waiting, Rich, what is clicking wrong?

Oh?

Wait, damn it?

What do you do, Mandy?

What do you tap?

No?

Oh?

Wow?

What is cool?

Oh?

That's cool?

And finally, often used when describing plain food, this five letter word means not highly flavored, maybe even tasteless.

Rich what is planned? That is correct?

Yeah?

Are no rich?

Richmith's one right there? So that was a fine showing though you're on the board rich at zero. Guys, I appreciate that. I told you it was a dumb game. Don't feel that nobody ever wins. That gets us thinking, That gets us thinking. I've been playing that game for twenty five years doing this show. Twenty years doing this show. So you always win? No, I don't.

Actually you would.

Think you would think that I would always win, but I don't. Sometimes the longer the more you play, the better at it you'll get, and then people start to beat me. So I only let people play once.

Anyway, We will be back on Monday, Heday.

I hope you guys can make it to the Wild Goose Saloon. Get your tickets on I put a link on the blog and Freddie jonesband dot net. You can go on there. All the information's on there as well. Excellent. We will be back on Monday.

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