Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy eight, episode one of Daly's geist action of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American's share consciousness. And it is Monday, March six, twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien. AKA, You're the worst around, eat a beg of shit, Bret Cabanah. You're the worst around, Eat a beg of shit, Brett Cabanah. And he wrote it a third time, so we'll go You're the worst at what that didn't go on? You mean,
when it doesn't go on long enough? Right when you're just yeah, I have to write what is written for me in the AKA is by Lockaroni in the discord shout out to them. Bret Cavanaugh came up recently because his dad was also like one of the worst humans. Just a long a lineage of destruction song a neo baby Games, Diabolical. It's kind of great. Do you are? Are you familiar with that song? Jamie who I haven't introduced yet. You're the best around the best from Karate Kids. Yeah?
Oh for me, it's from commercials. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. It's young so I haven't seen that movie. He's originally written for Rocky three actually, and then replaced by Eye of the Tiger. Yeah, I haven't heard of that. Empty young You never don't know Rocky. What is that like? Is that like an animal? We're through to be joined by today's guest co host, an Emmy nominated writer, artist, comedian behind many of the most acclaimed podcasts in existence,
such as The Bechdel Cast, Act Cast. She's the author of the upcoming book Raw Dog, which if you like Jamie lost As podcasts or the podcast you are listening to right now, you will absolutely love Raw Dog. She's been here all week, folks. It's her last It's Janie. We were all dogging a bund this place on your bookshelf, save us face. May twenty three is the release date. We were all dogging a bundless place. That is from the Underscore group literally writing ad copy. Thank you so
much for that. It's really yeah included the release date, really really thorough. I feel like my publisher likes that better than what I've been doing. So it's fun. It's been what a week, you know what. I love the Friday episodes too, because then they come out on Monday, and you're like, I mean, I'm living in a different reality. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, nobody's talking about the news stories that we're talking about anymore. And we sound crazy because we're like, did you hear
what just happened? Joe Biden? I'm the president. Whenever there's like episodes we were recording Friday to come out on Monday, I'm like, Wow, I miss this US, I miss I miss how we were back then. Well, Jamie, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest humans doing it anywhere. Truly a booking coup by superproducer. Anna Hosnia is a comedian, actor, writer, recently named a comic You should and Will Know by Vulture, which is like a very threatening way to say someone
is going to be famous, but I agree. His show with Kelly Bachman, Rape Victims or Horny two was number two on Pace magazine's twelve Best Comedy Albums of twenty twenty two. It is the brilliant, the talented Dylan album. Oh my God, nicest introduction. Thank you guys so much for having me on the podcast You will Know his name? Thank you, thank you so much for having me Jamie Loftus did the thing. Jack O'Brien, my woman, King Anna Hosnia. You're a gene yes, justin Smith, you are all of us.
So there we go. I was really I was waiting for our audience to send that to us, and I'm glad you brought it. Was it you who tweeted that it slept on how she says Hong Chow, no one was talking about Everyone was talking about a Jela Bassett, but no one was talking about how she was, Like Hong Chow, Dolly was really slept on. I think, yeah, I wanted to bring into the discourse. I it resonated. I'm thinking about it days later, same same. I feel like we just like covered that briefly, but it has
really resonated. It's like the Adina Adele Desime John troubled to thing that just has sort of not gone away, Like that performance, I feel like is just still with us. It's gonna get really, it's gonna be it's we're enjoying it now and then were and then we're gonna be upset that people because then everyone is going to learn about it, and then it's going to be bad for a while. But then it'll come back. It's like rat
impressions comes in waves. Yeah, absolutely, I agree. I brought it up the other day and crickets, Jack O'Brien, nothing not from me. Yeah, I feel like I haven't fully absorbed, absorbed too, like all of the intricacies I will be. I'm one of the people who will be making references to it in eight years, like people are over it. Yeah, exacts finally taken about doing the thing in Yeah, exactly. I mean it takes that long for it to marinate.
It's such a rich text. It's a rich text, thank you, And so it is not my fault Jamie's richness of the text. It's actually that I am treating it appropriately and taking my time getting into it. You know, gret I was being a huge bitch, and thank you. I'm glad you pick that what I was. I got. Well, I just got the message you sent me on zooms. All right, Dylan, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of
the things we're talking about later. There's a couple of Florida updates, which never good, never good these days, So we'll talk about those. I think I'm gonna ask you guys to talk about the your your impressions of a couple of the new rules for social etiquette from New York magazine. Jamie You said that you had successfully avoided this article. I have not clicked. I have not click. I'm gonna I'm gonna just take some little bits out and see what you guys think of them, Like if
you like them. Text people within three hours of hanging out with them is one that has made me start to panic about my way. If you like someone, then within three hours of hanging out with them, you must text them and say I enjoyed hanging out with you, this was a successful hangout. Oh and that is so contrary to my nature. But it but I know, like it seems like it is a rule among some people. I've definitely gotten those texts and them and like, oh yeah,
and so I don't know. I'm not I'm not mad at it necessarily, but I do want to find out if it's the reason I have no friends. So we'll talk about sending them. But I don't feel perturbed if I don't receive one, right, yeah, yeah, and I do now, Yes, I know that that article is designed to make you feel bad. We might even talk about copaganda podcast. The cops are trying to get into the podcast game, so
all of that plenty Moore. But first, Dylan, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Yes, um, so I recently searched can you take both ni quill and thailan al at the same time. I meancause I you know, I was recently I had food poisoning recently. So I was just wondering and thin from what from Oh my God, from this Mexican restaurant called if You're ever in the do Not Go. It really just fucked me up. And I just so I was trying to true to relieve the pain in any
way possible. So I was wondering if ni quill and thailan al were possible together. And apparently they have this a similar active ingredient. Yeah, that's it. That's it. So wait, so now, so you can't you can't even if you have two things that hurt you even yeah, even if you have double the amount of pain, it's like you could apparently OD So you know, I think that just that just goes to show you that I'm really quirky. And I'm like really kind of you know, looking up
what what can relieve pain in any way possible? Even if you say this one's for the leg take it and then say yeah, this one's for the headache and because I want to be sleepy, absolutely does not work. Okay, Yeah what a mess? Yeah did it work? Yeah? How how did you feel the with with the instruction you took? You took one of them, so really it would the main I took. I took one, and then after like six hours I took the next, and nothing really helped.
The only thing that helped with sleep eating crackers and uh, just kind of resting and kind of sweating it out like it was that it was just time. He sucks. Yeah, I don't think I've ever had food poisoning. I'm not sure. I feel like i've I'm asking for it kind of yeah, I ever forgotten it? Yeah, just spitting in the face of God with that claim right there, Jamie. You're just like, I know, yeah, I'm about to I'm about to have a fucking impervious to it because I never get it.
So it's just kind of like I'm just really strong. Yeah, they there's been studies that strong people don't get it. I have, I've seen them. Yeah yeah people have. Yeah, strong people with intexity don't get it. So I um, but I basically I'm suspicious because I got it on a date and I was sitting down and I was like, oh, is it okay? It was cold, and I was like, oh, sorry, is it okay if I moved tables? And they're like, oh, yeah,
totally fine. Then I got a call from my date that he couldn't park and we maybe had to go to another place. So I was like, oh, shoot, I'm so sorry. My date just called and we might have to go to another place. So then then eventually they parked and I walked back in. By this time, they everyone hates me, right like at the rest John they
hate me. So we sit down. I'm wondering if there was poison added to my food, Like I'm suspicious, and you know, so, is there a way to like, m no, this sounds like this could be used as evidence against me in the future. Is there like, is there a way to just like lightly? I guess it kind of it's like phantom thread vibes. Yeah, They're like we're gonna We're gonna get them. A little sick. Yeah, just a
little like a playful tap of poisoning. Yeah. I think it was like just a little like a like a snidge of arsenic or something like this, a little dab flirty poisoning. Yeah, just like a little quirky, little like little kind of not trying to kill me, but trying to, you know, teach me a lesson. Well, I think they're it's very brave of you to air them out publicly, because they they could come back for you. You don't know what that is very very true. That's very true.
And we might have to believe out the name of the restaurant fully bleep it out. Really maybe I don't know, I've heard of this place. Yeah, and you the listener will never know playing poisoning flirty poisoning roulette out there? Yeah. Yeah, what's uh? What's something you think is overrated? Not to be a bitch, but that hairy style song as it was, I think in the little overrated. I'm like, Okay, we're in the eighties, all right, it's a throwback. We're in
the eight Yes it was. But I'm like Grammy album winning, I don't think so. I don't think so, And like I just you know, I don't think it's bad, but I don't think it's like to go up against renaissance and ridiculous. Yeah, so I just ridiculous. Not the right decision. Um fully, it's it's it's like grocery store food. Its
grocery store listening music. It's something you listen to Harry Styles in general, huge CVS vibes to and you're just like, it's like he's doing I don't maybe it's just like a mediocrity thing, but you're just like, he's doing well for what he is. He's doing the best version of what that is. Yeah, but what he's doing is not like yeah, it's like you can't even Yeah that not that the Grammys have ever made a correct decision, but
like that over renaissance is so stupid. Yeah. Same. He has a song called music for a Sushi Restaurant, and to that, I think we can safely say you wish it's actually friends. Yeah yeah, music for a vans. Yeah. The only thing they play at a sushi restaurant is soft jazz, So better luck next time, bitch. They're not playing that ship. That's too wild for a sushi restaurant. It's jazz all the way. Yeah, it's aggressive. It's it's like so presumptuous that they think that he thinks that
they would do that. Yeah, I know. Is he just trying to like rip, like he's making like some weird Billy Joel reference there? Right? Oh yeah, maybe it is. I don't know the song well enough to know if it's like a you know, fifteen minute long opus about people he knew in middle school or whatever. Why doesn't he just his own culture music for a British restaurant or something. I don't know, everybody's favorite. Yeah, music for the sushi sushi section of Vaughans I think would be yes, yes,
I yeah, I agree. I whatever he's he's fine. I don't want to be at to be attacked by things like this don't happen to people like me, I know, good, like people who worked at a bakery. You mean, I don't know, like have you seen waitress? I'm sorry, But his greatest contribution is the movie. Feels like a movie that I think about all the time, more than any song he's ever written. Yeah, yeah, I mean, not to be a hater, I think he's fine. I don't think
he's bad. I'm just like, fine, sure, yes, what is something you think is underrated? There's this medicine that I took that wasn't ni quill or tailan al, but it's called counter attack. It's right, yes, I am, and it helped me way more than any ni quill or tailean al has done before. And I was just like, why is no one talking about counter attack? Medicines don't usually have names that are like so aggressive and actual words, you know. Usually they like make up a word for it.
And maybe that's the problem. It's like a marketing issue where it just like doesn't fit into people's brains as a medicine. It sounds like like a board game from the nineties. What's in it? I know it's um. Apparently it's like all like over the counter natural stuff, So I think a lot of vitamins, see stuff, a lot of other vitamins that I don't remember. But it's seriously like I was starting to feel sick and then I took it and it really just kind of changed my
whole out. Like I was like, damn, this is what I'm going to take every time. Maybe it's because it's in the supplement category, and supplements do have names like energy drinks sometimes, so like that that might be yeah, where it got counterattack from. I think medicines should should have names that are fun like that, Yeah, that are fun. I got a bunch of like I'd never done wellness shots because I'm not I don't think a very healthy person,
but I had. I had a house guest leave behind a lot of wellness shots because I think she thinks I need to kind of get my act together. So I've been doing one every morning and that I I was avoiding all of the spicy ones, and I left all of the spicy ones for last, and now it's down to the spicy ones. But those ones worked the best well, like the ginger ones. I feel way better after one of the spicy ones. It hurts, but it's helping me, and I might keep doing it. I don't know.
We'll see. She got me. She also gave me thirty six eggs, which I can't get over. I'm like, what am I going to do with it? A week tomorrow? The eggs are stressing me out. I love my friends so much. I don't know what the thirty six eggs was. What could I possibly do today with thirty six eggs? I don't know, very stressful. The biggest case saying the eggs last. I hope, So, I really hope. So. I
just like it's it's too much pressure. Yeah. I think as long as you don't crack them, don't crack them first and then leave for a week and then yea, yeah, they'll probably go bed. Yeah. If anyone in Los Angeles needs eggs, I've got too many. Yeah. Have you guys ever eaten? We were talking on trending at the end of the week that the shower orange is trending. I
was just thinking about food with naturally good packaging. The orange has has good packaging around it, which I think is why people feel comfortable eating it in the shower, because easy clean up and and it smells good. People are eating oranges in the shower, Yeah, and claiming like that that's a thing that everybody should be doing. That it should be part of our shower regions. There's a community. Yeah, there is a like thriving subreddit for shower orange. Wow
that I don't know. I don't know, all right, good for them. There's a lot of places you can put your energy, and that's one of them. That's Wow. Do you think I bet people met on that board and got married. There's sixty nine people online right now on shower orange Reddit, just sixty nine currently concurrently. Okay, I think I do like this a recent post. I've found people. I had no idea there were more people eating shower oranges until it came across a news article to me today.
I moved to a house with orange trees and would often grab one from my tree before getting in the shower, and everyone made fun of me. Eighty thousand people can't be wrong. You've made my day. Eighty thousand. Oh my god, eighty thousand shower oranges can't be wrong. I really am like torn between wanting to bully them or radicate. It's hard.
I think I have to try it first, and I have to I think, try it just like yeah, I have to try it to see if maybe I'm a part of this community, Like right, it's maybe you'll find your people. Yeah, I mean, oranges are so sticky, like so that's kind of nice that you're just having it rinsed from you the second that you get it all over your hands. But that's so true. It's juicy, it's messy, it's kind of a it's a big endeavor. So to
do it where you just already are washing yourself. I mean, as I'm talking about it, I might think I'm a part of the community. All Right, we're all gonna take a quick break. We're gonna go and do a shower orange real quick. We'll be back stopping. Post is a poem. I post is so hi, I want to try this. Do you just peel them in the shower and then clean everything up afterwards? Dirty ap peeled the orange before
you get in the shower. And then there's forty five comments explaining, wow, most of the time, I don't peel. I just rip in half and dive in like a starving monkey. And then someone says, exactly, I do this too, Beard. The community, the community is just it's thriving. It's nuts. Oh my god, I really want a celebrity to come out as like an orange person. And then it's like Ellen where it's like, oh, I'm a I'm a groundbreaking person.
Now people who are orange eaters can have shows in Hollywood, and then it just takes the same like people magazine cover like yeah, and the shower, the shower orange historic. All right, Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna let you know how our shower orange experience was, and we're gonna talk about a place where oranges come from. I'm getting really good at segways. Everybody acknowledge Florida. Florida is a place
where oranges come come from. We'll be right back and we're back and yeah, so there were a couple of Florida stories. By the way, did everybody enjoy their shower oranges? Are we? Are we all shower orange people? Yeah? We're I mean we're all sopping wet and on zoom. Yeah. I unfortunately couldn't decide because I hadn't done enough research on how to peel the orange. And you know that there's so many opinions out there whether you should just break it in half or you know, I just sort
of I dove in like a starving monkey. I would I would recommend that approach. That was good advice. Yeah, amazing. I'm a part of the showering orange community. Am coming out as that. Wow. Congratulations, brave Wow gave us the scoop in everything a comedian we should and we'll know comes out as a shower Orange community. This will be just as powerful as that Ellen thing. Yeah, just as
big in Florida. Just a couple stories from last week about Florida politicians trying to turn the state of Florida into a like dystopian right wing police state, and like more than they already have. I guess with the book Bands, this seems like it's an overall strategy where round to say and this, this this is like picking a fight with every everyone who's not a right wing like mega person, and then we'll use that to as like free publicity for his campaign, which has kind of been his it's
what his entire career has been based on. So first, last week there was one that I think we can mostly dismiss as just like a stunt. It was from a Republican state senator, a Senate bill that they're trying trying to use to render the Democratic Party non existent, dubbed the Ultimate Cancel Act, and they're they're like, this is where oh you want to cancel us, Well, we're canceling the Democratic Party. People. There is like now you know,
right wing politicians really do have a way. It's just like the most like lobotomized turn of phrase that you could possibly come up with, but it usually that it's sticky. It sticks in my head. That makes no sense, and it's like it's sticky, Well not my shoe. Well you were doing it wrong, Jack, you shouldn't be getting sticky. I ripped it open after I got out of the shower, and a very good ambassador for our community right now,
I'll say that much. Some people have compared the buil to when the Nazis did away with all other political parties, but it seems like it's more of a like publicity stunt intended to expose the hypocrisy of cancel culture and the guy who's behind it, like I mean, he's very powerful, like it used to be the head of the Republican Party in Florida, but he does just seem like kind of a carnival barker who's looking for an audience. Like
I don't I don't know. Again, I can't see this actually happening or if it does, like actually affecting policy all that much. But it just that's that's what's hard about Florida these days, is like it's easy to be like Rhonda Santis is just like talking about Disney and not paying attention to things that actually affect people's lives.
But then he actually signs laws affecting taxation and is just like super powerful, and then like bands books in children's libraries and like the we see like video of people of empty elementary school libraries. You know. Yeah, I mean I've had friends whose books are no longer like allowed in Florida. It's like it's ridiculous, And I like that, Uh, it's it's fun to dunk on Rhonda Santis and we
should and we're right to do it. But I think, yeah, like one of the scariest things about him is that he's like not an idiot like he'd and I feel like he's like developing this and maybe this falls under this category because like the language of the Ultimate Cancel Act, like it sounds like like mustache twirling cartoon villain, like cancel the filings of a political party if the party's platform is previously advocated for or been in support of,
like involuntary servitude or slavery. Like it's just like word salad. But it seems like even with the Disney stuff and the horrible book, that he's really saying, Like it almost reminds me of times that like, you know, Donald Trump would do like the dumbest thing he could think of when he was about to pass some really scary legislation, So you would talk about the dumb thing and not pay attention to the thing that actually harms people. And it feels like DeSantis is like really getting a feel
for that pattern. Yeah, I know, because part of it, like it's obviously like righteous to dunk on him, and it also it reminds me of that remember that video going around and like, well, moralists, we'll see who cancels who, like Jordan Peterson guy. Yes, yes, yes, it reminds me of that video. It's so we'll see who cancel He sounds he sounded so weird. He said like he's about to like take off in a flintstone car exactly afterward. Oh god, I know. But yeah, he wields a lot
of power. He's a very like he's like a he is a very powerful and scary figure that can do a lot of harm in his state. Yeah, And so the other one that on its face seems kind of similarly just easy to dunk on and dismiss, but actually is probably very scary in reality. They're going after bloggers, They proposed a bill that would require bloggers to register with the state if they're going to write any stories
about DeSantis or other Florida politicians, which is pretty scary. Yeah, I mean it's and they like the way they're doing it. They're like they would be required to submit monthly reports, including disclosing their pay or else risk being fined by the government. Which is this a scheme to expose how underpaid bloggers are or like that they're not paid because I don't know what they think bloggers are being paid? Or what do do I not know what bloggers are?
Is that? Well, I does the person who wrote this know what bloggers aren't? That seems like a really really broad like thee like Perez Hilton was a blogger, Like who I've not read a blog in so many years? Is this a tumbler specific piece of legislation? Like who's funding all these tumblers that are making memes about me? Rhonda Santis? Like they just assume I don't know because they do have a big like contingent of their strategy is paying bloggers who just write like hagiographic like just
love letters to Ronda Santis. So like I'm wondering if they assume that because they have to they need like billionaire secret funders for all their media, that like that's true of everyone criticizing them as well, and so that's
where they're coming from. But it really seems misguided, but at the same time, like it could very easily be the first step in like a very slippery slope right where it's like like they're doing it in my space first, and they're like, oops, now we're gonna do it on another platform, Like they okay, so you guys don't do
blogs anymore, we get it? Yeah, okay, okay, okay, reset, Like that's just oh god, I do I mean, this is like a really scared I mean, it seems like they're just trying to what like suppress any potential criticism of de santists and just like curb free speech sick love that Um well yeah, I don't know. I mean, if this vocabulary choice blows up in their face, that would be kind of funny. But it just sounds like you could apply like isn't like technically Twitter is like
micro blogging? Am I like inventing that? I feel like that's what it was called when it came out. Question mark an expression of your opinion is a blog. Any tweet about Ron de Santis will need to be officially licensed by the Florida government. How do you fucking enforce something like that? I mean, I yeah, it's just I don't know. I guess I just hope that they're not smart enough to be able to even follow with such a thing. But yeah, it does feel pretty suppressive. Yeah, yeah,
I needs to unionize all my psychic friends in Florida. Right, the last time I talked to us psychic in Florida, he was like and it was like I think it was like he was like dissing me a little bit. Oh, I don't remember the last time I've said this, but he was like, thank you so much. He you know, he's like, well, as far as where you're going to
end up, you are not welcome in Florida. And I was like, oh my god, wait, that's actually kind of a compliment, right, I know, Well, it's like I was, I mean it, but he was like he loved being in Florida, but he was like, clearly something's off. And then Florda is not for you, honey, Florida is not for me. And it's like, you know what, fine, I accept that was he saying you're not allowed in Florida
or you're not allowed to retire to Florida. When he said he just sort of said me in Florida that we it's not good where you end up is a weird Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and it's he I mean, he's he's fascinating, he says, guy Lewis Gates. He's got a YouTube channel. I watch it. He's doing all sorts of stuff. But yeah, I don't, I don't know. He said, I have no place in Florida. Florida is not for me. And then he's like, maybe she's a little more bicoastal, and I was like, yeah, yeah, there you go. Thank
you so much, Lewis. Yeah, thank you. Congratulations to you. James. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk some rules of etiquette and other stuff, and we're back. And New York Magazine, a local periodical, is
has come out with this grand project. The Weaver revisit a couple times on the show, but they're trying to give people new rules for etiquette, which I think is like, that's a fun idea like etiquette in my mind, e foaks, questions of which fork to use, and so like having a modern etiquette is good, and they are like real hit or miss. Like some of them I am fully on board with, and some of them I gave me anxiety. So I just wanted to hear what you smart people
think about these some of these rules. And I have the actual magazine in front of me. Oh wow, you got a hard caught retro. Yeah, you may notice as I've listed these out, I also have in parentheses what page they are on, so I can go consult the magazine. So the one that I that we've talked about that I agree with, I think it's never a good idea. And never tell somebody who you think they look like like that, that's not as good a conversation starter as
people seem to think it is. I I think that's right. Yeah, yeah, Oh, I hope that catches on. It's always interesting to hear from other people, but it's rarely good to hear it right, Like, yeah, it's just not going to be good for the purposes of being able to continue the conversation without just being in what way? Yeah, I would apply that to like parasocial stuff too, if I I mean I've there's never been someone who has like sent me an image that says,
this looks just like you. You look like one of the try guy that's wives, you know, And I'm just like I don't want to hear that. I don't want to I just like, I just don't want to know that that's what you're that's what's on your mind, or that's how i'm you know, that's the end. G I'm giving off, Like you don't don't tell someone that you listen to on a podcast who you think they look like. It's good. It's not gonna feel good. It's not gonna
feel good. Yeah. The one, the one exemption to this rule is that I got a lot of people telling me I looked like El Chappo's son who was like captured in a massive shootout with the police and he is young and like kind of scary. I was like, that's yeah, he's like young and hot and oh yeah, so okay with that one, I was like, that's okay, but like, maybe like run it by people before you, Yeah, put the picture in the chat. Put the picture in the chat. The picture on the chat. I think him
on a hinge, Like, okay, I don't. Yeah, I don't like like the there's also I do like this one every time a very specific episode of Law and Order SVU reruns. I look, I'm a dead ringer for like a twelve year old that got cyber bully like looks like me right now, and like her hair is kind of all over the place, like she's unkempt, she's in a horse, she's having the worst day of her life.
And everyone's like, that's Jamie and it's true. Yeah, all right, I just put and like I have Yeah, Oh wow, Jack, Yes, I see it, I see it. Yes, he's hot, he's pretty hot. I was immediately yes, yes please. And there's even like a picture of him getting arrested that looks like way like even more like me that I just put it in. So this is one. Okay, So maybe I was the first person to put this out there
and just a bunch of fake accounts of mine. Yeah right, doesn't he Yeah, it's you in like an alternate dimension a little bit kind of m anyways that if you're going to tell someone they look like someone a better be Chopo's young hot son. Yeah, yeah, all right, the
one that's fucking me up. Right now if you like them, text people within three hours of hanging out with them, and they're saying, this isn't just after a day, but like after hanging out with anyone at all, like a friend, like you need to confirm that you had a good time that I it's a lot. Take us through how you're feeling right now. Jack, Well, I just I don't.
I don't do this ever. I did. I just did it actually this past weekend for the first time after like a bunch of people trecked all the way out to Burbank to come to my five year old's birthday party, yeah at Chuggy Cheese, and I was like, that's so nice of them to come. So I was like this, this was it was so nice to see you and hang it. And also was it was a case where like I didn't get a chance to spend as much time with all the differ from people as I would
have liked to. So I just wanted to, you know, acknowledge that. But for the most part, I don't do this, And I also don't always get like I don't. I guess I don't. I've always greeted this as like, oh that was nice. They like reached back out, but now I'm going to treat it as like a thing that must happen or else I have failed. No, no, no, no, no,
what do you think done? I am? Yeah. I personally I'm a people pleases So I tend to do this after interactions, even like with friends of like, because I don't know, like, I'm just like, that was a good thing we just had. Right, Oh good, Now I can sleep. So I'm not sure if it's even healthy for me. It's even but you know, after friend hangouts after whatever, I'm just like, we're good, right, no one's mad at
each other. Okay, amazing, right, so I think And also if I really like a person like date or friend wise, I'm like, that was let's do it again. Yeah. See, I'm I'm also like always exhausted after hanging out with people because I like have social anxiety, so like I but I don't know that that also just might be like everybody's exhausted after it, but you just like make
the effort and I'm just letting myself off easy. But Becca mentioned something in the chat that I think, like sort of because I because I definitely do this, not like religiously, but like more often than not. But she's saying that, like she does this and is a follower of this rule, but has an anxious attachment style, which I do think like definitely factors into it where it's like almost like it is a nice thing that I want to do. I want to express, Hey, I had
a great time. I do this with like my best friend that I see all the time, and there is like always a little thing in the back of my head that's like we still love each o. They're right, like one of the closest people to me, been my best friend for ten years. But I'm just like, I love you so fucking much, my literal twin brother. I'm like, we're good, right, Like, yes, I get it, and usually
you are. But I guess I'll like, I'll take a center approach on this one because I definitely do it, but I don't get hurt if someone else doesn't do it. I don't get like put off. I guess so so far we've got everybody except me being like, well, yeah, I do this, of course, but I think it just might be a thing that I should do. All right, this is this is good. I'm growing the write up.
Does it contain the sentence if nobody texts with them three hours post initial meet up, not only should you not expect a friendship, but you should come to terms with the fact that neither of you respects the other, and that that feels strong but feels a little. Yeah, all right, always be the first one out. This one was confusing to me. They said, whether you're on the subway, in the office, or at a party, you should be
the first one to bounce. When things go wrong for any reason, like feeling menace, smell, smoke, not bringing anything to the situation, run for the door, which, like I do what I kind of get this Like this one is like I love to leave a party earlier, like as somebody with social anxiety, I love to be like, uh, well great talking to everyone. But I don't know, it does seem like they're just kind of licensing people to be rude. Yeah. I don't know how to feel about
this one. I guess I don't. I love I love leaving places, so I guess, sure, why not the best feeling in the world, And I hate and I and I'm horrible. I feel like one of the reasons I don't host at my house very often. First of all, because I'm afraid of people judging all the dolls I own. But second of all, because I do have some anxiety about hosting because I'm afraid of lingerers and I don't know how to handle a lingering guest. I can't deal
with it. It's I will never tell them to leave, and they they never do, and like, I's just not a personality profile I understand because I'm always trying to be out of there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, i'd say I agree with that. I don't know. Sometimes all, I actually don't mind hosting, but also sometimes when the night is ending and I'm like and I'm like, oh man, it's really getting to that hour, guys. But I mean, but if you guys want, I could pop a movie or something.
So I mean, I also don't know how to be like, y'all got you guys have to go right, So I totally I totally get that. But also whenever I'm the first one out without saying goodbye to everyone, I don't know because people please about, I'm like, oh my god, I just burned all my bridges, Like I don't know.
That's yeah, well, and then do you need to text everyone within three hours after you do that is that, like, yeah, do these dovetail some Yeah, and then if I don't say goodbye and I just leave, I'm like, oh sorry, things were weird, but you know, I hope they get to see you soon kind of situation. Yeah. Yeah, always wink is one of the things, and this one has no right up. They're just like enough said, always wink. That's bait for something. I don't know for what, but
definitely don't always wink. Yeah, I don't think so okay hard No, never answer a compliment with a compliment. M what do you do? Yeah, because I'm instead physically unable to not compliment someone after they compliment me. You're literally sick in my bones. If I don't compliment someone after that. Superproducer Becca says, you say thank you. This this list was written by superproducer Becca, so any questions can be directed to her. Oh I I could definitely stand to
do better at that. Yeah, same, Yeah. It actually it's great to talk about the weather, which like there's definitely sure a thing that was accepted in my brain, like probably from like some stand up routine I saw or something that's like it's boring to talk about the weather like old men talk about the weather, like, shut the fuck up. Nobody cares about the weather. And but I feel like now we exist at a time when it's like snowing in La and works. It's the elephant in
the room. It has to be addressed. Its crazy right now, the weather is crazy. So I think I like this one. I think we should accept it into the cannon that it's fine to talk about the weather. That's the thing that people are curious about. The weather is no longer boring. The weather is getting is getting interesting. I want to talk I talk about the weather with my loved ones and with people I find boring. I'll do it with both.
It's fine. There you go, the crowd pleaser. Yeah, never show that you're impressed by anyone, which this one feels like it's like from the Mystery Guide to like nagging and like picking up women always what is there like a list of hat suggestions we should be wearing. I always wear a funky hat that is going to start a conversation so nobody has to talk about the weather. Yeah, always wear a statement chunky necklace, like I you should be Yeah. I love to see like I love seeing
people be impressed by other people. I feel like that's like a real so tiny vulnerability you can show, like, whoa, that's awesome that you can do that. I love. I don't know. Yeah, but maybe it's because I'm a huge rude asshole and that's why I like that. Thank you. These are all just things that I pulled because I wanted you to hear them, Jamie. Yeah, yeah, you need to stop showing how impressed you are by me. Okay, Yeah, derail meetings constantly being like do you like I did? Yeah?
That was crazy you guys? All right, I think we can move on from this anything that you're taking from this list into your life going forward, other than obviously always wink, which we we've all been furiously winking at one another since since we heard that one. But yeah, I appreciate the permission to talk about the weather. That's nice.
I really really like that one. All right. Good. One piece of bad news that I don't think we have to worry about is the cops are starting to drop podcasts on our asses, copaganda podcasts on right, directly, squarely
on all of our asses. And it's hate that. Yeah, it's yeah, and they're like Toronto, I guess just upped their police budget by millions, millions of dollars, and like one of the things they're spending it on is a podcast called twenty four Shades of Blue, like, which I think is a yeah, but why what does that have to because their massacus it's confusing. Yeah, yeah, oh, is
all I have to say. But I feel like there's no appetite for this, like this is just a way for podcasters with no moral fiber to get paid a bunch of money by out of the police budget because it is, like, I don't know, podcasting I think was secretly invented to convey to people how shitty the police
are at their jobs. Like all like true crime podcasts just seem like from Cereal, which the very first podcast Cereal up through like every true crime show now it's just like people even if they don't realize it, even if like that's not the subject of the show, they're just like I just listen to one forget what it was called. But it's like one of the most popular.
I think it's like the top comedy podcast because it's like a comedy true crime thing, but like the stories are just murders where the police just fuck up the investigation like at every turn, just over and over and over again. Well, I mean, the only more embarrassing profession than being a copiss being a podcaster. Really, like how can you fucking go? So I don't know, because it's like I do know if like people in law enforcement,
who why did I say it like that? But like like it's I said it because Alex be in a way of the former Sheriff of LA had a radio show and it absolutely sucked ass and no one listened to it, but he did have it. I had some fun listening to it where it's like a forever intro and then he's like like you know, kind of like enters the room in blob form and it becomes a man over the course of several minutes. It would appears like, I mean, was sponsored by Better How you know that's right? Yeah,
this is ah, this is a Blue Apron original. Like I don't know, it's it's I really hope it doesn't catch on. I have to just rely on the fact that most cops aren't very smart and don't have discernible personalities, and so it just kind of seems like a non starter. Yeah, in that way, but I don't know what a what
an embarrassing and and are you wait? Jack is like this is being funded by police departments to make Yeah, they paid three hundred thousand dollars for the Toronto one that was one that like oh god, because the police has the biggest budget, Yeah, the biggest budget, so they can throw in a bunch of money into this like
this like shit idea and yeah yeah run with that. Well, I guess for people that are like yeah, constantly arguing that police budgets like they need every dollar and things are so like it's like, well, this is a clear thing of like, well, what could three hundred thousand dollars do literally anywhere else? Right? Decide creating police podcast that
no one's gonna listen to? Like, how are you going to get people to I'm they're saying something that's like truthful, like which they won't that doesn't sound like absolutely yeah
yeah yeah, I mean. And there's been like New York Times or a New York Times NYPD one, a branch of the New York Times that is all about like it's called break in the Case and it's existed for like a year and a half, but like just nobody knows about it because like I feel I feel like just generally the like podcasting is a place for people to escape from, like the limitations of the mainstream media, and the mainstream media is just like so consistently, like
even like Brooklyn ninety nine, like even like funny shows are like still based on this assumption that cops are the good guys and they're coherent and good in their job and so like. So it makes sense to me that podcasting would be a place that consistently goes in the opposite direction. So I don't think we'll be seeing a bunch of pro police podcasts anymore than I think we'll be seeing an NBC podcast or an NBC like sitcom about how fucked up police are. First, the celebrities
came and I said nothing. Then the reapers came and I said nothing. There what a what a what a gorgeous rich environment that we're that we're thriving in at this time. That's right. Well, Dylan, it's been such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Thank you so much for having me. This has been so much fun. You can follow me um on Instagram at Dylan Adler Underscore on Twitter at dlen Adler six or on TikTok at
Dylan Adler seven. So wow, I know a bunch of Dylan Adlers from like teens from Aspen, Colorado took the Dylan Adler so I to do his like underscore six seven. Shit but yeah, one of the best follows on any social media TikTok and Instagram. It's so funny, the best. Thank you guys so much for having me. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh yes,
so um. My friend Calvin Seabrooks posted a video of himself as Angela Bassett responding to the Angela Bassett did the thing and it was just and it was he was him going like, that was the one time I've heard my name get pronounced correctly, So what's the joke? It was just so it made me laugh out loud so hard. So check out Calvin Seabrooks his video. It is It's brilliant, amazing. Yeah, Jamie, thank you so much
for co hosting this week's pleasure having you back. I really have realized how little I know about the world around me when I'm when I'm not doing this show with you. I feel I feel like I know about this week specifically. There you go a little time. Well, it's been wonderful having you. We really appreciate it. Where can people find you? Follow you, read you all that good stuff? Oh yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus, help Instagram at Jamie Christ's Superstar and
you know, pre order Raw Dog. It's my book about hot dogs. I cannot legally shut up about it for at least three months, so please just please just do it, and someday I'll stop talking about it and you're going to be so excited. I guess the thing I would like to shout out social media wise is an email I received on the first day of March, which is Women's History Month, Right, But according to this email, I
got an email and said happy Salary Month. And it felt aggressive, it felt pointed, It felt like it was yelling at me, and it didn't like my body. And I've just been thinking about it every day since, and I have been sending it to other people. When you know, so anytime someone wants to celebrate women, you can then say aggressively, like well why I did? What about Celery Month?
It's Celery month according to the company that sent me really like emails about their very expensive Celery Juice Happy Salary Month and the yeah, oh my god, what a nightmare. I am going to link off to a couple of Dylan's videos and the footnotes backflip at Universal Studios. Yeah, just so, there's so many great works, so we will we will be linking off to those in the month footnotes. Thank you. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zekeeist. We're at the Daily Zekeeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on a website Daily zekeeist dot com where we post our episode and our footnote, but where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Superproducer Justin is there a song that you think people might enjoy on this month? Yeah? I noticed that Miles tended to recommend songs that were
for you know, cleaning up your house and whatnot. So I stumbled across this song while I was doing just that. This is a Brazilian funk song. I do not speak Brazilian Portuguese. So I'm going to butcher this, but this is Joga oh Boom Boom Tom Tom by mc fiolchi. It's really great that uses a flute sample from a Johann Sebastian Bach song and just flips it and put some really funky like bass and dance rhythms under it.
So you can find this song and the footnotes that's Joga ou boom boom Tom Tom by mc field child. The Daily Zeit Guys is a production of I Heart Radio from more podcast from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever your listener favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning, back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to y'all then Bye bye