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The Defiant

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The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.
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Episodes

Making Magic - A Defiant Love Story with Robin Schmidt & Alp Gasimov

We have a special podcast episode this week — a live conversation between Defiant founder Camila, our head of video Robin , and our editor Alp , recorded directly from The Defiant’s video studio in the Netherlands. Robin and Alp were one of the very first team members working with Camila in making the best DeFi and web3 content out there. In this episode we hear their story, how they came to work together and what moves them. We also go behind the scenes on their intense production process and s...

Apr 12, 20221 hr 1 minSeason 9Ep. 13

Cosmos Co-Founder Ethan Buchman on Building an Internet of Sovereign Blockchains

Ethan Buchman is the co-founder of Cosmos , an ecosystem of interoperable blockchains which includes Terra, Osmosis and Crypto.org, and has the most value locked after Ethereum. It's a complex network with many moving parts, and in the past year it has exploded with activity. Cosmos was born out of Ethan’s research into a switch from proof of work to proof of stake, and his idea to enable each project and community to be able to build and secure their own blockchain. It was Ethan’s goal to bring...

Apr 04, 20221 hr 5 minSeason 9Ep. 12

🎙 Blockchange Ventures' Ken Seiff: Betting on Crypto's Base Layer and a Multi-Chain Future

Ken Seiff is the managing partner of Blockchange Ventures , one of the longest-standing venture funds focusing on early-stage blockchain startups. One of his very first forays into crypto was as one of the investors in Ethereum’s token sale, as I describe in my book, The Infinite Machine. He went on to focus on various other Layer 1s at Blockchange, investing in Polkadot, Solana, Near and Flow, among others. Ken’s investments look to capture not just the potential value of the venture itself, bu...

Mar 28, 20221 hr 8 minSeason 9Ep. 11

Gitcoin's Kevin Owocki on Fueling Public Goods Funding for the Ethereum Nation

Kevin Owocki is the founder of Gitcoin , which helps coordinate crowdfunding for projects and software developments on the Ethereum blockchain. With 300,000 builders and over 25,000 funders, Gitcoin has become a key pillar of the Ethereum nation, making sure public goods can thrive. We talk about how Gitcoin was born as a reaction to the ICO era, after Kevin realized many of the business models and funding mechanisms on Ethereum were broken. Open-source software is carrying a huge weight, while ...

Mar 21, 202259 minSeason 9Ep. 10

Fabian Vogelsteller, father of the ERC20 Standard, on the Shift from Blockchain Addresses to Social Profiles with Lukso

Fabian Vogelsteller is a Blockchain veteran who was part of the Ethereum community in its very early days. He helped shape the Ethereum space, building an ETH Wallet and a web3 Browser, which were one of the first of their kind. Fabian is the co-founder of the Lukso blockchain and together with Vitalik Buterin, created the ERC-20 standard, a foundational building block for Ethereum. The next standard Fabian is excited about is ERC725, which he says will help introduce blockchain-based profiles a...

Mar 14, 20221 hr 5 minSeason 9Ep. 9

Laura Shin on Solving Ethereum's Greatest Mystery with Her New Book, The Cryptopians

In this week’s episode of The Defiant podcast, we speak to Laura Shin , the former senior editor at Forbes and host of the popular podcast Unchained, about her new book ‘ The Cryptopians : Idealism, Greed, Lies, and the Making of the First Big Cryptocurrency Craze.’ In Cryptopians, Laura may have solved Ethereum’s biggest mystery; the identity of the DAO hacker. In this interview, she goes into the backstory of how she came up with the most credible suspect to date. Thanking our podcast sponsors...

Mar 07, 202254 minSeason 9Ep. 8

Polkadot's Gavin Wood on Building a Layer 0 to Underpin the Entire Blockchain-Based Economy

Gavin Wood ’s crypto journey started with Ethereum – he was one of the eight original founders and the project’s CTO in the early days. Today though, he’s busy building Polkadot , a chain that is attempting to improve where Ethereum falls short. Gavin wants to turn Polkadot into a multichain powerhouse where financial systems and web apps can run and interact seamlessly. To Gavin, Polkadot can be the base infrastructure for a web3 future, a set of technologies that can guarantee privacy, trustle...

Feb 28, 20221 hr 11 minSeason 9Ep. 7

Sovryn's Edan Yago on Building Bitcoin DeFi; Slower Growth But Strongest Foundation

Edan Yago is a co-founder of Sovryn , a Bitcoin-based lending protocol. He’s maybe the first Bitcoin builder we have had on our show and that’s because DeFi on the first blockchain network has been slow to pick up — but Edan says that’s about to change. Ethereum and other smart contracts platforms have evolved over time with use cases like tokens, DAO’s and NFTs flourishing. Meanwhile, Bitcoin has mainly looked from the sidelines. Edan says there has been a gradual mentality shift, as Bitcoiners...

Feb 21, 20221 hr 7 minSeason 9Ep. 6

Vitalik Buterin on Building a Base Layer for the Global Economy Without Compromising on Decentralization

Vitalik Buterin wrote the Ethereum white paper when he was just 19. His aim was simple yet comprehensive, to create a ‘world computer’ that was designed to be a flexible base layer for all online applications without the need of any third party. Since its inception in 2015, Ethereum has become the most active and largest smart contracts platform, but has it achieved the ‘world computer’ goal? Vitalik says yes and no. In the interview, it’s clear that to him, it’s almost a given that Ethereum wil...

Feb 14, 20221 hr 32 minSeason 9Ep. 5

Giveth's Griff Green: Super-Charging Public Goods and Charity With Crypto

Griff Green is one of the co-founders of Giveth , which aims to build the future of charity using the Ethereum blockchain. It wants to become the gateway for non-profit organizations into web3, giving them the tools to grow their own communities via DAOs and crypto. The primary source of revenue for any non-profit organization is donations, but relying on individuals giving voluntarily can limit their impact, Griff says. He argues a system that better aligns incentives can allow non-profits to h...

Feb 07, 20221 hr 9 minSeason 9Ep. 4

AVAX's Emin Gun Sirer Says Blockchains Should be Scalable at Their Core; Layer 2s Mean Giving Up

When Emin Gun Sirer first came on The Defiant in May 2020, Avalanche was not even on mainnet yet. Since then, it has risen to become one of the leading smart contract networks, while the AVAX token has risen over 7x in the last 12 months. We talk about how the project got here and how it wants to create a path for faster and more scalable decentralized network, amid heavy competition from other Layer 1 blockchains. Emin makes the case for Avalache’s novel consensus mechanism, paired with subnets...

Feb 03, 20221 hr 14 minSeason 9Ep. 3

Synthetix's Kain Warwick: What it Takes to Scale an Ethereum DeFi Protocol

This week, we sit with Kain Warwick , DeFi OG and founder of Synthetix . In some ways, last year wasn’t a great one for the synthetic assets protocol. As many DeFi projects boomed, SNX’s price and TVL dropped. Kain says he was too optimistic about how soon Synthetix would be able to scale with optimistic roll-ups. If he were to do things again, he would probably use Polygon first and move to Optimism once the solution was ready. But last year was also a time to build on a strong foundation. He’s...

Jan 24, 20221 hr 27 minSeason 9Ep. 2

Behind the Scenes of The Defiant with Robin and Camila

Welcome back to The Defiant podcast! After a brief break at the end of last year, we’re back stronger and better than ever to continue chatting with the greatest and brightest minds in DeFi and web3. Our first guest is our very own Robin Schmidt, aka SuperMassive . Robin leads multimedia at the Defiant and produces our video content, which has become known for raising the bar way beyond what’s expected not just from crypto videos, but from all of YouTube. If you haven’t already, check out and su...

Jan 17, 20221 hr 26 minSeason 9Ep. 1

Nick Johnson of ENS: "We Want to be the Naming System for Every Digital Resource in the World"

In this week’s episode I speak with Nick Johnson , founder and lead developer of Ethereum Name Service, or ENS . Nick talks about the journey of ENS, from an internal project within the Ethereum Foundation, to spinning off to become a public good for Ethereum and other blockchains, and recently decentralizing and becoming a DAO controlled by token holders. Nick talks about the big vision of ENS, which is to become the naming service for every digital resource in the world. Thanking our sponsors:...

Nov 29, 20211 hrSeason 8Ep. 6

Geoff Cook on Building a Crypto Name: "The Strongest Brands Compete on Emotion"

In this week’s episode I speak with Geoff Cook, co-founder of Base , a design studio with huge clients from all industries, including The New York Times, MoMA, ING Bank and large-scale projects like JFK’s Terminal 4 and the Meatpacking District in New York. Geoff hopes to soon add crypto to the list. He recently wrote an article stating that "For Crypto, Branding Could be the Highest Currency ” as the success of these projects will rely on communicating complex concepts and features to gain mass...

Nov 22, 202156 minSeason 8Ep. 5

Nadya of Pussy Riot: "We Can Be Truly Unstoppable if We Combine Our Ideals With Tools that Crypto Provides"

In this week’s episode I, speak with Nadya Tolokonnikova , one of the founding members of the feminist punk rock protest collective, Pussy Riot . Nadya has been protesting against the repression of individual freedoms in Russia since she was 17. She started Pussy Riot to focus on women and non-binary people as she noticed leadership would always fall on men. The group started performing in the streets of Moscow and were being repeatedly arrested for a few hours at a time, until one day in 2012, ...

Nov 15, 202139 minSeason 8Ep. 4

Zeneca: "The Market is Fed Up With the Same Sorts of NFT Projects and There's a Flight to Gaming NFTs"

Zeneca is an NFT investor and content creator who grew his collection of non-fungible tokens from 0 to about 3,000 pieces worth millions in less than a year. He comes on the podcast to talk about how he went from professional poker player to full-time NFT trader, and what lessons from poker he has brought over to crypto.Zeneca believes the NFT market has hit a downturn amid rising crypto prices because it has become saturated with the same types of projects. He believes avatars will take a back ...

Nov 08, 20211 hr 8 minSeason 8Ep. 3

Eric Wall of Arcane Assets: "Bitcoiners Protect BTC Against 'Shitcoinism' But They're Also Keeping it From Valid Technical Ideas"

In this week’s episode I speak with Eric Wall , chief investment officer at Arcane Assets . He used to be known as the Altcoin Slayer, thanks to his brutal takedowns of non-bitcoin tokens in the 2017 ICO era, which made him popular among Bitcoin maximalists. But he’s not a maximalist anymore, and sees value in other blockchains as he has recognized they can fulfill use cases that Bitcoin can’t. He even argues Bitcoin risks being overtaken by Ethereum if it doesn’t adopt some ETH’s own features a...

Nov 02, 20211 hr 25 minSeason 8Ep. 2

🎙 Scoopy Trooples of Alchemix: "Liquidity Mining is Like a Drug; You Have to Wean Yourself Off Over Time"

In this week’s episode I speak with Scoopy Trooples , founder of Alchemix , a protocol that programs self-paying loans without the risk of liquidations. Think about that; here’s a DeFi application that promises to automatically pay users’ collateralized loans, and on top of that, guarantee they won’t be liquidated. Scoopy explains how something like that can work and it’s all about plugging into other money legos like Yearn Finance to earn yield off that collateral and use that yield to pay off ...

Oct 25, 20211 hr 11 minSeason 8Ep. 1

Braintrust's Adam Jackson: “Nike is in Crypto Now and They May Not be Fully Aware”

In this week’s episode, I interview Adam Jackson , co-founder of Braintrust , a user-owned talent network. Think Fiverr for web3. Braintrust runs on Ethereum, has thousands of users, household names like NASA, TaskRabbit, Nike and Nestlé are clients, it has processed millions of dollars, yet not many people in the crypto community have heard of it. And it may be by design, as the team has focused on building the platform looking outside of crypto. Adam believes the so-called gig economy is broke...

Oct 18, 20211 hr 3 minSeason 7Ep. 10

"NFTs Gave Me a Sense of Security and Economic Stability I Never Felt Before:" WoW Creator Yam Karkai

In this week’s episode I speak with Yam Karkai , the digital illustrator and artist behind NFT project World of Women . She’s had all sorts of odd jobs, before becoming a full-time illustrator, and none of them had anything to do with crypto. She was freelancing from gig to gig when she discovered NFTs this year and that’s when everything changed for her. For the first time ever, she had some economic stability, oddly thanks to volatile crypto. Thanking our sponsors: Balancer, one of the leading...

Oct 11, 202156 minSeason 7Ep. 9

"Wall Street Bets Taught Me to Have Faith in the Collective Intelligence:" WSB Founder Jaime Rogozinski

In this week’s episode, I interview Jaime Rogozinski , founder of Wall Street Bets , the famous Reddit trading group which earlier this year organized to push up the price of heavily shorted stocks like Gamestop and AMC to create a short squeeze, which had the double benefit of amplifying the group’s gains and screwing over big hedge funds. Jaime goes over what led him to create the subreddit back in 2012 and how it grew into several thousands and then millions of members. He started Wall Street...

Oct 04, 20211 hr 10 minSeason 7Ep. 8

"ETH and most DeFi is Trading Cheaper Than Web2 and With Better Growth:” VanEck's Matthew Sigel

In this week’s episode we speak with Matthew Sigel , head of digital asset research at VanEck , an asset management firm overseeing $80 billion, which has shifted its focus heavily into crypto. They started out with investments almost exclusively in Bitcoin, but now, with Matthew on board, the firm is becoming increasingly bullish on Ethereum and DeFi. Matthew has a very methodical way of analyzing cryptocurrencies, applying the same rigorous methods used in traditional finance, and so it become...

Sep 20, 20211 hr 9 minSeason 7Ep. 7

"There's Going to Be a DeFi Universe Geared Towards Non-Fungible Assets:" NFTfi's Stephen Young

In this week’s episode I speak with Stephen Young , the founder and CEO of NFTfi , a platform for enabling NFT-backed loans. For some people, decentralized finance and nonfungible tokens sit on two separate worlds; DeFi on one end with its different lending, boring, and trading applications, and NFTs, with their digital art, music royalties and collectibles. Entrepreneurs like Stephen sit at the intersection, with a platform that uses NFTs to provide a financial product. He says volume on the pl...

Sep 14, 202143 minSeason 7Ep. 6

"NFTs are Giving Way to The First Art Revolution Since the Internet:" SuperRare's John Crain

In this week’s episode, I speak with John Crain , the co-founder & CEO of SuperRare , one of the top NFT marketplaces. SuperRare wants to differentiate itself by being the NFT marketplace that best curates art, specifically. John believes the natural evolution for NFT platforms will be to specialize in verticals. The team recently launched a token and a DAO, and John explains how the move will be instrumental for SuperRare to scale its curation, as the original team gives up control and othe...

Sep 06, 20211 hr 2 minSeason 7Ep. 5

"I Realized We Could Scale Play-to-Earn to Impact Thousands, Hopefully Millions of Lives:" YGG's Gabby Dizon

In this week’s episode, I speak with Gabby Dizon , co-founder of Yield Guild Games, or YGG. Long before Gabby was into crypto he was into gaming, and that’s how he started playing Axie Infinity, a blockchain-based game where players earn cryptocurrency just for playing. Gabby eventually became a well-known figure in the Axie community, spreading the word especially in his home country, the Philippines, as he saw that crypto earned for playing was making a real difference in people’s lives. Thank...

Aug 30, 202152 minSeason 7Ep. 4

"There's Been a Zero-to-One Switch for Institutions and Crypto:" Pantera's Dan Morehead

In this week’s episode, we speak with Dan Morehead , the founder of one of the longest-standing and largest crypto funds. Dan founded Pantera Capital in 2003 as a global macro hedge fund. In 2013, Pantera began investing in Bitcoin and quickly shifted its entire focus into crypto. Today, Pantera manages $3.8 billion in digital assets and equity in blockchain companies. Dan said Pantera is planning on increasing the Bitcoin exposure on its liquid tokens fund from zero to somewhere in the teens, w...

Aug 23, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 7Ep. 3

"There is No Political Voice to the Millions of Crypto Users in the US:" Ryan Selkis

In this week’s episode we speak with Ryan Selkis , CEO and founder of Messari , one of the most popular crypto data and research companies. Recently, Ryan has been very vocal about crypto regulation in the US. We talk about how he believes the infrastructure bill was a catalyzing event for the whole American crypto ecosystem. He believes while there are think tanks and corporate-led lobbying groups, the space is missing a grassroots entity that gives a voice to the millions of crypto users in th...

Aug 16, 20211 hr 6 minSeason 7Ep. 2

"We're Not Really at an Inflection Point Yet:" OpenSea's Nate Chastain

In this week’s episode we interview Nate Chastain , head of product at OpenSea. Opensea got its start back in 2017 when CryptoKitties launched on Ethereum. After those digital cats, the NFT space was pretty dead for the next couple of years. Now OpenSea is reaping the rewards of hanging through that NFT winter, as NFT summer explodes with punks, apes, penguins and more cats. Nate was openSea’s first product hire and now he’s making sure that what started out as a platform for essentially CryptoK...

Aug 09, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 7Ep. 1

"We Get to Tell Future Pixar Animators They Can Quit Their Jobs and Come Build With NFTs:" Stoner Cats Team

In this week’s episode, I speak with some of the creators and investors behind Stoner Cats , the NFT-infused adult cartoon show about a group of cats who become sentient from their owner’s marihuana. And there are famous humans behind these cats, Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin is one, and Jane Fonda is another. Ashton Kutcher’s VC fund is also involved. With all these big names, there was huge anticipation around this NFT sale -- so much, that the demand made Ethereum gas prices spike, so that...

Aug 02, 20211 hr 2 minSeason 6Ep. 10
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