The volume. Hi, I'm slow and I know basketball. Today's guest is not only an NBA champion, but some may argue he started the athlete podcast movement. His journey from UCLA to playing in the NBA to being a dad is a story you won't want to miss.
Today's guest on Sloan Nose is Matt Barnes.
Okay, Matt, so, I'm sixteen years old, and I know maybe a long time ago for you to think about this, but what were you like at sixteen?
Who were you like? What were you like as a person?
I think before I tell you how I was at sixteen, I want to congratulate you. Thanks the fact that you are sixteen and you're doing what you're doing. I know you signed over with Draymond Falling right, and I'm just really happy for you. I love it. I think I was telling my fiancees coming over to doing and kind of explaining what she's Alway's like, that's so dope. She's going to open the door for all these young women to start. So kudos to you.
Thank you so much.
I'm sixteen year old Matt Barnes. Can I cuss on here?
Of course, Dad may not like it, but it's okay.
Sixteen year old Matt Barnes, I was playing football, baseball, basketball, track in high school, kind of finding myself top athlete. Yeah, I guess I kind of in the cool crowd, if you want to say it. I went to a predominantly white high school. It was about ninety eight percent white, so you know, me and my sister were half and one of our cousins was full. So it's probably about ten black kids in the whole school. But it's what I knew. That's where I grew up, you know, Sacramento, California.
So sixteen year old me was just really honed in on playing whatever sport the season was when I was growing up, Like you didn't train like you play pickup ball or whatever it may be, but no one really trained now like now kids are training from you know, young ages. But it was just just kind of an all around athlete. Loved hanging out with my friends and just kind of living like care free.
And I watched a video where you said that you were a football player first. Yes, where when did that change in your mind? Like I actually know I want to go to the NBA.
I just always knew I wanted to play both. I think football was my my my better sport. I was all American football and basketball my senior year. But football just came naturally, you know. I came from a family of football players, but just kept getting taller for some reason. Like my dad's five ten and my mom was five six, five seven maybe, so my height and came out of nowhere.
So I was always I mean I used to play tackle football on the streets, as crazy as that sound growing up, and then got to high school, was playing everything and just really excelled in both of those. But then when I you know, when I was thinking about colleges, I got recruited to go play football and basketball, but I was just thinking longevity. There was no one really six or eight at the time that was playing football, and I just thought I'd have a lot, you know,
a lot longer career in playing basketball. But basketball I really had to work at.
Yeah.
And on the topic of college, how did you pick UCLA being from Sacramento, Like that's sort.
Of crazy, do you know? It was just I fell in love with UCLA. I think I went there at my freshman year. I remember I was playing a little AU tournament. We went to La and we visited UCLA and we walked the campus and I saw the palm trees and the pretty girls, and then we went to the Santa Monica or excuse me, Venice Beach and I saw the beach and I'm just like, such a big change from Sacramento. Sacrament was a small farm town predominantly just a lot of nature, green rivers, all that kind
of stuff. So coming out here was just really dope. And it you know, it's always it's obviously Hollywood. So oddly enough, I got recruited everywhere. I didn't take any trips. I committed to UCLA when I was sixteen and didn't come for my visit until like like three months before I graduated high school because I was always in season, so I never really got a chance to come down and kind of take my trip. But yeah, I kind of like committed without really taking or having a tour
with the campus. I just knew I want to go to CLA.
So Matt has two twin sons, Isaiah and Carter. Yeah, and they're fifteen or sixteen.
Just turn fifteen, Just turn fifteen.
Okay, So what differences have you seen from when you played AAU and then the you game now that your boys playing the game.
Now, I say, there's all these y very watered down. I think back when I was grown up, AU was for the best kids, and if you weren't one of those top tier kids, you would just kind of play in your local rec league. Now it's if you know, one kid doesn't like what's going on, his dad can build a new team, or there's always new teams popping ups, and there's like tears. Now it's like bronze, Platinam, gold, silver,
there's so many different levels. So to me, it's just more about making money now for these these coaches and you know that the people that turned on the events and actual having a lot of talent. So even with that said, I mean I still love I still love it. I enjoy coaching my boys in it, and you know, seeing them kind of play against all the other competition around the country.
Yeah, And I feel like in AU now there's so much NBA player involvement, So the NBA players have their own teams, et cetera. When was your first interaction or when did you like create your first relationship with an NBA player.
Oh man, my first ever NBA player I met was Jalen or Juwan Howard. I went to a Kings game when I was like fifteen in Sacramento and a ton of people, you know, trying to get his autographed. And I was a big old fifteen year old goofy kid, and he, you know, he made it way over to me and shook my hand and signed my thing. You know, I always remember that. So that was my first interaction, but i'd say make friends. First NBA guy it was
probably Chris Webber. Again, this is back guy, Yeah, this is back early two thousands when the Kings and the Warriors, Kings and Lakers are going at it. Kobe and Shack, we're Seaweb and Mike Bibby and those guys. So I was from Sack. Loved the Lakers originally, but then the Kings grew on me. Web was kind of my big homie. I go home and work out within the summertime. So he was probably like the first NBA guy that kind of put his arm around me. You know, I still
to this day home like my big brother. I love that. Got it death.
Okay, So we were just talking about the Kings and how they're your hometown team, but you played for nine different teams.
You want to chip with the Warriors.
You're a put of Lob City in LA and you played obviously if your hometown team of Sacramento. Which organization do you feel the most connected tips and why?
I would probably say Golden Date in the in the Clippers, I feel like, you know, my first stint with Golden State the first time around that we believe team, we made NBA history. We knocked out the first number one seed in the seven game series, Dirk Nowitzki. I think they were like won sixty five games. He was MVP, and we knocked him out in the first round. So
that was really historic. And even when I went back in seventeen and got a chance to play with Katie's staph dre Clay, the reporters, even the player like everyone like, what was that Lob City team? Like like it's like kind of like urban legend out there at this point. So that was a Dobe team. And then I really took a lot of pride in playing in that Lob City team because I feel like, we know, we won
the first Pacific Division championship ever for the Clippers. We kind of put them back on the map at that time. We were kicking the Lakers, but like beat the Lakers by the most points in the series in the rivalry's history, and it really felt like we had a chance to win a championship with that team, but we just had too many egos, our stars didn't get along, and I feel like it was really a wasted opportunity.
Would you say, now that you're done playing, you're a fan of a team or not.
I'm fans of players and then yeah, I still I hold a special place to my heart. You know, I was working for the Kings for a while, so I really, you know, enjoy them and Deer and Fox, uh Clip, really all the California teams. I think it's easier to say, oh, I cheer for all the California teams, and then you know particular players like these young players. I like, you think the Clippers win the tip. I feel like I said at the beginning of season that they can stay healthy.
This is before James came and buy in, so if I feel like if they're one of the deepest teams in the league along with Boston. So I picked the Clippers at the very beginning of the season to win it.
Okay, Okay, what was your eye made it moment?
Man, Mad That's a good question, Sloan. I think my I made a moment. Wasn't for a while? Like I bounced around on maybe four teams my first three or four years. Yeah, could I really get a ton of opportunity to play? I probably say my I might made it moment was that we believe season two thousand and seven. I don't think you were born, you were You're born.
Oh yeah, so that's thousand and seven. I feel like it was really the first time I got an opportunity to play, and we made the playoffs and I really made a name for myself. I got my first little pay day after that serious season. So that was when I said tell you about I think I got drafted and you know two didn't make it playing the gd
for a little bit. So my first full season was three four, So you know, I felt like I was really almost all my way out and you know, luckily that Golden State thing worked and you know the rest was kind of history.
Yeah.
What advice do you have for guys like in the gleue right now that may want to give up or like I saw somewhere that you were saying that if the words hadn't signed you, you were just going to go travel in NFL, Like, what do you what do you say to people that maybe are feeling that way?
I would tell anyone who who's in this journey, in this grind first and foremost, you know you got to you got to be in love with this. You know you can't love it. You know you got to be in love with it because there's beauty in the journey, in the grind, and sometimes that grind is tough and the journey is ugly. But I feel like at the same time, I think what I would tell them is I'm understanding what their game is and what they're looking for.
I think where a lot of people make mistakes on all levels is everyone wants to score a lot of points because obviously that's the most talked about and decorated. But I remember Doc Rivers told me, you know, be a star in your role, and I feel like I already knew kind of what I was and where I was yet during my career what I'd liked to score more points, absolutely, but it just I played on teams with Kobe and Chris Paul and Staph and care like if my role wasn't to score a bunch of points.
My role was to play defense, to be tough, rebound, do the dirty work. So I feel like a lot of times kids and even guys in the G League feel like a man, I need to drop thirty so I can get called up. And it's not that because most of the times we're getting called up from the G League, you're coming to fill a role players role, so they got their star players or whoever it is. So you're coming in to play tough defense, you're coming into rebound, You're coming in to be some kind of
glue part, you know. And that's what I'm saying. You have to really understand who your game is and how it fits in neat situation. But I would, yeah, I would say, you know, focus on being more all around and understanding there's little things you can do to make a jump to a big team, because again, they're not necessarily looking for the leading scorer of the G League, because if you were, if that guy was that good, he would already be in the NBA. They're looking for
kind of role players. And that's not to say like sometimes G League you do find a Chris Middleton who is an all star who can score, but most of the time guys coming up from the GD are going to be role players.
Yeah, And sort of on that topic of being patient and knowing what position maybe is right for you, I know, you played all four years in colleges, so obviously not a traditional power school.
For an NBA player.
On the topic, I guess of advice, what advice would you give to guys in their fourth year, Like do you think they can make it?
It's different now because back when I was playing four years, I was the norm. Yeah, like rarely guys he changed so much. Rarely were that. I mean, there was the high school guys, and then they kind of outlawed the guys going straight from high school, and then you would stay two, three or three four. Some guys would leave after two, but most of the time you're staying three or four. So it was a normal to get drafted as a senior when I was coming out of the
NBA in the early two thousands. Now it's kind of looked down upon, you know what I mean, Like if you're not in the league by your first or second year out of college, they're like, you know what I mean. So it's tough obviously, the game has changed. So I mean, that's why you got to put the work in, man, because like I said, if you are a senior or even a fifth year, sometimes it works and rare like
Kimiakas ucl Brun who went for three years. Was he all fourth Yeah, I think I think he went for Yeah. There's a handful of guys in four years now and I think, what's crazy. Now? Coaches loved that kind of thing, but like, I don't think organizations. Organizations want young potential, so like, but coaches love guys that had four years. I mean even Spolster said, I love that he came in ready. He played four years in college and he knew what to expect, you know. I mean he's not
bothered by this. But you know, the NBA now drops off potential like eighteen nineteen twenty. You gotta be the most of the time, it's young guys.
I remember when the Warriors drafted James Wiseman's second he was nineteen and because of COVID, he's like only played two college games, I think, and I kept just thinking, like why doesn't he just play another year in college? Like Memphis had things going for them, like she needed to just wait and then look where that got him waiting like no hate, Like I feel like things could have been different he would have taken just like just been patient.
Well you got to think, I mean, it's such a business, but you know every year there's only sixty spots. Yeah, but over two hundred and fifty three hundred kids into the draft every year, So there's a lot of people getting bad advice or bad like thinking they're better than they are, or their teams telling them the wrong stuff. So there's it's it's it's such a crapshoot nowt to even get in the league. It's always been tough, but I feel like now it's even harder because the game
has grown more and they're taking more foreign players. But it's it's it's you got a better chance of getting struck by lightning than me and draft.
Yeah, so it's crazy. With your sons, what was your favorite moment from their freshman season at Crespy.
I think just getting their feet wet, you know, getting punched in the face and not being afraid of the moment. You know, I'm really proud of them, to be honest with you, you know, to be able to step up and play varsity as freshmen and be impactful. And the one thing I told them going in this season is similar to what I've been preaching, Like as a freshman, you're going to be a role player. You know, that's Joe's team, that's Peyton's team. Your job is to go in there
and help them and make it easier. You know, it'll be your show come junior year. You know what I mean. But right now, these next you know, these first two years is you know, you got to do the dirty work and make your teammates fall in love with you. Do hustle, take charges, dive, be energetic, have good energy around the team, and just be you know, just be dope, dude tonight. I feel like, you know, to be honest with that, I feel I feel like that's what they did.
And like I said, they played well in big moments, hit shots and big moments. You know, both started periodically throughout the season. So my whole thing with the twins has kind of been like a building process like brick by brick. You know, I feel like I've been coaching this since they were eight years old, and there's a lot of kids that that that that flame out. You know,
the best eleven year old twelve year old. That was never our plan, and I'm glad like we they just started working out maybe at thirteen, but I wanted to just like, hey, we're going to peak at like sixteen, seventeen eighteen when it's time to go to college. I'm not worried about you being the best ten eleven year old, twelve year old so on and so forth. We just
want to continue to get better. So I feel like we're doing, you know, a step by step of you know, making sure we know the game, you know, think the game, not just play the game, and continuing to just steadily get better.
Yeah, And what advice to them do you have because obviously your path in high school was way different than theirs, you know, growing up with a dad who was in the NBA that obviously you have to carry a lot on your shoulders. And I know, I went to a Crespy game and you watch how the crowd reacts to your kids as opposed to other kids, and like, obviously they have the Barnes last name. What advice do you have to them in that area of like staying calm and being ground.
Well, the one thing I'm huge on is the mental approach of the game. I feel like it's ninety percent of the game and being mentally strong and your mental fortitude is to me the most important thing about an athlete, not just my sons or basketball player, because you know, for for every reason you just said, my kids are going to get either extra love because they're my sons or extra hate because they're my sons. But you know, you've got to stay even keeled, you know. I feel
like sometimes the ref single them out. Obviously the fans will go crazy and boo them, but you know, they've been playing big games in front of like once I started coaching them, like we started going on a national schedule like nine ten years old, so they've been playing in front of crowds and like parents are like boo me, don't like me, so they don't like the team. So
they've been playing in hostile environments for a while. So that's the one thing I'll say, like that the boys are pretty mentally tough, you know for their age.
Yeah, okay, So now we're going to move on to what we call like we don't really have a good name for it, so if you would like to help come up with it, please do.
But it's our positive section.
A lot of what dray One and I talked about sort of where partnership comes from is me bringing like a fresh new perspective. And so much of basketball media is negative, you know, talking about what people did wrong, But I sort of want to talk about what people did right. So for this next segment, I just want to ask you a lot of questions about specific people. So you played with some of the best players of all time. Who is your starting five of your former teammates?
Man, that's a tough call, Okay, point guard? Man my point guard. I played with Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Baron Davis, I played with Steph but I don't really count Steph Curry because only play with over half a season. So I'm going to I'll just keep Steph out because obviously he's incredible. Out of those people I just named, I would go with Chris Paul is my starting point guard. My starting two guard would be Kobe. My starting three would be Pages Stoyakovich for damn stuff either damn either
Chris Weber or Blake Griffin at my power forward. I'll let the fans decide that, and then my center is gonna be shocked. Do you also not count Katie because yeah, like I said, I only play with those guys for a time, and I played for Katie I did. Actually, so crazy part is so I'm my my final season, whatever up be. In my final season, I signed a three year dare that year. My original talks was to
go to go to State. Like, so the whole summer I knew Katie and Andre were talking and Katie, you were talking, and I were talking about, you know this, try to like, you know, try to if I'm gonna go to Golden State, you should try to come. So we're talking to doing that and it kind of fell through. So I ended up going to Sacramento. But that year, so I signed a three year deal to kind of retire my hometown. That year, they end up trading to
Marcus because the trade Inliner. So I'm just like, talk to management like I'm too old to try to rebuild. So we worked out a situation where I get all my money still and I would free. I was free to go somewhere else. And right when that happened, Katie ends up spraining his knee and in the game, where's the Wizards And like maybe three days after I left Sacramento. I was signed by Golden State. So and then the first game Katie came back. First game Katie comes back,
he comes back maybe two week. A week before the playoffs, I sprained my ankle. So Katie and I played together for like ten.
Minutes, like you got all your money and a ring.
So I feel like it was like, yeah, it definitely worked out. Only the only thing that it's kind of crappy about that is that, you know, I grinded my whole career to win, and the finally when I have a great chance, so I get hurt going into the playoffs and I'm not healthy in the playoffs to actually contribute, So that kind of hurt. But it was kind of a perfect storm and winning a ring. Businesses were going well, and then I kind of really missed being a dad.
You know, I wasn't good chance to see the twins as much, so I felt like it was a good time to, you know, see what was next.
Is there someone currently not in the league but who's still hooping, maybe overseas or in the G League do you think deserves another chance in the NBA.
Absolutely, Someone that was on my show this morning, My brother DeMarcus Cousins. I feel like he can definitely still help a team, and I also feel like Dwhite Howard can still help a team. Oh, I forgot about Dwight Howard Dwight. I forgot about Dwight. So I played with older Shack and Prime Dwhite. So I'm gonna go ahead and switch this. I didn't get to play with Laker Dwight. Excuse me, Shack. I got to play with Phoenix Sunshack and he was still awesome and cool. I'm going to switch.
My sinner is going to be Dwight. I played with Prime d White Howeur. People don't know how good Prime Dwight Howeer was. He was absolutely It's crazy that he was snubbed. Top seventy five, Sam Evince Carter were definitely robbed, and I forgot I played with Vince Carter too, and I played with with Alan Iverson too.
I feel like you're maybe getting old.
I am it's not good. Dang. I forgot about Ai too.
Oh you want to team keeping it?
Keeping it okay?
So you have a lot of tattoosh, what is your most meaningful tattoo?
And why man stomach? There's the portrait of my mom, who I lost to cancer in two thousand and seven. But I got this tattoo on my leg recently of the twins and their youngest brother, Ashton. So I got this last summer. So this is probably my favorite. Obviously I got the Kobe down here, the All Star picture where he's hugging her and giving her a kiss. So the Kobe won, the twins, and my little man ash and then my mom on my stomach.
Okay, on the topic of Kobe, I feel like because of the classic flinching situation, people don't know that you and Kobe.
Were so close, you're good friends.
Can you talk a little bit about you and Kobe's relationship and then maybe tell us the story that you've never told us.
So I've met, I got a chance to meet Kobe. I came to UCLA in nineteen ninety eight. He was drafted to the Lakers in ninety six, and you know, it's kind of well documented. He didn't really fit in with the older guys. He was fresh out of high school. Se was on UCLA campbells all the time. So you see Kobe walking around eating where we eat, like chilling, sitting down on campus, working out. He used to come in after you see our practice and work out in
poly Pavilion. So I got a chance to kind of meet him and then play against him in the men's gym. So I definitely wouldn't say there was a friendship there, just you know, meeting and passing and then you know, got a chance to kind of play with them during the summer. You know, fast forward me making the NBA Kobe's Kobe by that time, and it was just always just really a challenge I look forward to. I was
one of those rare clubs. I think I was a football player, like I looked forward to, like physically locking up on defense with the best players, and I always had to guard the best players. So it went from just respecting him being really well and then you know, him and I going against each other and then it culminated in twenty ten with the ball fake and then after that situation, you know, then we lose in the Eastern Conference finals the Celtics. They end up beating the
Celtics in the finals. I wanted to stay with the Magic, it didn't end up working out, so I gult hit up by pat Riley. And this is the summer that bron and Bosh end up going and forming the Heatles. But I'm talking to Pat back and forth. I'm like, shoot up going to go up the freeway to South Beach. This is dope. End up talking to d Wade and Pat's telling me, like, you know, the closing lineup would be d Wade, Mike Miller, You Lebron, and Chris Bosh.
I'm just like, damn, that sounds crazy. Sound crazy. So I'm thinking, I'm just gonna go right up to I was just gonna stand Florida all summer. And then I get a random phone call from a number I don't know, and I normally don't pick up the phone, and I happen to pick up the phone in his coke, but I don't believe it at first. He's like, what up? NB. I'm like, who's this? He's like Kobe. I'm like, yeah, right, Like who is this? He's like, no, it's Kobe. I'm like, oh,
what up? And he's you know, we kind of start talking about it, congratulating about them when in the finals, and you know, he said anyone. We start talking. He's like, so, what are you gonna do next season? I was just like, I'm not talking to Miami. I'm not sure what's up. He's like, he's like, anyone crazy enough to fuck with me? Excuse my language, it's crazy enough to play with me. Do you want to be a Laker? I'm like what, Like who is this? And I'm like, hell yeah, I'm like,
I promise you. Like four days later, I was in LA and I signed to become a Laker. So we went from competitors to nearly fighting, you know. And then as soon as that happened that summer, you know, he's recruiting me to the Lakers. I'm a Laker. I get to move back to Cali and we went from kind of competitors to teammates to brothers. But one cool thing about Cope was right off the rip, he was he loved the twins. So the twins were maybe three years old when we came to LA. Four yeah, three years old,
and I used to bring them everywhere. So they would come in the locker room, and right from the rip, Cob was giving them shoes and Uncle Coe and they would climb on them and wrestle them, and he'd give them jerseys and he would like, from like very early, like there's a picture I posted them when he's holding them and there maybe three like held them, both of them, like he's always been uncle Cobe. So that's like from there, like we really started becoming closer because just the way
he accepted my sons and I always looked out for them. So, you know, fast forward, we played together for a few years. He's retired, so he's at the time he lives on Orange County East coaching Gigi. I retire year after him, and I'm coaching the twins when the twins are about eight years old. I think Gigs eleven at this point.
But what would be crazy was we would, you know, always see each other, you know, twice a month down at the facilities down in oc But he we started once we realized we were both going to be there with times g played with time the twins play so like Cope sometimes I remember one particular time that the
twins played at nine. I think even after basketball, we became closer because I got a chance to you know, I always say, I'm really proud I got a chance to not you know, obviously played with it against the mom, but that mentality, but I got to see the man, the person, the father, the businessman, like the other side of him that he didn't really let too many people in to see and just super cool, great dude, and you know, obviously we all missed them.
We were talking about you and Kobe would eat in the same places. Where'd you eat in Westwood? Like, what's your place there?
Used to play a place in Westwood that I love called Saxon. It's not there no more, but it used to be like like like these fried little chicken things and rice. It was kind of like like like like the stir fire rice. You can get it like a Japanese edes's restaurant. But it was just super it was just way more. I'm not doing it justice by that. And then a place called Fat Souse. Yeah, so I
actually tried to go. It's a funny story. Went there like six eight months ago and just wanted to walk around west But it was like two am when I went, and I got a Fat Souse thing and it's one of the things that had cheese sticks, a little cheese. I was on the toilet. Excuse me, but too much information. But I was just like I thought to myself, like, yeah, I can't do this like I used to do when I was a team I'm in my forties. Now my
buddy is not the same. Yeah, they tore me, uh maybe t M. I forgive me, but it just it just shows like back when you're young. You gotta stum in like a billy. Go you get mine. You gotta be careful.
Have you ever been to Hibachi Poppy?
What's that?
Okay?
It's like Danny Hannah, but it's like just out. It's so far like I would Okay, it's probably will be the same thing. You want to still dry Hubachi pop?
Oh? Yeah, I'm always down for a good chout.
Yeah, okay, you go to Poppy, think about I love Benny Hanna, but like someone's going there's like too much, but like get it to go such a good like late.
Night Bachi pie and it's open late Yeah killer, I'm on it.
Okay, Okay, what would your like cheat meal like after a game you just played?
Well, what do you mean?
Man? Once I was in the NBA, probably be like wing stop. Yeah, I'll be honest. I was one of those guys. And it sounds crazy because when I was playing, like diet wasn't a big deal, you know what I mean, like eating healthy and doing healthy stuff like you I think I played in the early like I played my RIP. The year was almost twenty two, twenty three years ago, you know what I mean, So it was way different.
So I was one of those guys that kind of ate whatever I wanted and it just worked off, worked out really hard, and we get a six pack and everything before every season. But I was never really a healthy eater, to be honest with you, So I kind of treated myself like I enjoy food, you know what I mean? So I wasn't. There would be times maybe when like towards like my last maybe like my twelfth thirteenth, fourteenth year, I would start having a chef and kind
of eating healthy because I was getting older. But outside of that, I kind of what I wanted.
Dwight Howard told me that during his time with the Magic he would have twenty five candy bars.
Today, do you believe that some of these suits are not yet Dwight's whatever? Dwight is different? You know? Also what was a dk Metcalf says he eats nothing but candy, you know what I mean. Some of these guys are just like inane freak athletes.
In your fourteen years and you obviously went to every single arena multiple multiple times and probably like new ones, old ones, et cetera.
Do you ever eat the food there? Like do you know what chrena is?
Oh? I don't. I wish I did. That's it great because it's funny. So when I went back and started working out with the King, you got to think, like I've never even been on like the concourse level of most place because I'm always in the locker room on the floor that I'm out of there. So like when I go to Staples Center now, like I take pride and kind of seeing like what little paste tastes good when I'm in the Kings while I was working for the Kings, walk around at halftime, like seeing what little
spot taste good? Because I like, like I love like the food a daughter stadium, Like I always liked trying the hot dogs or whatever the NAT shows wherever I'm at, So I can't say that I know what stadium has the best food?
Were you at all start?
I did it all?
In Indiana?
There was like these like at the CTITU there's these like gigantic pretzels.
Were they good? Oh my god?
Like it tasted like it was like heavy salty. It was like it was salty, but it was like the material like cake. So it was like cake, you know what I mean. Like it was so I could have eaten like a hundred of us.
That sounds good. I'm always for that.
You go on a food tour, I'm all the stadiums.
That's a good thing. We can go together make some content. Yeah, we definitely make some content. I'm down.
Who is a player in the league currently, a young guy that you think's game is similar to.
What you're sing?
Oh? Man, I don't really think there's there's I think the game has changed so much to me. I could tell you guys that like style of players that I feel like that I kind of played like there's still like a Pat Bev or a PJ to Like I feel like I was a three and D kind of a physical presence, you know, I always had to guard the best player. But like I said, back when I played, there was roles for that. Now it's just like there's
less defense and obviously more skill on offense. So I wouldn't really say like none of I wouldn't say none of these younger guys, Like these guys are dope, you know what I mean? These guys are super talented. Like I said, I hung my hat on toughness, heart, being able to shoot threes and play defense.
So so now we've talked, we've gotten deep. We've gone a little too far. But that's okay.
About the bathroom, no, no, no, no, that's okay for men to be like talk about their like.
Shut out like.
We should get a sponsorship at.
About you, Poppy? For sure, I'm gonna write it down in my notes. I don't forget.
It's the pink apron guy. Watch you, Poppy.
Okay, So last session is Slowan knows your game, okay, but do you met?
I don't know, so we shall see. Are you ready to do it? Okay? You were drafted forty six? Who was drafted forty fifth? And who was drafted forty seven?
Oh no, clue joy, guess I have no idea.
Okay, So that's a zero. So it's not a great start, man, I need you to see.
Draymond is more focused on side. Remember he listed everyone that was drafted for like I didn't. I care about none of that. I'm just ready to go to work.
How many UCLA players have been selected in the NBA.
Draft one hundred and two Okay.
I'll give you one more guests because you're like sword of close.
We just did a thing on our thing today. There have been or how many how many is.
It one hundred twenty five?
Oh? We were wrong?
Then this is not like if your son's watched this off not great?
Maybe that's my dad.
Yeah, embarrassing. Okay, now let's try to revive you.
Okay, what was your free throw percentage during your four years at UCLA?
Oh? Man, like sixty eight or sixty nine percent?
Oh, he is confident and it's actually sixty point five? Was it?
Yeah?
Fifty point five?
Yeah?
Hoof? Yeah, maybe that was my NBA I got to like almost the seventies when I was in the league. But yeah, man, hoof, that's like a coin flip's don't send me to the line. I mad him win account the what a shock he say? I used to make him win? It counts. Let me go with that one.
You shot a career high and your three point percentage during your senior year a UCLA.
What was it?
Oh, no, thirty forty two.
Forty one point seven? Which round it is forty two? Okay, we at one point for that. There is another famous Matt Barnes.
Baseball pitcher for the White Sox Red Sox Red Sox. I got traded, yes, so I don't know where he's at now, but I always it's funny. The reason why I say it because I'll go on Twitter sometimes that people are cussing me out for a bad inning. I'm like, yeah, I'm Matt barn Like, you're a piece of get out of here. I'm just like, damn what I do this time? And it's it was the Matt Martins, the pitcher. Where's he got?
Now?
We's in the minors, but he's part of the Washington Nationals organization.
Yeah, I used to get I used to get hell when he pitched for the Red Sox.
Yeah, he was like an all star.
Yeah, he came out, he got a nice contract and everything. I was always in the loop. Like people thought it would correct gratulations on the forty million. I'm like, I wrong, Matt Barnes. Thanks though, So now.
Okay, I mean you got half of that question, so technically a right question. It's two points and so the first one, so you're at like three, like four, go ahead, three, it's my show, Matt, gotcha?
Yeah, thank you?
Okay, you played on the Magic for one year and you played all eighty one games.
How many points did you average?
I think in Orlando, I have it was like anywhere from like nine to eleven somewhere in that window.
Yeah, eight point eight.
We just like practically, I mean, is that really a winner's mentality for me to be like Matt eight point eight?
But you said none, but you think give you.
The points still it's your show, you know.
That is so true. I did say that. I feel like you can get like a half thing. Yeah, okay.
Next, how many touchdowns did you score your senior year of high school?
Twenty eight? Yes? Okay, good one that was on a broken toe too, by the way, but go ahead, wow.
Look at you.
Okay, you played two seasons with the Lakers. What was your career high in point score?
I'm guessing twenty four? Twenty four? No, but it wasn't because I know I had like twenty five against Minnesota one time because I was seven for seven, I didn't miss oh twenty five points. So yeah, yeah, much as pretending. So maybe that's a plus two for me because you're that puts me like, that puts me at like eight.
Yeah, eight, I don't know, I feel that's maybe six six. Yeah, let's let's roll with six.
Round up.
You had one triple double in your career, twenty six points, eleven rebounds. Tennis is how many steals do you have that game?
Oh? Man, I don't know. I know I was the oldest player ever to get their first triple double. Steals. I'll maybe say three two, this.
Is a bonus. How many blocks and how many fouls?
I was tired of that game, so I'm saying maybe forty five fouls and.
Five thousand yep?
Two blocks?
Zero blocks.
The rest of your stat line was you said you shouldn't asked that you were tricking me.
Yeah, I was. Okay, this is the last question, Matt.
Okay, this is worth ten It's.
Okay, fine, whatever. This is like my teachers.
This is what teachers hate the most when the kids try to be the ones controlling the gradeing. But it's okay, I'll okay. This is a two parter. You won your chip in Game five against the Caps.
Okay. Lebron is the leading scorer in that game. How many points did he have?
Thirty six? Thirty eight more?
Yep?
Did he he got in the forties?
He did let's go forty two, forty one?
Okay, what did Katie had you guys?
That was actually the next question who led the warriors in points?
But you and Katie were going it was Katie?
And how many points did Katie score?
High thirties?
You need to give me like a real number.
It was high thirties up, yes, okay, thirty.
Eight yes, thirty nine okay, So how many points do you think you deserve from that?
At least four point two point two? Yeah?
Okay, well I'll consult.
That'll give me to a fifteen.
Some other people I feel like you. Well, thank you, Matt, that was so much fun.
Doubt, thanks for listening.
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