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The Defiant

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The internet of money is being built with blockchain technology and without banks. We call it DeFi, short for Decentralized Finance, and this is where you can hear the builders and users of this cutting edge world tell their stories first hand. Hosted by Camila Russo.
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Episodes

"I'm Not an Enemy of DeFi; I Want People to Know About Anything That Goes Against DeFi as a Tool for Financial Liberty:" Chris Blec

In this week’s episode, I interview Chris Blec , a researcher advocating for transparency in DeFi. He was first drawn to cryptocurrencies through Bitcoin. He decided to go into crypto full time, first consulting with a token project in the ICO days, and later, in late 2019, by creating a YouTube channel where he aimed to educate users on how DeFi projects work under the hood. Here is where he came across what has become his focus since; the actual centralization behind supposedly decentralized p...

Jul 26, 20211 hr 15 minSeason 6Ep. 9

“The Biggest, Clearest Bet of All is Ethereum:" Raoul Pal

In this week’s episode I interview Raoul Pal , who retired from the hedge fund world at 36 years old and has run financial media company Real Vision for the seven years since. He predicted the housing bubble, he was early to call the devastating effect the pandemic would have on the economy, and now he gives us his thoughts on what he sees is coming up in the next few months. Raoul believes the second half of 2021 will be worse than expected, but that the decline will be short-lived thanks to ev...

Jul 19, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 6Ep. 8

"It's Almost Like EIP-1559 Fixes an Economic Bug in Ethereum; More Usage Can Now Capture More Value:" Tim Beiko

In this week’s episode we speak with Tim Beiko , who organizes the Ethereum core developers calls and knows all the intricacies and latest development of the world’s most active blockchain. We spoke right after Beiko had proposed a date for the implementation of one of the biggest changes expected to happen to the Ethereum blockchain in recent history EIP 1559. If you’re not 100% clear on what this means, fear not, because Tim explains in non-dev terms exactly how this change will reduce volatil...

Jul 12, 20211 hr 9 minSeason 6Ep. 7

"V3 is Winding Back a Bit of the Uniswap Revolution; It's Going to be Very Influential:" Dan Robinson

In this week’s episode we speak with Dan Robinson , a research partner at Paradigm , one of the most active VC funds in DeFi and crypto. One of the fund’s investments is Unsiwap, where Dan also had a central role in the design of v3, the latest version of DeFi’s most popular decentralized exchange. Dan talks about why Uniswap was so exciting as an investment, and about what drove the change to v3. He believes the new design will impact DeFi and crytpo, while rolling back the very revolution Unis...

Jul 02, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 6Ep. 6

"There Will be Billion-Dollar Communities on the Internet:” Jess Sloss

In this week’s episode we speak with Jess Sloss , the instigator of Seed Club , a DAO that builds and invests in community tokens. We talk about the emergence of the social token economy, and how that’s different from the creator economy or the gig economy; the difference is that social tokens and DAOs allow individuals to create wealth rather than create revenue. They’re tools for creators, and importantly, also for creator’ fans, to build something that’s similar to equity in a company, instea...

Jun 25, 20211 hr 3 minSeason 6Ep. 5

"VCs Typically Treat Community as an Afterthought; That's Wrong:" Soona Amhaz

In this week’s episode, I speak with Soona Amhaz of Volt Capital. Soona saw the value of crypto from very close when her family lost most of their savings after Lebanon’s currency crashed. She immediately told them to move their money to Bitcoin to protect themselves against further currency devaluation and currency controls. She was working on a startup as an engineer while trying to learn about bitcoin and onboard others into the space, and she realized there was very little information about ...

Jun 18, 202159 minSeason 6Ep. 4

"Having Legal Tender in a Currency You Cannot Control Means You Cannot Print Problems Away:" Mariano Conti

In this week’s episode I speak with Mariano Conti , the former head of smart contracts at MakerDAO. Mariano knows the value of having permissionless and uncensorable currencies first hand —he started earning in Bitcoin in 2014 in Argentina because pesos would instantly lose value and it was hard to get dollars. When he learned about Ethereum he went all in and started working at Makerdao before DeFi was even a thing in 2016. When Dai was created, he was one of the first to take out a collaterali...

Jun 11, 20211 hr 3 minSeason 6Ep. 3

"Everyone Can be Rich in Crypto; There are no Divine Rights:" Terry Crews

In this week’s episode, I speak with Terry Crews, a legit star. He was a professional football player, has starred in multiple Hollywood films and currently leads in TV shows including America’s Got Talent. He is also a cryptocurrency enthusiast, minting his own social token called POWER. Terry has a very powerful story on how he got into crypto. It was at a design show in Milan. He wanted to support his friend at the show, but wasn’t able to withdraw money from his own American Express account....

Jun 04, 20211 hr 6 minSeason 6Ep. 2

"The Bull Market is Intact for the Next 10 to 20 Years; We are in a Secular Shift:" Arca's Jeff Dorman

In this week’s episode, I interview Jeff Dorman, chief investment officer at Arca, an investment management firm focusing on digital assets. Jeff has been valuing assets for the past 20 years, from investment-grade bonds, to high-yield debt and equities, and now he’s doing the same for crypto. We talk about the recent selloff and he thinks the big crash is over but that doesn’t mean we’ve seen the market bottom. Still, Jeff says this is a buying opportunity and he gives insights into which secto...

May 28, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 6Ep. 1

"Blockchains are Adding Property Rights to the Internet:" Kayvon Tehranian

In this week’s episode I interview Kayvon Tehranian , founder & CEO of Foundation , a platform for minting, buying and selling non-fungible tokens. We talked about the future of the internet —Kayvon believes blockchains are adding property rights to the internet. He also thinks that instead of having to wait for old institutions to come online, new ones in the form of decentralized autonomous organizations, or DAOS, will be built. He foresees a future when a lot of people will start saying, ...

May 21, 20211 hr 4 minSeason 5Ep. 10

"Ethereum is About Six Months Away from Proof-of-Stake:" Preston Van Loon

In today’s episode , we interview Preston Van Loon . Preston co-founded Prysmatic Labs, one of the main teams building Ethereum 2.0, and has been leading that team for the past three years. On top of that, he recently founded a DeFi project which bundles the entire crypto market cap in one token to allow anyone to easily buy something like a crypto index. Preston talks about the latest in ETH2 —he says Etheruem’s big migration into its proof-of-stake chain is about six months away, give or take ...

May 14, 20211 hr 7 minSeason 5Ep. 9

"Identity is The One Vulnerability Being Exploited Across All Systems. It’s the Mother of All Battles:" Santiago Siri

In this week’s podcast we interview Santiago Siri , who has been working on improving the way democracy works for over a decade. He started from the inside, co-founding a political party in Argentina, his home country, but realized traditional politics would change him before he could change politics. So he started building better representation for the new world and founded Democracy Earth Foundation . It’s worth noting, that he’s been hacked by communists two times in the process. Big thanks t...

May 10, 20211 hr 1 minSeason 5Ep. 8

"We Said Let's Start With Uniswap and See What We Can Unbundle:" Pranay Mohan of Hashflow

In this week’s episode, we talk with Varun Kumar and Pranay Mohan from Hashflow , a new decentralized exchange that wants to unbundle Uniswap. What this means is, they want to keep the non-custodial side and the liquidity pools, but instead of finding prices with smart contacts and a formula, they use market makers applying their highly specialized strategies and algorithms behind the scenes. Anyone can become a market maker, and some may open their pools so that others will be able to share the...

Apr 30, 20211 hr 13 minSeason 5Ep. 7

"We're Lifting Barriers For Outside Users; If You Allocate Capital in a Vacuum, It's Kind of Meaningless:" Terra's Do Kwon

In this week’s episode, we interview Do Kwon , cofounder of the Terra ecosystem which includes a payments network, a stablecoin, a lending protocol and a synthetic assets platform. We talk about how he was able to achieve what most crypto companies can’t which is to get a broad non-crypto native user base. Terra’s Chai payments system, which uses the Terra stablecoin, has about 2.6M active users in Korea. Kwon says there’s so much money to be made without bringing new people in, that many develo...

Apr 16, 20211 hr 8 minSeason 5Ep. 6

"It's Not About Fighting for People Already in DeFi, But About Bringing More People In:" SushiSwap's 0xMaki

In this week's episode we interview 0xMaki, an anonymous DeFi developer contributing to SushiSwap and Yearn Finance protocols. We talk about growing Sushi beyond its drama-filled beginnings as a fork of Uniswap, into a DEX that can hold its own as the second-most active trading platform in Ethereum DeFi. He goes into the main pieces that set SushiSwap apart with its margin trading and a soon-to-be-released smart contract suite to easily launch tokens. He says, it’s short-sighted for DEX competit...

Apr 09, 20211 hr 3 minSeason 5Ep. 5

"Collector DAOs Are Going to be a Game-Changer For The NFT Space:" pplpleasr

In this week’s episode we talk with the DeFi artist of the moment. Pplpleasr got into DeFi drawn in by the crazy yields but really stayed when she resonated with the community —the gaming-like, niche subculture of memes and internet-native humor. She started making videos for many DeFi teams, from Yeran to Pickle Finance. Her latest and best-known work though is the video she made for the highly anticipated v3 of Uniswap. The clip of a unicorn in an otherworldly oasis, Ethereum dapp symbols floa...

Apr 02, 20211 hr 2 minSeason 5Ep. 4

"I Try to Tell People About DeFi; It Will Come Here and Completely Flatten You:" Jim Bianco

Jim Bianco has decades of experience as a macro markets researcher. He's been leading his firm Bianco Research since 1990 and was at UBS and Lehman Brothers before that. It was after installing MetaMask, and doing some yield farming and NFT investing, that he realized, DeFi is a new financial system, and it will replace the old one. And the reason is simple: it’s just better. He has carefully brought this up to his clients, but it’s been tough. Those that don’t underestimate open finance, are wa...

Mar 26, 20211 hr 6 minSeason 5Ep. 3

"People Are Seeing The Writing on The Wall; DEXs Will Rule Crypto:" dYdX's Antonio Juliano

In this week’s episode we speak with Antonio Juliano, founder and CEO of dYdX , one of the biggest decentralized exchanges on Ethereum, focusing on derivatives. dYdX recently made news by being one of the first major DeFi projects to move to Layer 2 . One of the main goals for his team this year will be to further decentralize dYdX, Juliano said, from the order book to the control of their smart contracts. So yes, for those reading between the lines, that means decentralized governance, and Juli...

Mar 19, 202159 minSeason 5Ep. 2

"I Don't Think We're in a Bubble. We Had a Bubble in ‘17; Now We're in a Movement:" Mike Novogratz

In this week’s episode we speak with Mike Novogratz , the CEO of Galaxy Digital. He started his career at Goldman Sachs and then led a macro hedge fund at Fortress, which was shuttered in 2015. He then went all-in on crypto, in part thanks to convincing from his college roommate Joe Lubin, and founded Galaxy Digital, an investment bank for digital assets. After grinding through the 2018 and 2019 bear market, Mike says he can finally breathe. He is convinced that Bitcoin is finally derisked. Whil...

Mar 12, 202149 minSeason 5Ep. 1

"We Were Idiots and We Were Poor; Then From Mid 2020 to Now, Suddenly, We're Right: " Ameen Soleimani

In this week’s episode I interview Ameen Soleimani , one of the most prolific builders in Ethereum. He’s the CEO of SpankChain, a blockchain-based adult entertainment platform, the co-creator of MolochDAO, a DAO to fund Ethereum projects, and the co-founder of Reflexer Labs, which created RAI, a purely ether-backed stablecoin . We talk about the need of a purely ETH -backed stablecoin, and how RAI is so cypherpunk it’s not only not backed by fiat, but it’s also not pegged to the dollar, it’s onl...

Mar 05, 20211 hr 12 minSeason 4Ep. 10

"We Haven't Seen Anything Yet, So Hold Your Long-Term Bag:" Qiao Wang

In this week’s podcast episode, we speak with long-time crypto investor Qiao Wang . Wang is a partner at the DeFi Alliance and former head of product at Messari. Unlike many Bitcoiners who get into crypto because of their ideological views, or Ethereans attracted by the possibility of building decentralized apps, Wang had been a quant trader for 10 years when he first learned about Bitcoin, and it was the asset’s volatility and potential upside what drew him in. Years later, he’s still actively ...

Feb 19, 202158 minSeason 4Ep. 9

Mark Cuban: "ETH Has an Advantage Over BTC as a Store of Value"

In this week’s episode, we speak with Mark Cuban , Dallas Mavericks owner, billionaire investor and Shark Tank star. It’s been hard to pin down if Cuban is a crypto skeptic or believer. He has questioned the value of bitcoin and called its price surges a bubble, but he has also accepted crypto payments for his basketball team, and tweeted about using Aave and selling NFTs. You’ll have no doubt after listening to this interview where he stands: Cuban is a crypto bull, but more specifically a DeFi...

Feb 12, 20211 hr 5 minSeason 4Ep. 8

"For the First Time, You Can Buy a Piece of the Art, and a Piece of the Gallery:" MetaKovan

In this week’s podcast episode we interview MetaKovan, the pseudonymous investor who holds the largest known NFT collection in his Metapruse fund, which he leads with his (also pseudonymous partner) Twobadour. MetaKovan made waves in the surging NFT space after buying all 20 pieces of the Beeple collection at auction for $2.5M. In this interview, we dive into how exactly he managed to get his hands in the entire collection and what the bigger purpose of holding those pieces was. MetaKovan didn’t...

Feb 06, 20211 hr 9 minSeason 4Ep. 7

Crypto Devs Are "Building a Life Raft For The World After Fiat Falls Apart:" Erik Voorhees

In today’s episode, I speak with Erik Voorhees , long-time crypto advocate and founder and CEO of ShapeShift . In this interview, he talks about how he was able to stop gathering information about his customers and take the exchange back to its roots, by leaning into DeFi. His plan is to create a platform that connects with all of the different DeFi applications, starting with decentralized exchanges. Voorhees holds probably the most extreme view of anyone who has come on this podcast. He thinks...

Jan 29, 202157 minSeason 4Ep. 6

"I'm Imagining a World Where Every Song Has an Investable Layer:" DJ 3LAU

Justin Blau , better known as 3LAU, is a DJ who frequently plays at all the major festivals, he produces his own successful tracks, as well as remixes for pop stars like Rihanna and Katy Perry. He became interested in blockchain technology because it can provide a means for fans to provably to own and digital content and for artists to better monetize their work. He believes this innovation has the potential to revolutionize the music industry.

Jan 15, 202146 minSeason 4Ep. 6

"I'm a Strong Believer in Blockchain; This is Just the Beginning:" Atari CEO Fred Chesnias

In this week’s episode I interview Fred Chesnias, the CEO of Atari. The video game company now has a token and plans to release a wallet and even an exchange. The token is an erc20, which Atari hopes will get used across any game, not just their own. With the token, users will be able to buy Atari NFTs, which include wearables to make a fashion statement in the metaverse. Fred believes blockchain and crypto can be a way to make it out of poverty, even leveraging video games themselves, reselling...

Jan 08, 202151 minSeason 4Ep. 5

"Bitcoin is the Most Honest Form of Money We've Ever Had:" Robert Sharratt of CrescoFin

In this week’s episode, I speak with Robert Sharratt, managing director at CrescoFin , a Swiss-regulated crypto firm which wants to become a bank alternative. He says Cresco’s objective is to replace banking with code. And while that sounds revolutionary, he’s the first to admit he’s in a “boring business.” He’s not building a yield farming platform that can get you 1,000x yield. He’s building a savings account that’s backed by real-world assets like invoices, for users to deposit fiat currency ...

Dec 23, 20201 hr 15 minSeason 4Ep. 5

"We Took Lessons From the Food Festival to Level Up the DeFi Experience," Bloq's Jeff Garzik

In today’s episode I talk with Jeff Garzik, the Bitcoin core developer turned DeFi builder. Jeff comes from leading Bloq, a blockchain infrastructure company focusing on enterprises. As much as decentralized finance is exciting and groundbreaking, he believes its lacking professionalism. Jeff believes DeFi needs to be easy for retail users and for institutional users, not just for crypto natives. With that goal in mind, Bloq is launching Vesper, a decentralized protocol for users to gain passive...

Dec 14, 202059 minSeason 4Ep. 4

"The Only Thing Where I Probably Agree With Arca is That GNO is Under-appreciated:" Gnosis' Stefan George

In this week’s episode I speak with Stefan George , the cofounder and CTO of Gnosis . Gnosis is one of the OG Ethereum projects. It was founded in 2015 by Stefan and Martin Koppelman as a prediction market platform on Ethereum and it’s now an ecosystem of financial applications, with a decentralized multi-sig wallet, called Gnosis Safe, and a decentralized exchange. Most recently, Gnosis announced it will join other DeFi projects and launch a DAO, where it would transfer a large chunk of the eth...

Dec 07, 20201 hr 2 minSeason 4Ep. 3

"This Boom Feels Organic; Traffic's Not Coming Out of The Blue Like With ICOs in 2017:" Infura's EG Galano

In this week’s episode I speak with E.G. Galano, cofounder of Infura, an infrastructure provider for Ethereum and other blockchains. Many Ethereum applications depend on Infura to run their nodes, and it became apparent why that’s problematic recently, when the service provider was having trouble connecting to the Ethereum blockchain, causing much of DeFi to break down. E.G. dives into the recent outage; he goes into what went wrong and what Infrua is doing to make sure it doesn’t happen again. ...

Nov 30, 202059 minSeason 4Ep. 2
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