Draymond Green Show - SHAQ

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the list goes on and on. My man, Shack, what's up, brother, I'm not talking to you and to you and dress me as my correct name. The Black Steph Curry, the Black Steph Curry. There it is. We got another one. Just like that, We got another one now, man number one. I want to say thank you, like I said, just what you've meant to me and my life from Afar.

I was just telling Travis when we was on the way over here, like I still remember the first time I ever met you in the picture we took at Staples Center and he was looking the other way, and shit.

that you play. Thank you, Thank you man. That means a lot to me. So just and getting into it. Number one, I want to ask you about your approach in TV because what I've seen is so many guys get up there and I try to be sure that I'm not doing it myself, but so many times you see guys get up there and they want to throw stones, you know, and it's specific. You get former players getting up there throwing stones at guys, acting acting as if

they weren't players. But we always say, once you're a player, you're always a player, and you get so many guys that just go up there throwing stones, not standing up for guys acting like they were perfect when they played as if they ain't ever do, and you always take the opposite approach.

I would always say you got an average twenty eight ten. I would always say you're not dominating. So hopefully he would get the message and say, fuck you, Shaq, this is what I gotta do. It's what Kareem abdu Jabard did to me. When I first got to LA I was putting up historical numbers and we was getting swept and Kareem's that one day they said, shack Man, Shacks are gonna be a great player like you. He said,

is he really that great? They're not winning and he has G fourteen classification to say that, And you know, I could have took it as a jab, like Kareem, you're just hating because I'm averaging more points to you and I make moment, But I was like, you know what, he gave me the lesson inside the criticism. So when I criticize, I just try to give the lesson. And you know, sometimes people take it the right way and sometimes people don't. But people like me and you, we

have G fourteen classification. We know what it takes to play at a certain level, and we know what it takes to win the championship four times. So a lot of times when we say something like I know what the fuck I'm talking about. So and then a lot of times I test people out, I'm motherfuckers off to see what I'm dealing with. Same thing I did the Cope, same thing I did the Penny, same thing I did to d Wade. And if you respond and turn it into greatness, I know I'm dealing with a fucking dog.

Like I jumped on Donovan one time and he kind of he kind of went, so I knew I had

to handle him with with you know, kitting gloves. But so a lot of times I try to criticize and give you the answers, and a lot of times I just try to just say something hateful just to see who you are, because again, I wouldn't want to listen to a guy like me, because you know what, the best thing I did was listen to Kareem Abdul Jabbar and he said, I'm motherfucker, he great, but he ain't that great and he ain't winning, and I'm looking up at the fucking Jerseys. I'm like, fuck, he right, I

gotta start winning, you know. So you know, I try to protect the guys as you know, much as possible, but people like us don't. We don't have to hate like we actually know what we're talking about. And you know, sometimes guys understand it and sometimes they don't. Like the other day and it went viral. I don't know why I went went went viral. Joker is my guy. I'll always talked great about Joker, right absolutely, And I said to him, I said, Joker, I want you to hear

this from me. Other people like Shannon Sharp don't get on they fucking podcast and twist and trying to make it look like I'm hating and I said, Yo, you're the best big man in the league. You're my favorite player. You're the vice president of the Big Man Alliance. However, I think SGA should have got MVP. Like when you're a man and you know you're dealing with another man, respect is a must. Like Draymond, you shouldn't have kicked them in the balls. I'm not hating. I'm just saying, bro,

they need you for the next game. You should ain't like I'm hating. So you know, so for people who don't try to understand the clarity that we have and they try to make it something different.

That ain't because of me, that's because of doctor j. He gave it to Mike Man gave it to me. I gave it to Bron. Bron gave it to y'all. Y'all about to give it to Luca Luke, about to give it to wom Beyona. So we have to make sure that you know, all these guys play at a high level and the ones that that really take it as hate, the ones that don't, that don't understand. I don't really care. You just mentioned Donovan when you said when you said he wasn't a superstar yet? Is he

a superstar now? Has he crossed that now? Because that was like two three years ago when you said that he's close and you know, as you know, there's a fine luverer between fine line between a star and a superstar close. I would like to see him dominate more. Any guy that can put up numbers anytime he wants shows me that you're a puppy, but you can be

trained to be a mean dog. You ever see a bunch of puppies and you're looking at that one puppies, that's the one you always pick because you be like, if he's aggressive right now, I could train him to be more aggressive. So like when I went at him, I made it seem like a disc but I wanted him to respond be like, Okay, watch this, because that's what all the Gretes do. I sit back and I still watch you today like I watched you when I

was a kid. Only difference is then you were playing the game of basketball and now we're all watching you crush the game of life from a business perspective, just from a legend. And everything that you do, we're watching you do it at the highest level, and I admire that. And one question that I have for you is how is it that you have stayed human?

my god. And like when I see you with people, you're immediately able to break that ice, Like how have you stayed that through the success and through all the things that are up against you, just naturally because of who you are in the way that you look. You know, when I first got drafts, I was making a lot of money and I took my mom to a restaurant. Was acting big Willie. I was acting like I was a shit and my mother was disappointed, and she said, son,

it cost you nothing to be nice. So I dropped the arrogant thing now because you know, coming from where we come from, we didn't have anything, and now I got it. So that's my world. You're gonna do what the fuck out? You know, all that attitude. She's like, it cost you nothing to be nice. And then one time I was in LA and I was at a restaurant and I saw a superstar. I'm gonna say his name, but a kid came and asked for autograph. He fucking

made the kid cry. And I always said to myself, I ever get the superstar status, I'm I always take care of the kids. My mama said, be nice, I'm going to take care of my family. Everything I do is for my family, especially my mother. You know where we played the game of basketball and they paid pay us a lot of money from two to seventeen. It hit me when I first got drafted. My mom never had her own house, and she never really had her own house. And like you know, they, you know, our parents,

they give us the basics. Be respectful, go to school, get this education, and make sure you always work hard. That was, you know, the basis for a family. So when I said to myself, you know what, I'm about to buy my mama house, right, I'm about to buy my dad the same six hundred mestadies I got. I'm about to take care of my brother. I'm about to take care of my family. Now, there's many ways to

lose that, you know, the ways to lose that. So you stay away from that and you lean towards the stuff that keeps it, you know, start businesses, you know, educate yourself on you know, financial stability or you know, financial wealth. Everything I do is for my family. And now that I have seven children, now I have to do and I have to say the right thing, good thing about me and my crew, is if I happen to get offline, they can check me. Like I did

a little AI disc record. My mom wasn't happy with that, so I'm done with it. I ain't gonna say nothing else about it. So you know, that's you know, another attribute I have as I always listen. You know, the world famous Uncle Jerome absolutely the only one that could turn my motoro like he tell you bullshiting like I used to. You know, I got tired of duncan and

go to my jump hook. So every now and then I like to shoot the fade away and I may miss, for as soon as I fucking hit one, I look at him and be like, don't nobody want to see that shit?

up to me. No need for me to be arrogant towards anybody. You know, if you approach me the wrong way, I know how to reapproach you with that same energy. But listen, I'm a nice guy. I've fulfilled all my dreams. You know, all my children hate using this word, but I have seven perfect children, like they don't give me no problems. A couple in college, a couple of graduated. Shout out to my nephew, Miles Bailey. You just graduated. I'm gonna help him get in law school. So you know,

the family is very important to me. So again, I just try to do and just try to say the right thing. You know, keep my mouth shut. I don't get into the gossip mats and all that, and I just try to make people's mouth You did the unthinkable. We've seen a couple guys attempt to do it.

they used to come out shack shack uh. Matter of fact, Marquise Daniels when I was playing with him with Boston one time. He said, Yo, man, you don't remember me, and I said no, and he showed me a picture. He was one of those kids I used to always come and get all the graph jersey and get tickets and all that.

Tell that motherfucker looked at me like, man, you back, get the fuck out my face. He looked at me like that. I had to cut grass and fucking wash car and sell lemonade and all that bullshit. And then by the time I got my one hundred and ten dollars, I was scade fifteen. I bought some thirteen. That's why

my toes all fucked. I ain't gonna show my toes on you, but that's something like I tried to squeeze those Jordan, So all that shit was going back to me, and I said, you know what, call Reebo can tell him after this, I'm gonna do my own thing. So if you look at this brand right here, and we're all creatures, creatures of our environment, Jordan has to what

jump man And this is the dunk Man. So when I was in college one time the professor said, create something that you can see being sold in the future. And you know me, shack shirt, shack draws sign suck. So I you know, I was in the marketing class, I was in business class. So I patting it the dunk make be cause that's how I dunk. I tried to put my nuts in your face. So that right here dunk Man was created in eighty nine ninety and I was going and then I was talking to my

dad about it. I was like, this shit might not work. I'm going up against these powerhouses. And he said something, He said, there's more poor people than there are rich people. I was like, shit, So, you know, I think it only worked because I was a household name.

I want the same everything. So I just tried to keep the price pointing down. And that's why I did that, because you know, it was the right thing to do, and you know, when it was it was Rebuck another person than me. Now it's just me and the shoe manufactured guy. So you know, if you could go with Walmart, who has fifty thousand doors, k Mart got that and then it was a it was a no brainer. And then you get with all these companies and they say, okay,

we don't want to shut brand. Let's say okay, so I'll just create the dunk Man brand. So dunk Man was at k Mart and Shaq was at Walmart, and I was just and I just sat back. It wasn't like you know because listen, back then when I first came in, brother, I had so much money.

okay to be the man. But at some point you want to start owning things.

I've learned more about what it is. And when I was introduced to authentic Brands Group, I was actually introduced to it by this is who Shack just partnered with.

So I'm I'm seeing all this Elvis and Marilyn Monroe shit. So I did my research and I met with two companies and I was like, hey, I want to you know, this is who I am, and this is what I built, you know, me Mike and Perry and Colin and leonnond Romanlo, this is what we built to be interested, you know, doing a partnership with it. And the first companies say, yeah, we want to buy, we want to own it. I said, oh, how much you talking?

have seven kids. You know, my kids got mad at me because I you know, I did a little speech and I was trying to be funny, but I was serious.

I didn't take the test seriously. So my uncle made me shuffle shit for two years at the horse farm, but teaching them the business of horse manure business. And I was so like he learned that, so charife was a made. I was like, this is how it works, my brother. I'm here, but only the kids can take it. Boom boom boom boom man. And that's what I'm you know,

trying to, you know, show my kids. A lot of people in your position, with the amount of wealth that you accumulated, they most people do one of two things. They passed their money only their hairs. And some people do what called ruling it from the grave, where if you die, they got for ravens that they can't get out of to protect people. Others give it away like you got these different given pleasures and different things nowadays, and they.

as form. Like you know, when I was learning business and school, I really didn't understand it until I got with a businessman and he showed me what a joint venture was. He showed me what a you know, sub chapter S corporation is. So I was like, oh, this is what it means to get education. So I just tell them, whatever it is you want to do, let me know. I'll hook you up and I'll start you off, and once you master that, we'll be on our way.

And again, I hate you nothing that that pe word, but I got I don't have no problem to none of my babies, none at all.

not saying that you show would do that. But even if you put out a clip, the ones that don't comprehend our language, that try to make it look like I'm rating them, But I'm gonna rate him because you're a good friend of nobody, and he asked me to do it. Kobe number one, he had the Master kill him in Dellity, and I like to say I help him get that because when he first came in, I put the Donovan tests on. I fuck you ain't shit, I don't shoot fuck that, and it would drive him crazy.

You know you talk about the six five six hours a day in the gym. Yeah, he did that just so he could shut me the fuck up. And I loved it because I already knew what I was gonna do. I already knew I was gonna get you twenty eight ten in the playoffs, thirty five whatever, but I needed another guy, and I always used to piss him off. You know you know this very well. I don't know how your team was, but you know for a fact, you don't have to be like this to win the championship.

You do not on the court you have to be like this, but attitudes and minute you don't have to be like that. So, you know, we used to always go at it and it was I don't want to say my fault, but I knew what the fuck I was doing because when he came in, he showed me that he wanted to be a dog. He was that puppy that was nibbling on a chair and I was like, okay, watch this, motherfuck. He ain't nah fuck, don't shoot shoot it again, motherfucker want so like he just shoot to

piss mother. And then by the time he got into itself and I kind of had to make a decision like, you know, feels like listen, let him do what he doing the fourth quarter. And once I made that decision, I was like, you know, and then we was because like, first three quarter, give me the fucking ball, let me do what I'm gonna do, let me get us in the penalty. And then because I'm not a great free throw shooter, fourth quarter, I'll step back and you do what you do. And we did that, and you know

he sacrificed. He did because he all those finals where he helped me win the championship. He damn sure could have easily got found with the MVP. But that was our plan, big dog E for the first three and the fourth I takeover And my favorite game in Indiana was our first championship where I filed out and I looked at him. I was like this, if we lose, it's all my fucking fuck, shacky, motherfucker. You want to be a rapper, you're doing movies and you ain't contentrating

on your free throws. I don't know what my percentage was, but it wasn't black Steph Curry like, so I already know if we fucking lose this series gonna be my fuck. I'm looking at Kobe, motherfucker.

got to work out from eight to twelve. So they built a little fucking gym and I got all the NBA players that run down and this motherfucker is diaming me up like crazy six seven.

you know, us losing and getting swept. These scott come to me and say, Yo, man, you gotta fucking takeover because I'm the I'm the military kid, I'm the discipline kid. Yes, sir, no, sir, whatever you say sir these Scott was like, man, fuck that, you gotta take over. So I was like, you know what, Now I'm gonna try it. Hey, man, you know who Penny Hardaway is. Yeah, we might not get him. We want the first pig we want to go with Seawe. Nowh fuck that, You're gonna have to get Penny. Yeah,

I don't know if we can get Penny. Listen, what the fuck I'm telling you right now? My dealer is up in two years. If you don't give me what I wanted to help me win this championship, I'm gonna have to look elsewhere. So me and Kenny and Uncle Jerome we have the house. We watching the draft, they draft Chris Webber. I'm fucking picking up lamps. I'm just tearing the motherfucking house upart because I'm like, these motherfuckers

didn't listen to me. They tested me. You know, because now that I put myself in charge, motherfucker, I'm in charge, you're gonna have to do the fuck I say, or else I'm gonna have to go thwirl where they're gonna let me be in charge. So I'm tearing the fucking house up and going crazy. Kenny and I'm trying to wrest me to the floor and then they say, wait, wait, the Onlando Magic make a trade with the Golden State Warriors for Penny for Chris, and I was like, oh shit, they did it.

I wasn't trying to fight. I was just asking the question. He had a look at relief like, oh, I can't say, yeah, mofuck, I got four people on me. I just took well. In the future, I'm gonna talk to my good friend Draymond. He he gonna tell me they're gonna put a motherfucker in front of me behind me. That's the fuck they're doing to me right now. What the fuck are you gonna do? Though, and he he said, okay, shack and he went off. So it's not that I'm rating them,

even though I answer you a question. I was fortunate enough to play with three of the greatest guards and Bron. Bron had so much power, Like when I got there, I've never seen a young kid with that much power and deserbingly so like he had everything in order, and it was just so and I think we could have we could have possibly went further. I don't know if you remember we were when first the whole year, Big Baby broke my thumb and I was out.

went to Boston, same thing. I thought we could have made it pretty far. But I told my Achilles, But you know, I hate rating those guys because I don't want ignorant people don't understand our language, that try to twist it up. And oh he said Coolby was better. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying all those

guys had different attributes and they were great players. Do you regret and so you went so hard for Penny, for Orlando to get Penny, do you regret leaving Orlando as soon as you did, you know, not seeing it through with Penny the whole way.

fifteen for three. I was at home one day my father smacked me in the back of the head with a paper because I was a medium level juvenile the linker. I was like you, I was a fucking football guy, so I used to like to bring that pain. So I was like, you know, and then my high school coach said, you ain't gonna make it. I ain't had no scholarships. I already had a plan to join the fucking army. I already knew the army life was a good life. On a join the army. My father smacked

the shit on me one day with a paper. Look at this and it was John Conckak. No disrespect to John, because you know I ended up playing with Johnny. He's a great fellow. And he said, hey, look at this, dude. So we got the fifteen for three. I ain't the smartest guy to where I know that's five in a year. So I'm watching John Concack play and San Antonio himis fer Arena, and I'm like, damn, I'm like this now.

So now I really started taking basketball serious. And I had a guy that I met in Germany and the name of Dale Brown. He already offered me the scholarships. Already know I'm going to LSU. So you know, my agent kept telling me how the money's gonna be a lot. So when he said, when I first got dryed how much you want? I was like, I don't know. Six melli a year. He's like, nah, man, we're gonna ask for fifty. And I was like, what he said, We're going to ask for fifty. I ended up getting forty

for seven. I think I was the first to do this. He's like, but I'm gonna put the clause in there you can do something after three after four, and I was like, okay, sounds good. So when it came back around to Orlando, now everybody was talking about one hundred million.

I want to be the first hundred million. You got a guy, it was mine, So I started high, I said, and they said no. And then here during the Olympics ninety six, me and uncle Jerome we had Magic City doing what we do a Magic City, and my agent call it's like two thirty am, said I got a call and need you to come to this hotel except for he said come. So I get there and it's the Great Jerry West and I just always saying we play leers. Never really met him, but of course I

know it is. I shake his hand, he said he want the good news to the bad news. I said, I don't want the bad news. He said, I couldn't get you to one fifty. I said, what's the good news. We can get you one twenty. But he's like, you got to sign right now. So I was like, And then I told Leonard, I said Carl Orlando. He said they they weren't even close. So hey, my mom, my mom needs a new house. Even though she didn't, that's

all I'm thinking about. So I went that. So even though I always think about what me and Penny could have done, it's not a decision I regret because when it comes to family and it comes to making decisions, I make the decision as a leader, as a general, and if it happened to be the wrong decision, that's something that I can live with. You said something when you were just discussing Kobe, Uh, you were discussing Kobe,

what y'all did in the fourth quarter? You said, quarters one through three, I dominate, and then we let Kobe take over in the fourth. And I recently was just on Instagram, maybe a week ago and not even a week ago, and Gilbert Arenez on his podcast was talking about Joker and saying, you know, when it's time to get a bucket, the ball always go to Jamal Murray towards the end of the game.

Joker is really good and Jamal is really good. That's just the way that their team is set up up. When it comes to the most Valuable Player, I always thought it meant the baddest mother fucking the league, like your guy who made history which should have been my history, the most dominant, I mean, the unanimous MVP. He's the baddest motherfucker in the league. I don't give a fuck what your record is, what where you all at one through eight? He's the badest mother fucking league. That's the

most viable player. To me, I don't understand what the classifications are best player on the best team. We as players, we know who the baddest motherfucker is. We know who the strongest is, we know who the better we know you know, all these voters sometimes they just sometimes they just get with their favorites and they stick with their favorites.

I don't know what the fucking criteria is. So you know what, I think the point that you know giber was trying to make is, Okay, if he's the baddest guy, why is he getting the ball? Sometimes you got to do that. Like, you know, Shannon Sharp said something the other day, Oh, Shaq wasn't the best player on the team.

say what you want. If you don't, I ain't gonna let you like I'm I'm you know, sometimes people take our niceness for granted. And I'm big on G fourteen classification. So I don't have a problem with what Gilbert said. He's been there, he's done that, he was with us. I understand that. But you know, all opinions are subjective. You either agree or you disagree. Ronald, we have now in this world. As somebody say something you don't like it, you want to take it and put it in anything.

Just that's cool too, but just make you sure you have that G fourteen classification. And G fourteen classification gets you in the building. We have ranks me and you have the highest fucking ranks me, you, Steph Cole Magic were on the top on the fucking floor. A lot of guys are in the building, but they don't have the same you know, right to say certain things as we do. But again I'll have a problem with I do even have a problem with he said where I

hate all centers, I don't hate all senters. I never said anything bad about Joker. I just think they they thought I was trying to be funny when I told him, I said, no, I want you to hear from me first, joker, and I'm telling you like a man, You my guy, I love you. But as she ay, she got an MVP that I ain't know this. But again I did it, and I slowed it down so people can understand that. And I even add, hey, this is no disrespect to you, and they still take it and twist it. And all

shack hates all big men. Don't hate all big men. I hate all big men that don't play like fucking big man. That's what I hate. A couple more questions before we get out of here. The modern day big joker. Uh, you know those guys Joel Wimby, I'm jealous of them. Why wish I could step out and shoot the three brother?

You know why I call myself black Stuff Curry Because if I go to the gym and miss one hundred and ninety fucking threes and make one on the black Stuff Curry, that shit fucking feel good to step out and shoot that three bro. But again, you gotta understand about me jealous. When I'm jealous, I'm not envious. I'm jealous to fucking motivate me. So every now and then I go out there and try to Clay Thompson my shit, and just you know, I built the corporate I just

go out there and try to shoot. I'm jealous of them because I wish I was allowed to do that. You know, back then I would every now and then take and go coast to coach, the coach and looking at me crazy. So they're they're allowed to do it. Indeed, is a mixture of me in the post and a chemo ije run outside and joker he's man. I was trying to figure who he reminded me of. I was thinking a little brad Daughtery, a little Sabonis in the eighty four land, Like his game is just nice, and

I like people that play at that pace. I asked you about Luca one time. I was like, he's really that nice, and he was like, yeah, the motherfucker's strong and he played at his pace. So I really like those guys. Any other big wom Bigianna's is different. He's he's he's he's thin, but like he he does some stuff. He's he's he's really different. As the president of the

Big man alliance. I really like those three guys. Any other big guys, I'm not really feeling so when he say I hate all big men, I don't hate all big men. Just don't like the big men that don't play like big men. Do you think there would be any benefit to Joel at times saying oh, you know what I'm and I'm channeling my inner shock right now

for fuck shack, just play, just play the odds. If I got a guy six seven on me, I'm not shooting no jumper, even if I know how to shoot the jumper one, I'm gonna try to get him in foul trouble, get my team in a penalty, and the percentages go up when you move closer to the basket. It's just so you know why you want to drive between your legs and shoot jumpers, like when listen, when it goes in, looks pretty, but when it doesn't go off and playoff situations, you're going to have to live

with that. Oh you're the only MVP who never made out the first round, and I know guys don't want to live with that. So I just want him to just you know, play, play, play to his ability, Like if you got another agile, big guy. You take him out and you go around them. But anybody that's smaller than you, you got to go on the post and then go to work. And then once they w you make it easier for Maxie actually a good player. But if he don't have to work as hard, I think

he can. I think he can be a lot better like Maxie was doing it. And he's younger than that. But I wanted to make the game easy for Penny, Kobe and d Way.

the world. Yes, but you guys can be yourself and we make fun of people. We crack jokes, We do a lot of stuff. Because you also have to realize I have to watching two games. Good games are bad games.

producer there. He's like, we don't want you follow that shit. Just talk about your experiences, talk about what you know. And he said, he said, people know you know what you're talking about because you did it. Because you did it. And uh so they just you know told me to just you know, be myself. I wish I could talk more. Charles is good at fucking talking, and then when you

supposed to fucking rotate, he'll say something. And that's why I snapped on his I said, Yo, motherfucker one two three and not one two and back to the motherfucking one. He like cutting motherfuckers off, repeating hisself like, like, bro, you said that ship. I've been here twelve years. You say the same shit every year, Chris Paul the grizzly motherfucker, we heard that say something different.

knock him up. So in college and even in the league. So we're playing in Houston one day, Charles is older. The motherfucker hit me in the head with the ball. I can't let that shake slide. I can't go back to any barbershop, any motherfucking crib.

my mom and Charles mom on the phone. They's like, y'all, shit be doing. I was like, who's this. She's like, my mom, check, this is Charles mom. So you know when it's mom. Even though I'm mad at him, I ain't gonna be like fucking yes, ma'am, y'all stop that ship. I don't already talk to Charles, y'all, y'all that shit out. And you know she she was not ghetto, but she was.

thirty years. Crazy. Yeah, So one time I seen them playing cards. It's the same shit, me and Charles. Do you know know I'm playing no motherfucking state like they. But it's respectful. So even though we argue, I know, as a man you can't disrespect another man. I think like men that have the same principles, you can talk to each other same way. Like my little guy over there, that's my cousin. We grow up together. We fight every fucking day, but we don't disrespect each other. And the

fact that we don't disrespect each other. You can say that you got to say. I'll say what I gotta say. So you know, I'm never mad at him to the point where I wanted to beat him up, because one my mom would be upset. His mom passed away. She was so nice my mom, she would be upset. So even if he said something crazy, I know you not disrespect me. I know it's just Charles. I'll just let it go before we get out of here. Obviously, Yes, you know, I think you know, being one of the

most successful businessmen to come through the NBA. You know, we see Junior Bridgeman magic, you know, and you have put yourself in that category, you guys, So you understand business you guys have had and I'm honored to grace the stage with you all whenever I get the opportunity. But what you guys have built at inside the NBA, it has been special. Business is business. And there's a TV deal coming up with the possibility of turn or not,

you know, having broadcasting rights. That is a possibility if that's to happen. Everybody wants to know what happens with this crew. You know, you guys, you four guys like it's the Premier show. When it comes to NBA basketball, what happens with this group from your perspective of how do you see that. I don't like to think left, which is negative. I don't like to think right. I do like to think what it is. So until we hear what it is, I don't know. I'm glad. I

have different options to fall back home. But you know, when I go left, it's just it starts to get sad, like damn oh, Ernie, no Chuck, no Kenny. Then when I think right, it's a lot of other possibilities. So great possibilities, but right now I'm gonna just stay in the middle. And you brought up a name. Junior Bridgeman was another guy who I'm jealous of. I remember one time I'm walking through the airport and I saw the ten richest athletes. It was a time article. I was like, mo, fuck,

I'm number two. I ain't fucking with Mike, but shit, I'm number mother fucking too magic maybe number two, so fucking I'm number three.

Auto American game. I met Dick Vatael was like, hello, missus, Dick Vytail. He's like, and you are so this motherfucker. I don't know who I am. Oh shit, and everybody's sucking off Kenny and Jimmy Jackson, all these motherfuckers. I said, okay, motherfucker. So I told misterout, I said, you don't know me yet, but tomorrow at twelve thirty, the whole world on my guy.

So that that shit motivated me. So I'm looking at Junior Berid, I'm like, fuck, it's my fucker on all this shit, and I just I just it just makes me makes me work harder because we like stories. I like to open that Time magazine and see Shack two three big like, so I'm not there yet, but I think I'm working, you know, to a way to get there. So I just want to tell athletes it's okay to be jealous at the time, but just make sure you use that as motivation and not hate. Big fellow, I

appreciate you man, see about seeing about thirty minutes. Yes, Sir, Draymond Green Show and y'all wouldn't have beat us in the finals.