Seth Curry

fan duel sports book makes it easy. Alright, So, as y'all know, UM number one, welcome back to The Draymond Green Show. Like we said last week, we're splitting the show up in just two different segments, and today we have the player guest segment of the show. I'm honored

to have this next guest on the show. Actually a guy who when he came into the league started his career his first training camp with US UM, which I look back on that now and you see the players that he's become, and you have to sit and think and wonder, like, man, how did he get away from us? Number one? It's just when you when you think of the word nepotism, it's it's it's alive and well and especially all through the NBA. So even from a nepotism standpoint,

it should have been this way. And then if we took advantage of that, we would have this guy and we automatically win the championship with what he's bringing to the court. But we didn't even take an advantage of that, and we lost out on this guy. And I actually have the utmost respect for him because he didn't get it that way, because he went and got it out the mud to the G League, into the league, back to the G League, into the league, back to the

G League, and then he made his way. This next guest, my brother Seth Curry. What's up, Bro, Welcome to the Draymond Green Show. What was going on? Man? Just chilling man number one? Um, Like, I was just saying, what what was it for you that was that that drove you to Like I think most people would have said, no, Steph, you can, like you can Oncent, make strong on the team, make strong on the team. Y'all have the same agent. The agent can say, hey, no, make sure he's on

the team. You never wanted it that way. What was it that drove you to to make you go get it out the mud the way you did. I'm just I've always been that way. I know Steph having a but like him as his perks, especially uh the more he goes up enough when it gets more power within the league. But kind of my whole life I kind of want to separate myself a little bit. Um. That's one of the reasons I didn't decide not to go

to Davison out of high school. I wanted to to kind of make my own mark, beating my own person and really kind of earned everything everything that I did. So I think just having that way it's made me a better a better player in the long run, just because I really embraced my journey in and really had to, like I said, had to grind, had to work for every single thing. So I don't really take it for granted. Absolutely, And speaking of not going to Davidson out of high school.

Out of high school, you went to Liberty, and take take us on that journey. That journey to Liberty, you went and totally dominated, especially as a freshman, leading all freshman scoring with twenty a game. Take us on that journey to Liberty and you're going there, and and what other schools did you pick against as well? I had like two or three offers out of high school, so I was I mean, I committed to Liberty after my

junior year in high school. I think if I would have waited and played it out, I would have had some more offers because I just made a little jump going into my senior in high school. But I had a good relationship with the coach at the time at Liberty, Richie McKay. Um. I knew he was gonna put ball in my hands and give me opportunity to to improve my game and show what I can do. So I went to UM. I went to the place that that would, like said, give me the opportunity to display my skills

and what I could do. And I was at Liberty UM just that system and and doing and like I said, I made a big jump and that that really propelled me to who I am today and giving me that confidence that I could I could play against the best at the high school level and I mean at the college level. And I figured it out as I go along. You then go to Liberty, you dominate. How How did how did the process go for you ended up at Dupe. Like, did you did they just come right after you at Liberty?

Did you open up that you wanted to transfer? They came after you along with other schools. How did that process work out? Yes, it's I was at Liberty. So I had a great UM non conference UM non conference run. I mean, I was age a lot of points, doing my thing. When the when got into the conference play and they were sending double teams triangle into was at me, and it just it wasn't a good styllar basketball for

me to play. It wasn't fun. I was you hear that that frustration that Kevin been talking about over the past few weeks of sending traps at him as he comes across half Port, that was me all throughout conference place. So I was like, I gotta go somewhere where I can play some real basketball and being around some better teammates and play UM just at a high level. So I opened up my my recruitment. I said I was transferred.

I didn't know where I was gonna go. My dad obviously did some research of some options that I would have. But once I decide I was gonna transfer, UM, I wanted to. I know I wanted to play inn ACC somewhere um and Duke came calling. I stepped on campus, Coach put the put the JJ Reddick videos up for the Voodoo on me, and I didn't make it out out of his office without a commitment. So uh, it

just worked out that way. That's that's insane. As a kid from Charlotte growing up in the state of North Carolina, you got North Carolina Duke. We all know how that goes. I'm not sure with the way that y'all eyes were set up, like y'all were more of an NBA family, So I'm not sure if if if y'all grew up North Carolina or Duke, I would love to know that.

But like that gotta be a dream come true. Like as a North Carolina kid, you're then't going to do Yeah, we all wanted to go to Dukes kids, bro Like, like I've been a Michigan State was my dream school. But at at some point in life you're like, yo, you want to play for coach k at Duke, Like that's a big deal. I know that had to be insane As a North Carolina kid who also it seemed

like you would never have that opportunity as well. Yeah, it's it's I mean, we grew up into the Bacco Road, rabb the street in Charlotte, So I just think you said we're around the NBA game, but being growing up in North Carolina's college basketball first. So it's North Carolina's, dude, because and he stayed those those type of schools that I mean, it's just some some special about the rivalry.

So growing up watching those games, um being on campus said, dude, like you said, walking in Coach K's office, it was a real film. My mom was around. She was she was in his office crying. I'm like, you know, you gotta relax, like it's a recruiting recruiting visit. She's in there in tears because we're at Duke and it's it's it's hard to believe, but uh yeah, it's a it's a drink on. She'd really uh put on that dude blue and play. I was growing up, I was, I was.

I really like both teams. I wouldn't say our favorite duke O from North Carolina. I just like going to the to the tournament games when they were when they're in uh Greensboro for the most part, and uh yeah, and that was all dude down And speaking of dude, um, you get the chance to team up with Kyrie Irvan again, Yeah, and totally different spaces of your lives, totally different players

in your word, Then, what's that been like now? And I know it's been a small selfle size is very fresh, But what's that been like now coming forth and teammates and the NBA it's been greatly Like we only played what ten eleven games together in college, obviously with an injury, but yeah, I remember that. Yeah, but uh now, yeah, I mean it's it's it's been smooth since with the ground running. Um, both of us guys obviously high Q guys can Burt can do a lot of can play

on the ball, off the ball. Um, he's a un selfish guy. Even though he puts up the scores of the ball at a high clip. He'll he'll get a ball up and let you play freely. So, UM, we're figuring out as we're going along. Obviously our team is changing week by week. But um, it's been fun and just watching him play, watching him work on this game, stay sharp, it's making me better at the same time, And and and and Katie as well, like I've I've

had the opportunity to play with Katie Um. As you know, one of I always say Katie is if if somebody told you go in the lab and create a player, you're going to create somebody who's six ten, that can dribble, that can shoot, that's fast, that can jump. You're gonna go create Kevin Durant. Like for you, especially with the role that you played in the NBA, which I want to talk more about, but with the role that you've played in the NBA, for you, that gotta be a

dream come true. I mean teams are sending double teams at him, like for you, that gotta be a dream come true. And he can pass the ball? What's that been like? Building that chemistry with him and just like figuring out how he works. I think I think that takes him getting used to as well, Like people like the way Kate working, the way he approached basketball, It takes him getting used to and you could be still adjusting to it. Yeah, he's a I mean it's easy

to me because he's a basketball guy. He loved the game. He enjoyed the games. That's what he's all about. So um, I think he when you come to the team that he's on and he he knows you're you're another guy who's a basketball junkie who live for the game, who who who has a smart i Q. He gonna he's

gonna respect you. So um, I feel like, yeah, I'm watching him every day, watching this work ethic, which is I know you already talked about it a lot of times in your podcast, but it's crazy to see him work the detail he puts into his his craft on a daily basis and see that translate into games. It's not like he just a sixteen guy with all the talent and he just goes out there and it's it's it's gonna be easy for He puts in the work and behind closed doors and that that's on display every night.

So um, it was. It was a little adjustment early on playing with him, figuring out his spots, that that he likes the ball on, um, figuring out just how to play pick and roll with them, things like that. But I mean, after a couple of games, has been pretty smooth, and I feel like that's that's one of my one of one of my good attributes. I played with a lot of different types of star players, and

I've been able to fit in. Well, Um, that's that's probably That's that's gonna gonna allow me to have longevit in this league, is being able to adapt my game to the type of start talent I'm playing with at

the time. I think, I think especial when you look at you play with Luca, Yeah, Steph, Dame, Katie, Kyrie, Joel Yeah, yeah, all those types of and they all, I mean every time I let they all seemed like they really enjoyed playing with me, something I take pride in uming I said it before, like a guy like me, I'm not I'm gonna be a start to stop playing on the team. So for me to make my mark, I gotta make the game easier for those guys and and and that's that's that's where I've become used to

speaking of being a star player. Has it ever bothers you that your name has never been mentioned in like or or like, You've never been top two and most improved player, because I think you know when when when you look at awards like that, hey, you're averaginging fifteen

points a game. You went from you went from undrafted to average fifteen points, meaningful points a game and the starter in the league, and like like in my mind, you you you tip the trade like the trade that happened with Brooklyn and and the next you you tipped that trade Like That's like, I'm sure if I could have been in those rooms, that was a huge key going on in the trade or whether you was going

to be involved in the trade or not. For you to go from undrafted to where you are in the league. You're an asset, You're you're a starter in this league. We know what you're bringing on and on most years you're leading the league and three point shooting, which three point shooting is what runs this NBA right now? Um, does it bother you that you've never been in those in those conversations, I know it fucking bothers me. Yeah, I mean I would like to be in a discussion obviously,

I don't think. Uh, I mean, how are you gonna be recognized for you for what you put in the work and how you how you've shown that every year. But I think the main reason my just my overall county stats hasn't had a huge jump for me of the year, I've gotten communtally better every single year. It's not like I went and double my numbers um from one year to the next. So I mean, I'm incremminately

getting better. My my uh efficiency is is pretty pretty good every every single year, and that's that's what I primed myself on. So it's not like I have a I think my usage rate just hasn't gone crazy, which is the main reason. So, um, just it's just the spending because of the role I've been in over over certain seasons where I had to jump like that. But I mean, I know I am as a player. The organizations I've been to, the fan basis know what I bring every night, and the people who watch me play

every night. So I think that's what means the most of me. Absolutely. I mean, that's that's definitely a special thing. I mean, I guess you makes a great point about incrementally getting better, but I still like to look at the entire bodies of work as well. Like and I also think that you've had years where you went from averaging three points to eleven or ten or eleven like that. Those are huge jumps, Like that's not easy to do.

That's that's a totally different player. That's somebody who probably end up playing in forty one games in the season, forty six games this season and somebody who go to playing every single night and producing at that level. So I think that's a big Another thing. I think I played even better come playoffs, and I think I had

some some really good playoff moments playoff series. That so from like playing the regular season basketball, which is one thing, but taking out to another level in the playoffs where it's it's a totally different um level of basketball and obviously on a bigger stage, and it's harder to play well in the playoffs, so um like, So that's that's another thing that's it's probably a little under appreciate it absolutely. I mean, hey, man, I shoot. I shoot a pretty

high percentage from three in the playoffs. Man, Everybody tell me I can't shoot, but I make them when they matter. So, uh, I think and and like I'm with Clutch, So I've been that. I've I've had the opportunity to watch Rich work. I've had the opportunity, uh Marverage my big brother, Like, I've had the opportunity to watch him work and be around him. Randy, And you look at those guys and how people think because they're like because them and Lebron

all came up together. That people think just because they came up with Lebron, that Rich Paul is who he is because he came in with Lebron, that Maverick Carter is who he is, that Randy is who he is because and the reality is Lebron gave a platform, but you have to take advantage of that platform. In turn, what people end up doing is they end up using Lebron against you, like, oh, well, because he only can

do that because he got Lebron James. And now you have to prove the people you're worth times too on what you've already done because people using Lebron jamesing issue. I feel like people has used staff against you. Do you feel some of that in this league or where you've had to like overproducing, over show what you were capable of due to stuff being who he is. Oh absolutely, I said a lot early on. If I was my name was Joe Smith, I would have been in the

league a long time ago. But I think, like like you said, sometimes those those connections and who you can get you in the door. But um, it comes to time and when you gotta produce every day, you gotta bring value what they're gonna get you out of there. So, um, like I said, you gotta ask, you got have some stuff substances with who you are. You actually those connections

to grading and being around with people. Obviously learn it from Steph being able to ask some questions just following his journey and is gives me a huge leg up, a benefit because I got a guy who's who's been through a lot of the grinds, and I can, like I said, I could pick his brain and I can more pointly just watch what he doesn't added to myself. But um, I gotta mold that to who I am, and I gotta I gotta bring value to the team

or to whatever I'm doing myself. So um, it's it's a pros and concept to like you said, to being the younger brother Stephana and the son of del absolutely um, I mean, yeah, I can see that. But speaking of that, obviously the world knows that you're married to CALLI um, y'all are the parents are two beautiful children, which obviously makes doc yr stepfather, Yeah, stepfather father in law, father

in law. Did you have any problems separating the two, like especially going into the trade, like did that bother you that you was being traded away from the team that that doctor's coaching or was it just like no, that's part of the business for you. Now it's a it's a part of the business, man. Um. I know he's not pulling the trigger or whatever. He's he's in the room that he can give his input, but he's not pulling the trigger. Um. But the whole time I

was there with a smooth selling. I mean we went in the gym, it was business as usual. He was we had a job to do. Um, Damn. I mean Callie didn't want to get traded. She didn't want to have to deal with it, uh, playing with playing for her father again. Obviously she dealt with it for a long time with her brother. Um that's provenly and all the all the stress that went along with that. So um,

there's a there's a different situation. But it was it was smooth selling doc, great culture that had great time playing for him. But when it was time to move on. Is it's a it's a business. I understand it. And you go something else and you do your job there. Absolutely, And speaking of speaking to CALLI and your dynamic, talk to me about being a father, man. I know, for me, it's been like it's been a total it's been a total reset for me, like and having kids and what

matters and selflessness like learned. I mean, we're truly learned how to be selfless. Um, I think those are those were some of the biggest adjustments for me. Talk to me about being a father and what that brings to you on the daily. That's great, the best thing ever. Man. You already know, like it's it brings peace when you come in the household. You it's so much stressing and stuff to come along with the job when you're coming home.

It's most of the times this piece is being around your kids, watching them grow up every day, trying to mold them into the people, uh that they should be. And for me, it's a it's just it's a learning process. Man. I watched I was got three uh or nieces and nephews. Um, so I watched the way Stephen and I used your parents and kind of took some notes. But once once I have my own kids, those kind of went out the window. Men. You gotta learn and do it your

own way. So uh yeah, my daughter actually, just like my wife, a lot of energy talking up with storm. My son is like me, just be chilling, don't say a word, um, easy going. So it's it's fun how that works out. That's hilarious. Callie has to be one of the most competitive people I've ever met in my life, right, Yeah, I mean between Pelotone. She thinks she can beat me at pelotone. She thinks, I don't know, she probably do be being you on pelotone. She to she she close,

but she she messing with me on the Pelotonic. Nah, no, sir, you recently just did something with peloton, didn't you. Yeah. I had a little deal with Pelotona a couple of months ago. Have my mom was a captain in one of the classes with Alex Tucson. Yeah, it was. It was a dope, dope experience. That's fire. I wish. I think when I saw that y'all were doing that, my

back's messed up. I haven't been on the peloton since December because I haven't been able to rid because, um, like they don't want me in a slouse position because I would have loved to do that. That's dope. But speaking to Callie, man like, tell me more about these debates y'all be having brothers. I didn't got a text a couple of times like I said this, what do you think? And I'm like, I think I might have agreed with you on both of them, and she's like

both for y'all. Yeah, coming coming from the family she come from, she she probably the most competitive. She got all brothers, um obviously docking the family. They all athletes. They arguing, compete about everything. So that's that's been carried over into my household. She talked more basketball than me, talked more sports than me, and UM, I know, yeah, you already know she is when it comes to the arguments and being competitive. So that's that's something that we

enjoy in the house. So it's like it's like a game. No us just watching games, arguing, competing in all types of way. So, um, it's a fun element. That's great, man, that's incredible. Man, talk to talk to me about coach Ka this is last season and going out against North Carolina. Bro, Like that's brutal, man, Like for all the marvels the last I mean a c C championship and the final four. O, my god, man, it's it's tough. As former players and whatever we just got to accept the l we see

a Carolina player in the locker room. We gotta ain't nothing we could say right now with taking the hell at home and then losing to him in the final four. But I think getting to the final four they held him down for the most part. It's tough to get to the final four. Um, just to send him out on that stage. I know it's tough for those guys this year, but I mean in case, my guy, he deserved all the all the accolades, all the credit, um, because I mean, he made me into a big reason

why I'm the man, the player I am today. Give me an opportunity to play there, molder me teach me about leadership, that competitive spirit and just fitting into a team doing things, um, being that are bigger than yourself fit into a team. So um, hopefully you can relax when when he gets out of there and you're not not still stressed out about about being a coach, and he can relax in the joy uh enjoy his time off. Yeah, No,

he definitely deserves man, go for sure. Um, I had the opportunity to play for k and Olympics, and I think I think in watching Duke over the years. I think him coaching the Olympic team made him a much better coach. I think it, um it allowed him to adjust with the times. Like a lot of big time college coaches like Hey, they struggle to adjust with the times.

I think Kay made that that that adjustment gracefully. And I think in large part do to him coaching the USA team and you coaching NBA guys and you kind of gotta let them go. Could you see that? Especially growing up in Carolinia you watched him for so long. Could you see that transition when you started coaching Olympic team? Yeah? I agree. I came in so my first year we ever, like two thousand and ten, right after he started coaching the the USA team team, and he would always come

back every summer. He would come back like a little bit of a different coach, you know what I'm saying, just being around those guys, coaching those guys. He would come back with some different different elements to him and how to deal with us as players, um, how to adjust just his coaching style a little bit to it,

to adapt to the way we are. But um, yeah, he came back more energized, more anything, being around greats like that during the summer coaching us a team that rubbed off on him, just the way he rubbed off on those guys, and UM that that allowed his last ten, twelve years or whatever of being a dude coach to to go to another level, to see the cruise he brought in, see the way coach to him. I think

that that's the end of his career. Um. Speaking of the NAT, y'all are currently and tenth places, which I mean, I don't think it's neither here nor there. I think there's a lot of things that's happened over the course of the season, whether you're talking about Um changing the team or I mean not changing the team, but like that was a big change, James going to fill in you and Ben uh drumming going to the nets and kind of blending all that stuff back together. Like ten

isn't indicative of the team that y'all have. I don't believe that. I do. I do think in this playing situation, y'all still going to get in. But where we're like, how is it going to work every day? Is it's the mindset, like yo, we know once we get there that you know we we can put it together or is it a little sense of panic? I was no panic. I mean, keep it a stack. Like the reason we in ten flaces, they went on like eleven twelve game losing streak during the whole James thing, Kyrie was out.

Katie was out. Um, so it's hard to it's hard to bounce back from a twelve game losing streak and have a a good, good position in the playoffs. But um, there's no panic. We know, we obviously know we got some things to fix. We gotta be better defensively to to win on out how bed offensively, y'all, you gotta you gotta be able to get time we stops. You gotta be able to shut teams down for periods of time to to advance in the playoffs, no matter who you got on the team. But we know we got

a lot of talent in our locker room. We know we've got Katie and Kyrie who when they step on the floor, they give you a chance against anybody, no matter what. And as we go along with figuring out our role, so um, hopefully we get a little bit more healthy going into the playing game, into the playoffs. And like I said, we're confident as ever. We feel like we stack up well against anybody, and and we're

ready to strap him up. Absolutely, I think um and and speaking of the trade, to look at all that that was going on and to see the positioning of the Brooklyn nets, and then you look over and you see the position in uh, the seventies sixers, I think that should add to to Joel's m v P case. Ultimately, my m v P this year, my m v P put pick, it's definitely Booker. Uh, with the way book is playing, It's insane number they they number one in

the league by long shot. You can make your reasons, um, injuries, this, that and the other. They've had injuries just like everybody else had entries, they dealt with COVID, But Books played all years, been consists. So my pick is Devin Booker. But I think that has to make more of a case for Joel and how everything stayed together no matter what was going on, because you can look on the opposite and y'all are forty and thirty eight, you know, And so I think that makes them more of a

case for Hell, what's your take on Joel. But the m v P conversation as a whole, Joel was I mean here worth the NV candidate, obviously the numbers here putting up crazy. Um, like you said, he held us together. Um about the times where he could have won a lot of different way dealing with the Ben situation. Uh, he was stable. Every night he showed up to play and he was like, we got enough. He was the main guy of that. We got enough to win right

now regardless. So but at the same time, I don't want he wasn't doing the buy himself and Philly, we got, we got. It was a lot of talent, you know what I'm saying. He was, It was you got. You got some teammates that were rolling with him that they were playing well, play as well as they've ever played throughout the most of the regular season. So he wasn't doing the bomb stuff. But I want to see Joe

get one. He deserves. He's put in the work, he's gotten better, he's he did a much better job these past couple years taking care of his body. Um, being available, and um, yeah, he deserves, Like I said, But I mean, you got guys like Yoki Jannis who are consistent in doing it every night too. So it's gonna be a it's gonna be interesting to see who wins it, just because you never know putting in the in the media hands man, you never know which way they're gonna go.

The facts and the reality is most I wouldn't say most of the time, does that be a lie? But in a lot of situations they go the wrong way, so I'll I'll just leave that. A lot of situations they go the wrong way. Yeah. But but who you're picked? Though, you gotta pick one? He can't give me the diplomatic I want to see Joe get one, but y honest, consistent and Joker consisted, who your pick for m VP? Man? Give me ye give Joe. Uh, I'm going with Joe up man Joel, like I said, he turned it up

to make consistent. He's he's improved man. Like if you go if it's that close between three three people who, like I said, Joel, Joke gets um y honest book, give me Joe l his teams in a good spot and he had one one yet, so give him one. Ain't it ain't no fine science and ain't like somebody should win it. There's no science to this, so nothing's fact another set of stone, so give him one. He ain't got one year. He deserved it, man, I could,

I can. I can roll with that. I think, Um, I think, I think we've seen times where where awards has been one and you like that dude won at the war because there was it was just a safe pick, like you know, and and they do. They could pick that and to be fine. Yeah. Yeah. My problem is there's no crisis, there's no criteria. Every every year, the criteria is a little different every years. It's more stats driven, um, analyst driven. The next year is best team, uh, best player,

you know what I'm saying. So I understand why Book got a legitimate beef himself. No, I understand that too, because I mean, you're right, if you look at it, I think I think, I think we're RUSS one m VP. They were like a seven or eight seed. Yeah, yeare six? Yeah, like no, granted that roster wasn't great, like it was not. It was not a great roster by any stretch of imagine, but it wasn't. It wasn't as bad as they made. You made it scene when ain't left either. They had

them they have it's a bonus. They had some guys over there too. Now the bonus it was young though he was like his first or second year, Okay, okay, Vick, Vick was still Vick was just leaving Orlando figuring himself out, like vic really figured himself out for real, for real. In Indiana, Like Orlando, he played good, like he played good enough for us to know he was good, and then he got the okay see and it's like all right,

like all right, yeah, he see, he's still good. But then when he got to Indiana, he really took off, and so I think he he also had those guys when they were a little younger as well. Though yeah, I mean, listen, I ain't taking it away. Russell Rust was a monster that year and then he had a season and like any other. But it's white giving it to a six seventh seed that that don't happen a lot. That's that's fright, the first time I've ever seen it.

So what's the what's THEE? Give me? Give me a set criteria that we live in by every single year so we can be consistent. I agree. I think something like that needs to happen, just just for the simple fact, like you know, these these awards and like um first team, second team, third Team All NBA, like these things are deciding tens of millions of dollars, like you in some cases where guys have lost forty million dollars due to

these things. And it's just somebody who could like somebody could possibly be mad at like I don't really like him because he didn't get me an interview. I'm not going to vote and cost this man forty million dollars. I think, like you, you're one, right, there should be some type of crisis criteria set for all of these awards, for all of these are NBA teams and stuff, because you have human beings that has very little contact with

sad human beings. And when I say very little contact, I mean they don't have the contact of someone in the front office that's ultimately deciding how much they pay you right um the contract offer they give you. But you're having these human beings hold the power of essentially deciding how much money someone can feed their family with. Ye. And there's nothing, it's nothing that says you have to go about it this way. These are the things that

matter fit someone into the square nasal wins. It's nothing that says that I think that's ridiculous. Yes, they don't make a lot of sense man at all. Somebody got somebody, Yeah, give me a set, a set criteria, or just take it out to take it out their handy players. What you're gonna playing and that's it? Yeah? Yeah, I think I don't know, man, A lot of things would just leave me. I would just put it that way. Um, I ain't gonna give myself find to damn, we're just

leaving at that. But I don't. I don't want to hold you for too much longer. You got you got a tech last night? Say that, bread, I did get a tech last night. Bro, you know what? I got a tech last night. Bro, y'all love on man, hold on man, y'all love twenty Are you getting texts? What I told you? Rough? I said that was dead wrong, and he gave me a tep. I said that was

dead wrong. That second time I've seen it happened to you, by the way, this ship where you would actually you you were calm, you were just you're talking nothing, saying nothing crazy. He's talking in a loud voice, but you said nothing crazy and give you a text. It's the second time I've seen you happen to you this ship. Man, it's crazy and I you know, I try not to say I'm targeted, you know, I try not say I'm targeted because I'm I'm not. I don't. I don't have

that victim mindset. I'm not a loser. I win, and so just to have the victim mindset, I'm not. I'm not that type of person. So I try not to make it like, oh, I'm being targeted. But I'm not a fucking idiot either, Like I know, I'm mean with two. I know two plus two equal four. Like I'm not dumb. You start talking about like you know, there's human emotion

involved in this. It's not like, again there's some exact science that says you say it X, Y and z. You get attached like there's human emotion involved in this. And that's one of the things that that kind of bothers me in the appeal process. It's like, it's no way possible I win twenty nine of I win one

of every thirty appeals. There's no way possible when you when when when there's human like there's a human being deciding this and there's no criteria really set for it, there's no way possible I lose every single appill because again, these are totally different human beings deciding the criteria this it has to be shifting one way or the other depending on who who, And yet you never win. It's impossible. And that's what I don't even appeal him anymore. You

pretty still acquire on the Piller process. Man, they needed, I wouldn't be. They need to make them up and so they know the conversation that I had that that warrants these texts because they just I got one before this season. I got they might be on something. This year, I got one tech of my career. It was for like an altercation saying that crazy, and I got three texts. I don't yell. I'm not having a really vinimate conversations

about a call or whatever. I gotta tex. I got three texts this year and I none of them are warranted. But I don't know what's going on the pill process either. It's he said, she said, they can say, well whatever they want, and it's I'm not getting my money back. So that's that strikes. It's like a little cord and it's it's crazy. I I agree. I agree with one percent when you're saying they should be miked up, because

all I ask for is just some accountability. Like ultimately, it's like, bro, when I tell you, I used to go through this appeal process, Bro, I used to keep a tally of all my text our write down exactly what happened in text, bro, and like I would literally tell them like, no, I deserved that one. I deserved this one. I got. My money is worth right here, this one, note this, this and this happened. I didn't

deserve this one. This is yeah, deserved it, Like I would be one hundred percent honest because I mean, at the end of the day, it's a little fun. It's I've been fining a million times whatever. Like it's not that that bothers me. It's the lack of accountability that bothers me. It's one person get to say something, and that's just that that is a human being, bro. Human beings lie like so so so this person just gets all the saying what and and that's Bible Like, that's

that's what's happening. That that that bothers me because you have no real shot at defending against anything that's being portrayed on you, Like you have no real chance. You're appealing to the same group that that that gave you a fund that like give you this text you're peilling to the same people, like bringing a media, like an outside council that that appealed these things. Mike the referees

up because it's the ability is an issue. The same thing with the replay process, Like they make this call and they review their call. So if it's ain't nobody even nobody else reviewing that call form, So they gotta ego themselves. They don't want to admit in the in the heat of the matt moment in the game, that they made a mistake, So they don't by any any angle to say I made the right call on the fly.

I don't understand why it should be. It should be pretty easy to have another outside referee review this call and make the make the right decision. I agree, bro, last name, I got it. I got a tech for verticality. I mean, I got a file call for verticality. I go vertical, dude, jump into my body this way, so when he hit my body on this side, this arm come down. The rougher retails me on the file call. You went you you uh, you weren't vertical. You were

sliding into the space. They go to the monitor, but call a file on my arm coming down. I wasn't sliding into the space. No, we challenged that your car was wrong, bro, because there's no way you could see this arm on this side. Actually, if you could see the arm on this side, him hitting this side of my body brought my body down. I went straight up and even when my arm came down, it came down straight because it's just my body collapsing from taking the

hit to my to my midsection. But that doesn't make me an illegal defender because the dude hit me in my midsection and like like naturally your body is going to do this. And so what you called the follow on me for you're going to the replay and saying, oh, but you did do that. Well, we can say that about any call in history of the NBA. I don't know, man, some of these things I feel like they just be like checking the box and they really ain't like to

the benefit of the game. Yes, it's yeah, it's human as humans with no yeah, no accountabil that's all in the day, man. Just this just accountability like like it is on us every night. Absolutely. Hey now uh, just just before we get out of here, man, Um, what the last thing my asses, Um, what is it for you at the end of your career where you can look back and say, like some of the things that you you still want to accomplish that you can look

back and say, I checked that box off. I'm cool with ridding off into the sunset, you know, like I think and in our careers, I think we all have some things that we chase where you're like, all right when I do X, Y and Z. At that point, I'm truly just playing for the love of the game, like I have checked all the boxes I want to check as a competitor, What is that for you? For me? Man, I'm not really a goal right goal and check it off list. I'm a I'm a I'm a process type person.

I wacome every day, try to make the most of it. At the end of the season, I know if I approached stuff the right way. So it's it's hard for me to say I want to do this, I want to do this, I want to do this. You know, that's not the way I approach it on the daily basis.

That's not the way I got here. So for me, it's about making the most of every day, approaching every day every week the right way, and when I look back, I know then myself if I if I accomplished everything I could accomplish with my with my skill set, with my opportunities, And that is what it is. It's just about I know within myself and I feel if I if I did it the right way or not. So something I gotta live with and so far it's been

working out for me. Uh to this point, I want to find a question the Brooklyn Nets has to do. The Brooklyn Nets has to do. What to win the championship this year? Oh, that's a good question. Uh. To win the championship, we gotta we gotta, we gotta jail. We gotta come together as a team and offensively indeed do everything together. I mean, like you said, it's a new group. Middle of the season. We got to three new starters. Everybody's getting to know each other. Ka I

just came back full time. Um, a lot of guys come back from injury. We gotta we gotta do it together. Uh. Like I said earliest, we gotta talented team. UM, a lot of firepower. But in the playoffs, everybody got that. So you gotta jail, you gotta, you gotta come together, and it's gonna be some adversity we've gotta like we're dealing with now, but we're really a team. We've got fight through, no doubt, no dog my brother, I appreciate you coming on, man, It's an honor and a pleasure.

Like I said at the top of the show, Man, I know we we don't we don't talk often, but you know I'll put stuff on Instagram story here and there, like I respect your grind, Bro. I think where you are in your career and and the route that you've gone. And like I said, I always tell like try to tell younger guys and like second round picks and undrafted guys like I identified more with those guys than I do the stars, Like I came in this thing as a second round pick. Nobody gave me a chance we

start winning and my path change. You know what I'm saying. I identify with guys like you and like myself that's really had to get it out the mud, and nobody gave us ship coming into this league and to see where you've taken your career. Bro, in spite of battling the name Curry the most, Like most people think that's a Badge of Honor, and obviously all our last names our badge of honor. But people just think that's a

that's a golden ticket. And I know the battle that that brought for you because I watched it, you know, So I watched you come play well in the NBA and end up back in the G League because somebody really don't want to take the chance because your last name Curry and you and our Steph, like, that's dumb as hell. And so I've seen that, and I just wanted to say, Bro, I appreciate your game. It's been an honor to watch you grow, bro and keep going,

my dog. I appreciate what I get out there on say everything you're doing, man, keep going lovely see it. I love to see you on My favorite people to compete against too. And I remember a few years ago I was in Portland. You came within the game. You was talking to me um and I was loving it, man, I was talking to it. I was like, I might be here now, I might be might be making a little mark. Jamond talked some ship to me, trying to

get in my head doing a game. I'm doing something right, man, So absolutely absolutely, I'll tell y'all, what man, This is one of the one guys in this league that I can honestly say. I mean, if we play in the NBA Finals, I may have to lay you out because of this, But this is one of the one guys in the league. Steff, don't kill me for this. That get the better stuff. I'm just throwing that out there. I don't know, y'all gonna watch the matchups. I'm just

throwing that out there. This is the one guy who we'll be playing against and I just can't come close line them, and he come getting the better stuff. Now, I don't like it, and I don't like it. I don't like We were talking crazy one game and I might have been a playoffs in Portland or whatever. One game. Were talking crazy at the free throw line, and I'm not Steff, I'll talk back to you. I enjoy you know what I'm saying. I ain't. I ain't gonna just

play my game. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk back. I'm gonna say my say my piece. Step was at the free throw line, like in between this, he was acting on awkward. He didn't know what to do. I was a brother you this guy he'd been going to war with for ten years. He ain't step, ain't up what to do the line, but I was loving it. Oh my god. Absolutely, that's the best man. That's always the fun for me. I appreciate you, bro. All Right, bro,