Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty eight, episode one of Daly's I Guys Day production of iHeartRadio. This Well, this is a podcast where we take a deep to avenue America's air consciousness. And it is Tuesday, May thirtieth, twenty twenty three. I would normally know, but some sometimes those days are just so far off. I can barely I know, I can't. Yeah, we're up. We're recording this here on Friday. This is when it's not tomorrow.
When it's not tomorrow, you're on your own. Wait, what is it the twenty seventh? Yeah, oh right, because the twenty six it was just Memorial Day, the twenty seventh, National Grape Day, National Grape Popsicle Day, National Cellophane Tape. That's tomorrow, the two days ago for the Oh shit, what is it? What's the day we're looking for? May thirtieth? Oh my god, you're gonna need a May thirtieth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, coming right up. Man.
It's a World's Multiple Sclerosis Day, National Creativity Day, National Mid JULYIP Day, National Hole in my Bucket Day, National Water a Flower Day.
I don't know a Hole in my Bucket Day? Is I don't know. I don't want to know, Miles. Yeas they missed National Mint Jewelup Day is actually what every day the Kentucky Derby is on and this is this is not the time to be celebrated mint julips after people have just gotten way too many of them in their system. Yeah. Oh and it's for the thing there's a hole in my bucket. That's that's it's for that for that kids song. Yeah, are you becoming acquainted with the American song book? No? You know what.
I make up a lot of songs. I realized that I sing to my kid. Yeah, I'm like, you know me, I'm like an improvised so like I just get I get fixated on one word and then I turned that into a whole song.
But yeah, I should probably help, you know, socialize it. Yeah, my kids asked me to improvise, and like, I just have the dumbness that like we were reading a Superman book and they were when they want me to like kind of add jokes, They're like, do it silly, And it was just all fart jokes beginning to end. Just super That's how Superman flies is by farting and fantastic. It was not great. It's not my best material, but it killed. Yeah. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien aka.
All the rich old pricks and their big dumb ships. You better run, better run, out run my whales. All the rich old bricks and their dumb sailing ships better run, better run faster than my orcas. That is courtesy of Lacaroni, courtesy of the orcas who are sinking sailing vessels, sailing yachts, yeah, off the coast of Portugal, and also telling us in retrospect what Free Willie should have been about. We now know.
I'm thrilled to be joined by my co host, mister Miles Grin Miles Great, this is how I sink your boat.
You people think that you can flow blame you manadacity baby. This is how your yacht will die when the specials into the sad blame you manadacity baby.
Well, okay, shout out to a one nation to the tune of sale by Hugo Bosque again another oh yeah, that was coming through with the bounty Hunter Star Wars bounty Hunter reference, there's a there's a second verse where Gladys is referenced. But I didn't have the lung capacity to get there. But I will say shout out to the Gladys reference, shout out White Gladys, the leader of the whale Revolution. It's also tough to sing these songs. When we have a first time guest, just be like, yeah,
you got you gotta wait for a second verse. We're gonna keep going here. No, no, we're a different breed, a revolution she will lead. You know, we were gonna be doing morning zoo song peries on the Baby Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by very funny comedian, professional tickler who's latest special myself just dropped everywhere find comedy albums are bought and sold. It's the brilliant, the hilarious Emma or.
I did not know we were supposed to come with a an Orca related song. I would have prepared something.
Every day in the past three thousand days. You've just been coming, even before the work has starts, singing sinking the boats.
Yeah, but where you at? Where are you at on this God's green Earth? For God's green.
I am in Boise, Idaho.
Boys. Yeah, we talked about the pronunciation before we started. I was like, Miles, you bet I'm an ignorant asshole, I said, boys, and you're like, oh, fucking embarrass me further. I got to sing a an eight wall nation be kay. Yeah, but Emma, you were cool about it. You're like it it doesn't bother you. But that is the thing that I've heard.
It is if you're in bois there are people who get very salty if you call it Boisey. I don't mind. I've always pronounced it both ways. I've been here a long time and since I was ten, so I've always had it both ways.
Okay, life, I'm gonna use that like if I go and I fuck up and someone gets men like.
Actually am Arnold said I could, Yeah, yeah, please back up. How's the weather in Boisey?
Boise rainy and nice. It's supposed to be stormy all Memorial Weekend, which actually I'm really feeling and because last year it was like one hundred and five in the early June. It got very hot here very fast. Last year. Yeah, I'm I'm loving it. This is exactly what I want. Yeah, it's like MOPy, rainy weather.
It looks like California is having a similar Memorial Day weekend too, mostly gray clouds I'm seeing in the outlook. Yeah, pretty standard. Actually for about this, it's already happened. It's already How was your Memorial Day weekend? Everyone all right, and we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Yeah, first, a little housekeeping up top. For the first time in the history of the show, we are trying a new publication schedule out
for the summer. We're going to scale back to a mere eight episodes a week. We're going to try some new episode formats out because we want to seems fun. So there'll be one episode on Friday, one episode on Monday, and we'll be trying different formats out. We'll also be trying to hear from you. We're asking you to tell
us about your job. Hit us up with like the something people misunderstand about your job, something somebody who works in insurance hit us up until we're going to Yeah, we're going to talk to them because that they kind of confirmed what I always assumed about the insurance industry. So yeah, hit us up at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter in the discord, let us know. Former Navy intelligence hitting us up. I'm like, yeah, come on, please bring bring that to us. No no, no, no, all right, and
some things we're talking about today. We got the dystopia block and then we got the like little glimmers of hopefulness block. So the dystopia block will include such stories as Neuralink maybe getting FDA approval I mean Elon Musker that you know, the companies claiming it did we We don't know because they've claimed such ship before. His companies have claimed that they got approval when they didn't in
the past. Fuck that guy. We'll talk about Texas's newest solution to school shootings, which is sending home Winnie the Pooh books with children. They tell them to run, hide,
fight in adorable little ways. We will check in with Arizona's unhinged COVID hearings, where they're like, you know, trying to make make some heads roll the it's how Fauci came in and messed the whole dang thing up, But it's being run by the people who are the reason that Arizona had like one of the highest death rates of any with the highest in America and was like up there with countries that you know, were the hardest hit by COVID and then we'll talk about like a
Republican in the Hope block, We'll talk talk about France making me realize that there is a something called a right to repair that I had just taken for granted as like not existing because I've grown up in America and I'm just like, yeah, okay, I know whatever you want me to do. A corporation okay, is broken? Okay, Yeah, you gotta have to get a new one. I can't. It's a lot of money. Hey, he's got a new
You two album on it. Before we get to any of that ship Miles, we do want to ask you, Emma, what is something from your search history?
The top thing was skeleton popping out out clip.
Uh, I'm glad it wasn't like a web MD. You were like, yeah, popping.
Born hub search. That's the only the only thing I'm interested in, really, skeletons popping out. No, my son had to do like an end of the year finals thing. He had to make a video about a book he had read and he needed some help making that, and so I, not not to brag, starred in it. I did play roles in the video in the video, and thank you and his stepdad helped him edit it and
get it all together. But we needed instead of showing a dead body for this scene, we showed a skeleton popping out, So okay, we didn't have popping around.
I'm trying to picture is it? Is it the like cartoon image of like someone dying and then their skeleton pops out.
Of No, like like jump scare, like Indiana Jones style, Like you know, like the main character in the book finds a skeleton, he finds a dead body essentially, and then solves a mystery around the dead body.
So yeah, wait, so by googling that you were looking for like a clip of a skeleton popping out.
Yeah, including the video into it, we show We show him as the main character find opening the door and then screaming, and then we showed the skeleton popping out. It's wow, it was pretty high quality. It was pretty good.
Yeah. How old is your son?
He is fifteen, he's my youngest.
Got it?
And because I remember, like when I was in high school again the early two thousands, like the video project was like not very common, but I feel like it is it becoming more and more common because you can do everything on an iPhone basically.
Now I think so. Yeah, Like they had a couple options. I think you could have done you know, the old standbys, A die a poster, right, for sure. He wanted to do the video though.
Damn video sounds hard, but I guess when you have a star in the household, oh.
Thank you so much. Yeah, maybe just well and his my husband is a video producer, he's an editor, and I going to talk for so anytime there's any kind of project like that. My kids are like, would you help me with this? And also would you be way too into it and make it way too good for a high school presentation?
Would you probably direct a short film for me? That's what it was.
I saw him, I saw him doing the title screen and stuff, and I was like, again, I just want to remind you that this is for a ninth grade final, not an Emmy nomination. And he didn't matter. We've been together long, and iough, I don't try to tap the brakes as much anymore. I just am like, he's going to do this, He's going to spend seven hours making sure this is the most beautiful. He colorized it, do you know what I mean?
Like I got to put it through Da Vinci. If this isn't color corrected. I look like an asshole.
And yeah, fuck it, I'm going to use flame and some three D visual effects to make some.
Cool title stunning. It's stunning. Feature is going to be very impressed.
So and also a note for books like an improvement on the book books suck it jump scares. I've always said that, yeah, you know, here you go, here's something that my project has that this piece of shit never couldn't do. Yeah, I don't know. I always have a chip on my shoulder whenever I'm doing a book report. I guess this is what I think. So book sucked? What was believe that?
Oh my gosh, I can't remember the name. But actually I was very impressed. You know, we live in Idaho and we've had politically this year, a ton of stuff happened with libraries. They tried to shut down a big chunk of our libraries. They are a ton of book banning stuff. And I was really impressed. It was a book about a young adult book about the Tulsa massacre and sort of these a child in the past. And I'm sorry I can't remember the name, but I also I didn't read it. He just I just helped with
this project. But it was really really cool. It was he was telling me about it. He was really excited about it, and it's exactly the kind of book that's getting pulled from our school system right now. So I thought it was really cool that his teacher picked that book out. It was it was really interesting, Like the way he was describing it. I was like, this is
so cool. I didn't hear about the Tulsa massacre and tel Watchmen, you know, because I was like, oh shit, what you know, and like, I think a lot of people and then yeah, it was really really cool. He's already learned about that and he was telling me the history of the Tulsa massacre, and I thought that was pretty cool of his teacher to choose that book.
Yeah, sure, especial especially given the stakes.
Yeah.
I was talking to my seven year old about World War Two yesterday because they were like, what's Memorial Day and like what are the wars that America has fought in? And then he was like, oh, yeah, and America won in World War Two because they fought on the side
with the biggest country and the most people, Russia. And I was like that was not something I like that that is correct, but that was something that like I had to like write into an article at Cracked about like here's some dumb shit that you believe about World War two that you know like that. So really, yeah, it does feel like they're doing a little bit better of a job. Yeah, who actually defeated the Nazis the Russia.
I looked at it up just because I felt bad. It's Dreamland Burning by Jennifer Laysam, and he really enjoyed it.
Very cool. What is something you think is overrated?
This is I don't know, maybe kind of a basic one, but it's it's kind of top of my head football. I just think football is really overrated. And that's partly because so my oldest sorry, my middle kid, was a senior this year. He was always really into music, and then this year he decided to start playing a bunch of sports randomly. He became like mister sports guy and he did football, wrestling, and rugby. And football was so boring, Like you'd be there for like five hours. They play
like once every eighteen minutes. They played for thirty seconds. It's so boring. I hated every second. I've never like football, And I was telling a friend of mine. A friend of mine, a guy I dated who was a professional footballlayer. I was telling him, or used to be. I was telling him about it, and he was like, well, football is just like chess, you know, you got to think about it like that, and like, also super boring to watch, like chess, that's not a.
Ring really exciting chess.
I was like, no, I don't want to watch. I'd rather watch chess. I love chess. But then my kid played rugby and actually they took state. It was a big deal. They were like, somebody should make a movie about it. When the writer strike is over, hit me up, you should make a movie. They were the underdogs. They had not enough people on their team. Every player had to play the entire time basically, which rugby is like soccer. You are running, running, running, And they ended up taking
State and it was really cool. But rugby is so fun to watch. And I don't understand why football is like our national pastime when it's horribly boring. Everybody gets head injuries.
I hate it.
Rugby is so fun. Also, oh my gosh, this is since you're your dad's you're gonna love this too. After
the match, they get into a big huddle. Both teams shake hands, they get into a big huddle, and then they stand up and they take turns saying something from the other team that they admired, and so they yeah, And I mean after every match, I literally was like sobbing because it was so sweet, like they were just they would get up and be like, yo, number twenty two, I thought that tuckle you did on me, it was like really tight, so great job. And then number twenty
two gets up and he says something. So it's just like the whole thing is about like camaraderie and like when the kids get tackled, they're like hugging each other afterward and laughing and like, whereas football was very like toxic masculinity. And also the parents Football parents maniac screaming horrible things. Like I would go to those games and be like these are children, just so we're clear still children, But rugby parents, it is all very cool, very fun,
fun to sit with, you know. So yeah, football overroted. I think we should toss it.
There was like there's that Winston Churchill quote about it, like he said the difference between soccer and rugby's like soccer is a gentleman's game played by hooligans, and rugby is a hooligan's game played by gentlemen. Are you're saying that made me really think about being like all right, and good day to view number twenty two solid tackle.
I did separate my shoulder there.
My kid is gigantic. He's like six or five, and the first day of rugby he came home and I was like, did you how was it? Did you like it? It was like recess with linemen.
It was so fun.
That was like lunch recess where you're just like running around slamming into each other.
Yeah. Yeah, By the way, it sounds like your son is like a tremendous athlete. Yeah. This year, for my senior year, I decided to like play all the sports and like win state in one of them.
Yeah.
Very cool. Congratulations, thank you, thank you. Congratulations to the team. Yeah. What's something you think is underrated?
I just watched Nanny, directed by nik Yatu Jusu, and I don't know if you've heard of its phenomenal. I feel like it's not getting enough love. Not I've hardly seen anybody talking about it. It's so beautifully shot, it's it's like a psychological horror movie about a nanny who works for this wealthy white family and she is black. And it is so good and it is chilling and
beautiful and heartbreaking and just a really incredible film. So yeah, and I haven't seen seen like hardly anybody talking about it, So yeah, I love it.
Yeah. Came out in twenty twenty two, and I remember when it came out, like the reviews were so positive and I was like, I've got to see this, and then it just disappeared from yeah, like the conversation. So yeah, Yeah, I.
Think people were a little like just in a horror movie, you know, because it's sure, it's real, it's different and it's real, and it's it's really interesting and h and they take it in like incredible directions. So I think kind of horror fans were some horror fans were a little like I just think during that. Yeah, so they didn't like it, But I loved it. I thought it was absolutely stunning.
And you can watch that. It would appear on Max the one to watch dot com And I just said, Nanny where to watch because I speak to Google like I'm just learning the English language, and mine says, you have to throw your your pennies at your your tuppens at Jeff Bezos for this one.
Oh really Yeah, I watched it on Amazon Prime, but I think it's up around.
Okay, hey, look pick your poison. You know it can be Miles. Miles has a professional relationship with Bezos, and I have one with zas Love. So our listeners know, Yeah, we're always doing the work. Got we gotta chat through bald bros. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some dystopian ship. And we're back. It's the Dystopia block, all right. So Neuralink got FDA approval, is what all the headlines are saying.
The story goes they received long awaited FDA approval to begin brain tests and human subjects suing. The company will conduct invasive brain surgery on humans to determine whether it's mind reading technology can help people with severe paralysis regain control over their bodies using only neural signals. But Elon Musk has also said that like he wants this to
basically turn us all into cyborgs. Like, yeah, basically this is stepping stone for Elon Musk to achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence, and yeah, this is this is whild because I get where they're starting, right, They're starting from like a noble place about trying to help people with paralysis, you know, like and using this. But then like when you zoom out to what his endgame is, he's like, I want to merge the human brain with AI. And we just saw what.
Happened in that Ronda Santis Twitter space fiasco. The guy can't even get a live stream fucking going that. Now, I love that. The way this is where it is to begin invasive brain surgery to determine whether it.
Can help people. So what happens for the you know, the ones that that they determined it does not work in fact work. Yeah, it had previously been rejected for just like the sloppiest sounding reasons. It was like, yeah, they were concerned about the like they you need to put a stick a lithium battery in there, and also they're worried that like wires could migrate to other areas of the brain and we we also and also whether the device could be removed without damaging brain tissue. All
seem pretty like pretty big significant concerns. We should also note that he has said before. This news is only coming from neuralink, and Elon Musk has falsely touted regulatory approval before. In twenty seventeen, he wrote on Twitter that his tunneling firm, The Boring Company, had received verbal government approval for an underground hyperloop from New York to DC, and that was news to every official involved in approval from New York to DC. Yeah, em what you on, Emma?
Where are you are you?
Are you part of this seventy eight percent of people that have said I'm not interested in shoving shit into my brain?
Yeah?
No, I think I'm hard in that seventy eight percent. It makes me sad because I feel like I'm a huge star trek man, and I feel like this is the kind of thing that, like, you know, ten years ago, I would have gotten pretty excited about and like we're doing it. Look, we're doing it. But now it's like, uh, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna get a Tesla lobotomy. I think, No, I don't think I'll do that. Yeah. I think, like you said, like, Elon Musk has shown himself to be
incompetent in pretty much every area. So yeah, no. And and also I saw a line in that article that was talking about like like you were saying the wires. I'm like, we're doing this with wires, that's where that's where we're at.
Yeah, oh we're we're.
We have a lithium battery. Like this is like a walkman, you glue to your head Like I don't. Yeah, just doesn't sound very high tech.
Yeah, you can't fly in an airplane though, with that lithium battery in your skull. Hold on, but you got a lithium battery up there?
Oh fuck? No, no, no, you don't need like major brain surgery every time the double as run out and you need to replace them.
No, No, it's really I mean, like I get to like to to your point right all the time.
I feel like, even as a kid, I'm like, oh, I wonder I wish there were glasses you could look at somebody and like know what they do for a living, or like pull this data or whatever. Like you're so like I was so curious as a kid. That's exactly the only way I've ever been able to conceive of this is right, give me a terminator vision exactly.
But now I think as we see just how like the difference between like what we maybe expect to happen, and then you see the people that are involved in making it happen.
You're like, ah, no, no, no, no, I don't trust this. Got to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to merge your brain with AI. Yeah, how's that You're already a creative person, But what if you could just you know, muddle all of that ability to think by having a bunch more data being fed into your head.
Yeah, And he kind of threatens you with it, like, listen, even in a benign scenario, humans will be left behind by AI, so you might as well just merge them into your brain for a best case scenario. Yeah, it's a great reason for that.
In a quote, he said, it's not going to be suddenly neuralink will have this neural lace and start taking over people's brains. Ultimately, he wants to achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence, and even in a benign scenario, humans would be left behind. So it's like, you know, in his ideal scenario, you are creating a group of superhumans who can afford like massively expensive elective surgery to like
enhance their brains. And that's his ideal scenario of course, because as he's let us know, like he is a fucking fascist Nazi, so like, of course that's kind of his end goal is to make it so that wealthy
people can you know, turn themselves into uberminch. Help me, like understand what is this benign scenario like where or even like where you're like, damn, I'm glad I got that chip because what you have the chip and now what you're you have a job in advertising because you can just like like regurgitate chat GPT like it's coming from your mind or something.
Yeah, this whole thing is just like when he bought Twitter, where it just comes down to basically his own insecurity. And I feel like this is basically Elon Musk being like I'm not a smart man, right, and I need a chip in my brain so it can seem like a smart man.
Right. He's like right, basically that.
But yeah, I guess that's that's in the benign scenario. You're like somebody's like, huh, I wonder what the weather is next week, and you can just boom, you accessed it. You know, you're like wait slink twice and yeah, yeah, yeah.
We talked about how that interview where he like came up completely blank for like fifteen seconds and then just like described a gift from a movie from like this Bride. Yeah, so it's like he is like man that everybody would
want that. It's like no, just just you man, your brain is like uniquely uncreative and weird and like even as a product, Like if I'm just like stepping back and like viewing this as like if you're an investor, like the thing that is like unique about humans, Like if you just think about when you learn to drive a car and suddenly like the car becomes an extension of your body. Like it's not because it's like implanted
in your brain. It's that you like humans are really good at just like learning things, and then those things like become kind of invisible and it becomes sort of like a neural input. You don't need to do brain surgery to achieve that. Like that like the product that ultimately will do well is something that achieves what he's looking to do, but doesn't need to be fucking like you don't need to like cut a hole in someone's
skull to like start using it. You know, like it'll probably be like glasses or like you know, there are people. They're neuroscientists who have experimented with like a little sensor that goes on the on your back and like sends you messages via just like a coat of like electrical stimulations that you learn their people who have done it with like little electrical stimulations on your tongue and like that allows blind people to kind of get a map
of like what's around them. So like that there are better versions of this. His is just like the shitty, flashy version.
I feel yell and it starts off in a good place where you're like, I'm trying to see if the tech technologically we can help people that like wouldn't that could probably help from this potentially mind reading technology. So when he's saying but at the end of the day, though, yeah, what this ship is really for is to get your brain hooked up to AI. And again, I really don't
see the use case for that. If I'm nice, again, like you're saying, you're such a dufus, Like you're the kind of guy, like he seems like the kind of guy who like sleep with the textbook under his pillow and be like that's.
How less study for the test. It'll happen like this, and.
Now you're just like, read the fucking book, mak, Yeah, read the book.
No you need a fucking brain chip. No, I need a brain implant. So next time I'm asking to say exactly, I'll have it, just I'll download it.
I think it's sad because I feel, like, like you said, there's these practical applications, but even beyond, you know, helping someone who's paralyzed or someone who's blind or deaf or something navigate the world a little easier. I think it's sad because, like something like this, some sort of neuralink could be used for like communication, for connection, for like bringing us all together. But because of capitalism, it's like fascism. That's what it'll be used for. Is fascism. For sure.
It's superhuman and leaving other humans behind. Now, oh cool, but what we all want to thank you? Yeah? Yeah, when it comes down to it, I feel like it'll look like World War Z, where all like the global pores are like like running like at their spaceships to bring them down manually as they try to leave. It's not going to be because you have neurallink. Yeah, all right, another little piece of dystopia, Like all the shit could be from Black Mirror easily. This one low tech. This
is low tech back. This is a little low low tech, but it is I don't know. It seems like a piece with the ethos of some of the kind of cultures and civilizations you see in Black Mirror. Texas keeps loosening gun laws, but not to worry, because school children are being given books starring Winnie the Pooh, in which Winnie the Pooh and friends teach children what to do
if there's an active shooter in their school. It says, like what one of the pages we have here, if there is danger, the police will come fast to catch the stranger. Until then, remember what Pooh and his crew said to do? Run, hide, fight? That is so that just breaks my fucking heart. You're a child has like in the fucking font is so like you know, kid's book and it's like the words are balloons. Yeah, And I'm sorry. I feel bad for kids in Texas because
because the anniversary of Uvalde was just last week. But you're saying if if there's danger, the police will come fast.
Yeah, I'm not sure even that part is true, Like there's and then on top of it, be like okay, so here's what to do.
Here's a great entry point, Winnie the Pooh. Yeah, for the hide page, there's a picture of Poo with his head in a pot of honey, which seems like a terrible hiding place and also seems pretty dangerous, Like you at this age, it's just the people who design this book are like so out of out of touch with like what you are worried about when you're a parent that like you don't want children sticking their heads in like small small things like that.
No, like the fight page, the fight page, Okay, the whole thing is bleak enough, but run and hide. You're like, okay, yeah, i'd have to tell my seven year old to do that.
Fight.
Yeah, we're telling these kids to fight back now against the gunman?
Is there.
I don't see the page here, but you know, like it's like, okay, everybody, get your broomsticks or something. I mean, I don't even get your get your little scissors that at the that have like the blunt point so that you can't put yourself.
For safety scissors.
Right, you've got your marks. Like it's so bleak, it's so terrible.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's like you can stay safe with scissors, just the same drag this blade across their jugular vein and you're like, what the fuck you? What is this? Ebit? Yeah, it's yeah, I don't I don't have the book, so I'm not sure what the fight, you know, advice is, but hope can we imagine? Yeah? And then in Texas's neighbor are they neighbors Texas and Arizona.
Arizona has something going on, So that Arizona State Senate just held a special committee to investigate the government's response to COVID nineteen on the local, state, and federal level, which I think that in theory, sure there were some big fuck ups that happened. It lasted for two whole days on Thursday and Friday, with an all Republican committee inviting the testimonies of a bunch of conspiracy theorists and
bullshit artists. Also, it's called the novel Coronavirus Southwestern Intergovernmental Committee, which seems like it's like, all right, that's a big mouthful of words. Why would they have named it that. It's because that acronym works out to a QAnon dog whistle, that's it. Yeah, So it actually there's a q Andon phrase, nothing can stop what is coming, and they were like, that's how we'll let them know that we get what's going on here.
It's wild though, too, like that it's chaired by this woman's state centator, Janey shamp a former nurse who was fired for refusing to get vaccinated. Like, yeah, that you see what the bona fides are for people to run for office these days. It's like, this woman is running for New York State Legislature. She's the woman who got in a fight over a city bike with some young black kids, Like you remember her, She should be in
the government, and now like this is your campaign. Shit, it's like I should be in the government because I
wouldn't get vaccinated and I'm one of the martyrs. And you're like, yep, yep, yep, yep, good enough for us, and cut to this complete, just fucking clown show where they're completely you know, turning the tension away from the actual roots of maybe what happened in their state that made them, you know, suffer the worst fatalities in terms of like per capita for yeah, like in the United States.
Yeah, the worst death rate of any state in the US.
Yeah, I mean I'm living this up here. So you know, in Idaho, like during our legislative session, there was a bill introduced in the House to make mRNA vaccines illegal, right and administering them illegal. So and like in our health our health board, there's like a q Andon doctor, Ryan Cole, look him up. He's like a q Andon conspiracy guy. He says that it caused the vaccines caused cancer. Like, you know, that's exactly the kind of stuff happening up here.
And we had high death rates up here, especially for how small of our population is, and tons and tons of disabled people because of long COVID and stuff. And yeah, kind of the exact same thing happening up here. All Republican you know, pretty much all Republicans House passing things like we're gonna make m RN it all right, We're gonna make mRNA illegal, the entire thing.
So it's weird.
I feel it for Arizona on this one, it's it's.
Weird because it's there's like this weird like they can't reconcile, like their anger of that there's a pandemic, but also there's clearly like a mortal fear of what it could happen to you while also trying to persuade yourself that
it's nothing at all. Yeah, And like balancing all those is so wild because it just leads you to be like like because they're angry, like we need to figure out what went wrong, because some people will reference that people died, but then they're like, but it's not the vaccines.
We want hydroxy chloric When you're like what the fuck, Like, yeah, so is it a threat? Is it not a threat? Are you scared? Or or am I a pussy because I wear a mask?
Like we had we had protests like all through you know, the first year of COVID, we had protests up here in Boise at the capitol like almost every weekend of people there earning masks, protesting the mandates. Never had a single mandate in Idaho, never had a mask mandate, never
had like closure mandate. Like everything was very wide open and like you could kill as many old people as you wanted in Idaho, And but people were still there, like you said, like they're so angry and they're so mad, and they would be down there protesting mask mandates when they're like it was it was people were so angry and they never really figured out why I think, and they're still really angry, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
The people on this, like the members of the Arizona Board, include people who decry masks as a form of tyranny, Like don't they in retrospect, like after we've got some distance, like realize how stupid that is or no. And they're also like pushing i've remect in hydroxychloroquin and calling for investigations into doctor Fauci. But yeah, I mean, as we reference, like they should be doing that. People should be looking into Arizona's mishandling of COVID and definitely mishandling of COVID
at the federal level. But in the case of Arizona, it was the only state in the nation where COVID nineteen was the leading cause of death during the pandemic. Former Governor Steve Doocy pandered to conspiracy driven politicians by resisting lockdowns, issuing executive orders prohibiting vaccine mandates. And yeah, the death rate was about the same as the world the world's hardest hit countries, including Russia, Bulgaria, and Peru.
So yeah, we need to be looking at these things, but instead they're being looked at by the people who caused the problem. Yeah, well, I.
Think it's it's kind of I don't want to say genius, but the way they've co opted the fear around it, and they've been able to like blend it together with like economic anxieties and things too, because people will say lockdown equals loss of income, although I've been experiencing a loss of income for decades now, and by sort of putting that in front of people, you can now all of that anger is really about COVID and these masks
and shit like that, when really it's not that. It's the lack of support and the inequality that fucking ninety eight percent of Americans are experiencing. So on that level, they've really done it. They've really done a great job of just being like no, no, no, no, don't forget not economic issues.
It's these fucking tyrannical mask people, right and yeah, and immediately people can connect with like, yeah, I didn't work, that's right, that's true, not because of you know, uh, these like the greed of you know, business owners or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our writer Jam actually tuned into this for a minute on Friday, and there was a guy just ranting about hydroxychloroquin with a piece of clip art of the Genie from Aladdin as a
visual aid. So you know, they all hate Disney until it's time to make a PowerPoint presentation and then it's I don't even know what.
I don't understand this slide. It says when the lancet said, hydroxychloroquin causes ventricular arrhythmia, and then it's like the Genie coming out of the land.
Oh well, you haven't seen the reveal yet, Miles, It's it's gonna be. Is it like you've never had a friend like me? Is it referencing a song? Like? What what am I? What connection am I supposed to make with the genie? Robin Williams. Yeah, fun, Yeah, I.
Guess maybe it's just enough to be like and Disney. So there's that, and people like huh huh yeah, bad, all bad, Yeah.
All right, let's take a quick break and we will come back and talk about a couple good hopeful, good good. We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, And that a Republican read some medical research and not the do your own research no medical research, but like actual medical papers, and.
That is like news listen to like every you know, professional medical association and pediatric care group.
So my mind is still bon So. Louisiana State Senator.
Fred Mills is a Republican, Okay, And just to just so you know what kind of Republican he has, like a flawless record as an anti abortion sikhoh, like he's got one of those perfect ratings from those anti abortion groups. But he just used his position to make his state the first in the South that has voted down a ban on gender affirming care for minors.
And you're like, huh what. As the chair of the Health.
And Welfare Committee, he blocked a a gender affirming care band bill from reaching a floor vote. And you're probably thinking, is this one of those moves where they vote down like the super vile, extreme fucked up version to make it seem like, Okay, we're not that bad, and then just replace it with one that's just like a couple degrees less like fucked up. No, it's that he read
medical reports and analysis. He read the report from his own state, the State of Louisiana's Department of Health, that said what basically all medical professionals have been saying about gender affirming care. No, it's not mutilation. It absolutely saves kids' lives. It's not something people come to regret like at some kind of ridiculous thirty percent rate or whatever.
Like those weird talking points that Republicans have.
Most kids getting this kind of care are around fifteen and seventeen, not four years old. Also, no minor child has ever received any kind of fucking surgery, despite all the lies you hear about like these doctors who will
like mutilate your child, this, that, and the other. So when he voted to kill the bill, he basically said, I read the reports and the stats, and I was convinced that this is something that should be left between a patient and a doctor, because ultimately I trust doctors and that they're not like groomer pedo demons like my colleagues have been saying.
I just I don't know. I just read the thing. And again it's important to note that while there's this report from the Department of Health of Department of Health in Louisiana, there was a similar report from Florida last year that a lot of Republicans have been waving around to be like, look at this report on gender affirming care from Florida. Okay, this is this is why, this is what we're fighting for. This is the report, as you can imagine, coming from Ronda Santiss, Florida, was devoid
of any kind of real medical research or anything. This is what This is how a Yale professor categorized this quote unquote medical report from Florida. Quote.
The report makes false statements and contains glaring errors regarding science, statistical methods, and medicine, ignoring established science and long standing authoritative clinical guidance. The report instead relies on biased and discredited sources, including purported quote expert reports that carry no scientific weight due to lack of expertise and bias. So
repeated and fundamental. So repeated and fundamental are the errors in the June second report that it seems clear that the report is not a serious scientific analysis, but rather a document crafted to serve a police agenda. And you're like, wow, how did this happen? Anyway, the whack jobs and his party already calling for the bill to be bypassed and sent.
To the floor for a full vote.
The governor in Louisiana is a Democrat and he would most likely veto it. But again, it's a fully read state House, so they could override the veto, so it could be an interesting merry go around. But for now, this is a great moment for anybody who is who gives a shit about gender affirming care and writes for trans people, and just a brief it's just like this weird moment where a guy that looks like a cartoon version of Republican like actually read the facts and I'm
still I'm still shaken to my core. And yeah, now he's being harassed, like the national right wing apparatus is like this guy's a groomer and already coming after him. And when he was asked by the local paper if he cared about all the people focused on him, he said, quote, why should I didn't run to serve them?
They don't live in District twenty two. They don't even have a three three seven area code. Wow. Interesting think for yourself sometimes, Yeah, it pays off. It's just yeah, the similar thing happened. I feel like in Utah where they had like a super hardline bill and there.
Was like well when pasted in Idaho. Up here this session, HB seventy one passed the House that it bans all gender firming care for minors. The governor signed it becomes law January first up here, and we're all ready between that and our extremely draconian anti abortion laws, we're actually seeing a ton of medical professionals leave the state. We're
losing a ton of doctors. Because I talked to a doctor on my podcast or our podcast, I guess, but he said that, like, you know, you go to school for ten to fifteen years, you can't risk a felony charge. You can lose your medical license for a felony charge. And all it takes is somebody to say that you
provided gender firming care to a minor. You don't even have to be fully indicted and everything like that and be found guilty, because what will happen is just the charge itself will make it so that you lose your malpractice insurance and you can never get it back once you've lost it. It's very difficult. So he's they were like losing tons and tons of doctors from the state right now because they're like, I'm not going to fuck with that. I'm not going to risk losing my malpractice insurance.
And I kind of feel like in a way that Idaho, you know, the Idaho, Utah, Florida. These places were like test cases for these really horrible, horrible laws, and what you're seeing is places like Louisiana say, oh, actually, maybe this is a terrible fucking idea. Also, sadly, I watched all the hearings for HB seventy one, and it was very, very heartbreaking to see how many of the Republican senators and House members said, I read the research, this all
the research goes against this bill. I have trans family members, that this will affect minors, I think this bill is terrible. Still voted for it. They all still voted for it. And it was like a ton of people who were like, I'm morally opposed to this, and then still voted for it because they didn't want to deal with the falloup. They didn't want to to deal with the national right wing you know, fascist machine coming after them, so they just voted.
For it, right. Yeah. I mean it's it's like, it's so this the the way this guy looks. I gotta show you this guy, doctor Fred Mills. He like, if I just showed you, based off just a vibe check, be like this Republican you think he's a where do you think he lies there. He's got like a like an all white seersucker suit, like he looks like fob
Horn Leghorn as a doctor or some shit. But yeah, it is like again, and I think this is only to do with the fact that his background is a pharmacist probably led him to have half a fucking brain when it comes to like medical research to know, Yeah, there's shit, I don't know. Yeah, and if all of these professionals who like I know are not like like you know, gooney whack jobs, are saying this is actually beneficial for these like young people, who the fuck am
I have like pushed back against that. And yeah, and like a lot of people suspect, you know, his terms coming up and this is maybe like his last act to do something like normal before like you know, exiting politics. But my god, yeah, he clearly wasn't phazed by like
people like Matt Walsh coming after him. Because we're seeing constantly, like you know, like we talked about last week the target stuff, how many how easily you're seeing people cave to this kind of outrage in a time that like you know, this the attacks on like gay and transgender people in America is just it's like there have been a hundred bills I think that have been anti LGBTQ bills that have signed in the last five years, and
fifty of them have come this year. Jesus Christy Like that's the that's like the rate at which the shit is ramping up.
And yeah, we're in a time more than ever where we need to be able to like demonstrate like that we stand with these communities. But again, you have enough people who want to go live on Instagram and tear down your fucking store displays in a target and then yeah, it's it's causing a real back and forth that it's unfortunately just yeah, leading to more discord and violence.
Yeah, and again I like it really is not the majority of people. Like this is a extremist group that is taking control of like politics, and it's like carefully coordinated and they're using insurgency tactics to like and dark money and the fact that they have a lot of
money behind them to do these things. But I mean, like, there there's this recent report that like eleven people are primarily responsible for the majority of book ban requests, like the right, like that we're seeing that happen in so many places across the country and it's just like a
handful of extremist people. Again, it reminds me of like the Westboro Baptist Church, where for a decade they were like at all these events and you were like, man, people in America are so dumb, and then that you find out it's like a single family that is doing this shit, and like, I just think there is sometimes a level of like hopelessness that might take hold because the way the media covers it is that it's like, well, that's half the country and the there are reasonable people
in the other half, and it's like not, it doesn't seem to actually be the case.
Yes, well, I've seen it a lot with like you know, like in states like Montana other places that have had like drag bands where people come out and they counter protest the fucking ignorant people who want to go and be hateful and they're fucking outnumbered every fucking time. I've not seen one time where there are more like hateful bigots you know, out there in mass than a group of people who are there for acceptance or equality and they're like, yeah, man, there's just more people here. And
yet I think it is it is a little. It is dangerous to like kind of keep focusing on a way because it does give this impression. But just like we talked about with like Moms for Liberty, there were enough parents who saw Moms for Liberty groups pop up in the areas and they were just like talking to other parts like this is bullshit, right, and they're like yeah, and like do you even know these people? Are like no, I never fucking heard of these people.
They don't even have kids in our school district.
Yeah, they're well funded, and they're yeah, exactly, really well organized. Like when HB seventy one went to the governor, like when it was the anti trans bill went to the governor's desk here, you know, everybody, all of us were like call, call, call the governor email And in the end he got thousands and thousands of calls and emails in support of trans people and against this horrible bill.
But the group funding it, the Idaho Family Policy Center, which is funded by outside money, people not even from Idaho. They robocalled, They set up robo calls to the governor, and they were able to make it look like they had more more calls like on paper, But then it turned out that they had spent like five thousand dollars to get these these calls. They were just robo calls. They were fucking fake. So like, yeah, I think it's easy to think, oh, oh, we're outnumbered by these bigots.
But even here in e which is probably one of the hardest places to be trans like Florida and Idaho maybe are the hardest places, but even here, I really think that the average person does not give a shit.
And it's really these outside actors who are the same people who are burning masks, are the same, like you know, they just they were able to take this group of people, get them very fired up, these QAnon people, get them fired up about masks, get them fired up about tyranny, and then now they can just laser beam them to anything they want essentially, And it's it's not that many people, like you said, it's like eleven people with a lot of time on their hands.
Right, yeah, yeah, And I like the I think this is distinct from Trump's supporters. I think Trump does have a lot of supporters who show up at the ballotbot like unfortunately, like that doesn't seem to carry over it like the stuff that focuses on like trans people and you know, gender affirming care and you know a lot of the school book bands, Like I think think most people, even if even if they're Trump supporters, are like, I don't want my children to like not be able to
read books. But like the Trump the Trump supporter and the q Andon thing is like it maybe not q Andon, but the Trump supporter base is always like surprises me in the other direction, like how big it actually turns out to be. Unfortunately.
Yeah, well, I mean there's there's a white grievance politics, and then they're totally off the walls like we basically want Nuremberg laws, yes, you know, for gay people. And that's I think, you know, that's like the one historical parallel that we have to be able to be Like they're like, we're.
Seeing this momentum building against a group that is on the margins of our society, and this is I don't know my history, my history lessons. I'm like, okay, and what we got an election coming up, and I've read all these stories about how Trump's next by to the Apple is like going to be if he gets into office, all about radically expanding the powers of the president's office. Yeah,
and it all. I don't know, seems seems really bad just as a historical pattern, which is why like, yes, let's get you a Winnie.
The Pooh book and.
Fight. Yeah yeah, I think that would be really nice and soothing. Yeah, maybe that's what I need. That's what it takes, all right. Well, Emma, it's been such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Thank you. Yeah, this has been so fun.
Where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all that good stuff?
Well, like you said, I have five albums and you can listen to them anywhere you listen to albums. I also have two specials on YouTube you can watch. They're both very funny. Yes please, and myself and I post pictures of clouds on Instagram, but I don't really do a ton of social media. I'm on Twitter, but I don't do a ton with it. Yeah, those are the
places you can find me. And you have a podcast, Oh, I am the host of Citycast Boys, so yeah, you can listen to me there if you're interested in boise. And then I have a podcast called The Book of Holy Fuck, which I don't update very often, but it's a horror storytelling podcast. But the episodes take me a very very long time because they're brutal, they're very hard to do so but they're great. I have another one coming out here pretty soon, but yeah, they take me.
I was like, oh, I'm going to do these once a month, once a year. It's a once a year podcast, so people really look forward to it.
And is there a work a media that you've been enjoying.
Yes, I just finished and I think I'm going to play through again Disco Elysium. I don't know if you've played through it. It's like this incredible RPG storytelling video game and it's Estonian and it is so beautiful and so bizarre, and it was made by these guys who had like a tabletop role playing game that they created their own universe, and then from this gigantic universe that they created together, they created this video game and I
for one play through, I need it. I immediately was like, I have to play through this again because every decision that you make drastically alters what happens and it and it is just like it's wild. It's so big and it's so brilliant, so beautiful, and it's all kind of steeped around the Death of Communism and and and lots of things. It's it's incredible. You have to if you haven't played it before, you have to play it. It's so beautiful.
Yeah, the Wild, Yeah, it got it on Switch Poppy.
Yeah, it's it's a lot, it's so elysium. Yeah, it's it's Uh. My husband has been trying to get me to play it for years because he knows I love an RPG. But I started it and it's I was like, this seems sad. But then because it's post to sort of post apocalypsey and it's got like a supernatural element, it's incredible and you're solving a mystery, and I encourage you. I played it very straight the first time around. I have a tendency to do that. Play it as weird
as you want. That's my advice. If you play it, don't be afraid to get very weird with it. I played it very I was like worried about losing. You can't lose the game, so it's I mean, you can die, and I did a bunch of times. I got killed by a fan about seven hundred times.
So is it pretty fast paced or is it kind of like turn based RPG?
It's so like it's tech space, so you'll you'll go and talk to somebody and then you have these different options and then from there different very weird things will happen or and then they'll be like you you are totally just sort of like choosing exactly where you want to go and how you sort of direct the story yourself. And so when I played through, my husband came in and was like, oh, did you did you meet so
and so? And I was like no, I never even got to play an entire part of the game because I had not said the right thing to one person, So I missed like a third of the game, which is incredible because I can't believe how big it is. But yeah, it's I don't I would not say it's fast paced. There's you can read it or listen to it. There's a lot of dialogue to it, but it's all really beautifully written, and the story is really really interesting and the world like, the deeper you get into it,
you just can't believe the world building. It's just incredible. So yeah, and if you if you like the game, research the history of what happened to the people who made it, because they got massively fucked over in a way that they predict in the game, like that capitalism will fuck like fuck over people in the game. If the people who made the game get it's actually really fascinating what ended up happening to them. I suggest you check it out. They get massively fucked over almost in
the exact same way. So wow, sort of prophetic, very sadly, but an incredible game, So check it out.
I don't play video games, but I love having video games described to me for some reason, and that that was a very enjoyable experience.
The thing I could describe this one to you for three hours.
Oh yeah, I just like that, like we might help describe it, just like having very little combat because that is something that is so like central to so many video games, like where's the fucking action?
And I like that this one is really based on like your decision making and how you're navigating and.
And your emotional state, like you It's very interesting because so much is built around like if you have empathy, yeah, if you're brave, if you're cruel, like it's it's very it's very interesting.
Yeah, sounds like a nice respite from my day to day life, which is all based around my combat ability miles. Where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying?
Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, other app based services at Miles of Gray. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast Miles and Jack Got Mad Masses. And if you like ninety day Fiance in the trash universe around that, check out my other show with Sophia Alexandra called four twenty Day Fiance.
Yeah, Sophia is the best. She really likes Idaho too.
Well, She's come up here quite a bit. We're friends, she's visited, she comes up here, she likes Idaho.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it all makes sense. Yeah, so Sophia, you're hearing this. I know you don't literally listen to that, guys, but I know you spiritually you are. Right now, let's see some work of media. Man at Blockbuster on Twitter just always like with the saltiest Netflix clapbacks, although I'm always like, these are kind of weird because y'all could have bought Netflix and them out of the room,
so it's a little interesting. But anyway, at Netflix tweeted a friendly reminder that when you used to run videos from us, we didn't care who you shared it with as long as you returned it on time, and then they put at Netflix. Okay, Eddy as fuck. Actually I don't know that that's true because of one of the tweets that I've been enjoying, ok miles, where Ron Iver tweeted kids in the nineties, I'm just gonna pop in this one hundred and one Dalmatians vhs FBI. If you
do copyright infringement, we are going to hunt you. Kids in the nineties. What's copyright infringement? FBI, we will bury you in God's earth. So I seem to remember a lot of warnings at the beginning of that that was like you can't publicly show this to other people. You were fuck you over. I wasn't shook by it. I was always I did like read it sometimes and be like, what is this? What are they warning about?
And I remember, yeah, my I remember as a kid, because every video you watched had that like very that same visual that came up. I remember asking my parents are like, it's nothing, don't worry about it.
They were like, you see you see what happens you Are you pirating? Are you pirating?
And I was like, are you a pirate? Hired? Are you are. Does that mean anything to you?
Are?
Why are you tossing a knife between your hands? Jigo Goes tweeted, I can't believe the universe gave Trump another Jeb And I think that's what we're looking at. I really think that's a good summation of what we're seeing from just from yeah, Rob as Trump has started calling him Rob. He started calling him Rob just like you just to him.
No, I hate how good it insults.
He's so good.
He's so good at it, and like, really, I'm like, it's okay to call someone by the Trump's nickname for them, like it's so funny.
But it's when it's Robbed DeSantis. I think so. I think we're just But yeah, I think that is the main thing. That's why he has the big following and these other assholes don't. Oh, it's all brand because it's branding because he is fun to watch. Yeah, and that's as he as he brings fourth to fourth Reich. Yes, you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're
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And if you're an elder millennial like me who likes rat, this kind of fits.
It's a very interesting space. This is a remix by Nimino and I am I n oh and you can.
Only find this on SoundCloud. And uh, it's a it's a mashup of Kendrick Lamar and radio Head. Uh, and it's pretty good. I gotta say. It's using the instrumental from Everything in its Right Place with what is it?
Is it? United in Grief? What's going to take off? The food? Food, take off, the take off everything? That track from Mister Mole might be? Yeah, is that the one that's the first track?
Anyway, it's Kendrick, It's it's Radiohead, it's an it's a.
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for us this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we will talk to you all then. Bye bye m