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The Education Gadfly Show

Thomas B. Fordham Institutefordhaminstitute.org

For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.

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Episodes

#810: College for all or college for some? - 3/9/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Lizzette Gonzalez Reynolds, Vice President of Policy for ExcelinEd, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the pros and cons of the college-for-all movement. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses a study on how winning public-school-choice lotteries affects public school enrollment. You can find this and every episode on all major podcast platforms, as well as share it with friends. ...

Mar 09, 202227 min

#809: Diversity, the law, and the future of selective-admission schools - 3/2/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Fordham’s editorial director, Brandon Wright, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to talk about the shifting landscape of highly-selective high schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses a study on teacher morale during the pandemic. You can find this and every episode on all major podcast platforms, as well as share it with friends. Recommended content: Brandon’s piece from 2021, which ...

Mar 02, 202227 min

#808: End school mask mandates. It’s now or never - 2/23/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Daniel Buck, Fordham senior visiting fellow and English teacher at Holy Spirit Middle School in Appleton, Wisconsin, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to argue that the educational harms of face masks now outweigh their benefits. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses a study on whether alternative pathways to graduation benefit students who fail exit exams. You can find this and every epis...

Feb 23, 202224 min

#807: What are schools doing with their Covid relief dollars? - 2/16/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Thomas Toch, director of FutureEd, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the ways schools are spending $123 billion in federal Covid relief. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern discusses a study of how leaders are investing in the teacher workforce, and whether that aligns with the preferences of educators. You can find this and every episode on all major podcast platforms, as well as share...

Feb 16, 202224 min

#806: On school boards, curriculum controversies, and a Parents’ Bill of Rights - 02/8/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Robert Pondiscio, Mike Petrilli, and David Griffith discuss a school board’s controversial removal of a holocaust book from its district’s curriculum, and whether states should create a Parents’ Bill of Rights. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study of summer employment’s effect on the academic outcomes of low-income, urban high schoolers. You can find this and every episode on all major ...

Feb 09, 202229 min

#805: High schools didn’t get the memo that college isn’t for everyone - 02/02/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Checker Finn, Mike Petrilli, and David Griffith discuss whether American education should stop trying to send every student to college, and what that may mean for high school course requirements. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study on how universal school breakfasts affect disadvantaged student’s academic outcomes. Recommended content: Mike’s piece that sparked the conversation: “ We a...

Feb 02, 202223 min

#804: How charter schools are closing achievement gaps in metro areas - 01/26/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Andrew Campanella, president of National School Choice Week, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss Fordham’s latest charter school study, Still Rising , and how school choice helps students in traditional public schools, too. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study of how pandemic-related school disruptions affect children’s mental health. You can find this and every episode on all major podcast platforms. Recommende...

Jan 26, 202226 min

#803: John Bailey on Omicron and schools - 1/20/2022

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast , John Bailey, nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss Omicron’s impact on schools and whether the virus will soon be endemic. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study about the most in-demand college majors. Recommended content: John Bailey’s daily Covid-19 policy updates on Substack and his March 2021 review of public health research on schools for AEI, “ ...

Jan 19, 202227 min

#802: Erica Green on the pandemic’s impact on high school students - 1/12/2022

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Erica Green, national education reporter at the New York Times , joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss schools’ struggle to support teens’ mental health and respond to increasing misbehavior. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study on whether improving access to dual-enrollment courses raises participation. Recommended content: Erica Green’s New York Times piece about students ...

Jan 12, 202225 min

#801: Grumpy New Year with Checker Finn - 1/5/22

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast (listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify ), Checker Finn, Fordham’s senior fellow and president emeritus, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the big education issues of the past year and look ahead to 2022. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study showing that Black and Hispanic students are less likely to major in lucrative fields. Feedback welcome! Have ideas or feedback on our podcast? Send them to our podcast produ...

Jan 05, 202230 min

#800: Why we need virtue education in our classrooms - 12/21/2021

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Jennifer Frey, associate professor at the University of South Carolina and a regular guest writer for Fordham’s Flypaper blog, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss why and how we should incorporate virtue education in classrooms. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern runs down the best education research of 2021. You can find this and every episode on all major podcast platforms, as well as share it with friends. Recommended conte...

Dec 22, 202134 minEp. 800

#799: Build Back Better’s big impact on pre-k and child care - 12/15/21

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast , Elliot Regenstein, partner at Foresight Law + Policy and former member of Illinois’s Early Childhood Funding Commission, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss how the Build Back Better plan would affect pre-k and child care. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern covers a study that examines why students of color benefit from having teachers of the same race and ethnicity. Amber's Research Minute: David Blazar, “ Teachers of Color,...

Dec 15, 202130 min

#798: Which metro areas are accelerating student learning? - 12/08/21

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Adam Tyner, Fordham’s Associate Director of Research, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss our new analysis, America’s Best and Worst Metro Areas for School Quality , some of which may surprise you. And on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines the effectiveness of efforts to diversify the teacher workforce. Recommended content: Fordham’s new report at metro.fordhaminstitute.org . More of our work on metro areas: What You Make Depe...

Dec 08, 202127 min

#797: Why debunked reading practices continue to spread - 11/30/21

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Sandi Jacobs, Principal at EdCounsel and former Senior Education Program Specialist for Reading First at the U.S. Department of Education, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss why reading programs based on debunked science persist in schools. Her answer: It’s complicated. Educators, in part, may struggle with the idea that they’ve been teaching something incorrectly. And strong, evidence-backed replacements programs can lack hefty market...

Nov 30, 202129 min

#796: What Glenn Youngkin’s election says about education politics today - 11/16/21

On this week’s show, Andrew Rotherham, cofounder and partner at Bellwether Education partners, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss Glenn Youngkin’s election and what it means for education politics. He shared his thoughts about this on an interview for The 74, where he described the problem with Democrats ignoring parental concerns, in Virginia and nationally, about gifted education, Covid protocols, and how race is discussed in schools. But he also cautioned that Republicans shoul...

Nov 16, 202132 min

#795: Why we should test in K–2 - 11/10/21

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Dale Chu , senior visiting fellow at Fordham and independent education consultant, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to make the case for K–2 standardized testing. He wrote about this same topic earlier this month , noting that widespread distaste for such assessments would make implementing this change challenging. But he argued that the alternative is to continue burying our heads in the sand about our children’s most formative years, which wo...

Nov 10, 202124 min

#794: Universal pre-K seems imminent. Should we celebrate? - 11/4/21

On this week’s podcast, Lindsey Burke, director of the Center for Education Policy at the Heritage Foundation, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss what the Democrats' still-in-the-works “social infrastructure” bill may mean for pre-K and childcare. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines how differences in parental beliefs across socioeconomic backgrounds affect educational inequities. Amber's Research Minute: John A. List, Julie Pernaudet, and Dana Suskind, " It All Starts...

Nov 04, 202129 minEp. 794

#793: How D.C. increased teacher diversity and quality - 10/28/21

On this week’s podcast, Tom Toch, director of Future Ed, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss D.C.’s teacher-hiring strategy, and why other districts can and should follow suit. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines how teacher specialization in elementary schools affects student achievement. Amber's Research Minute NaYoung Hwang and Brian Kisida, " Spread Too Thin: The Effects of Teacher Specialization on Student Achievement ," retrieved from Annenberg Institute at Brown ...

Oct 28, 202126 min

#791: Is this the end of gifted education in New York City? - 10/13/21

On this week’s podcast, Brandon Wright, Fordham’s editorial director and coauthor of Failing Our Brightest Kids , joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss Mayor Bill de Blasio’s recent move to overhaul gifted education in New York City. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines the distribution of school resources in America, and what it means for disadvantaged students. Amber's Research Minute Kenneth Shores and Hojung Lee, " The Distribution of School Resources in The United Sta...

Oct 13, 202132 min

#790: Why boys flail - 10/07/21

On this week’s podcast, education writer Richard Whitmire joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss how boys’ education failure starts in the earliest grades. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines districts’ plans for remote learning during the pandemic.

Oct 07, 202130 min

#789: Too many lost Einsteins - 9/30/21

On this week’s podcast, Scott Imberman, professor at Michigan State University, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the new study he conducted for Fordham exploring the inequitable outcomes for early high achievers in Ohio. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines how admission to a high-quality charter school affects students’ voting patterns later in life.

Sep 30, 202127 min

#788: Has the pandemic caused an exodus to charter schools? - 9/23/21

On this week’s podcast, Debbie Veney, Senior Vice President at the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss her new report on Covid-era enrollment trends in charter and traditional public schools. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines the prevalence and use of industry-recognized-credential programs in high schools....

Sep 23, 202127 min

#787: How the Delta variant is impacting back-to-school season - 09/16/21

On this week’s podcast, John Bailey, nonresident senior fellow at AEI, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss how students’ transition back into classrooms is going in the face of the Delta variant and battles over vaccine, mask, and quarantine policies. On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines the unique characteristics of gifted programs. And check out our conversation with John earlier this summer about how schools were adapting to Covid!...

Sep 16, 202128 min

#786: Research deep dive: The impact of school voucher programs - 09/09/21

On this week’s podcast, Patrick Wolf, Distinguished Professor at the University of Arkansas, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith on the fifth edition of our Research Deep Dive series to discuss the impact of voucher programs—both on participating students and on kids in nearby public schools . Also check out our other deep dives on teacher effectiveness , school discipline , school closures , and urban charters ....

Sep 09, 202130 min

#785: Helping students fight disinformation online - 09/2/21

On this week’s podcast, Peter Warren Singer, strategist and senior fellow at New America and defense policy expert, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss the Cyber Citizenship Initiative, which helps build students’ resilience to digital misinformation . On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines how different teacher preparation programs impact graduates’ classroom effectiveness.

Sep 01, 202129 min

#783: One teacher’s call for choice and content-rich curricula - 08/19/21

On this week’s podcast, Daniel Buck, a teacher and Fordham’s newest senior visiting fellow, joins Amber Northern and Brandon Wright to discuss the importance of a strong curriculum, the inherent value in school choice, why he teaches, and more . On the Research Minute, Adam Tyner examines the connection between college applicants’ essay topics and their household incomes and SAT scores.

Aug 19, 202126 min

#782: Whatever you do, don’t call it social and emotional learning - 08/12/21

On this week’s podcast, Adam Tyner and David Griffith discuss the Fordham report Adam just authored on parental attitudes toward and the politics of social and emotional learning . On the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines how school-based mentoring affects academic success and post-secondary attainment.

Aug 12, 202126 min
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