The Snowpiercer Climate Solution, King Charles Coronation Flop 03.03.2023

courtesy christ I'm a Gucci man. Shout out to Shout out to him. Also shout out to him. So the thing that was stuck in my head to come loft us up where we was actually the first ay ka he ever wrote for our guest host today Emmy nominated writer, artist, comedian behind many unacclaimed podcasts. Great podcast guests. If you listen to your wrong about and author of the upcoming book Raw Dog, which if you like Jamie Loftus, if you like this podcast, you are truly going to love it.

It's so readable, it's just the pages fly by hope for it's no but like that is the thing for me. It's like some books are like good, but I'm just like my eyes reject them. And Raw Dog is incredibly readable. It is it goes down very easy and is so funny, so good, so smart. She's here all week, folks. It's Jamie. I've been on the road searching for a dog that's long enough. Maybe you can show me one I love. Maybe I'm going through withdraws. I don't even need to

eat a bunch. I am satisfied with just a touch. Baby. My fridge is cold and empty. Oh, like a rink that's used for hockey. Oh son, He says, I need some ice and rough dogs. I said, oh, these bony nights. No, I guess sleep ben Tilla smooth that slush. I said, Oh, I'm hosting Daily's eight and I read about hot dogs. Order the book. That's a Christy you have a Gucci main original. I feel fitting for the cycle today, folks. He's really been churning out the hits for well over

half a decade. He's like had an unrun one of our greatest weird Al Yankovic sho truly just a run unlike you know. It's just been ninety six bulls with this guy on on and on and on. It's incredible, weird, look like normal, Al Yankovic. He's so good. Wow, I think that a compliment right by the Yeah, regular regular regular Alfred. I was like, what, I don't know, no clue. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

by a comedy writer, podcast producer, animator, actor. You know from podcasts like Left Handed Radio and the new podcast w LHR Fake Radio. It's Adam Bozer, Cocaine Bear snowding Hollywood snow in his cocaine layer. Nice, I love it. Wish Swish from way downtown boz Ar, what's come on? It's good to be back up. The name of your new show, is it w LAHR fake public Radio? Public radio? I mean it's still it's still fake radio. It's not incorrect. M Yeah. There was more of a description and it

was a shorthand, and that's why I did it. Yeah, because I'm so familiar with it. Well, thank you for doing the lord's work and making fun of public radio. NPR is frequent subject of I don't know. It's a silly it's a very silly world that demands that you take it seriously. And it Uh, it's it's a lot of fun. Like. One of the shows we did was we made a Halloween version of The Daily called The Nightly with Michael Barbaric. Oh yeah, scared, I'm already scared. Yeah,

it was. It was pretty We interviewed Freddy Krueger about white kids aren't easy to terrify anymore? Does he have the same the same pausing oh yeah, same, Oh good, Yeah, we did. The It started because I was doing the Michael Barbaro voice but doing the the silver Shamrock ads from Halloween three, where I would just be it's almost time, kids, it's your favorite Halloween three, the Spooky Witch, scary Silton Head, Damn, Michael Barbara sounds like he wants to fuck me, what's

going on? My favorite barbaroism is when he's like that convention where it's like I'm trying to connect my zoom call. I can't get it on, and you're like, man, I know you're a person. Just start at the part where you're talking. Just edit that out. I know, yeah, I know you have an editor, Michael. I know that it took them extra work to not edit that out right. It's weirder that you texted them to leave it in. Leave it in the part where I was struggling with

my zoom call leave it in. People are going to connect with that heart. Yeah, that's that's very similitude. That's what that's what people are looking for in their podcast. I was trying to I haven't listened to the Daily so for so long that I was trying to do a Michael Barbaro like mmmm vocalization, but I did master p instead. Make them say, I wonder if anyone's done that the Barbaro vocalization. Make them say, anyways, the internet, you have your homework. That's the that's the noise of

public radio. Is that that? Yeah, Yeah, gives the discord twenty minutes, it'll be done. Thank you, Thank you, Discord. The Discord is wonderful. I do. I do enjoy it. Anyways, Adam, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today. We're gonna talk about the UN has raised the idea once again that we should start like reflecting the Sun's raise against the earth away from the Earth to keep to

combat global warming. They're like, well, no one's gonna stop polluting the earth, so now let's pollute it in another direction, like a different direction, which is the inciting incident for snow Piercer or I guess it's not the inciting incident, but it's the thing that it's like the sky Net, We're just we have just competing post apocalyptic scenarios. We've got sky Net, you know, chat GPT, and then snow Piercer has entered the Ring and the un is advocating

for it. So it raises a bunch of new questions. So we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about Elon Musk brain chip not good, Elon must bad brain chip? No, okay, no, I'm prepared to debate about that. Yeah, I actually have some thoughts and Elon's a genius. We're gonna talk about King Charles's carnation. I still feel so weird for him

to be called King. I know, it's it's amazing. I'm just so hopeful that somebody is taking behind the scenes footage of the planning of this coronation, because he like the very small snippets we got of his pen running out of Ink and him just having like a mental breakdown over it, like these like I want that for all of this because nobody wants to play his coronation Like he all his favorite musicians that he asked, nobody

wants to do it. Really, Yeah, I can't keeps getting turned down by Adele and Edge Shearon being rejected by Ed Charon. I wouldn't show my face. I wouldn't show my face for years. He just seems I know he's very famous, but he just seems like he's available, right, just generally constantly available to all also the Spice Girls, Robbie Williams and Elton John So you don't even need to like currently be producing hits to turn down King King World Coronation. But this coordination had time to go

on the circle and they don't. I know, this coordination is just I love every everything about it. Like just they were like, do we need to just like rush it out because he's such a mess, and like so just pathetic that like we like we don't want people

paying attention to it. But now they've like paused it for long enough and they're like, we're gonna do a thing about I think it's like something about like how the economy is down and so like that's going to be the theme of his coronation is like d how in touch with the ordinary people he is, which just oh my god, just don't please do please do I just I yes, right into the veins, so much veep energy to this whole Okay, we need to get He just seem like mister regular guy. She just seem like

regular Charles, not weird Charles. And they've been so worried about him, like from like the time the Queen turned like fifty. They were like, oh my god, she's gonna die one day and we're gonna be stuck with this guy. Like he's he's just like haunted by his own mediocrity. He's just so like the most thin skinned human who has ever existed. There's so many great stories about what h like just bizarre human specimen. This guy is. So I'm yes, please please, somebody be taking video, just even

I'll take iPhone footage. We'll we'll edit it together into something coherent, but please truly to his absolute core in his marriage, and it's like if you know, I don't know, I'm like the very very least and a evil like at evil Colonizer family can do is be embarrassing, be embarrassing in public? Yeah, like for all of us, yes, absolutely, but the royal family is in their flop era for sure. We are going to get to probably some of that. But first, Adam, we do like to ask our guests,

what is something from your search history? Well, I was like, I was looking up my astrological sign, and the reason I was like looking it up is because like I don't know much about it, Like, well, here's also the thing because like my birthday's on the twenty second, so I'm too at once, you know what I mean? Like, depending on the story, Cusp, here are you a pisces Aries? Cusp? No, uh, Scorpio Sagittarius, pisces Aries? Oh oh I thought your birthday.

I thought your birthday was coming up. I'm sorry. Oh no, it's okay, I mean in a way it is, but um, one month, twenty second, one month, November November okay, yeah, so yeah, okay, yeah. So it was like one of those things where it's just like it's not something I really paid attention to. And then my partner Anna, who does Left Andrew Radio with me, she was working on this show about astrology, and we'll just like, what what is the what are the things that are supposed to

apply to who we are? And then we like read them and there's like mmmmm, I think it's backwards, like oh, yeah, she got yours, you got hers? Yeah, yeah, we seem to well that all happened sometimes actually, when you live with someone long enough. I guess yeah, I didn't read far enough. I also looked up the old sick corn. I looked up the old sandwich shop in my college

town to make sure it was still open. I guess yeah, what, So, can you explain the sandwich store controversy to me somebody who's supposed to pay attention to the news for a living. Which sandwich store controversy are you're talking about the college? Isn't there a college sandwich store controversy that's happening? Oh wow, now I now have to find that out. Now that's

gonna be my list. Oh wait, what were you referring to when you said you, oh, do you know how it's like sometimes like you'd just be like it's like this weird thing where like you just go like there's so many, so many things closed during pandemic and so many like like things will just go out of business anyway, and you just go like I hear, is that shop that I got the sandwich out a couple of times still open? And it was just like, let me look, I have to know. I have to know instead of

like just moving on with life. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. I feel like college sandwich stores are probably among the most resilient because they had like a starving population marooned there, like even during the pandemic. I think I guess colleges didn't all stay open during during during the pandemic, but yeah, I don't know. They it's a pretty inelastic demand. I would say they're they're probably hanging in there. What was

your college sandwich place? Yes, it is. It was called the International Sandwich Shop, and it just Oh I loved titles like that. Yeah, it's like in the middle of an Illinois farm town and it's called the International Sandwich Shop. I guess because they had like meats from across the country. It's it's just it's a ridiculous title. I love a

grandiose title. Right place, there's this place called the hot Dog Hall of Fame, where I'm like, where the fuck do you get off calling it that, but it's so thrilling. You're like, yeah, I feel like I'm I'm a part of something bigger than myself when I'm just you know, eating a bunch of bullshit. I just looked up mine. It appears to still be in business, although it's impossible to know because the webs site has not been updated since it's before I went there. Is Wise Miller's Deli.

The chicken Madness. What chicken madness is the is a delicious sandwich. It's like chunks of grilled chicken cheese. Yeah. Yeah, it's not very appropriate. They're they're not doing a good job of, you know, acknowledging people's mental health struggles. But there's both chicken madness and burger madness, and they are delicious sandwiches. But the website leaves on rocks something to be desired. Although I think it's come back around to being like cool again. Yeah, it's got like a kitchen

wheel now. Yeah. The web design is actually like the color combo is salmon and then yeah, and then like a very strange combination of greens, and it's like low rise jeans. You just have to wait long enough for it to come back and I've been waiting and I'm ready for to put mine to sport mine again, my

low rise duents. I want I wonder if the chicken madness is still like there's I wonder if someone is keeping track of this, because I would drop everything to do it if if it's not being done, just a keeping track of like our fallen sandwiches over time, the chicken madness, there's a whole story there. You know, the seafood sensation from Subway. I know that there's still people

that are fighting for that to this day. The tuna sandwich from Dunkey Donuts, that's obviously something that's important to me. But there's just a lot of, you know, sandwiches that have been and I want like a defunct Land style YouTube channel for a channel for like sandwiches that don't exist anymore. Yeah, well, the chicken madness is not going away. So it's not gonna be on your thank God, thank you, thank God. It's not gonna be on your little show, Jamie.

Sorry to say, fine, Jack, what is something you think is overrated? Adam? Did you guys see Vanctor? Was it the New Yorker? The end of the English major thing? I saw it and then I said, I'm not cooking on that. Yeah, it's it's this like so it's like one of those like very you know, typical, Like it's got this scare headline the end of the English major, and it's like Arizona State University is seeing a decline in people studying English and getting their degrees in English.

Some colleges are saying like we don't have enough students to necessitate an English program, and it's like we focus so much on stam within the last like five ten years that people are not motivated to get their degree in English. And also there's like that that's typical like cell phone scare thing of like oh people have cell phones. They don't read books anymore. I mean this one professor's like,

I just got a self. I just got a smartphone, and I went from reading five novels a month to one novel a month because I'm reading all these websites. And it's like, like, okay, shut up there they like people don't want to study because of this boring attitude. I hate when someone does something boring and then they're like this is news. You're like, it's not. Shut up.

You got a phone it's not my problem, Oh my god, exactly, and also like lamenting like I couldn't imagine assigning Middle March to to today's English students, and it's like, well, maybe that's fine, Like maybe we do actually need a focus on STEM and we don't eat people like going into massive debt to get an English major, you know what I mean, Like if it's a specialty major or you can't get one at every college, maybe that's not

a problem. Well I didn't even think. I mean, I'm like I saw some conversation going on around that piece that I would just think when I learned about something on Twitter, I'm like, m probably safer to interact with this and never learn what it is. That's sort of my current Twitter policy. But I did see people say like, oh, well, there's also like it's such a common thing to like bully people who are like history or English majors that like, I would understand why people would be less willing to

do it. And also like you're saying, like less willing to Like if it was more accessible to get an English degree and you didn't need to go into six figure debt to do it, I'm sure that more people would want to. But if the price of college is going up, then it makes sense that like it would be more popular to get a degree that you could probably get a like almost certainly get a job in afterwards, which sucks because then it's like, yeah, I don't know.

I think, yeah, it's it's bad. Yeah it's not great. Yeah like that, people are like, I'm on my grind, I got a major and angel investor v venture capital firms. Where the fuck? I just hate the idea that they would blame it on phones. It's like, okay, well if phones are like, phones aren't gonna go anywhere, so a

lot of people are. I don't know. It's like even like the Rizon popularity and like audiobooks, it's like, yeah, you just need to find a way to consume the same thing that matches people's like consumption habits better right, chill out as think yes, chill out. Professor dork is a T shirt I have to say, coming to get can't it's a great T shirt. I was a philosophy major, so I don't know anything about useless majors. Yeah, I have my degree in art, so nice and screenwrit hot dogs?

Did you tell? Yeah? Yeah, that's actually that's a trade, though Philosophy not as not so much. Philosophy majors are all like, they're like, you could be a lawyer, or you could be a philosophy professor and teach other philosophy majors. The two genders. I consider you to be a philosopher, Jack O'Brien, Oh, that means so much to me. That's much better than lawyer. I consider you to be a lawyer, Jack,

a closeted lawyer. You know, I've had boyfriends that have told me that when I argue with them that I would They're like, you know, you would make a great litigator, but it's meant to be insulting of course. Yeah. Yeah, And all men are so bad at arguing with women that they are like, oh my god, yeah, what are you talking to? Their defense is, wow, you're really you're winning this argument. Wow, you should be a professional bitch. Maybe maybe you should be You're like, maybe I will, Yeah,

what's something you think is underrated? Him? I I don't know about you, guys, but I am so relieved that the Havana syndrome isn't real. Yes, it's one of these things where like we are definitely living in like science fiction times in the idea that like, you know, our intelligent agents or intelligence agents are getting like, you know, laser beamed in the head is frightening, and then to find out that it's just anxiety and crickets is a bit of a relief, But like, I'm not ready for

that level of I guess warfare. Yeah, And I think they weren't. Like that's the amazing thing, because they spent the whole, the entirety of the Cold War benefiting from like their paranoia and you know, just being super paranoid and being like that means that Russia has these super weapons and we need to be spending billions and trillions of dollars on these these weapons. That's what it was like driven by. And the fact that this time they're just like, nah, They're sorry, we were making it up

our bad. This is an embarrassing I do appreciate it, and I am glad. I was also very on the record that this wasn't real from pretty early on, So I'm glad. I gotta say, it's day two of us talking about Havana syndrome on the daily Zee guys, and I'm no closer to understanding what we're talking about. Oh no, I think that's brave of me to admit. Yesterday, I think I really muscled my way through the conversation and tried to say just enough words, and today I just

don't get it. It does sound like a John Clancy novel or something like that. So yeah, don't blame you for just checking out at the name Yana syndrome. It's like basically a couple spots. Do you want to know what it is or do you want to just kind of stay just muscle through. No, I want I want to know. I want to know. I like to learn from my friends. It's like a couple spies in Havana were like they heard a loud beaming like a loud screeching noise and then started suffering from like vertigo and

stuff like that. And then and they told other spies that, and those spies had similar things happened to them, and they and so it became this thing where they were like, Russia has a sound weapon that they are like attacking us with and it is like frying our brain matter and like that, you guys need to look into this.

And it seems to like there was a very good article from pro Publica early on where they were just like tracing how the reports came in, and it was just clear that it like the way these were spreading was through like social contact with people and then like hearing about it in like very uncertain circumstances and feeling

weird about it. And then there's that New York Times article that like showed that it, you know, could be this mess psychogenetic thing that they've done a really good job of studying and like figuring out how to treat it. But but then it like once came a news story. It also like tied in with Trump wanting to undo all of Obama's progress with Cuba and so he like pulled a bunch of spies out of Havana. Was like, you know, Cuba is either attacking us or making it

possible for people to attack us. So it's like this big international incident that was probably caused by yeah, like Adam said, anxiety and right, deep spiritual issues that CIA agents have with what they do for a living, Wow, is in their ears of their own regret. So somebody got a recording of this like noise and they were like, that's the laser beam noise. And then people were studying it and an entomologist was like, those are those are

Cuban crickets. That's just what crickets sound like that And they're like, no, that that actually was. That actually wasn't the one. We were sorry, we got the recording wrong. That actually wasn't the one. Wait. Wait, first of all, are you like a fucking lawyer, because like the way you're picking this apart is upset. Sorry, yeah, being a huge bitch. You guys, you're being a huge bitch right now. Syndrome stuff like that. I wish you could just say

that to the CIA. You can't, unfortunately. Yeah. So, anyways, it does seem like people are taking this last report because there's been like many reports that were like this was not a thing, there were no weapons. But it does seem like this last one, because it was multiple intelligence agencies kind of coming together and say it wasn't a thing, it seems like it's actually struck like kind of broken through. And now the ANA syndrome is officially seen by a lot of people now as like what

it was. So that is in a nutsch what it is. And I'm sorry that I didn't do a better job explaining that on yesterday's episode. But no, it was my job to understand better when I showed up, and then I got scared. But you know, here we are. I think we're doing good. Yeah, we're all doing our best here. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about reflecting the Sun's energy away from the Earth. Oh my god, and we're back. And have you guys

seen snow Piercer. Yeah, yeah, so like in that movie that just like in the prologue, like the news clip montage prologue, they're like, somebody put it to combat climate change. Somebody put a chemical into the atmosphere to like reflect the Sun's rays away from the Earth, and they like overdid it, and now the planet is ice planet and the only people who are alive are on this train. And that definitely scared me off of this idea. I'm like, no, But now the UN is kind of floating it out

there again. And there's there's a really good book, the Ministry for the Future, that is like somebody who really understands climate change in international geopolitical systems writing about how the future of climate change could most likely play out. And they also like bring this up quite a bit. I think the author's name is Kim Stanley Roberts. Yeah, the author's name is Kim Stanley Robinson. And there. Yeah,

it's a it's a good book. It's worth reading. And one of the like things that happens in the book is there's like a massive heatwave in India that kills like millions of people and motivates the country to like go rogue and do their own like high atmosphere gas

release that actually works to like cool the climate. But that is now like a thing that people are writing about in news article news article in news articles, because like that where nobody is doing the things that we would need to do to stop polluting the planet enough

to have catastrophic climate change. And so the solution is to put something in the atmosphere that would act similar to like what a volcanic eruption does, which is, like you know, the global temperature after a really significant volcanic eruption, the global temperature will drop by like a degree or two because of all the ash and the atmosphere and like the sun not reaching us as as much as

it does without that stuff. So so bleak that like that, we're we're at this point where it's like it's so clear that there's not going to be any large scale action too. Yeah. Uh that it's like people are trying to think two steps ahead of like, well, there's no chance there's ever going to be any regulations that are significant enough to save the planet, So what if Like it's just I understand the logic behind it, but it's just like, oh Jesus Christ, we're just never going to

get good climate change with legislation. Cool, just like fiddling with the thermostat is essentially what we've come up with, right, Yeah, you're like blowing the fucking Nintendo cartridge and hoping for

the best and just put across the entire globe. Yeah, and that's what it's going to be really tricky to like get everybody on board with this, and like especially you know where like right now, like the super wealthy are going to be the least affected by climate change and like probably in the near future, and so they're all going to the Denver Airport and they're gonna you know, weigh it out. Yeah, what's it? What's the Denver Airport conspiracy theories that like there's a bunch of there's a

tunnel city underneath it. Yeah. Yeah, Now, yeah, there's a kid. There's a bunch of there's a bunch of tunnels. There's some girl Scouts in the nineties that claim that they saw the rich people tunnels and they're like, oh, but no one ever brought up the tunnels. Why did the girl Scouts get the tour of the rich people tunnels?

I couldn't tell you. All I know is there's Asian girl Scouts that have been to the tunnel, and yeah, they're they're gonna go down there, They're gonna they're gonna live well while the rest of us burned to a crisp I think is the plan. Yeah, or you know, freeze you, depending on where things go. But that's why the Denver Airport is allegedly scary. I believe it. There's like a really freaky mosaic there two of like people in gas masks and stuff like out of nowhere, Like

a lot of a lot of Holocaust imagery. Yeah, there's gargoyles at baggage claim. There's that big scary horse, Yeah that with the glowing red eyes whose like leg fell off and killed the sculptor that was creating it. There's a lot of stuff going on with the Denver Airport. I love getting stuck there. It makes me feel like I'm in b movie. It's exciting, it is, it's got a it's got a super villain layer of feel. Anyway, Yeah, big big minions, Big grew energy to the Denver Airport

crew energy minions work there. That's how you know shit's going down. Um, but okay, so they're gonna so the

back to this study we're talking about. Yeah, so, I mean it's just the the un EP, which is the uns like Environmental something or other wrote that like, with the world not responding the climate change urgently enough, a speculative group of technologies to reflect sunlight back away from the Earth has been getting more attention recently, and they're like, it doesn't it isn't ready for prime time yet, but this view may change if climate action remains insufficient, the

report says, signaling that it's time for rigorous study of both the technologies and the potential international governance, which seems like the tricky part. Do they have the chemical like, do they know what it would be it's just a matter of or is it just like we'd have to put in a lot of research to find the chemical that would you know, mimic volcanic ash. I think they have some theories, but it's also like one of those

things that you do. It's not really a thing that you want to like go with the guess and check like method on changing the global temperature. It's the one and done. Yeah, yeah, see how it goes there. I guess my my question here, and this is has to do with the fact that I don't know how the

U works really. But if like as like, if this is a suggestion being brought by their kind of environmental team, what why would the world agree, Like why would all of the nations in the UN be able to agree on this proposition if they already cannot agree on other

climate change action? Like right, that's yeah, I think the climate change action requires them to make sacrifices and do things that aren't that are like not profitable, whereas like our entire you know, programming, all our coding as a civilization has like built itself up to the point that it's like that is impossible to do something that is not not like operating in the most efficient way for shareholder value, it seems like right, and so they're just

like does not compute, Like there's just like spark there the wiring behind their eyes or is like sparking every time that you try and get them to do some sort of climate change action or you know, like one of the big thought systems is like what about not gearing everything towards growth, and they're like what like just blinking thirty times, like because it's not sustainable and we'll blow up. Um. So so this would be like an opportunity to circumvent like or try to have it both ways. Yeah,

creating the technology. Yeah, so it's like probably just more more jobs created. We're going to create some jobs sending people into the stratosphere to spray volcanic ash or yeah, I mean I don't think it's like I don't think

they're necessarily trying to exactly mimic volcanic ash. I think just volcanic eruptions are the thing has like given them this idea essentially, But it does seem like something we want to be really careful with and also something that's going to be incredibly hard to get everybody to agree on.

And yeah, I'm sure there's a way that the wealthy people who actually control like what decisions get made are going to fuck this up for the rest of us, right, unless there's like some valuable contract to be gotten from from having done it. Like I think part of them like they've bought all that all that property in New Zealand, like they're they I'm sure there's like at least a good portion of the population who like meet up in Davos every year who are just like, we kind of

want this. It seems like it would be fun and we would get to like repopulate the earth because we're they floating mansions. Yeah like that. So they're like, why I don't. I don't want to have wasted that money, So I could I could see even if this does turn out to be a good idea, I could see this being sort of hitting some headwinds. Yea, As they say, it sounds too much like the plot of a Michael

Bay movie for someone to not completely fuck it up. Yeah, yeah, the Michael's Bay and Creighton come together to write a science fiction film that is our future. It turns out, Yeah, well, as long as there's a weird little Graham Cracker inspired

sex scene. I guess it's like the the Denver Airport thing, Like, really, I do believe that even if it's not at the Denver airport like they we've already like uncovered historical documents that these exist, Like there's a West Virginia resort that secretly had like a massive underground habitat for the president and like the leader of the United States in the event of a nuclear armageddon that was like there throughout the Cold War in case they needed it. And now

you can like go and take tours of it. But because it was like far enough into history, we just started like, oh, that's quaint. But there's there's no way that like Bezos doesn't have at least like five of these already like under construction. But like, yeah, I true, Like I'm not a very conspirat. I'm not a conspiratory I mean whatever, Ze Gang, We've we've been together for

a long time. I'm not a conspiratorially minded person. But this one, I fully like, if you've got evidence that it's not true, I'd love to see it, because why would you build an airport like that. It's the worst airport in the world. It's so weird, it's so far away from Denver, it's so like just sprawling and strange. They're just counting on that. But then also I'm like, maybe it's not true. Every going to Denver makes lightheaded

and gives me a nosebleed. Maybe my brain cells are not operating as they were intended while I'm at this airport. But I do I believe in the theory. Look up the Girl Scouts. That sounds also like a Michael Bay movie, The Girl Scouts. No, you gotta find the Girl Scouts. Cut to Christina Hendrix, a Girl Scout ner Ford. He's being like, I saw it. I saw it. Yeah, like the like in a post apocalyptic setting, like with people

like wandering the earth. They just like put a bunch of like scary art up around to be like, don't come here, this isn't. This isn't where you wanna be wandering band of cannibals. That's my loose theory. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen it. Might have been TikTok's, but I don't remember.

At this point, like employees of the Denver Airport seem to be conditioned to kind of like lightly engaged with this if it's brought up to them, where they're like, oh, I don't know, yeah, if you have any information on this that's not just like the standard Wikipedia article, but like, yeah, hit us up if if you work there, if you know somebody works there, let us know. Yeah. I don't don't bother me with anything before results page like seventeen because I see it. All right, let's take you a

quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk Elon Musk, and we're back. And Elon Musk's Neuralalink turn. He's repeatedly been like, this is coming, folks, just any day now, since I think twenty sixteen. That's so unlike him, I know, right, so on at least four occasions since twenty nineteen, Elon Musk has predicted that his medical device company, Neuralink would soon start human trials of a revolutionary brain implant to

treat intractable conditions such as paralysis, blindness. And it seems like they just hit a major block in their progress because they did finally submit it to the FDA to be like all right, like what what do you think guys, Like we're good here, right, every everything, this is just a formality. We're we're good. We're we're about to start jamming these things into people's brains. I like the idea

that like the in my mind, the um. The way to test it is to like put the chip in someone's brain and then show them like an Elon musk joke tweet and if they laugh, it's working, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you see an Elon tweet and you come at least a gallon and then that's how you know it's working. Yes, but the agency, the US Food and Drug Administration, rejected the application. It's shocking. This is according to seven current

and former Neuralink employees. They say, it's not it's not happening. A big sticking point is the whole jamming a lithium battery into your brain thing that seems to trouble them. Some of the listed concerns are that wires could migrate to other areas of the brain and worries about how the device can be removed without damaging brain tissue. So okay, so little things. It's like, it's very much the Yeah, exactly,

thank you. What why would I ever want to take this amazing thing out that just get upgrades, just get software updates, like your Tesla. Yeah yeah, Well if you have neuralink, will you also being convinced to just run off the side of a Cliff, like, I can walk now, but I can't recognize semitrucks from a Yeah, well there was a sun glare situation and I did run into the middle of the four oh five unfortunately. But yeah, the whole culture there is that like they're like, Okay,

this is just a little bump of the road. We're just going to quickly resolve the issues that they brought up. But the issues are all like the very first things that come to mind when you hear about this prospect. It's like, yeah, you're sticking something into a human's brain like that. That's that's a mess, Like how are they going to overcome that? And it seems like they just hadn't hadn't considered that problem carefully enough. And so I heard about it. Didn't it kill? Didn't it kill? Like

fifteen out of twenty three monkeys? Yes that they tested it on. Yes, really not a good average. Even if it's an ape killing chip, it's also not a good average. Right, They're going through monkeys like their printer cartridges, like just treating them as a inexhaustible resource. And the culture there is that regulators are obstacles to innovation and you have to like trick them, So you're you're not like even this is not being viewed as like they make some

good points. It's being viewed as, how do we like trick them into giving us, like the the ability to do the thing that is going to be most profitable, which is how all of Elon Musk's businesses have like gotten ship through. I mean it's like we were hearing similar stuff with Tesla of like, well, yeah, we're not going to fix the problem, We're just going to like wait until they're willing to be steamrolled into releasing the products. Yeah.

He's also the company has also gotten shipped from the Department of Transportation for illegally transporting dangerous pathogens on chips removed from monkey brains without proper containment measures. So it just seems like he just like he again like I think very wealthy people want to cause the apocalypse, Like I think they there's like they've sunk a lot of

investment into the a post apocalyptic world. Like, yeah, Elon Muski, it does probably have a you know, underground bunker on in every like major city in the United States, and he is like trying to repopulate the globe already with you know, all the babies he's having people who look like shit. I don't know what this kids look like. I just know he looks like shit. Yeah, he really does.

I know. I said the thing about English major's going away not being a big deal, But there was this thing I heard a while back where like somebody was characterizing the tech leaders, the tech people that we think of as like, oh, geniuses in their field, like Musk and Bezos and Zuckerberg, as like they're big fans of science fiction. But it seems like it seems like they experienced science fiction stories like EITHERIR TV movies and go like, oh that thing that ruined everything, Let me make one

of those, right right. They're like their imagination is fired by the concept, like somebody gives them the log line of the science fiction thing and then they never, like bother reading through to see the consequences. They're just like exactly, yeah, It's it's just like sort of that that sort of like I still think that like English going ways a major is a different thing than like, I don't know,

teaching media literacy and reading comprehension and like that. You know, sometimes these stories are meant to warn you against doing something right yeah, I mean yeah, and like I mean, even though you're expanding on like that, just the humanity is in general where it's like, yeah, it's not profitable to get a history degree, but someone's got to get a fucking history degree, like you know, or we are really and truly fucked, and it's like, well, it's more

the issue of I don't know, and and then I feel like there is a lot of like gendered aspects to like they're not being like to STEM being so overwhelmingly male that there was like a push for women to get STEM degrees, which makes a lot of sense, but it's like that doesn't need to be at the behest of you need people in the damn humanities and so that someone can write a banger about Elon Musk.

I do feel like with this Nurling thing, I worry that it's just going to be Tesla all over again, where it's just like we're going to be talking about these kinds of stories of like it killed every like it failed every possible test, and then fast forward six months and they're like, but it's coming out for you know, reasons, because he has more money, like that he probably spends more money on like travel and food than the FDA budget,

Like personally he probably does. Like the FDAs budget is like not that significant, Like the yeah, so I mean like that's the thing is that like even with the English the history majors, it's like, well, it's about where you choose to invest money right as a as a society, and like we've left it up two billionaires to tell

us where to invest money. We haven't always done that, but like that is the world we live in now, So like, yeah, it's become less probitable to be a history or English major because the world is run by fucking Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and like that sort of that idea that life like does not compute for them. So like yeah, we've just let them build a civilization in their own image and it's not it's not good. I feel like it's gonna be bad. Like especially with history.

It's like we've got to find a way to make young people studying history and like studying it in a way that is like there is an understanding of who is writing history to just have that invested in, because it's like if no one understands history, then whatever, it's like stuffy here all the time. Then it's just like that's intentional. The Elon Musks and Jeff bezos Is of the world don't want you to understand history because they're like the worst part of it. Yeah, and there's like

precedent for them. So yeah, I don't know, I don't know. It should be fun, it'll be fun. Do you see neuralink being like a status symbol like a tesla is, because I'm wondering how that would play out, because it's going to be a thing in your head, right. I could definitely see a future where having, yeah, having these like tech implants is a status symbol and like that. There are probably ways to do this that aren't jamming

an ion battery into a human brain. That will be like wearable tech, you know, tech implants that are just like under the skin as opposed to like in your brain. Have you heard about those guys that put like a magnet in their finger. Yeah, so there's like versions of that, Like the people have these implants that allow them to, you know, do do various things. But I think the coolest one like, yeah, so I'm magneting your finger. What are they doing with that? Again? I forget what are

they doing with that. It's I think it's like these these folks who like, you know, they'll put like a chip in their like wrist so that they can get into some you know locked door in their you know, research laboratory. But then there are also guys who are like putting magnets into their fingertips so that they have basically magnetic fingertips and so that they can basically like

like cosplay as as cyborgs. Yeah, there's also like so there's the cochlear implant that like if you've seen like the sound of metal or like cochlear implant is like an implant that can help people who've lost their hearing like begin to hear, or who were born without hearing, like be able to hear by like actually interacting with like the messages that are being sent to the brain. And then there are also like people who are doing research in two ways you could like create new senses.

So like that, there are people who have created a thing it's like a vibrating like a vibrating implant that I think goes on your tongue. Sometimes they've tried it on your back, but it's like anywhere where you have a lot of nerve receptors, and it like is sending you information that your brain eventually, over time begins to

be able to like decode automatically. And so they've done it with like just always knowing what direction north is, Like there was a belt that they tried out where it's like always vibrating slightly to the north, and so eventually you just get this innate ability to know what north is. But there are other things like they've tried with like always knowing what's happening with the stock indegs and stuff like that. Just having a NonStop feed of

information about like things you want. So it's like adding an additional sense on into your body that your brain is like an amazing machine and will like learn to decode that and just have like a yeah, sixth or seventh sense, you know. But I mean that just sounds like I can I know, I'm probably stating the obvious. I intentionally have not been keeping up with their link because it scares me, which is probably bad. But like, how can you ensure that that is going to be

treated ethically? Like I I the FDA is saying this is bad for your physical like the goop in your head. I'm glad they're doing that, that's great, But if they can make it safe for the goop in your head, like what kind of I mean, there would have to be restrictions put in place of like what can you make this thing do versus what you can't? And like how much economy and control do you have? But so you don't just become a fucking X monkey not you know,

I don't know. Yeah, And I feel like we are not in the best civilization to like handle that sort of innovation, I guess would be my point because and like the richer you are, the more this way you have, not like these things that are in place, like this is an example of one of the things that's in place to moderate these sorts of innovations that like working, but with enough money and enough force over time, like I feel like those things won't be able to stand up.

So it's a little it's a little scary, also scary. King Charles's Coronation playlist wish of a transition Jack, Yes, thank you, thank you. I've been working on my transitions. There's not a lot here. I just really like to luxuriate in imagining King Charles being like, can we get a Dell. Can we get edge and just being told no and goggling popular artists, popular British artist. He's like Ed Sheeran, what do we think Spice Girls, Robbie Williams

and Johnald turned him down. I am disappointed to say, good for them. Yeah, I mean it seems pretty clear most people don't want to associate themselves with colonialism right now. But which wise why Spice Girls? Yeah? Bad pr Yes, but they did get and I'm really disappointed in this and some of the people in this list. They did get Lionel Ritchie, Andrew Lloyd Webber. I'm the list. The list, I am happy to say, like the list of people they were like, they do have a star studded event

with Gary Barlow, Mark Owens and Howard Donald. Donald isn't the person to do just an assortment of white guy names, Mark Owen, Howard Donald. Yes, those are all white guys. Those are all the first names. A series of first names. Oh, that's so fun. I know a lot of people are going to be like, actually, Mark Owen is a great artist and that I was really disappointed that Howard Donald. I was disappointed to see that he aligned with colonialism.

You're like, who the fuck is Howard Donald? Also, Kylie Minogue is in non. I think Kylie Minogue needs to revisit this decision. I really hope that. Yeah, her fans pummel the shit out of her on that one. Get out of there. I guess I don't know anything about Kylie Minogue's politics, and I think I'm proud of that. But now, but now I have concerned should be because you've worked hard not to know anything about Kylie Minoaku's politics,

people won't stop talking about it. Yeah, but like if he like the way the way we saw him react to the pen getting Pennanc getting on his fingers and him saying like every stinking time with this thing, it was like like I can only imagine like him getting the news of Ed Sheeran and adele veiling on being like, oh sorry, we got we got a thing at that time.

So God, just somebody give me some video like there's gotta be like that that whole country is under like CCTV observation at all times, Like get me an angle on the on windsor Square or windsor Palace, because I just love watching this guy be disappointed by his own mediocrity. If one of these artists was really galaxy braining it, I would hope that one of them would sample the phone call of them turning down the coronation yeah on

a future album. Yeah, that would absolutely rock. Absolutely like the phone message, like you know that that's being used to great effect. And like there's a great Chief Keith song from last year that's again like just a long fune message from I think it might be a mom or grandma just being like very complimentary, but the song just fucking rules. Like so like people are doing great things with fun messages. Just please record this message and

and and bring it to us just like us. Yeah, like a skit on the next adele help, I'm just being like, I'm sorry, I'm not available. I'm sorry, and yeah, fotball. Great story. I've heard about Peter Cook, who the comedian, the British comedian, and he was I think most famous for being in that the uh the Priest and Princess bribes you know, okay manage. Yeah, yeah, very funny guy.

He's he's like a staple of British comedy and King Charles one time invited him to some like uh royal event and was like, can you make this date in Peter Cook is like, yeah, let me check my calendar real quick, and then like flips through and flips through and flips through and goes, oh, I'm sorry, I can't. I'm watching television that night. So he's just like constantly getting owned. Yea, that's been his life from yeah. So and then he takes it out on on the pens.

All right, well, Adam, truly a pleasure having you on the daily Zeitgeist? Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. I'm still using Twitter, so it's still there at Adam Bozart. I'm also on Instagram, although I don't post there as much, but it's still there. But definitely go to Left Handed Radio dot com and check out the sketch show I do, and definitely subscribe to w lhar Fake Public Radio wherever you find an download podcast. Yeah yeah, I think if you like this show,

you'll like they'll be only Charlant. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying. I I was looking through my tweet likes and there is one that I that I have been like thinking about a lot. It's like stuck in my imagination. It's from at kith or Jensen and it's a fun thought exercise is to transplant the Texas Chainsaw massacre to another state and imagine what it would be like Vermont, Delaware, Hawaii. There you go, Jamie. Truly a pleasure having you co hosting. Where can people

find you? Follow you, read you all the good stuff? Oh you know a Twitter dot com Still at Jamie Loft's help Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar announced today or I guess technically yesterday that I'm going to be going on tour with You're wrong about for a lot of the spring. Going to like fifteen for cities is going to be fun. So there's some places are sold up, but you should get tickets where there's still not place

is sold out. I'm really excited. And then yeah, order Raw Dog, my book about hot dogs, and I wanted to share I kind of I got a two hander and both of them they're reading because I can do that. The first one I wanted to follow up on yesterday's Albert Okura. So yesterday and I showed a book that I have called The Chicken Man with the Fifty Year Plan. Albert Okura, he's the founder of the Wan Toyo string

of rotis three chicken restaurants. And then I learned at the end of the day at our episode yesterday that he just died like a month ago. So I still haven't read the book will Report. There's there's more on the Okura Report. But I did read his full New York He had a lengthy New York Times obituary. He's an important man, and I learned some interesting things about him, including that first of all, he was the chicken man

with a fifty year plan. He started flipping burgers and expressing interest in making chicken restaurants in nineteen seventy one. So that's what I call a fifty year plan. Sounds like hens. Yeah, he had the chicken madness within him. He was, but yeah, he was born. His grandparents had immigrated from Japan to the US in the nineteen tens. His parents had been held in detention camps during World

War Two. They had like a really I mean, his family history is really troubling and complicated, and he was I believe, a first generation American and started by flipping burgers at Burger King and then like bought up all of this real estate on route sixty six, including the original McDonald's site, which is why he and then opened like an unofficial McDonald's museum. I've been. It's where I bought the Chicken Man with the fifty year and it is a big room full of happy Meal toys. It's

like really but they don't charge for entry. And he just had like this really vested interest in his chicken franchise One Poyo, but also in like preserving like mid century twentieth century American history on sixty six. And there's a lot of people who are like preservationists with Root sixty six that are like, this is actually a huge loss to our community. Is like one of the only business people that was really invested in preserving that period

of history. Anyways, Um, yeah, rip to my friend Albert o'cura. He claims too. There's no way to verify this, but I think that that's sort of what the whole book is, basically unverified claims that he's making. He claims to have cooked over two million chickens in his career, and you can feel good or bad about that, but he did say it, and rip Albert o'cura. So I guess for the second day in a row. I'm recommending The Chicken

Man with the fifth year. Yeah, yeah, amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien at keyon on Twitter hoodboge is Tired of poverty tweeted why would you name your kid? Greg? And it's just a it's a question that I think we all need to ask once you get gregnant? Yeah, exactly, Greg. That was appropriate

for a Jamie episode. Yeah. Also, I think I saw a tweet by somebody being like, when you get pregnant from someone named Greg, you are gregnant with no citation, and it kind of went off and I was like, that's you live long enough. And people are ripping off the pet Pignet video. Serious, be serious people that You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at d daily Zegeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily zeygeist dot com where post

our episodes. On our foot notes, we're link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer justin what is a song that you think people might enjoy? This is a track called Coming Through by s Fidelity, who I believe is a Berlin based artist. It sounds like a blend of chip tune music in

European hip hop. I can see this song being on the soundtrack to jet Set Radio, which is like a rollerblading graffiti game that I used to play on the second Dreamcast. So this track is called coming Through by S Fidelity and you can find a song on the footnotes Rollerblading Graffiti. What a what a combo? Yeah? What a good Yeah, that's a powerful word combo. What a time to be alive? But whenever that came out. The

Daily zeit Geist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcast from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all day. Bye bye, thank M M M