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The Glenn Show

Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury, Professor of Economics at Brown University and Paulson Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute

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Episodes

Stephanie Lepp – The Responsibilities of the Public Intellectual

On this week’s episode of The Glenn Show, I welcome my old friend Stephanie Lepp, the Executive Producer at the Center for Humane Technology. I first met Stephanie through her husband, Nathaniel, who was a student of mine at Brown. Stephanie produced a podcast called Reckonings, which told the stories of how people transform their worldviews. I went on the show in 2015 and told the story of the evolution of my own political worldview (links below). Since then, we've been wanting to do another ro...

Apr 18, 20221 hr 13 min

John McWhorter – Trayvon Martin, 10 Years Later

This week, John and I are talking about the ten-year anniversary of the Trayvon Martin shooting , one of the most politically consequential events of the 2010s. A decade later, are we in a better place than where we started? John and I begin by discussing the New York Times’s recent package commemorating the event , which features a written piece by Charles Blow and video interviews with Barack Obama, Henry Louis Gates, and Al Sharpton. All of them reinforce the mainstream narrative about Martin...

Apr 15, 202254 min

TGS Live at the Comedy Cellar

Over the last couple years, I’ve been in communication with Noam Dworman, the owner of the Comedy Cellar in New York, which is one of the most influential comedy clubs in the country. He suggested that we collaborate and put together a show that would explore the relationship between truth, free speech, and comedy . After a lot of back and forth, we came up with the idea of putting non-comedian intellectuals into conversation with professional stand-up comics. We weren’t quite sure what would ha...

Apr 04, 20221 hr 29 min

Sam Harris – Matters of Race, Matters of Mind

This week I welcome Sam Harris to TGS. Sam is a neuroscientist and philosopher, the host of the podcast Making Sense , and the proprietor of the meditation app Waking Up . He’s a searching, truly open-minded thinker who follows the evidence where it leads, even if that means admitting that he was wrong about a previously held position. We begin by discussing Sam’s uncertainty about how to navigate some aspects of the discourse on race . He wants a world in which race simply doesn’t matter all th...

Mar 28, 20221 hr 3 min

Matt Taibbi and John McWhorter – What Is Putin Thinking?

This week on The Glenn Show, John McWhorter and I are joined by the journalist Matt Taibbi. Many of you are likely familiar with Matt from his many books , his political journalism for Rolling Stone (among other outlets), his Useful Idiots podcast, and now his outstanding Substack newsletter, TK News . Matt lived and worked in Russia and the former USSR for several years, so I thought he’d be an excellent source for some insight into the war in Ukraine. We begin by discussing Matt’s brief career...

Mar 21, 202259 min

Daniel Bessner – Ukraine and American Decline

With the war in Ukraine escalating, I thought it would be a good idea to bring on a guest with some expertise in international relations. So I called on Daniel Bessner, an intellectual historian, associate professor at University of Washington’s Henry M. Jackson School of International Studies, and a co-host of the American Prestige podcast. Daniel is a man of the left, so we spend a lot of time here arguing, and we have a great time doing it. Note: We recorded on February 22, 2022. Between then...

Mar 15, 20221 hr 4 min

John McWhorter – Capital Offenses

It’s John McWhorter time once again here at The Glenn Show. Let’s get into it. John and I are both busy guys, but people might not realize how much juggling it takes to manage life as both an academic and a public intellectual . I talk about why I may soon wind down my role at Brown University and devote myself more fully to public endeavors. We then move on to discuss psychiatrist Jeffrey Lieberman , who has been fired or suspended from several academic and medical appointments after referring ...

Mar 07, 20221 hr

Matt Rosenberg – What Next, Chicago?

This week, I welcome Matt Rosenberg to TGS. Matt is a journalist who grew up in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood and the author of the recently published book What Next, Chicago?: Notes of a Pissed-Off Native Son . The book delves into the causes and effects of the city’s recent, alarming rise in crime and also chronicles those who are trying to address the problem. As a native of Chicago’s South Side, I share Matt’s concerns, and I highly, highly recommend that everyone read his book. We begin ...

Feb 28, 20221 hr 25 min

John McWhorter – The Problem with Racial Preferences

John McWhorter is back, just like you knew he would be. This week we’re talking about the future of affirmative action. We begin by discussing Steven Spielberg and Tony Kushner’s new film adaptation of the classic musical West Side Story . John argues that people who dismiss the musical as just “something some old white people wrote” are far too simplistic and limited in their view . I haven’t yet gotten a chance to see the new adaptation, but I’m a fan of the music and lyrics, so I’m inclined t...

Feb 21, 20221 hr 3 min

Remembrance of Glenns Past

As many of you know, I’m in the midst of writing a memoir. I’m now calling it The Enemy Within, but its earlier title was Changing My Mind , an allusion both to my intellectual development and to my shifting political orientations. In the course of thinking through my past, I’ve wondered how much the new, more conservative Glenn would have to say to the more liberal Glenn of the ‘90s and ‘00s. So I decided to stage a little “debate” between us. Mark Sussman, my editor here at the newsletter, wen...

Feb 16, 202254 min

Steven Rhoads - The Economist's View of the World

On this week’s show, I’m talking to the political scientist Steven Rhoads, author of the influential book The Economist’s View of the World , which was recently reissued in a substantially updated edition. Steven thinks the fundamental principles of economics can help even non-economists see the world in a more rational and solution-oriented way, and I have to say, I agree! I begin by asking Steven how a political scientist came to write a book extolling the virtues of economics —why not write o...

Feb 14, 20221 hr 5 min

John McWhorter – Race, Representation, and the Supreme Court

I’m back with my friend John McWhorter for one of our regular conversations. A lot has happened on the race and politics front over the last two weeks, so we’ve got a full docket of topics to discuss. And speaking of dockets, after overcoming some technical difficulties, we spend a good chunk of time on matters relating to the Supreme Court. Ilya Shapiro , the incoming director of Georgetown University’s Center for the Constitution, was put on leave by the school after tweeting criticism of Joe ...

Feb 08, 20221 hr 9 min

Laurence Kotlikoff – Money Magic

Here at The Glenn Show, I’m taking a little break from politics and culture to talk dollars and cents. My good friend and former Boston University colleague Larry Kotlikoff is here to discuss his new book, Money Magic: An Economist’s Secrets to More Money, Less Risk, and a Better Life . In it, Larry brings his knowledge and expertise as an economist to bear on the everyday problems of spending, saving, and investing. In this episode, he shares some of that advice with TGS viewers. But, wait a mi...

Jan 31, 202257 min

John McWhorter – The Burdens of Black Freedom

John McWhorter and I often find ourselves aligned on the issues we discuss on The Glenn Show. We’ve even received criticism for how much we agree with each other! This episode should please those critics, as John and I actually find ourselves in stark (though productive and friendly) disagreement on a few matters. Let’s get into it. We begin by talking about Joe Biden’s recent press conference . Personally, I think he performed pretty badly, as the White House subsequently had to walk back sever...

Jan 24, 20221 hr 4 min

Heather Mac Donald – Which Black Lives Matter?

This week we’ve got Heather Mac Donald on The Glenn Show . Heather is a fellow of the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor to City Journal , and author of several books, including The Diversity Delusion , The War on Cops , and The Burden of Bad Ideas . Heather’s writing combines meticulous research and sharp, uncompromising prose. Her positions on crime and policing have led some on the left to regard her as a bit of a boogeyman. But while she is a fierce critic of failing progressive poli...

Jan 18, 20221 hr 19 min

John McWhorter – Are There More Capitol Riots to Come?

John McWhorter is back for our first conversation of 2022. Let’s get into it! We begin by discussing the death of the groundbreaking black actor Sidney Poitier . Portier was best known for his roles in films like The Defiant Ones , Lilies of the Field, In the Heat of the Night , and Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner . John puts forward the fascinating theory that Poitier’s Caribbean origins and mannerisms made him acceptable to white American audiences who were unaccustomed to seeing black men in dra...

Jan 11, 20221 hr 4 min

Robert Woodson – How to Restore Impoverished Communities

This week I’m honored to have the distinguished Robert Woodson on the show. Since joining the civil rights movement as an activist and organizer in the ‘60s, Bob has dedicated himself to finding solutions to the problems of poverty and dysfunction in America. Through the Woodson Center, Bob helps fund and advise programs that are on the ground and working to solve some of the toughest problems in American communities. He’s got more awards and achievements than I can possibly list here, and there...

Jan 04, 20221 hr 9 min

John McWhorter – The Best of "The Black Guys" 2021

It’s been a big year here at The Glenn Show. So as 2021 draws to a close, I thought it would be a nice idea to round up some choice selections from the conversations I’ve had with John over the past year. This episode is a kind of “best of” compilation of segments that got a big response from viewers or that I personally thought were important or noteworthy. I couldn’t include all of the highlights, but I think these clips give a good sense of what my conversations with John were all about in 20...

Dec 27, 20211 hr 26 min

Amy Wax – Contesting American Identity

On this week’s show, I talk with Professor Amy Wax of the University of Pennsylvania Law School. As you might have guessed, we get into some very controversial territory. But that’s why I enjoy talking to Amy—she doesn’t pull her punches. Amy begins by talking about her position at Penn Law, where a group of alumni are attempting to get her fired . It’s not the first time people have tried this—as Amy notes, she’s been “canceled” many times , but she’s still here. We move on to a discussion of i...

Dec 21, 20211 hr 37 min

John McWhorter – Unsettling the "Settled Questions"

The “common sense” of the Woke Left sees so many issues, from the historical effects of redlining to the relationship between race and IQ, as matters that no longer require discussion. “Redlining is responsible for present-day racial wealth disparities, period. There is no relationship between race and IQ, period. End of discussion.” But the discussion is not over, these matters and many others are not settled. Treating them as such just papers over matters of vital concern that require serious ...

Dec 13, 20211 hr 8 min

A Response to "Simone"

The audiovisual experiments continue here at The Glenn Show. In some of our recent conversations, John McWhorter and I talked about how we would reply to “Simone,” a fictionalized version of one of my students at Brown who believes that systemic racism causes most or all of the racial disparities in the US. I think Simone is wrong about that, but this idea is so widespread that John and I agreed that we can’t just brush it aside. We need to address and refute it head on. We attempted to do that ...

Dec 08, 20216 min

Rav Arora – Race and Crime after the Summer of 2020

This week on TGS we’ve got Rav Arora. He’s a compelling writer on race matters in the US. He’s also a college undergraduate , though it would be a mistake to underestimate him. He’s already published in a number of widely read outlets, including the New York Post , Quillette , and City Journal . He’s also got a Substack called Noble Truths , where he writes about psychedelics, meditation, and cultural trends. I begin by inquiring into Rav’s intellectual background. What is this young guy from Ca...

Dec 07, 20211 hr 25 min

John McWhorter — Anger, Shame, Sadness, and Race in America

John and I often talk about how we feel about race in America, but we rarely delve into why we feel the way we feel. What factors in our own lives primed us for those emotional responses? While John and I often agree about where the politics of race have gone wrong, we just as often experience very different feelings about these matters. I start the discussion off by raising a question a friend put to me recently: are we wasting our time engaging with “red meat” issues in the race debate? Should...

Nov 30, 202139 min

Laurence Kotlikoff — Fending Off Inflation

In this week’s TGS, my old friend Larry Kotlikoff, an economist at Boston University, is back to talk about some of our most pressing economic concerns. Chief among them is the inflation rate, which has hit a 30-year high. By some accounts, inflation is now threatening to do major, possibly longterm damage to the US economy. But are things as bad as they seem? Larry will take us through his analysis and talk about some other looming economic troubles. If you want to understand how these things w...

Nov 22, 20211 hr 3 min

The Double Life, Once More

A couple weeks ago in this space, I published an autobiographical sketch called “The Double Life.” It elicited such a strong reaction from readers that I wanted to revisit it, so I recorded an audio version and Nikita Petrov, my creative director, created a video feature to go along with it. I plan to do more of these audio/video pieces in the future, mostly for subscribers. Let me know what you think of this new feature in the comments! This post is free and available to the public. To receive ...

Nov 21, 202115 min

John McWhorter — Systemic Racism's Greatest Hits

This week, John and I continue our discussion of systemic racism, which was kicked off when one of my students wrote a searing critique of some of my positions. John and I agreed that “Simone” (not her real name) deserved a real, intellectually serious response. We can’t just blow off Simone and people like her—that is, sober-minded, sincere, intelligent progressives and leftists who happen to think that systemic racism is responsible for all or most of America’s racial disparities. In respondin...

Nov 15, 20211 hr 2 min

Whose Fourth of July?: Black Patriotism and Racial Inequality in America

Recently, I was asked to deliver a speech at the National Conservatism Conference, which was held in Orlando, Florida. It was high-profile affair with many prominent conservative intellectuals, media figures, and politicians speaking and in attendance. And I don’t mind saying I had a prime speaking slot! I used the speech to develop some ideas I’ve aired here on TGS, and I think many of you will be gratified by the reaction they get from the crowd. But make no mistake: I’m not just telling them ...

Nov 08, 202138 min

John McWhorter and Randall Kennedy — Say It Loud!

This week’s TGS features two incomparable guests: John McWhorter and Randall Kennedy. John, of course, needs no introduction. Randy is a professor at Harvard Law School and the author of many books, the latest of which is Say It Loud!: On Race, Law, History, and Culture . In this episode, we get into it pretty much immediately. Randy admits to being “ thrown” by Donald Trump’s election and to finding his campaign openly racist . I, as you may know, think that is an oversimplified explanation of ...

Nov 02, 20211 hr 25 min

Thoughts on the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America

I know this week everyone is expecting one of my conversations with John McWhorter. But due to some unforeseen events, we ended up shifting things around a bit. Next week you can expect to see John and I speak with Harvard Law School professor Randall Kennedy , where we’ll engage issues of systemic racism , among other topics. Two weeks after that, John and I will be back to have our own discussion about systemic racism. We said we wanted to formulate serious responses to those who believe syste...

Oct 25, 20211 hr 18 min

Wai Wah Chin — The NYC Exam School Controversy

In this week’s TGS, we’re talking about an issue that seems local but has big national implications. Wai Wah Chin is the Charter President of the Chinese American Citizens Alliance of Greater New York, and she joins me to discuss an ongoing controversy in New York City’s exam schools . These schools are rigorous public high schools that focus on STEM subjects, and admission is determined by student performance on a single exam. If you can excel on one test, you can get access to a free first-rat...

Oct 18, 202151 min
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