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The Data Stack Show

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Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data.

Episodes

250: The Chat Interface Debate: Is Text Really the Future?

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Dashboard vs. Chatbot Discussion (1:40) The Future of Chat Interfaces (3:03) Vibe Revenue Concept (6:36) AI's Early Days Compared to the Internet (10:14) OpenAI and Hardware Collaboration (13:09) Challenges of Hardware Development (16:20) Productivity in Programming Languages (18:18) Critique of 'Language is Dead' Posts (21:34) Legacy Systems in Use (22:34) Deterministic vs. Non-Deterministic Workflows (23:37) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (23:45)...

Jun 25, 202524 min

249: Quacking Through Data: Duckdb's Emerging Ecosystem

This week on The Data Stack Show , John Wessel and Matt Kelliher-Gibson dive into the recent Duck Lake announcement, exploring the evolving landscape of data analytics technologies. They discuss DuckDB's role as a lightweight, local analytics database and its potential as a caching layer for open table formats like Iceberg. The conversation also highlights the current state of data storage standards, focusing on agreements around Parquet and Iceberg, while noting the ongoing complexity in catalo...

Jun 18, 202519 min

248: AI and BI: The Future of Data Analytics with Michael Driscoll of Rill Data

This week on The Data Stack Show , Eric and John welcome Michael Driscoll, Co-Founder and CEO of Rill Data. Mike discusses the transformative impact of AI on business intelligence (BI) and data analytics. He also explores the shift from traditional dashboard-based tools to more dynamic, code-driven, and AI-powered interfaces that provide deeper insights. During the conversation, the group emphasizes the importance of a metrics-first approach, the potential of leapfrog architectures using technol...

Jun 11, 202548 min

The PRQL: The Metrics-First Approach: Transforming How We Understand Data with Michael Driscoll of Rill Data

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, customer data infrastructure that enables you to deliver real-time customer event data everywhere it’s needed to power smarter decisions and better customer experiences. Each week, we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps bus...

Jun 09, 20252 min

247: Consulting Firms, AI Strategies, and the $100K Question with the Cynical Data Guy

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: The Cynical Data Guy Returns (1:11) Klarna's AI Shift (2:08) Sensational Headlines in Tech (4:31) Impact of AI on Jobs (8:19) Cost of AI Strategy (10:21) Consulting Strategies and Company Differentiation (12:26) Brand Recognition in Consulting (14:48) Critique of Outsourcing Thought (17:10) Future of Consulting with AI (19:37) The Fragility of Data Systems (21:32) Primitive Data Stacks (24:05) Cynical Data Scientist Epitaph (00:26:06) Rebranding ...

Jun 04, 202531 min

The PRQL: Cynical Data Guy: Unpacking Tech's Latest Hype Cycles

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, customer data infrastructure that enables you to deliver real-time customer event data everywhere it’s needed to power smarter decisions and better customer experiences. Each week, we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps bus...

Jun 02, 20253 min

246: AI, Abstractions, and the Future of Data Engineering with Pete Hunt of Dagster

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Pete's Background and Journey in Data (1:36) Evolution of Data Practices (3:02) Integration Challenges with Acquired Companies (5:13) Trust and Safety as a Service (8:12) Transition to Dagster (11:26) Value Creation in Networking (14:42) Observability in Data Pipelines (18:44) The Era of Big Complexity (21:38) Abstraction as a Tool for Complexity (24:41) Composability and Workflow Engines (28:08) The Need for Guardrails (33:13) AI in Development ...

May 28, 202549 min

The PRQL: Breaking Down Silos: Collaborative Data Engineering in the AI Era with Pete Hunt of Dagster

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, customer data infrastructure that enables you to deliver real-time customer event data everywhere it’s needed to power smarter decisions and better customer experiences. Each week, we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps bus...

May 26, 20253 min

245: The Future of Data: Postgres, Iceberg, and Operational Analytics with Pranav Aurora of Mooncake Labs

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Pranav’s Background and Journey in Data (1:10) Backstory of Mooncake Labs (2:05) PostgreSQL as a Force (4:47) Curiosity in Product Management (7:33) Challenges with Iceberg (11:12) Go-to-Market Strategy (13:52) Building Community Engagement (15:56) Importance of Feedback (18:26) AI Integration in Mooncake Labs (21:29) Innovation in data interaction (23:49) PostgreSQL and startup growth (28:41) Core component of business strategy (31:20) The Origi...

May 22, 202544 min

The PRQL: Zero to One: Navigating the Challenges of a Data Infrastructure Startup

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

May 21, 20252 min

244: Postgres to ClickHouse: Simplifying the Modern Data Stack with Aaron Katz & Sai Krishna Srirampur

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Background of ClickHouse (1:14) PostgreSQL Data Replication Tool (3:19) Emerging Technologies Observations (7:25) Observability and Market Dynamics (11:26) Product Development Challenges (12:39) Challenges with PostgreSQL Performance (15:30) Philosophy of Open Source (18:01) Open Source Advantages (22:56) Simplified Stack Vision (24:48) End-to-End Use Cases (28:13) Migration Strategies (30:21) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (33:29) The Data Stack S...

May 20, 202535 min

The PRQL: Data Migration Made Easy: Postgres, ClickHouse, and the Future of Analytics with Aaron Katz and Sai Krishna Srirampur

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

May 19, 20256 min

243: The Data Economy: Turning Information into a Tradable Commodity with Viktor Kessler of Vakamo

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Viktor's Background and Journey in Data (1:20) Evolution of Data Architecture (4:41) The Lakehouse Concept (7:12) Open Source Innovation (11:05) Data Production and Decentralization (15:06) Governance in Decentralized Systems (18:53) Data Economy and Monetization (21:15) Security Concerns in Data Processing (24:21) Impact on Data Consumers (27:37) Compaction Issues in Data Tables (29:39) Open Source Lake Keeper Tool and Parting Thoughts (33:02) T...

May 16, 202534 min

The PRQL: Governance, Flexibility, and the Future of Enterprise Data with Viktor Kessler of Vakamo

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

May 15, 20252 min

242: The Data Convergence: How Operational and Analytical Data Are Merging with Ruben Burdin of Stacksync

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Ruben's Background (1:14) Defining Operational Data (5:20) The Convergence of Operational and Analytical Data (10:53) Evolution from Data Warehousing to Fulfillment Centers (13:19) Challenges of API Integration (18:25) Understanding Data Complexity (22:18) Database vs. API Calls (25:32) Real-Time Database Views (28:15) The Evolution of Data Technology (32:37) Future Topics on PostgreSQL Scaling and Parting Thoughts (34:02) The Data Stack Show is ...

May 14, 202536 min

The PRQL: Two-Way Sync: The Future of Database Communication with Ruben Burdin of Stacksync

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

May 13, 20252 min

241: Marketing Meets Data: Measuring Impact and Driving Results with Pedram Navid of Dagster Labs

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Pedram’s Background and Journey in Data (1:13) Marketing vs. Data Engineering (2:30) Understanding Marketing Pressures (4:16) Attribution Models and Accountability (8:13) Balancing Marketing and Team Management (12:25) Introduction to Dagster Components (15:00) AI Integration with Data Engineering (19:05) Challenges in Data Support (22:05) Self-Service Data Access (26:07) AI in Data Management (28:25) Organizing Data in Technical Teams (31:25) Ch...

May 12, 202539 min

The PRQL: Shifting Gears: From Code to Marketing in the Data World with Pedram Navid of Dagster Labs

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

May 09, 20252 min

240: Data Council Insights from a Waymo: Postgres and the Future of the Data Stack

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Recording from a Waymo (0:54) Future of Data Technology (2:45) AI Integration in Data Work (4:20) Speeding Up Data Experiences (5:29) Snapshot Conversations with Founders (9:52) Diversity of Perspectives on Postgres (12:37) Cultural Significance of Database Mascots (14:09) Incubation and Success of Open Source Projects (16:43) Final Thoughts and Takeaways (17:34) The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for develope...

May 07, 202518 min

The PRQL: Data Council Debrief

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

May 05, 20254 min

239: How AI is Transforming Product Development with Thomas Kuckoff, Senior Product Manager at Omron Automation

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Introduction of Panelists (2:15) Understanding Product Development (4:42) Three Stages of Product Development (7:53) Collaboration Across Teams (11:20) Understanding Customer Pain Points (12:31) Designers, Explainers, and Sustainers Framework (15:17) AI in Product Development (18:09) Using AI Responsibly (22:53) AI in Sustaining Product Development (24:57) Brand Storytelling with AI (27:40) Tooling and AI Implementation (29:29) Pressure for AI In...

Apr 30, 202557 min

238: What Every Developer Needs to Know About Microservices in 2025 with Mark Fussell, Founder & CEO at Diagrid

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Mark’s Background and Journey in Data (1:08) Mark’s Time at Microsoft (5:33) Internal Adoption of Azure (9:20) Understanding Pain Points (11:06) Complexity in Software Development (13:15) Microservices Architecture Overview (17:15) Microservices vs. Monolith (22:08) Modernizing Legacy Applications (24:39) Dependency Management with Dapr (29:43) Infrastructure as Code (33:04) AI's Rapid Evolution and Vendor Changes (37:27) Language Models in Appli...

Apr 23, 202552 min

The PRQL: From Monoliths to Microservices with Mark Fussell, Founder & CEO at Diagrid

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

Apr 21, 20253 min

237: Startups, Sales, and Spreadsheets: How a Real Estate Developer Built an AI Company

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Willz’s Background and Journey (1:25) Discussing Real Estate Data Challenges (2:58) Inspiration for Software Creation (4:05) From Spreadsheet to Software (9:04) Challenges in Ownership Identification (12:24) Company Acquisition (16:00) Pitching Investors with Data Tools (18:46) Lessons Learned from Selling the Company (21:45) The Journey to Ready (26:55) Sales Development Representatives Explained (29:22) Role of Data in Sales (33:30) Real-Time D...

Apr 16, 202559 min

The PRQL: Willz Tolbert’s Journey Through Real Estate and AI

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

Apr 14, 20253 min

236: Ringing Out the Old: AI's Role in Redefining Data Teams, Tools, and Business Models

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: The Impact of AI (1:25) Historical Context of Technology (2:31) Pre-existing Infrastructure for Change (4:42) AI as a Personal Assistant (7:10) Future of Company Roles (9:13) Managing Teams in a Dystopian AI Future (12:31) Business Architecture Choices (15:52) Integration Tool Usage (18:07) AI's Impact on Data Roles (21:53) AI as an Interface (24:04) Trust in AI vs. SQL (27:12) Snowflake's Acquisition of Dataflow (29:54) Regression to the Mean Co...

Apr 09, 202554 min

The PRQL: AI, SaaS, and the End of Job Titles with Eric Dodds and John Wessel

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

Apr 07, 20254 min

235: Pete Soderling on the Evolution of Data Engineering

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: Pete's Career Overview (1:00) AI and Data Engineering Discussion (2:05) Themes of Data Council (4:19) High-Frequency Trading Insights (8:04) San Francisco's Unique Advantages (10:27) Data Council Conference Preview (13:23) The Magic of In-Person Events (15:45) Collapsing Batch and Streaming Systems (19:47) Leveraging Local Hardware for Data Processing (22:07) Future of Blockchain in Computing (23:57) Intersection of AI and Data Management (26:47)...

Apr 02, 202543 min

The PRQL: What AI Founders Need to Know About Data (Before It’s Too Late) with Pete Soderling of Zero Prime Ventures

The Data Stack Show is a weekly podcast powered by RudderStack, the CDP for developers. Each week we’ll talk to data engineers, analysts, and data scientists about their experience around building and maintaining data infrastructure, delivering data and data products, and driving better outcomes across their businesses with data. RudderStack helps businesses make the most out of their customer data while ensuring data privacy and security. To learn more about RudderStack visit rudderstack.com ....

Mar 31, 20253 min

234: The Cynical Data Guy on AI, Data Tools, and the Future of Coding

Highlights from this week’s conversation include: AI in Transcription Services (1:11) The Future of AI Companies (5:09) Potential Risks of AI Tools (8:57) Learning vs. Dependency in Programming (10:17) The Journey of a Data Analyst (12:07) AI and Coding Skills (14:06) Abstraction in Data Tools (16:59) Data Design and AI (19:07) User Experience vs. AI Automation (22:10) AGI and Data Mesh (24:36) Blank Screen Interaction Challenges (27:10) Understanding User Value in Data Platforms (32:22) AI's Ro...

Mar 26, 202536 min
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