The Draymond Green Show - Patrick Beverley

fan duel sports book makes it easy. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show. I am honored to have his next guest, a guy who I got a bunch of respect for. I always talk about, you know, guys who got it out the Mud and I and I respect guys that got it out the Mud, and it ain't it's not many guys that then got it out the Mud like this next guest, maybe other than

p J. Tucker. When you look at journeys through basketball and what guys had to go through to get to where they at today, no one has has I take that back. Udonis Hasler and p J. Tucker uh. And what I'm speaking of is guys who you know, you you go through college basketball and real players and like great players and then have to go overseas and take that journey and make their way back to the NBA. I can't imagine what that's like. And I like to think that I'm a mentally tough guy. But when you're

talking toughness, you can'tnot speak to this guy. When you're talking defense, you cannot speak to this guy. And when you're talking playoffs, you cannot speak to this guy. Honored how this next guest, Pat Bev? What's up? My brother Dre Love? Thanks for having me. I appreciate show. Thank you now. I appreciate it. Man, I'm honored to have you on as a guest. You know, we always two guys that go at it on the court, you know, and yet you know it's it's a bunch of respect.

But I just I really want to start off and just talk talking about your journey. You know, you're coming through West Side of Chicago, which which we all know is not an easy upbringing, you know, and and and making it through that and and averaging thirty seven and a half points a game in high school. Man, Just just talk to me about your journey through Chicago first. Uh, so, man, Chicago. Um mother raised me. A lot of a lot of strong women raised me. Usually that's that's the upbringing in

uh the Midwest. You know you're kind of familiar with that. Mom's being the background. So uh, you know, obviously growing up, you know, in the neighborhood I grew up in. You know, it was always you know, if I was on the corner, mom comes, drive down. Stay yeahs off that corner. You know, so so so so growing up, the upbringing was already like you know, the rules are set in front of you already, you know what I'm saying, even before I even knew NBA or anything, you know, so uh to

go through it, Uh, you know, we speed up. You know. I grew up in the household my grandma. She adopted eleven kids. I was the only child. Um and and the guy who started me playing basketball, My older cousin um Um started me playing basketball. He was the best kid in the hood at the time. I was the worst. Always got picked glass. You know what I'm saying. I couldn't shoot my PRN one right, you know. So, but but you know growing up like, I just kept going.

I kept balance, I kept ballance. I stayed at the gym. You know, when my cousins didn't want to go to the gym doing the show, I was there with my shovel shoveling up. But you know the fast forward all that that kind of brought you bringing me to you know, I'll bring in Chicago. Um, you know, let the stay scoring co player of the Year with Jonathanshire. Uh. You know,

so this Mud story, this ain't ain't the story. That's just you know, from I started for the Mud, even even at the park, you know, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just fortunate to be in a situation. Man. You know they people would kind of listen to me a little bit. Uh. My word holeds holds a lot of value now and U man, you know I'm just riding away with it. I respect that. Bro. And you you leave Chicago, you go to Arkansas, and you didn't play all four years at Arkansas, you end up leaving

early and actually going overseas. Take me on that journey through Arkansas with Okay, Arkansas. I wanted to get away from Chicago. I had Michigan in Arkansas. Uh, you would have been hyped. I would have went to mission. Yeah. So but look, I'm sorry, I haven't rewind that. I told you this a while ago. When I was in high school, we came down there and played jo I mean, who might had the film at that table. We came

down there and plays all high school but college. I went to Arkansas, I mean playing my ass all Freshmen of the Year, newcomer of the Year, um, all that sec I was first of All American and Steph Curry on the same team. Unfortunately, get invited to the USA team again and Steph Curry on the same team. Throughout this process, I'm going to Steve Nash camp, Paul Pierce camp, Lebron camp again. Step Curry roommates, you know, like you

know what I'm saying. Uh So, like you know, like like the story was, you know, it was, it was, it was. It's a good one. Um. You know, unfortunate situations happened in college. Uh, plagiarism, stuff like that. I got, I got suspended. UM. I chose to leave UM and go Overseas. My first team was a second division and you wow, second division in Ukraine. For all you listeners out there that don't understand what this man just said.

He's just the second division of Ukraine. Let me tell you something, the first Division of Ukraine probably isn't even a top five league in Europe. And this man, who who everybody loves and hate, who I've had my battles with, this man pissed me off to it seems to have a way of getting under everyone's skin. Um it's now doing what he's doing after playing in the second division of Ukraine. I'll tell you something interesting and and and I applaud you and like I just said, p j

U D on your path. I walked into my assistant coach office when I was a senior in college and I said to him, I said, D, I think this is my last year playing basketball And he said what And I'm like, no, D, this is my last year playing bro. I can't go overseas bright like I hate built for that. I don't know if I can handle that. That's too far away from home for me. Like I can't do that. And he started laughing at me, like, man,

shut up, you'll get drafted. But like people don't understand that grind and going overseas you leaving your family for nine or ten months. Ukraine is probably cold. You're in second division, probably busting places. Talk to us about being on the second division team all the way in Ukraine. Okay, so second division. I had a son real early in college. Um for early in my freshman year, UM, my sophomore year. Um, I just had my daughter. So so at the time

I was getting dismissed out of school. Uh, my daughter has just been born. So at the time, I'm I'm out of school. I got two kids. I'm out of school. I don't have a job. I'm I'm you know, he kicked out of July, the drafts in June. That just passed up. Um, um meeting with you know, I'm meeting my coaches. Shout out Nick Nurse. He's a poach. First coach I met with our energy. Um. I don't get a job unto I don't get a job unto October November. So I'm just in Chicago and you know your product

of your environment, say to bye, to get by whatever. Um. And then I get a call. I get a call Ukraine. I'm super excited. You're talking about one plus rides game. You're talking about twenty three hour train rides. You're talking about Washington Jersey. You're talking about you. You're you're when you're playing that, it's a y m c A. You know, like the oldest guy on my team, like his son was my age, you know. Like, so my experience was it was very different. I came over there with my mom.

Uh you know, we didn't I think they gave him four thousand dollars in cash and we bought some groceries with it. Come home, plug in the PlayStation, all all the lights go out, you know. So like I went through the whole I went through the whole thing. I went through the whole thing. That's that's absolutely insane. Man. Like I said, I take my hat off to you, and I just don't know if I could do that. Man, you could do it. A few people that could do you.

A few people that and so you you you did that. Obviously you elevated yourself. But how much longer did you still Overseves before you then made your way back? And I actually played against you your first year with the Rockets. Yeah, so I go, I go, I go Ukraine. I get drafted out of Ukraine. Uh, Lakers draft me trade me to the I go summer League. Key, I don't. I didn't. I didn't feel like I know how to run the point yet. I didn't think my gang was ready yet.

I go to Greece. I played for the biggest team at the time, Olympiakos me Josh Children's bond Way for Lennis Clay's probably one of the best teams put together on paper. We go to euro League Championships. We lose to Ricky Rubyo of Barcelona. I'm the youngest African am actually ever playing ear League, you know again, and so with the story with that, I go to EUR League. I had to make the team. Why I didn't make the team. I made the team. I played the first game,

didn't play the rest of the season. We're losing about thirteen at half. In the year League championship. Coach comes in, Patt, you couldn't make this up. I couldn't make this up. You always told me that, man, I've always seen something you Patton will be better than everyone on this team. Just trust me, trust the process. I wrote the bench

the whole year. Any any regular American it was gonna take as back home absolutely, you know, stay there, worked on my game, came back to the heat boom signed my first NBA contract. I'm excited. I'm playing with Lebron James, I'm playing with d Wade, I'm playing with Chris Bosh, I'm playing with Mike Miller. I'm excited. I got callers Royal, Mario Chalmers in front of me. I'm thinking in my head two years I can catch them, you know, like the competition within it. Mike Miller gets hurt. I think

he hurtsys thumb. Guarden, Lebron and practice. I was man on the totem Pold. I gotta go back overseas. Unfortunately, unfortunately I have to go back to Russia. And you know my mindset at the time, pride for young man. You know me, I'm Manu, the NBA man. They don't want me to this. I just set on my career in Russia. I signed one of the biggest contracts on Russia. Played there a year. Uh next following year, I came to the NBA. It's crazy and I'm sure Jackson will

find this clip the Rockets. Pat Bath comes to the Rockets the first year. We're playing against the Rockets and they're about to break a three point record. Pat catches the ball in the corner, and he about to tea all the shot and I come out of nowhere and filed the ship out of pat bad. And now the way I filed him, and this is this is where everybody should have knew. Bro a little funked up. The way I filed him, most people would get up upset. Actually,

I'll tell you what. Most people would get up like. Most people would get up and act like they upset, act like they're gonna fight, and act like they're gonna do all that. He hopped up, like ship the file and go to the free thrown and shoot the ball. And I'm like, all right. So for those of y'all out there that don't know how they value he wait, talent. There's a little key for y'all till you know when

you got another sick one. When he say get like that, it's just you know, Joe d told me a story before man Jody told me a story about Dennis Robbing, and he said, Rick Mahorn laid Dennis robbing and asked out. He said, Dennis Robman got up and said, now we're playing some basketball and walked to the free throw line. I couldn't believe it, but that's what that That's what that moment reminded me of. And I've been getting them stories from Joe these for years, and when you did that,

I'm like, cus a little different out here. But people don't understand that when that happened though, people don't see and I can't wait to people hear this, like this is like this is a profound story. Like so when that happened, me and Drake were beginning our own little personal be from that from that game, you know, and we were beating for like four or five years to a point where like we see each other in chapel, I don't know what to say and he don't know

what to say looking at me. Okay, it's cool today, I guess, you know, Like and the older we got the NBA is crazy that we're sitting here right now. Like God is good about yes he is. The reality is I think as two black men and it's a

totally different thing, but that's two black men. We tend to keep that on, you know, and keep that going, know what I'm saying, And I'm happy that we were able to get past that, but also from a total basketball standpoint, you are at supposed to still be here, all right, you know what I'm saying that, like, we're not supposed to be here anymore. And so the fact that you're thriving and doing what you're doing, I've been able to do what I do. Bro, I don't. I

don't take this for granted at all. And I know, and I tell people all the time, you don't. You don't take this for granted even more than I do. And the reason I say that and what I'm getting at here is you play like I can admit, I have some NICs. I come out and I just can't find it. I don't feel like there's ever a game where you can't find it. And to me, as someone who is known for playing hard, their players hard as hell. Brother walked me through that because even to me, I

I just can't. I can't understand that it's games. Play every game you possibly can, and you find it every night, like like, walk me through what's getting you going every single night you go out there. So it started, like with the conversation before, So it started at the simplest thing of being the last kid picked then that goes from high school to be you know, Sharon Collins and Jonathan Shire being ahead of me. You know, and that

goes from college. Man, Mario Chalmers and Collins Royal, how the fun they picked them over me, and you know, and it was and it's all that in Monstery. It's all that ship built on me, on top of me, on top of me to a and I was like, you know what, man, I remember I can listen to the American flag over there five years in a row, like I remember, like dans were going me. I mean they still still boo me, but like stuff that, it

wasn't even like a more of a hate things. So when I get to the NBA's I'm not taking this for granted. Man, I can't take this for granted. Every night I step out there, I'm giving them all. So I might get hurt some years just the way I played put my body on line on that. But man, a guy brought me this fartment. I came back and down.

I gotta go hard, you know. And that's just always been my mentality, Like just go hard, not from like a a selfish like a selfish part, not from like I wanted the money, like, not from any of that. Just the point like I'm in an NBA, I'm playing with the best of them. I want to be prepared every single night to go out there and be successful. And like obviously I lose, I lose some battles. And with that mindset, I want a lot of bottles too, you know, So like absolutely, you know that's a that's

a fact. And I think you're you're I I spoke about this on my podcast, on this podcast during during the finals, You're some guys get boomed, and they get boomed for several reasons. Some guys get booed because as they quit. Uh, some guys get booed because you know, for whatever reason. And some guys get booed and it's a badge of honor. And you are one of those

guys that you get booed. It's a badge of honor because and I can admit this, like I was once one guy that that didn't believe like and everything you did. I I respected your grind, but I just I didn't see it like and I saw the work ethic and I saw all of that, but it just didn't make sense to me until I really had to dive in, Like, but he do this every single night, like every night, Like you know, sometimes you get caught up and you think, like it's antics, it's this, it is that. But you

can't keep antics up every single night. You can't do that, you know, And so like you you you you, I honestly truly say that you made me a believer. You know what I'm saying. I can't sit here in your face and say I was always a believer. You made me a believer like you've made everybody believers. And I got a lot of respect for that. You've done something and I want you to talk to me about this. You've done something that I was on course of doing

and then I lost it. And you've went to the playoffs on every single team that you've been on, and that that that's no coincidence because the way you bring it every single night, that's gonna like lead to a bunch of wins and then guys picking up when they see that energy. But talk to me about just getting to the playoffs every single year. Like you know, there's all time greats. You play with probably arguably the greatest player to ever played. I didn't make the playoffs all year.

I played with one of the greatest players ever played. Didn't make the playoffs every year. Talk to me about getting back there every single year. You've had injuries, uh certain years and you're still coaching on the sideline and doing all that to get your teams there. Just talk to me about that mindset going in every year like I'm getting there. So when I first came to the league with the Rockets, we were just really talented and was I think we were the act that the time,

but we were just young. Really time to young. James Hard and Jay Land chat with Parsons. So my first year with the playoffs obviously is my first year. I don't understand the ground. I just know that in the game I play, we're supposed to win, and like if I lose, I'm angry. But then I get on the bus, this guy is not angry, and this guy's on his phone and this guy is something to So I'm like, Okay, maybe losing it's losing okay. No, I'm fun that fun

that losing is not okay. I will not accept that. So, you know, at the four or five years, get into the playoffs Western Conference Finals with the Rockets, you know, and I go to the Clippers and and and I get put in the trade. You know, me Lu Tree, Sam Deker, all the picks and Chris Paul. I kind of looked at like and I I know it one just me, but like, you know, I got traded, like

Chris Paul, like that's that's a big deal. Like I hope maybe I hope a little bit about you, you know, And when I got to the Clippers, I just wanted to, like, you know, I just wanted to kind of keep it going. You know. Some years my you know, like like like like some years, my attitude, you know, I wasn't coming in with the best attitude and training account, you know, some years obviously because I'm young. I don't know, I'm still trying to figure it out. You know, I don't

know how to you know, really be a professional. I really haven't had really good that so I'm really kind of learning everything on the go, you know. Um but man, when it all click, Man, it all click. I don't know, maybe my you know, third year and Clippers. I mean this is maybe four years ago and it all clicked. It all clicked. The work at, the ability to voice what I have to say, the ability to coach, I'm

I'm the game has slown down. Like you know, I've always had great coaches growing up, Like now the game is a slow motion like I see things defensively that even coaches don't see, you know, and and and and I became like addicted to it, right like I became addicted to it. Like I wanted to get better. I wanted to find ways to get better. I wasn't a goot pick and role player. I wanted to get better at that. I wanted to a good three point shoot, okay, cool.

I wanted to keep my percentages up. Okay, say you're asking the corner, then, like that's the shocks in the corner. Say less, Like I begin find ways to like being one of the top like professionals in the NBA, you know, owing it off the court, no d y s, no domestics, no none of that funny ship, no drinking and driving like so my brand has always been solid, but you know,

with the antics, people to know who I am. So but when you do it for so long, like you say, people like, damn, that's maybe that's just really him, like you know, and and and from there, it's just the addiction just grew and grew, and I just you know, everything I do, I see things most I see things

other people don't see. I see things coaches from see like and and and I've just been it's been fun now, you know, Like it went from like hard, like damn, I gotta grind, grind, to like it's fun now, like it's so much fun now, you know. So I mean you know that, you know that, you know that the best. So I think when that game started to slow down for you and you can see plays to use two steps ahead of these players before they happen, it's fun

as hell. Because for me personally, I feel like like going into game, I'm like, I'm gonna the whole office up, like no problems. I'm about to destroy their whole office. I know what they're trying to get to. I know what he trying to do. I'm about to mess the whole office up. And that's you every night, like you gotta do something else. I got to you got it? And my thing is and you you know, it's promises.

And I tell everybody this, like it's no one in the in the game right now that impact like winning the way the way you do on your level and the way I do on my level. Obviously I'm not a champion, so I can't even even speak to that caliber. But but you don't have to be a Champian to be a winner. That's the first thing you understand what I'm saying. Like so like you know, my time maybe hasn't come yet, but like all those same ingredients involved

the same thing, you know. So when it comes to impact impact in a game like that, it's fun now, man, because he's out of control. I'm gonna just take a charge on him. He's gonna get frustraighted. I'm getting on his skin. Okay, I'm a faither ship out of him. Okay, Tech, he's out the game, all right, Cool, that's cool. Next, who I got next? Okay, coach, I'm gonna talk to the coaching him a little router that bullsh that system

he's running. Okay, the delayship don't work for pressure on the big right here from Okay, got the coach argue with me. I'm cool, I'm cool. Now, I'm good, I'm good. My job is this my star pressures off, y'all. They're all looking at me, y'all. Make y'all freak those who need to. You'll make y'all three points when you need to. I got it, y'all good, you know, And it's and it's you know, it is. That's how it is. I hope, I hope to God that y'all understood what this man

just said. I hope y'all understood what this man just did, because that right there is impressive. That right there is why who you are who you are. That right there's why you're in the playoffs every year because all of those things. People don't understand those things. Like for for those of you that couldn't quite understand, he said, Okay, I'm gonna take this man out of the game. Okay, I know he's a little out of control. Le'm gonna take a charge out of him, my own his skin.

Let me go get this next guy up. Just got him. He got a tech all right, dang oh, I got him another. He got the game. Let me get to this coach. Hey, your system is awful now he right he talking to me. He's not thinking no more about the system he actually running. Do do y'all understand what this man just did? That is absolutely insane, bro, And I respect it. I get it, I love it. I appreciate it right there, like that is being a master

at what you do. You know what I'm saying. I think so many people get caught into like, oh man, he don't score, he don't do this, he don't do that. And I saw shout out to Rico, hans O g Rico. I saw, I saw um you were speaking and speaking on Rico. One thing I respect about Rico is when guys coming to Jim, Rico want to hear himself talk. Rico want to hear the guys talk that he's seen doing it that he respect and I love and I respect that because you get number one, he's gonna require

that you play great basketball. That's number one. But then you get like real game and Rico give give game to like game like o G. But when you're getting game from guys that's doing it currently, that's that's doing it right now, that's been doing it for a long time with some of these younger guys, that being that gym, it rings differently. And I saw, uh, your speech and it was very similar to something that I had said there. And you were just talking about like, uh, different roles

and what guys got to do in the league. And I respect that and just just like talk to me about being a master in your role because people can't quite understand that and because of that. They don't understand the value that's that one is bringing. So just talk to me about being a master as you are in your role, so Irish STARNI in high school, I go to college, they bring me in put the ball and oh I go overseas to have the same traces that I had in college and high school and the US

you know, the Olympic game team. Put the ball in the hole. That's always been my thing is put the ball in the whole pad, get to the paint, it's the free throw line, put the ball in home. Do you We're talking about m v P s and euro Cup like put the ball in the hole. I had to come and learn the whole fucking new skills, draaytense. That's like Steph Curry being a shooter coming to the league and being the best defensive player in the world. A new trade and had to master that trade in

order for me to be successful. I had to master trade that I didn't know zero like very little bout So okay, cool, alright, bet okay, cool. No one's picking up ninety four ft. Okay, I'm gonna pick up ninety four feet Okay, Okay, I'm gonna to take that little I'm gonna take that with you, Mr ninety four feet. But now if I do pick up whatever I want that my title to be, I have to back that up.

In order back that up, I need I need. I need something solid, what solid awards, awards that come from the NBA, not just what I think what other people think. And okay, cool, Okay, first team, you got a couple of second teams? Okay, kaua uh you got defensive player? Ye I don't really know nobody that I can just call off on phone to get defense. What do I need to do? Who? You need to block more shots? Man? Okay, and take more charges? Okay? The last year career eye

steals top ten charges. Let's number one guarden. Block shots don't make a fucking team. Now I'm angry, you know what I'm saying. Like so, but it comes with it. Okay, goom, that's the whole beauty of that started this ship, that started from the beginning. Let's get back. Let's wrap it all up. That didn't work, stretch that stratch through that training?

Should I deal with them? Handstrings? Fun that. Let's work on the cross that you know understand whatever you get better, We got to get better because you gotta make a team. That's the only way I can so lit, I'm trying to piece together ways of you know, um, I'm trying to individually getting better. I don't know if that's my body. I don't know if that's my mind. So Jo, I just go through a phase one year. I just started looking at all coaches. Bro I started looking at all

the coaches who came on the top. I can all the coaches who came to the Mike Wootenholzer system. I started looking at all the coaches with a system they're running where they at now, Uh, we're okay. If the offense is driving a ball, where's the ball come droving from the Most of the time, I'm getting my numbers. Okay, slots, slot drives, Okay. I can take advantage there. I can be in charge lanes, okay. Cool. I got to respect

around the league. They let me a foul. I can knock the shoot out of people that they won't call it, especially young guys. I gotta watch I do step though, because they might try to kick me out. Then I went through a whole phase of like, okay, like with tendencies. So I have them. All I have. All my training is like man, fuck okay, cool, like fuck the skille. This summer, I need to know. I need to spend a year I just knowing players. I was overseas, so

I didn't play against these guys in college. I didn't know how set and such moves off screens or have such and such a move. I just I just knew. Okay, give me Tennessee. So I spent one summer bro weight room, conditioning, and film study, not even basketball skill. I have to sacrifice of the year of my basketball skill because I understand, like, okay, that ship go come, I'm gonna get up all the attempts,

all the shots that ships go come. I gotta stand in his his sleep, and I wonder for me to stay in this league, I gotta pick up ninety four. I gotta calls have it. I gotta know what's going on. And I have no tendencies. I have to no tendencies better than my coaches. That So I'm going through the and I'm going through different plays, and I'm going through different people. Okay, Steph Curry obviously, and I can't touch

him like I wanted to. Al Right, cool, watch that left hand you know, kind of send him left because you don't really like that ocause Clay, I gotta stay down on him. You know, I'm'm facing dang. Okay, he might pull deep, but I'm living with that ship. I don't that really can't beat me consistently, not not all game. And if he does, saying you got me tonight, you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, Okay, Katie, Okay, cool.

He's never really seen a player like me guard him, not a small ones, So fucking I'm gonna just take his legs. I'm gonna put my fucking back on his fucking hand strings every play until it's too much. I'm gonna keep going and say, you know, I get kicked out it's too much of him, Drake. I gotta get it, bro, I have to get it, Dre I do, because ain't nobody gonna get it for Pat Bell like I gotta go get it on my own. And that's what that's became. I you know, add that to the addiction that I

have to want to win out like. It's a sick combination, bro, it really is. And speaking of the awards, you talked about the awards. You know you got first team, which, by the way, Pat Bell, he do first team. A lot of respect for Pat Bell, and I'm gonna shout out somebody who I know he got a lot of respect for from the same city. Tony Allen. Talked to me about Tony Allen and his his path through the league and what impact did that have on you coming from the same city. So, so t A. You gotta

understand t A will buy them. These are like the Godfathers in Chicago. Obviously you have to antone Walkers, and but these guys are way a little older than me. You know, I'm talking about games that I actually went to as the seventh grader, looking like can't like man, I can't wait to play in this game, you know, like like that. So when I got in touch with will buying him, he kind of gave me the blueprint, like you know, he was playing with Detroit at the time.

Everyone can everyone, man, everyone plays offense. I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna get you in touch with somebody. Pat y'all. Y'all are literally twins. You're the same person. You need to talk to him. Okay, what's his name, Tony Allen? I'm oversea, so I'm like hell yeah, like hell yeah, like hell, y'all want to talk to t A. I talked to t a Um and he gave me. He gave me like raw ship, like so how is your grip strength? And I'm like, I don't know. Do you do finger to push ups? Like I'm no, how is

your lunch? Like everything was about body body strength strength strength. Instantly, I hang up the phone. I could. I can't. I can't lie to you, bro, I hang up the phone. I'll go right to the way the room. I think I blank out in that bit. I'm in that bit, sifted like three hours straight. You feel me. I gotta do what Tony Allen did. So now I'm seeing t A He doing his thing Memphis. He playing y'all you're

on the ground, he yelled the first team. Oh my god, like the impact he had with it, Like, Okay, t A you from Chicago. I'm from Chicago. You're the big homie. Like, can I get that? Set me? Get that? Then I know you on your way out. I ain't gonna do wrong back. I'm gonna do right a back. Get funny trouble, I'm gonna do right back. He man, all respect, take you gotta, you know, And that's just always been my thing. You know, I always feel like I'm first saying no

matter what, no matter what. And you have that type of impact, you know what I'm saying. Obviously a lot of people that vote on these things that you know that's a whole story, you know, but you have that type of impact. And I think the guys that your garden and the guys that gott to see you every night, they feel that way, right And absolutely facts, you know, you have to be a color for in a major way. Uh don't don't bring him up, send him back there.

Let's try to bring this guy. Absolutely no that that's a fact. But in speaking of defensive guys, Marcus Smart one defensive player of the Year, first guard since Gary payton Um, what does that do for your psyche? Does that make you say, Okay, now I can break through because I should have been in that uh conversation anyway, or do you feel like that's a one time thing where it's like, all right, let's check this box again.

But it's not really possible for guards because like yourself, like Tony Allen, it's crazy that Tony Allen never won the defensive player to you or you talk to any body who was anybody, most guy Kobe, Steph Clay. You talk to these guys, and most guys talk about Tony Allen's defense and like the defense that he played for years. I had the opportunity to witness him met like completely take us out of our offense, Like do you think that opens doors? Or do you think that's kind of

a check the box thing? And and goes back to the bigs. So you know, after when I when I seen the Marcus smart thing, I do mean, was piste the funk off? J I ain't gonna laugh, bro, And I'll be a fool not to sit from a competitor standpoint. I'll be a cap sitting on here telling you I wasn't piste off on that, not from like I don't want him to get it from Like damn, I'm happy a guard got it, but damn I've been sitting right here like I've been sitting right here for years. But

I respect it. A guard got it, you know. So now I'm like, Okay, what do I have to do? Now? You have to block more shots? So I have to okay, fun that Pat, you gotta win more. You gotta win more. Okay, you gotta win more, and you gotta be more healthy, like playing sixty five games. Fucking maybe you guys just gotta play the whole eight two pat Okay, cool? So

what does that mean now for the summertime? Okay? Maybe lift a lot more rest now you also, like again I changed it, changed and changed and moding it like for him and trying to make it fit, trying to make make it work, trying to Okay, do you guys see me without hey, look at me? You know, like if you see the work instead of like, don't hear my boys? Look at the work, you know, And that's and that's kind of be my thing. But is it a one time thing? I don't know. I hope not,

Like you know, I hope not. Is it fair? You got you know, six nine guys you know, you know the Rudy Gobert is of the league. You know, I

mean do they defensively? Yeah, the numbers are there, but it's people like you know, like again that's another conversation, you know what I'm saying, so like you know, so like it's it's you know, I just want to I just wanted to be consistent whatever the boat needs because it was a year I felt like you should have been a Defensive Player of the the Year and it was how you only make the first team? Like very interesting but but noted. Okay, you know, So that's the kind

of thing I'm you know, I'm flawing with. Is it I need to be better in the media? Do I need to handle them nicer? I'm not gonna, you know, down myself to make another person happy just to get an award though, Like I'm not gonna do that, Like I'm not gonna do that. So what's the balance? Do I need to be nicer to the media? Do I need to you know, because you know, I'm not really a guy that's you know, hey, how are you doing?

I'm not the first ain't basis guy? Because when I was out there in Chicago on that block, I whant nobody checking on Pat Bill, So I don't really need to make sure you get away from my locker. Motherfucker. I got ship, like you know, like you really in my way, like you know what I'm saying. So like that's been that's been my whole thing, you know, And man, is it awards or is it respect? Pat? Like did you come in here for rewards awards or did you

come from respect? Like if I can leave in the game, I got one of these top dudes dang or staff and they never admitted in and and you know, during their career. But when they've done, they say, man, Pat Bill gave me problems. That's better than any award I can get, Dre, I ain't go. That's a fact of respect of your peers goes way further than anybody else's respect. That's a fact absolutely as you should because that's what everybody gonna remember, you know what I'm saying, And that's

that's what ultimately drives us, you know. So and speaking to me, by the way, I just read something, uh and you just you just hinted at it. I just read something like a week or two ago where the media is coming back in the locker room. Uh as as as someone who is a partner of the media, yourself included to that which we're about to get to. But I think that's absolutely ridiculous because nothing gets done before the game. Like I'm just be honest with you,

I'm not talking to anybody before no game. I don't have anything to talk about. I'm just that's not, so you don't have interviews taking place, so it's essentially just eavesdropping. People come stand in the locker room, look around, look around, look around, and it's a waste of time. And quite frankly, it bothers me because our locker rooms should be our sanctuary. You know, that should be you know, our place. You know everybody speaks on mental health and all of these things.

That should be a place of peace. That should be a place where you can go and you can settle down all of this stuff going on. I need to go there and just chill out for a second. Not oh uh, what they have to leave with this amount of time on the clock, Because the reality is by time that time on the clock come, it's actually my time to lead the locker room, to go to chapel, to go do my lift, to go uh, do my shooting, to get my core stuff in tape. It's time to

lead the locker room. There, So you never really get a time to have peace in the locker room. And I think that should be like that's that's what that place is. It's your sanctuary. Like no one, no one can just walk in somebody office and sit there when they want to and listen. But in our locker room, you could just come in there and sit there. I don't understand that. Yeah, I think, honestly, dry ain't gonna lie.

This game is so it's so uh it's real and whatever the inside game is, but outside it's so trauma on it's so he says, She's say, it's so oh this person said this person, And I think NBA loves that. So allowing media comes and you know, you might you might get some stories that you might not just get on the media out and I think that's the you know, that's the thing they're trying to get and run from it and you know, and take it away from so you know, in fact, it do get a bit soap operation.

It does. It does get a bit that way at time. But you know, and speaking of the media and the new media, uh, you know, I've been saying that, and you know, I, like I said, I spoke about it on this podcast and just watching you um go up there on first take and watching you on get up and seeing you start your media journey, and I'm, like I said, I'll be the first to say it was a pleasure for me to watch. You were very knowledgeable

which I think is beautiful. I am not going to do you the disrespect and say you spoke well, as if that's not expected. You know, I hate when people tell me, oh, man, you speak well, what am I supposed to speak bad? Like? How am I supposed to sound like a fucking idiot? And so I'm not going to give you the You spoke well, but you were very knowledgeable, you were certain and what you wanted to say,

and you didn't back down from no bump. And I don't think people understand what it's like going up there and sitting next to stephen A. Stephen A is great like what like. He is the best, absolutely elite at like he is the best at what he does. He is the absolute best. And I don't think people understand what it takes for you to go sit up there, listen to one of his rents, keep your train of thought because he may say something in the first five to ten seconds that you want to risk one too.

But he may go on for two minutes and you have to hold your train of thought for the rest of that time while he says seven other things that you want to respond to, and then you have to respond back, not stumble over yourself, know exactly what you're talking about if for one second you think you're gonna say uh and actually, um, he gonna come right back

in and destroy what you were saying. So I don't think people really understand the pressure of that and then actually being able to go up there and do it like you did. But what made you want to start your media journey right now? And where are you planning on taking it? It's a three part question, and I know you'll roll with it. And then thirdly, what was that like going up there with a go You know,

we always talk about playing a goods goes. You you're playing with arguably the go Now, like, what was that like going up there and facing the goat every single day you went up there? So I knew I was Like I knew I was. I was always good with words, like I was always witty, Like I'm quick on my feet. You know what I'm saying. You say too, I say, you know four? You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm

real quick. I just I just with the media, especially the new media, your your your facts have to be point and and and and and and a timely facts. Not something that happened that happened, that happened timely fact that you hey, yeah you said that, But that's that's very interesting to me because you just said this. So I'm trying to see how this compared to what you just said, because if they don't equal up to me, so help me understand, so I could like so I

can be better, you know. And it came sarcastically, which opened the doors say everything you know, like, and I have fun with it, like you know, I'm I'm always tell the truth. But the person I am on the media and the person I am in my regular life is the person that I am on a basketball court.

So it's not like I'm I'm two different people. Like if I if I say he's a calm when he's a bum, I'm I'm gonna say that to your face, like I'm not gonna you know, you know, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, it ain't Aaron Gordon like you you're a two K player, like you know you know what I'm saying. So like I don't have a problem saying that because when we play Denver Nuggets, I'm gonna say the same thing to him in his face. You know, whether Mic is there or not, so far

as being nervous about saying things wasn't an issue. But going up there with stephen A, it was like, I don't think people understand like his his vocabulary, Like it's insane, My goodness, brocavalary, dude, that the source of encyclopedia. Dude is all of that, all of that comes up and he's so fresh and he's and people don't understand like

he's an older guy. It's like, so for him to still be able to like to to to to to say a word and to deliver a message, and anybody on any age left can like understand it, grasp it and have knowledge about that. It's got status, bro, It really is. It really is so like to go up there, you know obviously you know I'm not gonna go up there like I'm just this, I'm a ask questions, I'm a you know, text the night before. I'm I'm prepared straight. I got my notes out. You know, I'm saying, I

don't even want to watch the playoffs. Fucking man, I watched this ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, I got my notes out, so I want to come. I want to come prepare because I don't want to be I don't want to disrespect Stephen A. Smith because he's gonna test me. You know now, you and his Now you're in his Now, you're in his playground. See if we always you know, we all call him out when he gets to talking. Who you know what I'm saying

that he knows stuff. But I would never believe that Stephen ain't no basketball better than me, just like you, like, this is what we do. This is what we eat, breathe live, this is what we do. But you go up there, now you in his battlefield. You better be ready to go every time too. And he go test you, and he go cut you off, and he gonna talk, like you said, he goes, he goes throw, he goes throw a little bit out there at the beginning. Let up off of it. Two minutes later, come back to

it and you're sitting there. You can't be sitting there like the right pash next you can't do it out the way. Now you're looking crazy on TV. Absolutely, I'm gonna control my narrative, Stephenny. I said this. I'm staying with this. This is my team, this is my prediction. I remember when I was up there, everybody time out and Draymond Draymond same. I need to relax that this

man knows exactly what he's doing. Man, absolutely, Man, you think this team has came all the way to the championship, the fucking lose like they're battle tested, battle proven with and without Katie. Like, man, y'all trip, oh, Pat, you were right about Draymond. He was gonna I'm a basketball player, like obviously, like dray know what's going on? Okay, cool, let me get that attention, all right, Steph, y'all cool now, alright, cool now song that's hoop. Now it's just test game. Man,

it ain't checked us, man, it ain't. You know, so like and and going up there with Stephen A. Smith was a vibe man, and and like he's one of the few guys that like he helps you. He's not here to like step on you or like you feel me you gonna let you know it. Yeah, it's still my ship without respect, but like he helps me. He ain't here to like hold information from me or like

tip like let you stepping some ship. And then like oh man, watch you're going like na he go warning you everything is to come and you gotta appauled a brother like that, especially after American brother like that. Straight up. That's the fact I love that brother. Man. He helps me. He'll send me text smashages. If he seen me do something well, he'll call me. If he seen me do something wrong, he'll call me. And I always tell people. People quick to ask about stephen A And I always

tell people, I say, man, that's a real guy. Like you know, you you see him go to work and you're like, oh, he did he that. I'm telling you that's a real guy. And he cares and he helps, and he's not he's not insecure. He which he's willing to put his neck out on the line for you if you asked for him to put his neck out on the line. But I got a lot of respect and appreciation for him because, like you just said, uh,

this is a business where man everybody after everything. And yet he's so secure who he is and what he brings that he's not afraid to help and and and that's and that's not a regular thing for most people. And I'll tell you it was something that I did and I wanted to see you got you gonna hate me, bro, I gotta go miss catch this buzz me in Bakers, But I'm so sorry. All good, All good, my dog. Let me ask you one more question, one more question,

real quick. Yeah, what what did what? What did it do for you when Russ was at When Russ was at your press conference, when you get when you got introduced. Oh no, no, no no, When Russ came through like that, bro, when he came through like that, that was like it felt like it felt like a homie that I didn't I didn't know I had. It felt like it felt

like because you know, like when it comes to the meaner. Obviously, I'm not talking about skilling talent, and people always get this fucking mixed up and I'm talking about skilling talent. I'm just talking about like demeanor and attitude. When it comes to like demeanor and attitude. Like me and Russell damn are the same. People, understand what I'm saying. Facts We were then the same. Like that, it was like I had a friend that like I didn't even know

I had. As you all just heard, Pat Bev had to take off and and run to his bus with the team, which I totally understand as a professional guy. No, he's a guy that's never late, although give him a little crap, he was late for the show, but obviously he was with the team. Nonetheless he had to run to his bus. But my question was, how did Russ Russell Westbrook show ain't up at his press conference impact him? And the answer cut out and I wish we could have got the full answer, and maybe one day we

will get the full answer. But how did that impact him? Because one thing, and Russ catches a lot of flat. One thing I've always heard about him from just about anybody that that has ever played with him, is he one of the best teammates they've ever had. And him showing up to that that press conference, that that when Patrick Beverley was introduced, UH settled. It says a lot about Russell Westbrook the basketball player, but it says more

about Russell Westbrook, Uh, the man. Uh that that is constantly disrespected, But it says more about the man you're talking to, guy who I think there'll be first originated when Pat Bev went for the still when he's calling time out of Russ hurt his knee. Two in the battles, constantly constant battles and Pat chirping and Rush chirping, and they're getting into it, and then they end up on the same team. They're saying Russ is gonna get traded and what does Pat Beth come into the Lakers now

mean for us? They're gonna move on. And that man showed up to the press conference. I know most people will ignore that. I know most media will ignore that, but the new media, we won't ignore that. That's incredible. It says everything that it should about Russell Westbrook. And so I just wanted to hear what that did from Pat Bath. So you'll get a snippet of it. We gotta snippet of it. He had to run, but it

was great. I have. I have this line of you you meet your hero in life, like it's better to not meet your hero. Whoever your hero is. It's better to not meet your hero because if you have a hero, if you have a hero and you meet them and say, it could be a bad day, like they could be the nicest person in the world, they could always be willing to speak or sign an autograph, and and you know that day. You know, Uh, when I'm with my kids, I try not to sign autographs. I feel like I'm

away from them all the time. Uh, you know, I'm not all the time, but you know, when I'm on the road or anywhere you go, it's like, uh, you know, people want your attention. But for me, when I'm with my kids, I want to give my kids all of my attention. And I don't think it's fair for them for me to have to answer to other things because of who I am. Like, no, they deserve time with

their dad, and so I'm gonna give them that. However, what I have to understand is one of my biggest pet peeves is when you meet your hero and they're not really a hero. And what do I mean by that? Like, they don't give you that feeling that you thought you would get if you ever met your hero. They don't uh show you the attention that you would have won it and I and I can honestly say sometimes it's

it's very situational. But I said all of that to say it's it's it's when you meet someone or you know, in this case, I didn't meet Pat Beth, but having an opportunity to talk to Pat Bear and they are exactly what you've grown to believe they are, or or even more than that, is absolutely incredible and what I just had the honor and pleasure of listening to what you all just had the honor and pleasure of listening to. I hope you appreciated it, and I hope you you

really took everything away from it. And this interview is for Morgens just basketball players. This interview is for somebody who hungry. Uh. This this this this segment of the show. This is for somebody who down on their luck and and don't really know if it's possible to get back up. Because what you just witnessed is a guy who again had a baby freshman year, had another baby second year, on his way getting kicked out of don't get a call making ends meet, gets a call to go to

second division in Ukraine. Two years before that, that guy was afaging thirty eight points a game in Chicago. Chicago. Ain't ain't like Chicago is real basketball. This isn't like Uh he was playing in the middle of nowhere since Chicago, Illinois a hot bear for basketball. You're talking Isaiah Thomas, Antoine Walker, Uh, Anthony Davis, Uh, Kevin Garnett went to his last high year of high school in Chicago. And the list goes on and on and on Shannon Brown.

I mean the list and you're just talking great hoopers like Sharon Collins was incredible, Jacob pulland incredible. Like when you're talking hoopers, Chicago has hoopers. This man was outing thirty eight points a game just two years before that, and he's in the second division in Ukraine. The mental toughness that you have to have to go through that to get through that too, then get here and then

get all the way where he is. Over the years, I've continued to gain more and more respect for Pat Bath, and after this interview, I have even more respect just his grind, his hustle, and I tell you what with what he brings to the team, and what the energy that he brings and how him and rust energy is going to match up and with Brian and a D. Like I said before, I'm not counting the Lakers out. You'd be crazy if you count them out. But man, thanks to Pat Bath for giving us that goal that

he just gave us. I hope everyone enjoyed it. Listen to it, Listen to it again, and listen to it again. Take it to you. Take it. See your job. If you're in leadership position at your job, let's sign up, give an assignment to those that you're that you're leading and that has to listen to that because it was absolutely amazing and you can't get that many places, but you can't get it here on The Draymond Green Show thanks to Pat Bad has to wrap on this episode. Talk to you all later. Peace,