Simping 4 Billionaires, Gender BEERnary 04.14.23

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all courtesy a Fighter of the Night Man. He had a whole verse, but it's a little it's a little slow, a little out of my range, but it was beautiful work. A Fighter of the Night Man on the Discord, shout out to you, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host mister Miles Grab. I'm gonna try and improvise a song right now and just bear with me. But um, blood drops on roses and Hitler stashes on kittens, bright copper kettles and SS mittens, brown

paper uniforms like the gesh Stoppo. These are a few of Harlan's favor and things. Okay, you know, I tried, I tried. I was thinking about that earlier and I couldn't improvise it. But you know what, I forgot to actually attribute yesterday's me and Missus Missus Jones aka. That was from l on the Discord. I respect erqu because my mom was a real big plot role fan and for the longest time, that was like the only thing on on the TV. I'm gonna take classes to learn

how to say that. Just hey phrase, hey Hercule, that many Hercule, Hey Poirot, hey poy rot. All right, well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third ye one of our faves anti racism educator, activist, writer, creator of the acclaimed podcast White Homework. It's Tory Williams Doug all right to be here, always good to have you. And you had a child, yeah, And I was just asking you out before. I'm like, how when to self let baby self soothe? Because I'm I'm look, zike yang lit.

Y'all know, we're trying to sleep train. We got eleven hours the night before and we're like, oh shit, we're doing it. Then we went back to about look and people are gonna be like, hey, asshole the fact because I said, and then he only died seven hours and fifteen minutes other night. I know that is good and I'm trying to ye. But then a lot of these books are like, you gotta let him cry. That's the only way they're gonna self sue it through the night.

And he doesn't really do that I'm going to learn about the cold realities of life. Yeah, I mean he's black, Japanese and Jewish. He's already have a fucked up life, you know what I mean. Feel like I'm trying to just make at least this part easy. Yeah, I'm always concerned. I'm like, well, let's spoil him. No, he already did his time. It's in the ancestors, got him, got him covered it. Yeah, right, like, don't don't, don't worry about

that shit. Yeah, my kids are amazing sleepers. I did not do cry it out and they woke up about every two hours right forever for like years. Right. Yeah, we had a we had a lot of we had a lot of sleep struggles and they are incredible sleepers now.

So oh yeah, okay, there's there's that anecdote. I don't know, I don't know, I mean act, but yeah, Jack you we I mean, I forget, Like my wife will be like, you remember how how bad it was right now with our seconds, and I'm like, I don't remember much of the I'll go back and look at videos that I took of me like playing with them and just have no recollection. It was like the the sleep deprivation. Oh

I don't. I don't think the second I don't think we learned enough from the first one for the second one to be smooth sailing. So I don't. I wouldn't listen to anything that I But also it was also different different. You also have that like evolutionary neuralizer thing where it's like you forgot all the bad ship to keep mine was effect right, right, right? I mean I remember, I mean I remember your second was born when this show, when we were doing this show. Yeah, and I could definitely,

I remember. We could chart the levels of tired, not first for sure, you would like, but missing words, missing entire sentences. This is like your This is like your baby demon child, right, who like comes and pounds on your door just like that, and monsters. He's such a sweet kid and so wonderful during waking hours, but he has bush sleep time and then but he he just

wants to be cuddled. Where he's at an age where it's like we're like, he can't be sleeping in our bed every night, and so we just trained that out of him. But you know, sometimes I'll lay next to them to let him get to sleep, and he will put his foot on me like a burglar alone, Like he can if I start moving. He was like yeah, he's like where are you going? Yeah, so yeah, and

then he will wake up the older one. But the older one is a great sleeper at this point, he's just been through the ship right with the younger one that now he's just like immune to it. It's like a or a fire alarm beep. That's just you know, completely block it out. You block it out. Yeah, yeah, that's real. I have not though, But he's doing great.

He's doing great, and it's it gets in my experience, it just gets better and better parenting, and maybe not when they're teenagers, but it really just gets more and more fun ye experience. So yeah, yeah, I mean now that I'm even getting like smiles, that I can connect to something, I like, it's a whole new day. I fucking wrapped the first maybe five tracks of the Clips album Lord Willing to him yesterday when I was making food.

I just put him in the chair and I'm just like, as if what he said, he's a fan of your rapping, he loves rapping, he loves that, he loves I think it's just like I'm a very facially expressive person, so that just it doesn't matter what I'm saying. And I'm like, did you hear me kill that whole big pun verse in Twins? I was like, did you know how hardest to go dead in the middle of little literally little? Did we know that? We rid us a little and

he's like, it's oh shit. He falls out the high chair, Oh shit, puts his hand on her Majesty's shoulders. He's like, real fucking hip hop over here. Amazing. All right, well, Tory, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners some of the important things we're talking about. Big news. Newpier for assholes just dropped, ultra right, ultra right. Dear, the the commercial has been making the rounds. It's like the

Dollar Shave Club, but racism. Yeah, it seems to be the what he was going for. Tim Scott is running for president. Oh Tim, I've put together the few the few details I can glean about that, the latest Harlan Crow defense, the Atlantic article by the Harvard gred These are the few details I can glean without subscribing to the Atlantic. So we'll talk about that all of that plenty more. But first, Tory, we like to task our guests,

what is something from your search history? Let's see, So I have been like on this terror on Instagram in the past week or so talking about poverty and like the impacts of poverty. So I've been doing all this Google searching slash pub med situation about impacts of poverty on like your nervous system and your ability to self regulate, because it's not good. And I keep hearing people say and like, obviously this is just like right wing talking points.

It's like, oh God, like like if they were just stop being so fucking stupid and reckless and like irrational, then they wouldn't be poor. And it's like they're right exactly exactly. It's like, no, that's how they're acting because they're in poverty. Like your nervous system doesn't cope well with constant ongoing stress trying to figure out like do I buy bus fare home or do I buy lunch? Like or is this the day I get shot and killed?

Exactly exactly. A stat like that, especially with black and brown communities, like the number of people who like actually fear for their life ending in gun violence, like on a daily basis is an obscenely high number compared to like white people in America. Yeah, and he's like, try living with that on your fucking mind. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so change I think. I don't know, but we even saw it, right, Like even with like Rick Scott, who's like a center, He's like, my friend died in the

Louisville bank shooting. Oh my god, Yeah, I have nothing to say about gun control, and it's like, what for what? Why did you even bring that up? He wants people to feel sad. I know we were talking about that on the trending episode. We're like, oh, what kind of weird points do you think you score by being by saying like I have a personal connection to this and that's why I will still do fuck all about the situation.

That's how much I love the Second Amendment. I think is the oh my god, right, like I don't know the real list of them all. I'm the realist patriot of them all. My friend just got murked. I'm still good up here? Did you hear that? In all right? Did you hear that? Okay? Yeah? Still make them out to Senator Rick Scott for reelection campaign. Thank you. That's right, what is something you think is overrated? Tory? I think

policing people's joy is really overrated. I think that, yeah, try trying to get people to be some sort of a way about the things that they enjoy, things that don't hurt other people and like don't cause harm to the community. I'm just like, why I don't. I don't get it. I love saying like I love seeing like

kids after school, like messing around with each other. Is they're like walking home, Like I just love seeing people have fun and like, you know, we're walking past the park and there's like all of these elders hanging out and like they're playing cards or whatever. Like I love that shit. And it's really interesting to me how many people get upset seeing, especially people of color, experiencing any

kind of joy at all. Like it's just it's just like emotionally upsetting to a lot of white people that specifically. But then it's like it's the same thing with like gender expression, right, It's like, well you have to eat, just like there's two there's two genders, and it's like, well, but who fucking cares? Like who cares? Why? Like why is this taking up more emotional energy? Right, how do you feel well, like I'm I'm this or that? Okay?

Do you right? Exactly exactly? Like why are you putting it on everybody else to be like like just you're stressing yourself out for no reason by trying to like make little kids look like you have to look like a boy or you have to look like a girl. There's like no one between mean, like why would you why are you expending emotional energy on that ship? Like

just go live your life. When I was a kid, I thought I was a fucking spider, you know what I mean, Like just let let kids fucking like do them? Do you just fucking do you? That's it's a very hard thing. I wish I wish that was in the Bible. I know Jesus, I mean, they would probably find a way to be Like I think he said, do you like to groom children? Is what he was trying to That was a sent that Jesus was trying to actually finish because I know, like it please just let people

do their thing. Yeah, policing, did you see something recently that like made you feel that way? I mean, mostly it's like the anti trans bills and and just the idea of like everything has to be this sis hit whatever heteronormative relationships and like they're literally trying to make that the law. Yeah no, seriously, like why this doesn't this literally doesn't affect you. And they're like, no, being trans is contagious, Like if we let kids be trans

in school, then like my kid's gonna catch it. It's like the right, is that literally not how it works? Oh well that's what my dad always said, and I've never bothered to examine that, so I'm just gonna keep perpetuating that. Yeah. Yeah, so that was that was really what it has been driving that for me. Also, like microdocing stuff like that. I'm like, if somebody's being safe, like who fucking cares if they're having a good time like one night or one weekend with their friends, Like, yeah,

you're seeing people like a microdocing backlash. Um. I mean, well, okay, so Oregon decriminalize everything, which is really fucking cool, And then everybody was like crime is skyrocketing, like there's all these homeless people and whatever. I'm like, you like, there's there's there's no correlation here. There was no correlation here

at all, Right, Yeah, it's not because of the unaffordable housing. Yeah, it's right exactly, It's it's because of the mushrooms and so yeah, I'm just I've been I've been seeing I've

been seeing some of that. The other thing is like there there people have been doing these like street races and poland, which is not I understand it's like not safe, but I'm like I'm trying to be like, well, give them a place to do it, like just block off an intersection or whatever the fuck they want somewhere right, And it's like the track you can give them. There is a fucking racetrack here. Like give them some space

to like blow off steam. Like that's really important and literally goes back to this idea of like poverty and self regulation. Like if people don't have the space to blow off steam, they are going to do bad shit. So just like let them do something that is not going to hurt anyone in a space where they're not going to cause more harm and like be like get

over yourself, right, or it's like the same. I see that all the time with like in Philly or Baltimore, like especially with kids on like a TVs and dirt bikes and stuff like in the street. Just doing their thing, you know, having fun, and they're like they're doing wheelies everywhere, and a lot of the people in the community like, well, they need a space. This is what they like to do,

and this is the space we have. Yeah, and we live here, So is there another place they can do that, because the alternative is them to really be doing some other shit that is probably not great. If they want to blow steam off by being on a bike or whatever. Let's figure out a way to embrace that for people. And I get that, like again narrowly right, if could the danger that it presents on like a clouded street

or whatever. So if that's the case, don't just try and be like, well y'all not doing that ever again, you know, just figure out how to redirect that energy in a way that makes sense. But yet, to your point, it's not always where they're like, well I don't understand that. So it's illegal. Yeah, yeah, and it's but it's it's just it's really interesting because it's like, don't have sex, don't do drugs, don't drink. And I'm not saying that like kids should be drinking or having sex or doing drugs.

I'm not saying that, but there's like something don't have fun, Like every we're just gonna make everything illegal, and then all of a sudden, like sweet, we have this whole population of workers who we get to control now, I guess because everything is illegal. Also based on movies about the nineteen fifties, which is the period that they're supposed to, like, I feel like drag racing in the La River basin was like one of two things that people did people.

It was that and singing due up around a trash camp fire, only two things that you were allowed to do. Oh man, But that I mean that brings up a really good point, like cruising is illegal, yeah, because there's no where you can do that, and it's just like okay, you just really don't want people to exist, like you want them to be as miserable as possible or show their pride off in their rides, you know what I mean.

Because Crenshaw, like in La that used to be the fucking spot like on Sundays and now the fuck like you know, we saw it change all the times, like no fucking cruising ever, right, yeah, and those are like I remember going with like my family to go see like I would look at these cars and shit, and yeah, there might be some unsavory figures there, but at most of the time people respected the fact that everybody was there wanting to show off their rides and be and

have community or whatever. But yeah, but community is not profitable. The community is not profitable. Rights is not profitable. Loneliness

is profitable because especially now with phones. That is the one complained about phones that I think is accurate, is that it's given them a new way to monetize loneliness, right, And I guess it goes to like, you know, I guess it's kind of like a third like the discussion of like third places or whatever, you know, like you have those social environments or at the very least, like now, I feel like in America the only place you can congregate is somewhere that is tied to commerce. Yeah, yeah,

you know what I mean. Like we don't necessarily have the like we don't have the same parksist or at least not in LA. There's a lot of places where it's not as easy to just like hang out somewhere unless you are there to spend money for a specific reason. Right, What is something Tori that you think is underrated? I

think kids are underrated not having kids. Having kids is not Like I really don't like it when people are like, oh, you gotta have kids, you're going to be unfulfilled, or you're just gonna be really lonely, or it was gonna take care of you when you're old. Like I'm not here for any of that bullshit. I just mean, like, kids,

like a genre of humans, are really fucking cool. And I wish that like more people understood, you know, like just even the basics of like human brain development, because it's like once you get that, it's like, oh, like this is this is a whole last person here, and like everything that I can do to like invest in them as a as a person, just even just some like conversation and hanging out and like interacting that like all that stuff matters, right because it's actually isn't that

hard to support kids, and data shows like having one adult that you feel like is in your corner makes all of the difference when you're growing up, you know, and like that that carries over into adulthood. And so yeah, I mean I just think kids as people are are underrated. Again, this is not like it go make babies, you know, but if somebody. If somebody has a baby and like wants me to babysit, Miles, I totally will come down. Come down, Yeah, come to come through, come through babies

and kids. I mean next week, next week, the guy's child will be in the studio, So hold on those episodes because yeah, her majesty at work. My mom is in Japan, and I was saying, I was like, I could maybe find childcare, but I really want to embrace trying to be a parent. And you got start their social profile too. You gotta make sure that they start to get their voice out there exactly so you will

hear little coups in the background. And I'm just want to warn y'all listeners for next week please don't be you know, bothered by that, because again, kids are dull, Okay, Yeah, they're listening to argue that somebody so that you can kind of get used to the sounds next year and you are kids are Yeah, kids are truly the best. My son asked me this morning how he gets ideas in his head that nobody told him. Hell, yeah, I don't know. That is such an interesting way to just

like articulate that. Yeah, he was like, because like sometimes I just like make up stuff at school, like I got I was telling people that the color blue is darker than the color green, and I was like, I don't know that that's true, but why not broadly? But I'm sure like on a color wheel, They're like, I mean there there is more black and blue. I don't

know whatever, but isn't it Isn't it a primary? But I don't even know if I was like that, it's called creativity, yeah, like yeah, yeah, but that's not what I'm looking for. That's not the answer he was looking for. He wanted like some kind of Greek thing about genus and like he's like, well, the Greeks, you should say someone had a genius rather than someone was a genius, and that in fact they would be visited by this other entity that would give them ideas. Is that what

made you like that? You? Yeah, that's probably more what he was looking for. Yeah, that is actually an obsession that kids go through or like that some kids have. It's in the category of you know, sharks, dinosaurs, Greek mythology. That's the one I'm most interested in. It most surprised by Alloway's mind with all this shit. I like read freshman year of college. Just hit him with those facts. Now it's like, you know it hit him with some Alan Watts type shit too, been like, yeah, do you

think we're special on this? David Hume would say that you don't have any ideas. It's called empiricism. My dad would always hit me with shit like that. So I was a very weird kid, like early on in school and teachers were like, why are you saying that to the other kids. I'm like, why did you bring a condom to school? I'm like, because I went to the

aid's walk and they were handing them out. Oh that's And my dad wasn't gonna, like, you know, try and sugarcoat anything very much, explained like the AIDS epidemic to me and what condoms were. And I was in kindergarten, i remember, and then I went to school and I talked about it and they got so mad. They're like and they were like, what are you telling your son? And my dad was like, the about the world, the communities that he like, he interacts with, and to know

about that and that shouldn't be something obscured. Yeah, anyway, my kid wants to do a Greek mythology Lego set where he wants Lego to make a Lego set that is all the Greek gods. Yeah, that's that, yeah, because that's what he's advocating for right now. So yeah, okay, Lego, you heard us, your cowards over in Denmark tired of this Danish supremacy man. But I do think that's one of those things that is I think we put a call out like early on for listeners to like tell

us what their weird obsession was when their kid. Mine was sharks and miles wos yours you had, you had a bunch of them. I feeling dinosaurs the Civil War year, but Greek was the one, like surprise, you know, my kid was like trains and then sharks and fish and now Star Wars. But a bunch of people hit us with the oh, it was actually Greek mythology. I was obsessed.

My child was a Napoleon Bonaparte for like over a year, so interesting, Napoleon everything, And like my partner tries to like kind of be like, well, you know, Napoleon was technically like a dictator, and he's like, no, he was just a populist and he decided to take over things and like they're having this coversation like what is happening right now? Like, yeah, can you take take a trip to the Garden of Evil? I think damn it? Or he's like, mother, can you take me to Corsica? Yeah?

Literally no, He's like days, he's like if I He's like, if I become a He's like, if I become a Swiss politician, do you think that I could get into the UN and like take over Western Europe? Like what is your child? Sir? Yeah? Sure, why not do it? Do it? He's like he's like practicing French on due lingo every single day, Like he's that like a one hundred day street. He's like committed to this, this to

becoming Napoleon. Well, I'm like doing kind of like a reverse colonization because he's like I'm gonna give all of the colonies back to all of the all the people, and then I'm going to take over Europe. I'm like, oh, I's gonna do it. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I can't really argue with this logic. Child's timeline. Do they have a Napoleonic lego set like the Napoleon Oh? I don't

think so. I don't think so, but you can. You can submit ideas so they to lego's ideas and if you get like ten thousand votes, I think they'll like make the set. Why. Yeah, it's smart, a smart way to do it. Yeah. Yeah, Napoleon. Hollywood has been sitting on a Napoleon movie forever, like they you know, like Kubrick was supposed to make a Napoleon movie. They just

keep putting it. Oh, keep kicking kicking, okay, yeah, and then the Greek myth thing I guess Percy Jackson was was that but yeah, I don't know my kids, but it was more but that's more of a kids movie. Yeah. Yeah. Would a Napoleon lego figure be smaller than the other lego if it was historically accurate? Well, my child would say that he actually wasn't that short for the time you can get It's like funny like on Etsy people are selling Napoleon legos like they're like, hey, we got custed.

We know you like that Napoleon with your money right now? Can you send me that link so I can buy that for my kid. I was already thinking. I was like, oh, let me see if I can find something for your chard. I'm in dad mode y'all great if you if you have the time to like wait for you know, a little longer. But like that's where my wife got a great spider Man Halloween cost him on it. Like they will, they will customize. That's there's some great artists on there

doing good work. Oh I love this. This is amazing. Of course. Look I'm always looking out for the children. Yeah, DZ is for the children. As they say, all right, well the right has a new Etsy project coming to us that well we'll talk about it's a new beer just for assholes. Well when you said that, I thought you meant like for like for you to boof for your asshole. And I was like and I was like, oh this story, no, no, no, no other than well,

I mean you know Brett would be into that. Brett, Yeah, haven on beach chugging, dude, bea chug All right, we'll be right back and we're back. And Seth Weathers is a name that I now know that I didn't know, didn't have to know. So this is a GOP strategist. I don't know how official that designation is. Conservative Dad. Seth Weathers just launched a beer specifically market marketed to transphobes ultra right beer, and he claims it's the beer

that hasn't been infected by the woke mind virus. It starts out with Weathers complaining about trans people using public restrooms, and then it cuts to him exiting the men's room. Yeah, just listen to this, because this whole thing's like, I make beer for people that know what bathroom they like. Really, yeah, that's the hook point, and just listen to this absolute drivel from Seth Myers or whatever. That's why I created

Conservative Dad's ultra right woke free beer. As conservatives, we're constantly getting hit in the face left and right by the woke mind virus. Oh, if you know what, you know what beer should be drinking. Stop giving money to woke corporations, hate our values, and to the rescue woke corporations. Say that. Okay anyway, So if you're really angry at aluminum cans, you like to wear backwards trucker hats, and you haven't seen your kids in six years, I think

this is beer for you. Yeah. He smashes a can of bud Light with a baseball bat on a te t ball. You know, the most macho thing an adult man can do is play tea ball in a park that is completely empty, again because he has alienated himself from regular society because he's so angry at a beer can because he knows what bathroom to use. Yeah, sure, sure, these people know they're being drifted, Like they can't. I just refuse to believe they're that stupid to I don't

don't know they're being drifted. Let's pump the brakes on calling it a grift because this beer, which no doubt tastes wonderful, they're charging twenty dollars for a six pack. It has a lower AVV than smearknoff ice, it has a lower ABV than bud Light. It's basically water. So it's it's it's it's it's Utah beer. Yeah, it's like the right, Yeah, okay, that's only a very technically beer because you're I mean, I feel like the other like the hyper masculine attack would be like Leach, you're a

low ABV beer, you snowflake. But again, whatever his operation he's doing to like make these beers very quickly, it probably you're not able to be I guess take your pick of the litter of all the beers. Out there. But yeah, that twenty dollars for a six pack is like not even. I can't even. I have a feeling that this is just part of he's got something else. He's gonna use this to like raise his stock in the fucking right wing outrageous sphere. You know, he's got

lots of other things he's got does uh. He also sold a T shirt with a QR code on it. It says, scan my vaccine passport the t shirt does you scan the QR code? And then it takes you to a website that is called freedom speaks Up dot com and it, oh, no, sorry that freedom speaks Up dot com is where you can buy the and I'm guessing our audience is not going to be a fan.

And then it takes you to a website on bring ammo dot com that is just a picture, a photograph that he took of the US Constitution my vaccine passport, finger pointing down to the US Constitution. Then siren, I am not a sheep, siren. The US Constitution is the only document I will ever need to travel freely in the US. Okay, not true, not daddy sovereign. I don't need a driver's license so my driver's license is the

Constitution of States. Learn the difference between driving and traveling. Okay, that's what I'm gonna tell you, officer, where's your where's your supervisor? Because I'm not driving, I'm traveling. Read the US Constitution. Why are you breaking my window? Why are these people? Man? I love? I mean who I really want to know what his like family situation is, Like if you got this kind of time when you're like,

you know what I'm gonna do? Got an ultra right beer? Yeah, that is going to maybe just get me sued or

something like that. And people, God, I feel like we like for how much we kind of stay on top of like the outrage culture war stuff Jack, we should have been able to get ahead of this guy and started grifting already and being like, oh yeah, try this ultra like anti woke beer and then find print all the proceeds go to like the Trevor like the Trevor Project, you know what I mean, like that kind of thing.

And he seeple have too much money, the fact that like Trump can raise us like millions of dollars because he starts crying for a minute after like having to go into a meeting. It's like this, these people have too much money. I just I fully support I would like I want to do. I want to do the like full blown the Maga crowd with them for the left, you know what I mean, like literally, you know, like with with you know, I feel like I have a

better marketing eye than this fucking guy. And you market something and then you just completely own them when they buy your ship, like here's the alternative that Nike, bro, And then you're like you just gave all your money to these candidates, Thank you so much. Oh kay, But like Nike's Nike's like part of the fucking problem, right, Like they use like black and brown people's athletic accomplishments, and then like Phil Knight is just like laughing his way all the way to the RNC to like write

a fucking check. Yeah it's not I mean, you know, but like I don't know, it's like it's it's woke to have that trans model or something, even though the dudes giving your money to the fucking Republican Party. Yeah, it's never. That's what's so funny is they're never like staying on top of where they stand on all the issues, which is like you know, we give our money to like a lot of these creeps that you love. Right, we just do this to like appear like we're a

like a sane company to the public. Right. Well, yeah, the outrage continues, the outrage. I missed this story mostly, Like I mean, it's mainly that bud Light employed a trans influencer. Yeah, and that that's it, right, that's it. Yeah, stay away from our kids will corporate. So it's just that they would even market like with a trans person is yeah, wow, Yeah, it's it's fine. They take their kids to church every Sunday, not not nobody grooming anybody there.

The other thing is too like we we actually talked about this on one of the past episodes, like have you not seen bud Lights like pride campaigns every year? Right? What it seems like they were waiting for the right thing to do. They know what do they know? What the t is? An lgb q t lg lgb qt yeah, lgbt q. I'm sorry, do you know what I mean? I'm sorry Liga bigga tigo like that dude off TikTok, now you know what I mean? Like, because then did you see, oh Jack, I don't think you missed it.

There was one bust add that bud Light did that said, like during Pride, it said lgbt Q and it said, let's get beers tonight queens. Yes? Is that real? Yes? Yes, I mean and like that also see like ought to be set. That's amazing night queens. Satire is so dead, it's being just destroyed by like much better satire than

reality everything. So the new pastime too is like Kevin Sorbo on Twitter just tweeting is like, oh, bud Light, the Anheuser Bush just lost like seven billion dollars in market cap or whatever, and they're like, yeah, they're losing. It's like asshole. They own every beer you drink basically, yeah, they're all owned by the same company. They're like three companies.

What the beers that you're switching to are the same exact You have a very high probability that, like if without being too like you know, they're putting too much scrutiny into your beer, that you are just giving Anheiser

Busch in Bev your money again. But anyway, it's for another discussion about and if this does permanently dent bud Lights sales, I would have to assume that that has more to do with the fact that people these people had never tried a beer besides bud Light to this point, and they're now trying like their first non bud Light beer and they're like, wait, so beer can like have taste to it? That? Yeah, but that that like that three pack of Tall Boys, that's like a state of

like LA construction workers. Right, you know what I mean, Like it ain't going anywhere. But okay, you know, do you do you? All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk to Tim Scott, we'll talk some other news, and we're back, and South Carolina Senator Tim Scott has announced that he is running for president. Yeah,

not from his own self loathing. Somehow I thought he would be running from that, but no, he's trying to run towards the White House without knowing anything about him. You just you already know he has no chance, you know what I mean. That's what's so funny about this to me, Like, you know, here's the future of like the Republican Party as I see it. If you don't actually come for Trump's ass and be able to beat him at his own game, you will not do shit,

that's just where energetically, that's just where it's at. That's the only thing I think that's gonna move the needle for somebody's gonna be like, nah, this guy sucks. He's actually not far right enough, and I'll own you in a debate or whatever. Everyone's like, you know, everyone is very They're deferential to Trump, and that's truly at their own peril. Right now, Tim Scott isn't even polling in the double digits in his own fucking state of South Carolina.

Trump is like ahead of the field by twenty points, and Ronda Santis is like, you know, back another flight. I think, oh yeah, he's He's ahead of de Santis by twenty points. So a lot of people are like, what is the point of this? And his campaign launch video, if you saw it, it's truly one of the saddest

things I've seen for starters. He fundamentally, I think, has no idea what the Civil War represents because he filmed it at fucking Fort Sumter, Okay, one of the place where you know, white supremacist s sessionists were like, yeah, let's fucking go after this government facility and just kick off the Civil War and he talks about how he will never back down, but like many history off are like you know, like Sumter was never taken by the Union, like once they took it, it was only abandoned after

the fact. So like, so, how what are the sides? Who exactly are you are? Who are the Confederates? Because the modern day GOP, like you know, the conservatives of like that time, they were not about equality. If my recollection holds correctly about the Civil War, I thought there were just about states, right smiles than that, Yeah, it was it was about commerce, was about commerce. Just it's

only about commerce. I know some people have like tweeted at me, They're like, well, it was also about commerce. I'm like, that's not okay, the commerce of what goods? Yeah, which goods in particular? Was it your king by the

name of cotton? But anyway, like they like based on the images though that like suddenly he's like, you know, the America's gon divided, and like we're having to stand tall against people that would rather bring the country down their flashing images of Bernie AOC, Elizabeth Warren and Biden, And I think he's trying to say that they are the bad guys because that whole thing of like you know, Lincoln was a Republican and then just act like there's

no other context that that would be meaningful to this like depiction. So you know, good luck to that man. It's kind of like a tragic comedy, I think at this point. Yeah, like his whole run because he clearly has no idea what's going on, even like with his own base, and that like the GOP's constant messaging and like of racism and fearmongering has turned them into a group that is incapable of understanding policy. They don't even

care well fuck policy, they only know blood. Yeah, and like his whole thing's like I want to get to brass tex So, Like, bro, they're gonna eat you alive. M did you know his signature His signature piece of legislation is it's urban restoration. It's literally giving tax breaks to developers to do gentrification. Like that is that man's like on his fucking website. That is his signature piece

of legislation. I'm pretty sure passed under Trump. But anyway, right, I mean remember too when he tried to enter like there was his like policing bill too that they're like, hey, in the summer twenty twenty, like, hey, you're our black senator, you should introduce this bill of incremental Change and we'll

treat it as revolutionary. And you know, he got his little applause and things like that, but it's just like it feels like this like a scene in a movie where like a dorky kid wants to ask the most popular girl to prom even though she's totally out of his league and a violent racist. Like we're as the audience, you like, we all know the outcome. Yeah, he's still like walking up with his like like box of Russell Stover's chocolates and be like, um, callie, you know what

I mean. And it's just like no, man, no, full, get the fuck away. She's raised. What the fuck you trying to do? Man? Leave her alone? Leave that shit alone. So yeah, there's also he already had he had an opportunity to act like a serious candidate too, when he was asked about you know, abortion, because that's a that's a big deal right now, and it's probably it's it's proven to be a losing fucking policy platform, policy point

for the Republicans. And I'll play this clip for you where he's asked about abortion, and I just want to warn you he has a pretty good answer. Who the fuck am I kidding? He absolutely fucked the bed with his answer about abortion. Try and even decipher what he even means with this answer. When he's asked about where he's at on abortion. Yes, sir, would you support a federal ban on abortions? I would suddenly say that the fact that it matters when you look at the issue

of abortion. One of the challenge that we have. We continue to go to the most restrictive conversations without broadening the scope and thinking I'm one hundred percent pro life. I never walk away from that. But the truth of the matter is that when you look at the issues on abortion, I start with the very important conversation I had in a banking hearing when I was sitting in my office and listening to the Janet yell In, the Secretary of the Treasury talk about increasing the labor force

participation rate for African American women by having abortions. I think we're just having the wrong conversation. Oh my fucking guy, my man, my man, wow wow wow wow. So so what is oh my god, well, I mean to me, this this this gets right up there with the domestic supply of infants launching. Oh yeah, like this is this is the actual conversation we're having, is like should we keep black women in the labor force or should we forced them to have children so that we have more

bodies for the jails? Like, right, what are you even talking about? Man? And that's where my mind went through a comm I'm looking I look at abortion through a commerce lens, right, or committee meeting that I was in. Yeah, like ay, but again, you know, go ahead man, Like this is so that's why it's so funny to watch them deal with this like plutonium rod of the abortion issue.

They don't know, like to just drop it and throw it as far away from them as possible, and like, I think it's melting my skin because I'm holding it's still like fuck off. But anyway, this is this is what they got. Well, speaking of what they got, they got they got billionaires on their side. Yeah. And so we we mentioned in passing past couple of days that The Atlantic was entering the fray with the Wall Street Journal with a column from somebody being like, you guys,

what are you talking about? Harlan Crowe is totally normal Nazi paraphernalia collector doesn't mean he's a Nazi. The So this is the Atlantic, you know, presumably considered to be like center left journalistic institution, you know, even though the center what is considered to be the center left and

the United States is actually far right, far right. But I just want to read how the article opens, because this it just it's an interesting It's by somebody named Graham Wood or Graham would never seen Graham spelled this way for English. For English, Gray Jr. Aemy would so.

First sentence. I've never met Harlan Crowe, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's billionaire best friend, but I have peered through the fence surrounding his estate late at night, and once I went inside and snooped around for a couple hours.

Last year, Crowe and his wife Kathy put on an event to honor two Dallas humanitarians, and I was invited with about one hundred others for cocktails and canopies in the Crow's cavernous library, a Texas scale wood panel room with walk in fireplace and a collection of art and memorabilia worthy of a bond villain. So that's an interesting start. And you might suspect that him snooping outside of this compound that contains Nazi memorabilia was like him as a

journalist being like, there's something up with this guy. There's just like something that doesn't scan. He's always like hanging out with these really influential right wing dignitaries and lead and Supreme Court justices, and like so I'm I've hung out, I've like kind of kept my eye. But it turns out that it's like actually aspirational and he just like was hanging out there because he wants to like get invited in, and like was excited because he goes on

to just be like he's a total sweetheart. Essentially. It's that last paragraph of it that's really fucking wild of like where you kind of have half of the quote from the last paragraph. Yeah, it's simply isn't possible to be a Nazi crypto or otherwise and simultaneously being Abe Lincoln and Liz Cheney fanboy. Let alone to conceal from your dearest confidence among them black and Jewish people, your

preference for the master race, he wrote. Then he says that he him if he were ever to become a billionaire, he would buy one of those gold dinars, the official currency minted by the Islamic State, and that was like his beat, like as a journalist was he was covering that a lot. So I think he was trying to like put this thing of like, Okay, this is how

this is. You know, I'm into like, I covered some pretty awful stuff, and I'm kind of maybe with like a coin, I guess, just to like for frenzies, right, And then he says, some strangers might suppose that because I own such a repugnant item, I must have secretly pledged my soul to Abu Bakar al Baghdadi. But my friends would know otherwise because they are not morons. Ah. Yes, So it's just that like kind of dismissive Ivy League Harvard bullshit where it's just like everybody who says this

is dumb. If you say someone's Hitler or into Nazis because they have a signed copy of mine, COUMF, You're just dumb and you're not as cultured as I am. Excuse me while I finished stuffing my face with Canopez. There's there's also an older article the in the Atlantic, because he's written for the Atlantic for a while talking about being a high school class of Richard Spencer. Oh,

don't worry, he's not a fan of Richard Spencer. But that article opens with him bragging about being at a Christmas party bash with Richard Spencer for Reason Magazine, the libertarian publication, and he's not like and I infiltrated this. It's like, yeah, I got to go to this cool Christmas party with Reason Magazine, a libertarian publication. But I don't know, I like, I'm sure there's a world where Harlan Crowe is just doesn't have an ideological thought in

his head that he's aware of, you know. And it's just like Tackley collecting these things based on the fact that they make the people around him oh and ah, and you know they seem important, and then just like throwing them all up next to each other with no context, like it's a TGI Fridays. But it's like the first of all, the fact that like his audience is like, ooh my god, like look how nice the cutlery and

napkin wear of the Nazis were is weird. And also it's just revealing that like this Harvard grat, like this this person who's supposed to be at the center of like mainstream media like dives in and like, you know, is giving the benefit of the doubt to this billionaire, right, you know what, would not do would not even think to do the same thing with somebody who's murdered by the police, for instance, you know so, But when it comes to the most powerful people in the country, they

rush in to be like, you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt. He's just into the stuff because it's cool. It's the other thing that he says, hold on, I gotta fucking stupid things paywald and I'm gonna give him my fucking money. I know. That's that's what makes this all so difficult. There's there's this one part where he basically says like he's saying like if I, if I, if I wanted to unburden myself of the billions of dollars of inherited wealth, I too might invest in curious

historical pieces. He leaves is the term like unburdened myself of billions of dollars, And you're like, oh, the burden of having What else are you're gonna do but buy Nazi shit? When you got billions of dollars, please y'all come to see look at the point, and he hangs out with Jewish people and black people. He can't be into the master race. And again I'm not even saying like it's it's a nailed on thing. I'm like, sure,

maybe he has some weird quirk about it. But I'll tell you this, if I had billions of dollars, I'm not buying Nazi shit, Okay, I'm buying weird fucking I don't even know what. I don't even have the I have the mind, like the imagination to put myself there, like what would I buy? But it feels like like that's what myself interesting is that, like this person who writes for The Atlantic supposedly center left, like widely regarded.

If you asked anybody who like writes to the New York Times to be like that place is center left or you know, sure, Like this is a person who peers through the gates of a billionaire's home at night and fantasizes about the weird murder paraphernalia he would buy when he becomes a billionaire, right, Like, that's who is at the center of the mainstream media. The center, Yeah, the mainstream media. Well look again, it's it's all about

the status quo at the end of the day. And to like begin a real earnest discussion of like this is this is why everything so fucked up might be a bridge too far, and it's better to just be like is it that bad to have a ton of money? And yeah, you're into weird historical stuff, right, nothing to see here, Okay, keep it moving. I personally think it's fucking weird to collect Nazi stuff. I'm going on the record, Yeah,

you're not gonna find me collecting that shit. If anything, I'd be like I'd buy like a weird I'd buy so much weird sports crap probably, you know, like meaningless shit, like a fucking ticket from like Arsenal match of like yester Year for nothing, you know what I mean. Yeah,

it's just like I don't know like that. I even the thought of like Nazi memorbill just freaks me out, Like I don't want to fucking even Like there's this guy who was a friend of a friend who I remember, like like something came to lighting it, like, yeah, I found out this guy collects like a bunch of Nazi stuff. Yeah, And they're like they're then and I met them, They're like they're such Wait that guy he's so nice. He's like yeah, he's kind of like really into that stuff.

And I'm like, it's never been I have to I don't know anybody who that, but I gotta think it's an every good time. But it's just interesting to think about the audience of this stuff that has driven him to continue to keep a bunch of like Nazi Dinner were on display, a painting by Hitler next to a painting by Norman Rockwell and a painting by George Bush, who he think George W. Bush, who he thinks is a hero, presumably based on his feelings about Lynne Cheney.

He like the audience for that, Like the feedback that he's getting is like, whoa cool And that makes total sense because like there was a fascist coup like around the time that Hitler was rising to power in the United States by the richest people to try and like have a fascist overthrow of the US government, and like that that hasn't gone away, Like those are still the richest people in the country. Sure, they're still the most

powerful people. It's just they've become more and more powerful, and it's becoming like invisible because they're the ones who are like writing for the fucking Atlantic. So it's just like that becomes a thing that we just accept and get like chided and called morons for thinking is fucking weird, you know, it's that's what a rhetorically powerful way to end that defense of like, but my friends would know otherwise, and that's why they're my friends because they are not morons.

So again, that's what's so funny. He's like you for all this like fucking posturing and bloviating you're doing in this piece, you just end it. You're basically the whole thrust of the pieces. Y'all are just morons because y'all don't know him. Yeah, that's not really a good defense if you're you're actually trying to assuage people's concerns about

this fucking guy. I feel like the well he has black and Jewish friends is kind of like doing a lot of work, because I think once you get to the point of like, I, you know, my black friends don't care that I have like Hitler shit sitting around, It's like, yeah, because all you any of you want, all of any of your friends want is like the

accumulation of power, like nobody cares. And to me, it's like that's like a power play, right that you have like Hitler shit up and it doesn't it doesn't matter,

and I'm not trying to hide it. And it's not like, oh, I have this little closet over here behind a bookshelf that I put all my Hitler stuff in because I don't want anybody to see it when I'm throwing my party, Like he has it out because he's like making a statement about the fact that like social norms don't apply to him, and that's why we are being called idiots for going like what what is going on? Like why would you have this shit in like out and public

and something that you're proud of. And it's like they really billionaires, you know, they are the law like legally and socially and all of the other ways. Like whatever they do is fine because no one can touch them.

And I think that, Yeah, it's just like when you're talking about people who are trying to accumulate power, like they have more in common with each other than like they do with any of us or anybody else who's like part of who might otherwise be like part of your like socioeconomic or racial or ethnic group right where it's like I don't see race, I just see sadistic plutocrats. Right, that's it. That's all we are. We've distilled it all down to our one common thing and that's that. Yeah.

And they have what they drive and work in one of the biggest into trees in the United States that is invisible to everybody except them and the people who work for them, which is like the protection of private wealth. Yeah, like just finding different ways to invest their billions and billions and billions of Jack, No, unburdening them billions of inherited Well, I didn't even want this shit, jack. That's how this writer uses his imagination, is sitting around thinking

about what he would do to unburden himself. Did he see see Harlan Crowe on this like when it got published and he's like, you see that as the next part you're back? Yeah, exactly, I got you, fam, I got you. Could you lift the restraining order? Now that I've written this, I promise I'll stop looking through the gates. I want those canapes. I'm sorry. Cannapais, cannapaise, I'm sorry. I'm I'm working on that. I want to be like you,

a cultured person. Oh my gosh. This also for me really goes back to all the day that shows like more money you have, the less empathy you have. Yeah, Like they're so disconnected from reality and like other people being people. And I mean, I assume I don't think that like Clarence Thomas is rich rich, like this Harlan Crowe asshole, but the power thing still fucks with your

head and like folks, with your ability to empathize. Yeah, and I think that like both of them are just like very clear examples of yeah, what the data is showing us, right, and then not a billionaire his real name is Clarence's right, Clancy Clancy can't be a billionaire or come on now, But yeah, it is just like, you know, there's a point where you just sort of crossed the rubicon of reality and you're like, sorry, folks, I'm over here now, and actually all you people are

actually haters and I'm going to legislate you the fuck off. The planet's kind of where we're at now. And guess what, all my homies are rich and we can manipulate many things with this money. But yeah, it's easier to just be like just the whole like, what was it, what's the title of it. It's like he's collecting a Nazi. Does not make him a Nazi or whatever? The fuck Clarence Thomas's billionaire friend is no Nazi. M you're carrying water for a dude who doesn't know your name. Also,

by the way, like yeah, pretty weird. You're simping for a billionaire who didn't even want you at his party. Hey, Harlan, Oh god, it's that insufferable Graham again. What is he doing? I don't know, but he has silver paint all over his mouth and he keeps reading out of a paper bag. By the way, his big article on Richard Spencer. Richard Spencer is a troll and an icon for white supremacists. He was also my high school classmate. Is the subhead of the titles The New York Times as a person.

The title is his comp that's the title of no no, oh my yeah. And it has like it has a black and white photograph of Richard Spencer. That's like kind of I don't know, it's very humanizing, it's interesting. Good for them, good for them? Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm for the people that are aspiring millionaires and billionaires. I read the Atlantic. I'm sure this is a nice salve for them. Yeah, but I can buy all the

Nazi should I want. Yeah, I'm just trying to going to tell me that the Atlantic is gonna tell everybody else that they're fucking morons if they judge me for it exactly. Oh really, Oh I'm a Nazi. Oh have you read a little piece by Graham Wood in the Atlantic that would say otherwise? And it's gonna be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Huh? Just read it. Oh, my friends know I'm not a Nazi. I'm just in

the Nazi stuff, like in a really really normal way. Yeah, but it is really like unless there's forcible legislation to reign billionaires in, there has been in the past and stopped being during our lifetime, like for basically the past like thirty years. Right. They like because to your point, Tory like that that study of billionaires of that's like the richer you are, the less empathy you have. That's not necessarily because like money makes you less empathetic. It's

that people without empathy are better at accumulating money. The amount of wealth required and like the amount of exploitation required to do that. Like, yeah, those specific people, it's probably like but two things feeding Like I'm sure the money doesn't help once you're already somebody who has been

predatory enough to accumulate that much wealth. But what we are just feeding them into the most influential positions in our civilization and like that it's just going to keep getting worse until something is done about it to bring them in and culture at a cultural level, people start just automatically discounting everything that comes out of their mouths and everything that comes out of the mouths of people who are scenting for them. Just call them sadistic plutocrats.

Let's not call them billionaires. We don't need we don't have to sign like, well how much wealth you're just you're a sadistic plutocrat. And I'm sure another thing that prevents them from like being like am I the baddie is like our culture already deifies these people in the form of the job creator, you know what I mean? And like, so for them, they're like, actually, I'm God,

so I'm actually creating jobs. I'm not exploiting labor. I'm creating jobs, and I and I put my head, I rest my head at night on my third Reich sheets and I read a sleep really wonderfully because I know I've created jobs. I'm not I'm not exploiting labor. Okay, the needlework, the thread count like it really can't be. I'm sorry. I hate to keep harping on this, but this is almost a hundred years old, and the quality is better than anything that you fire right now. I'm

just saying they don't make stuff like they used to. Okay, you say you hate to keep harping on it, but it's all you've talked about since we got here. Harbor, just saying this ship is durable, Okay, sucking the fucking ninety year old hat man. Look at it, looks like looks brand new, looks brand new. The fuer Ward Tori good, I'm just laughing at the fuer Ward Warren fer worn. These are my air fuer ones that I got sneakers.

These aren't even around then. Yeah, I had Phil Knight makeup hair custom Oh no, oh no, Well, Tor, is such a pleasure having you? Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? I am still on the sinking boat. That is Twitter at Tory Glass and at White Homework, and I am on Instagram at White Homework talking a lot about, like I said, poverty and the impacts that that has on people's nervous systems, among you know, all the other anti racist, social justicey things

that I am that I talk about just generally. And my website is prey last dot com. So yeah, hit me up. What's hang out? Is there a work immediate that you've been enjoying I have. I don't know how to pronounce the name of this person. So this movie that's coming out, what is it? Chevalier? Am I doing that? Right? I don't know about this black kid who's like a French violinist. It's based on a true story. Sorry if

I butcher that I don't speak French. And so anyway, there's all these racists who are crying and like in their fields because they're like, how are you making a story about a black kid who lives in Paris and like the seventeen hundreds? This is so offensive to me.

This must be fiction. And anyway, somebody were someone who replied to the to the trailer of the film, and it was like, remember when the anti woke red pill crowd said, why don't you just make stories about black people instead of making white characters black and like crying about. He's like, that's not what they wanted either. It's almost as if they don't care about history. One could even

think they're just racist. No way. I was like, yes, chance, they're all the like, they're just all in their feels about like a real person and a real thing that actually happened. And uh, I was like, but you don't like black elves, but you also don't like black people existing in history. Like, just just admit you don't like black people. This is not that difficult. I don't want to see them, and I don't want I certainly don't want to hear them laughing in a restaurant. I hate that.

I hate on a train. Oh my god, what are they like? What's so funny? Excuse me? Oh my gosh, they're running around the restaurant. They're running around. Yeah. My reply to the video or the trailer was, oh, this looks fascinating. Lest to Alessandro do Medici next, because I don't think most people know that, like the Duke of fucking Florence was a black man. Wow, So I was just trolling. I was like, yeah, let's see this guy next. Absolutely, Miles,

where can people find you? What's the tweet or workup media you've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find Jack and I on the latest episode of Moss Jack on mat Blues talking about the NBA Playoffs playing tournament, and also for twenty Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra. I got actually two tweets. Actually, don't one? What am I saying? Tim Platt at Timothy Platt tweeted, Count Dracula um one, I

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