The volume. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to The Draymond Green Show. We are live on Amazon App, but as always, you can find all of our episodes wherever you get your podcasts at. Also, you know, the videos will be on the Volumes YouTube channel, so you can always check it out there if you don't get it here on app. But we are live and I hope you tapped in. The Nuggets just completed the sweep versus the Los Angeles Lakers.
On the Lakers floor headed to the NBA Finals for the first time in NBA history, and on the other side, we gotta sweep. Happening. What's going on? And it's happening to Miami Heat are up three to zero on the Boston Celtics. Now something that I found very, very very interesting. It's like, I think this is the third time in four years the Miami Heat and the Celtics are playing against each other, and that's really been back and forth. So there's something to think about with that series. But
we'll get back to that. If you had either one of these teams winning the series, which some people definitely had Denver winning this series, I don't think anyone had Miami winning the series and saying that if you did, there's no way you had it this way, Like even the smartest of the smartest didn't have it this way. Like there's just no way you had it this way. The Lakers getting swept in Miami, sweeping Boston, like you just didn't. It didn't follow the script. How great have
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We're talking scripts. That definitely wasn't the script. So for all the script lovers out there, burn the script has been burned, like it definitely didn't follow the script. No, but seriously, I mean, I'm shocked, like I didn't. I definitely thought that there was a chance that the Nuggets could win the series, Like they're the number one, number one see all year, so you thought there was a chance. But I didn't think that they would sweep the Lakers.
I'll tell you what, though, I knew, I mean obviously down three oh, but even before three oh two oh, I knew it was some trouble brewing. When I start seeing tweets like Mobamba will be back, like Mobama will be clear soon, like what like Listen, Mobama is a good basketball player, take nothing away from Obamba, but Mobamba has missed like the last four or five weeks at least,
and Mobamba has never played in the playoff game. Unless I'm just crazy, I don't think Mobima has come near the playoffs, and so like to think that Mobama was going to come back and be the savor. When I saw people's tweeting like Mobama expected that Mobama going to be available, I'm sitting there looking like no way this result, Like this is what this has come down to? Mobamba coming back. I had zero playoff experience. He's about to come back in the NBA Conference Finals and have an impact.
Come on now. Who did have an impact was Trisian Thompson. Trician Thompson came in. He gave complete energy. When I saw the Trician Thompson iceo with a minute of forty seconds to go in the third quarter, it was like WHOA. I got a lot of love for double T. Draymond Green Shaw alumnus NBA champion, works his ass off. Always have got nothing but love and respect for double T. But when I saw the ice saw but a minute forty to go, and I'm like, yo, come on, like now.
From there, Double T went on to do what he does. You know, he rebounded, He made energy plays and once off drop off defended uh. The one possession really stuck out to me where he stopped it and then got back and forced the He forced the air bar from Joker.
He had another play where Bron ended up getting a foul on Jeff Green on the offense, Jeff Green was office and rebounding where he played great defense, like he brought great energy to the floor, and Tristan Thompson is like like there's like he's a part of the much bigger problem in the NBA, which is like you just watched Triston Thompson for all the five six minutes maybe eight to nine minutes in this game, and like, you can't tell me that guy is not a serviceable NBA
player on twenty other team teams in the NBA, And yeah, he spent the entire year not on a team when you got teams struggling with leadership, struggling with veteran presence, struggling with people with winners' mentalities, and like you had that guy sitting in the entire year. That is actually a huge problem in the NBA. That's why we see a lot of the things we see as far as
like off court issues because there's no veterans. There's no veterans showing these dudes how to move, showing them the way. So you think you're just gonna go young, and you think that's just gonna work. Like that shit don't work, and so Trician is a part of a much larger issue in the NBA. Like we're like, come on and like let's after this season. Freehill starts July first. No one will be calling Trician Thompson's phone, but you will
be employing these bombs. It goes back to the conversation that Tomorrow PG was having on pg's podcast maybe this week or last week, when they were discussing bronze tweet, and I agree, like there's so many dudes in the NBA that don't know how to hoop, that suck, that don't love the game of basketball, all of that, and like then you got like Attrician Thompson who's serviceable. You know what you're gonna get, Gonna rebound on both ends, gonna defend on the screen, gonna die, That's what you
get it. There's teams that can use that, and then also you tackle on the veteran presence that teams that need that. So that was my thoughts on that. Something that happened when when Triscian got the n one, like no one Triscian was hyped, like nobody else on the Lakers was hyped, and like that's not some issue where it's like, yo, they don't bang with Trician, like let's not be messy. That was more of like they didn't believe anymore, Like you could see they didn't. They didn't believe,
Like the spirit wasn't there. Uh, Bron came out man forty I think eleven or ten boards non assists and thirty one in the first half, and he was gassed. He left it all out there in the first half, had nothing in the third quarter, and in turn that was his point, Like they were fifteen. Right, Remember we discussed they need a heavy dose of Bron pick and roll, Lebron on the ball of Bron making everything happen. But let's face it, the reality is this guy's thirty eight
years old in his twentieth NBA season. How much of that can he really give you? So then you need Anthony Davis to take the game over, right, Like that's like because Bron can only give you so much of that at thirty eight and like ad didn't ad to me, look gas, Bron looked gassed. That team has been on a playoff run for three months since the trade deadline. They've been on a playoff run like chasing the playoffs,
trying to get there, climbing up hill. It was very similar to us, like I think back to like January where we're like, yo, we can really make a push for the playoffs right now, and like every the whole way from then, it's like playoffs like a let down this game because we could have put ourselves in this position, let down that game, and like so that team looked gasted, they looked exhausted, They looked like they didn't believe anymore.
But they looked absolutely exhausted. Bron like I said, had the incredible first half and it was just nothing else there. I thought Shrewd did a great job in the second quarter of once he picked up that file of continuing to defend and not picking up another file. That was a huge reason why they had the fifteen point lead.
Shrewder was doing a really good job defensively. And no, he wasn't going to lock your maum Murray down, like you're not locking guys down, by the way, for all of y'all out there, that was like, oh man, the Lakers lost and Draymond won't to do a podcast like I play for the Golden State Warriors. Some of you people are so pathetic and like the beliefs you allow
yourself to believe. And I can absolutely understand while life don't be so great because the beliefs that you allow, like to enter your mind about someone else really is a reflection of what you believe and think of yourself and like how you operate and things. So I thought that was a very interesting thing that people were like, oh man, they lost and like Draymond don't want to talk. He's hurt, Like what, But actually I'm on vacation and having a margarita, So cheers to all of you. Margarita
made with Lobo Tequila. Absolutely incredible. But like I said, anyway, toast to all of you that that was your whatever. However, a lot of people better be lucky. I took the weekend off. It was actually my first weekend to have an off, like first weekend having like completely off since September, like no work, like I know you all know, like I do like a basketball like that's my day job, but like podcasting, this is a job too, and so like I have not had a weekend off since September.
So we took this weekend off and Jackson kind of forced me to take the weekend off, which I was kind of pissed off about, but I let it ride, So y'all can blame this on Jackson, who probably didn't want me talking because he knew I had some things to say about them Boston Celtics, and boy, we're still gonna get to that. But anyway, back to the Laker game.
Down the stretch, I was shocked that the Denver Nuggets didn't go back to that Jamal Murray Joker pick and roll that they diced the Lakers up with and at the end of Game three, Uh, they didn't really go to that. They went to more of a set where uh Murray was popping up top off. He was setting like a a U c l A screen for those
of you who don't know. U c l A was famous for setting the screen up the lane like, so the guy goes up the lane line, he sets a backscreen for the guy to come off on the lane line. And so they were setting that and Joker was going
to the post. Jeff Green was on the wing and or Aaron Gordon was on the wing and uh Jamal was popping up top and that's the play they went to down the stretch that caused all kind of trouble for the Lakers, and when the Lakers needed most a stop, a D had a very tough time with Joker this entire series, and when they needed to stop the most he had ad iceholder. He score, but he had a very, very,
very tough time with Joker this series. And I spoke about that at the big get into this series, just talking about how moving Ad away from the rim Joker would be able to cause a D some issues, and when he did, he definitely cost eighty some issues. I thought Ad came alive later in the games, a couple of big blocks, a couple of big office rebounds, drop off shots, floaters, dunks, getting to the free throw line.
I thought he really gave a push, a great push there towards the end, but a little too late, because if he had that same force as Bron was rolling,
they could have really extended that lead. They were up at fifteen a halftime, got outscored by twenty one points in the third quarter, and a bulk of that was just Bron off the ball and watching everybody else work, because again, to do that for forty eight minutes, it's hard for someone of average agent NBA is definitely hard for someone at thirty eight and so at the time they needed that the most. When the game started getting away, they just there was nowhere to pull from.
So when something like that happens, obviously they need run on the floor, but they but Bron would have been better off getting like a minute rest here, two minutes rest there. What's the calculus as a coach and you're obviously not a coach, but what do you if you're going into this game thinking about can you get Braun some rest here and there? Like is he is he that much more effective with the rest? Is it worth
it to get in the rest? Or is it worth it to be primed to be a little bit more tired, but at least on the floor doing his sort of micro managing of the game.
So so what so what you end up going up against is like you also have players who are competitive as shit and like Bron may be telling you I'm not coming out of the game, and what you're gonna do? You're gonna sit them? Like that could create some like bumping of heads and if Lebron James Sam's standing in the game, like you gotta leave him in the game. Now personally, a couple of minutes of rest may help, but it can go all the way wrong as well.
And once you see a star go going wrong, you can't then say once they on the run, well, actually we're going to take Brian out now because he looks like he needs a little rest. But they're starting to run now. The only chance we have to stop that run is Bron eventually taking the game back over. And like I said, there was just nothing there to draw from.
I think another issue that they had is Aaron Gordon was active as hell, so whereas Bron was sometimes Aaron Gordon, Garden, Joker Garden, Michael Porter Junior at times, Garden, Jamaal Murray at times. Aaron Gordon had a huge game after having some terrible games this series, A very tough game, a few terrible, a few tough games for him. The biggest game, he stepped up, like the close out game, that's the
hardest game to win, and he stepped up. He hit three threes where they're playing off of them, total disrespect, and he knocked three of them down down the stretch. He puts so much pressure on their defense with his dives to the rim. Because you had to have ad and bron in the action with Jamal and Joker, and then on the backside you got Schroeder, you got Reeves. I think you had Rui at one point, but my point is you didn't have your size on the backside.
So then on the backside, Aaron Gordon's dive in to the paint and he's ended up. Like one time he started diving to the paint, shrewder kind of came off his body because he knew he was dead, so he was anticipating the switch. But it's one thing if that's Brian or a d he's switching with his Austin Reeves.
So Austin Reeves switching there against Aaron Gordon, he's dead, and so that really hurt them, and his pressure on the rim put a lot of pressure on their defense because there are two guys that can detect the round were in the action, so there's no backside help and Aaron Gordon took total advantage of that. I had a very big game and those guys were able to put
the Lakers away. When I do these, I have this rundown for all of you who's checking this amb out, And Jackson sometimes has these questions on here and one of the questions that Jackson has on here is what do the Lakers do now? It's interesting because you have Ruie's a free agent. You got Austin Reeves is a free agent. I know for Sureta and Austin Reeves is restricted. I Thinkrui may be restricted to both restricted. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he is as well. And so you got that,
you got Dlo who's a free agent. Obviously short is a free agent because he didn't he was signed a one year deal. And as I said some episodes ago, maybe during at the end of our series, like Dennis Schroeder going to deserve to get some money, and it'll be interesting to see, like if people would just follow that narrative of when he didn't take the contract with it, because once you end up on a minimum, it's hard to get off, like in this league, it's hard to
get off a minimum once you're on that. And the reality is he outplayed it severely, like dramatically outplayed it, but it's hard to get off. So another team just like, oh we can, we can wait around and probably get him on a minimum, and you're waiting on one team to jump. Quite frankly, I think he's very good for the Lakers, and Darvin Ham really really really trusts him, really trust him, and so, as you can see by the start tonight, so they got some decisions to make.
Where do they go from here? I think they're definitely being bringing Ruie back unless he gets some crazy off sheet that makes it tough to match. I think they'll bring Austin Reeves back, but I think they'll want to low ball Austin Reeves. And I think if he gets a crazy offer sheet, like can you then bring him back? If you don't bring those guys back, how much cast space does it open for you? And does it allow you to go out and get someone ie Kyrie irvinsitting
on the sidelines again, can you get Kyrie? If so, at what number, at what amount of years? Because those are some of the issues that Kyrie's going to be up against. As we all know, Kyrie is super Max player. Kyrie's incredible. But you know, the things have been to things, and I'm sure people will answer those questions, ask those questions when deciding on a deal. So it'll be interesting to see what they do. I think I know they'd
love to have both of those guys back. But then if it's out the cost of like oh we can get Kyrie Irving and not then you got to fill out the ross are still you still got Vendo coming back obviously a D and Brown. So we'll see. It's interesting for them as it is interesting for a lot of teams. Uh, it's gonna be a very I think every time we say we're going to see a summer of a bunch of movement in the NBA, like no one moves. But I think this is gonna be like
a crazy active summer. Like it's just so many decisions to be made, and with these like salary cap spikes coming up and like you know, new TV deals and super max is being reached, I can see a lot of movement this summer. I would not be shocked. I would be shocked if it's not a lot of movement, But like I said, it always happens that way anyway.
I think it's more exciting with the movement for the for the summer because there's gonna be a lot of movement and it's gonna be a lot of the big teams worst decisions to make. Lakers have a lot of decisions to make, Celtics seem like now they have some decisions to make. Two of those four teams are in the conference finals. It's not just like, oh, who are the big free that's going to sign to you on
these medium tier teams. Not to cast any dispersions, but it's like the big players in the NBA had huge decisions.
To make, well for sure, and then you got teams like a Dallas that have like superstar talent on their team that maybe weren't as good of a team or whatnot, but I got superstar talent and always feel like you're one right piece away when you got superstars. And so there's a lot of decisions to be made and I think because of that there will be a lot of movement and it'll get interesting. We'll see what happens. But anyway, that is it for the Lakers on their season. And yeah,
man Denver punished them. Boys, God get your brooms out. That's a wrap on that one. Now let's get into this heat Celtics thing, because as you all know, I'm always watching the game within the game, Like the game is cool, like and it's fun and it is what it is, But the game within the game, like that's the fun part. And there has been some games within the game. In this Boston Miami Series number one, Grant Williams,
Grant Williams started talking crazy to Jimmy Butler. Grant Williams didn't got destroyed by Jimmy Butler, not only in game two where he starts talking crazy, but then Jimmy Butler is at you every time you end up on him, and it's not ending well for Grant. And you know, you know when you know it's not going well for something. After the game, Grant started talking about man, my mom
and my dad. He taught me to do this and and I can't go back home with my mom and I'm like my man started talking about the Morrows and values that he grew up on. Like, bro, you just got dropped off by Jimmy Butler, like we didn't question how you was raised, my dog. And when I saw that, I said, WHOA, this man is talking about what his parents taught him like that that like wow, And I respected the way he stood up right like they were losing the league. Energy was gone, like he hit the
tray and started talking crazy. As much as we all want to blame grand Williams, that ain't Grant Williams fault like Grant Williams supposed to do that, like your dog's gotta come, like, hey, feed off that, let's go. So as much as we want to blame grand Williams, like yeah, bro, you're an NBA player, like you was game and you be talking big shit Grant, so like when you do that, yeah, you do gotta stand on that. And of course you're
gonna hear it like ain't no passes. But but you didn't need JT and jbter like come on now, like turn it into gear and cover your man. And when I saw JB after the game, they asked, say, be about Grant and poking the bear or whatnot? And he said, next question to me, I'm like, oh they done? Then I think it would be a thirty point blowout in game three. No, of course not like but I'm like, yo, they done, he said, next question, they done? Like even if and like again, Grant Williams his own man. You
gotta stand on your own two feet. But in JB situation, even if, like you still ride with your man, be like, hey, you start talking Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy played well like it is what it is. We gotta we gotta do what we gotta do to win. You can't next question at JB because that was the mentality that their team took on in game three, like next question, next game, next play, this is it, Like that's a mentality, and so you can't necessarily do that. And again not that it's JB
thought that Grants are getting dropped off. Grant, that's on you. You you gotta cover for yourself. You start talking, but you could tell that there was more there once that happened, and I'm sure Miami he saw that, and it looked like they feasted on it. Duncan Robinson made every play for like a four minute stretch. Assist drive, kick out, assists, dry live to bam, Tracy lay up, another lay up. He made every play for like a three four minute stretch.
And it's going to get interesting because you know, people was talking about Duncan Robinson contracting, like people watching this series like they're gonna move on Duncan Robinson, Like Duncan Robinson just created value for himself again, So kudos to Duncan Robinson man standing in the fight and playing a
great game with twenty two points. Gay vincent I played against gay Vincent is playing like the gay Vincent that played against us at Team USA when he was playing with Nigeria and they beat us in the exhibition game and they act like they want to go medal. Mike Brown was coaching them, and we were all out of shape, trying to get in shape. We had like two days
of practicing. Then we scrimmage against them. Anyway, them boys was balling for Team Nigeria and they beat us and gave Vincent the way gay Vincent was playing in Team Nigeria. That's how gay Vincent is playing for the Miami Heat, and he is playing well, creating a bunch of value for himself. I am sick of the uh the undrafted players, like, stop disrespecting them dudes. Man. They tie their shoes up
like everybody else. They get paid to play this game like everyone else, whether you was drafted one or sixty or undrafted. Once you get between the lines, what are you doing between these lines? And we've seen number one picks be bus, We've seen number two picks be bus, We've seen number thirty picks be bus. So right, stop with the whole undrafted thing. Man. I'm sure those guys
get tired of here now because I get tired of hearing. Like, all right, they were undrafted, like great, I understand, like it's probably like the underdog story, right, like I get it, but like they were the A seed and they almost lost both playing games. That is enough underdog story in itself. They getting it out the mud and you gotta get them.
God's credit, man, Jimmy Butler, damn out of byu. They doing it now back to the games within the game, Jimmy Butler with the timeout celebration and Al Horford was hot, and I thought that was hilarious because our Horford. I'll never forget Al Horford did my flex on me when he got an an one when they came back in game one, and what did I do? I polightly gave it back in game two. But like guys don't like when you talk when you dish back what they give,
you know what I'm saying. So our Horford like be sneakily talking shit and like mocking people in celebrations and Jimmy hitting with the time out joint and he was ready to fight, That's what it looked like he was ready to do. He started walking towards Jimmy. Oh, I thought that was hilarious. That was hilarious because again, you can't get mad when you dished it first in Game one prematurely and then somebody dish it back and it ain't going so well and you get mad. Can't do that.
So I thought that was funny. I saw a clip today and I don't know if it was real. There's so many AI generated things today you can never be so sure. But I saw a clip where they said market They said it was Marcus Smart saying to Jimmy, stop talking. We beat y'all last year, We beat y'all last year, stop you talking the whole game or something like that. And again, I don't know if that was AI generated because I can't see Marcus smart face, Like I don't know if Marcus Smart is really saying that
or not. But if it's not AI generated, like like we all talk about the past, like, don't get me wrong, like I'll hit somebody with afford, like Clay hits you with afford and the heartbeat, so we all gonna like talk about the past. But I don't know if you could say, man, you need to stop talking, like you almost actioned for a way out, no, Marcus, like dive
in that, because that's what you're being. So it ain't gonna stop talking, though I'm gonna stop you from talking some type of way, I can't ask you to stop talking. So I don't know, man, I think these little games within the game for me have been fun to watch.
And the Celtics quit last night. They definitely quit, And I'm gonna be quite frank with you, I don't expect much more tomorrow, Like they just ain't got it, Like they ain't got it, like the fight is gone, and so I don't really expect much more tomorrow and like watch they'll win the game and be like we saw the said that turn. I don't expect much more tomorrow.
They quit, Miami went. It took their heart. And now remember earlier in the show, I was saying, like the last three or four years or something like Miami lost to the Celtics last year, was supposed to win like seeding from a seating perspective, and they lost, and so it had me thinking more of like what are the real gaps in between teams in the league, because that's a team who Miami, if I'm not mistaken, was number
one seed last year and they lost to the Boston Celtics. Jackson, what did they lose in that series?
They lost in seven because Jimmy took that three, the transition three at the end.
Oh, yes, Jimmy missed the shot, right, Jimmy missed the shot. Yeah, And so like you think about that, right, Like they lost in seven, Jimmy had a three to win it, and like they right back here and they're dominating them. Like there's not a huge gap in between those two teams. It's really not.
And the other time they played in the playoffs was in the bubble and that was also very very competitive until the heat sort of took o breath.
Yet and Bam got that exactly. Yeah, So like there's not some huge gap in these teams. You get caught up in the regular season record, but these teams been battling on for years. There's just some huge gaps. So it made me just like take a step back and like question or like not question, but just dissect like the parody in the NBA, and the crazy thing is that the new CBA is going to be even more.
So you all wanted parody. I know some of you all are going to be upset that it's a Denver Miami Heat final because all the people that you used to see in there isn't there, and the people that you may want to see ain't there. But I'm gonna enjoy that final because I think it's going to be a good one. But yeah, Boston done before we get out here. Carmelo Anthony announced his retirement today, and I am number one. I want to say congratulations on the job.
Well done, career, well done, incredible athlete, incredible basketball player, and even but but an even incredible more incredible man. You know what, what Mellow came into this league as Braids Baggy close, huge entourage, and what he grew into
is admirable. Just the leader that he blossomed into. I respect got a lot of love for I watched Melo since I was eleven years old playing at Oak Hill and then on to Syracuse and and then on to the Denver Nuggets, and I was lucky enough and blessed and honored to have an opportunity to compete with him in the Olympics and win a gold medal. Uh. One of the greatest USA basketball players ever and obviously, you know, one of the top talents in the NBA, NBA history,
one of the greatest scores in NBA history. I wanted, like I said, number one, I want to say congratulations, but number two, thank you for me having an opportunity to play with Carmelo Anthony and win a gold medal with Carmelo Anthony, who I watched growing up. Like that's a surreal moment for me, one that I never thought I experienced in a way that you embraced me. I can't thank you enough what you brought to the game special, one of the special talents that we've ever been able
to witness. And job well done. I saw to add to your son or the message to your son. I won't call it the acts. That's real to Cayenne and man, that's incredible, Like that's what we do it for. Like you want to talk legacy, there's my legacy, Like that's me. That's like, that's my seed. Like, so you want to talk legacy, there's it. There it is. And I thought that was so special, man, so special. But let me tell you, because you can't say at yourself, your legacy
is one of the best to ever do it. That's what the legacy is. You know, they'll try to say championship this, and as a guy who's won championships, trust me, I'm big into that. But championship ultimately don't define whether you were great or not. Carmelo Anthony was great, Carmelo Anthony, superstar, Carmelo Anthony, first ballot Hall of Famer. So you won't talk about the legacy. You will say, harre's my legacy,
it's my son. But I'm gonna tell you your legacy is one of the baddest dudes to ever lace them up, come through this league, put that ball in the basket like no other. One of the toughest players I ever had to guard. I'll never forget playing the New York Knicks. And David Lee was suspended a little more minutes and Carmelo got the ball on like the mid post cond of the block, like he faced up Boom, two dribbles
into me. Boom Boom missed the shot. He's like, that's a fucking file to the rough rough and called the file. We got the rebound, We went down. He came back the next play, went to the same exact spot, did the same exact move. Boom Boom made sure he got the file. I'm like, man, what is this? Like, come on, man, Like this dude just did the same exact move to me,
like to make sure he gets the file call. Like don't get me wrong, like I follloed him a little bit, like don't trip, but he was gonna make it a point like And what I took from that is like,
like I'm not just gonna miss this shot. You think I'm gonna just miss that shot without getting filed like and that taught me something about confidence in the NBA, Like that moment right there, Like that was early in my career, and it taught me something about like being great and confidence and uh man, the opportunity to compete against Carmelo Anthony, Like I said to gud grew up watching honor brother. Job, well done, congratulations and the legacy is one of the greatest to ever do it. They
can't take that away from it. That's a rap on this episode of The Draymond Green Show. Until next time, Peace,