Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two eighty, episode four of Dart Daily zighte Geist. This is a production of iHeartRadio. It's still production of iHeartRadio. It's also still a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Thursday, March twenty third, twenty twenty three, should be the last episode before Miles Gray returns. Can't wait to see him, can't wait to hear the report from the Daddy Beat. In the meantime, though, my name's
Jack O'Brien aka Midnight Soon. A new Daily zight Geist has the zoom dropped in your feed? Let me try on my phone a newsight Geist. The AKA is collecting my feed. New stupidity is boll on. That is courtesy of Razik, who said, I know it's a bit much, and I say, actually not enough. You know, let these
vocals shine. Give me yo that you could actually sing a little bit, you know when when it comes to Broadway baby, and especially Broadway plays that my children have recently been in, and I had to listen to a lot of I can sing. But that was very though. That was weirdly on key and also my co host, my guest co host yesterday roasted my vocals in your face, Jody Abergant. Yeah, she's just talking shit. I mean it was probably jealousy Joe, because yeah, that was really good.
You could tell yesterday a little bit that he was jealous of the vocals and also imagine, dragons is hard to sing. Oh anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined by that that voice you're hearing today's co host, a writer, a comic you know from yourself, a gun pod, yourself, a wire, good mythical morning, stand up, comedy stages everywhere. It's Matt Lee. Yeah, let's see, uh Matt Lee. Matt, I just like love shack Matt Lee baby man, Yeah, Matt lay baby. That's all worth it for the that
guy's vocals. I always forget his name, but whatever his name is, he rules and he deserves respect. Yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the author and illustrator of the book Finance for the People and the host of the podcast Weird Finance. It's Poco Daia. Let up. Thank you guys for having me on here. And I don't have a song for my name. I apologize for not coming prepared about Pocos mother and Live Poco's mother and Live. Why am I? Yeah, that's that's that's your vibe.
That's my vibe. That's it always felt like that guy like he made it okay. Like I don't know, there's like you don't need to be able to sing or have any discernible talent. He just needs to be like I'm in this band too discernable talent baby, yeah by Shart, you know, like he used to work the merch and
they were like, just put him in the chant. He has good energy, right, yeah, good energy like all the all the ladies are like singing, they're really rocking out there, playing all the instruments, like yeah, just let him be.
He's like one of them, like little brothers. Yeah, and there just really like some amazing vocalist, Like the one vocalist in B fifty two is like guested on some RM songs I really love just like got the best boys, and I wish that like whenever she would appear in like an RM song or something like it was in her rider that he had to come to me and honey, babe, totally off for the people. That's right, Pago, how are you doing? Where are you coming to us from US
rainy Los Angeles. Actually, yeah, me too, And it's like not even Usually La will be like gloomy for a month and then but this is like Florida weather Man. It was like sunny this morning and then it rained and now it's sunny again, And make up your damn mind. This is not what I signed up for. It's not what I'm paying for. Frankly, right, thank you. Paco. You are a personal finance a finance expert. A recent episode of your show, you compared how we view economics today
and how people in history viewed astrology. I really loved that. But yeah, you have a way of like breaking down kind of finance in a way. It's the first time I've heard someone talk about finance that my brain and didn't immediately want to like sprint out of my body and get out of the room. So yeah, congratulations. You know, I try really hard to just like make it not shitty,
because it's already so shitty. It's already so boring. Like I just got tired of seeing like a website with like an old white guy on a sailboat and then like a closeup of a watch. I was just like there's gotta be like a better way to talk about right, exact guy, you're gonna see you're gonna spend your want to spend money on sailboats and watches. Yeah. So I feel like I'm kind of trolling the industry and everyone on the internet is cool with it. They're like, yeah,
let's yes, we've been waiting for you. Well, let's make fun of technical analysis by you know, comparing it to astrology is like two middle fingers up in the air and I'm and I'm stucked about it. Yeah, and also shout out to astrology. Yeah, shout out to astrology. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathroom, that's right.
But also so like in terms of like fine ants, like when you like, I see all these videos online, if guys who are just like, uh make a you know, if you're not making four hundred thousand dollars a month, I'm embarrassed for you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's so those guys. To me, I'm like, those are yeah, those guys are cool. So what what uh so, how do you make four hundred thousand dollars a month? Well, I would my My my first tip is if you can get some generational
wealth and have a very rich father. That's gonna be my number one takeaway. Yeah, the second option. Yeah, that's interesting. We'll come back to that one. Um. All right, Paco, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we can tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. There is an overall scam vibe to today's stories. The guy behind the Don't Say Gay Bill recently pled guilty to COVID relief fraud and is facing thirty five years in prison, so we'll
just do a little dance on his career's grave. We'll talk about Sofia Coppola's daughter debuting on TikTok by like taking over one of her parents' accounts and being like I recently, I'm grounded because I tried to charter a private helicopter to fly me from New York to Maryland to have dinner with a camp friend. Speaking of generational wealth,
but fly me to my room. Well, we might even talk about Cameron Diaz's comeback movie, which is apparently troubled behind the scenes, and not for the reasons that I was expecting. It has to do with they like Jamie Foxx recently had to fire a bunch of executive producers off the film, and like, it turns out one of them was trying to scam him for a bunch of money. So it's like things are just like falling apart. We
mentioned this on yesterday's episode. But it's just the quality of everything is just diminishing, and everyone's just scrambling around trying to feels like the end of the Soviet Union. Yeah, a little bit, like everything's crumbling and everyone's trying to get into everyone's pocket. Yeah. We might even talk about conspiracy, theorist dating sites, all that plenty more. Maybe not any of it before we get to it, though, Poco, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from
your search history? Well, I have some boring things in there as of late. But I did watch Uncut Gems for the first time over the weekend and I loved it, and I was so emotionally invested. And then I had been reading articles or seeing things lately making fun of like all these pretentious assholes who are just you know, they're like part of the cult of A twenty four And I was like, yeah that, you know, I'm in everyman. I'm not. I'm not like that. And then I watched
this movie and I'm like, God, damn it. Every great movie I've seen recently is in A twenty four production. So I've been googling, you know, what's the next A twenty four flick? I should check out. Yeah, they really are doing it. They've they've had a pretty good run. It's all hits. I mean, it's if it's all hits, it's a lot of this. Yeah, and then it is it's all They're They're good, Like most of them are
just really beyond good movies. They make bangers. Yeah, they're coming out with bangers like on the regular, to the point where when you see A twenty four in a trailer, you're just like, this is gonna be good. Like I'll pay attention to a trailer. Yeah, right back. We've talked about this on trends, but definitely in the A twenty four fan club. Oh yeah, like Mirramax had that for a little while kind of but you know, spread too too thin and also just a hugely evil company behind
the scene whatever whatever happened. But yeah, there hasn't really been a like a label like I think Magnolia was for a while. I feel like run, I guess yeah, but yeah, A twenty four has been like the production company of note for a while, like they're the one that people like, people know like A twenty four, Like it's usually like you guys say Magnolia, and I would venture to guess that most regular people are like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's the name of
the movie. Yeah, name of a movie. But even Mirrimax, like people like, yeah, I think I know, you know, like if you mentioned what was the one back in the day that had the unicorn, Trystar Trystar, Yeah, like maybe people would remember that, you know, oh yeah from their childhood, but no one knows production company names. Yeah, but A twenty four seems to be like the one that people are like, oh, it's A twenty four, that's what's up. It's also the one that they're the only
ones trying to make movies that aren't Marvel movies. I feel, yeah, that's true large experience. So paka, what is something that you think is overrated? Oh? My gosh, like the Internet in general just being on all the goddamn time, and honestly, I don't know how you guys do this daily show, because that means you have to consume a tremendous amount of media in order to talk about a tremendous amount of media. And I don't. I don't do a daily show. I do some weekly stuff, and I still have to
consume a tremendous amount of media. And sometimes I just want to lay down and look at the clouds and yeah, just be high with my friends and like, really, why you're not making four hundred thous dollars a month? Right there? Bro, that's right. You need to get on your grind grindset. I think I called it the grind set mindset, mindtality, which I do feel like I could turn down to do a thing. Yeah, on TikTok, I get your mind reality. The secret is I have just a garbage dumpster for
a soul. Yeah there's I got three first blood vessels in my brain and I made it work. The view listeners can't see this, but my eyes are just completely red. Yes, blood vessels, just nothing but first capital Eric. No, it's fun. We have a great staff, we have great writers and researchers. So that's that's how we do it. To be honest, to be completely honest, and yeah, not fun and I'm a guest toast, so I just I just come on every once in a while to make that voice, to
make that voice. Yeah, that's it, and sometimes I do that. That's it. That's my life. Yeah, what is What's something you think is underrated? That's a great question. I'm gonna come in hot with some corny stuff and say right on brand. What is underrated? Is you know, saving a portion of every dollar you earn. That's underrated. Not everybody does that. I feel like people. I feel like people think they need to be making four thousand dollars a month before they start to save a single dollar. And
that's a flout logic. You should be saving whatever you can start where you are. Okay. So consistency and the boringness and the power of consistency I think is very underrated. And so you just have to be very kind of mindful about when you make money, like to always just be putting somebody like, how does like a brind full mindfold a grindfull mindset, grindset mindfulness. That's it. Yeah, grindset mindfulness is exactly. It's gotta be something, there's gotta be
already a thing. Grindful. I don't it sounds kind of like dirty in a good way. I'm into it. I want too. Yeah, but how yeah, Like you are there tricks for saving a portion of every dollar? Like, how do you see people put that into action? So an
ordinary person who's scared of money like me. Okay, So if you're an ordinary person who's scared of money, and you also receive a regular paycheck, the best thing you can do is just leverage the technology that we have available, and every time you get a paycheck, it's you make an automatic transfer. So you get out of your own damn way by doing that. But a lot of us people who are making stuff on the internet where we
work for ourselves. So if that's your status, then you have to take the time I would say once a week or every other week when you pay yourself, you also have to save a bit. It's more manual and it sucks, but you have to get used to the pain. Otherwise you're just going to kick the can down the road and then before you know it, you're staring down the barrel of retirement and you're like, oh shit, I'm about to buy cat food in bulk, you know what
I mean? Yeah, I can't buy this boat and watch exactly. Yeah,
you thought you wanted it. Grindfulness, you know, comfortable, Being comfortable with discomfort is a huge thing I've like, like I just have such a instinctual aversion to any sort of discomfortable, like uncomfortable thing, and like just in every part of my life, I've had to just really like whether it be paying attention to money or like having uncomfortable conversations, which for someone with social anxiety can be every conversation, like you know, just pushing through and making
yourself do the uncomfortable thing. And like, I think there's a part of my mind that is like, well, that's just burning energy and it's actually no, Actually what when you do uncomfortable things that are like long term beneficial, it can be a generative and like help you you know, and it's a momentum. It's a good stress like we
like exercise is a form of stress. Like there cortisol levels go up, you're putting like you're stressing your physical body out and people, you know, stress gets a really bad rep and I think it's obviously if it's chronic and it's really ruining your health. Sure, but there's also like nobody ever talks about how we need to continually like stress test ourselves in our lives and you know, our systems and our processes, and that's actually what builds.
I know there's a problem with the word resilience, but you know, the ability to be more adaptable. How's that? Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm gonna go stress myself out at the gym for a little bit later, just freak myself out. It is funny though, like as recently as the seventies, like that wasn't like working out like that. Have you ever seen the Arnold Schwarzenegger like bodybuilding documentary where people are just like they lift weight, it's just so foreign
to them. I guess there's the joke about that an Anchorman where they're like disjogging jogging and don't know how to pronounce it. Yeah. Yeah, Like also in the seventies, like that's also when like the four one K came out, which is crazy, you know. So today it's twenty twenty three and we're just seeing whether or not that experiment worked out. And like right before, like decades before that, like women couldn't have their own credit cards through their
own bank accounts. Yeah, it's really hardly that we just I would have had to pretend like stay in the closet and like marry some guys. So I could, you know, just live a regular ass life and like have access to funding or else be completely on the fringe, which is women establishing credit not on my watch, not on my watch, and yes it is my watch, I own, I own her watch. She's allowed to wear it, but
we tightly restrict. Yeah. And then when they opened that Apple pay card, like there were weird things built into the algorithm. Then yeah, there I remember like Apple Wallet and Apple pey, like what whatever that Apple credit card was that they were introducing. People like looked and saw that like women were getting like different rates that were like assuming weird things about their ability to handle credit.
That's so fucking weird. Man up. Yeah, oh all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
to talk some scams and we're back. And um, Paco, I was listening to an interview where you were talking about like what made you want to write your book, and one of the things you mentioned is like that you were just looking at this world where finance is described in this really like strange way, and you mentioned that like hell is tied into it, and so I was just like that, that's always interesting, like America, America's obsession with hell, like the very early American texts of
like Cotton Mather just being like we're all just on the verge of falling into hell, and like how that informs culture in America to this day. But I was curious to hear you talk about that with regards to finance in particular. Wait, before I tied into finance. I think it's really interesting that you pointed that out because you guys earlier at the top of this show, we're talking about that about how everything is going to hell
in a handbasket because you know, scams and stuff. So I think it's really fascinating that that's such a permanent fixture in our culture, this field of like fear of hell. Yeah, we're in hell. Yeah, my famous catchphrase, we're all in hell. I'm having a great time though, good right right, Yeah, people go to hell. Yeah, it's like a party where you don't know if things are going to go terribly wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
When it comes to personal finance, and I would say, particularly with debts, what I was trying to unpack and understand is why we have such strong ties to morality and why people have this, like people feel a sense
of moral obligation to pay back what they've borrowed. And I can understand that kind of from an arm's length, but like when you double click on it, you can start to see like a history of like the Catholic Church and when it broke and we had that like Protestant Reformation thing happened, and it all had to do with with like with debts, all right, But then if you zoom out even further, like ancient societies have always felt like a debt to the gods, so they would
do animal sacrifices or human sacrifices, they would you know, there was all of this. This idea of debt has been with society for I think as long as humanity has been around, and so I just really wanted to explore that. I think what makes people like my shit when it comes to finances is I'll just zoom all the way out and say like, hey, guys, we're just these fleshbags sitting on a rock that's hurling through space and time, and yeah, you should have like an emergency
fund and stuff. That's cool. We should do that and put money chare for one k, but like your actions and energy reverberates into the universe forever, so like be about that vibe, Like I can hold those two things in the same breath, but also not make it about like you're shitty because you're not following along to what God said you should be doing, so you know, and all of that just comes from being an intersectional person growing up when I grew up where I grew up,
being the person that I am, being queer and always feeling like I had to kind of negotiate or understand how people were going to perceive me and then try to make them comfortable so that I was safe. That that's a part of my upbringing and that just permeates my work and and then the health thing, like the Christianity thing. Why are we I'm just a curious individual.
And the more I learn about money, the more I try to understand anthropologically, psychologically, evolutionary, biologically, like the weirder it is, the crazier it is. The more I'm seeing that everything is super connected and it's just a fascinating thing that we've created here. Yeah, it's all made in
like our own like the we built a system. We've been talking about fractals a little bit on the show lately, and like the these small patterns that then get like blown up into massive kind of patterns that look exactly the same over the course of like an entire civilization or over the course of all of history. And yeah, it feels like we've built a economic system that mimics how the like very first, you know, people in America with power felt about themselves and with regards to God.
And now you know, people are like, my credit card debt means God hates God is mad at me. You know, it's like a three hundred years later Jesus. I feel like another parallel too, is that all finance to me sounds like priests talking, you know what I mean? Like the like I feel like the entire financial industry is kind of there's a language. It's like learning. It's like the reason the Catholic Church was doing everything in Latin, you know, exactly, because it was like, well, no one
understands this, This isn't for the peasants. As far as I can tell, CNBC, is it or what's the financial one? Is it ms? As far as I can tell, CNBC is in light completely, I completely like I don't understand it, and it makes me feel like, oh, that's that's above
my pay grade. You guys can you guys can run all the banks and stuff like, you know, like you guys, yeah, do do whatever it is you gotta do with the you know, the securities, uh stuff, and you know, so then the rest of us kind of just back out. And we also take their word, like financial people's word. It's like it's like a priest. They talk directly to the money god. You know, they they personally, they have a personal relationship with the invisible hand of the free market.
So you know, I will let them. I've been on the inside and it's just like mad boring. It's like so painfully annoyingly boring. And I have a very high tolerance for boring shit. I realized that about myself, and I do wonder are they making it boring on purpose? Are they just boring? And then sometimes they take a left and I'm like, does everything in society now have
to be entertaining? Is there a problem with that? And I kind of feel like, yeah, the answer is yes, Like I'm literally trying to entertain people, like do stupid shit about finance and then trick them and then be like, Okay, let me teach you a quick lesson for these five seconds that I'm holding your attention, and then do something weird and unexpected. Again. Yeah, it's just it's a weird. It's a weird thing that we've created, and I agree
with you it definitely. It's kind of like the law where it's terrifying, you don't understand what the hell is going on, and then you have to pay somebody to help you navigate it. Yeah, you know, in theme of a scam, in theme with this today's episode. Well, fortunately, the law experts are usually pretty kind and you know, on the up and up, absolute law yours. I think they're called, yeah lawyers. Yeah, warmhearted individuals trying to do the right thing. Never likes. All right, so let's let's
get into one of the scams of the day. I'm not going to ask you to explain what it means that the FED just hiked rates despite the bank turmoil, because I don't even Yeah, well that, yeah, we'll just let them do that, and yeah, they know what do I know? It to the adults? Finally, adults are doing stuff. But uh so you might remember the guy who introduced
Florida's Don't Say Gay Bill. His name is Joseph Harding, and he claimed that the bill was about defending the most awesome responsibility a person can have, being apparent, and therefore we can't acknowledge anything except my very strict interpretation of who should like who in in schools was basically his thing. You know, as a as a new parents, I want to say that being a parent means that you just you, you take your kid away from anything,
anything that might, you know, make you uncomfortable personally. Exactly. It's not really about the kid as much as it is about just like, don't embarrass me. You know. That's that's that's me out with my child at any point, just like you're being weird right now, and then just making sure that no one else embarrasses my child further or me. Yeah, don't say gay is what I'm saying. Yes, exactly.
So anyways, that same person pled guilty to committing one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in COVID nineteen relief fraud, faces up to thirty five years in prison. So you know, so you's so good, you gotta teach your kids to be on that grindset mindset, you know. Yeah, but so Harding took COVID relief funds intended to aid struggling small businesses by using the names of dormant business entities and claiming that they were still in operation during the pandemic,
which they weren't. The businesses were the vacshack, which is a store selling discount vacuum cleaner bags. Oh wow, yeah, I wonder why. I don't know, that's a great question. I was just talking to somebody about how strange it is that there are still like the places in this world that only sell vacuum cleaners, like they're just like coasting off the inertia of that being I guess, like a business with good margins. But it's like, I, you know, you never see anyone in there. There's enough for a
breaking mortar store, though, I can't vacuum store. Guy, it's probably a front, right, it's gotta be. It's yea almost yeah, But then a vacu like going being like, no, the vacuum store is actually not specific enough. Yeah, just go drill down to vacuum cleaner bags. Nope, actually still not specific enough. I want a corner only the market of discount vacuum cleaner bags. We're ross for vacuum cleaner bags.
Don't buy any of those fancy, brand new ones. We have some irregular bags, you know, going against the grain everybody else like Walmart, all these big box stores or places where you can get everything. And he was like, nah, I'm going to rivaccheck. We got Hoover discount vacuum bags. We have i robot ones. So the Roombot vacuum bags also crack coo cane in the back, right, yeah, I mean definitely Joe's backshack. Yeah. And then he had another one that was a supposedly a forty six acre horse
and cattle facility. Now that he was smart to keep nice and vague, so nobody really knows what that means. But it hadn't been active since twenty seventeen. And so yeah, that's how he's showing his kids what's up. Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know, I love the thing is now at this point, every time there is like a morality police who a self appointed deputy of morality, the morality police. Yeah, yeah, they always like this always happens. There's always something. There's
always it's just like it's just it's inevitable. You just wait for it. And then it's just like, you know, it's like all the people who are just like groomor groomer groomer, and then they're all arrested for having like child porn and stuff, and you're just like, it's just it's just the next legical step. You just know it's it doesn't even it's not even fun anymore, you know what I mean. It's not even like poetic anymore. Like I used to have fun when I would be like,
look at that, isn't that some poetic irony? And now I'm just like, can can we stop with the it's cliche now, it's cliche. Stop with the cliches, guys, please. It's just it's almost as if if you publicly, you know, try to ridicule others about morality, it's almost as if you're trying to cover up something each and every time, every single time. Oh my god, It's like I'm not even offended that these guys are getting in trouble for these things. I'm offended that they're just so hacked. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just like, guys, get some new material. If this was pitched in a writer's room. In succession, they'd be like, okay, but like we need something else. Yeah, it's just although the stupidity of the business is that he was trying to make happen is kind of pretty succession level funny. That's true. Yeah, you could see Kendall Roy just pitching Joe's vaccheck to merge with the business. Yeah. And then
on another parenting front, end scam front. So Sofia Coppola's sixteen year old daughter went viral after posting a TikTok in which she I'll just read the quote from the video because it's pretty it really, it just really gets into it. People are calling it the best couple of films since Godfather, too, she said, So she just opens up, make a vodka sauce pasta with me, because I'm grounded, because I tried to charter a helicopter from New York to Maryland on my dad's credit card because I wanted
to have dinner with a camp friend. That sentence, you know, it's Hemmingway esque, you know, like will just like go on one of those runs short sentences and then follow it with a bunch of and then because because because yeah, pacing it and this is just breakneck right out of the gate. That. She also goes on to say she doesn't know the difference between a garlic and an onion and had to google image search pictures of onions. She then like cuts a shallot. I believe she's sixteen. Cool, Yeah,
she is a child. Like that's what I thought, Like, I like, it's just a like, I kind of am just amazed. It's it's just a little pinhole into the world of being, of being a copla, of being somebody who has enough money that you have to be Like, we need to change the password on the credit cards again because our kids are trying to They're trying to
they keep trying to charter. Yeah. Yeah yeah. She also says her parents have banned her from having any public social media accounts because they don't want her to be a nepotism kid. Yeah that'll stop it. H Yeah, yeah, I mean, the only way to stop this, they don't want a nepotism baby. They got to murder their child. There's yeah, but I mean wait, but she was posting this on social media though, right, Yeah, I think she took over she stole it. Parents account also like their
credit card, and then like towards it. This this video, by the way, which you know I'm summarizing as if it's a feature film, is forty five seconds long. Of course. Then her babysitters boy friend shows up and she says, my parents are never home, so these are my replacement parents. And then she's heartbreaking. I know, it's like super heartbreaking.
Then she asks her babysitter's boyfriend what he thinks of the helicopter fiasco, and he says that he thinks she should call it fiasca because it's like a feminine fiasco. Ya queen, So you know they still got it, those Coppola's and their babysitters boyfriends. Why why is the babysitter's boyfriend there. I don't I don't like. I mean, I guess if at this point, if the babysitter is essentially raising this baby, then then maybe they really are her
replacement parents. But it's just feels a little weird to have the boyfriend just like, hey, what's all, Oh, I'm just here just grabbing this plate of gobbel guel. You guys, uh, you know, keep keep doing whatever you're doing. I don't like it. It's a good. It's a good gig if
you can get it. Yeah, boyfriend of Coppola's babysitter. Yeah, man, I mean, uh, it's it sucks because it's like I I, you know, I of course am not defending any rich nepotism babies or whatnot, but I do appreciate that Sophia Coppola and her husband we're like, we don't want you on social media, and she just ended up doing it anyways. By like like that to me is like that there's some normal kid trapped within that, you know, who's just
like there. She's acting out in the ways that she knows how to, which is like stealing parents credit card and trying to charter a private helicopter. Yeah, it's it's a different it's a level of privilege. But at the same time, you know, we'd all try to do it if we had a helicopter to charter. Yeah, up, like a regular person would be trying to log into their parents like lift account or something, right, yes, yeah, yeah,
exactly exactly. So putting that into a little bit of perspective, and then also, uh, you know, I kind of get the Sophia Coppola not wanting her to have a an account, like a social media account, so that you wouldn't become
an epotism baby. I think it just is like, so I don't want you to be a public figure because then then you're going to just become like one of those many like you know, all those USC kids who like pretended that they knew how to ski or whatever and then they got yeah, yeah, and then they got into like USC like and so, uh, there's there's something admirable there, I guess. I mean my grinds grindfulness here that I'm thinking, Okay, what is the money making opportunity here?
And it is an uber for or helicopters for rich people's kids, Like, oh, how does that not exists? Though it disappears after right, I mean, it'll appear on the credit card statement. But as you know, Luber was trying to do helicopters. Oh that's right, they did have helicopters. What they were trying to have the route be right over um the one ten, like the same route where that one it's like on the one ten I think where there's like a train there that takes you to
I don't know where that goes because they don't. Yeah, but there is a train in the middle of the Oh yeah that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it was gonna So I guess they everything goes around that because they don't want to contribute to like noise pollution. Yeah yeah, which because there's only like forty helicopters every hour going, yeah, every house in Los Angeles because of the lap D. Yeah, they are. They just circle sometimes. Sometimes I just like,
I'm like, you're bored. You're not fooling me. This isn't well, who are you looking for? Who could you possibly be looking for? You know what I mean, like helicopter important? Yeah, very frankly absolutely. Yeah. It's like we care so much about catching poor people that we are going to flash as helicopter's bright ass light into people's house. Is he in there? Jack fucking h Those guys the ultimate flex. So that's why we can't blame Sophia Coppola's daughter for
wanting to totally take a take a helicopter. I mean, and I don't want to get in trouble with your audience. Obviously a cab. All couples are bastards, but I do feel for I mean, she's sixteen's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not I'm not passing any judgment, no judge. What a what a world we live in. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back right after that. And we're back and quick update on Dick van Dyke still alive in case, yeah, by the Google trends that I think
there might have been. There's been multiple Dick van Dyke death hoaxes. But he was in a car accident and is fine but apparently is still driving. Yeah, I mean he is spry, you know. But yeah, police said that drugs and alcohol are not suspected. But it's like, yeah, just being ninety six is suspected, right, Like being ninety seven has to be the equivalent of at least a six, like at least Yeah, there is cognitive decline. It's a real thing. We're not trying to be agist. I'm not
being agis at all. Yeah, No, I don't think elderly people I know are like, yeah, yeah, it's it's uh God, you can't say like anything I'm gonna say just sounds like it's biology. Yeah, you kinda, I mean, but there's also In twenty thirteen, he was rescued from a burning car on the California Freeway what oh so, like I just I don't know, Like maybe maybe maybe he's super lucky, you guys, Maybe that's really let's shift it. That's what it is. Yes, of how many? How many final destination
asked death says he avoided? Like the burning cars? Like he's getting a car accidents every five Like, how is the ninety seven? This guy is? Really? He then tweeted a photo of the burning car with the caption used jag for sale, real cheap, true national treasurer best what
a hero like? I was like ready to be like, we gotta because they are going to ask him to retake his driver's test, Yeah, which, yeah, absolutely, But after that tweet, I'm like, maybe we just let him do the driving for the purposes of high jinks and do it for the Yeah. If there's one guy who we know has experience tripping over ottomans, let's say, over and over and over, you can take a fall. He will live.
So as long as he's not hurting nobody, if there's no collateral damage, let the man drive, that's all right. Cameron Diaz has been retired for four years, seems like more, but I guess she was in that Annie Re remake. That I didn't know she retired, did she was that like a publican official. Yeah, she was like, I'm gonna spend times with my spend time with my kids and so.
But then she got brought back out of retirement by Jamie Fox, who has worked with her before on the remake of Annie and one other movie that I feel I feel like I should Oh maybe any given Sunday? Was she in any given? Oh? Yeah? Yeah yeah, anyways.
The new project is appropriately titled back in Action. Yeah to Netflix movie, And so Jamie Fox convinced Cameron Diaz to return to movies, and he made the announcement via Twitter when he tweeted an audio recording of a phone conversation between himself, Cameron Diaz, and Tom Brady, who helped urge her to unretire like he did. Which that didn't go that well. So no, no, it did not. Things weren't real bad. I just feel like we never yeah,
any anytime. And this is like there's also news of the Tarantino like tense movie that's supposed to be his last, and we're all just taking him at his word that he's actually going to retire, but there's it's just never happened before that a person says they're going to retire from an entertainment thing and I've never needed to keep
doing stuff and has the self restraint to just stay retired. Yeah, but anyways, it's like LCD sound System's final tour, right, bunch of bulls the thing that came up the last time we talked about this. So now there are reports that it's just not going well. The on the set of the movie, Jamie Fox reportedly had a major meltdown over unspecified problems and fired four people an executive producer,
two directors, and his own driver. And then like that feels a little Yeah, the driver sounds like collateral damage. He was like, he's like, he's like ring executive producers and directors and he's just like, and uh, sandwich, guy, you're gone at played a driver in Collateral So that's all.
It's all coming back together. It all fits, but one of those So it all just sounds like standard, like there's arguments, disagreements happening behind the scenes, except one of those on set issues is apparently a complex scam to steal over fifty five thousand dollars from Jamie Fox. If you get a scam someone. I feel like you should go for way more, you know what I mean, what are they doing? Fifty five thousand dollars not enough to retire?
You're gonna have to keep scamming. Yeah, that is very strange. Specific it's it's such a small amount for Jamie Fox as well, Like, was Jamie mad about it or was he like, ah, everyone tries that. Yeah, he was pissed. He was pissed enough to just like fire just everybody fire the driver within his eyesight when he found out about it. So production has now been paused, police investigation underway. Does it say what the scam is? What? What did
he try to do? We just have like weird details that are like the scheme involved offering up a Rolex watch as part of the deal, and then the same person has been linked to previous attempts to extore extract huge sums of money from stars. So is this not a great hire for the feels very executive producer team of this film? Is this it feels like uncut gems.
I'm I'm not gonna watch somebody with like a lot going on that's just trying to Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it just it does feel like and I think this was the context that it came up. The fractals came up last time was like that because we had a complete con artist get elected to be president, like that has to do something to like just that is going
to start showing up everywhere. Yeah, we've now been like this is how you get to the absolute the top position that is so highly regarded that when you have that job, we can't arrest you, right, And it's not it's not just that he was a con artist, because like if you know, every politician in some sense is a con artist. It's that people realize you could be
a really obvious shitty one. Yeah, and it didn't matter like, oh anyone can do this then, like yeah, you know, it's like you just you realize that, like, oh, people are a lot easier to fool than I had previously thought. And if that was your barrier for entry into the con man game, like after Trump, you're just like, oh, I think I could just do this to to anybody because it feels like people are way way dumber than I thought. And I mean we like it's not just Trump.
There's also like super Bowl, like all all the Super Bowl commercials. Yeah, last year were her. You know, crypto scams, right, it's just all crazy, all that scams all the way
down it turns out. And then you've got like, you know, uh, Jimmy Fallon and Paris Hilton fucking showing off their cartoon monkeys and and talking about it seriously as if its show to the audience earnestly, and the audience clapping as if they're showing a picture of their new baby, as if it's anything other than Yeah, you can't think of a more obvious fake thing, like a more obvious scam. Like I remember when you know, all of the NFTs
came out. Everyone was just like, well, that's gotta a scam, right, and and people were like, no, you just don't understand it. Yeah yeah, And I was like, all right, you own the link, bro, That's what you don't get. You own that link. You own that link, and that link means something, means something in my okay, I don't know, Yeah, sure, but don't I also own like if I make my own Yahoo Geocity's website back in the day, don't I
own that link as well. They're like, no, it's not the same things, Like, Okay, I don't know, man, But Hey you guys, Yeah, make spend money on the cartoon monkey. Yeah. I think there's also like inequality is really awkward. It like it's awkward to navigate that in society. And I think, yeah, probably also the uptick in scams is a reaction to that, right, you know what I mean? Sure, like screw those guys. Let me try to take something from them they can
afford it or whatever. Yeah, I mean I think, like I do look at scams from different lens, depending on who the victim is, and if the victim is going to be Jamie Fox, I'm like a little bit, you know, I'm I'm not as outraged, you know, I'm not like, oh, how could you do this Academy Award winner? You know, it's just yeah, like, I mean, things have gotten worse with regards to like the ability for the uber wealthy to get like openly just get away with unfair business practices.
Like we we've talked about the private wealth equity industry and how like these are the golden days because Congress hasn't passed a new tax for like billionaire families in twenty thirty years, and so what when you have like something like that driving inequality Not only is it infuriating and probably motivates people to like be like, well fuck that, I'm gonna take as much money as I can, but it also is just like creating a society where like, yeah,
those are the winners who who are like winning at this game as the rules have been defined to us, and they're cheating. So yeah, of course, like everybody that the part that goes unset, unfortunately is that they don't they get away with it, and lower level people who are just trend to Yeah, and they cause other people to lose their jobs too, you know that poor driver, Yeah, just trying to live, you know, just driving around one day and all of a sudden, Jamie Fox is mad
and there's not enough gum or whatever. Yeah, I'm done, done zo. That's it has Pisani up in there instead of Fiji. Jamie Fox is just like, you know, sorry, get out, that's I'm driving from now. He'd yeah, yeah, he's got it. There's a new driver in town. Oh, Dick Van Dyke as an uber driver, I think would be horrifying, but so much fun. Let's sit it, let's pitch it. Pago, such a pleasure having you. Where can
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