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Hello , hello , hello, and welcome to The Freq Show . I'm Jaclyn Steele Thurmond , joined by my husband .
Sam Thurmond
And today we are going to talk about what .
Today we're going to talk about relationships , and relationships specifically as frequency exchanges and , even further than that , how to attract high vibe people in your life .
All right . Well , you lead , let's launch into it .
Yeah, well , I think you know , the older you get , the more difficult it is to make relationships .
I'll say like , make friends that sort of thing , and especially with us , you know , being entrepreneurs and working for ourselves and not going into an office full of people and kind of not having the usual work interactions that a lot of people have, I think sometimes you kinda get in . We have our own little world, and we don't go outside of it oftentimes .
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But we need those external relationships for a number of different reasons , you know . I think we need them for personal development , we just need them as an outlet and for enjoyment , you know . And so I think that it's important to put an effort into going out and making new relationships and investing in current relationships .
You do , do you ?
Yeah , yeah, yeah , that's definitely been something that I put on the back burner , you know , for the last few years .
Well, and in your defense , we've been building a business and had a child , and now we have another child on the way . . Yeah, yeah, it it's not like we haven't been extremely busy , yeah , yeah .
It hasn't been the priority for me , for sure . But I have gotten to a point where I need a little more social interaction with you know , some guy friends and that sort of thing . So but it's hard .
It's hard when you're 40 years old and going out and asking other dudes if they want to be your friends and friend and that sort of thing , and how do you start that process . So that's what we're talking about .
Yeah , all right . So your relationships mirror your internal state , and I think that is the overarching theme of this episode , and I have found that the frequency that I live at attracts that like frequency , just like a magnet . That like frequency , just like a magnet .
And so I think for me and it's really cool because I've seen this happen in all of the different places that we've lived , because we've lived in so many different places and I've been in so many different stages of my life , or like levels in each area that we live I think about , like my friendships when we lived in Idaho .
¶ Relationships as Frequency Exchanges
I think about my friendships when we lived in Idaho . They were very surf , a whole lot of time to build female friendships , even though I craved that . And in college , of course , it was a lot easier because you're with people all of the time . But then it wasn't really until we moved to Georgia and moved to Athens specifically , that I made a girlfriend .
That was like a very deep , deep , deep , deep friendship for a number of years Beyond that . In high school I had some good friends , but you graduate and you lose touch . And then in college I had some incredible friends that I still love so much , but you also move on and lose touch .
And in moving to Arizona , I think and hopefully this is all tracking and making sense . I'm in my third trimester of pregnancy , so mom brain is like fully , fully kicking in , but I think I am the best version of me .
I've ever been living here , doing what we're doing , surrounded by the people we're surrounded by , and I have the most incredible female friendships and I continue to build friendships with women that are on that same frequency of ambition but also cheerleading each other , which I think is so incredibly important .
And so I'm building these friendships where we're challenging one another and we've got that kind of rapport where we can be very gut , level , honest , but we're also in each other's corner and we're the first ones to pop up and be like you got this .
Yeah .
Or the first ones to like buy that person's product or leave them a review on Google or whatever . So it's this beautiful womanhood where we are intentionally crafting these friendships so that , as we grow older , we can build a history with one another .
Yeah , you know I love that . Yeah , you know . Yeah , and it's cool to see how you guys support each other and I think that that's something that's . I won't say it's uncommon because I don't want to paint with a broad brush , but I think your experience in female relationships for a long time on a whole was not that where .
Was not super supportive . Yeah , yeah , yeah , there was much more like competition involved , which I never really liked very much , yeah , and I never felt like I .
I never felt like you . You were never the one that was kind of instigating that sort of energy in the group , but it seemed like oftentimes that other women may have had that energy towards you .
Well , and I think that's so , so , so common , yeah , especially if anyone is insecure . You know , it's just so easy to compare ourselves to one another and whatnot . But again , going back to the topic of this , which is relationships , are frequency exchanges ?
The higher I vibrate , so to speak , or the higher that you spend the most time with are , they say , that's who you become your closest five friends or closest five people to you , and I think that that's absolutely true . How would you say is a wise way to audit your circle ?
Well , I think that what we already talked about it mirrors your internal state . So I think you do some self-reflection for sure and be honest with yourself and most likely that's going to reflect the relationships in your life .
Whatever your relationship with yourself is going to translate into what sort of relationships you're willing to have and what sort of relationships you're pursuing , I think . But as far as auditing , it's kind of interesting . I think guys tend to be a little more easygoing and I've had a lot of friends , um , in my life .
But you know , 99% of those are kind of surface level ,
¶ Auditing Your Circle of Friends
just friends and that's okay , like I . I think I in general have been much more okay with having like surface level friends and I don't think that there's anything wrong with that .
But I think there gets a certain stage in life when you start recognizing the need for boundaries and the people that you want to have close to you , the people that you can depend on , the people that are going to interact with your family , you kind of want that .
Especially when you have kids . Yeah , things change you want them to be .
You want them to be accountable in the same way that to the same standards that you hold yourself to .
So I think that , in general , as a rule of thumb is you know , self-reflecting , what are your standards , what are your core values , and then evaluating the people that you spend time with , that you are ultimately investing the most precious resource , which is your time with and determining . You know if your values align .
Yeah , I have a much shorter answer .
Do you want to ask me the ?
same question .
Yeah , yeah . How do you audit your circle ?
I ask myself how does this person make me feel ?
That's a good one .
And if I'm challenged in a good way , I'm all for it . Like my friend , luba will call me out on certain things or give me like an honest truth bomb , and I appreciate that because I really love and respect her .
If I am around someone and at the end of hanging out with them I feel drained or I feel weird or I feel like there are some red flags , doesn't mean that I'm like going to ghost someone , but that's not a friendship that I want to pour a lot of time into .
And you know , now we're about to have a second child , we have a business that's growing and morphing and doing all of these cool things , and so our time is more limited . And so my inner .
I'm very happy with having an inner circle of friends that is like not bigger than my hand you know what I mean and so I'm very happy with having an inner circle of friends that is like not bigger than my hand . You know what I mean . And so I just consistently ask myself how is this person making me feel ?
Because I am so sensitive to energy and every person is sensitive to energy if we tune in and if that energy feels dissonant , I pay attention to that and I'm at a point in my life where I'm not trying to fix it , not trying to go overboard . I don't want to do like friends therapy with people , you know . I want it there to be a level of ease there .
And so I just constantly ask myself , like , how do I feel when I'm yeah , I feel like if friendships require constant , require constant clarification , yeah and uh , there's constant turmoil and you're spending a lot of time repairing the relationship or getting on the same page .
yeah , you don't want to have to constantly being constantly explain yourself .
Yeah , and it doesn't mean you don't want to be challenged , certainly but I think it's kind of . It's kind of like if you're dating someone and no judgment , but you know , a month into dating you're starting to go to like counseling for your relationship or whatever it is .
It's may not be the best match .
Might not , yeah , might might not be a good fit . So , with your circle of friends , how did you , did you actively pursue that or how did you kind of attract those friendships ?
Yeah , that's a really good question . Well , I think when we moved here , I got pregnant almost immediately and I didn't want to have a pregnancy and then the first couple of years here be lonely for me , and so in my mind I was just very open to friendship , and what I mean by that is like friendship in all forms .
So my first friend that I met here was Stephanie , and then Christina and Stephanie I met through you through real estate .
Then I met Lexi through real estate and what I just kept saying to myself is I'm not going to judge anyone in the first couple of meetings , I'm just going to get to know people and enjoy getting to know people and see what happens and see what happens . And so generally , you know , I'll ask myself that question , like , how does this person make me feel ?
But I keep a very open mind . I don't go into an interaction going like are you going ? to be my friend or not .
I'm just very naturally curious about people and I liked getting to know people , so I think that was a very good way for me to kind of introduce myself to the Scottsdale market , so to speak , and I also , as I've gotten older , have become so open to different ways of meeting people . Maybe I go to an event and I meet someone .
That's how I met Luba and Christy . We went to an event by Candy Valentino and we all met randomly there . I am open to meeting your friends' wives and becoming friends with them . I'm open to meeting somebody at a yoga class or a P-Volv class and getting to know them and saying , hey , do you want to grab coffee sometime ?
I'm also open when people slide into my DMS women , not men
¶ Attracting the Friendships You Want
. But when women slide into my DMS and they , you know , start to chat it up with me , I feel like I'm very open to that . I'm not like closed off and I'll invite people to do things , and so I I am . I I'm just a very open person and that has served me well .
Then the flip side of that is if , energetically , I don't have anything to give , I also have no problem telling someone , hey , I just don't have it in me right now and I'm so sorry , and let's make another date to get together , but I can't make it today .
Yeah .
So I'm very , I'm very honest with myself .
Yeah , I think the openness is is key to that . I think that's something that I've kind of always made friends , uh , easily and um , just naturally , through , you know , sports or school or whatever it is , um , and have always been blessed in that way .
But you know , at this point in life it's definitely a choice , um , and it's not really my personality to kind of go pursue uh people and pursue friendships and that sort of thing , but it's been something that he likes to hang out with his family and his wife .
Well , you know , especially in recent years , that's a million percent been the focus and it will still continue to be the focus .
But I think that it's since that same period , since we moved out here a lot of the close friendships that I had before , that you know , people have their own families , they have their own things , and if you're not in the same , you know , five , 10 mile radius , they can things just fall to the wayside and that's just the way that it is .
So I'm at a point now where I need to kind of step it up and make more of an effort and , um uh , make connections I and be more open .
You know , I think there's a level of being vulnerable or vulnerability that you uh will need to put out there , and to me all that really means is like you were talking about , like , hey , you want to go grab coffee or you want to go grab a beer or whatever it is . Um , and taking those steps whatever it is . Um and taking those steps .
I see you , guys .
But yeah , yeah .
So it's funny . It's funny being 40 and friendless You're not friendless .
But there's also another layer to this . I think in partnership and for us , you are always so supportive of me going and having girl dates with my friends and I think I come back a more fulfilled person and I am so supportive and excited for you to hang out with guy friends .
Because I think you come back with new ideas and expanded horizons and new experiences , and so I think it's so healthy , in a relationship too , to depend on each other in certain ways , but not depend on each other to fulfill every single need that we have .
Well , I think it's also , um , you know , obviously we're there for each other through everything , but , uh , there are certain things that your female friends can provide .
That I'm just yeah , like you don't know what it's like to be pregnant . You don't know what it's like to sit here and have your baby kicking you and distracting you the whole time .
And .
I'm so grateful for that . It's such a good thing and I know that you'll talk to me about it and you'll hold space for me , but you're never going to be .
Well , what I mean is , like I want to , I'm going to do my best to support you , um , in the ways that I know how , but at the same time , we're just different . So when you can go and spend time with your girlfriends and get your cup filled in that way , not only is it benefiting you , but it's taking a little weight off my shoulders .
And vice versa . Yeah , I totally feel that way . Yeah , and I think , as a caveat and we could probably do a whole podcast episode on this it's so important not to depend on your partner to fulfill every need that you have , and I just like you are so amazing and I love you so much , but I also don't expect you to be everything for me .
I don't want you to be . That's not fair to you . Okay , so let's talk about friendships a little bit more and how to cultivate that inner circle that so many of us crave , and we're just going to talk about three very , very simple things One we already touched on , which is become the energy that you want to attract .
If you want to attract let's say you're like me and you want to attract female entrepreneurs that are ambitious , that are mothers , that are also empathetic and want to have deep , deep levels of friendship , be that , be a female entrepreneur . Be someone who is willing to do the work and go deep and talk about things that are uncomfortable .
Be someone who is willing to risk being honest , even if you feel like it make that person a little bit uncomfortable , because truth can be spoken in love , and I think that that's so important .
I think for Sam , you are a guy who wants to attract other high performing guys who are interested in business and have a zest for life and who love their families and who have a moral compass . And so you ,
¶ Three Steps to Cultivating Inner Circle
being those things which you already are , when you go out and exude that , you're going to attract that right back . If you go out and you're needy and you're like I want to attract female entrepreneur friendships but I need it so bad , I need it so bad and I'm not there and I'm not doing it , you're not going to attract that same level of friendship .
So what Banya told me several years ago was whoever you want to be in five years , just start acting like that person now . That's an extremely effective way to call in the frequency that you want , just like . If you want to be a millionaire or a billionaire , start acting like one . That doesn't mean go spend money frivolously because you can .
It means embody that energy of confidence , embody that curiosity about your business , embody that zest for life , that zest for learning more .
Well , I think the yes . Become that person , but also seek out people that you aspire to be like too . So it's you're , you're . You are taking the steps personally to become that person , but these people have such a great influence on us , I think it's a good thing to go out and seek those people that you want to emulate .
Yeah , and I'm sorry if I didn't say that clearly , but absolutely , and I think the key to that is to audit yourself , to not allow yourself to become so intimidated that you avoid hanging out with them . For sure . You know what I mean , because insecurities can pop up .
But what I find is , when I hang out with people that are more successful than me , of course there are those very human thoughts of man . I would love to have that level of success . But we get to choose our thoughts and I can also choose to say , hey , if she can do it , that means I can do it .
And even better , if we're in the same circle , I can ask her how she did it , I can ask for the play-by-play , I can ask for advice , and so I have found it to be such a fun thing to interact with people that are way more successful than me , because it's like a step up . Yeah , you know .
Yeah .
Okay . Next thing is so that's , become the energy you want to attract . This is we're talking about cultivating your inner circle , and there are three steps that we came up with . So become the energy you want to attract . Number two is set clear standards without drama , and I love this one because boundaries are just so important .
So decide what you will put up with and what you won't put up with . My mom used to tell me all the time growing up , you teach people how to treat you , and so if something feels off , stand up for yourself . If something is awesome , continue down that path , but be very clear what you will and will not put up with .
Do you have anything to add to that part ?
But be very clear , what you values and those sorts of things . I feel like that kind of directly translates . So it's just making sure that you have . It's making sure that you value yourself enough to have the people around you reflect your values .
Yeah , and if something comes up and there is drama , you get to choose how you react too . You can say , hey , I wish you the absolute best , but I'm not willing to participate in this , and let it be that simple , and you don't need to apologize for it either . Okay , step three nurture the relationships that feel expansive .
And I think , going back to you asking me , you know how did you make friends when we moved here ? Like pretty quickly , and I think I just immediately started . It's like salve on my heart . I love them so much . But it's because over the last three years , four years , I have spent time with these people .
I've been intentional , I've sent text messages , they've sent text messages . We send each other voice notes that are several minutes long , updating each other on what's going on , even if we can't talk on the phone or hang out .
And so that sense of intention has really to use that are , you know , that are interested in the same things that we're interested in , whether it's business or self-development , personal development or just getting the most out of life . So if you want good friendships , move to Arizona , Just getting the most out of life . So I think that coming here .
So if you want good friendships , move to Arizona .
I think that coming here was kind of a . There are a lot of people who are like us which is really cool .
Well , and I think the frequency that we were living on right before we got here was a perfect frequency match for here .
Yeah .
So let's close this out High vibe people are drawn to other high vibe frequency people like magnets , and that has certainly been my experience . So , whatever kind of friendships you want to cultivate , start becoming that person . Start becoming that friend now . And it's the same way in romantic relationships .
Whatever kind of partner you want to call in , start becoming that person . Start becoming that friend now . And it's the same way in romantic relationships . Whatever kind of partner you want to call in , start becoming that partner now . Anytime I feel like I'm not getting something from you that I want , I try to audit myself and go why don't I become that ?
for him and then see how he reacts , and more often than not you meet me .
Yeah , and then see how he reacts . And more often than not , you meet me , yeah . Well , we've always talked about how , if we feel like we're not getting something , from the other , then we're probably not giving something to the other two . So it's an equilibrium .
So what question ?
do you want to leave the ?
audience with Gosh . Sam , you're making me do the heavy lifting and I'm in the third trimester tire this is you're good at it okay , the question that I have for the audience is what kind of friendships do you want to attract in the next three months ?
And make yourself a little list , set the boundaries without the drama , and then nurture those relationships that feel expansive . All right , thank you all for listening . Live on purpose , live on frequency , and we will catch you in the next episode .
See you later .
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