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The Plan to Defeat Critics of Israel in Congress

Jun 25, 202431 min
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A powerful group supporting Israel is trying to defeat sitting members of Congress who have criticized the country’s deadly war against Hamas.

Nicholas Fandos, who covers New York politics for The Times, explains why it appears that strategy may work in today’s Democratic primary in New York.

Guest: Nicholas Fandos, who covers New York politics and government for The New York Times.

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From New York Times, I'm Michael Barrow. This is The Daily. A powerful group supporting Israel is trying to defeat sitting members of Congress who have criticized the country's deadly war against Hamas. In today's Democratic primary in New York, it appears that strategy may work. My colleague, Nick Fando's, explains. It's Tuesday, June 25th. Nick, by the time people listen to this episode, voting will have begun in this congressional race,

and Democrats across the country are watching really closely. In a way, it feels like it's become a test of what a Democrat in office in Congress can or can't say about the war in Gaza. Let's start at the beginning with the congressman who is at the center of this race.

So we're talking here about Congressman Jamal Bowman. He represents the district just north of New York City. That includes parts of the Bronx and cities like Yonkers and Mount Vernon, but also suburbs like Largemont and Scarstale. He's a former middle school principal, a lifelong educator who was never in politics until 2019 and 2020. When he decided I'm going to take on a big powerful incumbent in my district.

Why run for Congress? Simple answer is when to do everything in my power to meet the needs of my students and families beyond the classroom. And he did it from the left. When you look throughout the district, you see pockets of the district where poverty is higher than 20%. Right. You see pockets where the rent burdens are as high as 57%. While another part of the district, you see incredible wealth and incredible affluence and incredible opportunity.

So remember, this was right at the height of the COVID pandemic. The election actually took place in the weeks after the killing of George Floyd. And the whole country was up in arms. It was really thinking about race and equity, thinking about power and whether the United States was moving quickly enough towards the goals that it professes to have.

And I put my run for Congress on the side for a moment and just speak to you as a black man in America and as someone who's lived there this entire life. And Bowman was really able to capture that energy as a younger black man who was not in politics speaks like a real person. I never saw anyone that looked like me that sounded like me that came from the places that I've come from that spoke the language that mattered to me.

Bowman, the race was about race and policing and Donald Trump and the feeling that the Democratic Party was not fighting hard enough, fast enough on all of these issues. I never saw anyone centering poverty and the working class and immigrants and those who are most vulnerable in our country. And his slogan was jobs and education, not bombs and incarceration. Thank you so much. My name is Jamal Bowman. I'm running for Congress in this district for 16th district. Please go out and vote.

And thank you for considering us as your next congressman. Now, his opponent, Elliot Engel, was in his 70s. He'd been in Congress more than 30 years. So, Committee Chairman, who was definitely more moderate than Bowman. So, in a sense, this becomes a perfect distillation of the outsider versus the establishment insider at a moment. Like you just said, where that is the question of the moment. Exactly. Bowman was really able to capitalize on a couple of instances where Engel looked out of touch.

In one case, he was caught having stayed in Washington for the early weeks and months of the pandemic. Instead of in the district. Yeah, far away from his district. And then when he does show up, he's caught on a hot mic begging for a speaking slaughtered event. And it's just too many folks here. I have a memory of what he cares. Sit down again. I have a primary. I wouldn't care. Don't do that today. We're not going to do this today.

Saying something to the effect of, I wouldn't care except I've got a primary. Right. I remember that moment. It was incredibly embarrassing because here's a congressman already under fire for being MIA from his district in the pandemic. Saying I need to talk at this news conference. Not because I necessarily care. But because I'm in a primary battle against Jamal Bowman. And I need voters to see me speaking and to think that I care. Right. That's certainly what it looks like.

And Bowman, on the other hand, seems so in and of this moment that come election day. He sales. He beats Engel by double digits. And it's received at the time as kind of proof of the left's ascendancy. This is only a couple of years after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won her seat. The squad formed in Washington that far left group of lawmakers. Right. And when Bowman arrives in Washington, he reinforces their ranks.

And adds to this kind of growing progressive block that in the early days of the Biden administration seems to be exercising a lot of power. And one really emblematic moment where Bowman and the squad try and flex their muscle is around President Biden's signature infrastructure bill. Remember, this is a big trillion dollar program to build roads and bridges and replace lead pipes.

And originally, there had been a democratic proposal to pair it with another bill more focused on climate change and some social policy that progressives really liked. And the two get split apart and the left is really upset about that. So in order to try and get negotiating leverage to get that other climate bill passed, Bowman and a bunch of the squad and other progressives vote against the infrastructure bill. Time to vote against one of Biden's biggest legislative priorities.

And say it's not that we're against it, but we need to have both. So far, Nick, all of this very much feels in keeping with the way Bowman campaign. He's governing as the outsider progressive that he said he would be. Yeah, I think that's right. He's pretty consistent. And frankly, he's getting along all right in Washington. I mean, some people don't like those positions, but generally speaking, he's in good standing until two very consequential weeks last fall.

And what happens in those two weeks? So let me just set the scene here. It's late September. Conservative Republicans are pulling Congress towards a government shutdown. They're in on a Saturday. Things are a total mess. Nobody knows if the government's going to be able to pay its bills or find a solution. And in the middle of all of this, Jamal Bowman is trying to rush to the Capitol to get to a vote. He gets to a door that he usually expects to go out. It's locked. He tries it.

And then what does he do? He pulls a fire alarm. New York congressman Jamal Bowman, the former school principal, caught red handed, pulling the fire alarm inside a house office building. It sends the Capitol basically into chaos, becomes a two day news cycle. He's a principal in my schools. We did fire drills. You know exactly what happens when you pull a fire alarm. All these national cameras are already paying attention. And now here's this crazy side show.

He violated the exact same law that January 6th defenits are being prosecuted for every single day. Interrupting an official proceeding. He said after the fact that he was trying to open the door. But generally, you don't pull a fire alarm to open a door. His explanation that he did this by accident also falls. It's the reason that I've asked the House Ethics Committee to review this. An eventually Bowman is actually charged and pleads guilty to a misdemeanor for a false fire alarm.

Listen, you know, I pulled a fire alarm. I did not do it to disrupt the court proceeding. Like I said, I was trying to get out the door. I was rushing to evoke. I'm thankful that we have an agreement in place. I'm thankful in three months it's going to be dismissed. And now let's move on. He has to pay a fine and apologize. And so it's just a real kind of black eye on his public image.

Right, embarrassing ill-advised, but at the end of the day, not anything that's going to necessarily endanger his career. Yeah, no, that's right. I think if it had just been that alone, he gets past it. But almost exactly a week later is October 7th. When Hamas attacks Israel brutally, takes hostages, leaves 1200 Israelis dead. And really usheres in a new moment in American politics and particularly for Democrats who have been divided on Israel for quite a while.

Particularly this kind of the left wing squad from the rest of the party. And those divisions are just kind of blown up in the days and weeks after October 7th. And Bowman, of all people, throws himself right into the middle of the wreckage. We acknowledge the trauma and the pain and the fear. He condemns Hamas's attack on October 7th, but then just days later calls for a ceasefire in the region, essentially saying Israel should not defend itself.

And that's a position I should note, by the way, that is way out ahead of President Biden, who hadn't even gone yet at that point to Israel to give Benjamin Netanyahu that famous hug and say that the United States was standing with Israel. You're calling for some weird ceasefire that isn't going to come, anything other than Hamas, give Hamas, which is basically an ISIS organization, time to regroup and kill more Jews.

Never say ever that I'm okay with the killing of Jews, ever say that, ever because no one, this is insane. Now, from Bowman's point of view, this is consistent with the way that he views international politics. Remember the no-bombs part of his slogan. Right. He wants Israel here to not meet violence with violence to find some sort of diplomatic or political solution. Let me just be very clear. It's one thing to support Israel, which the US has always done and will continue to do.

It's another thing to never hold Israel accountable for their behavior, whether it's related to the occupation, the open and prison at his Gaza, or the war crimes that are taking place right now during this siege. I mean, Israel. Bowman sees this as a clear moral case.

I think he relates what's happening in Israel to the racial justice, struggle in the United States that he's familiar with to the economic struggle. Israel to him is a powerful nation that is not making good on its own promises as a democracy and as oppressing Palestinians. And the Muslim community, the Arab community and Palestinians, received that as a racer and even further receive it as dehumanization.

So it sounds like in this moment, Bowman is becoming the public face of left-wing congressional Democrats, weariness, and skepticism of Israel at an exceptionally sensitive moment. Yes. And in the weeks that would follow, he goes there again and again and again. So he's one of the first lawmakers not only to call for a ceasefire, but then to accuse Israel of committing genocide in Gaza once its counteroffensive begins.

He begins calling for the United States to cut off all military aid to Israel, which is one of its closest allies in the middle of this war, saying basically American taxpayer dollars shouldn't be going to bombs. At one point he's caught on video saying that claimed that Hamas use sexual violence against women around October 7th is quote propaganda. Later he apologized for those remarks and all of this really adds to Bowman's prestige on the left.

He becomes a big figure, a galvanizing figure really in this energized anti-war movement around Gaza. But at the same time, he's taking a huge political risk. His district, which remember is just north of New York City, is quite diverse. It's got a big black and Latino population. But it also is home to one of the largest Jewish populations in the country. And many of his constituents in that community feel betrayed.

And not only that, back in Washington, pro-Israel groups who exercise a huge amount of power are furious at Bowman. They look at everything that's happening and they think he's got an election coming. We might be able to defeat him and in so doing make an example out of him. We'll be right back. So Nick, tell us about this well-funded effort by supporters of Israel to try to make an example of Congressman Bowman. To answer that mic, please, please.

So Nick, tell us about this well-funded effort by supporters of Israel to try to make an example of Congressman Bowman. To answer that, Michael, let's take a little bit of a step back in time and talk about APEG, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which is a bipartisan group that's been around for a long time,

and it's really is to advance Israel's interests in the United States. Traditionally, they've had very strong relationships with presidents and legislative leaders in both parties. They've been really effective, frankly, at creating a consensus in Congress and in Washington more broadly to send military aid and defense to help protect Israel and the Middle East from its neighbors.

They pay for lawmakers to travel to Israel and see the country, and they've long endorsed candidates that they see as friends of Israel and even made small donations. And then more recently, they began to take much bigger overt political steps.

A couple of years ago, they formed a super PAC for the first time, and they're doing it because they're watching that consensus that they work so hard to build, start to crumble, and particularly on the left, among young voters, and particularly young Democratic voters, and Democratic voters of color, who no longer see Israel in the way that maybe their parents or grandparents generation did. And for APEG, the embodiment of that change is the squad.

Then October 7th happens and intensifies all of these dynamics. And APEG senses a real existential threat. And so they go and they survey the electoral landscape. They look at all the members of the squad and other progressives in Congress who are critical of Israel and are trying to change the American relationship to it, and they figure out, okay, where could we go in electorally and could we knock some of these people out? And how do they end up zeroing in on Bowman of all people?

So beating incumbents is not the easiest thing to do. So in many cases, they look at some of their biggest critics, people like Rashida Taliib or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and they simply can't find a viable challenger. These guys are smart, they've run political campaigns before they don't want to put good money after bad and wasted.

But Bowman, they look at him and think this guy is beatable. Not only do they not like what he's saying about Israel, but in this case, they are able to find a primary challenger who is not only credible, but is deeply popular in the district. And who is that? I'm George Lathamur. The opponent is George Lathamur. I've served in my local city hall. I've served in the county and the state legislature, and now it's wishes to county executive to focus on getting results. It's not just rhetoric.

It's a well-known democratic fixture who first entered politics in the Reagan era, and now serves as the county executive of Westchester County, which is the biggest county in the district. We've seen Israel created 75 years ago as a valid country. It has a right to exist, and it has a right to exist on defensible borders. And he's also, importantly, staunchly pro-Israel. I think the Israeli people need to see that they have a partner for peace, and they don't see a partner for peace right now.

And Democrat, frankly, in the mold of that old consensus model, who is willing to stand by United States ally Israel through thick and thin. And I have taken the position for a legislative to take a future legislator, is to work through your legislative bodies and try to influence the president in that fashion. So, in the fall, he starts getting outreach from local rabbis and Jewish leaders in the district to jump in, and APEC gives him some encouragement as well.

So, in a sense, APEC is helping to recruit Latimer to run against women. Right, and not only do they help to recruit him, but once he does get in the race and establishes, I'm a supporter of Israel, they begin raising very large amounts of money directly for his campaign, and in time their Super PAC start spending far, far more to advance his candidacy. And what does it look like for APEC's Super PAC to advance Latimer's candidacy in this primary?

So, since mid-May APEC Super PAC has spent upwards of $14.5 million in this race. That's just over a month. Yeah, it's a huge amount of money. Something like almost $17,000 an hour at one point. And if you add it all up, it's actually not only more than APEC has ever spent in a single race, it's more than any outside group. Any Super PAC has ever spent in a house race. George Latimer is putting people ahead of personal agendas and delivering real, progressive results.

So, some of that money actually goes towards a positive act, trying to improve Latimer's image as a good progressive who stands by President Biden. But Latimer will take on Mag-A-Extremus, and he'll work with President Biden to keep delivering progressive results. But most of it is reserved for attacks on Bowman. He is the deal. I used to be for Jamal Bowman, but not anymore. Bowman put his extreme ideology ahead of us. One of only six Democrats to oppose the historic infrastructure bill.

So, they bring back that infrastructure vote. And the idea is basically to try and paint Bowman as a disloyal Democrat, somebody who's attacking the President and is a chaos agent in Washington. Bowman called President Biden a liar. Jamal Bowman has his own agenda, and he's hurting New York. Now, notably, notice I have not mentioned Israel because none of these ads, at least none of the ones on TV, mention Israel. Why would that be?

Why would APEC, which is clearly in the business of protecting Israel, run a bunch of TV ads against Jamal Bowman, who they object to because of his use on Israel, and not mention those use on Israel ads? Yeah, it's a great question, and it's one that's inspired Bowman and his supporters to be like, what gives?

So, from APEC's point of view, the logic is that voters in the district who really care about Israel, no matter which side they're on, have probably already made up their mind about Jamal Bowman. They're not going to be persuaded. But there's a big bunch of primary voters who may not be following the war that closely.

But they are loyal Democrats, they like President Biden, they're interested in beating Trump this fall, and they are susceptible to seeing ads about a guy who seems to be bucking the President, who's out of the mainstream, and not representing them. Interesting.

So, an effective strategy from a group supporting Israel is not necessarily to talk about Israel in this campaign, but to talk about the way that a Democrat, Jamal Bowman in this case, is letting down his party's president, is letting down his party, is basically being disloyal to the Democratic Party, not necessarily Israel. Yes, and so far from what we can tell, it seems to be pretty effective. Explain that.

So, when I'm out in the district talking to voters, a really interesting thing has started happening. Many of them, when I asked them their views on Vladimir and Bowman, start quoting back to me, or citing facts, that are very prominently being featured in these commercials. Now, often they think it's their own idea, but in political advertising, this is a sign of real success.

And voters are thinking about infrastructure, they're thinking about loyalty, they're thinking about Bowman as a chaos agent. And I don't think it's an accident that they're thinking about those things. It's not an accident because they're getting those views. You're suggesting from these now ubiquitous ads. Exactly. So ubiquitous that some households are getting dozens of malers, a week reinforcing these points, and some of these apex ads have been viewed upwards of 180 million times.

Wow. 180 million. At Mancestown, it's complete saturation. What you're describing here is anecdotal reporting that you've done in the district. What are the polls telling us about the state of this race between Bowman and Vladimir? There has not been as much credible polling in this race as we would like, but what we have seen in polls that have come out is that Vladimir has opened up a very large lead, double digits.

And while it's hard to exactly attribute cause and effect here, I think everyone would agree that you spend $15 million is going to have an impact on the way voters think and eventually poll on the ballot. Right. OK, these ads do seem to be very much hurting to mobile. There are certainly not helping. OK, what does Bowman have to say about the fact that he has become the target of a group like A back in this race?

Bowman's response has been really interesting because where other politicians, I think, faced with this set of circumstances who want to get reelected, might kind of pull back or moderate some of their harshest positions, Bowman has totally stood firm where he is and he has actually leaned into the A-PAC ads and made A-PAC a central point of his campaign, arguing that they are the representation of everything that's wrong with big money in American politics,

that they're coming in and have basically not only bought his opponent, but are now trying to buy an election. And oh, by the way, they may be a bipartisan group, but they're doing with big checks from Republican mega donors. And they're coming after me, not just because of my position on Israel, but because those donors don't like the other things I stand for. The progressive values, my outspokenness is a black man.

He's really made this a kind of referendum in his words of the money versus the money, and by what he means by that is all this money versus the people who don't have that much money but are fighting against entrenched corporate interests. He's basically taking it back to his original 2020 Democratic primary when he was running on a message of me versus the establishment. Exactly, and he says the establishment never liked me.

And this strategy has really worked to kind of galvanize the national progressive movement. They've really rallied around him. They've donated money, groups like Justice Democrats have emptied their bank accounts to try and save him. What's up, what's up, what's up? And all of this came together this past weekend at a rally in the Bronx. What's up, New York?

Where Representative of Acasio Cortez and Bernie Sanders joined Bowman and a bunch of other progressives, some of whom flew in from his far away as Florida. And Bowman was really fired up. And because they see the power of our movement, they are spending more money than has ever been spent in American history, y'all. He framed us if their whole movement was on the line. APEC is scared to death. We are not going to stand silent while US tax dollars kills babies, and women, and children.

And profanely, again and again, ripped into APEC and what they're doing in this race. People ask me why I got a foul mouth. What am I supposed to do? You coming after me? I just want to say Michael, because I was there. Bowman very well may keep this seat. But the man on that stage was certainly acting like he was up against the wall and had nothing to lose. He was letting it all rip. Nothing that APEC can do is going to stop our liberation. Nothing. They have all ready lost.

Nick, if Bowman does lose, and we have to be really clear on the if-ness of that question, it's a summer primary. Turnouts going to be who knows? We're in the middle of a heat wave here. The polling's been kind of subpar. But if Bowman loses, I have to imagine APEC will claim this as a big victory for its cause. We'll say we have made an example of this member of Congress.

But taking out a lawmaker, I have to think, is very different than rebuilding a consensus around support for Israel, which is APEC's real goal, isn't it? Absolutely. This is such an important point, Michael, because as we've said, APEC's real goal here is to maintain or reinstate a consensus support for Israel and the United States. And that has to do with both who's in Congress and who the people electing them are.

And you can take people out of Congress, and they may succeed in taking out Bowman. They may succeed later this summer in another primary in Missouri and taking out representative Cory Bush. Another member of the squad. Exactly.

But if they're not changing the minds of the people who elect them, if they're not actually running ads that are trying to change those people's minds, running candidates that are trying to change those people's minds, who's to say that in the future, when circumstances are different or candidates don't have the flaws that Bowman maybe did, that those voters aren't just going to keep electing more politicians that APEC doesn't like.

And it seems to me that in this race, not only have they missed an opportunity to try and move voters in the direction they want, they may actually be spawning a bigger backlash that could cause them further problems down the line. The very people that they're trying to win back, I think have only seen their distrust for APEC grow. Right. And perhaps by proxy Israel itself. Exactly. And in the long term, that seems to make the problem worse, not better.

But at the same time, for APEC, a win's a win. And they seem to be saying that they are willing to let that longer term battle over democratic hearts and minds play out another day. Because right now they have a much more urgent question and problem in front of them. And that is the war that's going on with Hamas and the need for American military aid. And so the composition of this Congress matters a lot to Israel right now and it matters a lot to APEC.

And a defeat of somebody like Jamal Bowman not only takes out one of their critics, but it sends a message to everybody else in Congress who may be considering voting to cut off aid or criticizing Israel in other ways that you're either with us or we're coming after you next. And that chilling effect for APEC may be the most important victory of all. Onik, thank you very much. Always a pleasure, Michael. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today.

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