02-20-25 FULL SHOW - Right To Work Could Go National

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We welcome to my Thursday edition of the show. I'm your host for the next three hours, Mandy Connell. I've got Anthony Rodriguez here with me. He's a rod and together we will take you right up until three pm. Right now, the Senate is voting on cash Bettel for FBI directors, so many to be watching that as it happens, they just cut away from the tally to go to a rally attended by none other than Senator Adam Schiff,

Is there a worst one?

Throughout the years, There's always been like one or two that though beyond being just awful, and they just take.

It next level.

And Adam Schiff is one of those people. For me, it's an embarrassment that the people of California elected him to the US Senate and absolute embarrassment. So the Senate is voting right now. We're yes twenty nine, no sixteen. I out of all of Trump's nominations, I think I am the most excited to see what Cash Betel does next because he's gonna hit the ground running. He's already familiar. It's it's gonna be fascinating. Okay, let me tell you what's on the blog. Got a big blog as normal.

But.

There's a few things that I want to talk about.

That aren't on this blog.

As a matter of fact, I just confirm with Leland Conway, my fellow former Kentucky resident, and Leland calls himself with Kentucky, so he was there longer than I was, but we both have thoughts on Senator to Mitch McConnell, and I was like, hey, Leland, come on the show and we'll swap Mitch McConnell's stories because I got a couple good ones, really good ones. So he's gonna come on at one, but let me do what's on the blog and then

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Today on the blog could we get a national right to work bill? What is the endgame? On Ukraine?

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No Elon isn't sending five thousand dollars checks? How do you solve the Courtland Sutton problem? And what did she fight for in the campaign about the Gulf of America. New York doesn't want any federal money and this is tacky, bad lip reading Lady Gaga, how to not be hungry? Those who are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog

And really interesting stuff. I mean, I think it's interesting.

But today's she's got a really good video on GLP one's like ozempic, and don't if you're on ozepic, don't think, oh, I don't want to see a video about someone.

Hating on it. She's not hating on it.

She's just she will explain to you in great detail how those drugs work. It's super fascinating. But she also tells you ways you can without She sells the product, but she'll even tell you in other videos you don't have to buy the product. She has these glucose hacks that she talks about and I've started implementing them in my own life.

And they're not complicated. They're things like eat.

Vegetables first, you know, before your carbous meal, drink a glass of water with a tablespoonful of apple cider vinegarant. I mean, there are things like that, and I am here to tell you they seem to be very effective in terms of how I feel managing my energy. I don't have cravings or crashes anymore. It's just super interesting. So her videos on the blog today, and then for no reason, Lady Gaga somebody did some bad lip reading

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No, we're going to talk about that a little bit later on the show. I'm talking about the fluffy ones now, I mean scrolling, going back up. Okay, here's what we got going on today. First of all, we have the President Mark mix of the National Right to Work Committee on today because a bill has been filed by Ran Paul and I cannot remember who the co sponsor is, but I'll get it from him that would federalize right to work. That essentially says you have the right to

That argument has been put to bed a long time ago. But it does allow people the freedom to say, we don't want to do that.

So we're going to talk to Mark Mixed about that at one pm. Oh, I just realized that's when I got Leland here. I'll get Leland at two thirty. Well, for some reason, I thought he was at two or two thirty. That's fine, I'll move Leland.

So that's coming up.

I'm very interested to see what that would look like and the feasibility of it with a Republican controlled House and Senate. I also want to ask him about the nominee for Labor Secretary. I have grave concerns about her, and I don't know why she was nominated in.

The first place, to be honest. So we'll talk to him about both of those at one o'clock.

So I've been talking a lot about the stuff that Trump has been doing that I really like. I've been talking yesterday specifically about how overwhelming the sheer volume of things coming out of the White House is right now. And it is really overwhelming from my perspective, because my job is to consume these stories and then be able to translate what's going on to you guys. But everything feels very off kilter and unpredictable right now. So it's

But then yesterday I was like, you know, there's a couple things that I don't like.

I don't like him trying to reposition the Ukraine War as Ukraine started it.

That is ridiculous. And now though he did something that I think most New Yorkers will adore him for. We don't have this here in Denver, but I'm sure they're planning it somehow. In Denver.

They're just going to put a lock a toll booth at either end of twenty five around Denver.

In Manhattan, you've got to pay to get into.

The city, right, You got to cross the bridge, you got to go through a tunnel.

All of those things are told and.

New York passed what they called congestion pricing. It's basically the same as surge pricing for uber, meaning if you've ever had to if you're like leaving an event and you've spent seventeen dollars in an uber to get there, and you go to pull the exact same route the other way, a lot of times it'll be double because all of a sudden, all of these people are leaving this event, right, that's surge pricing. Congestion pricing is exactly

I don't I don't know who controls the tolling.

Now that I'm thinking about it, some of those could be federals. So maybe the you know, federal government does have a role here.

Now if New York.

Because I've got audio from Kathy Okul, the governor of New York.

She is salty about this, y'all. She is salty.

But if New York wants to take over all the maintenance of those roadways, I guess you know, they could get the federal government out of it. What my issue is with none of that. I don't care about congestion pricing. I don't ever drive into New York City. I really don't care. I fly in, then I pay someone to drive me in, and then I'm in.

So what am I? What am I salty about?

Well?

Uh oh, Cash Hotel forty five forty five. It's coming out of the wire anyway. After doing this, the White House sent out a post on truth Social and it is a magazine cover that looks like Time magazine, only it says Trump across the top he's got a crown on and the caption at the bottom is long Live the King. Now, if I had seen this on the Internet and someone else had posted it a fan of Donald Trump, right, it would.

Have been one thing.

But I found this incredibly distasteful coming from the White House. This is so braggadocious in a way to a group of people whose ancestors or you know, founding fathers fought against a tyrannical king.

I don't like this at all.

There are things happening right now and Aterid sent me a video today where the White House again sends out a video of people being deported. Now, I don't have a problem with people putting out videos of people being deported, I really don't.

This is what people voted for, right, So I think that.

People should see the outcome of what they're doing without humiliating and I mean, don't show people's faces and things of that nature. But this is what people voted for, right I think they need to see what it looks like in practice.

I mean, there's vala.

Not the problem.

It is the.

I'm not there yet. I'm getting there. So the problem that I have with the video is not what it's depicting. It is that it was sent out in a very cheeky tweet with the headline ASMR Illegal Alien Deportation Flight. Now, if you don't know what ASMR is, they're videos that have very soothing sounds or soothing video.

It's carpet cleaning videos.

Why would anyone watch a carpet cleaning video because it's soothing to hear the hum.

Of the carpet cleaner.

So ASMR videos are very popular, but this is so incredibly just rude and disrespectful to the humanity of the people that are being deported. And yeah, I know they're criminals. I know they all committed more crimes than just breaking into the country. I get that, but they are still human beings and they are still you know, being walked up the stairs in shackles.

And they're making a joke about it. That's just gross.

I am as you know, all for social media creativity. It's one of the most vile, disgusting, putrid things I think I have ever seen on any It is annoys, it is crossing the line, and it is just it is just so disgusting, and I think that the majority of people that watch that are going to have a

Well, and then.

Again, this is coming from the White House. This isn't This isn't some internet hacker that makes a funny video that everybody sends around. Look, some guy made this ASMR video about these deportation videos. They're they're making light of of, uh, the plight of human beings. They're they're criminals.

I get it, but you want to you want to see some some kind of humanity.

So between this and the King thing, I am not. I got a bad taste in my mouth right now. And I'm sad about that because there's so much great stuff going on right now. We have doge that is doing a deep dive that is so deep as freaking everyone out. We have a government that is actually working to make itself smaller for the first time in my lifetime, right that's never happened.

We have someone who is working on securing our borders.

And has sent a message to those people who would have been tempted to walk across the southern border.

That those days are over. I mean, there's a lot of really good stuff happening.

We're deporting criminals who are here illegally, that is great, but we don't need to dip our toe into this kind of mockery on any level. It demeans the importance of what is actually happening here, and I just thought it was wrong.

Again.

I don't have a problem with making a video of people being deported, I really don't.

But what I would have preferred in this video is.

If you're deporting someone who has committed a violent crime after they came here illegally, let me know this person murdered someone or is accused of murder or whatever.

Tell me that.

Otherwise you have the means of the world thinking instead of instead of being newsworthy b roll, you're, like you said, poking fun at it. And again without context, you have no idea who some of these people are. Yeah, to your point, fact of the matter at bottom line, are they criminals? Yes, I understand the factual matter of that, so I don't need the texture blowing me up on that.

What I'm saying is without you pointing out who.

These individuals specifically are, poking fun at people that who knows their stories could be. They fought tooth and nail, life or death to make a decision illegal yes, to come here, and that disgusting of a gesture towards them is just crossing the line.

It's crossing the line. It's vile, it's disgusting.

I I agree.

And this is the kind of stuff that makes me not like Donald Trump. This is the kind of stuff because someone in the White House. Do I think Donald Trump made this video and tweeted it out? No, I don't, But someone in the White House decided this was a good idea, and now it has almost one.

Hundred million views. I mean, come on, come on, and people are commenting in the affirmative here's one. Everybody is freaking out about how this looks.

But considering that most of the current deportees are much more severe criminals than just your average border jumpers or restraints, et cetera, are well within reason.

Great, then tell the stories. Please tell the stories.

Tell the stories of what these people are being accused of or convicted of or whatever.

Or if it's newsworthy b roll without context. That's one thing you're seeing people getting to pored you've seen them, the planes are getting put on, you're seeing the treatment of them, whether it be positive or negative.

Whatever it is, it's newsworthy.

B role.

We're seeing the video of it happening. Because it's something newsworthy happening. That's one thing, But to do it in this fashion is just unbelievable. So I'd love to know your thoughts. And here's what I'm asking, and this is going to be a two part question. Question number one is what have you loved so far about the Trump administration? Question number two is is anything giving you the ick? As the kids say anything?

And by the way, one of my friends said, are you sorry you voted for him? And I said, no, I'm not. I'm really not. At this stage in the game, I'm not.

Are there things that I wish you would do differently, Yes, we're talking about them right now.

But I don't regret my.

Vote because things are happening right now in government that I never thought would happen in my lifetime, and I happen to believe they're the kind of things that have to happen in order for our country to survive and for our children and our grandchildren to have a.

Place a vibrant place to grow up.

So yeah, I'm not sorry, but some of this stuff five six six nine zero text us on the Common Spirit Health text line. We'll be right back before the break we were talking about. You know, Donald Trump's first month in office has been like nothing I've ever seen or recalled in my life ever. And there are things that I have absolutely loved that have happened in the Trump administration. Then there are things that that I really don't like, that that I do not have a level

And I asked you guys, what are the things that you love that Trump has done? And what are the.

Things that you're like, Oh, yeah, don't know about that one. So I've got a whole bunch coming in on the Common Spirit Health text line. You can text us at five six six.

I know, here we go, Mandy.

I love what he's doing, I don't like how he's doing them. We need congressional assistants instead of all these executive orders.

You know, I hate executive.

Orders, and unless Congress comes in and really starts to codify some of this stuff in the law, they're meaningless after he's out of office, right, I hate it. That being said, I said this a couple like a week and a half ago, and I think it's a great analogy. I mean, Donald Trump learned a lot about the intractable nature of government in his first term, and he knows that if he doesn't move fast, then none of this

I can't stand it.

I'm watching that very closely, but I am taking a slightly different wait and see approach because I don't think that Trump is as.

Enamored and fooled.

By Vladimir Putin as a lot of people on the left think he is. I think all of this is part of a negotiating tactic because he really wants to bring peace in the Ukraine War. For a couple of reasons. He doesn't want to spend the money. He doesn't like Zolensky, that's clear, because they've been going at each other, and the president Zelinsky is a moron for coming back at Trump. We don't need Ukraine, they need us, we don't need them.

That King talk. Did not like that crap. Well, you know I feel about.

That, Mandy.

I love that Trump is not letting the grass grow under his feet. But for God's sake, think before you say dumb things. Well, he's you know, Mandy, I think the people that always accused people of voting for Trump refuse to understand that many, many more people were voting against Biden. Pardon me, heiris and all the buffoonery the Democratic Party was up to. It's just a Trump derangement syndrome. But let's be really you guys.

A lot of people voted for Donald Trump. I mean a lot of people voted for Donald Trump.

He's not without huge numbers of fans, Mandy number one, doing what he said he'd do number two. His crazy tweets are back, yes, Texter, And isn't that you just encapsulated my whole argument here, really, Mandy, this King thing and video are awful, and him saying recently the Ukraine started the war as inaccurate either. I guess those are the only things that I think are ridiculous. I gotta tell you, I kind of think the Gulf of America thing is ridiculous. I don't know, Mandy. Trump was never

We'll see, Mandy.

A month ago, I was telling people how proud I was that President Trump wasn't getting into all these little petty arguments. I spoke too soon, but regret my vote. The Socialist Democrat Party makes that choice easy, Mandy. I'm still giving Trump a lot of leeway right now. I don't love anything, but if country was a terrible, a termite infested house, I would want every board to be inspected. I don't want it to be neat, but I do want it to be fixed and on budget. I think

And that's a fact.

So it's been really interesting to watch them sort of defend that and not recognize that that's not exactly what the American.

People voted for.

Mandy.

I am beyond elated that it was God's will for President Trump to be re elected. Do I support every decision in his administration? Absolutely not, do you, But overall I feel way more hopeful about the direction we are headed. I continue to pray for God to transform Trump's heart, and that's a great, great prayer, Mandy. Last time there were people trying to sabotage Trump. Do you think it is possible that the video and King thing could be a rogue staff member intentionally trying.

To set upset people.

That is altogether possible, But they know who has access to their social media, right. It's not like anybody in the White House can just log into Twitter, so there's probably a select number of people that have access to the White House's Twitter account. That's not something you just give out, Willy Nilly.

Man.

It's unfortunate Trump has such a bedside, poor bedside manner. It's like taking some bad tasting medicine as a child that will eventually cure you. That's a great way to look at it, Mandy, that the current administration is looking for waste is good.

In fact that Trump continues to spout.

Wise such as Zelensky is an unelected dictator and exaggerations and no one from the right dare to call him out on it just gives credence to all the despicable actions that those he leaves in his wake, if he ever leaves, will continue and expound on unchecked. The future is a frightening prospect under these people. I don't disagree with I mean, I don't agree with that at all.

Help you, especially if you listen to this show. You're just locked in a delusion of your own making and your own suffering. So so so many of you, so many of you. This one coming here illegally is not a victimless crime.

I'm shocked that people in blank Hole, Colorado hate Trump Lol. Coming here illegally is not a victimless crime. But it's not a violent crime, and it's not a crime against

You look at construction.

Wages, You look at any of the trades where you have a lot of I'd say, I'll call it skilled labor. It's not unskilled labor, but it's relatively easy to pick up, and you can get into it with a There's a very low barrier to entry any of those kinds of trades.

A lot of those wages have been depressed for a very long time.

But if someone comes over here and they somehow begin to work, most of the time, there's some kind of identity theft there. They're going to use a social Security number that's not there, So that too, is another situation that needs to be resolved.

But if they go about their business.

And they work, and they pay taxes and they live here, I do think that they should be treated differently than someone who comes over here to commit crimes or live off the government in any way, shape or form.

I think that's different.

Mandy.

I don't like that he's so focused on revenge and retribution. That should not be his high priority. You know, I had this conversation with a friend of mine who said the almost the exact same thing, word for word, and I said, the problem is the reason that all this seems like it's all being ripped apart, root and branch is that the level of malfeasance that was directed at Donald Trump in his first administration by different organizations in the government is so egregious that I don't think you

We should never allow the.

Department of Justice be used as a political weapon again ever.

And I know people are like, well, Trump's.

Using it as a political you know what, Trump is rooting people out so far, I'll believe it when I see charges get filed. But for all of his talk about lock her up, lock her up, nothing ever happened Hillary.

So we shall see, Mandy. I don't like Donald Trump. I do want him to.

Make America great again, but I think it's going to take about six months to a year before we see any true results.

Dan, I think it's going to be eighteen months.

I mean, I I the kind of disruptions that we're seeing now, and it remains to be seen what Doge does. It remains to be seen what Congress does when it comes to the budget. But I wouldn't be surprised if we had a sharp short recession, but a sharp V recession. Now, there are a couple different kinds of well, there's a lot of different kinds of recessions. But for the point of this conversation, you can have a U shape recession,

We saw during the.

The government created recession during COVID when they out everybody's business is down, exactly what trying to fix our recession, especially when created by the government, ends up doing.

And we all have stimmy.

Checks to think for the just ridiculous amount of inflation we've been dealing.

With since then.

So I'm not down for that.

But that being said, I do think.

It's eighteen months before we're going to get a handle on what we're actually looking at in terms of the direction of the country and the economy and government and so much. I mean, I'm over here with my popcorn, just waiting to see what comes next. Because I do believe, and I believe this firmly.

I do believe that.

President Trump has an endgame, has a strategy, has a planned in mind. I do believe that we just don't know what it is yet, which is a little disconcerting. One of the things I'd love to see happen in Congress is I would love to see a federal right to work bill pass. There is one being proposed by Ran Paul and we are going to talk to Mark Mix. He's the president of the National Right to Work Committee. We're going to do that next.

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I'm your host, Mandy Connell, and joining me now to talk about something that could be a pretty big deal is Mark Mix with the National Right to Work Committee.

Mark.

Welcome to the show.

Mandy, good beyond with you. Thanks for the opportunity to chat a little bit.

Well, I want you to start by telling people what the National Right to Work Foundation actually does. What are you guys doing, what are you advocating for? Explain to the audience what a right to work looks like.

Thank you, Yes, And it's very very simple, Mandy. We believe that every worker should have the right to join a union, should be able to associate with the union if they want to do so, but they shouldn't be compelled as a condition of employment to join or pay dues to a labor union to get or keep a job.

So I'm going to play Devil's advocate here for a moment, mark and just throw this out. So what about the reception that right to work is inherently anti union.

Well, that's just not the case. Basically, in right to work states, where there are laws protecting workers being from being forced to join or pay dues, union densities actually higher than states that don't have right to work laws. Union officials will tell you this because they want the money. They want the compulsion, they want the force. It's a pretty good business model if you can get it that

So what does that look like?

And have you had the opportunity to maybe choose the best of the best, because there are so many states that already have right to work laws? How was this law crafted? Were you guys involved in this in any way?

What does that look like?

Yeah?

Absolutely, The bill that Ran Paul introduced, literally, Mandy, is a one page bill. It's a one page bill. In the era of five thousand pages pieces of legislation that some congressional members say we have to pass to find out what's in it. That's not the case here. It's literally a one page bill. It does not add a

I've always find it odd.

That the union folks that I've had on the show, and I have had over my twenty years of having a show, I've spoken with union reps from a variety of industries, and when I ask them why they have to force people to pay dues if they're doing such a good job, they inevitably default back to like it's a matter of fairness. Why should they benefit from a contract we negotiated and not pay into the system. And my thinking is, how is this not a fundamental violation of my right to free association?

Anyway? And are we in a position now?

There's a two part question here, Mark, Are we in a position now where unions that were instrumental in getting workers' safety protections passed, and labor laws that tell us how long we can work, and things of that nature that we all.

Sort of enjoy.

Now, have they outlived their usefulness in that measure a little bit?

Yeah?

I don't think so. I think the idea of workers joining together voluntarily to amplify their voice is a good thing, and that's something and is protected by federal law, as you and I talk right now. But the idea of compulsion enforces the other question, you know, union officials, to your point, you use the word, they will default back

Away from work.

And one of the conditions of usually in a usion contract is, look, the only way you get more pay is by sticking around for a year longer. The idea of merit pay is something that is an anathema to a lot of workers who are working very, very hard, very you know, very productively, and they're doing it because they want to, because they enjoy their work, or they know that hopefully if they work harder or faster, they

I mean, when you put it like that, it doesn't sound that good. Mark just to say yeah, no. I mean the notion that somehow if I've never worked in a union shop, and that's by design. I was offered one job that was a union shop and I.

Just said, no, thank you.

I'm a meritocratist sort of person, so I want to be able to rise as fast as I can rise. And one of the things I've always thought about unions is that their job is to protect the worst among us. Right, Their job is not to protect the best worker. It's their job is to protect the worst worker. And that seems like a terrible place to be and a sort of a depressing reality.

And we see it play out.

Over and over again when we see horrible teachers that can't be fired, or bad cops that have another shot at the apple because of the union contract.

I mean, there's a lot of downsides to this.

So where are we in the chances of this bill getting passed in this particular Congress.

Well, it's a long road to hope or a long road to ho I guess to say that correctly. But look, the important thing is we get the bill introduced, We lobby members of Congress. We actually have Americans lobby members of Congress to co sponsor and support the bill. When we get to a certain point, the pressure will be on the leadership to have a vote. And what we would like to have, manyes, just have a vote on

Want to support.

Once they do that, we know this Donald Trump, he basically got support from a majority, a large majority of private sector union members across the country, despite the fact that union officials in the country, the leaders the biggest unions. We're spending literally tens of millions of dollars to support Kamala Harris, and yet their rank and file members who they claim to represent, have a completely different view about politics.

Can I take you on a sidewinder here.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on Trump's nominee for Labor secretary. She has supported the pro Act in the past, which is definitely pro coercion.

Did that surprise you to Did that cut you off guard?

Yeah?

It did it.

Did you know we were talking with the Trump transition team that was working on these issues. Right after the election. We had a couple of meetings with them talking about it, and it was kind of regular order, Mandy. They were taking names and asking people to submit information about positions they may want to have in the Labor Department, including

Mark Vitz is my guest.

He's the president of the National Right to Work Foundation. Mark obviously will be following the progress of this bill quite closely, and you and I can touch base when there's updates in the near future.

I hope.

Many.

I would appreciate that. Thanks for your interest in the bill. It's good to talk with you, and good to talk to the folks out in Colorado. Obviously a lot going on out there too.

Absolutely, Mark, I appreciate your time.

Man. Thank you.

All right, that is very interesting, very very And here's the thing, you guys, I'm not anti union.

I'm really not.

I am anto coercion, no matter who's doing it. And I don't like being told that, yeah, you have to give money to an organization that that's then going to turn around and give money to people that you are diametrically opposed to. Not to mention, I've always prided myself and this.

I got this from my dad. My dad always like drilled this into us when we were young, I mean, at least me. He said, no matter what you're doing in life, whether you.

Are a dishwasher or a doctor, or a police officer or an attorney, whatever you're doing in life, you should always try to do the absolute best job at that. You should try to be the very best of that, whatever that is. So no matter what job I ever had, I've always wanted to be the best at it. And that sounds silly when you consider that my resume has long since being a waitress to pay for my you know, my hobby of radio when I first got into radio, and.

To pay my way through school. But even when I was a.

Waitress, I wanted to be the best waitress. You give me a contest in a restaurant, like I used to work in a fine dining restaurant in Orlando and.

They would have wine contests.

I wasn't even twenty one yet, but the wine reps would come in and they would make a big you know show, and they would do a wine tasting and they tell us all about these wines, and then there would be something dumb like, yeah, dinner for two, whatever you want is the prize. I would kill that thing. So I don't understand the mentality of wanting to be paid the same as everybody else who isn't as good as you, who doesn't work as hard at it as you do.

I don't.

That's a thing I don't. I don't get.

If somebody makes more money than me. I find that aspirational. I try not to be jealous, because jealousy is such a wasted emotion. But I just don't understand the mentality of wanting to belong to an organization that tells you how much you're going to earn simply based on something like how long you've been a warm body in the room.

I don't do that, Just don't. Mandy.

My brother in law was in Pipeliners Union and during the time of Obama, they told them they needed to vote for Obama.

Of course, of course they did. Mandy. Not sure this is public yet.

Independence Institute may run right to work legislation in Colorado. As Caldera. You know, John is very very selective about what he puts his money in his time behind because running the Independence Institute is a lot of work and it's very expensive to put a ballot measure on the ballot and then support it. So if he is, I'm wondering what that looks like, I'll reach out to John Calderon find out. Thanks for the tip, Mandy, you were

No?

Because I worked for Delta Airlines, which was a non union shop.

Mandy.

Years ago, I worked as a telephone operator. One of my coworkers swore or at a customer. It was overheard by management. He was promptly fired, but the union went abat for him and got his job back. As a co worker, I can say that wasn't the first time he did that, And that's the point. They're protecting the worst of the worst. The problem with unions and corporations in this situation is both go to the legislator for

Because corporations are.

We well, they're spending a lot of money at the top, and people at the bottom they see that and they want a bigger piece of the pie.

But all that being said, the.

Fact that a union can force anyone to take money that they don't want to give.

I mean, in any other situation, isn't that theft. Aren't you being held up?

Maybe not at the point of a gun, but the threat of not having a job. That feels like extortion to me, Hey, you know what, you want a job here? Well, we can make that happen, but you're gonna have to give us a little cut every single month. Hey, you know what, though, will protect you, if you know what I mean. If you just give us some of your money every single month.

We don't even have to stop by. We'll just take it out of your paycheck. We'll just you won't even miss it, and you'll be safe. We'll take care of you.

I mean, come on, guys, I've seen that movie and it usually ends with a guy getting a bullet in the head. I'm just saying, Mandy, I'm what's called a fee payer in the union.

I have to be in.

I live in Missouri.

I had to send letters to both the local chapter and the international union chapter.

I only pay what is called chargeable fees, and those.

Are the alleged fees incurred by the union and negotiating the contract that they won't give up the exclusive.

Right to negotiate. I should be able to say to a union, I don't want to be in your union and I don't want to live under your contract. I should be able to say that.

I should be able to opt out, and they should say, fine, go ahead, give it your best shot, go get something better, not one dime of my money goes to the Democratic Party, says this Texter. Mandy, what's your opinion on tips since you were a server, I believe that tips are earned, not deserved.

I agree with you. I agree with you on that.

If I'm being passive aggressive. First of all, if I have really horrible service, I am telling the manager, and not to be a Karen right like, I don't even want anything free when I'm telling the manager. But I look at it like this, if it were my business and the service was garbage, I'd want to know. So I always tell the manager if I have really awful service. But I have been known to leave like a one percent tip in exact change, just to passively aggressively let them know.

Oh I know how to tip. I just chose not to because you were horrible, absolutely horrible, Mandy.

I've been both union and non union. I'll take non union any day. And I don't know what field this texture was in, Mandy. Unions reward the lazy. They do protect the worst. That's really what their job is because the best generally don't need protection. Historically, you can make much more money with a union than without strikes to be very effective but you can't strike alone. That's just

I don't know.

I don't know.

I want this to be my last job job, you know, my last gotta do it everyday kind of situation. Hopefully I'll you know, outlast, outwit and outplay. We'll see when we get back. We got news that Senator Mitch McConnell is not seeking reelection, and I called my friend Leland Conway while I texted him because he a fellow former Kentucky resident and I both have stories about what we called the dark Lord in our office.

I'm not even kidding.

I'll explain that after this, Leland Conway and I both worked in Kentucky. He worked in Lexington first, and then he worked in Louisville. He actually took my show when I left Louisville, whas to come to khow out here and Leland considers himself a Kentuckian. I do not consider myself a Kentuckian because I was only there for three years.

And though I enjoyed my time in Kentucky. I it's a fascinating, fascinating place, and I.

Got to know, and I say got to know, like we weren't braiding each other's hair hanging out. I got to interview Senator Mitch McConnell multiple times while I was there and had some interesting experiences with him. And today the senator has announced he is not running for reelection. Now, I have told people for years.

That he would never leave the US Senate voluntarily, that he would that he would head out toes first and that and that that was the only way he was going to leave. Because Mitch McConnell was in, he had so much power for so long that there was no need for him to leave. I mean, he you know, I believe this to me indicates that his health is far worse than we've been led to believe. That his health may be the issue here because he's had several kind of catastrophic falls as of late.

I mean, he's older than dirt and joining me now to reflect on Mitch McConnell and everything he's meant to Kentucky is well, Leland Conway. Now, Leland, you call yourself a Kentuckian, right.

I do?

In fact, why how long were you there? Why did you decide to plant your flag there in the Commonwealth?

I was born there.

I didn't know that flexing.

Yeah.

Yeah, my whole family is from there. In fact, on both sides, my grandparents on both sides were tobacco farmers. So I'm about as as true, honest native Kentucky and as you can possibly get.

For some reason, I know you grew up in Arizona, so I, for some reason assume that, Well that makes a lot of sense. Now, so your family, for what going on almost four decades now, has been subject to the leadership of Senator Mitch McConnell, who will be no more.

And I thought, you know, would be interesting. Leland.

Do you have any good stories about your interactions with Mitch McConnell's, specifically, because I got one.

Yeah, actually I have one kind of more human story, the good side of him, I guess if you will. Now, by the way, I call him the Republican assault turtle.

So we always referred to him as the dark Lord, the dark Lord.

Yes, yes, you know what's funny about it. I'll just say this to what's really interesting about Mitch McConnell is. And you and I were talking about this. I think we're exchanging texts on this a few weeks ago. But it's as far as political tacticians go, oh better. Until a few months ago, he was as good as they ever get. And he deserves I will say this too, from conservatives. He deserves the debt of gratitude for the current makeup of the Supreme Court. He architected that right.

So don't you think he was?

And I saw this very interesting column a couple of days ago. I think I was on the Free Press that was this battle that's brewing, or that's happening right now in d C. Is between the destructionist and the status quoist and He was definitely a status quoist guy. I mean, he he made that bureaucracy to a certain extent in DC over his time there. So he was very much a protect what it is instead of recognizing

Yeah, that's a really great way to put it. I think, you know, the friendliest, I guess review of him is that he was he is a man who hasn't realized that time has left him in terms of the way that Americans in general in mass are demanding that Washington begin to work. So he's essentially protecting an outdated system and probably doesn't even realize how how dated it is.

Well, when I was working at WAHAS, whas is such a part of the fabric of Kentucky. It is a radio station that is just it's so legendary, and he had a very friendly relationship with the station and he spoke to the news.

Media all the time.

And when I got there, he had been a regular guest on the host who preceded me show. So here comes the you know at the time, the leader of the Senate. Wait was he a leader or was he minority? I can't remember, but obviously in a leadership position. He comes into my studio and he was so over the top nice to me, and I was completely taken aback by this.

I was like, what are we doing here? This is not the man I'd heard about.

But then right before he left, after that first interview, he's.

That we're done on the air. This is all off the air. He's walking out and he's, well, no, Dad, I'd really like you're too, you know, give a good look to Treg Grayson. He's running for the US Senate, and I think you're really gonna like him, and you know, really maybe talk to.

Trey and basically like did the hard sell on me for his candidate. But then I went and saw Ram Paul at luncheon and I was like, that's it.

I'm all in.

And there was nothing wrong with Trey Grayson. Nice guy, nice guy. He just inspired nothing in me? Where's Ram Paul inspired a lot in me? And as soon as I declared my support for Ran Paul on the air, Mitch McConnell's office froze us out for like two years. I mean, would I say froze us out? I mean, icicles are coming in when we make the phone call. He could be very, very vindictive and very spiteful, but I didn't care. I mean, it doesn't make any difference

Have you heard anything.

I think his health is worse than we've been told because he's had a lot of health kind of catastrophes over the last year.

Yeah, I haven't heard any insider information about his health, but you could tell over the last few months that has definitely deteriorated. There were more of those instances of freezing up, if you will. And I will credit him for bowing out gracefully of saying I'm not going to run for reelection rather than I love the way you put it the other day. But you know a lot of these guys will go out toes up, right. I think that was your your comment, and I think that's

And I would ask him a question Leland and he wouldn't answer it, and I'd say, okay, I'll ask you one more time, center and he would give me the talking points and I would then say, okay, moving on since you're not going to answer the question.

Dude was like it was like a laser with him. It's crazy, yes, yes, So.

Cameron and I we were like, Okay, look, we're probably not going to get him off talking points, but here's our goal. We go into this, I go, here's our goal. We're going to make him belly laugh.

Oh, how some way we're.

Going to make him laugh, right, And it was so funny because we actually did finally get the belly laugh out of him. But it wasn't about a joke. He was somehow and I can't even remember how we got to this point, but we we literally got him to tell a story of the favorite Christmas present that he got when he was a kid, and it was about a little red wagon. And at some point when he's telling this story, he's are to laugh, like I've never heard him laugh before. And we walked out of there

That, you know, Yeah, you know, I mean, bless him, bless him.

I agree with you, he's sort of lost his way over the last few years. But I do think it's just because he spent his career creating this thing in Washington, d C. And when someone comes in and says this sucks and we're going to do something different, it's a natural reaction to protect it. But you know, do you think he makes it to twenty twenty seven not to be morbid? And don't get me wrong, I don't want anything to happen to him, but physically he just he doesn't look good.

I don't see that happening.

You know.

It's like you can kind of tell when people's time is coming. Yep, And I wouldn't be surprised. I did see an announcement today from Cameron in Kentucky. He ran for until they had brain fart there for a second. But good guy, you and I talked texted about him

Oh really, I.

Don't know, but it feels to me that was super quick, like Hey, I'm not yet run again.

Hey are you wait?

Are you saying that it could have been coordinated Leland Conway?

I don't know, I don't know.

Yeah, Leland Conway can be heard every single evening on KOJ kog O in San Diego. You can find that on the free iHeartRadio app in Crystal Clear digital Audio.

All right, my friend, I'll talk to you later.

Always fun, Thank you, Mandy, appreciate you.

Thank you, Leland, and we'll be right back.

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Now I have to ask this question and we're going to get into it a little bit more on the other side of the break.

So Mayor Mike Johnston, after he.

I was gonna say, flapped his gums, but that's disrespectful. So after he made comments about meeting the Feds at the border with fifty thousand Highland moms or something, he was then invited by Congress to testify on March sixth. He's going to be testifying before the US House Committee on Government and Reform about Denver's sanctuary state policies.

And first he was all like, well, I don't know.

If I'm going to go, and I have to last my hair that but of course he's going. Came out later and said, yeah, I'm going. But we just found out that the City of Denver committed up to two million dollars in legal fees to pay a very prominent law firm here in Denver to quote represent the city in the upcoming congressional inquiry into so called sanctuary jurisdictions nationwide.

What are they going to be doing? And I mean this genuinely, What.

Exactly is this law firm going to be doing that the legal department of the City of Denver can't do? Are they looking for case law that would gird their position that by not participating with federal law enforcement, they're somehow not breaking the law. I'm genuinely curious. Now, by the way, the contract is not for two million dollars.

I'm so sorry about your luck.

So if anybody knows what exactly these attorneys are going to be doing, please let me know.

I don't know.

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Dollars per hour for all partners.

Counsel and associates and five hundred and ninety five dollars per hour for all professional staff. How incredibly generous. Maybe when he testifies, we'll get to see what we're paying them for. But isn't that interesting. I mean, he's just going to testify, right.

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And so far no.

Injuries, no deaths.

No one was on the buses, they were empty, I guess, and I have not seen any claims that Hamas has claimed responsibility, but bus explosions were their specialty normally was suicide bombers.

So I guess they've graduated maybe, So that's happening, and it's happening the day.

After the victims that college students.

Want you to think Hamas.

Are they're the victor. Remember they're the victims. They announced that they were going to return the bodies of four hostages. The hostages are dead. They are not alive, and Hamas knew this. Two of them were little children, little babies. One of them was their mom. One of them was an Israeli man who was known for his advocacy for peaceful living with the Palestinian people.

How ironic is that? Do you think? And this is kind of a more of an awful thing to say, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

Because i'm talk show hosts. Do you think in his time in captivity his heart changed or do you think he remained true to that belief until the end. And it could go either way. There are people who believe that, you know, the Ummas are the outliers and the Palestinian people are wonderful and kind and generous.

Except a whole bunch of them came out.

Today to see four coffins, two of them, little tiny coffins, trot it out on the stage where they blamed Israel for the deaths of those four people that Hamas took hostage in an unprovoked attack on October seventh. Then they trotted them through the streets while Palestinians cheered and music played, before they.

Gave them back to the Red Cross. By the way, they were locked coffins as well, so they couldn't even just open the coffins.

They were locked coffins as well. It's just it's disgusting. And again, we don't know who blew up these buses. Maybe it was Hesbla, I don't know, but I bet it was somebody. We have a Israel has a ceasefire with because cease fires only exist as long as they are needed to re arm, to feed, to re up, to do whatever it is Hamas wants to do or Hesbla wants to do, and then ceasefires no longer matter.

So there you go, Mandy from our Common.

Spirit health text line at five sixty sixth nine. Oh that's how you text us, Mandy. Would Phil Wiser sus Trump? Do the Colorado taxpayers have to pay for the court class? Yes, Colorado taxpayers are responsible for paying for whatever fees or taxes that Phil Wiser in the Attorney General's office of Colorado, and.

You know, deems necessary.

And if you don't like the attorney general suing the president, then vote differently. Unfortunately, I'm preaching to the choir here. I would imagine that most of you did not vote for Phil Wiser, But this is why elections matter, and they matter a lot. So that happened in Israel, and it's I wish the president would turn his attention as

I need you, guys to do me a favor.

It's a weird favor because I need you to go read an editorial in a newspaper for a town that you probably have never even heard of. I had never heard of Clarksdale, Mississippi. I'm sure clark Steel, Mississippi, is just a peach of a town. But their local leadership, their mayor, their city council, they all suck. A judge ordered a local newspaper in clarkste Mississippi, to.

Remove an editorial from their website. What is the editorial about, Well, this is where it gets super ironic. So the town and the city were accused of being opaque about a meeting where a tax increase was discussed before it was set to the Mississippi legislature. And that's what the editorial an opinion piece is critical of so in response, the town sued the newspaper so they would have to take down their editorial about how the town isn't very transparent.

Anytime government tries to hide anything, it makes me distrust them. It makes me want to do the exact opposite, like encourage you guys to go read this archive copy of a stupid editorial that you don't care for.

Seriously, Well, Jesus forgave the Romans while he was on the crucifix. I hope this man was true to his beliefs. I say that to you.

You know, I will never forget. And I'm sure you guys remember this as well. When an idiotic young man, white supremacist walked into a church, an African American church in South Carolina and killed multiple people, I will never forget the very next day, I feel like it was the next day. It might have been a couple of days. It was very close to when these murders actually occurred, and the church members came out and said we forgive him.

Because that's what Jesus tells us to do.

And I was absolutely gobsmacked by that, and it really has made me work harder on being forgiving in my own life, because walking around with a bunch of pent up anger and hatred towards someone else, even if it's deserved, because I will, I will, I will tell you genuinely, they're in my lifetime. There's probably been three people that I felt genuine hatred for in my own personal sphere, right. I mean, I can hate ams in the abstract because I don't know any of those people.

But if I knew any of them and they were murdering little children, I might hate them, even though that's not what we're supposed to do.

All three of those people deserved my ire, They deserved my hatred, but I have worked very hard on letting that go because what does that serve there. I love the old adage they're not gonna die from the poison you swallow, and it's gone a long way. But this guy, I mean man last trained to Clark smell the monkeys protesting the draft and actually it's Clark's Dale though, Clark's Dale, so really, yeah, you really haven't you really haven't heard of this place, Clark's Dale, Mississippi.

When we get back, John Fetterman is losing staff. This is an interesting story to me. And here's the thing.

I can understand staffers leaving, but I think it's kind of sad that they went to work for the man, and yet because he's choosing to blaze his own trail, they're now leaving.

I'll explain after this.

Although I don't blame the staffers here, but I for one, like the direction that Senator John Fetterman has gone in since he was elected into office. Remember he was a Bernie supporter back in twenty sixteen, so he has like progressive.

Bona fides, he really does.

But since he's been in office, he's proven to be extremely pragmatic.

And willing to listen.

He's the only Democratic senator who has met with Donald Trump. He flew tomorrow Lago and met with them. Donald Trump said he he's a common sense kind of guy. But that being said, according to NBC News, and I realized that staff turns over in political offices, not.

Quite like this, but staff turns over.

Two of Senator John Fetterman's longest serving staff members have announcer leaving his team, and they've been with him since the very beginning. They both worked on his campaign in twenty twenty two. Those departures come a month after Carrie Adams left as Fetterman's communications director. She was quoted in the Free Press saying that she disagreed with the Senator on Israel and the war in Gaza. He, by the way, has been the most pro Israel member of the Democratic

Sense that.

You know he's running around sort of cowtowing to the Jewish lobby. He just really believes that Israel should have the right to defend itself against these attacks. That's not all that left him, though. He just lost three of his top communication staffers last March. His chief of staff

Explain what that politician is doing.

Right.

And it's the same like if you have friends that I hate Trump and they come to you like, oh, you're a trap voter, why did you explain? Ain't hit what he's saying that, It's like, that's not my job to explain the person. But when you work for a politician, you have to explain a lot of what they're doing. And if you don't believe in it, I think that

I should be clear.

The number of people who shift from government work into policy work is staggering. It's just just they go back and forth, and it's a very incestuous situation. You cannot ever let your network you know, disintegrate when you are a DC employee, because you never know what's gonna happen next. I just I thought this was kind of an interesting story though, because I think that would be kind of challenging. This is why I used to think I wanted to

Go out and tell everybody it's called the Gulf.

Of America, and I would just be like, oh, really, really, I'm not good at defending the indefensible if I.

Don't believe in it. And I think that's probably what these these people, uh.

Kind of were feeling, like, I mean maybe anyway, So on the video today speaking about Gulf of America.

This girl's really funny and she does these little.

Videos where she plays both the part of Democrat and Republican and she's pause already, lady, Oh my gosh, it won't let me pause.

Okay, we're gonna pause.

She starts out as a Democrat and then I'll tell you when she moves to Republican and vice versa. This is what she had to say about that.

Do you want to change genders?

There's no longer to genders. There's this rum, there's thousands of different genders.

Republicans, okay, Democrats changing the Angelima Suru.

It's it's gotta go. We got to rename.

We got a rebrand, but we Republicans.

But we like our name after our great grandmother. It's in her honor.

No, it's racist.

It's gotta go. We gotta change it.

I think the word mother is getting just a little offensive. Can we can we change it to birthing person. That's more inclusive. But I'm a birthing person.

I am a mother, and that's actually taking away from me as a woman.

Derocrat, Republicans, you.

Know, we've decided, after a lot of thought, that is going to be the Gulf of America no longer the Gulf of Mexico.

How dare you.

Change our ocean's name to Gulf of America. How American of you to do that?

And she's absolutely right. Name changes are great when one side does them. Name changes are bad when the other side does it.

Funny isn't it. When we get back.

There are two things happening right now that you need to know at the Gold Dome. One of them, I am about to give Governor Jared Polis a lot of credit if this thing passes.

I'll explain after this.

We all know that there was there were laws passed several years ago about construction defects, and the unintended result is that the condo construction market has collapsed. When these laws were put into place that make it much much easier for builders to be sued over condo defects. They pretty much taken a market that used to make up about twenty percent of new home starts and it's dropped

Of building a condominium.

And now we are fast forward to today, we have a massive shortage of affordable housing. A report last September from the free market thing tank Common Sense Institute said insurance costs for condominiums surge to five point five percent of a project's hard cost, more than two hundred and thirty three percent, higher than multifamily rental home projects, which had insurance cost as low as one point one to

The problem before litigation.

And that's the key, right You've got to create an environment where the builder has given the opportunity to either fix the issue or explain why that issue should not be fixed by the builder.

I mean, and current.

Lies far too aggressive when it comes to the plaintiffs. And don't get me wrong, I believe plaintiffs should have the ability when someone builds a shoddy product to get, you.

Know, some kind of restitution.

This isn't about people not being able to sue, but it's about striking a balance between allowing builders to be able to afford insurance and be able to remedy any issues that have popped up, and making sure that people still have the right to sue when someone does something wrong. So House Build twelve seventy two pop that up for this year. It was introduced Tuesday. It would require a third party independent inspector to make periodic checks during.

The condo construction process.

The builder would be tasked with responding to problems identified by the inspector.

And fixing them. The theory behind this is that by having constant i'm guessing spot inspections kind of unannounced inspections, you were going to eliminate some of the problems that would have ended up with a lawsuit later on. Just ensuring that condos are being built better.

It would allow another cottage industry of independent inspectors to be paid by the builder.

To commit to a certain number of.

Inspections during the building process, and then once the building is certified by the city or state, wherever.

That certification comes from.

It would make it much harder for people to sue because it had been through so many inspection processes up to that point. And the reason I have to say if this gets done, because I do think this will move the needle. I do think this could make a

Start building wealth. This would be a really big deal.

It would also probably put downward pressure on our rental properties because rents are high because people kind of get trapped in in apartment you know rentals, because there's no place for them to move to, you know, the entry level housing. The two hundred thousand dollars housing. It just is not out there like it needs to be. So I think this is a great idea. If they can get this done, it would be something. But just to tell you what they're up against, the Democrats in the

In a different direction.

A it's called Build Our Homes Right, which is aligned with trial lawyer HB twelve sixty one. The measure, backed by trial lawyers will prevent builders from inserting language and purchase agreements, contracts, and HOA declarations that would limit homeowners' rights to reject adequate repair offers, organize neighbors experiencing similar problems, and hire experts to inspect problems. I don't know how that fixes or changes anything. And you guys, I have

Got to do something. So, you know, I hope it gets done. I hope Jared Polus can make this happen, because it has to happen. We have to have some kind of give here.

Mandy, how much do you think those inspectors are going to cost? My is that it's going to be less than five point five percent of all the hard costs, which is basically what insurance costs now right. I have no frame of reference to even speculate about how much an inspection costs. I don't buy our cell houses that often, and I certainly don't build houses that often, so I don't know how much those things would cost normally. Andy, sounds like another permit system. Could a project be delayed

But this seems like it would be more of a during construction.

You would contract as a builder with these independent inspectors to do X amount of inspections over X amount of time, so they would.

Be drop in.

First of all, I think they have to be drop in, right, they have to be surprise inspections.

I've always you know, one of the things about.

The Iran deal that I always thought was so ridiculous is the amount of notification that we had to give Ron before we went to one of their sites where we were pretty sure they were building nuclear weapons.

It's like, yeah, we're.

Gonna need three months before an inspection. Why would you need three months before an inspection? So I would imagine that it would be a contract for a period of time x amount of inspections in that time, so you're not necessarily waiting for an inspector to come look at your electrical or your lighting or your you know, your handicapped stalls or whatever it is. It would be happening during the process, or maybe if there was something you wanted to.

Have them come look at, you could schedule it that way.

Say hey, look, we just we just finished all of our handicap stalls in our bathroom. We want to make sure they're good. We put in our exit sides. We want to make sure they're in the right place, you know. I mean, I don't have all the details, but I think it would It has the potential to give a lot more confidence to consumers. I think when somebody says, look, not only did we have the normal inspections like electrical and things of that nature, we had these pop inspections

Now, now you're.

Saying we need another party to add on to the party that is supposed to make it right. Doesn't make sense, No, no it doesn't. But we're trying to appease a bunch of different people. And final inspections, you know, certificates of ocupancy, those kind of inspections are very specific, and this would be more generalized throughout the process.

I guess, I don't know. I don't know.

Mandy, is building going to be down because of the cost, and also all the home builders are going.

To be deported. Well, we'll have to see about that, won't we. We will have to see about that.

Inspectors don't mean anything was built correctly, especially concrete.

We learned that at the airport, guys, there's no perfect solution.

There's absolutely no perfect solution that it's going to be satisfactory to everyone. So this is as polished a turd as we can get on this I think. I mean, what are the other ideas that you guys have that would still protect the rights of consumers who are actually wronged to be able to sue and yet not be so ridiculous that insurance companies are like, yeah, we're not going to insure that. So you know better answer, I'm open,

Will they succeed this time?

Senate Bill one sixty one aims to boost ridership, accountability, and transparency. Two previous reform attempts have failed.

In recent years. This is a bill that will just move the chairs around the deck of the Titanic. Because I'm going to ask this question genuinely, have all of you, I know that most of you are hard working, and you know you've got a lot of places to go. You're busy, but.

Maybe you're retired, maybe you maybe you don't have a lot of places to go and you just still need to get around.

What is it gonna take to get you on RTD? Like, let me give you my used sales Carmen, used car salesman. What is spiel here?

Like?

What do I need to do to get you into this train? What do I need to do to get you on this bus?

Because we can reform RTD's leadership, I mean, left and right, we can do it every year. But are you not riding RTD because of a leadership?

Right now?

Are you not riding RTD because it's not run well?

I mean, what do you?

What's the deal?

This is the same way I feel about the mayor's grandiose plans for downtown Denver. Until you make sure that in the middle of winter, I'm not gonna get on the train and have someone there smoking meth. Until you ensure that I'm gonna be able to ride a bus without getting stabbed in the neck by a random crazy guy. Until you make it so I can get on the

We can't stop now. It's irrational.

It's a death noel for private business, right, the sunk cost fallacy is an absolute death noel.

But for government it's just like, oh, well, just we got.

More taxpayer money. Oh we got this. You know we don't. We won't run out of money because they're not spending their own.

Mandy, I'm not riding RTD because I don't want to be stabbed and or inhale meth smoke.

And that was exactly the point I just made.

That is it.

I will never ride RTD no matter what they do.

One of the things that people underestimate because all of the Democrats who love light reel and mass transit, they look at Europe and they go look at Europe. Everybody in Europe, they just they ride the trains and the buses. And I got to tell you, in Switzerland it was fabulous. We rode the trolley, we rode the train, we rode the buses, We rode it all. It was great, as

Correct.

I am not riding RTD because I was on a jury for attempted murder on a bus where no cops showed up for fourteen minutes and the bus driver ran away and a good citizen had to subdue a knife wielding goofball and shuffling the chairs on.

The deck of the Titanic. By reforming the management of RTD will not solve that problem.

Ryan Edwards probably rides RTD all the time. When was the last time you were on a bus or a train here in Denver?

Let's see here, it's been a minute.

My wife rides it more often because she teaches down a metro right, So she'll ride RTD often, but it's been a minute for me.

Yeah, it's just wildly inconvenient.

Yeah, well and that's what you know. We talked about it.

And so it's funny because she was like, oh, I'll get so much work done and you know, what is this and then she like it took they had like some construction on it one day.

Oh and it went like two miles an hour, yeah, to.

Get to where.

So she was like, I have to know what's going because she was almost late for class. Yeah, and she got really great, you know, so stressed out.

Why you can't control it?

So now she's been driving every day, which is kind of like what she didn't want to do, but she can't trust it, so.

Right, and that's a huge part of the problem. And again shuffling the management is not going to change that problem. They have structural really just foundational issues that have to be addressed, but they have no money because no one rides it. So it's just this giant money suck that drives empty trains up in down nine to twenty five.

Anyway, and now it's time for the most exciting sec Wait a minute, and now it's time for the most exciting segment all the radio of its guy world of that day.

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That if you believe in yourself.

Ben.

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What is our dad joke of the day?

Please?

Did you hear about the queen who was only twelve inches tall?

No, she was a great ruler.

Oh that's a good one.

That's really good.

I gotta remember these.

I'm going to see the grandkids in a couple of weeks. I gotta have all these jokes worked out. What's our word of the day?

Please? Is that advert himself right now?

Yes?

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What's lots going on? Just go to at all Bright NFL at our Red Words radio.

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Gonna stick with certainly, certainly gonna stick with that.

Today's trivia question, where in the world can you find Boma National Park, home to a massive annual antelope migrag I'm gonna go Tanzania, Oklahoma.

We are all wrong South Sudan.

Many of the migrators are topi, medium sized antelopes that are dark brown with tan socks. They have those in zoos yep. They always look bored to me in the zoo. Anyway, The name antelope, I know exactly what is our Jeopardy category sounds kind of iffy.

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The top county cop manny, what's the sheriff correct? A minor argument, I'm manby, what's the tiff correct? A small light boat?

For one da, what's the skiff correct? I know you know this, you guys.

As I say my name, he's like the first t and gat their taxes. One nation puts Brian goods by what's a terriff caress? And finally a brief passing Odor Ryan right, what's a whiff?

Correct? But three to two? I didn't know that one.

That one's a smells like victory? That was a tough one.

Yeah, it's coming up on Ryan I never have.

We're been in here and he's gonna espouse all sorts of nonsense sense.

But we got a big hockey game tonight.

I know this is we haven't really talked about this because the politics of what's happening right now between Trump and Trudeau have boiled over on the on the ice, and first of all, what is this four nation's crap?

I don't like this so so that basically I don't know what it is.

I just don't like it.

Yeah, I think it's been more entertaining my shots. I think it's been more entertaining than a typical All Star, basically replacing that. Okay, I guess it's like real game like hot now absolutely means nothing.

It's exhibition.

Like sure, all these players on both USA and Canada are going to go back to the respective teams after this and they'll continue to Stanley Cup chase.

Right, But in the.

Meantime versus playing you know, a three on three, a tourney or you know something small where nobody really watches their cares. They get ten million viewers for USA Canada. Last time, they had three fights in nine seconds, like and again, you're right. The politics certainly have played a factor at all. There's no denying that fact. And that's gonna be one of the must watch parts of tonight.

So let me ask you this.

I know the US won the first game, so if they win again, I mean this is like, this is like for pink slips, right, we own Canada if they win tonight, that's what I heard.

I think does that make them fuse right there?

I'm just like, you know, for all the marbles right now, like miracle all over again?

Miracle I do I still love that, you imagine, like, hey, guys, we've raised the stakes like before puck drops.

Yeah, just so you know, this is what's on the line tonight.

Good luck exactly exactly. We all show up tomorrow like ay after every phrase anyway, me too, I'll be and poutine anyway.

I'm just practicing, getting ready in case it doesn't go well tonight, I'll turn it over to these two clowns. I'll be back tomorrow for a big hour show. Spring training baseball begins to eat my show tomorrow.

Yay, we're all ready. We're ready to be Canucks right now, keep it right here on ka