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Draymond Green Show - Steph's 60-point night, All-Star snubs, response to Stephen A. Smith on Embiid

Feb 04, 202435 minEp. 106
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Draymond Green describes Steph Curry's 60-point game, the Warriors losing to the Atlanta Hawks, Trae Young, De'Aaron Fox, and Domantas Sabonis being All-Star snubs, Doc Rivers coaching the All-Star game, Joel Embiid's injury and Stephen A. Smith's reaction to Dray's pod.

0:00 Start
4:00 Steph's big game
12:00 All-Star snubs
24:00 Doc Rivers coaching All-Star
31:00 Response to Stephen A. 

Produced by: Jackson Safon

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What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the Draymondgreen Show. We got a couple pieces of business and then we'll get into the show. First, as we've said, please subscribe to our YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash at Draymondgreens Show. Subscribe to there. All your content for the podcast will be there. Secondly, I really encourage you to go check out our interview with Asiah Wilson last week.

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Incredible interview.

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Obviously, she's our MVP, one of the greatest players ever already and the WNBA, which I think is absolutely incredible because she's kind of just really scratched in the service of what her surface, of what her potential is and so it's been extremely pleasure to watch her, to watch her growth, to watch her growth as a woman has been even more enjoyable. And as you all know, you

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But check out the interview. I enjoyed it. It's fun interview, very insightful. Hope you all enjoyed it when you check it out. I know we have lots of new fans, new subscribers, and I saw a couple of y'all actioning who it is that pops up on the pot occasionally that's my producer, Jackson. Jackson can say what's up to y'all? You'll pop up again right now.

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What's up y'all? Jackson? Jackson does everything with the show.

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Speaker 2

What a time.

Speaker 3

So that's Jackson everybody. Now let's get into the show man. The Duves lose another tough game at Atlanta last night and very frustrating, especially with Steph having the type of night that he has. Sixty We did beat the Grizzlies on the first night of the back to back, then flew to Atlanta and loss a game that was very winnable. Another game that was very winnable for us, and like I said, Steph went for sixty. The rest of us didn't play too well. I think we were thirty shot thirty.

Everybody else shot thirty eight percent from the field, eight for thirty eight from three and he had Steph with ten threes.

Speaker 2

It always sucks when you lose a game.

Speaker 3

When you lose a game and your guy go off like that, it's even worse because you just feel like you had a total letdown. You feel like you didn't hold up your end of the barget because there's no way he had sixty points and we lose, you know, and so that in itself always sucks. We're in a very interesting stretch right now, very interesting stretch where, you know, some very winnable games on the strip and we need to put some wins together.

Speaker 2

This is right now is a.

Speaker 3

Very key time for us, and you know, it feels like we're turning the corner, you know, and then you kind of have these setbacks to like a loss like last night, where you like, we really should.

Speaker 2

Win that game, and.

Speaker 3

Trying to string some wins together has been a challenge.

Speaker 2

For this team.

Speaker 3

But I still believe that we're capable of doing that. I do think. You know, we've been on the run for a very long time, and a like as time has gone on, our margin for era has shrunk dramatically, And I think that's what's very interesting thing. So you look at all these close games we got like thirty of them, the margin for error is so small, and I think for us, I think we're making a bunch of mistakes that we should not be making a bunch

of small mistakes. And you start to add those small mistakes up over the course of a game, things that you can take away, and like they just usually come back to bite you in the end. And so I feel like that's like a lot of what been happening with us. It's like you just make these small mistakes over and over and over and over and over again, and at a certain point it's just impossible to overcome them. Everyone always say, what is it that this team have

to do in order to turn that corner? And the reality is, I don't think there's one thing to pinpoint. I think there's a few things to pinpoint, but most important, we have to play more mistake free basketball. Like stop making little mistakes that we make throughout the course of

a game. And if you can stop doing that, then you're able to build leads, right, Like we'll have times where we're playing well during the game and we're not able to build a lead because then those mistakes come in, right, and so then you're kind of fighting to battle the entire game of uphill battle. All of a sudden, the team going to run, they take control of the game. Now you're fighting for control back. You're fighting against those

mistakes even more. And so I just think we need to play more mistakes free basketball, like and I know that sounds like a very broad term, but it's like small, simple mistakes that you actually can control, Like we actually can control those things. And I think that's the key, Like, I think that's what we have to do in order to again turn this thing around.

Speaker 2

And I think we're more than capable.

Speaker 3

Like you see some of these games, you're like, oh, it's coming together right, like, and then he dropped one that you should have again, and.

Speaker 2

So that's frustrating.

Speaker 3

However, Steph Curry becomes only the second player with the Great Kobe Bryant to score sixty after turn thirty five years old. Man, I tell you, Steph had that look last night in that second half where you just knew, like you need to get out the way, and man, it's one of the most incredible things to watch him

have those types of performanceists. I personally, you know, you start to like expect these things, and then you like to still end up in awe, like you already expect the world of Steph Curry, right and like, and yet I'm still in awe at times and his shot making ability, of his building like he's doing. The way defenses react to Steph. No, no defenses has ever reacted to a player in the history of basketball like defenses react to Steph Curry. And I personally, I've watched a lot of basketball.

Obviously I didn't see what the whil chamberlains and the Bill russells, But I've watched a lot of basketball. I've never seen a defense react like the way defenses react to Steph is like how how you see like a bad high school.

Speaker 2

Team react to a great player.

Speaker 3

It's insane, Like the attention this man commands, and so we still got to figure out how to make teams pay for that attention that they're giving him, and I think at times, like I said, we're doing a good job of it, and at times it goes haywire. And so the consistency, maybe that's the word I'm looking for.

We need more consistency, more consistency in our decision making, more consistency in our on on the defensive end, more consistent consistency on the offensive end, making sure you don't have these spells where you get a bunch of bad shots, you know, and like the game starts to turn. And

so that's the word for the Dubs, consistency. We need to be a lot more consistent because if you're not consistent, you end up a bad team right around five hundred, and then if you are consistent, that is what gets you over the hunt. That's the difference in between a good team and a bad team. It's simply your habits and your consistency. And right now we don't have great consistency, and that's something that if we're going to change this thing, it has to be better.

Speaker 2

That's the only way you can win in this league.

Speaker 3

And saying that in speaking of Steph Curry sixty, which leads me straight into our next subject, that is All Star snubs Treyon twenty seven points and eleven assists, All Star snub like this, this, this conversation will get a little interesting because it's like the tell of two tapes.

Speaker 2

And yet both of them kind of got screwed. Which is this is a very like statistical driven lead.

Speaker 3

Like you look at analytics, you look at guys, you have some guys play for stats to get their contracts, to do all these things. Like it is a very statistical driven lead. That's how you get awards, that's how you get to mentions, the honors. It is that driven, no question about it. So now if the league is that driven, these things shall get interesting. That is Trey Young twenty seven points, eleven assists, currently on a four

game Winter streat, and currently tenth in the standings. So they're currently the last team in the playing game, half a game out of ninth place, a few games out of eighth place. So now you may say, okay, they have not had a successful season, which is indeed true. But in saying that then that does not explain why Demnta Sabonis and the Aaron Fox will snubbed d Aaron Fox is averaging twenty seven and a half points and

five assists. The Kings are currently at fifth in the West and has been in the top four most of the year. But they're currently at fifth, which means very much so in the playoffs, right there next to home court advantage in the first round. But they're in fifth. Twenty seven and five. You got Demanta Sabonis averaging nineteen point nine points, so we just gonna give them twenty thirteen rebounds and eight assists and the Kings are in

fifth place. Now that's interesting because in a stat driven league, we have the tell of two tastes, which is one team that's right on the brink of the playoffs, another team that is firmly into.

Speaker 2

The playoff picture. Right now, all three with.

Speaker 3

Incredible stats, none make the All Star Game. Now, the one thing that I can understand is Dean and Sabonis, And excuse me, Darren Fox and Demanta Sabonis probably pulled votes from each other because they.

Speaker 2

Probably will both be wildcards.

Speaker 3

You look at you look at the All Star rosters, and you got Kyle Anthony Towns as as a backup in the West. You got Anthony Davis as a backup in the West.

Speaker 2

And so.

Speaker 3

That right there, and there's one more front Oh, Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 2

I think.

Speaker 3

Is Kawhi back up in the West or is Kawhi a starter? No, Kawhi is not a starter. Kawhi is a backup. So there's your three front court players. Then you get two backcourt players, and then you get two wildcards. So now the wildcards in which is what the Aaron,

Fox and Sabonis would be fighting for. If you look at the roster, they probably pulled votes from each other because if you're looking at them, you're like, ah, it's sabonas from me for that team, it's Fox for me from that team, And so in turn, I think they pull votes from each other. And when they pull votes from each other, then someone else kind of slides in. That's solely getting the votes from their team. So for instance, in ad it's solely getting to vote from the Lakers

because Bron's a starter. Now you look at them and you say, wow, they got two guys into the All Star Game, and they are currently they are currently in ninth place and have been around nine to three eleventh most of the year. They got two All Stars in the game, But like, which one of those guys do you take out like because it's also a fan thing. Like, for instance, Bron made as a starter part in part due to fans, media and then also players. But let's

face it, like Bron's going to be a starter? Does Ad deserve not to make it? Ad has been playing season. Everybody's complaint have been games, and he's played a bunch of games and he's producing at a high level, So should he not make it?

Speaker 2

But yet they're team is at night, So.

Speaker 3

Again it starts to weigh those things are like what, like what is the criteria? There's never been a set criteria. It's your team's success, personal success, a combination of both. Again, the Kings guys and Fox and Sabonis kind of proves that the combination of both may be screwing you a bit.

Speaker 2

And so it's it's very interesting.

Speaker 3

And like I said, I don't I don't have anything for the Trey Young situation other than you know, they say a lot of coaches or a lot of people don't appreciate Trey's style of play, you know, so he'd be voted in by the coaches and they don't appreciate the style of play or how he competes on the defensive end or whatever. I'll tell you what Garden Tray Young is hell hell Like the way he uses his live threats, h the way he uses the guys around him.

He's great in the picking, he's super fast. Obviously we know he can shoot the blood out the ball he gets in between, you know, the rim, that kind of mid range area, kind of floaters, good finishing around the rim.

Speaker 2

All of that.

Speaker 3

So listen, I hear people complaints and all of that, but I'm gonna tell you, as someone who.

Speaker 2

Got half to guard, it's hell Garden Tray Young.

Speaker 3

Now, yes, Trey Young uses different things to get by drawing different files and different stuff like that, of course, but most of the great scores in the league use things like that. So to average twenty seven and eleven and not make the All Starting like this is the third year where he's averaged like twenty five plus points ten assists, dang there and didn't make the All Star team.

And I just find that very interesting because I see guys make it off stats alone in previous years and for some reason, uh, that just does not apply to Trey Young. Now, you got Julius randall out and you have possibly Joel both missing the All Star Game, and if they do, let's see who who would our subs be or replacements for the East. You got a group of Treyon, you got a group of Scottie Barnes.

Speaker 2

You have Jimmy Butler, Pascal Siakam, Chris Stabs.

Speaker 3

Yes, there's your list right there by the way for all y'all. There's Jackson stepping in helping me out, keeping us rolling. So yeah, you have a list of about five or six guys who could get in. I personally think with the talk around Tray, you know, with a replacement being named, he's already an All Star. All Stars usually get to ny. I also can see that him as one of the replacements. A lot of people saying Scottie Barnes. I think Scotty's growth has been incredible. I

probably would lean a little more. Jimmy's missed quite a few games, and so I think got to work against Jimmy. Jimmy quite honestly doesn't care about being an All Star or anything else.

Speaker 2

Anyway.

Speaker 3

You got Christos presingis who I think has has had a good year, and their team is right at the top of the East number one actually by quite a four games. And so however, that team also does have two All Stars on it already.

Speaker 2

Do you get three? Eh?

Speaker 3

I mean, there's no other All Star for Cleveland this year. The Knicks got both of those guys. There's no other All Star for Philly. There's no other All Star for Indy.

Speaker 2

Pascal.

Speaker 3

Pascal got traded Indiana, so maybe Pascal. There's no other All Star from Miami, Orlando, Chicago maybe tomorrow. And so when you start to look at it, I think Trey Young gets in, and it'll be interesting to see who that second person would be. Like I said, I think it'll probably be Chris Stopps, maybe Drew Holliday, one of those guys.

Speaker 2

I think probably more Chris Stops. But there you go.

Speaker 3

You may have a couple of replacements on that side of things, and it'll be interesting to see. Uh just for your information, the replacements are picked by Commissioner Adam Silver.

Speaker 2

That to choose the replacements, and so we'll see.

Speaker 3

But I, like I said, I I don't have a good.

Speaker 2

Explanation for you other than the ones that I've given you.

Speaker 3

Because again that's two different and tells that the take one team is winning one team is not all three got crazy stats and none of them make the All Star Game.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 3

Especially you know what you think like Fox coming off the playoffs he had and the different things like and then to come back producing like he is, you think that he takes that next step of respect and then you got you know, it's funny because stuff like this always happened where you got guys making that next jump and depending on the jump of others can affect someone else's jump.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 3

Uh, we seen it for years with Mike Conley being in the Western Conference and not being able to get an All Star bill because Russell Westbrook is in the Western Conference, Steph Curry's in the Western Conference. Uh, the list goes on and on the guys, and then you got then all of a sudden, you have Luca coming into the Western Conference on the tail, and the list goes on and on over the years, Tony Parker, Darren Williams, Damian Lillard.

Speaker 2

Klay Thompson, like, the list goes on and on.

Speaker 3

Where kind of Chris Paul, where it hurt Mike Conley and so you could be seeing one of those situations as well where Shay is playing so great, Anthony Erwars is playing so great. So you got those young guys in the West, right, you still got the Steph curR, you still got Luka doncis right. You still got these different guys. And sometimes guys just get squosed, and it's unfortunate. Somebody was saying the other day, like, well, maybe they should raise the All Star Game in fifteen. No, the

hell they shouldn't. No, they should not raise the All Star Game to fifteen.

Speaker 2

That's not happened.

Speaker 3

One more thing on the All Star Game and then I got one last thing to hit on and then we're going to get out of here.

Speaker 2

Adrian Griffin. Doc Rivers, let's rewind a little bit.

Speaker 3

Doc Rivers is the head coach after coaching three games, the head coach of the Eastern Conference All Stars. That's crazy. Let me tell you why that's crazy. Number one, y'all know, I got mad love for Doc, and Doc says something which I commend him on. Doc has always been a stand up gentleman. It's been in the NBA his whole life. That's why, stand up person, stand up gentleman. Nothing but

respecting love for Dot. Absolutely insane that he's coaching the Eastern Conference All Star Game when he was just talking at the Warriors game doing analyzing the game a week and a half ago. But Doc said that the ring from the All Star Game and the bonus will be going to Adrian Griffin.

Speaker 2

Respect that.

Speaker 3

Respect the hell out of that me personally, I think Adriene Griffin should have still been the coach of the All Star team. And here's why I think that, because Adrienne Griffin earned the right to be the coach of an All Star team in his first year. He earned the right being number two in the conference because last year Boston was number one. So Joe Mazzulain his staff was the coach. You cannot coach in the All Star

Game two years in a row. That's why when the Doves was dominating all those things, you wouldn't see Steve coaching the All Star Game every year because you can't coach it two years in a row. So Joe Mazzulain his staff are automatically disqualified, which means it moves on to the next team, which is number two seed Milwaukee Bucks. And Adrian Griffin coached that team to the number two seed before he was fired.

Speaker 2

In turn, they so they get the nod.

Speaker 3

Well, now the head coach is dot Why I personally, why I personally think Adrian Griffin should be the head coach of the All Star team is because if a player got traded today, but they're an All Star, guess what, They're still going to be an All Star.

Speaker 2

So this man.

Speaker 3

Gets fired a week and a half, two weeks ago, why shouldn't he still coach the All Star team?

Speaker 2

The work was done.

Speaker 3

The work was done, So I don't quite understand that if a player got traded and he makes the All Star Team, he's going to show up to that team as an Indiana Pacer as opposed to a Toronto Raptor Pascal Siachimist the most recent trade that came to my mind. But like, he's still being the All Star Game. So I'm not quite certain why Adrian Griffin isn't it is still the coach of the All Star Game. But like

I said, I commend that. And that also could get weird as hell though, because Gianni Scotton got h signed.

Speaker 2

Off on him getting fired, and.

Speaker 3

Dame probably had to sign off to some degree, and so that could get a little awkward knowing that these two guys have signed off on you getting boom and uh, now he coached them in the All Star Game, where hey, everybody's celebrated. That could get quite awkward and maybe that's why. But however, I like Adrian Griffin. We don't know if Adrian Griffin will ever get another head coaching job in

this league. In the one year that he did have a head coaching job for the all of four months, he coached the team to beat to be in position and he be an All Star Game coach, and he won't get it, and I'm not sure.

Speaker 2

He'll ever have the opportunity again, and that sucks.

Speaker 3

So I wish they could have figured something out for Adrian Griffin to still be the coach of the Eastern Conference All Stars because he deserved that, and he got booted a little too soon and that sucks. So wishing well for Adrian Griffin. And like I said, hats off the dot much respect and love. Respect the hell out of that before we get out of here.

Speaker 2

Stephen A.

Speaker 3

Smith, who also you know in his clip he said, I got a lot of love for Draymond Green. That love is mutual. I shared that with you all before. I got a lot of respect for Stephen A. A lot of people having opinions on stephen A. That isn't my opinion on the world's opinion on steven A does not apply to me. Real guy, very helpful to young guys like myself who's kind of come into this lane of media space. He's the first one to reach out

when you do something right and congratulate you. He's the first one to reach out when you do something wrong and walk you through what you did wrong, how you should have done it, and what you should do next time, how you should approached things. Very much so, one of the best in the space. I think he created a space that no one else can compete in. I think he is the best at what he does. So a

lot of love for steven A here. And by the way, steven A, you are always welcome on the Draymond Green Show. If you want to come on the Draymond Green Show once a week, we'll have you here.

Speaker 2

Stephen A, and I'll come on the steven A Show once a week.

Speaker 3

We can we can bump our gums wherever you want to bump our gums at stephen A. I'm cool with all of that. However, the new media is speaking now, and when you say the new media didn't tell the whole story.

Speaker 4

We all know, and I'm unapologetic about this.

Speaker 2

I got a lot of love for Draymond Green.

Speaker 4

We gonna call out Draymond Green right here on national television, and if he wants me to, I'll come on this damn podcast and call him out in front of his own damn audience. This is not his brightest day because you see, when you talk about new media, the obligation is to tell the whole story.

Speaker 2

He didn't do that.

Speaker 4

He complained, but he didn't highlight as you both articulated the origin of all of this, we're not talking about injured players. We understand legitimate injured players are legitimately injured players. What brought all of this about? You could take me off the screen individually. I want to look at Wendy and Perk when I'm saying this stuff. We're talking about individuals who took advantage of the privileges that were that were given to them by people who came before them.

Speaker 3

Well, quite frankly, my friend, I didn't need to tell the side that you are say every day because that's what people is listening to every day. They listening to Steven a yell about players, uh not not not playing,

and this, that and the other. But what I specifically said, though, Stephen as players are now getting punished for being injured because again, now we sit here and now we know that Joe LMB, who is the front runner of the MVP of the NBA for a second year straight, it's now heard with a tormaniscus, and yes, a tormniscus in that very knee that was already bothering him. So by the Jonathan Minga did fall on his did fall on

his knee, and they said it's his lateral meniscus. I'm no doctor, stephen A, but I don't think he tore his lateral of meniscus by Jonathan Kaminga falling.

Speaker 2

On the knee.

Speaker 3

To knee was already swelling up days leading up to our game that he played in, which is a sign of something's wrong. When you have a meniscus injury, your knee does swell. So I quite frankly am not of the assumption that Joel and Bid hurt his knee when Jonathan Kminga fell on him.

Speaker 2

I don't believe that.

Speaker 3

As I said, I'm no doctor, I didn't see any MRI and so I'm not saying that is the case. I just don't believe he tore his lateral meniscus by his leg getting smashed down to it.

Speaker 2

I don't believe that now Rick celebrated.

Speaker 3

He may say otherwise, However, that knee was already swelling up and it was already issuing that knee. So to my point, you gotta hurt player, a guy that's legitimately hurt being affected by a rule of guys. Yes, guys were sitting out, I agree, But just like the NBA can investigate anything else, they can investigate and know when someone's sitting out because they're low managing and not sitting out because they're really hurt. The NBA ain't know everything.

They can figure out everything. The NBA is like the FBI. Y'all heard Melo y'all heard Melo hose interview before. The NBA can figure things out. So don't tell me that it couldn't be. It can't be figured out when a guy is really hurt and when a guy is low managing. And that's too totally different things, because here it is we have a Joe Ellenbi being affected by actually being hurt. We talking legacy here, MVP awards. Those things don't come by often. Kevin Durant, who people regard as one of

the greatest players to ever play, has won. The MVPs are hard to come by. He has one, so Joe Ellenbiid on the Verge again his second one, and he's essentially possibly going to miss extended time because of a rule that's aimed at players resting when healthy. But he's not healthy though, Stephen Ay. So my argument was no guy should be able to low manage. I never said that. I said there's guys that's actually hurt. Tyrese Halliburton. Actually, when we saw the man do the splits, we saw

it on TV. The man did the splits, Like, WHOA, that's bad. We saw it. So you mean to tell me he's up against the same rule as everybody else. We saw it, stephen A. We watched him do the splits and get hurt. But he's been us by a rule that's aimed at stopping guys from sitting when they're healthy. And you can tell me all the older guys said this, and all the older guys said that.

Speaker 2

I got a lot of respect for them.

Speaker 3

But let's face it, man, those games were seventy to sixty seven. You scored sixty seven points in the first half, and you could be losing these days, the final scorers was seventy to sixty seven. Those teams is getting up sixty shots a game. You get up sixty shots in the game, my friend, you can ran out the gym.

Speaker 2

You get like that. Maybe they weren't even getting up sixty shots.

Speaker 3

But the game was so much story and there's so much, so many differences to how the game is actually played.

Speaker 2

Those guys weren't running like we run.

Speaker 3

They weren't walking the ball up the floor dumping it into the post.

Speaker 2

They weren't running like we run, getting up and down.

Speaker 3

All of those things make a difference, and so you you got players actually hurt and they're getting punished by a rule that was made for people sitting out when they aren't hurt.

Speaker 2

There has to be a different way to place.

Speaker 3

Or to create a criteria, because in all criteria created, there's unintentional consequences, And an unintentional consequence of this one is Joe L and B will be screwed and not win his second MVP in a row because he actually got hurt and Tyrese Holliburton is a few games away from not making all NBA because he actually got hurt.

Speaker 2

And guess what, that's an unintended consequence, stephen A. So the new.

Speaker 3

Media has spoken. The whole story is right there for you and my brother. You welcome on this podcast anytime, any day.

Speaker 2

We would love to have you.

Speaker 3

Appreciate you all for tuning in to this episode of The Draymond Green Show.

Speaker 2

That's a rap. Until next time, Peace,

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