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What up? Good morning to you Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app and may I be the first to wish you a happy New Year. You're like, no, everybody wished me Happy New Year last night, Matt. I don't know, especially if you're West Coast. You're getting up. You probably went to bed early. You probably like going to bed. What's the point Well, I don't know. It's twenty twenty five. Dan byer alongside, happy to know you're Doug.
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Yes, yes it does. There is a lot to get to with the three college fotball playoff games tonight, with some other sports, YadA, YadA, YadA. But let's react to last night' Spenn State win over Boise State. You heard it, I'm sure in the update. My guess is, if you're any sort of a sports fan, even if you're at a party, you were looking at a screen to see how it would go down. The final score is thirty one to fourteen. I have my own opinion on it.
But Dan, let's let me ask you. Obviously, you're now only a college football fan and you watch this team, but you know, like Big ten is something that you watch a ton of because of all the sports, and of all the sports teams you like, of all the college football teams you like, Ohio State is your favorite team. So you've seen Penn State in action. I think both of us thought, boys, you would keep it closer. I think it was eleven point line. I'm trying to remember
back to the end of yesterday's show. But what again, the final score is thirty one to fourteen. Just give me your sense of the game.
I think that it was exactly what we expected. It was finished as a seventeen point victory. And if you didn't think that it was a seventeen point edge, that's fine. I think it probably was. Boise State had opportunities, a couple of miss field goals. They missed one on their opening drive, they missed another one they could have got them within a score in the fourth quarter. They had a bad interception in Penn State territory. So Boise State had their opportunities, but no point did I feel that
Penn State was threatened or would lose the game. There was never a point of that, and so I think it's kind of what we expected. And Doug, what this does allow is us to say, all right, does Boise State really deserve the buy? Does Boise State or a team like Boise State deserve to be in the field? I think the first the answer to the first question is no, and I think the answer to the second
question is yes. Boise State fared just like other teams did in the first week of the College football Playoff. So I last night to me was just more of a confirmation of what we thought in what we believed, and there was nothing there that changed my mind.
That's really really good, really really good breakdown analysis. Let me let me ask you this. Do you believe that Penn State is one of the elite teams in the country?
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No, okay, And again I understand there's a great area between yeah, yeah, there's a gray area between elite and should they get in the field sort of thing. And again that's what happens when you expand to twelve is you get to these kind of like, Okay, we're do we rewarded a good team? My point would be, yet, first of all, this should have been a first round game, right,
Penn State is not a great team. They're they're at best the third best team in the Big Ten, which is which is you know, no small feet, right, Oregon's good who they lost to Ohio State too, And we've actually seen it on a football field, right. This isn't the Indiana where we've only seen them play against one. We've seen them play against the two other what we
think are elite teams in the Big Ten. They've lost to both, and so they'd be, by anyone's estimation, the third best team out of the Big Ten, which is the second best conference of the country. Okay, and so I'll get to my thoughts on the game. But the point is and remains, and I think we are actually we don't agree on a lot or maybe you know, sometimes anything in an argument, but I think both of
us would agree on these two statements. One, this is the most overly fair field will probably ever have, right will probably ever have because Boise is not getting and I guess maybe they can figure out a way, but maybe they have to do it next year. But after the two year trial period, there's zero chance that a non power for school is getting a top four seed. Zero chances. I'm just so glaring to everyone, so glaring,
and I can't. I think it was Chip Kelly who said it, and obviously coaching in the Horizon League, we're catching strays. He's like, look, Oakland can get in the field, but they're not going to get a number one seed, right, Like, that's and that's and again I don't think the Mountain West is Oakland, but I do understand what he's saying, which is it was just the whole thing was ridiculous that they would get a top four seat.
I think, And there's another there's another reason for that, Doug is I think previously if you saw an unbeaten team in the old format be able to run the table and make a push. You know, we mentioned the likes of Hawaii and the old BCS format, but in what happened with with Cincinnati. You know, a few years ago you have Cincinnati making their push in then the
American Athletic Conference. Yes, now, because of when you have eighteen schools in a league, when you have the SEC with Texas and Oklahoma, those power conferences are looked at differently. There's more of a separation. Back when Cincinnati did it, I felt that there was maybe a closer gap because more teams were spread out, more schools were out. You had an actual pack twelve conference. At the time, Big
twelve had twelve teams. Now they've got sixteen schools, the SEC's got sixteen, the Big ten's got eighteen, and so it's it's just the fact of these leagues that those smaller the group of five or group of four are dealing with. Outside of the power for it's just a bigger gap. So to your point, I think it was different, you know, even you know, three four years ago, because
conferences weren't like this. But now with the move of USC and UCLA and Oregon and Washington and Oklahoma and Texas and Arizona State and Colorado and Utah and Arizona and the whole deal, it just it's a bigger gap. So you can't these conferences is just way too strong and way too deep to allow that to happen again.
They have too much let's just cut the brass tacks. They have too much money. They just have too much money. It doesn't mean you're buying a great team, but you're it's a and the attrition of the sport of football, okay, just the depth of overall bodies and talent and what you can do when you when your budget is ten to fifteen to sometimes twenty x your opponent, Like you know,
I mean I described this a little bit yesterday. There's a as a kid who had a great game yesterday for Atlantic ten school, and I the mom and him, and we were recruiting him when I got the job, and man that a guy think like this will work. This guy's going to come in. He got to play in the NCAA tournament last year. I wanted this kid. I was like, man, you fit exactly what I need, just a different level of athlete than I had on
my roster. And when we got down to it, I just I was half of my budget for nil would have gone to one player, which again maybe in hindsight would have been smarter, you know, but I just you know, I would have been massively over my budget and somebody, you know, I would have been in a situation that some of these coaches are in where I would either have to go beg for more money or I would have I would have stopped paying guys because I wouldn't
have had the money. So the point is that the money does actually really really matter how much you have, how much you can spend. It's a crazy difference. There is one sort of evening of the playing field that still exists, and it's going to be interesting to see what happens now with this. There's a new uh, it's a ruling. It's a temporary rule as a as a court made it for the for the Vanderbilt quarterback where
your junior college year doesn't count. So again, like you're able those non power fives are able to one go down recruit. You know, FBS kids are transferring up kids
with an extra year, sometimes two extra years. Now you're getting older guys, so kind of like the old Byu effect where you can have twenty three, twenty four to twenty five year old guys and the and the you know, the Georgia's, the Alabama's, you know, they're dealing with pro prospects that maybe they have a greater depth of athletes, but they don't have the agent experience. But generally, yes, this is this has been my argument for why the SEC deserved more seeds. And I know, you know two
of them lost yesterday. I don't I find it hard to take those ones seriously because they're not the they're not the Championship Bowls. The point is that the Big ten and the SEC have more money than everybody else. Now there's a couple of schools around the country that in their leagues they have a bunch of money and generally they've done really, really well. But yes, there's a greater separation there used to be. So the first thing is, I don't think we're ever going to have this again
after these two years. And yet I'm with you. It's like we've we've completely overcorrected from where we always used to be. For years, it was we got to have a playoff, and hey, let's not forget about the little guy, because the little guy is what makes the NCAA tournament so popular. It's not actually really true, right, It's really not. What makes the NCAA Tournament really popular is the bracket itself, the sixty fourteen field that everybody, your grandma, your son,
your nephew, everybody can fill out and even with no knowledge. Yes, the Cinderella upsets are really cool, but they should always be included. But there's a difference between including a Boise State and giving them the three seed. I mean, it was honestly ridiculous. But in regards to the game, there was a moment.
Can I just sec your whole money thing that you're talking about, Like, I completely understand what you're saying, but money has never been a part of the discussion when we are trying to pick the schools. Now, they may be better and they made me spend more, but we've never said, well, that team's nil budget is blank, so or this is how much this athletic department brings in
or this football, therefore they're better. We've always done it on records, and we've always done it on leagues and strength of schedule and who they've played and who they didn't play, who they won and who they lost to. So while money will change things, I do still think that it goes down to the things that I talked about, and the bigger part is just that it's there's no way you can now stack up a Mountain West Conference against the big ten or an SEC.
Yes, but it's again because of the money. Again, it's it's and it's just how much you spend. It really is. I mean, I wish it was about a bunch of other things, and I thought, you know, Boise, there's a lot of clever things they do. They're expertly coached, They block well, they tackle well, there's a lot of good stuff. But again, the money matters because you just have more
resources of players. Well, we've always had the more resources of coaches and stadiums or whatever, and there's always been the thought of stuff going on on the table. Now. The reason we haven't had the discussion before because it wasn't out in the open before, and it was the difference wasn't as stark a contrasts. It just wasn't like you go and look at like, how do they have all these players? Like they have more money. They they
will pay players to red shirt everybody else. Why did the kid go there and sit and not play for a year because they told him, hey, we're on three year program. We're going to pay it more in your first year, and then once you don't play in your first year. Yea, you know, it really is what sort of about the money?
Boise runs the table and is thirteen in all like that.
But they're also they're playing against with the exception of the organ game, they're playing against like funded or lesser funded teams. Boise for their league is very well funded.
Boise in totality is not. So the point is like, again, if you were the argument for any of these SEC teams and even Alabama, I know they fell on the fell on their face yesterdays losing to Michigan, Okay, But if you play against ten to twenty million dollar teams on a weeke in week out, basis just the overall bodies, the collisions, it's just different. It's like cash and genty
I mean here's a perfect example. If I'm a running back, and I know that's not why he went to Boise State, but if I'm a star running back, I would much rather play at the Mountain West level or below simply
to take care of my body for professional football. Because the collisions he took last night were at least one point five x to the collisions he takes in the Mountain West because they're bigger, stronger, more athletic bodies, and those collisions wear you down more and have the potential for injury more.
Yeah, I get that, But that's no different this year, right, I mean in college football and how we look at it, And they were still ranking Boise high up on the list because Boise had a close loss to Oregon, and truly that was the feather in their caps. They played Oregon tough throughout the season. That doesn't none of that changes, none of none of that is any different from from now. And that's we're actually we're on the same page of
what we're saying. You just think that money is the reason why, and I actually just think it's the depth of the conferences that now make the Mountain West seem lesser.
Right, And it's My point would be, you're right, we're actually saying the same thing. And the depth of the conferences, because those conferences are all way more funded, way better funded than the Mountain West is just it just is. I mean, so I agree with you and that we've what we've done is we've elevated some of the you know, like Louisville was at the level of Boise State, and
you go back twenty years ago. Right now, Louisville has been so so the if you want to call them mid majors of college football have have many of them have been moved up, and Boise State has been left behind. And because Boise State has been left behind, I'll tell you what. This is a parallel to Ah you ready for it. This is a little bit like Villanova when
they got left behind in the new Big East. Remember Villanova was for the last five years or so of the of when the Big East was Gargantia, when was like fourteen teams. They were struggling, they were middle of the pack. And then Syracuse, Pittsburgh, you know, Virginia Tech, they all left for the acc and they were left with Creighton and DePaul and Providence and seen Hall with
more true kind of mid majors. Now, the Big East has since elevated because Villanova built on that success in their league and then got better and better players and ultimately won two national championships. But they were they went literally went from the middle of the road Big East team to dominant team in the Big East. And the only thing they changed was the level of overall competition in the Big East. Right, they were a high major.
They were a kind of upper middling high major for a couple of years, and now they're playing against mid majors and they dominated him. That's what's happened to Boise where Boise now like again, their competition at their level has gotten lesser. So I'm actually agreeing with you. I think it's actually a really really smart point that people don't understand. It's that not only have they been kind of left behind, but now the teams at their level
are I mean, like, look the Mountain West. It becomes like a juco for the for the Big Ten and for the SEC. Like that's what happens, you know, all those all those kids. The reason they can recruit guys that have more than one year of eligibility, as they tell them, hey, come here. You won't make as much money, but you'll play. Then you'll get film. Then you'll go to the SEC, You'll go to the ACC, you go to the Big twelve, you go to the big ten.
That's actually how you recruit, knowing that you're actually taking a slightly inferior player, but it's a better player than you could get in a traditional sense in recruiting, right real quick in regards to the game. And this is again of the things that I've learned in my seven months of being a Division one head coach, is a little bit, a little bit of what you talked about if you're at a talent deficit. And that game, that game was a mismatch. It wasn't a woeful mismatch. It
wasn't like Penn State could just show up. But Penn State's a good, well coached football team, hard hitting, they run the football. They do a lot of the things that Boise does, only they just have bigger, better athletes, and it's a little bit better. You know, as much as Boise gave away opportunities with the field goals and with the touchdown that was called back, and had the touchdown not been called back, that would have put some
pressure on Penn State. It would have been a one score game and we would have seen what Penn State was made of. The fact is that Penn State also gave away opportunities. That game would have been over early had Clifford not fumbled and they were marching down the field to score. Yet again, it just it felt like Boise was stunned, you know, and would have been over
early if not for the fumble. And then there was the interception in the second half, which there's a late hit, you know, a personal foul penalty, a dumb penalty on another Penn State player. Had that not penalty not happen, and I think Penn State would have scored there again, game would have been over. But the big thing is for Boise, if you want to compete against a team that's better than you, it doesn't mean you can't win, but you have to be much closer to perfect than
they were. And they just weren't, yea, you know, they just weren't because if you can get if they could have gotten it to one score, the pressure would have been on Penn State. You know, Penn State couldn't protect sometimes throwing the football and what they're passing in was a little shaky, and look it's you know, you start looking up and you're like, holy cow, we think we're better than them. We're only up three points here. Late. Yeah, I mean there actually was a moment where like this
could be interesting. But the overall takeaway, and maybe this is confirmation bias, was it wasn't It was. It was a mismatch. One team was way better and we I'm not I coach at a mid major and basketball is
a little bit different. You can mitigate some of that stuff for the three point line with zone defenses, with a lot of kind of cleverness whatever, and we've seen it work in college basketball, and I don't think the contrast is as stark in basketball because guys, the best of the best leave after a year or two in college basketball, or as they can't until year three in
college football. But that was a game in which Penn State probably wins nine out of ten times, and in order for boys to win, they have to be close to perfect. They got to make the first field goal, they got to make the second field goal, they got to not fumble the football, and even then it would have been really really tough to beat a good solid but not elite Penn State team.
And I don't know if if the sound was on where you were at Doug, but I had the sound on. Bob was choosing is great. But boy, anytime Ashton Genty would get any sort of space, he would just scream Genty because he was almost trying to will that narrative and that Boise State feel, you know that that story, almost trying to will it to happen like it would. He would go five or six notches higher on an eight yard carry, you know, because he was getting stuffed.
And then anytime he would actually have daylight, they you know, there would be you know, some excitement. They actually got up around one hundred yards last night. I don't think he broke one hundred yards, but yeah, it was they were they were trying. They were really trying.
Yeah, everybody, everybody wanted to be you know, you always want to call the Cinderella, call the big play, and it just yeah.
He got over one hundred one oh four.
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Got leave Dan Byron for Dan Patrick and the dan Ets. So Dan, we did this yesterday. This is basically Jason doing a ton of work and going and finding some cool sound from twenty twenty four, right, and we like, we just this happened in twenty four and you and I can go back and forth and what we remember about it. We called it. They said, what hold on, Manute, They.
Said, what now, Doug, Before we get into this, I do need to bring Dan on because he had after the fact, he had a better idea on what to name the segment. What did what did you? What'd you want to do?
So this aired yesterday last year, guys, it aired last year. I thought that these segments should be called what did we hear this year? Instead of they said what much more catchy rhyming aspect? Yeah, alliteration and rhyming.
You had him in a literation, that's like, that's that's that's basically that's him. You had me at hello, you had Jase do at.
Illiteration exactly right, exactly right.
You had him in a literation.
And what I wanted to do today is that we had so much left on the cutting room floor. And you know what, remember when people bought DVD's and they came with deleted scenes as a bonus. I always thought that was a little overrated, Like if the deleted scenes were so good, why weren't they just in the original cut? But anyways, this is like the deleted scenes from yesterday's they said what And it's still great sound and it's a reminder of like things that happen that are still
pretty topical today. For example, I wonder if you'd think Jerry Jones would want these words back, but he has since doubled and tripled down on the comments, so maybe he didn't want them back, but this was the original all in comments from February.
I would anticipate, with looking ahead at our key contracts that we'd like to address, we'll be all in. I would anticipate we'll be all in. That's the end of this year. So when you say, is there any thought, I think we'll strainer. We'll push the hell out of it. It will be going all in on different people than you've done in the past.
We'll be going all in.
We've seen some things out of some of the players that we want to be all in on. And yes, I would say that you will see us this coming year, not building for the future.
It's the best way.
I don't saying may not ought to answer a lot of questions.
Now, guys, all in is a catchphrase that is most kind of tied to Texas. Hold them. I think it's ironic that a guy that lives in Texas and made billions of dollars in Texas doesn't quite know what the term all in is. He had a lame duck coach coming into the season. He signed Dak Prescott I think on the final day of the off season, and he didn't spend any money on free agents, which is kind of the opposite of all in. It was like frugal and kind of responsible financially, the opposite of all in.
No, yes, again, I think that in Jerry's mind, they took care of most of their contracts that needed to, and the all in was they weren't you know, they weren't playing for the future. They're playing for the now. But you're definitely you're definitely right right that if this is all in, I'd hate to see what it looks like when they're not all in.
Yeah, that that it just we we have taken the all in quote and shorten it. When you hear that whole thing, he completely did the opposite. He tried to he tried to explain away what all in meant yeah throughout the year, but knowing that original sound bite, he said, No, it's not about building for the future. It's about winning
this this year and doing it this year now. Locking up Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb may have been for this year, but those are also long term moves, correct, because of the contracts that you know you've laid out. So I just yeah, it just it's it's complete lie that's all it was.
Let's get to let's get to a basketball one. Don't you have a basketball one from February as well.
I'm guessing you've wanted to do this after one of your games. Doug Rick Patino decided to use exactly zero filters when talking about Saint John's team out ro lost.
We are so non athletic that we can't guard anybody without fouling. I don't think they move well laterally. I don't think they're going to pick it up in the next week. I think this slow laterally. I mean Sean Conway gives you everything he can, he's slow laterally. About five guys of slow laterally, even the Celtics when we lost. I've enjoyed every minute being the boss, and Celtic coach didn't like the fact that we lost in that following year.
But this has been the most unenjoyable experience I've had since I've been coaching.
Do you have any second thoughts of taking this job? No, not at all.
It's not Saint John's my team. I think they're very respectful. They hear, but they don't listen. It's taken me a month to get them to throw bounce passes, actually two months to throw bounce passes, just thinking of getting ready for Georgetown because George Young could definitely beat us.
I'm not even thinking of the future at all.
I'm just thinking of the next game and the next game, in the next game, and that's it.
They actually end up winning some games after that, including the Georgetown Altho, Georgetown was terrible last year. Uh yeah, that was that was that was a lot.
It's not you.
It's the enjoyable experience I've ever.
Do you wish you would up taking the Saint John's job.
No, no, no, it's not Saint John's my team.
I just I just don't like those guys. That's amazing.
Nothing to do with St. John's. That's un athletic Clays.
No comment, no comment from my end, none.
So so many people, I guess put their foot in their mouth about Caitlin Clark over the past year. She was by far the most controversial sports figure of the year. And then Greg Doyle, longtime columnist for The Indie Star. He's kind of a different, eccentric guy, definitely leans left, but that has nothing to do with this comment. He had a a she was at the introductory press conference, and he had this exchange with her.
Hey, Caitlin, Greg Doyle and the Star real quick, illill we do this like you like that, I like that you're here, like I.
Do that in my family after every game. So okay, well we'll start doing it to me and we'll get along just fine. So the question is, so Greg was taken off of any fever duty. He couldn't cover the fever for the rest of the season and maybe forever. I think he apologized in some way, shape or form, but a very disturbing SoundBite there.
Well he did. He did the heart thing, which is the Taylor Swift heart thing, and that is something she does. I just I don't know, Like Greg, eccentric is the perfect word. I kind of think he got railroad in this deal. Like Greg, the last thing he wants to do is he's just weird. Just he's a different dude, talented writer, sort of weird, kind of mister India as a writer. Whatever. And Yeah, I don't know. I think I think people didn't know how to handle the Caitlin
Clark thing. And I also think that it's pretty obvious that women really don't know how to handle all the attentions she got, you know, and that everything becomes sexist, racist, like or this is just sports and we're just trying to cover a Hayley's comment that that has our attention.
You mean New Zealots don't give a heart to the president right before the press conference or news conference and then he gives one back. The great part about well, there's nothing great about that clip, but they're hidden is one hidden. It is all cringe worthy, especially actually when you know what happens, like you know what's going on, the cackling in the background. We always make fun of the fake laughter that we get with exchanges when coaches
say something that's not even remotely funny. But the but this was more of a pep rally, the media combo thing. This wasn't like just a media session thing. But there are people just cackling in the background too, just thinking how great it was.
Yeah, so wrong.
The whole thing was just so everything was just so weird about it.
I don't know, but you talked about how like the WNBA themselves didn't like the way they were covered. So as you say, don't like it.
They don't like anything unless you just say you're great. Everybody loves you You're better than the NBA, You're better than everything, and we're all idiots for not covering you for twenty five years.
I think one of the morons over on ESPN had said that when Caitlin Clark was eliminated from the playoffs that now he's looking forward to seeing coverage that's empowering to women. At least now that Kaitlin Clark's gone. The ratings might not be up, but at least we'll have empowering coverage. So Lebron James actually weighed in. Everybody had a thought on this, and Lebron James weighed in defending Caitlyn Clark.
The one thing that I love that she's bringing to her sport, more people want to watch, more people want.
To tune in.
Don't get it twisted, don't get it done. Caitlin Clark is the reason why a lot of great things is going to happen for the WNBA.
But for her.
Individually, I don't think she should get involved on nothing that's being said. Just go have fun, enjoy, you know. But I'm rude for Caitlin because I've been in that seat before, I've walked that road before. I hope they I hope she kills I hopefully at Boston does amazing, you know, I hope they do great.
Yeah, yeah, I mean he has on some level walked it. It's got to be okay. I just can't imagine carrying an entire sport and the sport fighting you carrying it right now. Look, there was a little of that with Jordan early on, a little bit okay because they weren't very good, but not much. Not much with Magic and Bird. There was none of it with Kobe. There was some of it right where Jordan and some of the Old Guard, you know, he was a little much. Maybe a little
bit of it with Lebron. But I actually think Caitlin's carrying of a sport when the sport itself doesn't want her to carry it is got to be really really hard, got to be really really difficult. I just I can't.
Imagine everything she does is measured.
That's well, now it has to be, not has to be.
You're probably wondering why, of all the sound bites in twenty twenty four, why Jeff Darlington would be one of them. You know, just a reporter that does a lot of NFL, but he covers golf too. He was reporting on the PGA Championship and he was an actual witness to the following event.
Entering bajall A Golf Club this morning, we witnessed a car pull around us. That was Scotty Scheffler was in the car. To be very clear about the details here, Scotty Scheffler has been detained by police officers placed in the back of a police vehicle in handcuffs after he tried to pull around what he believed to be security, ended up being police officers.
They told him to stop.
When he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to the vehicle. Scheffler then traveled another ten yards before stopping the car. The police officer then grabbed at his arm, attempting to pull him out of the car before Scheffler eventually opened the door, at which point the police officer pulled Scheffler out of the car, pushed him up against the car, and immediately placed him in handcuffs. Scheffler was then walked over to the police car placed in the
back in handcuffs. Donne about what was happening, looked toward me as he was in those handcuffs and said, please help me. He very clearly did not know what was happening in this situation. It moved very quickly, very rapidly, very aggressively. He was detained in that police vehicle for approximately twenty minutes. The police officers at that point did not understand that Scottie Scheffler was a golfer in the tournament, nor of course that he is a number one player in the world.
I love the ass pect of now looking back and again someone was tragically killed at Valhalla, which caused all of the commotion and the delays and the lay enclosures, and so that part is not funny at all. But how like Jeff Dart, like this was I mean, I mean this seriousness now looking back on it, it was Scotty Scheffler, who, again I was completely in the wrong. I don't care if there's a police officer, if someone's wearing a vest of security guard, you listen to him,
especially in that situation. Scotty Scheffler completely in the wrong. But just to hear Darlington, what was that like a minute forty of just like a breakdown of all the of all the things, like you know, we have serious news in New Orleans today, and like Jeff Darlington was delivering it at that level.
It's crazy, it was. That was a weird one, like is this really happening? Just really happening again, Not to that level. I've had plenty of those of similar moments where you guys know me, Like if you give me a parking pass or a badge to attend somewhere, anything more than five minutes before is a good chance I don't have it when it's time to go in, right, Yes, it's a really good chance. And you know, I always think one of the good things about being kind of
an average looking guy is you can be inconspicuous. The only bad thing about being an average looking guy is you can be inconspicuous and there's no benefits of you know, like if I'm six foot seven and I kept walking in, everybody, oh well you've got to be a player, or somebody knows who you are. But I would also tell you that, like part of the the Cheffler not knowing do indeed do you know who I am? You know, is like everywhere he goes, everyone knows every in his own orbit.
This never happens, you know, it never happens. Everybody knows who you are, and so all of a sudden, a cop who's working at the golf tournament doesn't know who you are. You just it's really like what, I don't know. It was a crazy one.
Len. He shot sixty six five under, had himself in the contention, but everything got up with him on Saturday.
Yeah.
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I just what an awful, awful event in New Orleans. I know, Dan, I was listening to your your update on In fact, they don't think it effect the Sugar Bowl. And I do understand you're talking about you know, one hundred thousand people or whatever, eighty thousand people plus all of the other parts to it. And I don't know
what an extra day would do. But I don't know that's a terror attack by definition of the word right down the street, and we can say, well, it doesn't have any effect in the game, Like, what are we actually talking about? You know, do you just play the sport? Does the show must go on? I guess I don't. You know, that's a hard one, but I do think you have to have at least a conversation of hey, are we doing the right thing by playing this playing this deal and they.
Will play it.
There hasn't been any mention of a possible delay or discussion authorities meeting the media giving details, and obviously that's a topic of conversation. And you also have two teams coming in from Georgia and Notre Dame that have fan bases. Not that not that it matters where any of the victims are from. Every life loss is tragic, but you know there are people in town for that. They said that the the those who lost their lives mostly mostly locals.
But again, it doesn't matter, just more information on it. But yeah, I think it would just be difficult because of the If it was a Saints game, Doug, maybe you know, maybe you move it to am Monday night. But because you have these two fan bases coming in and likely flying out the next day or leaving the next day driving. I think it's it's difficult to do that. Just they said that the game is not at risk. They don't feel that there's any threat to the game.
You'd expect that there would be beefed up security with you know, with what they you know, would have They had tons of security out last night, and you know, something like this still was able to happen. But yeah, you'd expect that tonight. But they don't expect, they don't expect the game to be altered in any way.
Yeah, it's just terrible, terrible stuff. So I know, thoughts and prayers, you know, fall short of real kind of empathy for what's going on. But that's the only thing we can we can do. And I actually do agree with the idea of playing the game. I don't want to, I just I do think you have to go, like, are we doing the right thing here? And you know, it's just it's very likely too big a ship to
turn around, you know, just it just is. But it's you know, I don't care where anybody's from, the fact is that anyone who goes down to to New Orleans for the Sugar Bowl goes to Bourbon. Right, you may go for Bignet's in the morning, but you're going to go to Bourbon And now that's a it's a crime scene, it's a it's a crime it's just awful, awful stuff. All right, let's get to some some better things that will happen today. This is the Dan Patrick Show. He's Dampire.
I'm I'm Gottlieben for Dan and the Danette. Jason Stewart, our steam producer, is alongside as well. Quick recap of last night again and I'll just Dan, I'm gonna use your breakdown because I thought mine was way too wordy, which was there was never a point in which you thought Penn State was going to lose that football game. So what about today? As now we have what feels like much more evenly matched matchups? Right? Does it feels you know we've we've anyone who's questionable is no longer
in the field. It doesn't mean that we know exactly how good Arizona State is against the Texas, but I'm not sure we know how good Texas truly is. Georgia takes on Notre Dame in the Night Gap, but the game that I think everyone points to as this could very easily be a national championship game. Is Ohio State Oregon? And while you sit there and go, well, Ohio State lost to Michigan, Yes they did, and O did lose to Oregon. And of course the Michigan loss was at
home by three points. Their offense did nothing in the second half, nothing, but they turned around and put forty two up on Tennessee. And now they take on the Ducks, who they played before. They play them in the Granddaddy of them all. They play them in the Rose Bowl. It's the closest thing we have to an actual Rose Bowl with an old Pac ten Big ten matchup. Dan
is a gigantic Ohio State fan. Gigantic Your feelings going into these games, Going in this game is if you had to parry down to one word, what would it be?
Nervous? There's yeah, it's but not for There are so many storylines going about, but I feel that every single storyline is about Ohio State, every single one. Like we're not talking about Oregon. We're talking about Ryan Day. We're talking about Ohio State turning it on against Tennessee. We're talking about revenge. We're talking about pass interference and just like the entire season, Oregon's going dund da da, dun da da. We'll just keep winning and going on about
our business. And you know, it's funny with the Giants Eagles conversation that we had of saying, like, wouldn't that just be the ultimate you know, bleep you to the Giants, where the Eagles are just like, yeah, we don't care. You know, We're gonna sit say kwon. There's a little bit of that aspect with this where I just think like Oregon's like, okay, go ahead, keep talking. You know, yep, you guys are the ones that are going to make
the adjustments. It's just very naive to think that while it was such a close game in Eugene, and that maybe Ohio State played its best game of the year against Tennessee, that Oregon just wouldn't have gotten better or Oregon wouldn't have improved. That's, you know, that's foolish to think of that.
I think, yeah, your your apprehension, your nervousness is you know, this is a giget. It's totally unfair, but this is the you know, this is the business has chosen right for Ryan Day. Totally unfair, but like this is everything, you know, and everyone was on him last week and they go in mollywomp Tennessee. Right, And again, I don't know whether it's the beer dye or you know, the records against the ranked teams or whatever. I did think
there was. You know, Oregon was very very clever obviously with their manipulation of the rules when they played, when they won the game at Audsen, which is in fact coaching. And you know, and look Dan Lanning, whether it's the pregame, halftime videos or just the overall positivity and energy whatever it is, like he's kind of it doesn't mean you win the game, but in terms of public opinion, he
wins public opinion ahead of ahead of Ryan Day. Right, yeah, So I'm just it's it's this game is everything to Ryan Day.
I think if you had a college football coaching draft right now of the coaches in college football, and it's not because they're number one. Maybe because they are number one, that doesn't make this as big of a deal. But I think Dan Lanning's your number one pick of all the coaches out there. And I know Kirby Smart and Georgia like hold on, wait a second, hear but there seems to be something about a guy who, by the way, where'd he come from? Came from Georgia. But they're just
as there's something about him. There's something about his attitude, their confidence. We've always talked about the Oregon resources, but yeah, and the culture that they've built. Yeah, my goodness. I mean he's done a spectacular job. I mean, we look at bone Nicks now and Sean Payton deserves some credit, but there was there was an Auburn Bonicks and Auburn Bonicks has been completely erased from our memory, correct because of Oregon Bonicks and now Denver Bronco Bonicks.
And I would also say Dylan Gabriel much the same you know at Central Floord when he was at Oklahoma last year. Remember Oklahoma let him go right, let's not forget, you know, and and they thought they had an answer that was better than Dylan Gabriel. And the thought was, Dylan Gabriel you top out when you get to the really really high level stuff. He just going He's gonna
top out. That was the feeling from last year. And you're like, you don't know there, right, I mean, yes, Oregon could have come in with a big bag but guys like that at Oklahoma. Oklahoma has plenty of money, plenty of money, and they wanted to fix it. They sat there and said to themselves, we're good, we're good.
We have something better, you know. And he was a you know, a freshman starting quarterback who you know, red shirt and Jackson Arnold and Jacksonarland started three games and they pulled him and they put him back in, they pulled him again or whatever. But they thought Jet Jackson ardal was better than Dylan Gabriel. So just and I'm
with you on bo Nicks. People forget bo Nicks started as a freshman at his dad's alma monitored Auburn, and Auburn fans are like dude road game bow Knicks not good enough, goes to Oregon and good enough and Dylan Gabriel kind of much the same. So I'm with you, and all these things can be true. But the game feels like it's all about Ryan Day. Yeah, it's all about Ryan Day.
It's a lot, a lot of a lot of Ohio State, a lot of it.
Yeah, yeah, do you take anything like I know that Herbie's taking a beating on social media, not that that matters the SEC losses. The two SEC losses yesterday, Does that help the argument of the other conferences.
I don't think so.
What I do find is how America is united against the SEC, because at one point I just felt that each conference, and specifically as a Big ten guy, I felt like the Big ten had to fight their own battles. But now you have one less conference in the PAC twelve, So maybe the reaches has that's expanded, and since now the SEC has expanded, some of the Big twelves probably felt the heat. I feel there's more anti SEC than anything. I don't think that Alabama really was too interested in
playing that game, taking nothing away from Michigan. You know, South Carolina Illinois sure seemed like a different sort of deal. But yeah, I don't read a lot into it. I don't think the SEC has got doug for all the SEC talk that we had. Again, I just go back to the Georgia Tech Georgia game for the team that we feel is the standard bear in that conference. You know, Georgia Tech could have won that game late in the year and in changed things. I just didn't think that
the SEC was as great as it was. So it's not like a piling on. For me, I don't think it makes a difference. My feelings about the league are are basically the same as what they were prior.
Well, the ultimate equalizer for these things, for these leagues is quarterback play, and that's what's going to be interesting, right is That's what happened with the PAC twelve last year and it's last year of existence, and pretty obvious you had some studs at quarterback, which can even out when there's a talent disparity. Maybe not even out, but relatively level of playing field when there's a talent disparity. Okay, the Sugar Bowl, which we started by talking about, like
that feels like that's a pick em. That's a pick em, and it's a weird thing. Again, Yes, I agree, most of the world is anti feels anti SEC, just because they've been so dominant for I think, for so long, and there's so much discussion and assumption that they're ultimately going to have a couple of SEC teams in the National Championship Game. Have you noticed? I feel like Marcus Freeman is the Zion Williamson. What Zion Williamson was to Duke,
is Marcus Freeman to Notre Dame. Zion Williamson made Duke likable right, like no one when he was in college, Like everybody like watching Zion Wamson like gay plays for Duke, Like okay, And I'm not a duke cater. I do know that the duke caters exist and they are allowed group, right, and Notre Dame is the same thing. It's usually a national celebration when Notre Dame loses a college football playoff game or a BCS game, right, or a big game
of this magnitude. People just like they've they've heard enough about Notre Dame and all of the history history stuff, which none of it has helped him out in modern day football. And I think Notre Dame has been a hell of a program here for the last decade, spanning the last couple of coaches. But Marcus Freeman is seems so much more likable than a Brian Kelly that he's
like he has the Desion Wins effect. Like I actually think that a lot of America is going to be cheering for Notre Dame to win this game over Georgia. Part of it is Georgia's overall dominance the SEC, but a lot of it is people just like Marcus Freeman think like that's a kind of dude I want to see winning.
For sure. That's interesting.
I hadn't thought about that that there there is some arrogance that automatically comes with being the Notre Dame head coach, even if you're I mean.
Lou Holtz, obviously, the.
Brian Kelly is you just mentioned, even Charlie Weiss for that matter, there is something with it. And I also think that the SEC then plays into the to the Georgia stuff. A Pickham game, I'd be curious to see what it would be if Carson Beck was healthy. I'm not sure how different it would be, but I would have to think that it would at least be a little different that it would favor Georgia. But Gunnar Stockton's going to have everything that he you know, on his
plate and more tonight. That sounds very cliche. But the one thing that I will say is it's funny because for how good this Notre Dame team is, Doug when we talk about do you let the little guy into the bracket, what do you do well? Northern Illinois probably had the win of the year in college football when they went to Notre Dame and one in September.
You know, So there's there's.
Always that bug a boof for when you look at how good, you know, Notre Dame is and Notre Dame's playing really really well, it's you look at that that blemish on their record and you're like, oh, yeah, northern Northern Illinois.
And even if the Notre Dame would have run round the table, they still.
Would have been, you know, where they are on the bright they would have been a five seed, but they wouldn't have got a first round by because they're not in the conference. But yeah, just just unique with the Irish and everything, the lone blemish being I.
You yeah and uh and I you fired their coach too, like you beat note in the year in which you beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame and you lose your job. College sports man can't beat it. And then of course got Arizona State, Texas As. Kenny Dellingham got an extension, so he's, yeah, not going anywhere.
Jake Plumber on yesterday and I thought, I was kind of curious, what are you going to do? Maybe he knew something at the time that we didn't, But that news came out after the interview.
Yeah, and of course they take on Texas, and Texas says beaten everybody they played except for the Dogs, and they lost to the Dogs twice, the second time in overtime. Will they get a third shot at the Dogs? They got to survive Arizona State and Cam Scatabo if you haven't seen him, he's a transfer from Sack State, played the last two years at Arizona State.
And yeah, Jason Stewart's got a firsthand look at Cam Scattabo. Jason and your in person scouting, I know you were able to check him out in still Water. Well what kind of game do you think that Scataboo had? First of all, I want to give some context to this for listeners who don't know. Doug got us amazing seats to was it Boo picken stadium?
Boone pickin Stadium's boone?
Did you say bo he said?
Boom? He said boo.
Booon Pickens you are my boom.
No.
We had great seats and we were able to catch a quarter of the game before the game was postponed for several hours due to weather. And in that one quarter I saw some magic with Arizona State. It might have had something to do with the fact that Oklahoma State had a dummies for their defense. They played zero defense in that quarter that I saw. But I saw some magic with Arizona State.
Doug, Yeah, I mean okamis stated, I think statistically was the worst power five power four defense in the country. But Cam Scattaboy is pretty awesome to watch, pretty awesome to watch. This is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Dan Byrom Doug Gottlie. All right, coming up next, we'll take one final look back at sports in twenty twenty four. They said what you'll hear it next. First, cars today are built to last, but how they look is up to you. That's where Mako
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