If you've listened to the show for any length of time, you know I love to talk about health and longevity and how to be the happiest, healthy su you can be for the longest amount of time. And I'm extremely excited about My next guest is doctor mul Kapoor. He's a cardiologist, researcher, and healthcare innovator. He owns over seventy plus patents in digital health, genomics, and AI driven healthcare solutions, and he talks about these things that I love all
the time. This is what he does, Doctor Kapoor, Welcome to the show.
First of all, thank you so much for having me today. Thank you. Well, I want to start.
You know, we talk a lot about not just living a long time, but living a healthy life. And one of the things that I feel like people are really starting to understand in a way I don't recall my lifetime, and that is the effect of stress on our overall health.
So how much of a role.
Does stress play in someone's you know, healthy link lifespan.
Well, it's guss play a huge role.
If we feel stressed today and our cortisol levels, the stress hormones goes high and it stays high for about seven hours. When that is happening, our body is aging faster and the happy hormones, the serotonins are not there to help counteract, say these cortiso levels. The longer it means higher the faster we age. So happiness is very very important. The happy people live longer. So what we need to understand is how to manage this stress, and they have a strategy.
We have stress in our life. Everyone has it. I have it too. The key is how do we handle.
It stressful stressful situations and how we can balance our mental health.
So the cortisol levels, the stress.
Hormones are not higher, not peaking, and other hormones are also not peaking, and our heart feels good and happy and we are at a peaceful place, so we end up living longer. So stress plays a huge role other things. How stress harms us. We take the wrong calls. Whenever we are stressful. We tend to pick up the bad habits either not exercising, pick up a call, use, pick up smoking, use, and all those things do contribute in bad health and we are not able to live longer,
so not have a healthy, happy life. So that's why it's very important to manage stress and so we can stay calm, take the right calls and exercise every day.
You know, doctor Kapoor, the stress management thing is it sounds great? You know, of course we need to manage our stress. But I after we have this conversation, we have a text line where listeners can send text messages to us. I will get text messages that say, I know I need to manage my stress. I have no idea how to do that. So I mean, what kind of advice do you give to people? And is it, you know, is there a one size fits all thing or is it a process to find out what really works for you?
Well, everyone is individual.
So anyone who's feeling stressed out today or anyone who's listening to you today, I will tell them to look into your gut, the gut feeling you have, and the gut feeling is true because there is a connection gut to brain. If you're feeling stressed, if you're feeling sad today, if you're feeling depressed today, currente, you have unhealthy gut today. Your gut microbiome is not the right one in your stomach. You're not making the happy hormone. The serotonins ninety percent
over are made in your stomach. So if you don't have the healthier microbiome, you don't have the right strategies to manage a stress. Yes, people can say take a deep bread, go for a walk, go for exercise, punching back, whatever strategy you have or write it out on the journal. So yes, there are multiple strategy people try. But if you don't have the right defense mechanism, if you're not empowered, if you don't have the right army in your.
Stomach, the right gut microbiome, you are not going.
To be successful in those of the strategies because what are you going to do is you're going to make less serotonin. Now you have less of those happy hormones, and the cycle will continue viciously. So the first step is understand the gut brain access, understand your gut microbiome, and then have a dietary plan made on the gut microbiome. That's the first step you should do. Afterwards, you should get into exercise programs and monitor your cut microbiome is
getting held you're not getting hellier. If it's getting hellier, then continue the process. You'll notice now suddenly you have this power in your body. You're able to handle these stresses. Nothing fazes you anymore. So now you can add on other techniques, debreeding, perhaps exercising more, perhaps writing journals, but they will be more successful, more empower you. But the core of your strategy should be everything based on a cut microbui.
I mean, that's kind of interesting that we've now come back here, because I believe it was Hippocrates that said all health begins in the gut in like four hundred or something a lot. I remember that from my Greek history. But now we've come back this way. What is throwing our people's what would throw your gut microbiome off? What would make it not be working properly?
Well, first things fast, we start with the hyper processed foods. If you're going to use a hyper process ultra processed foods every day, will not have a healthy gut. If you're going to use foods that are a lot of chemicals, a lot of pesticize, a lot of.
Ingredients, we don't understand.
We go to the stores these days and pick up anything in the shelf. There half the stuff you have no idea. You buying a peanut butter, they'll put in three five other things in peanut butter. Peanut butter should be just a peanut butter if you don't have anything else inside.
But if you can started putting these.
Extra multifiers, extra cans to stabilize it as special colorings, so they do interact in your stomach. They do make a microbiome unhealthier. You don't feel it, but eventually start to feel stomach cup set, acidic feelings, You start to feel bloating, gas constipations. So all those symptoms lead to a bad stomach cup set. You go see a doctor. What a doctor do you give it to? You tant to give it to your pentaprozole ome prozole
You?
zen tag and perhaps you buy some pink drinks on the shelf and you get a limited relief at that time. But the longer you're continuing with your strategy, you are now killing your good cut microbiome. The unhealthy one is now getting more stronger. Now you're feeling more upset, You're feeling more sad. So what you have to do is go back to the science, original science.
Have good food.
Good foods are whole grain, whole food dyet, which is a fresh foods and vegetables which is a multi grain color of foods.
UH. Cut down your processed foods. That's the first time.
You should do if you truly want to make your gut microboum healthier.
So you mentioned that your company actually does this kind of testing. So what do you guys test for and what happens after someone does a test? What happens after that?
Well, very amazing clinical. We have created one of a kind in the word level global level. It's called Biogutclinic dot com UH and we have a titians and psychologists. This clinic was all started with a patient with IBS. We know edative power syndrome is linked with stress. Every third woman has IBS. Every fifth human on this or has IBS. Most of my doctors were treating them with pentaprozole, ome prozole, zendidin other peptobisimo and bunch of those medications.
It was harming the gut barrier.
In the stomach and it was leading them to more toxin absorption, more disease creation with diabetes or problems. And these patients IBS were suffering for decades. So we had patients got enrolled in in this program where we have dietitians follow them. They get to know they're eating habits.
They do their.
Initial cut microbiome. There's a three month program. They don't recommend any medication, they don't recommend any supplemented, they don't recommend nothing. They'll say, look, we started the gut microbiome, establish a baseline. Now a three months we follow you, will give you your meal plans and the food you can buy where you live right now, and we touch point.
We have five to seven touch points in three month.
Journey and and a three month journey. We'll check it again with the cut of microbiome. See it's getting better, and how there and how you're feeling with the dietary interventions. Amazing results we have seen. We have women twenty five years of suffering with IBS. They're feeling better and healthy and graduating from the program. No supplements given, no special dietary package was sold to them, no.
Drugs were sold to them.
It's just working in their behavior that they have in their grosser store, closer home, in their pantries.
That's about it.
I'm glad that we are having a conversation and regardless of the controversial nature of some of RFK Junior's positions. I'm really glad that he has pushed this conversation to the forefront about our food because to your point, there's too much in my view ultra processed foods. And I know they taste good, you know, they really taste good. But I'm glad we're having the conversation that we're having, doctor kofor this is fascinating stuff. I mean, just really
fascinating stuff. I want to ask you. You have a bunch of patents, you sort of work on genomic level investigations of human health. How close are we to having a system or is this what you do now where you can tell someone specifically everything they should eat, not just like a blanket one size fits all, but this is the best food for that specific person based on their gene How close are we to getting that kind of personalized level of service.
Thank you so much for asking, and we are already here. I practiced my life that way. I'm a practicing cardiology in Canada, and I learned through my own body through genomic sequencing, microbiome sequencing, epigenomic sequencing. My wife, being a dietitian from Calgary, we learned through our own science which have been practicing in Calgary was different than what you were learning in our own labs and what we noted that many times people we are prescribing drugs are wrong.
In my own practice, I.
Was noticing that I gave a ask pain to people and that every seventh or tenth person is a non responder is a well established documented in clinical research. There are people a non responded to ask when we still give them, they get stomach.
Upset ulcers, leaders, but we still gave them.
Many people are intolerant to statins, Many people in tolerant to many blood pressure medication.
We still give.
Them because a guidlance recommend them. Why we don't know who's going to respond, who's not going to respond. We just wait for them to respond, hopefully in a better way. And then we are patients with the coreinity disease, the blockage in the heart artery. Some are getting the recurrent heart a head, some are not getting a heart deck at all.
So there's a variation out there.
So one glove it all approach is wrong in medicine. So that intrigued me to establish a company Biowaaro the research we did it so I practiced medicine personally in my life, my family, my kids through personalized way. And give you one example. So during COVID time, I got some sinocydis. At that time, one of the doctors recommended me to take antibiotic.
I took it. Guess what happened. My body reacted to antibiotic. I end up developing ig of ascoltis.
I asked my dramatology friend, say, can you see what is ration I'm having on my feet? He did a quick biopsy and we noticed ig oscolitis. Yes, I required as doest shorten misteroid treatment. Luckily I dodged a bullet. My kids could have been killed from that. So that's where I learned the more importance. So I don't take any drug in my mouth personally, I don't give to my kids unless the pharmac eagenomically is safe. It is individualized to them. I don't want to be a test
trial for former company. I want to be individual dosages and I want to know what side effact they could have before I give them or before I take my own medications if I have to. That's number one. Number two, that diet is very very important. I learned from my own gut microbiome. The type of diet was keeping me healthier and happier and also reducing my chance. So inflammation in my body. We know inflammation is making us age faster. Many disease are linked to inflammation and foods are linked
to inflammation. So when I learned it, I started to practice that. My wife diet teas so she helped me along the way. So that's what we able to create these patterns, these in a ways, and they are there, and it hurts me. It pains me the technology we
have today and the people don't have an access. Give you one example, so hold you NOM sequencing the whole genome data and we made it one of the cheapest holding NOOM sequencing in Western HANDI sphere in me from cality lab, people can access any time from a drop of a blood, they can get a whole genome sequence in much much more affordable.
What was happening in my own lab.
It took my company three months to analyze my whole genome, being the first in my lab.
And then then realizes that globally.
People are not not getting the report for wee one month, two months and people have no idea what is happening in their life. So we built a technology word's fastest genomic platform called panomic.
It is an AI power.
What it does it it does a real time analysis of one hundred GP data one DN is one hundred GIP data and you can add on brillions of data sets from microbiome imaging hormones. So what does is this A brilliant, amazing mind we have created in Calgary from Canada.
We're the only company globally it.
Can does analysis in five minutes a report a lab in the America, hour in Canada from some other.
Lab company, it will take you one two months. You can report using.
The Epanomena technology which we unveiled in Silicon Valley last month and people saw that hands on how fast is the data coming in? So we are today at a cusp where we can start delivering it to people. So I'm glad with the new US administration they're pushing the limit.
We have the technologies.
What we have to do now is give it in the hands of the people, the doctors, the nurses, so they can take the right call when it matters.
How accurate is the AI program versus those traditional results.
Thank you so much for asking this question. If you google Biovaro bioar.
Last year we achieved something under something remarkable. Usually what happened is is a lab, the genetic testing labs across the world.
It's a well published literature.
They say when you are matching data, say for seeing human data, you take it from one lab and sequence another lab. If you imagine by in ninety to ninety five percent between the lab interpretation, it's a good standards considered as per College of American Pathology.
So it was a all entered program.
So we asked our team to reach out to CAMP College of American Pathologists, get a WGS sample, holding on sample and do an analysis through an AI and see how accurate this report comes back. Maybe the AI is wrong. The interpretation data we have in Calvy lab. So we got the sample. They didn't share any history with us. They didn't tell us a man or a woman, or ethnicity, or a past medical history or the drug they're using the stand as a sample.
We ran the sample.
Through our lab, through over the AI algorithms, and we share report with CAMP last year and the report came back to us.
When we're opening the report, it's a.
Truthful I was telling my team that Hey, we are ninety percent match. Will be so happy that we achieved something really really cool in science when we opened the report.
When the report came to us, it was one hundred percent match. Think of this way.
One genome has a three billion bayspaer over eight billion possibilities of a variation being called out wrong. Our AI did not call a single false positive or a single false negative. It was such an amazing, unbelievable news that came out.
We had to send a press release.
Ask my scientific team global in Europe and in America.
They said, are you sure it is true?
Reason more, we have never heard that any lap can match one hundred percent with the whole genome sequencing with a cap. It's so rare to occur to happen. So we achieve that singularity. We keep that accuracy there. Now we have to empower people, giving people's hand. That's the task we have to do today.
Well, I put on the blog. I got a lot of people send in questions. Do you have a book. That's a question I just got you have a book, doctor Kapoor.
Thank you for asking you use the magician. You're in my mind and my listeners.
We didn't prepare these question. I had no idea. So, yes, we have books coming up. It's called Eternal Life. The book has been written and the second book will be coming all be called Becoming God. How we can become a perfect how we can be consistent strong mentally.
Uh. And so those books will be coming out later.
The HS Eternal Life will be the first one and the second will be the Becoming God.
So those two books have.
Been written already, and right now my team is talking to publishers and we're look into getting people's hand as soon as possible.
Well, I've also linked on the blog today at your Facebook page or Twitter page or Instagram, so people want to follow you and get more more information.
About what you do.
I do have this last question and we only have like a minute left, Doctor Kapoor. So can courtisol be measured because you mentioned cortisol the beginning of this interview.
Yes, cortes can use man measure through your saliva testing to your blood testing. Usually early in the morning. We should be measuring it afternoon. Late the evening is not a good accurate measurement.
Okay, So you just want when you wake up in the morning is when you want to measure it exactly, all right, doctor Kapoor. You can find all of his ways to follow him and learn more and find out about bio Aura on the blog today at mandy'sblog dot com. Doctor Kapor, thank you so much for your time making This is a fascinating conversation, I mean a really fascinating conversation, and I look forward. I'm going to be reading more about what you guys are doing. I think it's super interesting.
Thank you for making time today.
Thank you so much for having me.
All right, have a great day.